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Starting point is 00:00:00 Will the return of a key interior offensive lineman help the New England Patriots in their quest to earn an upset victory over the 49ers on Sunday? Stick around, you're about to be locked in to the Locked On Patriots Podcast. You are Locked On Patriots, your daily New England Patriots podcast. Part of the Locked On Podcast Network, your team every day. Hello to all of you, Foxborough faithful. And thank you once again for making Locked On Patriots a daily part of your New England Patriots coverage. I'm your host, Mike DeBate, and I cover your New England Patriots for Patriots Country of Aplon Sports.

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Starting point is 00:00:59 first $5 bet and you'll get started with $200 in bonus bets. Guaranteed. Visit FanDuel. you'll get started with two hundred dollars in bonus bets guaranteed visit fanduel.com to get started and pats fans the final injury report for your new england patriots is out and published this sunday over the san francisco 49ers 4 15 p.m eastern kickoff from levi stadium in santa clara california on today's show, we're going to be talking about the potential return of interior offensive lineman City So. I'm going to talk a little bit about the Darian Lowe, who is out for this Sunday's game.

Starting point is 00:01:34 Even going to delve into Caden Wallace and whether or not the rookie may be able to give it a go after suffering an injury in last week's loss to the Jets. Also going to get an update on the injury to linebacker Juwan Bentley, and maybe even a little update on the conditions of both defensive lineman Christian Barmore, as well as wide receiver Kendrick Bourne. The only man that can provide the information that we need is a very good friend of the program. He is a doctor of physical therapy,

Starting point is 00:02:02 as well as being the publisher of bangedupbills.com, and also handles injury analysis for all of the AFC East. My good friend, Dr. Kyle Trimble joins me today. Kyle, thank you for joining me here. Welcome back to Locked On Patriots. Mike, thanks for having me back on. It's always great to talk with you. Absolutely, and it's always great to talk with you too, to gain your, as I like to say, wisdom and counsel, but more so than that, Kyle, your expertise in this area. And where else would we start? The Patriots banged up offensive line. Kyle, I know up in Buffalo, things are going great for the Bills right now, but down here in New England, not so much. The New England Patriots at one and two, Jacoby Brissett running for his life on nearly every drop back, and a big part of that has been problems along the offensive line. Now, some of that is due to inexperience and poor play, but if we're being fair, a lot of it is due to injuries at key positions, especially on the left-hand side.

Starting point is 00:02:57 Patriots getting a bit of decent news this week regarding left guard City So, who missed the first three weeks of the season because of an ankle injury. According to head coach Gerard Mayo, Kyle, he is nearing a return to the football field. In fact, the team is pretty optimistic that he may make that return this Sunday against the 49ers. He suffered the injury in the preseason game against the Washington Commanders. Kyle, knowing what you know about this injury, how he suffered it, typical recovery time, what can the Patriots expect out of City So this weekend if, in fact, he suits up?

Starting point is 00:03:32 So to recap, like you said, he did suffer it against Washington. It was a routine play. He was getting pushed backwards. And it was late in the second quarter when this happened, I believe. And he was getting pushed backwards, and it looked like he jammed his right ankle. The foot was everted or turned out a little bit. There was a possibility of this being maybe a high ankle sprain, because there would be a position of that where the foot gets jammed up and then outward,

Starting point is 00:03:58 which stretches the syndesmoses of the ankle and puts pressure on that lateral myelitis or the bottom of the fibula. There's a possibility that given the timeline and we see him miss about a month there, that could be in line with what it is. I wasn't necessarily confident when I saw it. Oh, that's a high ankle sprain for sure. There could be the possibility of a bone bruise in there as well because, I mean, that's some jamming, especially being as big as he is. That could be in play too.

Starting point is 00:04:24 He did know at the time when he is that could be in play too he did know at the time when he did suffer the injury he thought he popped his achilles uh thankfully he didn't because he would be you know out for the whole year and it'd be a big thing for him to come back there so um it's either high ankle sprain potentially bone bruise based off how he's jamming it up there might be some other stuff in play but I didn't have the best angle um that i saw on that there so either way having a month off to recover and rehab from that would be ample time to at least get up and closer to 100 there uh given the patriots rebuilding aspect of their roster i don't blame them for saying hey let's get one or better offensive lineman the time he needs to get back in play rather than

Starting point is 00:05:01 have him try to run through this injury and be limited all season there so um i don't know if the injury necessarily prevent him messing this amount of time or whether being proactive and say hey let's get this thing the ample time it needs to get fully healthy and then that way you're good to go and keep some continuity on the offensive line there so um the timeline let's say for example high ankle can be anywhere from four to six weeks even mild ones maybe short up a little bit. Offensive linemen can play through them, but every time you post up on that leg and you push and you drive, it just continues to stress that syndesmosis that keeps the tibia and fibula together over the talus of the ankle. So every time you stress it, just pain and just weakness, and it's not fun for a player to be doing that and no matter tape or

Starting point is 00:05:45 bracing can really get that thing healed back up or stabilize it until it gives it time so we might hear some more information later on in the season but i'm expecting to be closer to 100 if he does play in week four yeah very good piece of information and city was a participant in practice all week long and that started the chatter about the possibility of him being able to come back. Gerard Mayo, again, earlier this week, saying he was looking forward to seeing him in the lineup. Those types of things, pieces of information you usually don't get from a Patriots head coach regarding the health of one of their players, especially heading into the week, was refreshing because it gave, I think, a lot of optimism for City to come back

Starting point is 00:06:25 because their replacement left guard, Michael Jordan, who signed with the team just a couple of weeks ago from the practice squad, he's out for this game as well. So New England right now kind of down to their second-slash-third option at the position because, as we all know, and we've talked about him quite often in the offseason, Kyle uh cole strange is also out indefinitely and we're still awaiting his return so cole was originally supposed to be the starting left guard city was the starting right guard they move him over to the left he gets injured and then

Starting point is 00:06:56 all of a sudden they're down to jordan for the last couple of games and now with jordan out city looks like he's coming back in to help shore up the interior of that offensive line, and that's good news for Jacoby Brissett, and especially the Patriots' run game, who's so predicated on that strong front to be able to run and facilitate the run. Having City in the lineup is definitely good news for those guys to get the run game going for the Patriots, but as we all know, it's not just about the interior it's really about the tackles that have been performing poorly this year for New England and the Darien Lowe a knee injury is going to keep the Darien sidelined for back-to-back contests and again he may not be the second coming

Starting point is 00:07:38 of Matt Light here at the tackle position but he is maybe the Patriots' most experienced, maybe their safest option at the position. Based on what you know about Bedarian's injury, how long do you think he may be on the shelf, and what could the Patriots expect from him long-term? So Lowe suffered what appeared to be a right knee injury on the last offensive series before overtime against Seattleattle i believe is in week two uh he he was getting pushed backwards and he had a body kind of come out of nowhere and i think this is also when uh i can't remember jacoby percent did get taken out at the on this play there too but somebody kind of not necessarily rolled up into lowe's right ankle uh knee but he

Starting point is 00:08:23 got hit from behind and that seemed to bring him down and there wasn't any indication that he had suffered an injury until you kind of saw some reports later on that he was on the sideline talking to training staff and then um yeah the his backup um caden wallace yeah um yes so caden wallace for overtime. And then unfortunately they had a blues in. So by video, the first thing I'm thinking is MCL sprain. And the key thing with MCL sprains is that's where you get the valgus force that stresses the inside portion of the knee, the MCL. And that's a very, very, very common injury.

Starting point is 00:08:58 You see the football players, sometimes you need just be hit and just how the knee is bent, how much tension is through that ligament. Sometimes it doesn't even have to be look like a really severe hit to have a pretty moderate or even severe injury to that area so um the fact that if it is an mcl knowing that he has to be working at the edge especially pushing off that right leg you know keeping like if he's playing left tackle it would make sense why they want to slow him and getting back because you have to have so much pushing off.

Starting point is 00:09:26 And if you don't have a strong anchor to keep the guy outside, you're going to be beat like a drum and defensive ends are going to be looking like all pros against anybody with that type of injury. So that's my theory, at least on that. And so if he does return soon, he'll probably have a hinge brace on the area and maybe move a little gingerly, but you know, MCL sprains can be anywhere from four to six weeks

Starting point is 00:09:46 you know for your normal population you're probably looking at two maybe three games for a guy like low but keep in mind he was also coming off abdominal oblique injury suffered i believe was the final preseason game so he hasn't been healthy in the better part of a month and so they might just say let's shut you down get you right because we're burning three guys left and right and we can't get you back out there limping around because, you know, practice squad, free agent guys on the on the street. That's not a great look to, you know, for Drake may eventually want to step behind there. And you're getting Jacoby Brissett just beat to snot. Yeah, without any question. I mean, Jacoby right now is being pressured on greater than 40% of his dropbacks.

Starting point is 00:10:25 44.8 right now is the estimated percentage. In a couple of games and in a couple of circumstances, that mark has eclipsed the 50% mark. And that is a daunting task for any quarterback in any way, shape, and form. Jacoby Brissett has been under a lot of pressure. There's no question about it, both literally and figuratively, Kyle. So any relief he can get will be welcome news. But thank you for the update on the Darien Lowe and what Patriots can expect there. Because right now, again, he is probably your best option at the position unless the Patriots make another move here.

Starting point is 00:11:00 He's probably the best bet right now and probably will be the guy protecting the blind side of Drake May when and if he does take the reins of this team in short order. I mentioned Caden Wallace earlier, Kyle, and Caden actually was the starting left guard against the New York Jets last Thursday. He missed the final 14 snaps due to a knee injury that he suffered. Looked like Jets defensive lineman Leonard Taylor appeared to have stepped on the back of his leg. That caused the knee injury, and he's been banged up a little bit. Questionable for this game against the 49ers this weekend. Obviously, not the ideal situation for Caden, but what can you tell us about his injury? From what you've seen? Does it look like he is more or less likely to suit up? Because a lot of people are thinking that the newly signed DeMontre Jacobs,

Starting point is 00:11:52 who was claimed off of waivers, may end up being the Patriots' fourth starting left tackle in as many games. That would be not good if that's the case there. Four guys in four games like that there. Like you mentioned, he was stepped on. ESPN's Mike Rice, he's been starting to put out some injury videos, the All-22, so I really appreciated him putting that stuff out there because sometimes that makes my job easier. I even thanked him.

Starting point is 00:12:16 But if you're looking for some injury nuggets, check out Mike's page on X because he is putting some stuff out there. Then I can kind of go from there. But I'm actually looking at the video right now as we're talking. And, you know, like you said, Leonard Taylor does step on his leg, but it doesn't seem like there's much of anything. He seems like he almost steps on the outside portion of his ankle and then he starts to go down and so on his right side.

Starting point is 00:12:39 It's almost like he gets stepped on and then he like hops and then comes down there. So, you know my my initial thing is do you have an mcl because he was pushed over and try to push off the right side and maybe just that extra force from the outside led to an mcl sprain you know he was he was pushing out i don't really see a huge mechanism for injury for a meniscus but when you guys got a lot of pressure down through there the knees pivoted he could have tweaked something in there i want to lean toward mcl which would give a better outcome and a return timeline but um you know this only happened you know what a week and a half ago so

Starting point is 00:13:15 even in any injury in there the biggest guy that is is going to take some time to get back there so this one i'd want a little more information on before i made a definitive thing but i wouldn't be surprised if it was a you know once again two three week timeline like we just talked about with low just need that time to kind of get back up to the speed of things and make sure that the knee is going to hold up there yeah absolutely and uh jacob's uh already getting the phrases sung by uh his coaches alex van pelt gerard, had good things to say about Jermontre this week. Kind of makes you realize that it's more likely than not that he probably will be getting the start here, especially with what you're telling us about Caden Wallace's injury. And folks, again, keep a sharp eye on the active and inactive list that comes out prior to the game on Sunday.

Starting point is 00:14:01 That'll be telltale. Saturday, sometimes you see these names pop up on lists, and all of a sudden they're downgraded from questionable to out. It'll be interesting to see if that is indeed the case with Caden Wallace this time around. Right now, as of the time we're recording this, he is still questionable. So, Kyle, thank you. We appreciate all of the information when it comes to the O-line,

Starting point is 00:14:21 and the New England Patriots are going to need that O-line at top strength, or at least as close as they can get to it to help fend off what's going to be a formidable and hungry San Francisco 49ers defensive front. But the New England Patriots defense, Kyle, is also without one of their best players. Juwan Bentley suffering a torn pectoral. He's out for the year, now officially on injured reserve what can the patriots expect from juwan's recovery kyle is going to walk us through that and tell us what to expect from juwan upon his return when this episode of the lockdown patriots podcast continues a proud part of the lockdown podcast network your team every day. With Robinhood Gold, you don't need a silver spoon to eat up the financial favors of

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Starting point is 00:16:42 And here today to help break down the injury history, the very health of your team, your favorite team in Foxborough, is our resident expert, Dr. Kyle Trimble, publisher of Banged Up Bills and, of course, doctor of physical therapy. And Kyle, in the previous segment, we talked a lot about the Patriots' banged-up offensive line, but arguably the biggest injury that the Patriots have sustained so far in season is the torn pectoral suffered by team captain Juwan Bentley just as a recap folks Juwan appeared to

Starting point is 00:17:13 suffer the injury on a run play with three minutes and 35 seconds remaining in the first quarter of the Patriots 23 to 20 loss to the Seattle Seahawks a couple of weeks ago stayed in for one more play before exiting the game. And, of course, now it has been confirmed that Torn Pectoral will keep him from the field. Kyle, I've discussed several times here on Locked On Patriots about the injury to Juwan Bentley and exactly how much of a detriment it was.

Starting point is 00:17:38 Patriots fans are clamoring for knowledge on when they can expect Juwan to return, if they should expect Juwan to return. Based on this type of injury, based on what you know from how he suffered it, typical recovery time, what is Juwan right now looking at in terms of a recovery? It's a pretty uncomplicated recovery, which is nice. The Bills have suffered several of these before and have had great success getting these guys back in time uh just a quick recap um once again i mentioned mike race vspn he had uh put the play up on his uh x page and this was great to see how the injury happens and what happened was he

Starting point is 00:18:18 engaged with seattle right guard anthony bradford uh bradford wrest him down with the left arm, and then Bentley came up and started moving his shoulder around. Unfortunately, the arm was probably placed in the abduction and external rotation and just forced back suddenly, and that's usually a classic mechanism for a pectoral tear. And the fact that they had to do injury reserve and get surgery for this is because the muscle tore at the tendon, which connects to the bone. Sometimes if you get a pectoral strain where more of the tears in the muscle belly, you don't necessarily have to miss as extended amount of time there. So I know that the wording was interesting. They said it was season ending. Now there can be more damage than

Starting point is 00:19:01 we know of, and he might truly be out all season. Given the struggle with the Patriots this year, unfortunately, maybe they were hedging their bets to, hey, he's going to be out for the entire year, don't expect him back. But we see guys routinely come back from a pectoral tear with surgery in three months. Just to give a nice recap with the Bills, they had that with Dequan Jones last year. He suffered that in week five against the Jaguars and returned in week 18 for the Bills playoff push. And then several years before that, offensive guard and tackle John Feliciano suffered that during the second preseason practice

Starting point is 00:19:38 and then came back midway through the season. So if Bentley can return, he'd probably be looking at a mid-December, maybe late-December return based off of how the rehab is going. Of course, you have to factor in possible setbacks or maybe there's more damage than we had thought there. So I wouldn't count your chickens before the hatch and say, hey, he's going to be gone for the year. But when he does come back, he'll have to wear a shoulder harness.

Starting point is 00:20:03 There will be some growing pens getting him back up to speed because they'll have missed three months of football. But it's not impossible for him to return. It's just a matter of just letting the tissue heal up and make sure that he can do everything he needs to. And that would be great, I think, especially if the Patriots can stay competitive and make a late-season playoff push.

Starting point is 00:20:19 Yeah, that's a very good point. Actually, that was going to be my follow-up to you, is that stranger things have happened. If the Patriots can string together a few decent wins and remain competitive, is there a chance that Juwan Bentley may be able to come back and play this season? And it sounds like there is an option. There is a chance that he might be able to do it, especially if that recovery time holds up. And Juwan is one of the stronger guys on the team. Hopefully that strength translates to recovery and translates to a strong recovery for him if that is indeed the case it's nice to

Starting point is 00:20:51 know that he could end up being back out on the field sooner rather than later typically when you see these types of injuries Kyle and you've mentioned that the Bills have had a few of them and players have come back when they do come back on the field, because Juwan is such a key cog in the Patriots run defense and also helping to shore up the middle part of that defense to allow the pass rush to be able to get to work, is there any chance he'll be limited in his abilities when he comes back? Or is this a situation where once he's rehabbed, once he's ready to go, you can expect to be Juwan Bentley of old?

Starting point is 00:21:29 Yes and no. I mean, from a situational football standpoint, positioning, he'll be the Juwan Bentley of old because he still has the mental reps and everything else that goes with that. But physically, there is going to be some restrictions. Like he's not going to have the full range of motion of his shoulder, not because the rehab won't have done well. It's just because he'll be wearing a shoulder harness.

Starting point is 00:21:46 It prevents him from maybe getting that guy that's coming outside and he wants to get some fingertips on him or something. So I'll have to work on squaring up guys a little more in front of him, make sure he has textbook tackling and just better technique and whatnot. There might be some slight deficits in terms of wrapping up the tackle because even though they've sworn, so in the tendon back to the bone and get all retouched and strengthen back up,

Starting point is 00:22:10 there's still that timeframe that he needs to fully get back up to strength. I mean, you know, you're talking about wrapping up 250, 300 pound guys, trying to tackle them and go full speed there. So like he might notice he's not a hundred percent, but you know,

Starting point is 00:22:23 you and me and everybody else might say, okay, he looks pretty good out there, but there might be some small things that either you kind of see occasional play, but you know, the fact that he's back out there would be a huge boost. I mean, from a morale standpoint, even just a talent standpoint, if he does get back out there. So yeah, some deficits, but not enough where it wouldn't be safe for him to play. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:22:43 Very, very good point. And again, it points all to the importance of Juwan Bentley to this team. And it goes beyond what he does on the field, which is extremely important. But Juwan is one of the best communicators in that locker room on that field. And he's the guy that typically wears the green dot each and every Sunday. He's directing traffic. He's letting everyone know where they need to be and he's calling the plays. So if that is the case where they can bring him back and get him meaningful reps, even if the Patriots are not competitive, even from a standpoint of building this team until next year, a lot of that defense is under contract.

Starting point is 00:23:17 So these guys are going to be together for a little while. You want to establish continuity, and it's nice to know that if he's healthy enough to do so, that is an option without re-injuring that or making it worse by coming back a little bit too quickly so good news on juwan bentley folks for the long term unfortunately he won't be out there anytime soon but we all continue to wish juwan the very best in his efforts to earn his way back on the football field maybe in 2024 but definitely in 2025. And speaking of returns, Kyle, here on Locked On Patriots, we love to end on a high note,

Starting point is 00:23:51 and that's exactly what we're going to do, folks. In just a moment, a couple of fan favorites may be eligible to come off their various injury lists after the Week 4 matchup with the San Francisco 49ers. Is it realistic that the patriots could be suiting up kendrick bourne or christian barmore stay tuned our resident experts going to weigh in on both subjects in just a moment when this episode of the lockdown patriots podcast wraps up right here on the lockdown podcast network your team every day hey nfl fans you can start the season with a big return on fan duel america's number one sports book so when you get a hunch in the middle of the game you can check out

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Starting point is 00:25:21 being a doctor of physical therapy and an afc east injury expert and kyle we've talked about some of the more high profile injuries to the patriots especially along the offensive line unfortunately pectoral injury to juwan bentley will keep him on the shelf most seem to think it will sideline him for the year but you've outlined a scenario that could envision him suiting up once again this year perhaps of course these are all hypotheticals folks depending on how he rehabs and of course what the patriots record will be but week four is always a linchpin for a lot of these injury lists because players all of a sudden who began the season on an injury list or with his with an

Starting point is 00:26:01 injury designation are all of a sudden eligible to come off. There are two players that are very near and dear to the hearts of Patriots Nation that do have that eligibility at the end of this week, once the final buzzer sounds in week four in their matchup with the San Francisco 49ers. Let's start with one that I believe may be a little bit more of a long shot, but I think would probably give the greatest smile to all of Patriots nation and that's Christian Barmore. Our hearts were collectively with Christian when news came out that he was suffering from blood clots. He would be out indefinitely and he's been in and around the Patriots lately. Of course he's been participating and putting together some humorous

Starting point is 00:26:40 videos, various things that he's been doing to keep his morale up and also keep him around the players and keep their morale up as a team. Christian is one of the most well-liked, one of the most well-respected guys in that locker room. And ironically, Kyle, he's eligible to come off of the non-football injury list after the Patriots' week four game against the 49ers. So whether that will happen remains to be seen. That's going to be dependent on the medical professionals clearance. But based on what you know from blood clots, from recovery, Christian size, his injury history, things of that nature, is there any chance that we may see Christian Barmore on a football field this year for the New England Patriots? It's possible. The fact that

Starting point is 00:27:24 they put him on non-football injury that does allow them to not have to pay him which i'm sure they are paying him but that allows them to kind of keep everything open and just have the ability to return at some point just quickly recap they did discover blood clots around the first week of training camp july 28th was when they made their statement because he had been missing some time, but there really wasn't a clear destination of what was going on. So, you know, they said that he was going to be put out indefinitely and it really just kind of comes down to what's causing the blood clots. On average, athletes miss about six months while they're dealing with the blood clots and trying to get blood thinners and figure out basically what the

Starting point is 00:28:03 underlying cause is, make sure that they're not going to have any reoccurrence with the blood clots and trying to get blood thinners and figure out basically what the underlying cause is make sure that they're not going to have any reoccurrence of the blood clots when they do come off the blood thinners and then they you know get back up to play and conditioning and whatnot so um it's i would think if they were talking about like it coming off after week four there'd be a little more chatter say hey he's moving the right direction but really i haven't heard anything um so i think they're just they know what what's causing blood clots by now it's just a matter of how are they treating it uh and then what the prognosis is like there um just to several players those is not an exhaustive list by any means who have had blood clots um some have returned some not uh billy price he was with the bangles for a while i think he retired because he had blood clot um

Starting point is 00:28:45 i think last year uh wire receiver mercury's good one he missed minimal time though i remember when he was with the browns um david andrews you know the patriots he missed some time kenneth walker of seattle he missed some time in college max mitchell he missed um the end of the 2022 season i believe it was he had a genetic issue um i remember which led to him having some blood clots and then uh trey smith i believe of kansas city so different guys have had different blood clots for different reasons this happens when sometimes you get an injury and uh like a deep bruise the area of heart contusion and sometimes the clotting factors in your your body kind of just all clumped together in one of those deeper veins and you know it's not really a big problem until you're like hey i'm getting kind of sore in this

Starting point is 00:29:29 area and it's not going away and you think it's a pulled muscle or you get like a sharp pain and then something's not right or sometimes they find the clot more up in one of the you know the lungs or you know god forbid the heart or brain but i would think if they got up to the lungs they can still treat it but heart or brain then you're talking about stroke and that's a really big problem so it sounds like he had either more in his lungs where he's maybe getting some shortness breath and they found it or even if they found his legs where they say hey let's get you in blood thinners if they need to break the clot but you know and deal with that so we don't know what's causing if it's genetic thing if it was some type of injury, um, being overweight, um, is a huge thing with that. We don't know if he is diabetic, but I mean, given the size of some of these guys, I wouldn't be

Starting point is 00:30:13 surprised if they are dealing with some of that. I think most of those guys are pretty public about that. Um, not everybody though. That's their personal preference. So I think once they know what's causing it and then how his body's responding, it just can come down to when they know they can say, hey, you can return to practice. You're not going to have the risk of suffering any new blood clots. Or if you do have a blood clot we don't know about, it's going to be dislodged and it's going to go up to your brain and kill you. So they're doing the due diligence. I know Mass General is a really great place for cardiology in general. So I think we'll start hearing some more chatter, but it's not impossible. I think he'll come back

Starting point is 00:30:49 because other guys have shown they can do that and still play at a very high level. Very, very good information. And again, I think a lot of what Patriots Nation is looking at when it comes to Christian is worrying about his long-term health, his immediate health, obviously, but his long-term health as well. And knowing the severity and the seriousness of what this could mean, again, it depends on what's causing it. It depends on his history. It depends on his genetic makeup. But obviously, the Patriots are going to err on the side of caution. They caught this early enough to be able to treat it, hopefully. Looks like that's the case. So if that is indeed the case, then I think

Starting point is 00:31:25 the Patriots will continue their approach with temperance, and that is definitely the just cause. So folks, if you're expecting to see Christian Barmore back out on the field, probably too early to tell right now, but technically he is eligible after this week. So always worth keeping an eye on and always worth keeping an ear to the ground to listen to what the New England Patriots are doing with Christian. But the fact that he is in the building continuing to raise the morale of those around him and himself is always a good sign. And, of course, there is another player that is eligible to perhaps start practice after this week's matchup with the San Francisco 49ers has concluded. And that's wide receiver Kendrick Bourne. Now, Kendrick has been sidelined since tearing his ACL in week eight of last season.

Starting point is 00:32:11 Seems like it's been an elongated recovery time for Kendrick. A lot of people thought he may be back during training camp, during preseason, definitely for the regular season. That did not happen. He started the season on the Pup List, Kyle, but he is eligible to return to practice when week four concludes. Based on the type of ACL injury that Kendrick had, your previous knowledge, how likely is it that we'll see Kendrick sooner rather than later?

Starting point is 00:32:38 I would think very soon. I was kind of surprised when they did start him on a regular season Pup to begin with because he tore in week eight. That was at the end of October. Usually they wait two, three weeks for the repair because they want to make sure the range motion is full in there. They cut down any swelling and kind of get the body prepared because after an injury like that, the whole body wants to shut down. Not the whole body, but the knee and the quads and all the surrounding musculature. So if they get that stronger, they get the range of motion going,

Starting point is 00:33:05 then that way they get a better recovery. And I know, for example, if he went out to, I mispronounced this guy's name, but Dr. Ella Trache out in Los Angeles, he's been the go-to guy for ACLs and shoulders and whatnot. He's very, very particular about range of motion. Like if you don't have a certain range of motion by the time, you know, he wants to do surgery, he delays it until you get that range of motion and get the rehab done. So whether there was delays because of that

Starting point is 00:33:29 or other reasons, but they, they've had this method to make sure that the rehab goes well and the surgery goes well. So once again, let's say he had the surgery in mid November, and then, you know, he's looking at 10 months to return back in training camp. And I thought they would have got him up and going. There's certainly a possibility he could have had a setback at some point, maybe some persistent swelling. There might have been additional damage in there that we didn't see. I mean, the MCL is a commonly injured ligament that we talked about earlier with some of the offensive linemen.

Starting point is 00:34:00 That's not really a big issue. But if he had meniscus in there there some of the meniscal stuff really shouldn't impact the mcl or something like that the acl but sometimes just the multiple damage in there or if there's chondro bone defects due to just how the knee was injured sometimes that delays recovery and that's something they're not going to tell us because that's getting into the minutiae of the injury so for whatever reason, they did stop him. I'd be really confused if they don't activate him after week four and get him up and going. Do I expect him to play in week five? Probably not, just because I think you need to get acclimated

Starting point is 00:34:34 with the offense and get going. So maybe you're looking at week six for him to return. He just needs to get, you know, actually practicing, which is a downside of the pup, is that you can't practice with the team, but you can be around for rehabbing. So the fact that he wasn't ready to go week one, week two is surprising, but there's always something we don't know with this stuff. And hopefully you can get back up and go week six, maybe week seven.

Starting point is 00:34:57 Yeah, that's good news for the New England Patriots, obviously, who need as much help in the pass catching department as possible. Kendrick, at the time that he left the game last year, was the Patriots' most productive receiver, so he's definitely capable of winning his matchups all over the field, and it's good to know that with his rehab now looking like it's behind him, the best is yet to come when it comes to Kendrick Bourne, and the Patriots will need all the help they can get on the field offensively.

Starting point is 00:35:23 Kyle, what can we say? Thank you so much for dropping by and lending your expertise in this area, especially when it comes to the Patriots offensive line, the immediate impact it will have on this team this weekend, but most importantly, long-term health of three fan favorites here in New England, Juwan Bentley, Christian Barmore, and, of course, Kendrick Bourne. Before I let you go today, Kyle, please let everyone know where they can reach out to you, where they can absorb your amazing work, both written and verbally,

Starting point is 00:35:50 and in front of the camera on podcasts just like this one. And of course, what they can look forward to in terms of injury coverage within the coming weeks. So once again, Mike, thanks for having me on tonight. I do want to add one additional thing. You know, tracking, even though I'm Billills fan, tracking all the AFC stuff, I have a much greater appreciation for some of the players that I cover, at least watching their injuries and whatnot. So guys like Barmore, Bentley, David Andrews, other guys,

Starting point is 00:36:17 I appreciate the work that they put into giving the best for their teams each and every week. And so when you do see guys go down with injuries like that, it's not even like, oh, that's the enemy. It's like, well, these guys are putting a lot of work on there. They're, you know, taking care of their families. They're playing, they're living out their dreams. So like I feel for them, even though I'm Bill's fan,

Starting point is 00:36:34 cause it's still a human thing and it's an injury. So, you know, I certainly want the best for them regardless of your team affiliation, but you can find all my work at banged up bills.com. I do an AFC East injury preview that comes out every Friday or Saturday, depending on, you know, how the schedule comes out with Thursday games, Mondays and whatnot there. So, you know, if you want to find out socially where you can find me out, I'm on X now Facebook, Reddit,

Starting point is 00:37:00 and then Instagram at banged up bills. If you have any Patriots questions, you know, feel free to reach out. You know, I don't have as much time to dig into Patriots film as much as I want to because family job, the whole nine yards. But if there is something specifically looking for, you want additional information, I will gladly look it up because at the end of the day,

Starting point is 00:37:18 it's an injury that's going to affect your favorite football team. And people want this information and at least want to give them the best information possible. Absolutely. And Kyle is among the best in the business folks he's always our go-to resident when it comes to these matters and we look forward to having him back here on locked on patriots to give an injury update hopefully it's just to give an update on the players that we've discussed and there's no further patriots injuries but you and i both know that's not how the nfl season works it's bound to happen and if it does Kyle is always there to provide great coverage not just for the Patriots folks but always of course for the Bills and the Dolphins and the

Starting point is 00:37:53 Jets all the great work that he does across the AFC East check that out you will not be disappointed and don't forget folks we are not done yet because there is still a preview left before kickoff on Sunday at 415 when your New England Patriots take on the San Francisco 49ers in their quest to return to 500 football. In the meantime, I'm Mike DeBade. And from the bottom of my heart, I thank you all for making us a part of your New England Patriots coverage today. A tip of the cap and a big thanks to my good friend Kyle Trimble for his expertise today. And, of course, don't forget to stay locked in to Locked On Patriots for the very latest on your New England Patriots.

Starting point is 00:38:31 Have a great day, everyone, and we'll see you back here again tomorrow when Locked On Patriots gets you ready for kickoff in week four of the 2024 NFL season.

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