Locked On Mariners - Daily Podcast On the Seattle Mariners - Would the Mariners Trade Logan Gilbert If They Landed Yoshinobu Yamamoto?

Episode Date: November 29, 2023

Colby and Ty pick up their Yoshinobu Yamamoto conversation from Tuesday's show and ask the question: would the Mariners consider trading Logan Gilbert for the offense they need if they landed Yamamoto? Afterwards, Colby and Ty look at the possibility of the Mariners trading for Rays third baseman Isaac Paredes and discuss why there are some legitimate concerns about how Paredes' bat would translate to playing half a season at T-Mobile Park. Lastly, Ty France has begun his offseason training at Driveline, but some fans think this will automatically fix the struggling France. Colby and Ty explain why France's road to improvement is only just beginning.Follow the show on Twitter: @LO_Mariners | @danegnzlz | @CPat11Support Us By Supporting Our Sponsors!FanDuelScore early this NFL season with FanDuel, America’s Number One Sportsbook! Right now, NEW customers get ONE HUNDRED AND FIFTY DOLLARS in BONUS BETS with any winning FIVE DOLLAR MONEYLINE BET! That’s A HUNDRED AND FIFTY BUCKS – if your team wins! Visit FanDuel.com/LOCKEDON to get started.FANDUEL DISCLAIMER: 21+ in select states. First online real money wager only. Bonus issued as nonwithdrawable free bets that expires in 14 days. Restrictions apply. See terms at sportsbook.fanduel.com. Gambling Problem? Call 1-800-GAMBLER or visit FanDuel.com/RG (CO, IA, MD, MI, NJ, PA, IL, VA, WV), 1-800-NEXT-STEP or text NEXTSTEP to 53342 (AZ), 1-888-789-7777 or visit ccpg.org/chat (CT), 1-800-9-WITH-IT (IN), 1-800-522-4700 (WY, KS) or visit ksgamblinghelp.com (KS), 1-877-770-STOP (LA), 1-877-8-HOPENY or text HOPENY (467369) (NY), TN REDLINE 1-800-889-9789 (TN) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Picking up where we left off yesterday, if the Mariners actually signed Yoshinobu Yamamoto, could they trade Logan Gilbert for offense instead of Bryce Miller or Brian Wu? Talk about that and more coming up here on the Lockdown Marries podcast. Colby, hit it. You are Locked on Mariners. Your daily Seattle Mariners podcast. Part of the Locked on podcast network, your team every day. Oh, hoys, sailors.

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more, please consider signing up for our Patreon. You can now get a free seven-day trial to check out the show, new episode dropping later today. The link as well as our social accounts is in the description of this episode. So on the show today, we're going to follow up our Yoshinobu Yamamoto discussion from yesterday's episode with an interesting hypothetical in the event the Mariners do sign him. We're also going to talk about Ray's third baseman, ESOC Paredes, as a fit for the Mariners. Jeff Passon mentioned him as a possibility in an article on ESPN Plus a couple of days ago. And we're also going to talk about Thai France and driveline,

because I know Colby is very, very, very excited to talk about that. Very excited to talk about driveline and how that's going to fix Thai France, of course. We're going to start here, though. We're going to pick up where we left off with our Yamamoto discussion, from yesterday and we're going to talk about something that I wanted us to talk about yesterday, but we just didn't have the time to go over. We touched upon the general idea towards the end of the show yesterday that, you know, what does Yamamoto signing Yamamoto do for you?

How does that impact the rest of your off season? How does that impact how you approach the rest of your heavy lifting this off season? And the most obvious answer, right, is that you would end up trading, you know, Bryce Miller or Brian Wu for the bat or bats that you need and address your offensive needs that way. But we didn't mention the possibility of trading Logan Gilbert. We talked about Gilbert in the context of, you know, he's probably the fourth best pitcher in a rotation that features Yamamoto. But yeah, what if you just traded Logan Gilbert to? try and maximize the return to maximize the bat or bats that you get back in a deal because

I mean there's there's no denying that Logan Gilbert is far more valuable than Bryce Miller and Brian Wu are right because we're talking about an established I've already talked about at length over the last few weeks about how valuable young controllable starting pitching is from the perspective of Wu and Miller but Gilbert's a whole other animal because he's also affordable, controllable, and he's an established top 20, top 30 pitcher in all of baseball. We don't really see anyone like Logan Gilbert with that kind of club control traded ever. So Colby, do you think there's a fit out there for Gilbert if like,

because like let's just pretend here for a second that the bears do sign Yamamoto, but they have signed Yamamoto. are you open to the possibility of trading Gilbert or is the potential of having one of the greatest rotations we've seen a long time just too good for you to pass up on? Yeah. You know, I'm certainly willing to listen on Gilbert, but really only if I sign Yamamoto. Like, if they miss Yamamoto and they signed Snell, I'm not interested in trading Logan Gilbert. Like, Yamamoto is the only guy for me that puts Gilbert legitimately on the block because

what do you trade him for? Like, there's no comp for Logan Gilbert, none that we can find. An established all-star quality pitcher who has Syung upside with four years of club control, who's still in his, you know, in his mid-20s, and he's just starting to make money right now. The guy doesn't really exist. I mean, I guess the closest is Jose Quintana a few years ago, but he wasn't as good as Gilbert when he was traded. He didn't have the upside of Gilbert either. So even that deal doesn't make a lot of sense.

And again, if you're the Mariners, you're not interested in trading Gilbert for top prospects. You're looking for major league impact right now. So go find that guy. Like maybe it's Luis Robert Jr. But okay, if it is, how does that help the White Sox? The White Sox would probably rather have Robert. So you kind of get into this range where like Gilbert is either way too valuable to trade him for Bo Bichette as a guy who's been thrown around a lot lately. Like Gilbert's way more valuable than Bo Bopachet.

that that's a non-starter. But is he, you know, I think he's more valuable than somebody like Ozzy Albies, but is he as valuable as like Ronald Acuna Jr.? No. So there's a, there's a middle ground between like the four-win players and the elite players, but those guys aren't also aren't available as often, you know, in trade all that often. And it's still yet to match up, you know, with position and skill set and ballpark and all that stuff. So there's maybe two or three players that you could trade a one for one Logan Gilbert trade for.

I just can't find out who they are. And if you're not doing a two for one, or you're not doing a one for one, you have to pretty much nail the entire return. Like, are the Cardinals willing to go Paul Goldschmidt and Brendan Donovan and, you know, Ryan Helsley? Because if they are, then we can talk. If they're not, like, I'm not giving you Logan Gilbert for Brennan Donovan straight up. No. Like, no. So it's just one of those things where it's like, you have to find the team that has excess players that you want who also are willing to pay that freight for Logan Gilbert.

There's maybe two or three teams that fit that criteria. And there's maybe two or three players in the entire game that are as valuable in the trade market as Logan Gilbert without, you know, getting up into the superstar range. So it's a really tight fit. you know, St. Louis could still be in play there, but again, are they going to do Donovan and Goldschmidt? Because I think that's what it takes. Like,

I'm not like, maybe Jordan Walker. Maybe. But that's a risk for Seattle because Walker really hasn't proven a ton at the big league level either. So, and he's a first base only. It's just tough.

There's not a, there's not an easy trade here. And, you know, whatever you're thinking, like you, like you're thinking, oh,

maybe we can get Randy a Rose Arena and Harold Ramirez for him. that it? That really what you're going to trade Logan Gilbert for? A two and a half three win left fielder and a one win DH coming off a career year. Like that's what you can get for Logan Gilbert. You'd probably rather just keep them. So plus I can hold Ramirez for a lot less. So just find me the deal.

That makes any sense. And I'm listening. But like I think Gilbert, because of his position, his age, his track record already and his remaining upside plus club control. there's probably only a handful, maybe a dozen players that make any sense for one-for-one swap of Logan Gilbert. Yeah, I just don't think that this particular market lines up well for a Gilbert trade. I just, like you, I don't see an obvious fit there because, like, again, he's probably not enough to get you Luis Robert.

Definitely not enough to get you Ronald Ocuna or anything like that. But I also don't want to trade him for the Randy of Rosa Ranez of the world. And if the raise are like, we're not going to trade you, Randy for, Bryce Miller plus, but we'll do it for Logan Gilbert. I'm probably out on Randy at that point. Like, because to me, Logan Gilbert, four years of Logan Gilbert, had a much more premium position than a corner outfield spot. Like, that's, it's a non-starter for me.

Like, that's, especially when I'm, I'm also sacrificing your club control in that regard with Randy. On top of the fact that he plays a less important position. and is also not good defensively at that position, right? I mean, you want to talk Glass Now, a Rose Arena, and something pretty good. We can have a conversation, but at that point, it doesn't make sense for the race. Right. So, yeah, so that's kind of the other aspect, right? It is like, would you trade for a player like Brandy or Rose Arena if there is a mid-rotation starter

at far less club control attached to him, like Glass Now? Right. One year of glass now, three, or, yeah, two years, it's two years of Savali, I think. Yeah, two years. Yeah, so like one year of glass now or two years of Savali attached to three years of a Rosarena. Would you do that? Probably not. Yeah, it's just there isn't a perfect fit.

I do think that there will come a time where we legitimately have a discussion about trading Logan Gilbert. I just don't think this is the off season. I think it's at the earliest next winter. I don't even foresee a scenario where it makes sense to trade him at the deadline. year. So I think at the earliest, it's next winter and he's going to retain pretty much all of his value. Like is he more valuable with four years of club control than three? In theory, yes, but what if he takes another step forward? Yeah. Yeah, because again, we're talking about an already established top 20, top 30 pitcher in all of baseball, who hasn't missed a single start since he made his debut in May of 2021. All these years have kind of blended together. And he's gotten better every single year, every step of the way. And like this year, you know, he adds the splitter and that unlocks like a new dimension for him. You know, what else is he going to be able to add to his game or refine in his game that that takes him to another?

Because I don't think we've seen the finished product of Logan Gilbert. I said this during our report card series. Like, I'm very excited about the future of Logan Gilbert. I don't want to give that up, you know, and I don't, and I don't want to, because like, look, the mirrors need to get better offensively, absolutely, unequivocally, like,

have to, no excuses about that. But you can only be so desperate to add that offense. And, like, you know, if the razor jingling the shiny keys in front of you, that is Raniaia Rosarana, but they're saying we want Logan Gilbert for that, I just, I can't justify that.

I can't justify it at all. I'm pretty sure. I can get Harold Ramirez and Manny Margot from the race for a lot less, probably without Miller or Wu also. And I would rather do that than give up Gilbert just to get Randy. All right.

Let's talk about a player that definitely the Marys will not be trading Logan Gilbert for. Esoc Paredes, but maybe they'll trade Bryce Miller or Brian Wu. Oh, God, yeah, I don't want to tempt fate here. Do not trade Logan Gilbert for. for ESOC Paredes. That's all I'm saying. Jerry, I know you watch. I know you're watching the show right now. I'm looking at you. I'm looking at you, pal. Don't trade them for

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Right, sure. Unless you agreed with me. And you're right. Right. So question on the day for you guys. We asked you guys yesterday about merch. Let's stick with the clothing theme here. Who has the best uniforms of all Seattle sports teams?

So Seahawks. Be specific. Cracking. Yeah, and if there's a specific uniform, like, not just like. Seahawbacks that they're wearing tomorrow. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Cracking a waistwaters or fire. Mariner's Sunday, Sunday creams. Yeah. So steelheads, you knees. Oh, yeah. And we'll throw the sounders in there. We'll throw the storm in there. We'll throw the huskies in there.

We'll throw them all in there. So just... You want to throw the Sonics in there. That's fine too. Yeah, throw the last Sonics uniforms in there before they, unfortunately, we're ripped away from us. Stolen.

Yeah. Yeah. So, Jeff Pats. in an article on ESPN Plus a couple days ago, wrote about 10 interesting teams. I forget exactly what the premise of it was. But he wrote essentially what the ideal offseason move would be for these teams. And for the race,

he mentioned a potential match there between Tampa and a team that just traded their third baseman as maybe a fit for ESOC Paredes. He said that the perfect move. for the Mariner's or for the Rays, rather, would be to trade Esok Paratus to the Marrhus for one of their pitchers. I would assume that's Miller or Wu. He did not name one of those guys. But I would assume that would be for Miller or Wu. Hopefully not Logan Gilbert, like I said.

So Colby, there are a lot of people on Marrins' Twitter and just on the Mariners fandom in general that I've seen that really like the idea of Esok Paratus. But I don't think it's as much of a slam dunk as a lot of people do. And I think you're in agreement with me on that. So why is that? First of all, don't ever presume that I agree with you on anything.

You do that. You do that. But in this particular case, yes, I do. Not that you would know. There we go. Just because there are some legitimate concerns about Paredes's bat at ball profile, which also leads me to believe that the Mariners might not be all that interested in ESOC. He doesn't hit the ball hard, which is something the Mariners typically value.

Now, they're kind of doing. a course correction thing where last year all they cared about was average exit Velo and that's great. You know, when you hit the ball consistently and the Mariners didn't last year. So they're kind of doing this course correct thing. And in that regard, Paredes makes a lot of sense because he's 88th percentile and whiff rate. He was 74th percentile on strikeout rate, 72nd percentile and walk rate.

He had a good year last year. Nobody is denying that. The issue is that his power is 100 percent pole power. He does not have opposite field power. right-handed bats who hit a lot of fly balls, which Parades does, tend not to, not tend not to play that well at team mobile park, particularly early, uh, in the season. So you look at the bat, you look at the spray chart where the home runs are. They're all to left field.

None of them even get to left center field. Uh, they're all to left to, okay, there's like two in left center field, but they're all the left. High fly ball guy, uh, doesn't make hard contact consistently. Mm-hmm. But he doesn't strike out relative. to the rest of the league. He doesn't swing and miss. You know, relative to just about everybody. And he drew walks last year. So, and he hit 31 home runs at the end of the day, you know,

31 is 31. But typically speaking, this profile is not one that leads to a lot of success in Seattle. You think of the right-handed hitters who have come in and hit for power, you know, with the Mariners. Nelson Cruz, a bit of a different animal, you know, borderline Hall of Famer, just, hit line drives that that got out of the ballpark in a hurry. And, you know, we saw Gino do it one year, his first year in Seattle. But his second year, there were a lot of fly balls to the warning track, particularly early in the year. So Paredes also not a guy with tremendous bat speed, which is a concern that the Mariners had with Gino Suarez. And it was a concern with enough people around the league that he went for far less than we assumed he would.

Yep. but we know that there were scouts and, you know, front offices who were legitimately concerned that Gino had fallen off a cliff. And the bat speed was gone and this is just who he was. So right. Peridus kind of, kind of falls into that same boat where he doesn't hit the ball that hard. He's an extreme fly ball hitter,

an extreme fly ball pole hitter whose bat speed is, you know, questionable at best. There are some concerns here with Peratus. He's also a guy who's really only done this, you know, once in his entire career. Now, it's his first year as like a full-time player.

It's first year he's gotten 500 plate appearances, but is he going to repeat 31 home runs, particularly if you take him out of Tropicana, which is an indoor stadium and you put him in Seattle early in the year. Is he going to repeat the 31 home runs? Is he going to repeat the 98 RBI, you know, with his exit felos, with his ex-WOBA, with all the stats that say he's kind of ballpark dependent.

I don't think so. I don't think he's that guy. So I could be wrong. He's only 24 years old, but bats typically don't get faster as you age. Unless you're JP Crawford. Yeah.

Yeah. I guess maybe Pradis should just go to drive line and everything's fixed. To use for the next segment. Sure, sure. But yeah, Peridus, like you feel really good.

He's going to walk. He's going to put the ball in play. He's not going to strike out. And there is absolutely there's power there. Like there's no denying that. He's just never hit the ball hard. He's never hit for, you know, his contact number suggests that there's really not a 30 home run profile in there.

But he did last year. Can he do it again? Sure. Could he do it again in Seattle? I have severe doubts about that. Yeah. If he's playing 81 of his games in Seattle, I'm concerned.

So, yeah, you pretty much summed up my thoughts on Paratus. perfectly there. True media is a great data platform. Not many people have access to it. We were fortunate enough to have access to the NFL version of it for a while when we were writing about the Calks over at SI.

But not a lot of people have access to it. They should make that more accessible to the general public, in my opinion. But I'm fortunate enough to know someone that does have access to the MLB version of True Media. They're one of the few platforms that actually track bat speed. And parade is finished

in the bottom 10th percentile bat speed in baseball this past year. So obviously much younger than Gino, but streets are saying that big reason they traded Gino is because they believe the

bat is cooked, right? Like bat speed went down. They don't think that he's going to get that back. It's just, it would be weird for them to trade Gino because of bat speed issues or at least partly because of bat speed issues that make a relatively big trade because again, this is going to probably take

Miller or Wu and most likely Miller in this case to get parades would just be weird to trade an asset like that for a guy that has bat speed issues and you have no reason to really feel confident and being able to produce at T-Mobile Park right the way that you probably need him to. It's it's a lot tougher to hit the ball hard when you have a slow bat and yeah I'm still operating under the assumption the Mariners care about average ex of ELO and and you know, hard hit rate and all that stuff that they cared about last year. By the way, fun note on this tie as I'm perusing this Stackass page. With Stackcast, they do a really cool thing where they will compare like your profile, your bat at ball profile to other players who had similar, you know, bat of ball profiles. And they'll just list them out like, hey, this is bad at ball profile is similar to this guys in this year.

Yeah. Paratus is bad at ball profile this year. you want to know what their closest comp is? Is it Gino? No. It's worse. Is it Teo? It's 2022 Colton Wong.

Oh. Ooh. And keep in mind, Colton Wong was 30. Greatest is 24. Ooh. So. Oh, no. Do you want to take another shot on Colton Wong?

Like, from the right side? You're becoming that guy in the YouTube comments. Oh, it's Colton Wong 2.0. I'm just saying it sticks out when like their similarity score. The number one is 22, Colton Wong. Yeah, that's, I bought big. Like, yeah, I thought Colton Wong was going to be at least a league average bat. I mean, why wouldn't I?

Yeah. And then he came to Seattle and, ooh, foo-hoo. Now, that's different. They're not the same player. I'm not trying to say they are. But I'm just pointing out that that profile, when you look at the X-WBA, X batting average, average exit Velo, sweet spot, hard hit. like if your closest comp is 2022 Colton Wong like that's got to give you some pause. Also side note on on Paredes, he's about an average defender at third.

Right. Interestingly enough, the range factor is that he is terrible to his glove side, just awful, which doesn't pair all that well because JP doesn't have amazing range either. Yeah, he's great going towards third. Yeah. So he's got a great backhand, but when he's, starts running towards JP like that do you're better off having your reas there because your reas is better range uh so uh not not a slam dunk of a fit as some people seem to

think i have legitimate concerns about his uh you know his his profile essentially and how that plays at t mobile specifically yeah he's 24 so do the mariners think he can be better because that's a legitimate thing. Like, do the Mariners think they can make Luis Urias better? Yeah? Could they? Yeah. That's definitely a possibility.

Could they do that with Paredes? Yeah. Well, Colby, the solution here is just you get them to drive line. They wave the magic wand, and he's fixed. How do I? You're listening to the Lockdown Mariners podcast. Thank you again for making us your first listen. That brings us to our final topic of the day.

Thai France began. his training over at Drive Line. He got his assessment done yesterday. There was a video that came out of him doing his assessment of them, hooking him up to the motion capture stuff and all that and him taking some swings. I thought it was really funny that the one swing they showed that had the, that they showed the screen of the tracker is a ball that died at the warning track at Timo. But yeah, so we all know what Drive Line was able to.

help JP accomplish this past year. He was able to add some batsby. They built from a really sound foundation that JP had and were really able to tap into some more power there and all that. And he really, really took to the adjustments that they offered to him, right? And that's the key,

right? Drive line just, they don't magically fix hitters, right? Hitters have to actually adapt to the adjustments that drive line suggests, right? drive line does the assessment and then they craft a plan from that point forward

essentially and so at that point it's up to the player whether or not he follows that plan or if he can execute it or if he can execute it and

it's up to him to also carry that over into spring training into the season when he is away from driveline when he is with the organization when he is under the impression of the organization, of the hitting strategists there and the hitting coach is there. So yeah, so this is, I want to make it very clear.

Very excited for Ty that, and everyone should be excited, that Ty is making a concerted effort to try and fix the issues that plagued him this past year. That's absolutely really, really, really, really cool. but there is definitely a misconception going around the fan base that drive line is this magical fantasy land where everyone suddenly becomes a 300 hitter. It doesn't work like that. It does not work like that.

So yeah. So hopefully they're able to do, you know, Ty is is able to take to their adjustments that they've suggested to him. And he's able to find very similar success to what JP has this past year. But definitely no guarantee of that. And I've seen far too many people. on social media say, well, now that ties going to

Drive Line, you can't move on from him. You definitely can't upgrade over him. Like, driveline, let's make this very clear.

Drive Line should not stop the Mariners whatsoever from looking into the possibility of upgrading over Thai France. Will they actually do that? Is that actually possible? Maybe not.

We'll see. But it shouldn't stop them from doing that. No. You know, folks at Drive Line do great work. You know, there's a reason

why so many pros and, you know, high-end college athletes use them and trust them and go to them, they don't have 100% success, right? Not everybody who goes to drive line has had a career year, right? And that's not their fault. Nobody's questioning their input and how much they've helped some guys. But at the end of the day, it's on Thai France. And if Thai France can't execute what these guys are suggesting or if Thai France doesn't like it, doesn't feel good about it, then it's not going to make a difference.

And even if Thai France can execute everything they suggest, maybe they're just wrong. Maybe their idea is wrong for France and he struggles again. So yeah, it's good that Thai is putting in the work. I don't think any of us ever doubted that he would. But obviously, it's better that he's going, you know, outside and he's trying to find,

you know, a solution to his problems. But he hasn't found it yet. He's attempting something. And until he hits, like we know he can. can for a sustained period of time. We don't know if drive line helped or not.

We're not going to know in April. We're not going to know in May. We're probably looking at, you know, Ty France being what he's been for most of his career, 270, 3, 4, 50. If he's doing that and we're midway through June, even that, like, is that drive line? Or is that just tie getting back to who he's pretty much always been? Like, I don't know. So we'll see.

We'll see how it goes. You know, obviously rooting for Ty. he's a, uh, seems like a great dude. And, uh, a lot better than the tie I have to talk to every day. So that's, that's the key right there. If this is much better at baseball than I am. If this doesn't work out for, for France, then he can replace tie and it'll still be tying Colby on locked on Mariners just, you know, a better one.

Right. But, uh, right. Yeah. The only thing that I ask is that he still says, uh, hooy sailors. Oh, yeah. Oh, he definitely seems like the guy who would. Oh, yeah. He would. He would.

Yeah. It would 100%. I feel like he would show up on day one, dress like Jack Sparrow. so you know dedicated but right right right yeah honestly great great great great great great great great great great great great great absolutely come on the show yeah absolutely come on the show um yeah i'm rooting for tie you know i i i know that uh i bashed him pretty good last year rightfully so because he was awful um but obviously i i want him to succeed because a a makes my baseball team better and b tie france is good dude uh so i yeah i want him to succeed uh but well and good type frances is a lot of fun to watch

yeah when he's yeah good tie france is very fun uh not running the bases or anything you know whatever yeah yeah that's the other thing right drive line won't be able to fix that no so maybe we'll kind of some of the double plays but base running no nope nope nope but uh no yeah i'm glad he's taken this is just step one though this isn't a journey complete he's an all star again this is here's day one of step one of a long journey and ultimately it lands on tie it's not about drive line it's about france making the the adjustments that he needs to uh you know whether they're suggested by drive line or not yeah so totally cool to be excited about tie that he's putting the work in and all that stuff not saying that you guys shouldn't be but yeah maybe chill on the whole like he's fixed and we can't move on from

him and all that stuff so yeah yeah all right that's going to do it for our show thank you so much for for joining us here on the Lockdown Marriss podcast for Colby Patnode. I'm Tadang Gonzalez. Be sure to give us a follow on Twitter at L0 underscore Mariners. You can follow me at Dan Gonzalez. It's D-A-N-Z-L-Z and Colby at C-P-E-E-N-Z-L-Z and Colby at C-Pat-E-T-1-1. You can also find all that stuff in the description of this episode. And thank you again for making us your first listen.

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