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Starting point is 00:01:32 with me today, as always, is my good friend, my mentor. Basically, whatever label you want to put on this man, put on to him. Anything good, by the way, he's deserving of it. Come on, come on, come on. He is the unquestioned Don of Locked On Patriots.

Starting point is 00:01:50 The kind of Murphy Pistole himself. The legendary Thomas Murphy. And Murph, the Patriots have been busy here on this Wednesday morning, haven't they? Yeah, they have been. They have been. Moves, comings and goings, press conferences, and, and, um, the return of, of a good old friend that, uh, is going to know what coaches ask of him when they ask of him. Absolutely.

Starting point is 00:02:15 Yeah. 12 and five is back on. Well, from your lips to God's ears, Patriots fans are probably either cheering you right now, Murph, or they're rolling their eyes. But one of the two, Virtue is probably going to meet somewhere in the middle because the Patriots may have lost a star rookie cornerback, and we're going to get to that in just

Starting point is 00:02:34 a moment as well, but they filled his spot by bringing in a former All-Pro. And the New England Patriots, folks, reacquiring old friend J.C. Jackson from the Los Angeles Chargers. They got J.C. and a 2025 7-round draft selection for a 2025 sixth-rounder. And despite spending just over a season with the Volts, Jackson, of course, best known for his time here in New England,

Starting point is 00:02:57 a four-year stint that included a Super Bowl championship and, of course, nods as both a pro bowler and an all-pro. Murph, we know the prowess that J.C. Jackson brings to the table, not just as a ball-hawking corner, but also as someone that really developed into a pseudo-lockdown corner in the final year here of his tenure in New England. What should Patriots fans realistically expect from this reunion? That's a great question, Michael.

Starting point is 00:03:27 I want everybody to slow their roll a little bit here. JC did deal with a significant injury while he was out there in San Diego, which has slowed him in just enough of a way that he's vulnerable. He's not the man that left here, at least not yet. I'm not saying that he can't be that guy with further rehabilitation and more time out from surgery, but this is not the JC Jackson of 2020. Yeah, I think that's a very good point and a very strong point to make when it comes to Jackson returning. Look, folks, there are a couple of factors that may be working against a prolific reunion here, and I'm going to get to those in just a moment, but I know there's still a lot of excitement for the New England Patriots right now in bringing back someone like J.C. Jackson. You look at what the Patriots lost in Christian Gonzalez, a solid lockdown corner on the perimeter and an area where the New England Patriots definitely needed an upgrade.

Starting point is 00:04:32 And I think that may have facilitated the Pats hand here or tip their hand in making this move. But ultimately, when you look at J.C. Jackson, there's no question about it. You are getting someone that can handle the load. He's handled the load up here in New England before. 17 regular season games in 2021 is what J.C. Jackson put out there. 44 solo tackles, led the league in 23 passes defense, eight interceptions, returned one of them for a touchdown, and those eight interceptions were the second most in the NFL in 2021

Starting point is 00:05:02 behind Trevon Diggs of the Cowboys, who had 11. Jackson was very handsomely rewarded for his efforts that year, not just monetarily by the Los Angeles Chargers, but he also earned a Pro Bowl nod. He earned a second-team All-Pro. And ultimately, what he did here in New England, 158 total tackles, 53 passes defense and 25 interceptions in four years. So you're wondering whether or not the Patriots got someone that can find the ball and stay in lockstep with his defender.

Starting point is 00:05:35 He can definitely do that. What I think Patriots fans also need to remember here, and I think Murphy hit this right on the head. His time in Los Angeles was riddled with injury and uncertainty and you know the injury is not one that really I think is one to just kind of push back or push by the wingside yeah this was a this was a tough injury for him to go through I mean uh the patella tendon rupturing is not something that's easy to overcome and JC JC alluded to this just a couple of weeks ago, really right up until the time where he was traded, that he's still working his way back to being 100%.

Starting point is 00:06:12 So you're not getting a fresh leg JC Jackson out there right now. You're getting someone that came back from the injury fairly quickly. And that is something that is very good to see. But he's still working his way back to getting where he was and Murph is right on the money you're not getting the 2020-2021 JC Jackson but Murph in the line of what the Patriots are facing it's more than just what you see in an MRI okay it's what you would see on a doctor's couch um people you have to you have to truly believe that you're healed up and that you're ready to

Starting point is 00:06:45 go and that you can make those turns and those cuts and follow those wide receivers in the way that you did before in your head. All right. You have to know that, that, that your body is going to do what you ask it to and, and trust it to do that. And, and that's the most difficult thing in coming back from an injury like this. All the doctors in the world can tell you that you're fine. Yep, go ahead. But you have to be right with it. You have to be right with it in your mind before you can ask your body to do it. And I don't know if JC had been there yet.

Starting point is 00:07:18 I hope, you know, hopefully coming back here to a familiar surrounding, we'll maybe, you know, let something click up there and he will be able to do it. But the bottom line is that you need bodies to be able to go out there. And JC Jackson is somebody that can come in here. And like I said, when the coaches tell him to do something, he's going to know exactly what it is. When he gets a signal from whoever's wearing the green dot, he's going to know exactly what it is. When he gets a signal from whoever's wearing the green dot, he's going to know where to be. That was the most important thing in this deal for the Patriots is they were bringing back that kind of familiarity

Starting point is 00:07:54 and nobody that's going to have to be brought up to speed. Yeah, without question. Knowledge of the system was key in terms of getting these guys acclimated and getting them back on the field. And Murph, we talked about this the other day. The Patriots needed someone in that lockdown cornerback position in order to facilitate what the Patriots ought to do. Man coverage with a single high safety, that is dependent on having a lockdown corner that

Starting point is 00:08:18 can be in lockstep and cover the opposing team's number one receiver. We saw what happened Sunday. Exactly. We saw what happened Sunday exactly we saw absolutely we definitely saw that on Sunday when Christian Gonzalez went down and unfortunately Murph that is a byproduct of what the Patriots are dealing with right now before we get to Christian though I did want to touch very briefly on something else that a lot of Patriots fans I don't know if they're either overlooking or just hasn't been, you know, properly put forth out there. There is another thing working potentially against this, and that is the warrant out for J.C. Jackson's arrest. We

Starting point is 00:08:57 haven't heard that much about this situation, folks. Just to kind of bring you up to speed, Jackson, a little bit of legal trouble in late September. North Attleboro, Massachusetts police issued an arrest warrant after a probation violation, which is stemming from a 2021 arrest for quote unquote criminal speeding. Right. Not mine. But again, the legal situation remains ongoing. You don't know if there's going to be any disciplinary action from the league on this. Does this concern you at all, Murph? No, not really. Call Jack Jones.

Starting point is 00:09:31 He's got the number of a lawyer. Show up at court. Pay your fine. See what happens. We're not talking about jail time here, people. Something happened. He was out on the West Coast. Nobody was here to handle it.

Starting point is 00:09:48 And no, this is not a big concern of mine. Yeah, and I think that in a lot of ways, folks, let the legal proceedings play out. Obviously the Patriots were comfortable enough making this move, knowing full well the information was out there. Chris Mason of MassLive broke the story

Starting point is 00:10:04 about a week ago, so it has been out there. Obviously, the Patriots, you know, did the due diligence when it came to the legal battles here. And I think that move going forward kind of mitigates some of that concern. So once again, Murph, thank you for your wisdom, your counsel, and your level headed approach to all of this. But bottom line, folks, this is the true definition of low risk, high reward. The Patriots definitely getting some help from the Los Angeles Chargers on this. Inexpensive price, but the Patriots and the Chargers reworking the remaining of the $9.3 million in salary that Jackson was owed this season. That's going to absorb about $1.5 million of that. The Volts are going to cover the rest in a signing bonus.

Starting point is 00:10:50 And he's in the second year of his deal, folks, but this is one to very closely monitor. If for any reason this does not work out, J.C. is definitely due some pretty hefty amounts right now on the books, but none of the contract is guaranteed beyond this season. So if the Patriots need to cut him loose, there is no risk. There is no, um, you know, there is no risk on this. Uh, so the Patriots clearly doing their homework and if he performs very well, the Patriots should, and they probably will rework that deal. So you're out on a boat with Charlie Moore and he gives you a lure, you know, it either fishes or you cut bait. Absolutely.

Starting point is 00:11:27 Absolutely, folks. And folks, we are not done yet digging into this one because one of the big reasons why J.C. Jackson is here is because unfortunately, Christian Gonzalez looks like he won't be for the remainder of the season. Murph and I alluded to this on Monday, and this is going to be a tough road ahead for the kid. We're definitely pulling for him, but what does it mean for the Patriots on the field without Christian Gonzalez? What does it mean for him as well? We're going to discuss those and more when this episode of the Locked On Patriots podcast continues, a proud part of the Locked On Podcast Network, your team every day.

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Starting point is 00:13:52 Eligible items only. Exclusions apply. Patriots fans, thank you once again for joining us here today on Locked On Patriots, making us a daily part of your New England Patriots fans thank you once again for joining us here today on Locked On Patriots making us a daily part of your New England Patriots coverage and of course folks here today with the Count of Murphy Fisto himself a legendary Thomas Murphy of E2G Sports talking the acquisition or re-acquisition of JC Jackson and it's a happy reunion for a lot of people in New England I'm sure for the Patriots and for JC as well. He experienced his best years of his career here in New England.

Starting point is 00:14:31 But unfortunately, Murph, it does come with a price. And that price is the season. And like you said, coming into the break here, maybe even perhaps more for Christian Gonzalez being on the shelf, who left, obviously, folks Sunday's game after jamming his shoulder in a tackle attempt. He was confirmed on Wednesday to have suffered a torn shoulder labrum. He's going to have surgery out for the remainder of the season, at the very least, and unfortunately ending what had been a very promising start

Starting point is 00:15:00 to his first season in the NFL. Murph, obviously, this is a tough break. J.C. Jackson's acquisition mitigates this a little bit, but nothing's going to erase the loss of Christian Gonzalez here. This is another tough loss for the Patriots defense. Yeah, it really is. Bill hit a home run with this pick, and of course the rug gets pulled out from under him.

Starting point is 00:15:23 The kid has already been named the defensive rookie of the month. His first month in the season, things were looking up. This defense, for lack of a better, until his injury on Sunday was a top five defense in the NFL. It's just killer. It's just killer. You saw how it sucked the life out of this secondary in this Patriots defense when this kid went down and then Matthew Judon went down after that. And some moves had to be made. One thing that not a lot of people are talking about yet

Starting point is 00:15:57 is the fact that Jack Jones is eligible to come off of IR and he is not going to. He's not coming off of IR. So this is an even more important move for the Patriots to make right now. But what this kid is going through right now, as we talked about on Monday, we didn't know the extent of the injury. We talked about the fact that his shoulder might need to be surgically not repaired, but stabilized because that happens an awful lot with a dislocated shoulder. But now he's looking at an even more extensive procedure and one that, like I said before, you've got to be able to be right in your mind

Starting point is 00:16:45 to go out there and play this game the way it's supposed to be played, which is the way that this young man has played it since he came into the league. And so that's why I'm saying it might take a little bit longer than just the rest of the season. But right now the Patriots needed to make a move not only because of uh of this injury but because you know other guys just are not back yet yeah absolutely and of course you mentioned Jack Jones that's a very good point to make Murph because he is not on the field uh for the New England Patriots just yet uh on Wednesday's practice they did have three returns folks

Starting point is 00:17:24 offensive tackle Riley Rafe back at practice. Defensive end Trey Flowers back at practice as well. And safety slash special teamer Cody Davis, their 21-day windows have opened, but still no Tyquan Thornton yet. And of course, no Jack Jones, which ultimately comes back to the urgency that the Patriots felt to bring JC Jackson in here. But you mentioned Gonzalez and you mentioned what he's bringing to the table in just three games. And I guess you can give him the quarter against Dallas. 17 total tackles, three passes, defense, one interception.

Starting point is 00:17:57 And that week one sack of Jalen, excuse me, Philadelphia Eagles quarterback Jalen Hur hurts on a corner blitz which was a lot of fun to watch uh perhaps most importantly though is what he was doing against some of the league's top receivers only allowing 11 catches on 20 targets for 124 yards and zero touchdowns when you think about the names christian gonzalez was matched up against, A.J. Brown, Devonta Smith, Tyreek Hill, Jalen Waddell, C.D. Lamb, just, you know, over and over, Garrett Williams. There is a reason why this kid is going to be so missed in this lineup. And once again, Bill Belichick saying when he went down,

Starting point is 00:18:38 the Patriots had to adjust their system. Right. All pro J.C. Jackson is not replacing this kid. He's not filling those shoes. That's how good he is. This kid is going to be solely, solely missed. He was definitely deserving of being picked where he was. I thought he was the best cornerback in last year's draft. I thought for sure he was going to be a top 10 pick and people are going to point out that his size and his build were one of

Starting point is 00:19:12 the reasons that he slipped. And the people, you know, that talk between two and six in the afternoon are just going to say, here's another skinny guy that just couldn't hack it that Bill had to have. Well, I think what he's proven on the field is definitely mitigating any concerns regarding his size. And folks, the one thing about a tear or a shoulder injury like this is you can come back at full strength. It takes a while. It is difficult. But when he does return to the field, he will return to the field at full strength, probably with a little extra bulk on him as well, because I know that's going to be something that I think Patriots trainers

Starting point is 00:19:46 and I think Christian himself are going to want to address. But ultimately, in the meantime, you want to make sure that this kid is fully healed. You want to make sure that he is fully ready when he steps back on a football field. And that's why he's facing such a difficult and long road ahead to getting back. But we wish him the unquestionable best. And we hope to see him out on the field as soon as possible. And speaking of as soon as possible, for any Patriots fans that are hoping to see JC out there right away this week, as a matter of fact, I think that's probably rushing things

Starting point is 00:20:18 a little bit. Folks, it's possible, and I'm not going to say there's no chance, but I think the chances of him sitting out this week and maybe getting the nut in week six are much greater. The Patriots had to shuffle things a little bit. Miles Bryant, Sean Wade shifted to the outside against the Dallas Cowboys and the Patriots deploying those three safety groupings. Jalen Mills coming in, spending some time in the slot. My anticipation is that that's how they're going to attack things this week. Murph, do you think there's a chance we see JC or are we looking at more of the same when it comes to what the Pats can bring out there on the field?

Starting point is 00:20:53 There's a chance, but I mean, there's a bigger chance that Miles Bryant gives his number back to JC. I don't see that happening. There's a slight chance that'll happen, but I wouldn't count on it, folks. They're going to have to paste something together, MacGyver something together back there. And hopefully, you know, some of the Joneses are back and we can, you know, take care of business against Derek Carr once again. Yeah, folks, if you heard me mention Isle of Denial in our opening today, tried to coin the phrase a couple of years ago

Starting point is 00:21:30 when JC had his big time season in terms of being a lockdown corner, which he self-professed. He wanted to be known more as a lockdown corner and credit to him, he stepped up and he developed a lot of those traits. I wrote an article for Sports Illustrated a couple of years ago saying that Mr.

Starting point is 00:21:45 I.N.T. would have his Isle of Denial. Anyone thinking that New Orleans' Chris Olave is going to be put on that isle this week? Yeah, I'd probably wait a week on this one, folks. But ultimately, if the Pats do have to go with Miles and Sean and Jalen as that three-headed triumvirate in that backfield, that's probably what you're looking for. And Murph, that leads us quite nicely into, we're going to wrap today's show up and taking our first early look at the New Orleans Saints

Starting point is 00:22:14 who are coming in here for a week five matchup. The Saints are two and two. They have their offensive woes, but that defense can get after you in a hurry. Murph and I are going to discuss our early thoughts on New Orleans when this episode of the Lockdown Patriots podcast continues. Of course, folks, a proud part of the Lockdown Podcast Network, your team. Lockdown Patriots is brought to you by BetterHelp.

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Starting point is 00:23:54 That's been the theme of the week. Of course, the injuries to Matthew Judon, Christian Gonzalez. Devastating injuries. We talked a lot about Judon on Monday. Talked a lot about Christian today, but now it's all about the players on the field. Mack Jones needing to lead his team into battle against the 2-2 New Orleans Saints right here at Gillette Stadium at 1 p.m. on Sunday. Mervyn, when you

Starting point is 00:24:16 look at this Saints team, obviously Derek Carr under center. They've got a lot of offensive talent with Chris Olave we talked about in the previous segment. Michael Thomas, obviously, is someone still to be reckoned with. Alvin Kamara is someone that can get you yards on the ground. But this offense has struggled. And their defense really has been what has carried them up until this point. When you look at this New Orleans team, what are your early thoughts on them? And what do you expect the New England Patriots to do to counter what they do best? Take Alvin Kamara away from Derek Carr.

Starting point is 00:24:57 Take him away from Derek Carr. And meaning that is not allowing Kamara to set a tone where Carr is going to be able to exploit the Patriots' defensive backfield with these receivers. He still has some very good wide receivers. They just have not put it all together yet. So, yeah, that's the thing that early on I want to focus on. Kamara came back last week, had a decent week. I think he carried the ball 10 times for 50 yards or something like that. And he's only going to get better.

Starting point is 00:25:34 And also what he can do out of the backfield in catching the ball and being there as a safety valve for Carr. I think that is where the Patriots defense needs to focus and shut down New Orleans and trying to stay in this game early. On the defensive side of the ball, it's the edges. It's what they're able to do coming off the edges that really worries me. Those off-ball linebackers too. But Cam Jordan is no joke. Carl Granderson is a fantastic performer. Even at age 34, Cameron Jordan is somebody that you need to pay attention to on each and every snap. And as we know, the Patriots have not been very solid at the tackle

Starting point is 00:26:20 position, especially on the right-hand side this year. Yeah, without question. Very, very good point. And to reiterate, and I think to maybe compliment what you do in terms of what I'm looking at with the Saints, is are the Patriots going to be able to attack their run defense? Can they get their run game going? You look at the statistics and New Orleans comes across as being a very good team against stopping the run. They're 11th in the league. They allow 103.3 yards per game on the ground. But where they are vulnerable is in the carry. That's where you can start to give them a little bit of problems. They're averaging 4.1 yards against per carry.

Starting point is 00:26:58 That makes them 16th in the NFL, which is run of the mill. If the Patriots can utilize blocking up front and get some solid run blocking from the offensive line with Farrow Brown, maybe taking a few run snaps himself, maybe even Ezekiel Elliott acting as a run blocker. I know he's best in pass protection, but get a little inventive this week, folks. That means that Ramondre and then Zeke, of course, can get on track. They can start to move the ball.

Starting point is 00:27:24 Yeah, yeah, exactly. and then Zeke, of course, can get on track. They can start to move the ball. Yeah, exactly. I mean, you know, use a fullback this week, folks, if you need to, because getting that run game going is going to be so key to New England finding success against the Saints defense. Mac needs to utilize the short, the intermediate areas of the field,

Starting point is 00:27:40 get those passes, draw the defense in, lead your receivers under it, and then mac could start to get to work by getting his guys yards after the catch and putting it in position where they can get yards after the catch sounds simple murph but it hasn't been easy for the patriots to do it has not been it has not been i am um wholeheartedly upset with mac jones right now after a second and third watch of that last game in Dallas. Um, I love the pick of Mac Jones. I'm still on, uh, on the, on the sunny side of the Mac Jones street. Um, but he was brought here as the guy that, that was not going to win you games. What

Starting point is 00:28:20 wasn't going to lose you games. And if you go back and you look at the Patriots losses this year and going back into last year, you know, it's he has been a part of the problem. OK, he is he is he has been he has not been who he was advertised as who he was at Alabama or even in his rookie season that he wasn't the guy that lost you games. And that's what I need from him this week, you know, is to go out there, have a solid performance. You know, I don't want to, we can't, this team is not talented enough to dig its way out of holes that they dig

Starting point is 00:28:55 themselves. Right. Very good point. And I know a couple of people had commented in the YouTube section below that not being built to come from behind about basically about teams being built for coming from behind. And I understand the squeamishness or the uneasiness about that statement, but folks, what that means essentially is that New England Patriots are not deep enough at positions of skill at the trench positions to be able to withstand the injuries

Starting point is 00:29:23 they've had and to be able to rely on people to help them come back to rely on those players their depth positions their middle the middle class is not as um as next man up as it has been in the past it really isn't and that's that's across the the entire league folks that's not just here in new england yeah you're not able to bring guys in off the bench you're not able to pull up on your depth positions when your starters essentially maybe are struggling or don't have it. That's being built to come from behind. It's not what you do with the drives. The drives are independent, and you're absolutely right on that, whether it's offense or defense. But when you have depth, yes, you can pull upon that a little bit

Starting point is 00:30:04 more to be able to pull yourself out of some of the deficits that you had of course in years past it helped when you had number 12 under center the patriots don't have that but the obvious situation there is pulling upon some of your bench players some of your depth players along positions of need to be able to pull you out of it and i think you hit the nail perfectly on the head, Murph. It's about Mac Jones needing accountability, needing to take a look at what he's done. And it's also about play calling and play scheming. Exactly. And it's also about play calling and play scheming. And that's exactly what Bill O'Brien talked about earlier this week. Yes, Mac's got to make better decisions. That's on him. But we also need to scheme situations better in order to put him in a position where he's able to succeed.

Starting point is 00:30:47 Turn a key or two. Exactly. You want Mac Jones in that position, folks, that allows him not to lose you games and puts him in a position of authority. Maybe the New England Patriots take that to heart this week. We all hope so. And we all hope that is indeed the case. Murph, what can I say? I appreciate you stopping by, lending your wisdom and counsel the way only you can, my friend. Before I let you go, please let everyone know where they can reach out to you,

Starting point is 00:31:15 where they can tell you what's on their mind, and what we can look forward to coming from the great voice of Thomas Murphy for the remainder of the week. Well, you know, of course you can follow me on the Bird app at TeamMurph207. I am not doing a write-up about the return of J.C. Jackson. I'm just too focused on baseball right now. I have some baseball pieces out. And, of course, my keys will be out on Friday. Absolutely, folks. And if you're looking for a write-up on J.C. Jackson,

Starting point is 00:31:42 you can always go ahead and check out si.com slash NFL slash Patriots. You can find my response to that this year. But if you're talking anything else in this world, you definitely want to take a look at what Murph is doing at e2gsports.com. I recommend everything the man puts his name to because it's top-notch work, whether it be Red Sox, Patriots, and of course, folks, those monster keys, which I got a very sneaking suspicion we're going to turn later in the week. So keep a sharp eye out for that. But in the meantime, I want to thank you, my friend, for being there for the handoff and for lending your wisdom, counsel, and reason on the JC Jackson trade.

Starting point is 00:32:17 And of course, folks, all of you locked on every day is out there for spending time with us each and every day here on Locked On Patriots and making us a part of your daily Patriots coverage. On behalf of my good friend, the counter Murphy Fisto himself, the legendary Thomas Murphy, I'm Mike DeBate reminding you to stay safe, stay well, and to be the change you wish to see in the world and to tune in here tomorrow when my good friend and fearless leader here at Locked On Patriots, Ross Jackson, joins me to cross the streams as the Patriots and the Saints lock horns. This Sunday is going to be a fun one when Ross drops by,

Starting point is 00:32:55 one of the best in the business at what he does. I can't wait for it, and I know you're all going to be looking forward to it as well. So stay locked in to Locked On Patriots. And, folks, definitely keep it here. We'll be back with you again tomorrow right here on the pod. Until then, folks, thank you for joining us here today on Locked on Patriots. More fullbacks. That's what I want.

Starting point is 00:33:16 More fullbacks. More fullbacks. More fullbacks.

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