Locked On Patriots - Daily Podcast On The New England Patriots - New England Patriots: Bye-Bye Bye Week, Cole Strange Returns, Caedan Wallace, KJ Osborn and More

Starting point is 00:00:00 It's time to say bye to the bye week in Foxborough, but strange days are ahead for the New England Patriots. Stick around, you're about to be locked in to the Locked On Patriots podcast. You are Locked On Patriots, your daily New England Patriots podcast. Part of the Locked On Podcast Network. Your team every day. Hello to all of you, Foxborough faithful. Thank you once again for making Locked On Patriots a daily part of your New England Patriots coverage. I'm your host, Mike DeBate.

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Starting point is 00:01:25 they're heading into this weekend's matchup against the Arizona Cardinals and they will be making that return to the practice field on Wednesday with the assistance of an offensive lineman whose services are desperately needed Patriots offensive lineman Cole Strange is being activated being that Cole will likely be in the lineup for this weekend's matchup against the Arizona Cardinals. A lot to break down when it comes to the potential return of Cole Strange to the lineup, and we need someone with a reasonable take, a level-headed approach to this Patriots O-line, which has been much maligned.

Starting point is 00:01:57 That is our good friend, our resident voice of reason, my Patriots Paisan, columnist extraordinaire for Patsfans.com, as well as being the co-host of Patriots 4th and 2. He is Steve Balistrieri. Steve, thanks for joining me here today. Welcome back to Locked On Patriots, bud. Thanks for having me, and yeah, the bye week is over. We'll get back to some

Starting point is 00:02:17 football. You know, this is going to be a very interesting last few weeks of the season. Yeah, it definitely will be. Murph joined me yesterday here. We opened up the Lockdown Patriots mailbag. It had been a long time since that mailbag had been open.

Starting point is 00:02:36 We had sacks and sacks of letters, Steve, that really deserved to be in that mailbag. And overwhelmingly, Patriots Nation is wondering whether or not the Patriots are going to be focused on winning and trying to maximize their efforts on the field in these last four games, or whether or not they'd be best served by improving their draft status. So to speak, we're not going to use the T word here on lockdown Patriots. I don't like to use it. I don't believe in it.

Starting point is 00:03:00 I don't think the Patriots do as well by consensus. Murph. And I believe they are going to put their best foot forward on the field. And the activity that the Patriots engaged in on Tuesday seems to support that cause. Cole Strange, the number 29 overall pick in the 2022 NFL draft, will be rejoining the lineup this week. And Steve, we've seen it right from the beginning. Being a first-round pick comes with a lot of responsibility. A lot of Patriots fans believe he hasn't had the opportunity to grow into Steve, you and I both know that the system that Alex Van Pelt loves to run, which is outside zone runs, is exactly where Cole is at his best when it comes to being a blocker. When you look at the return of Cole Strange, what do you believe it brings to the Patriots offensive line?

Starting point is 00:03:59 How much of an improvement can we expect to see with Kull back in the lineup? Well, I'm intrigued. I mean, because for the reasons you just mentioned, right? You know, this is the type of offense that he's best suited for. And I know there's been a lot of talk of him moving to center. But when I look at the Patriots offensive line, you know, right now, I think center is one of their probably least worrisome positions. I know Brown isn't – he's not perfect, but I would rather see him go back to his original spot at left guard.

Starting point is 00:04:45 And if they want to move him to center in 2025, I'm all for that. Because we know David Andrews is getting older and, you know, he's banged up. So I wouldn't mind that in the future. But I think they could really use some help at left guard. I know Michael Jordan struggled badly there down the last several weeks, I guess. And putting Strange back there and an offense that he fits in, I think, would be a really, really good idea. And I think he could have some positive impact there oh I think he definitely could without any question look you look at last year and what Cole was able to give you injuries kept him from the field for a good portion of the season still suited up for nine

Starting point is 00:05:37 games 564 offensive snaps last season for him credited with only two penalties and three sacks allowed so you know that he's going to give you quality minutes and quality play when he's out there on the field. The knock on call right now is that you can't really get a read on exactly what type of fit he's been in New England so far. We mentioned that he's at his best when it comes to an outside zone. He struggled when it comes to the gap schemes that the Patriots have loved to run the last couple of years. I think something that I was excited about, I know Murph joined me, I know you've talked about this as well, is seeing Cole's tenaciousness as a run blocker,

Starting point is 00:06:13 that quickness that he has to generate that sudden impact on power runs that he is so adept to being able to block for. One of the great assets that he brings, tremendous upper body strength. He's got the ability to keep defenders at bay and pass protection and i always love the way this kid moves from side to side he can mirror his opponent he knows how to be able to adjust his athleticism whether he's going to be facing a more athletic type defender in a linebacker position or someone more like a lumbering defender maybe in a defensive tackle he knows how to adjust in terms of what his opponent is going to be so that to me is what i'm looking forward to when it comes to his fit and an alex van pelt offense but steve you and i both know that this team needs more help

Starting point is 00:06:55 than just cole strange coming back is it realistic to expect that his insertion back into this lineup whether it be a guard or whether he does see time at center, and we're not sure what this means for Ben Brown yet, should the Patriots expect to see an immediate impact when he steps on the field this Sunday? I hope so. You know, I would hope that he would have an impact, especially in the running game.

Starting point is 00:07:23 I think, you know, that's an area where they've struggled most of the year with the offensive line i mean the the running game has been very inconsistent and you know to get guys like vermondre stevenson and um antonio gibson going um for this last month of the season. Now that the weather's turning colder, you know, you get that running game going. It gives you a better chance to win. I agree with you.

Starting point is 00:07:54 I think someone like Cole Strange coming in strengthens the middle part of that offensive line, and that's been a problem area. I understand that the tackles have been even more problematic than the interior, but Patriots have had their issues on the inside of that line, I think maybe more than we had anticipated heading into this season with some of the injuries and some of the difficulties that they've had with Andrews and Robinson taking a little bit of time to ease into his role as a

Starting point is 00:08:19 rookie. There have been some problems there, and I think Cole brings stability to that interior. And I think that's something the Patriots will welcome with open arms this coming week. Yeah, I absolutely agree with that. You know, like I said, I'm intrigued to see, you know, if he's ready to go. I know that, you know, they started practicing him. Tomorrow would have been, or was it today, the end of his window. Right.

Starting point is 00:08:49 So, you know, he's been back in the practice field for three weeks. I'm hoping that he can step right in seamlessly and provide some juice in that running game. I mean, I know the pass protection has been poor as well, but, you know, if he can give them a little juice, you know, as well as the next guy we're going to be talking about, right? You know, you get a little improvement there. I'm not saying massive improvement, but some. I mean, this offense

Starting point is 00:09:25 could take off. It could take off. And again, Alex Van Pelt's offense, Steve, is predicated on a strong running back. You want that strong running game to facilitate play action, to be able to spring the quarterback and give him the opportunity to either go off script if things break down. But most importantly, when you have a strong running game and a strong outside zone presence it opens up play action you can take the deep shots down the field you can try to navigate and pick apart the intermediate areas of the football field so that i think is where cole is automatically going to upgrade this uh offensive line again tremendously tenacious run blocker folks that's where the Patriots will be so glad to see Cole come back in my estimation you will see an improvement probably a marked improvement

Starting point is 00:10:11 an immediate improvement when it comes to their ability to run the football because he's just that good in this type of environment and we'll see we'll see what it means for the rest of the line the tackles the right side um and what it means for the man in the middle in ben brown uh steve you hinted at this early before we take our leave of this subject um your thoughts on cole potentially getting any snaps at the center position this week do you think we'll just see him in his familiar role of left guard or could they be auditioning him for a future in the middle i mean we don't know i mean we I mean, we're not in the meeting rooms with the coaches. Very good point.

Starting point is 00:10:49 I would hope that they just leave Ben Brown where he's at for now. Agreed. I mean, if you're going to do it, you have all off to to work with cole at the the center position um especially you know he can work in the offseason but you know i i really think again center is the least of their worries right now on on the offensive line i i think brown has done pretty good and rather than disrupt that i would rather see them use him where i think they could really need him and that's at left guard yeah absolutely and let's not forget that cole is coming back from a patella tendon injury that is going to require him to get his game legs back you don't want to ease him back into the lineup and then flush him into a position that he's not

Starting point is 00:11:44 familiar with or that is not his strong suit as of right now so i completely agree with you leave ben where he is i think ben's done an admirable job filling in for david andrews an insurmountable task to try to fill in for a team captain and one of your best linemen arguably your best lineman um and at this point it's important to see where cole is and where he can go before we really determine his next destination for the new england patriots but it is good news folks that he will be back out on the field he's not the only offensive lineman the patriots may be putting back on the field before the end of the season rookie tackle caden wallace has returned to the practice field and his window to return to the 53-man roster is now open.

Starting point is 00:12:28 Might we see Caden before the end of the season? And if so, what does it mean for the rest of the Patriots O-line? Steve and I are going to talk about that point and more when this episode of the Locked On Patriots podcast continues, a proud part of the Locked On Podcast Network, your team, every day. Hey, Locked On Patriots fans. I know you're like me, and your holiday shopping list is, let's just say, far from complete. Well, if that's the case, I've got the perfect gift for the passionate sports fan in your life.

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Starting point is 00:15:19 That's right, $50 instantly when you play just $5. PrizePix, run your game. Patriots fans, thank you once again for joining us here today on Locked On Patriots. Joining me to talk about all the Patriots comings and goings as they leave behind the bye week is my good friend and Patriots bison, Steve Balistrieri of Patsfans.com. Steve, in the previous segment, we talked about the activation of Cole Strange from injured reserve. Foregone conclusion now that he'll be in the lineup on Sunday. And I know everyone is looking forward to seeing Strange Days return to New England.

Starting point is 00:15:58 The offensive line needs as much help as it can get. It's in terrible shape. And someone of Cole's caliber coming back can only mean good things for the pats all line but he's not the only lineman that may be making his return to the field sooner rather than later the patriots did practice on monday because of the bye week folks the practice schedule amended a little bit and joining them was rookie tackle caden wallace now caden has been out he's been on injured reserve since early October. Coming back into the lineup, easing his way back in,

Starting point is 00:16:30 a lot of noise surrounding where he would be best suited, Steve. Most believe that he was most comfortable at right tackle, including our good buddy Thomas Murphy, who said straight along that he believed Caden was a right tackle, not a left side guy. However, Elliot Wolfe has said several times that he believed Caden was a right tackle, not a left side guy. However, Elliot Wolfe has said several times that he believed that Caden possessed not only the athleticism, but also the on-field savvy to make the switch to the left-hand side. Regardless of where the Patriots play him,

Starting point is 00:16:57 Caden's athleticism and his ability to be a lineman, especially a tackle, is certainly going to be a welcome addition for the Patriots back. When you look at this move and you look at him returning to the practice field, what do you think it means for the Patriots offensive line short-term and long-term? Well, in the short term, they're going to give him some looks because Gerard Mayo has said it on several occasions now. They want to look at these young guys and see what they have in them. And he mentioned Caden Wallace by name. So I think that's a really good,

Starting point is 00:17:29 really good indication that the, the team wants to see what they have in him. I would love to see him be able to come back and, you know, at least for the last month or so in the season, play some right tackle, you know, at least for the last month or so in the season, play some right tackle. You know, let him get his feet wet again under there. He's still a rookie.

Starting point is 00:17:53 You know, we'll see what happens, you know, next season. I think this offseason will be a big one for him. And we'll play it by ear but you know um i heard mike reese mentioned just in passing that they they meaning the coaching staff really like hayden wallace so when mike mentions those little tidbits like that you put your ear to the ground and because you know that oh yeah he's always right when he says stuff like that that's why he's the best in the business and uh so i think there's a very good chance that we'll see a lot of him and the fact that the patriots do like him all without question and there's a lot of reasons to like Caden Wallace.

Starting point is 00:18:45 First of all, anyone who saw his four years at Penn State knows this is a tremendously athletic lineman. This kid has the ability to do essentially anything you need him to do on a football field. And honestly, Steve, I think that's why guys like Scott Peters and Elliot Wolfe and Gerard Mayo, and maybe even Alex Van Pelt thrown in there believe that this kid possessed that athleticism and that versatility to be able to switch from the right to the left and they thought that could be a natural fit for him obviously they're seeing now that it's not quite that easy to make that switch I gotta give a tip of the cap to our good friend Thomas Murphy who said that right from the beginning this kid is a righty he's not someone that's going to be able to come in and make that switch easily on the left, need at least a couple of years to train him to make

Starting point is 00:19:28 his body go the other way. This was, yeah, this was definitely something that I think the Pats believe they could do with him. And I think now they're going to look to the right side as his best fit, especially since Michael Wenner now is back at guard. And because of that, you need someone, a stabilizing force on the right tackle position. Patriots have been going with a combination of the Darien Lowe and Demandre Jacobs. I think they see much more of a future and much more of an anchor in Caden Wallace. Talked about the athleticism. This kid can bend. He's strong, very powerful, very tough. I loved what I saw on film from him at during his days as a

Starting point is 00:20:05 Nittany Lion at Penn State I think I agree with you I think his best fit is at right tackle and I think the Patriots are going to try to get him back out there on the field at least get him some in-game action before we head into 2025 because that's really I think where you're going to see this kid's abilities come alive. Absolutely. I totally agree with that. And, you know, I think it's needed. I mean, if, if they're convinced he's going to be their right tackle of the future and he is, that makes your job easier next off season, because now you're looking for strictly a left tackle.

Starting point is 00:20:41 You can find one in free agency or in the draft, depending on who they like in the draft or not. So I think that's the smart move. Yeah, I do. I think it's a smart move as well. And look, folks, even if Caden does not make it onto the field for in-game action over the course of these last four games, even if he's just getting practice experience, it's still invaluable. It's a good sign that he's healthy enough for that type of contact. So that's always a great thing. And then you look and you say he's getting more experience each and every day and learning to grow into his role. So that way he can take his rookie experience and parlay that into a pretty strong sophomore season. So Steve, good news for the New England Patriots offensive line. There hasn't been a whole lot of it this season, and that's why I

Starting point is 00:21:29 think they're so glad to get these two guys back in the lineup in some way, shape, or form. But they weren't the only moves made by the Patriots. That's right. Before we turn the page here and we move on to the Arizona Cardinals, one Patriot coming in, another Patriot going out, and they both have ties to the Minnesota Vikings organization. Steve and I are going to talk about those comings and goings when we wrap up our discussion right here on the Locked On Patriots podcast, a proud part of the Locked On Podcast Network, your team every day. Locked On listeners, get ready to tackle NFL action with FanDuel,

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Starting point is 00:23:07 Balistrieri of Patsfans.com. My Patriots by Zahn, always lending his wisdom and counsel the way only he can. Steve, we've talked a lot about the offensive line in today's episode. We've talked about the imminent return of Cole Strange to the lineup. We've talked about the potential return of

Starting point is 00:23:24 Caden Wallace to the lineup and what it means individually for the guard, the tackle, and even the center positions. But we're going to switch gears here for just a moment because in order for the Patriots to make these moves, one player unfortunately had to be on his way out, and that player was wide receiver K.J. Osborne. Now, Steve, I'll be the first to admit, Osborne was someone that I was very excited to watch in a Patriots uniform. I thought his ability as shorthands, his tested catch ability, what we saw from him in Minnesota was just the tip of the iceberg when it came to what this kid could do on a football field. Unfortunately, it just never worked out for

Starting point is 00:24:02 him here in New England seven catches for 57 yards and one touchdown is his final stat line as a New England Patriot Steve when you look at KJ Osborne's departure I know a lot of Patriots fans are not going to be sad to see this one coming but what about his game what about his fit in New England just didn't seem to come together the way the Pats hoped it would when they signed him back in March? Yeah, I, you know, I had high hopes for him. Not that he was going to be like, you know, ultra productive receiver. But I thought they were going to get the same, you know, production out of him that he had for a couple of years with the Vikings. And it just never worked out.

Starting point is 00:24:47 I think, you know, when the offense kind of struggled out of the gate, it kind of set him back. And then by the time they made the switch to Drake May, he was no longer part of, you know uh solution i guess you could say so he got kind of phased out and it's very unfortunate i thought he was going to be much more productive here it just didn't work out i think he's a good player um that hasn't changed it just you know sometimes things don't work out like you hope and that was certainly one of them without question and I agree with you on KJ I just think it was a tough fit for him here look by his own admission when he came in he says I am most comfortable when I'm on the inside and

Starting point is 00:25:39 if Patriots fans are looking at the way this wide receiver core is set. DeMario Douglas is pretty well set on the inside. So now you're looking at him trying to vie for a spot on the perimeter or a reserve role in that area. DeMario was not going to be displaced. So when you look at Keishon Booty emerging and becoming a little bit more of a factor, I think the Patriots still hold out hope that Jalen Polk and Javon Baker can be what they drafted them to be. Kendrick Bourne has emerged as someone that can be more of a veteran type leader in this wide receiver core. KJ just found himself on the outside looking in, but this is still a very talented receiver and someone that I am glad is going to get a chance to be able to catch on elsewhere. Over the course of the last

Starting point is 00:26:20 few hours, since the news of his release has hit, I've seen a lot of people in Patriots Nation demeaning this kid. I think the people that are doing that are not really familiar with this kid's game and what he's capable of doing on the field when he's properly utilized. I'm not knocking the Pats coaching staff for that, Steve, because I just think that they tried to make him into something that maybe he wasn't comfortable being, and I think it just led to a bad fit but folks this is a kid that definitely is not only a good contributor on the field but a great contributor off it as well all the coaches that I've spoken to this year have talked about him being a leader in that locker room even though he was very underutilized he never ever brought it and made it personal that little problem that he had with his social media account where something was leaked out was a private message that never should have seen the

Starting point is 00:27:08 light of day and really was, I think, blown way out of proportion. But this is a kid that is known for his community involvement. He hosts youth football camps, provides giveaways for back to school and underprivileged kids that need help. He also supports two families in his hometown with rent assistance each and every year and something that i wrote about when he first came on board here in new england uh was he was responsible for playing a vital role in saving the life of former reality tv star nelson thomas from a horrific automobile accident that could have ended in thomas losing his life kj and his uber driver at the time were there and helped uh be able to carry this man to safety.

Starting point is 00:27:45 So anyone that's knocking KJ Osborne on the way out, folks, he's one of the good ones. I definitely wish him well. And unfortunately, it just didn't work out here in New England for him. But Steve, there wasn't only a departure. The New England Patriots also bringing in a new player, a new kicker that will join the Pats practice squad. But could this be a little push on Joey Sly? Obviously, John Parker Romo is the kicker we're referring to.

Starting point is 00:28:11 He was released by the Minnesota Vikings and did sign with the team's practice squad. Steve, when you look at what Romo has done, both in his time in the XFL, as well as what he's done this year so far with the Vikings, 11 of 12 in field goal tries and 7 of 8 on point afters. Is this just a back-building move for the Patriots when it comes to their practice squad? Or could they be looking to push Joey Sly a little bit, who has been a little inconsistent the last few weeks? I think it's a, well, I don't know if anything's bothering Sly physically.

Starting point is 00:28:48 Maybe he's going through some stuff right now, and that's why he's been inconsistent. I know that Shank 25-yard field goal, something looked very amiss with that. Yeah. But, again, that's just speculation on my part. I think that they're sending, if there's nothing physically wrong with Sly, I think they're sending a message to Sly, you know, saying, if you don't shape up, you know, you can ship out.

Starting point is 00:29:22 Because we have a guy in here right now. And I think it'll be good to push him. Yeah, I think it'll be good to push him too. And look, bottom line, Joey Sly is a professional kicker. He knows his, he's been to the puppet show. He's seen the strings. This kid has kicked from 63 yards out. You know, he's got the strength to be a power kicker.

Starting point is 00:29:41 You know, he's got the accuracy to hit in short yardage reigns and he had a tremendous training camp and has really been solid throughout the entire season so certainly not ready to push joey sly out the door by any stretch of the imagination folks but you always have to be ready and unfortunately with kickers sometimes momentum can be your best friend or your worst enemy uh and if it does show up, it can have difficulty. So it's always good to have another option. So I think the Patriots saw that. They want to make sure that they have somebody on this roster that can do it.

Starting point is 00:30:12 And I'm looking forward to hearing the practice reports on Romo to see what he's able to do and whether or not he is indeed pushing Joey Sly a little bit back to where he needs to be. If not, Patriots got themselves a pretty good backup. And you never can have too much firepower, Steve. You know that better than anybody. But what can I say? I graciously always appreciate you lending your wisdom, your counsel here to Locked On Patriots.

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Starting point is 00:31:15 locked on Cardinals. Stay locked into locked on Patriots folks. You won't want to miss a single second of the action. In the meantime, on behalf of Steve Balistrieri, I'm Mike debate, reminding all of you to stay safe, to stay well, to be the change you wish to see in the world. Have a great day, everyone,

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