Locked On Patriots - Daily Podcast On The New England Patriots - Locked On Patriots May 10, 2018 - A UDFA TE, Levels Against the Jets and Michael Kist Fights For That Inch

Episode Date: May 10, 2018

Mark Schofield breaks down a UDFA TE to watch for the Patriots, Play 8 on the Top Ten Offensive Plays countdown and talks about Any Given Sunday with Michael Kist from Bleeding Green Nation.  Learn m...ore about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Welcome into Locked On Patriots for Thursday, May 10th, 2018. Mark Schofield back in the big chair for this Thursday installment of your favorite Patriots podcast. A couple of things on tap today. We're going to talk play seven on our countdown to the Patriots' top 10 offensive plays of the 2017 season. A little AFC East rival reaction. We're going to talk football and film. That series rolls on with a look at any given Sunday.
Starting point is 00:00:38 I'm going to be joined by Michael Kist, co-host of the Kist and Solak show and friend of the Locked on Patriots podcast. We're going to break down, among other things, that incredible speech by Al Pacino at the end of the film. We're also going to talk Shane Wyman, undrafted free agent tight end out of Northern Illinois. Could he possibly be the Patriots reserve tight end of the future?
Starting point is 00:00:58 Who knows? But first, some listener shout-outs. As always, you can hit me up on Twitter, at Mark Schofield. Love it when people reach out. Reminder to follow me on Twitter. Follow the work over at InsideThePylon.com. Check out the videos over at YouTube.com slash InsideThePylon. Also, keep an eye out over at ProFootballWeekly.com.
Starting point is 00:01:19 I've got a piece in the works. Going to be doing a series on some new offensive coordinators and what to expect when they meet up with their new quarterbacks come the works. Going to be doing a series on some new offensive coordinators and what to expect when they meet up with their new quarterbacks come the fall. But as I said, I want to start with some listeners. Shout out some fans of the show have been really enjoying the football and film segments. I want to shout out a good friend of the show, John Limorakis. He's a great friend of the show. You can follow him on Twitter at John Limorakis, which is at J-O-H-N-L-I-M-B-E-R-K-I-S. Reached out about The Best of Times. Had a little bit of a mind meld there,
Starting point is 00:01:57 but he indicated in a tweet that he did not see this movie, but he learned upon researching it that Adam Sandler borrowed the concept for his movie, Grown Ups, and the basketball game from this movie. And that, John, is a movie that I haven't seen. So I'm pretty excited that you reached out with that. Again, give John a follow on Twitter. Also, Ian McDonald, he's another big friend of the show. Always love hearing from Ian. And he has reached out already with a look ahead at Brian Son. And yes, Brian Son is going to be on this list. Believe me.
Starting point is 00:02:30 I'm just going to get to it a little bit later in the summer. I got to sort of work up the nerve to talk Brian Son, friends. It's going to get dusty. You can follow Ian on Twitter at Ian, C-M-A-C-D-O-N-A-L-D. That's Ian McDonald at Ian, C-M-A-C-D-O-N-A-L-D. That's Ian McDonald at Ian, C-M-A-C-D-O-N-A-L-D. And finally, a shout out to Erica. And I hope I get this pronunciation right. And actually, you know what?
Starting point is 00:02:51 I know I'm not going to. But Erica Prohl, she is at Erica's Homes For You. At E-R-I-C-A-S-H-O-M-E-S, the number for you. Patriots fan coming to us from Ontario who checked out Varsity Blues and enjoyed it, which I think is fantastic. Good to hear that somebody was digging some Varsity Blues. And also, if you happen to be in the Ontario area and need real estate advice,
Starting point is 00:03:19 Erica is a real estate agent in Ontario. And how cool would that be if we can get Locked On listeners, Locked On Patriots listeners, hooked up with a real estate agent if they need one. cool would that be if we can get Locked On Patriots listeners hooked up with a real estate agent if they need one. So that would be fantastic. You can check her out again on Twitter at Erica's Homes for you. Now let's talk an undrafted rookie free agent tight end. Because if there's something to talk about on May 10th. It's an undrafted rookie free agent tight end. And we're going to talk Shane Wyman, talk about him briefly now. He undrafted, as I said,
Starting point is 00:03:52 out of Northern Illinois. We did study him for the Inside the Pylon draft guide, which you can still pick up over at ITPDraftGuide.com. Dante Ferragnoli was the lead scout on him. Fantastic young football mind, Dante. He's somebody that you should definitely be following on Twitter. You can follow him over on Twitter at Dante, D-A-N-T-E-F-A-R-G-N-O-L-I. That's at Dante Farnoli. And he is also the incoming scouting assistant for the Reese's Senior Bowl. I've talked a ton about the Senior Bowl. It's an important part of the scouting draft season and the evaluation process. You get to see these guys up close and personal for an entire week. Dante has a fantastic opportunity in front of him moving on from being a coach and a recruiting assistant at Gettysburg College in
Starting point is 00:04:42 Pennsylvania. He was a scouting, excuse me, a training camp intern with the Chiefs for two straight years. I've gotten to know him a little bit. He did work for us over at ITP as part of the draft guide. Couldn't be happier for Dante getting a great job down in Mobile as part of the senior bowl. And as I said, he did the lead report on Shane Wyman. When he looked at him, had a year one projection on him as a potential four-phase special teamer. You can also be your fullback and contribute as a blocker from any alignment, effective receiver off of play action, but will struggle to beat man coverage. But that's what you get in as a potential rookie undrafted free agent. Somebody that can contribute at least in all four phases
Starting point is 00:05:19 of special teams. As a year three projection, versatile tight end, H-back and fullback, who brings competitive and physical toughness as a blocker and on special teams. As a year three projection, versatile tight end, H-back and fullback, who brings competitive and physical toughness as a blocker and on special teams. Does not possess the dynamic receiving ability to be a starter, but can be effective working zones, off of play action, and in the red zone. And if you think about sort of the Patriots tight end options right now, obviously Robert Gronkowski, the nightmare is over. He is coming back. Although what was a little nightmarish, I don't know if you saw this on Twitter, but Gronkowski firing a minigun. And I mean, I'm not talking about a small gun. I'm talking one of those Gatlin gun type things, which was terrifying to see. I mean, that's some firepower, but
Starting point is 00:06:02 go live your life, Gronk, man. I mean, Gronk in the offseason is fun Gronk, I guess. Anyway, quick digression there, but Gronkowski is back in the fold. You do have Dwayne Allen. You do have Troy Nichols, who you've added. Jacob Hollister will tie Ryan Izzo as well. So it's a deep tight end room before you even get to Shane Wyman. But then you look at sort of the fullback spot.
Starting point is 00:06:24 You've got James Devlin, and that's it. Now, I'm not so sure that the Patriots are going to keep two tight ends, but Wyman's sort of positional flexibility allows you to use him as a fullback and he can contribute as a fullback. And as Dante said, somebody that can contribute as a blocker from any alignment. And if you look at the tight end roster as constructed, he's going to be competing for a spot with guys like Troy Nicholas, Ryan Izzo, and Will Tai. Sort of as that blocking
Starting point is 00:06:49 tight end. I think you look at Gronkowski, he's sort of your tight end one, that move versatile guy. Jacob Hollister is probably next in line there. Dwayne Allen does a little bit of both worlds, but he's more of a blocking type. And then you've got room for your tight end three. And I think Wyman can get himself into
Starting point is 00:07:08 the mix for that spot. Looking at strengths on Shane Wyman from Dante's Scouting Report, adequate height with marginal arm length, sport on a thick body frame with some excess weight in his midsection. Well, it's something we all have, I guess, or at least I do. I'm working on it as we speak. Adequate athletic ability with all have, I guess, or at least I do. I'm working on it as we speak. Adequate athletic ability with solid explosiveness and balance. Adequate foot speed and change of direction with marginal leaping ability. Aligned as both a Y and an H back with heavy block and responsibilities. Excellent competitive and physical toughness brings an attitude in the run game to make up for his shortcomings and should excel on special teams. Aggressive and punishing on the first level, fires off the ball with good explosiveness,
Starting point is 00:07:48 does not accept standstills no matter the size of the defensive lineman. What's that phrase? It's not the size of the dog in the fight, but the size of the fight in the dog? You're getting that with Shane Wyman. Finishes his blocks no matter where the play ends up and looks to put defenders into the ground. As far as weaknesses,
Starting point is 00:08:06 lack of height and arm length may hinder his ability in line and in man blocking schemes. Winning with a sheer aggression as a blocker will not come easy in the NFL. He will need to add core strength. Running a vertical route from a two-point stance, he will use false steps backwards. He will start backwards away from the line of scrimmage, which is something you have to fix when you get to the National Football League. Lacks the lawn speed to separate vertically from defenders. He will start backwards away from the line of scrimmage, which is something you have to fix when you get to the National Football League. Lacks the lawn speed to separate vertically from defenders. He will get everything he can in front of him after the catch, but does not have any elusive qualities.
Starting point is 00:08:34 Overall, according to Dante, a versatile tight end, H-back and fullback, who brings competitive and physical toughness as a blocker and on special teams. Does not possess the dynamic receiving ability to be a starter, but can be effective working zones, off of play action, and in the red zone. A player you can win with.
Starting point is 00:08:54 As an undrafted free agent option at the tight end position, I don't know if you could ask for anything more. Now, can Wynman sort of win a job, win a roster spot? That remains to be seen. But as I said the other day, the Patriots have some interesting UDFA options. We talked about the cornerback, Jackson, from Maryland, who's had some off-the-field issues. Shane Weinman as well might find a way onto the Patriots' roster come summertime.
Starting point is 00:09:17 Up next, we're going to talk play seven on our countdown of the Patriots' top ten offensive plays of the year. And a little bit later, it's time for those inches right in front of your face. That's ahead with me, Mark Schofield, and Locked on Patriots. Mark Schofield back with you now, and we're going to dive back into our series, counting down the top 10 offensive plays of the Patriots' 2017 season. In case you've missed plays 10 through 8. Play 10 was a touchdown to
Starting point is 00:09:47 James White in that Sunday night game against the Atlanta Falcons. Play 9 touchdown pass from Tom Brady to Chris Hogan on that Thursday night game against the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. And the most recent play, play number 8, we had to dive into Super Bowl 52 for a minute and we talked about the touchdown
Starting point is 00:10:03 pass from Brady to Robert Gronkowski that gave the Patriots that short-lived lead in the fourth quarter of Super Bowl 52. What might have been. Now it's time for play seven and we're going to go back a little bit earlier in the season. We're going to talk about a rivalry game between the New England Patriots and the New York Jets. This was back in week six. Patriots coming off that short little bye week after that Thursday night victory over Tampa Bay. Their first AFC East tilt of the season against their rival, the New York Jets, at MetLife Stadium. Again, week six. Patriots 3-2 coming into this game.
Starting point is 00:10:39 But the Jets at this time were also on top of the stand-ins in the AFC East. They had lost their first two games, but with three straight victories, wins over Miami, Jacksonville, and Cleveland, both the Patriots and the Jets entered this game with identical 3-2 records. It was not what people were expecting to see when these teams had their first meeting of the season, but it was what we got to see on week six and this game was tied early in the third quarter the Patriots faced a third and 11 just outside the Jets 30 yard line about the 33 yard line they used 21 offensive personnel two running backs one tight end two wide receivers in the shotgun, and he looks again for Robert Gronkowski.
Starting point is 00:11:28 For the Jets, it's another third and long for New England. Lewis sets up as a receiver and now will flank Brady. Play clock down to two. Brady steps up again. Brady is complete. Rob Gronkowski, they're not going to stop him. Touchdown Patriots. A flag down at the 23. I think this one's going to stand, appears to be holding against the Jets. Brady's in the meeting. Touchdown.
Starting point is 00:12:11 The play did stand, as indicated there by Dan Fouts, joined by Ian Eagle on the call. And the play came on something called the levels concept. It was a passing concept that I'd actually broken down the week before that game. Multi-level, as the name might indicate, passing concept. We have receivers running in cuts from the outside towards the middle of the field at different depths, different levels. On this play, we get to see Brandon Cooks. He's the receiver to the right side of the field.
Starting point is 00:12:39 He runs a deep out route joined by Deion Lewis out of the backfield running a quick little out route. So on the right-hand side of the field for Brady, he has Lewis on a deep out, excuse me, Cooks on a deep out route and Deion Lewis on that shallow route. Now the left side is where all the real magic happens because Gronkowski is aligned in a wing to the left with Chris Hogan just outside of him. Hogan runs a deep out route and Gronkowski runs sort of that deep dig route over the middle. So the levels to this play are Deion Lewis in the flat from the right, Brandon Cooks on that deep out route to the right, and then Gronkowski coming from left to right over the middle on that intermediate dig route. Now because of the alignment between Hogan and Gronkowski. That creates traffic for the defense. The tight split helps Gronkowski on the play. He gets a free release off the line of scrimmage
Starting point is 00:13:31 and Hogan creates traffic working against his defender, which makes it tougher for rookie safety Jamal Adams to cover Gronkowski. Brady then sort of hits Gronkowski right in stride and the play goes for a touchdown that the Patriots needed at that point in time. Again, this was a 14-14 game. When this play happened, the Patriots would go on to win this game and sort of get themselves really back on track for the 2017 season after a start that people really weren't too pleased with. Now they come back.
Starting point is 00:14:07 They get that Thursday night win against Tampa Bay, which we just talked about previously on one of these shows, counting down these plays. And then they get now the victory against their division rivals, the New York Jets, on the road, which is always nice to get our divisional win on the road. And this really set up. You had the Tampa Bay win, the Jets win, the Atlanta win.
Starting point is 00:14:31 They go on and win one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight straight games. To go from two and two to 10 and two, that's a nice little run for New England in the middle of the season. If it wasn't for that hiccup they had that Monday night at Miami, we might've been talking about a 14 and two season, which still would have ended in disappointment and heartbreak and bitterness, but it would have been a 14-2 season. So again, that's play seven. Brady Gronkowski on the levels concept back in week six against the New York Jets. Up next, it's time to talk about those inches in front of your face. I'm going to be joined by Michael Kist.
Starting point is 00:15:02 We're going to be breaking down any given Sunday. That's ahead with me, Mark Schofield, and Locked on Patriots. I don't know what to say, really. Three minutes to the biggest battle of our professional lives. All comes down to today. Either we heal as a team, or we're going to crumble. Inch by inch, play by play,
Starting point is 00:15:37 till we're finished. We're in hell right now, gentlemen. Believe me. And we can stay here, get the kicked out of us or we can fight our way back into the light we can climb out of hell one inch at a time that's right now i can't do it for you i'm too old i look around i see these young faces and i think i mean i made every wrong choice a middle-aged man can make i uh i pissed away all my money, believe it or not.
Starting point is 00:16:27 I chased off anyone who's ever loved me. And lately, I can't even stand the face I see in America. You know, when you get old in life, things get taken from you. I mean, that's part of life. But you only learn that when you start losing stuff. You find out life's just a game of inches. So is football. Because in either game, life or football, the margin for error is so small i mean
Starting point is 00:17:08 one half a step too late or too early and you don't quite make it one half second too slow too fast you don't quite catch it the inches we need are everywhere around us they're in every break of the game, every minute, every second. On this team, we fight for that itch. On this team, we tear ourselves and everyone else around us to pieces for that itch. We claw with our fingernails for that itch. We claw with our fingernails for that itch. Because we know
Starting point is 00:17:47 when we add up all those itches, that's gonna make the difference between winning and losing. Between living and dying. I'll tell you this, in any fight, it's the guy who's willing to die who's going to win that itch.
Starting point is 00:18:08 And I know if I'm going to have any life anymore, it's because I'm still willing to fight and die for that itch. Because that's what living is. The six inches in front of your face. Now, I can't make you do it You gotta look at the guy next to you Look into his eyes Now I think you're gonna see a guy Who will go that inch with you
Starting point is 00:18:35 You're gonna see a guy Who will sacrifice himself for this team Because he knows when it comes down to it You're gonna do the same for him that's the team gentlemen and either we heal now as a team or we will die as individuals that's football, guys. That's all it is. Now, what are you going to do? That, of course, is Al Pacino as Tony DiMato,
Starting point is 00:19:36 the coach of the Sharks from any given Sunday. And, look, I could just sit here and talk and wax poetically about any given Sunday for the next 10, 15 minutes. But I thought for a movie of this magnitude, for a scene of this magnitude, it was important to have a guest. And so I brought on a good friend of the show. He is one half of the Kist and Solak show over at Bleeding Green Nation. He has also contributed to Bleeding Green Nation as well as Locked on Eagles. Oh, wait, no, he doesn't do that anymore. I was just thrown off by the shirt he's wearing there.
Starting point is 00:20:06 No, he's a good friend of the show and a contributor to Inside the Pylon. That is Michael Kist at MichaelKistNFL. What is going on, brother? Mark, it has been too long since we spoke. I think we, how many times have we spoken since the Super Bowl? I think it was only once
Starting point is 00:20:20 and that wasn't even by design. That was on another show where you did know you were going to be on with me. I feel like you've been avoiding me since then i perhaps i've been ducking you a little bit perhaps i mean because let's let's be frank here kids when your team suffers a brutal gut-wrenching heartbreak and defeat that you still aren't over yet sometimes you don't like to be reminded of it but that that fate did not befall Tony D'Amato and his Sharks in any given Sunday. So, Mike, before you came on, obviously, I played the entire locker room speech.
Starting point is 00:20:51 And so I think the only appropriate way to begin this is to ask you this question. Do you fight for that inch? Yeah, I mean, I fight for that inch every day. And one of the ways that I fight for that inch is, you know, I'm a father of a eight-month-old teeny tiny baby Augustus and the inch is a difference between getting the water in the formula inside the bottle and the difference between spilling that formula outside of the bottle and then getting some water on it to where it hardens like the plaster of Paris and you've just got these just blobs of hard substance all over your
Starting point is 00:21:26 counter spaces throughout the entire house it's absolutely disgusting so I have to fight for that inch and if I'm off by an inch when I'm wiping them or I don't have them guarded correctly I get crapped on all over so I it's a metaphor for me as a father is getting that inch every single day especially when it comes to being crapped on, for sure. That's a fantastic, fantastic answer. And I think it does set up the fact that there are life lessons in this movie, surprisingly enough.
Starting point is 00:21:53 Oh, yeah. We've talked about on this show a couple of football movies. We've done Varsity Blues. We've done the Best of Times. We've done the program. The Worst of Times? The Best of Times, my we have you know we're not doing that right now but i i think what's interesting about any given sunday is that speech
Starting point is 00:22:11 you know it just lingers with people i mean i queued it up a couple of times today and i still get goosebumps listening to it i know you do too yeah absolutely and definitely when he's he's he's self-aware enough throughout the speech to talk about how he's failed and and how the team is fractured. But he's saying, if you can just give me if you could just come together right now just for this moment, just to just to look at the guy next to you and get it done. Despite what's happened in the past, despite LL Cool J punching Jamie Foxx twice when they shot that one scene. Despite all of those things, those difficulties that every team probably goes through in the locker room and in life, to be able to look each other in the eye and know that the other one has each other's back. Yeah, definitely. I mean, that's a message that I think would resonate with anybody that has played team sports in that manner.
Starting point is 00:23:02 And what's incredible about that scene is you know the buy-in from jamie foxx you see it like unfold throughout the course of that speech and the way stone cuts it where there's these like weird cutaways to like you know pacino just being frozen and just like putting his hands through his hair or then he's got like the rolled up play sheet that he like points in jamie fox's direction those like weird cutaways but it slowly builds to this moment where you know he gets the buy-in from jamie fox or willie beeman and you know he ends it beautifully which is just now what are you gonna do he just throws open that question and the locker room goes berserk and it's just
Starting point is 00:23:40 a great scene do you think that cap bought in Because there's a quick shot of Cap at the end of that. And it doesn't look like, it looks like Cap is still salty, man. Like he's in that position where he's that veteran quarterback that's been hurt all season. He's got this young up and comer. And at the end, I don't know if he bought in. I, you know, that's a good question. And, you know, I was thinking that same thing when I was watching this again today. And I think in a sense, you're right that he didn't buy in,
Starting point is 00:24:05 but I think he bought into the fact that his end was here. That this was going to be it for him. And that no matter what happened in this game, he was over. And he could see it in D'Amato in a sense that D'Amato was coming to grips with sort of his own sort of mortality as a coach and realizing that his sort of hard and fast rules that he a coach and realizing that you know his sort of hard and fast rules that he wouldn't bend for anybody have begun to bend in that speech and i think that's sort of the recognition that's going through captain at that moment yeah this
Starting point is 00:24:34 is going to be an emotional moment for him to be going through that hearing the motto uh say those things about his own life and then uh understanding that his career is coming to an end at that same time so more maybe more of a reflective moment. It's not for him to get all jacked up. Right. Yeah, yeah. So I can see where you're seeing that right there. It would be very interesting to see if they went with a – because you saw the buy-in from Steem and Willie Beeman after a lot of his career was not trusting anyone whatsoever. And they had that scene where he's talking about
Starting point is 00:25:05 your mom was ringing the dinner bell and all that stuff they had on the plane. And Fox has just pretty much tuned him out for the most part. I do find it interesting. I was reading this. Jamie Foxx was initially the lead for this role. It was actually Puff Daddy. And they had an actual combine
Starting point is 00:25:24 where they brought in all these people yeah michael clark duncan and lawrence taylor were both like fighting for the lawrence taylor role and they were like well it's actually the lawrence taylor role so we might as well give it to him but the quarterbacks were puff daddy and jamie fox and apparently puff daddy threw like a girl so they actually gave it to jamie They gave it to Jamie Foxx. But but yeah, I mean, just the the evolution, the arc from Jamie Foxx going to a guy reading a paper on the sideline and not really caring. He was a cornerback in college, which supposed, you know, a lot of things about black quarterbacks in the NFL at the time. You've got to remember this was made in
Starting point is 00:26:00 1999 before. While those conversations were still pretty hot and heavy, people forget that. And then, you know, having the arc to where he absolutely puts all of his faith into D'Amato and ends up joining his team after the fact, after they win the big game. It was pretty cool, man. I think it's still present today as far as a lot of the lessons that they talk about in that movie. Yeah. about in that movie yeah the one one of the things i wanted to ask you about was kind of how you know a lot of the football movies that we've talked about on this show so far the program you know varsity blues to an extent as well they deal with sort of like the dark underbelly of whether it's high school football whether it's college football now in this one you're getting sort of the dark
Starting point is 00:26:37 side of pro football you're getting the injury stuff with lawrence taylor you know some of the steroid stuff which gets sort of you know discussed on the periphery as well. I mean, I think the movie does a pretty good job of sort of introducing some of that stuff to it, but not having to be like overbearing in your face. Yeah. And James Woods playing Dr. Harvey Mandrake, the guy with no scruples and, and flubbing medical reports so that Shark LeVay can come in and get his bonus and make him sign a waiver. So, you know, if he dies on the field, they won't be liable or whatever. I mean, obviously, that's over the top. There are a lot of the points in the movie where Lawrence Taylor is like, hey, man, what about one of those shots?
Starting point is 00:27:15 Or, you know, what about one of those painkillers? Like that type of situation. You got to think that that kind of goes on. I know a lot of NFL players actually really like this movie, too. So there there is some there's some truth there, even if it's over the top as far as over the top that he went with it. Oliver Stone did anyway. There is some truth to that underlying part of it. And with Caproni, I mean, you can't tell me that that Tony Romo hasn't kind of been in that same situation when
Starting point is 00:27:41 he was trying to battle back from his collarbone, his body's breaking down on him. He's got, and he's seeing Dak Prescott, you know, become this, become this quarterback that's taken his job and he's trying to fight back from it. I mean, that's a painful thing, bro.
Starting point is 00:27:52 Bodies break down, you get older and you know, it's, it's a, it's a mental, it's a, it's an emotional ride. It's a physical rollercoaster as well.
Starting point is 00:28:00 So I like some of that. And then you also get just the bonkers, the, the drugs, the chainsaw and the car in half, which Lawrence Taylor did, which I think in real life he probably would have done. Probably would have, yep. Yeah. So even the over-the-top stuff is like, yeah, I could definitely see Lawrence Taylor doing literally all of these things. Yeah, basically.
Starting point is 00:28:20 What about the football scenes themselves? Because sometimes in football movies, the football footage, the action on the field, the gameplay isn't that good. But I thought it was pretty well done or at least believable in this movie. It wasn't too hokey or anything like that. Yeah, one of the things that they were told is you can't put cameras on the field. And they were basically like, F you. We're going to put them wherever the hell we want them. And if someone hits the cameraman, well, that's better for the scene.
Starting point is 00:28:47 So, yeah, I do think some of the shots were too quick for me as far as the way it was shot. But overall, just the physicality that came through. Like you see it from the first hit with Caperooney where he gets hit by three guys and that's the injury that puts him out. Apparently with the stuntman, like they almost tore his ACL like a couple of times trying to try to get that like that shot that visceral shot uh so i think as far as the physicality i thought it came through well they were putting cameras on um they put a camera with a helmet and they ran around with that so you have the view of the running back then they had a camera on the shoulder of somebody so you kind of got like that weird like field view of what they kind of see at the ground level i thought they did some really cool things with that so
Starting point is 00:29:27 the way it was shot was cool some of it was too tight at times you like to pull back just a little bit uh just as a football nerd like myself but i think for the general audience i think it came across pretty well can we talk about those dallas knights uniforms because look i you know when i first saw this you know as somewhat of a football purist, I guess, in a sense, I saw those things and like, oh, come on. Like I was with you until that, like these uniforms, man. And they had the field that had that like, sort of like Knights of the Templar logo,
Starting point is 00:29:55 like at the 50 yard line. I thought that was like the one thing that I was just kind of like, I couldn't get on board with. The fact that they wore, you know, the last game that they played the biggest game uh yeah that that kind of bothered me they look like the crusaders out there their uniforms look like what the bottom of my toilet looks out it looks like uh during the morning after a night on the town like it was just this mash of just yellowish and then we saw some blood in there we
Starting point is 00:30:22 don't know where that's coming from we got to figure this out but they obviously they couldn't get the nfl licenses because of the content in the movie and the nfl advised all the teams not to lend a hand with anything after nfl films that initially worked with them uh but i feel like whoever was doing the design for that and approving that as well just did a terrible job because those uniforms were atrocious, to say the least. What you just heard was Michael Kiss pitch his speech, his elevator pitch, to be the next director of the Senior Bowl. He was describing what his hotel room looks like after a night at Veatch. They were that sort of colorful little description. Are you going to throw this back in my face?
Starting point is 00:31:01 No. You're going to try to sabotage my run to be the executive director of the Red Bull and Vodka Senior Bowl? All I'm really saying, Michael, is this. I have basically decided that I would sort of step aside and, you know, I will be the guy to step aside. I will be the bigger man. If you want that job, the job will be yours. I'm just making sure that people know what they're getting. Oh, no.
Starting point is 00:31:22 It's going to be pure debauchery. There's going to be a tiger hunting a deer during the middle of the parade down Dolphin Street. We're going to have that going on. We're going to have a fan event of 50 rats. You get into a cage with 50 rats, and you've got to beat those rats off. I mean, there's waivers involved.
Starting point is 00:31:38 It's a Charleve situation. You know what you're getting into when you step in that booth with those rats. So either way, as a credentialed media member, you get your first drink when you pick up your credentials, and then you have several drinks under your seat during the weigh-ins because the weigh-ins are super weird. And then instead of conducting interviews with players in that weird spot
Starting point is 00:31:57 where they kind of taper them off and have them in the middle of the room while everyone watches them eat like a bunch of weirdos, we're going to take them out to Viet's. We're going to show them a good time. We're going to get them nice and have them in the middle of the room while everyone watches them eat like a bunch of weirdos. We're going to take them out to beats. We're going to show them a good time. We're going to get them nice and loose. We're going to get the best D'Argan Senior Bowl quotes you're ever going to get anywhere. It's going to show the true metal of a man when he's drunk and seeing what he's going to say.
Starting point is 00:32:17 Folks, if that's what you want from your Senior Bowl experience, you have to go support the candidacy of Michael Kist at Michael Kist NFL for the next executive director of the Senior Bowl. Now, Michael, before I let you go, we are talking films here. We talk some any given Sunday. I've just started on this list of 20 films I'm working my way through, but what are some other football films that you've enjoyed? Oh, man. I actually grew up an Notre Dame fan, so Rudy is up there for me.
Starting point is 00:32:45 Obviously, Invincible has a special place in my heart. Friday Night Lights is excellent. I think that's probably one of my favorites. And I'm not a Tom Cruise fan. Jerry Maguire is kind of weird. Remember the Titans. Go remember the Titans as well. Those are some of my favorites.
Starting point is 00:33:03 But Friday Night Lights is up there for me. Yeah. I mean I'm going to do Jerry Maguire just because it's on the Titans. I'll go Remember the Titans as well. Those are some of my favorites. Friday Night Lights is up there for me. Yeah, I mean, I'm going to do Jerry Maguire just because it's on the list. North Dallas 40, that's one that I think, yeah. I mean, that was basically sort of any given Sunday before any given Sunday. Right, yeah. So I think that's a good one.
Starting point is 00:33:18 Obviously, yeah, I'm going to put Invincible on here. The Replacements, that's going to be from Monday's show. I love that movie. The quicksand part with Keanu Reeves, the quarterback, that speech reminds me so much of what I think is going to be the beginning of the career of Josh Allen, just the total collapse. The beginning, the middle, and the end of the career of Josh Allen, is that what you're saying?
Starting point is 00:33:41 What do we call it in a career? Because you can call the CFL having a career. I mean, what is Johnny Manziel doing in the Spring League? Is that a career? I don't know. I'm just saying. I mean, he's getting paid to do something, I think, right? I think he had a relapse, too.
Starting point is 00:33:54 I thought it was a reaction to medication. It was a quote-unquote mishap with quote-unquote prescription medicine. So take that for what you built into listeners. I mean, they say what they have to say to get people through it. All right, my friend, let people know where they can find you, what you're working on right now, and where they can support your candidacy for executive director of the Reese's Senior Bowl. At MichaelKistNFL is where you can find me on Twitter right now.
Starting point is 00:34:20 I'm working on a lot of off-season draft stuff, UDFA stuff for bleedinggreennation.com Also, insidethepylon.com with my good friend Mark. And subscribe to BGN Radio. We do a lot of, we did a lot of draft stuff, me and Benjamin Solak on the Kiston Solak show. We do a lot of general NFL stuff as well, so it's not just
Starting point is 00:34:40 all Eagles stuff. It's probably the least fan-based podcast that we have on the station that is by design, so there's some other type of shows on there. But we have a good time talking about general football. I think we're knowledgeable dudes. I'm Miss Scouting Academy 2017,
Starting point is 00:34:56 so I know what I'm talking about. I'm getting that parade float down Dolphin Street, too, for being Miss Scouting Academy, for winning that Prove It competition, Mark. I'm making it happen now. That a boy, my friend. That a boy, my friend. That a boy, my friend. So, like I said, that would do it for this Thursday show. That would do it for this week because, look, friends, it's May.
Starting point is 00:35:13 I mean, what do you want? Do you want me to spend Friday breaking down some UDFA who's probably not going to rank the roster? I mean, I can do that. Friday's for the boys. Friday's in May, they're for the boys. And in May they're for the boys and what Michael says that he means he actually does go out and have a good time. I tend to the
Starting point is 00:35:30 garden and mow the lawn because I'm a man. I'm 41. My days of glory are behind me. I get three nights a year and I make the most of them down in Mobile, Amabelle, Amabelle, but again that will do it for today's show. Huge thank you to Michael for coming on.
Starting point is 00:35:45 I'll be back Monday. Do some stuff at the outset. We'll continue counting down football plays, Patriots top 10 offensive plays of the year. Michael was not on for the show where we broke down the one and only play I'm going to talk about from Super Bowl 52 because, well. You wouldn't be able to handle it because, yeah, I'd be too happy. I mean, look happy I mean look
Starting point is 00:36:05 I only made it play 8 the Brady DeGronk touchdown near the end because that was when we had our last sliver of hope and then you guys snatched good stuff away from bad stuff and hey you know life goes on I'm going to go drink I want you to know that it's not your fault it's not my fault
Starting point is 00:36:19 we're not doing the top 10 Matt Damon movies I mean I can do that let's face it it's again what are we going to do what are we going to talk about in july until training camp i've i've started a i started a war of like conquerors on my timeline doing polls yelling at people about alexander the great and gangas con so that's kind of my brand right now i mean i i think since this is locked on patriots i could probably do top 10 boston movies you did a total show i did a Toto show.
Starting point is 00:36:47 I don't know why people listen to this thing anymore. Alright, friends. That will do it. I'll be back Monday. Until then, keep it locked right here to me, Mark Schofield and Locked on Patriots.

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