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Starting point is 00:00:00 Caleb Lomu's transition to right tackle has officially begun. Well, kind of. And the one comment from Lomu this weekend that stood out to me in a big way. This is Locked on Patriots. You are Locked on Patriots, your daily New England Patriots podcast, part of the Locked on Podcasts network, your team every day. What's happening? I am your host, Nick Cattels. On today's show, the three rookies that stood out at minicamp and have us.

Starting point is 00:00:35 intrigued. In the second segment, Mike Vrable showed zero signs of slowing down on the field during this weekend's rookie minicamp practice. But first, all eyes are on Caleb Lomu. Today's episode is brought to by Fandul. Right now, new customers can bet just $5 and get $150 in bonus bets if your first bet wins at theFandul.com to get started. One of the biggest stories of this summer is going to be Caleb Lomu and his transition to right tackle. First, can Lomu actually make that transition? Can he prove to the team that he is capable of switching from the left side to the right side? Is he capable of doing that?

Starting point is 00:01:20 And if he isn't, what's that mean for his future? What's that mean for Will Campbell's future? What's that mean for Demetrius Crownover's future? A lot of questions left. if Caleb Lomu cannot transition to the right side. The obvious trickle-down impact on your top pick from a year ago, Will Campbell. You spent the fourth overall pick on Campbell, hoping that he would be your left tackle for the next 8, 10, 12 years.

Starting point is 00:01:48 If Caleb Lomu can't move to the right side, now you've got your last two first round picks playing the same position. So we jump forward to rookie minicamp this weekend because we've been talking about Caleb Lomu since the Patriots' drafted him trying to figure out how is this all going to look how is this all going to be handled we've got the very latest for you let's first start with loamoo meeting with the media and here's what he had to say about which position he likes to play quote i view myself as a tackle in general left or right side i just happened to play left in college and that's what i got comfortable to playing those

Starting point is 00:02:27 three years at left tackle at utah my first year there i was kind of a swing tackle I feel comfortable at left, but also working at right these last couple months and feel just as good on the right side as well. So either tackle position, I'm happy to play and feel comfortable playing unquote. So within that quote, Lomu tells us, yeah, I've been working at right tackle the last couple months. So he has been preparing for the idea of, hey, man, we like you, but we might have to move you to the right side or we are going to move you to the right side. a Mark Daniels of Mass Live, wrote about Caleb Lomu over the last week or so, and the idea of him moving to the right side was mentioned in that story.

Starting point is 00:03:11 Daniels wrote, the only offensive line coaches he's ever had believe the rookie won't have an issue. Lomu's offensive line coach at Utah, Jim Harding, who is now at Michigan, said, quote, I just believe in cross-training the kids. If he went through the archives, there's reps of him taking snaps at right tackle and practice. Now he's going to have to sharpen those skills, those techniques. It'll be a little bit of a change for him, but I have no doubt he'll be able to transfer that over.

Starting point is 00:03:39 Caleb Lomu's high school offensive line coach Bill Critchfield said to Mark Daniels, quote, he played right tackle a little bit for us. Caleb was a lot quicker on the blind side, so we moved him back. But I know that Caleb's very flexible with that. I think he just wants to compete and learn. He's a very studious type of kid, unquote. Now, as far as Caleb Lomo was saying, I'm comfortable playing tackle, he also said regarding playing anywhere for the Patriots,

Starting point is 00:04:06 quote, any position that they need me at, I'm willing to play and would love to play, just to get on the field and get some playing time. You know, that's a goal. In whatever position that they need me to play to be able to get on the field and play, I'm willing to do. Clearly, clearly from Caleb Lomu himself, the offensive tackle position or positions are his comfort zone.

Starting point is 00:04:30 If you were to ask him, what would you rather do? Play left tackle or right tackle? He'd probably say left tackle. If you said, what would you rather do? Play right tackle or guard. He'd say right tackle. Tackle is his comfort zone. So if I'm the Patriots, I am not shoving him inside to guard.

Starting point is 00:04:47 I'm not saying, well, in case of an emergency, we can always just float Caleb Lomu inside. because to me that feels like it'd be too much of a full plate for the rookie. You're already trying to get him accustomed to playing on the right side. In Lomu, there was an interesting note from Taylor Kiles of CL&S about what Lomu said during his press conference. Kyle's posted, Lomu mentioned he's at his best when he feels prepared and can play polished. He's at his best when he feels prepared and can play polished. Does that sound like someone you want to try to transition to right tackle and also the interior spots on the offensive line? Does that sound like somebody who would be thrilled to be thrown into the deep end at the NFL level playing guard for the first time that we are aware of?

Starting point is 00:05:36 I just would not do that. When the young man tells us all, I am at my best when I am prepared and I can play polished. That means it's very unlikely I'm going to be prepared and being, you know, polished to the point where I feel comfortable playing on the inside at the NFL level. It's only 21 years old. I just feel like that would be overwhelming for Caleb Lomu. You want to move him to the right side, fine. Move him to the right side at right tackle. But I would not be trying to, you know, send him to the right tackle while also saying, well, we might need you at guard just in case Elijah Vera Tucker gets her to.

Starting point is 00:06:14 again, or just in case Michael Wenu tries to, you know, hold out, or just in case Ben Brown is not healthy as our top backup on the interior. It just doesn't sound like a guy who would be super comfortable with that situation. Now, as far as mini-camp practice, Caleb Blomu was at left tackle during practice. Now, I would also mention this was a lighter practice, and it was the only practice that the media was privy to. The only practice that the media was invited to. So, number one, it's a lighter practice, not going to take a ton from it. Number two, the Patriots could certainly be playing some games by putting Lomo at left tackle instead of right tackle when the media is there. Now, I don't think that's happening because if you were

Starting point is 00:07:09 going to play games, would you really put Caleb Lomu at left tackle? in front of the media when you know the media is going to run out there and say, hey, Lomu was at left tackle during practice, and then all of the controversy with Will Campbell gets brought up again. I don't think the Patriots would want to do that to themselves. Now, Evan Lazzar, Patriots.com, friend of the program, he mentioned that Lomu did work at right tackle in positional drills. So I didn't see a ton of people saying that,

Starting point is 00:07:40 but it's absolutely of note. It wasn't like Lomu was playing left tackle the entire day. During position drills, Lomu was doing some work at right tackle, and that's that cross-training that we mentioned. So during the positional drills, he's working on the right side. He's doing some of that work at right tackle. But then when it was practice time, he slid back to left tackle,

Starting point is 00:08:05 which to me, in this specific instance, makes sense because the Patriots really only had three offensive tackles that they were working with at this practice. And if you think about Caleb Lomu being comfortable at left tackle, and then you have Demetrius Crownover, who is comfortable at right tackle, I don't think you're going to during this rookie minicamp practice, flip both guys and say, okay, Lomu to the right, we're going to try crown over to the left. I think we'll see Caleb Lomu on the right side and we'll see Demetrius, crown over in both spots, and you will see Caleb Lomu at times, I would imagine, in both spots.

Starting point is 00:08:44 But Caleb Lomu will be the primary backup right tackle, I'm sure, during camp when the veterans are there. That's when you'll get a true feel as to where guys are playing. You know, you can't glean too much from these types of practices with shorts on, but as far as what Lomu looked like, Greg Bidard wrote, I thought Lomu looked okay. Definitely looks the part, but he did struggle on some reps mostly with inside moves. Again, grain of salt, far from competitive, you know, camp reps versus veterans with the pads on. So we can only take so much. You can only glean so much. And I would not go overboard with Lomu playing left tackle that mini camp saying, oh, well, that means they're going to kick Will Campbell inside. No, again, I think it was about, at least for

Starting point is 00:09:32 this practice, at least this early on, let's keep Caleb Lomu and Demetrius crown over in their usual spots so they can feel comfortable. Let's get a couple of practices under the belt. And then as we get into camp and we start shuffling guys around more, that's when we'll start putting Caleb Lomu on the right side more. And we'll try crown over on the left side so we can try to work him in as a swing tackle option. That that's what I would imagine the Patriots do. But I do think those Lomu comments, they tell us, they tell us. He's more comfortable at tackle. I would not be messing with him on the inside. I just would not do that at this juncture. Maybe down the road, sure, have a conversation about it. But early on, I wouldn't put too much

Starting point is 00:10:19 on the young man's plate. Coming up, those outside of New England hoping Mike Vrable would change his style of coaching, well, those people must have been disappointed this weekend. This is Lockdown Patriots, part of the Lockdown Podcast Network. Now, the number one sports podcast network, your team every day. If you've ever opened your bank account and thought, where'd all the money go? You're not alone. Keeping track of subscriptions, spending, and bills can get overwhelming fast. That's where Rocket Money comes in, helping you take control of your finances all in one place. Rocket Money tracks all your subscriptions in one spot. It can help cancel the ones you don't need with just a few taps.

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Starting point is 00:14:00 I was looking at a bunch of videos on social media of Vrable working at this rookie minicamp practice. And Vrable was as loud as he's ever been on the practice field. He's working with guys across different phases of the game as we have seen him do. He was totally and completely involved and hands on with these rookies from the beginning of the practice to the end of the practice. If you don't want to take my word for it, Mike Giardy at Boston Sports Journal wrote the following. Mike Vrable was on this day exactly the same guy we saw last spring and summer. During team stretch, he suited up his right handman, John Stryker, with a blocking pad making sure it fit just right. Later, he was on the scout team playing linebacker, opposite

Starting point is 00:14:48 seventh round pick quarterback Barron Morton. A short time after, the 50-year-old was hands-on with linebacker Namdi Obi-Izor, as he and several of his teammates worked on punt protection. Giardi writes, different year, drastically different circumstances. based on the last month or so, but at least with the newcomers, it was the Mike Vrable you remember. And I do not expect this to change. Maybe some do.

Starting point is 00:15:15 I do not expect Mike Vrable to change on the practice field. He is completely in his element when he's out there. He loves this type of stuff. He lives for it. This is one of the things that he enjoys the very most about being a coach is at practice working with the guys. He adores teaching the game, trying to get players to improve. That's what he's all about.

Starting point is 00:15:46 That's what he's been all about from the very beginning of his coaching career. I mean, if you want a perfect picture of who and what Mike Vrable is as a head coach in the NFL, go to the practices and watch him work with. with the guys. Again, he is in his element. And he loves working, especially with the younger players, but he loves working with all players. That's why he goes to these pro days and he's getting his hands on with Maxi Henachore and working with Maxi Henna Chor before the draft. He loves this type of stuff. He eats it up. This is him with every fiber of his being. I think if you took practice away and you took teaching the game away from Mike Vrable, he would feel lost. He wouldn't know what to do

Starting point is 00:16:31 himself. This is who he is. This is what he does. And I think, you know, some got a little too concerned with how Vrable was acting, quote, unquote, in the building immediately after the initial story from page six of the New York Post came out. I think a lot of people read what was written by Mike Giardy and I think Albert Breer also wrote about, you know, Mike Vrable was different behind closed doors when he came back to the facility after what had happened with page six. And I think some went a little too far with it. I think some, you know, started to be a little bit too concerned about how Vrable was acting in the building immediately following the initial story.

Starting point is 00:17:21 We have to remember that it just happened. It just happened. And it must have been an absolute shock to his. core that those pictures came out and people all of a sudden knew what at that time could have been going on that I think we've learned since has been going on. But it just happened. The wound was raw. The wound just opened up. And I'm not condoning or justifying anything. I'm just saying it's human nature. As time goes on, you get a little bit more comfortable with people knowing what happened. You might not ever embrace it for sure.

Starting point is 00:18:07 You might not ever love people knowing. But it's always the most difficult when it just happened to you. And that speaks for a lot in life. When something just happens, when something is raw, when something is impacting you in that moment, you're going to feel it more. But as you work things out, as you understand people know what was going on and what was happening. I think it makes it a little bit easier for Mike Vrable to operate now that that is out and it's been out. You know, you have that initial embarrassment. You have that initial shock. And you also, even if it doesn't bother you, which I'm sure it did bother Vrable that people found out what was happening in Arizona and then in these other places,

Starting point is 00:18:57 it's not like Vrable could act like it was no big deal. You know, it's kind of the catch 22. The reports that came out, oh, well, Mike Vrable was acting differently behind closed doors. You know, he's not as gregarious as he was last year. Okay, so that paints it in a certain light. And people might say, oh, is he going to be that delicate wallflower? However, if Vrable was, if we got reports that Vrable behind closed doors and

Starting point is 00:19:27 walking through the facility was the same old guy, Vrable would be criticized for that, wouldn't he? He'd be criticized for this not impacting him. He has no effect. It's he's acting as if it's no big deal. So darned if you do, darned if you don't. And I also feel like Drake May standing behind his head coach and what Drake May has said publicly, I think helps Mike Vrable. Because when the quarterback has your back, most of the other guys follow. but do I anticipate Mike Vrable being a different kind of coach because of what's happened off the field?

Starting point is 00:20:04 I don't. I don't. I think you can compartmentalize. I think you can say personal, professional. He's one guy professionally, and maybe, you know, we have found out more than we thought was there and he's going to deal with stuff personally, with his spouse and his children, all that stuff. But I do think he can compartmentalize, and I do think he's going to be the, the same guy because inevitably when he gets on that football field, when he walks into a meeting room, he's going to be the guy he's been. If he's not addressing personal stuff,

Starting point is 00:20:36 he's going to be that same coach. Maybe I'm wrong. But I think some went a little overboard with the, oh, man, he might be changing. He might be a different guy. First week, maybe. Maybe when he was going through all of it. but as time goes by and he's back in his element doing what he does,

Starting point is 00:20:58 I think he's going to settle back into who he is as a coach. Three rookies got off to a great start at minicamp. That's next. This is Lockdown Patriots, part of the Lockdown Podcast Network, your team every day. The NBA playoffs are here and every possession matters. If you're looking to get even closer to the action, Fandul has a great offer to get you start.

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Starting point is 00:22:30 later on this summer, early fall. Thanks for checking out the lockdown podcast network. Now the number one sports podcast network, your team every day. Don't forget to like, comment, and subscribe if you're watching us on YouTube. Again, I'm going to give you the disclaimer. The disclaimer is not a ton.

Starting point is 00:22:49 There's not a ton that you can take from the types of practices, the types of settings that played out over the weekend at this rookie minicamp. But you can. You can glean some, Basic kind of fundamental stuff. You can glean some of the player traits.

Starting point is 00:23:06 And let's start with Baron Morton, quarterback taken in the seventh round. And again, for a rookie minicamp practice, Baron Morton impressed. Now, the reports would tell you, Morton was really good at handling the guys going in to the huddle, breaking the huddle, getting them lined up. He was really good at running the offense. And, you know, we're talking baby steps here. When we talk about rookie minicamp practices, we're talking baby steps.

Starting point is 00:23:39 So when the quarterback is out there and the quarterback is cleanly getting you in and out of the huddle, when the quarterback is cleanly running the offense, looks comfortable at the line of scrimmage, when that quarterback is mostly accurate, those are all the things you want to see. If Baron Morton was out there and couldn't get in and out of the huddle, look completely lost at the line of scrimmage, was throwing the football all over the joint. We'd talk about it.

Starting point is 00:24:05 But that wasn't the case. He did get in and out of the huddle well. He did run the offense well. He was mostly accurate. But the biggest question about Baron Morton, and we talked about this when we discussed the seventh round picks following the draft, the biggest question, the mystery,

Starting point is 00:24:20 was Morton's arm and whether or not he had the arm strength. Because one of the biggest, if not the biggest criticisms, of him coming out and heading into the draft was the arm strength. And as we discussed, Alex Barth of 985 has been all over this thing. If you look at Baron Morton, you know, he had not one but two sprains of his AC joint in the throwing shoulder. And one of those, I believe, was like a grade three, at least one of them.

Starting point is 00:24:50 And he also played his senior season, his last season, with a fracture. And his leg or his ankle, his foot, can't remember exactly. where it was, but he had a fracture in his lower leg. It was a hairline fracture. So you wondered, would the arm strength be there now that the AC sprain, the AC sprain of that joint there, it's no longer a problem. Would he have that arm strength? And according to reports, Baron Morton did have that arm strength.

Starting point is 00:25:19 Greg Bedard of BSJ wrote that Morton looked good with a quote unquote live arm. Evan Lazare at Patriot.com wrote that Baron Morton threw with impressive zip between the numbers as he fit the ball into some tighter windows. So when we start to question Baron Morton, and okay, what's, what's his biggest weakness? He's not the biggest dude in the world, but what's the weakness that everybody is going to talk about when he gets drafted? And it was the arm strength. And the player would tell you it's because I was playing injured.

Starting point is 00:25:52 I was playing with all sorts of things going on to my shoulder. And now you fast forward, he's past those injuries, and he's at rookie minicamp zipping the football around. So maybe just maybe we should believe Baron Morton and say, well, the arm strength isn't as much of an issue. Because ever since after the season, he's been doing these workouts and these drills and all that stuff, he walks into rookie minicamp practice,

Starting point is 00:26:17 and he's got some zip on the football. So there's more life to that arm than people might have thought. And it's interesting to keep an eye on him. Maybe he'll end up pushing Tommy DeVito for the backup quarterback job. Maybe he won't. But Baron Morton gets off to a good start. Kyle Dixon also got off to a very good start. He's an intriguing UDFA.

Starting point is 00:26:40 We haven't hit the UDFAs here. But an undrafted free agent at wide receiver, and Kyle Dixon's the guy who got more than $250,000 guaranteed from the Patriots. Now, that doesn't guarantee you a roster spot. It doesn't even guarantee you a practice squad spot. But usually the guys who get the most money guaranteed in the UDFA class, that tells us who the team is highest on. And Kyle Dixon got the most guaranteed money this year as the UDFA class.

Starting point is 00:27:11 We learned about who it was going to be and what those guys did. Again, just over 250 grand of guaranteed money. Quarter of a million dollars in Kyle Dixon's pocket tells us the Patriots they have pretty high hopes that this guy could at least stick as a practice squad player. And he was impressive during this mini camp practice. Taylor Kyle, CL&S, he said that, you know, once team drills started, the guy was automatic talking about Dixon. You pay a guy that much money.

Starting point is 00:27:42 You're hoping he looks like the best player on the field. And I thought he did that today, unquote. Mark Daniels posted that. Kyle Dixon impressed four catches in one of the 11 on 11. period. Greg Bedard, he wrote, Dixon elevated for one pass, also made a sliding catch. Evan Lizarre. Dixon showed off some explosion through the back on a, through the break, rather, on a tight window dig, which was Morton's best throw of the practice in a slant versus off coverage. He also climbed the ladder to haul in a high pass on a quick hitch from Morton.

Starting point is 00:28:16 Dixon made a solid initial impression as the most noticeable receiver in the lone team period of practice. And what makes Dixon intriguing is he's 6-2, he's 220, he's got crazy athletic traits. He ran a 4-5-1-40, a 15-3-10-yard split. He has a 40-inch vertical. His broad jump was almost 11 feet, 10 feet, 11 inches. The questions, he played for Culver Stockton, which is an N-A-I-A school, so it's level of play. He's 25 years old. And he actually pitched in college for a couple of schools. So he was really a late bloomer in football. So those are the questions. But look, the traits are there athletically.

Starting point is 00:28:58 The size is there. And now you see level of play, put the pads on. How's that transition go for him? But he's definitely intriguing. And finally, Demetrius Crownover looked good on Saturday. Mainly he was at Wright Tackle, as we talked about earlier, during the practice session. But Greg Bedard mentioned, quote, crown over is one big human being out there at right tackle, but looks like a good athlete.

Starting point is 00:29:22 When he got up in front of the media, he reminded me of Jared Wilson a little bit in terms of his personality, his smarts. And Demetrius Crownover is also a compelling guy with that size, his raw athleticism. If he can grow into your swing tackle of the future, man, oh man, it'd be fantastic. I've said this from right after the draft to now, and I'll keep saying it. If you could have Caleb Lomu left tackle, oh, Caleb Lomu right tackle. there I go again. Caleb Lomo right tackle, Will Campbell left tackle, and Demetrius crown over your swing tackle for the next six, seven years. I mean, that is a terrific layout. Now, of course, if crown over does really well, he probably gets signed away, becomes a full-time tackle elsewhere. But you get the point, at least over the next three, four years. If you could have Campbell and Lomu starting bookends, crown over swing tackle, it'd be excellent. And it's not out of question because Le Adrian Waddle, if you remember La Adrian Wadle, he was actually a UDFA who became the team's swing tackle. He played for the Patriots from 2015 through 2018.

Starting point is 00:30:31 Talk about a guy who won Super Bowl. So it's not crazy. Adrian Wado was a UDFA who stuck as a swing tackle. It's not nuts to believe that crown over as a six-round pick could end up being this team's swing tackle for the next three, four, five years. The bummer of this mini-camp practice, Gabe Accus did not participate. Eli Rairden was not there, but Eli Rairden did sign his contract over the weekend. So he is officially a member of the Patriots. That wraps up this edition of Lockdown Patriots.

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