Locked On Patriots - Daily Podcast On The New England Patriots - NFL Squad: How Myles Garrett, Cooper Kupp Trades Could Impact The NFL, Super Bowl 59 Predictions
Episode Date: February 6, 2025In this week's NFL Squad, the crew discusses how potential Myles Garrett and Cooper Kupp trades could impact the landscape of the NFL. Plus, they also share their Super Bowl 59 Predictions and discuss... who they think will take home Super Bowl MVP honors.Support Us By Supporting Our Sponsors!BetterhelpDiscover your relationship “green flags” with BetterHelp. Visit betterhelp.com/lockedon today to get 10% off your first month. LinkedInLinkedIn Jobs helps you find the qualified candidates you want to talk to, faster. Post your job for free at LinkedIn.com/LOCKEDONNFL. Terms and conditions apply.PrizePicksDownload the app and use code lockedonnfl to win $50 instantly when you play $5. You don't even need to win to receive your $50 bonus, it's guaranteed! Prizepicks. Run Your Game.Click Here: https://prizepicks.onelink.me/LME0/LOCKEDONNFLGametimeDownload the Gametime app, create an account, and use code LOCKEDONNFL for $20 off your first purchase. Terms Apply. Download Gametime today. What time is it? Gametime.FanDuelSuper Bowl 59 is here, And there’s no better way to make every play more exciting than with FanDuel Sportsbook. New customers can bet just FIVE DOLLARS, and if you win, you’ll score TWO HUNDRED BUCKS in Bonus Bets. Download the app or head to FANDUEL.COM to get started. Bet with FanDuel—Official Partner of Super Bowl Fifty-Nine. FANDUEL DISCLAIMER: 21+ in select states. First online real money wager only. Bonus issued as nonwithdrawable free bets that expires in 14 days. Restrictions apply. See terms at sportsbook.fanduel.com. Gambling Problem? Call 1-800-GAMBLER or visit FanDuel.com/RG (CO, IA, MD, MI, NJ, PA, IL, VA, WV), 1-800-NEXT-STEP or text NEXTSTEP to 53342 (AZ), 1-888-789-7777 or visit ccpg.org/chat (CT), 1-800-9-WITH-IT (IN), 1-800-522-4700 (WY, KS) or visit ksgamblinghelp.com (KS), 1-877-770-STOP (LA), 1-877-8-HOPENY or text HOPENY (467369) (NY), TN REDLINE 1-800-889-9789 (TN)
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Miles Garrett and Cooper Cupp are on the trading table,
but who really wants them?
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Gentlemen, I appreciate all of you coming through.
And obviously the main story this week is, of course, the Super Bowl.
But the main story that's being talked about while we wait for the main story to arrive is Miles Garrett.
Spencer German, let's start with you, host of Locked On Browns.
I, for one, am a fan of your take.
But what does this mean for Miles?
What does this mean for the Cleveland Browns?
You know, it's funny.
I know a couple of you guys are down in new orleans for the super bowl but i i felt like this was the
closest the browns at fans have probably ever felt to like dominating super bowl week like oh the
browns they've never actually come this close to actually playing in it um so it's really for all
the wrong reasons but um yeah you know i i i've kind of been in the camp of as long as miles
garrett wants to be part of this thing,
I think you do sort of try to thread the needle on staying competitive, not ripping it down to the studs.
But as soon as this trade request comes out and it's like, hey, I want out.
I don't want to be part of this anymore.
I think that kind of provides the clarity that you're looking for if you're the Browns for like,
you don't have to operate in this limbo of are we a team that's close to contending or are we a team that needs to start all over?
I think this kind of just tells you, yeah, rip off the Band-Aid
and accumulate as many draft picks as possible
and start worrying about the draft in 2025 and 2026
and getting this thing back on track as soon as you can.
Yeah, and I think there's some conversations being had about this
where some people think this is yet another demand to be traded because I actually
just want to be paid a lot of money.
Kevin Ostreicher, Locked on Ravens. I want to get
your thoughts on that because, man, when I look
at this, not only did Miles come out
and say, I want to be traded. He said, I want
to go win a championship, which I don't think there's a lot
of people here that think the Cleveland Browns
in their current construction are on the cusp
of winning a championship, but also
he used the GM's own Cleveland to Canton against him in his
statement.
To me,
that,
that kind of indicates that this is not about money.
What are your thoughts?
No,
I completely agree.
And usually when we do see situations like this,
I mean,
I went through this a couple of years ago over on lockdown Ravens with
Lamar Jackson,
where Lamar ended up putting a trade request on social media.
Obviously that was due to a contract.
And we see a lot of these situations where it's like, okay, I'm going to use this as
leverage so that I can get more money from a team.
This clearly is not the motivation here for Miles Garrett.
And with this coming out and everything of that sort, it's almost like with Cleveland.
Well, now you don't trade him at this point.
Is he just going to leave when his contract is up and you get that third round comp pick i mean this could be a generational haul for the cleveland
browns that really spencer as you said like this forces them to choose a direction which i don't
think is the worst thing in the world for an organization that's been in limbo about like okay
we made the deshaun watson move it was a huge failure on multiple fronts now we have to kind
of pivot away but how far do we pivot away if If they move off of Myles Garrett, it gives them a reason to say, all right, let's just
use this top five pick we have on a player that we know can be good for our future,
but it doesn't have to be the situation where you have to rush that guy into a huge situation
early. I think that it's not great to lose a franchise defining player like this and have it
kind of go the way that it has, because as you mentioned, David, with, uh, with the whole,
that's the Mavericks. Yeah. That's all another situation where it seems to me,
that trade feels like it was like months ago for me. I know, right? No, I can't even tell you,
but I want to Spencer. It's interesting with that whole Luca thing. And now with this Cleveland thing, both sides,
Dallas fans and Cleveland fans, you know,
the whole trade thing with Luca comes out and all these Dallas fans are
sad.
Side him with the side and with the Lakers, like, okay.
With Cleveland,
it feels like miles Garrett has the straight request and Cleveland fans
are like, yeah, okay.
We don't really blame you.
Like it, it, it makes sense based off what the right.
Is that kind of the mood right now?
Yeah, no, I mean, there was, there was actually a new story done this morning on like a group of We don't really blame you. It makes sense based off what they're writing. Is that kind of the mood right now? Yeah.
No, I mean, there was actually a news story done this morning on a group of people who gather around the stadium.
I think it was yesterday after the request came out, or maybe it was this morning.
Either way.
And they were all wearing Miles Garrett jerseys, and they were burning Deshaun Watson jerseys because they were like, this is where we're at.
Which is funny because Cleveland has a history of burning jerseys of the player that like leaves a you know LeBron James right
thing at one point in time but they were not burning the the jersey of the player that's
leaving potentially they were burning the jersey of the guy who came here um but yeah it's it's
none of the fans that I've I've heard from or like any of the reactions I've seen none of them
are like blaming Myles Garrett for this they all all kind of understand where he's coming from,
and they understand the organization are the ones that kind of dropped the ball
here and failed him and have been wasting, obviously, his prime years.
And I agree with you too, Kevin.
Like, you know, I think Myles Garrett,
if this was only about the contract dispute,
I think he could have left it at what he said leading into week 16,
where he was basically like, yeah, you know, I want to be a Brown,
but I thought about playing somewhere else.
If our goals don't align at the end of the offseason,
when would you have those conversations?
And so that was to me kind of like the, okay,
you got to get him a new contract and kind of put this to bed.
This is like an escalation.
This is like I'm going out with a public statement and saying,
I want to win.
I want to go to a contender.
And so that's why I think it's different, like you alluded to.
Yeah, and Ross Jackson locked on saying the last question on this topic
really is a two-parter.
So, one, given everything we talked about and Spencer's idea
that you've got to strip this thing down, you know,
I know at least one fan base in the nation's capital wants to involve a player
in a potential trade by the name of John Allen.
Send John Allen to Cleveland along with a pick or two or three
or whatever it's going to take to bring Myles Garrett.
But if you're stripping this thing down to the nuts and bolts,
I don't think you want to bring on a 30-plus-year-old defense tackle.
So what approach do you think the Cleveland Browns need to take
when seeking out this trade that they're not apparently going to seek out,
but they're going to seek out?
And do you have a top team in mind that you think if you're miles Garrett and
your goal is winning a championship that you want to land on?
Yeah. I mean,
I think you're about to watch a pair of them this weekend, right?
I mean,
if there's the opportunity to land on one of the two teams that's been in the
super bowl at least twice in the last three years,
and those are the ones that you're probably looking to prioritize,
but there's going to be a lot of opportunities for him to potentially find places to land on a contender
but we've seen this over and over again in the nfl as well i mean we watched gerald mccoy leave and
say he wanted to go to a contender and he signed with the carolina panthers like we see this kind
of stuff all the time where people will say oh yeah we want to go to a contender we want to do
this and then they sign with some middling team somewhere or they get traded to some middle
somewhere so the biggest thing is going to be if he ends up getting traded, Miles Garrett,
are the Cleveland Browns incentivized in any way to do him any favors in terms of saying like,
yeah, okay, you push yourself out. We're going to send you somewhere where you're going to be
able to win. Do they really want to do that? Unless he has a no trade clause or anything,
which Spencer would know. I don't know if he does.
No, he does not. No, no. Yeah. So, so the team kind of has all the leverage here. And this is one of the reasons why we see a lot of trade requests never actually come to fruition is
because teams are going to take the best value. And I think that to your first question, what is
it that the Cleveland Browns need to do? They need to not feel like they owe Miles Garrett anything.
And they need to take, if they do decide to to move them take a deal that's going to give them exactly what Spencer
said the draft picks that they want all those other pieces they need to be able to land the
draft capital the future whatever it is uh that allows them to be able to embrace where they are
right now but have the building blocks to rebuild in the future so I would do Miles Garrett no
favors uh and I would do myself every favor that i can and take the best trade offer that's out there and by that trade into
the baltimore ravens in the division just want to know i thought i said that
but like i'm sending them to like a team that feels like they have their quarterback already
but might not but then
is willing to say you know what we got the quarterback and that quarterback's on a rookie
contract and so we have the opportunity to be able to send some stuff so a detroit spot or like a uh
new england or something like that like that's where i'm sitting i'm not worried about sending
him to a contender yeah absolutely um right now i'm worried about everybody welcoming Tony Wiggins to the squad show.
Speaking of not contending.
Yeah, you know what?
That's like one elephant telling the other one he stinks.
You know what I'm saying?
So it's great timing.
Oh, my God.
It was great timing because Wigg and I actually just got done recording the Wednesday afternoon episode of Locked on NFL, where we talked a little bit about Miles Garrett, but we also talked about Cooper Cup.
And we're going to talk more about Cooper Cup here on this week's episode of NFL Squad, part of the Locked on Podcast Network, your team every day.
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Rolling forward now, this week's episode of NFL Squad,
and we're talking about the biggest storylines of the week,
which, of course, are not surrounding the Super Bowl
because there's a reason that the
NFL is a 24-7
business. There's always something going
on. Our group of squad
mates here today mentioned the trade
in the NBA from
including Dallas and Los Angeles, but there's another trade
coming out of Los Angeles or involving
Los Angeles where Wider Seer Cooper Cup
is reportedly going to be
shipped off fairly soon.
And that report coming from a Cooper cup himself took to social media and
say,
the Rams have told me they're looking to trade me immediately.
I think that's,
that's kind of where I want to start here.
Actually.
I want to start Cody Rourke locked on Broncos that,
that word,
like,
like to me,
that word kind of stood out.
Is there,
I don't know.
Am I making too much of that word being in that part
of that process um and what did you think of the overall statement and some of the you know i love
la i've always wanted to be here i was thinking in the end but by the way i'm coming for all of it
like uh bringing all the smoke to you i love that i mean cooper cup when you look at him this is a
guy who's been underestimated his whole story like you know really scra, really scrawny in high school, put in a lot of work,
you know, goes and plays at Eastern Washington.
All of a sudden, you know,
writes a historic career for himself here in the national football league.
I mean, just a few years ago, he had 145 catches on 197 targets.
You want to talk about volume?
Man, I'm sure he was every fancy football player's wet dream a few years ago
there, right?
For me, I look at it.
Brought to you by him. I don't know what the hell y'all got going right? For me, I look at it. Brought to you by him.
I don't know what the hell y'all got going on there.
See, I might leave now.
I might get out of here now, man.
The next thing, somebody's going to pull out a bottle of baby oil.
I ain't got time for all that foolishness.
That was such a crazy drop.
I love it.
I tell you that.
Honestly, Cody, I love that you powered through, too.
You just said it, and you just kept going.
You thought we were going to get away with that?
No.
I got something on Bruin here as it pertains to the Broncos and Cooper Cup.
Don't worry.
I ain't finished yet.
But the number one thing about Cooper Cup is that like this is a guy who,
okay, yes, he's had, you know,
the latest injury he's been really dealing with has been high ankle sprains.
I look at, you know at situational components there.
Okay, you play in turf, you play indoors.
That factors in.
What is your training staff, strength and conditioning staff like?
Cooper Cupp can go to another environment and easily thrive,
and he's still got a lot to put in the tank.
Look, is he going to be a number one receiver for a lot of teams at this point?
I think he's not.
A team that is looking for another reliable option,
that could definitely be the case here.
I think Denver is a team to consider here because of the fact
that Horton Sutton's on the final year of his deal in 2025.
But he also just adds another dynamic where Denver,
if you watch that playoff game against Buffalo,
they had a lot of drops by their receivers.
Cooper Cupp's a sure-handed guy.
He's reliable.
He's a chain mover.
He could be exactly what a quarterback like Bo Nix needs.
Or even Jaden Daniels in Washington could use a guy like him
opposite of Terry McLaurin.
I mean, there's so many different fits and pieces for Cooper to go.
I love the mentality.
Cooper Cup has given so much to LA.
I think LA's approaching a rebuild.
It kind of feels like that based on where things are heading
if they're going to offset one of their top receivers.
Yeah.
Aaron Freeman, Locked On Falcons.
I want to ask you the part that the biggest hang-up for me, there are some commanders fans who are kind of like Cody's rallying for maybe the Broncos to make this move. There are some commanders fans who are curious and interested in the commanders getting in that conversation and adding Cooper Cup to Terry McLaurin and Luke McCaffrey and then seeing where this whole thing goes from there. My hang up there, man, is the $20 million salary cap that you're adding to your
roster if you make this trade right now. And then it's like 22 plus million the next year. And I
know that there's ways to tack on more years and void years and all this other stuff and turn
bonuses or base salary into bonuses and stretch it out. But at the end of the day, man, you're
still looking at a $40 million price tag for Cooper Cup at this stage in his career.
If you felt like as a GM, that's a steep price tag to pay, but this dude might help us get over the top.
Do you think that a GM should take that offer or take that chance if you're talking about a day three pick in exchange?
Yeah, I think so.
I think if you're a team in that position, you know, I think the big concerns you're talking about is the money that you're paying Cooper Cup, as well as the age and injury history.
And, you know, you could probably go into next season thinking, oh, well, we might only get like 12 games out of Cooper Cup based off of the last couple of years.
But the 12 games you're going to get from Cooper Cup are going to be 12 very valuable games, especially if you're a team that's looking for sort of that complimentary number two wide receiver that can do all the kind
of dirty work that Cooper Cup has been known to do. And so I think for, you know, probably several
teams that won't be playing this weekend, but, you know, teams that are looking for that last
little push over the hump and looking for another playmaker and feeling like, hey, you know, we got
a window that is not necessarily, you know necessarily the next five years or something like that,
and it's really just one or two years.
I think it's worthwhile to make that trade and make that investment and be willing to
pay that premium in salary cap dollars when you can sort of undercut that a little bit
with draft capital, where if I'm only giving up a fifth round pick for Cooper Cup, yeah,
I don't mind paying $20 million in salary cap at this stage.
Because, you know,
the salary cap is a lie, baby.
It's supposed to be 0.5.
The Rams are supposed to eat some of his
stuff they sell.
So there you go. It's one of those things where
that makes it a little bit easier.
And none of his salary
in 2026 is guaranteed.
It's all non-guaranteed.
So, yeah, there's a lot of ways to work these numbers.
Ross Jackson is very familiar with teams trying to work.
The cap's a lot, baby.
Browns, too.
Browns, too.
We know.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Spencer and I can give you all a master class if you want to.
I could talk to you about void years for the next hour.
Ed Cap, look, all three of us right now are in a great position.
We all relate to that.
I want to see Ross and them work that out this year, though.
I know you're talking about the cap ain't real.
Okay.
It's going to be easy.
They'll restructure five young guys and then be under the salary cap ready to spend money.
We've been down this road already. $52 million over the salary cap in New Orleans to Small Potatoes
when they were $111 million a couple
years ago and signed a $40 million a year
quarterback in the same offseason.
They'll figure it out.
Mike the Baitlocks on Patriots.
We have all this conversation about Cooper Cup and it's worth
the risk and you can work the numbers so you
shouldn't be scared away by them.
Who in the NFL in your mind
is the team that needs to take that
roll of the dice and bring him in? Well, if you wanted me to be a homer, I'm going to say the New
England Patriots. I think right now they are the team that has the cap space available. They don't
have to do any kind of creative work to the cap to be able to work those numbers in. $120 million
in excess is what they're going to be working with. So they can automatically bring him in.
Now, I know there's concerns about his injuries,
and I know that he's played 12 games the last couple of seasons
and then nine the game before that.
But if you also look at the Patriots conditioning staff,
the way Cody and Ross may have mentioned that earlier,
bringing him in, allowing him to grow with a young quarterback like Drake May,
and also I think it's worth mentioning that he is perfectly suited to work for Josh
McDaniels in that offense. If he's not going to be working with Sean McVay, Josh McDaniels is the
ideal offensive coordinator to be able to maximize what Cooper Cup can do well. So the only question
is, is Cooper going to want to come to New England? Is he going to want to spend a year or possibly
even two helping this team build?
Because they're still a long ways away. The Patriots are not one player or two players away
from automatically contending. Stranger things have always happened. I mean, anything can happen
in a year in the NFL, but the Patriots need a lot of work. Is Cooper going to be able to
use that time wisely and build with a young quarterback. If he's willing to do it,
Patriots absolutely have to make this call and try to make this happen.
If he's not,
it takes them out of the running before they even get off the ground.
Cooper cup is Julian Edelman,
Chris Hogan,
and Danny Amendola in a taller body combined.
So did he play across?
Did he play across?
Ooh,
great question.
That's a great point.
Spencer,
this is a really weird position for me to be in the Patriots leading the league and all this cap space. Did he play college lacrosse? He turns them into superstars. Now, the Patriots, if they're going to bring in Cooper Cup,
they're going to have to pay.
And they're going to have to maybe overpay in that regard.
They also have a good amount of draft capital.
So that's something to consider.
But do the Patriots overinvest in draft capital when they really need a lot of those draft picks to be able to rebuild?
That's going to be the big task of the Patriots' front office right now.
Guys like Elliott Wolfe and Ryan Cowden coming in,
helping out Mike Rabel.
They've got a lot of decisions to make in that front office.
All right.
So what I'm hearing is Cooper Cup to New England,
and Miles Garrett's either Philadelphia or Kansas City.
Oh, no.
Or Baltimore.
Either of those teams can make that move.
They've got to handle their business on Sunday,
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Super Bowl 59, right around the
corner. Philadelphia Eagles, Kansas City Chiefs
duking it out. It's the matchup
you all wanted. It's the matchup you all asked
for. It's the matchup the entire
country voted to want to see.
Yes, Cody Rourke, I'm joking.
The Chiefs are favored by one and a half points
to beat the Philadelphia Eagles in the big game.
The over-under is 48.5 points.
And we're going to hit a couple of prop bets,
and then we're going to hit some predictions.
Tony Williams locked on Jags.
I want to ask you this.
Either team to get seven or more sacks in this game, plus 7,500 odds on Fandle.
What do you think?
No, I don't think anybody's going to get those kind of sacks because both quarterbacks, you might have them and then they run away from you.
So there's no way I'm not.
I'm going to bet that somebody's going to get sacks on guys that aren't statues.
I don't believe that's going to get sacks on guys that aren't statues. I don't believe that's going to happen.
I think it's going to be a limited possession game
because I think Philadelphia is going to make sure, and therefore –
and you know what?
Kansas City, they realize their limitations on their offensive line.
They're not going to sit back there all day because they know they can't do it.
They've been getting that ball out of their hands real quick,
and Mahomes is like Houdini.
So, yeah, I'm going to go against that seven and a half.
All right.
We've got – it's funny, actually, because we're in the media workroom
here in New Orleans, and this is what the actual – if you can see this,
this is what the actual media workroom looks like.
Ross Jackson.
Yes, this is the actual video.
You have a good view of some guy sitting there waving his hands like an idiot.
The game on the television, though,
is the Super Bowl that was dueled out between Nick Foles and Tom Brady.
So this is a great prop bet for this moment.
Either quarterback to record a catch in this game from another player,
plus 1,400 since Cody and Spencer are cheating and answering,
and now so is Kevin.
I'm going to go to Aaron Freeman.
Lockdown Falcons, what's your answer on that prop bet?
Sure, let's go for it.
Let's get a Philly special.
Devontae Smith to Jalen Hurts, let's do it.
I like it.
Yeah, plus 1,400, that's worth those odds to take the yes,
to take the over on that one.
It's worth it to take it, but isn't the Philly special now just the tush push?
Isn't that just what the Philly special is?
That's their signature play at this point.
They don't want all that gimmicky stuff.
They just get behind the center and plow ahead with the corner.
You know, does it require much skill, they say these days, apparently, to do that.
The Philly not-so-special, I guess you could call it.
I don't know.
Where's Peter Bukowski when you need him?
Come on, Mark Murphy.
Paul, just talk about the Philly special, guys.
I'm sorry.
I'm not familiar with that term.
I've completely blocked it.
Yeah, Mike's like, I think I'm breaking up.
My internet's not working.
Yeah, it's unfortunate.
Sorry, guys.
Mike, we'll stick with you there, buddy.
I want to ask you, Patrick Mahomes, Jalen Hurts,
two starting quarterbacks in this game,
combining for six-plus passing and receiving touchdowns since we're going to throw that in there plus 320 odds which
I feel like it should be actually a little bit higher but what do you what do you think what do
you think about that possibility it's tough to say because both of these teams are coming in here
have to be having in my opinion been carried on their defense for a good amount of the year but
you know these games always feature an amazing amount of offense.
I'm going to say, yeah, I'm going to say that these two quarterbacks come out and they show out.
I think Patrick Mahomes understands the gravity of this game.
He's been there before. He's done that.
I've seen this so many times before with Tom Brady where people would say he's going to come in
and he's not going to have a game and he'll go out and he'll give you the game of his life.
I think Patrick is ready to do that. And I think Jalen is up to the task too.
So I'm looking forward to seeing some offense on Sunday.
Yeah, I'm going to say yes, I do believe that they'll make that.
All right, Cody Roark, Logs on Broncos,
the most anticipated Super Bowl matchup of this weekend.
Who do you have winning, and who is your MVP prediction?
Yeah, I'm going to go with Philadelphia.
I have the Eagles winning this one.
I think it's going to be a close game.
I think it's really going to come down to the final two minutes here.
I got Saquon Barkley winning MVP because, you know,
you go back to their first matchup they had a couple of years ago.
Jalen Hurts played incredible in that game.
And, you know, I think Jalen's going to be a big part of this game plan.
But what they didn't have then that they have now is they have a Saquon Barkley
who has just been on an incredible tear.
And look, the guy just got engaged, so there's some extra mojo
behind what he's got going on, has a chance to get two rings here this week.
And for him to go from the New York Giants to the Philadelphia Eagles
and to see this type of success, it's a great story for the NFL,
and it paints a bigger picture as to, hey, maybe if you need to change environments, it's not necessarily a bad thing.
We're just talking about Miles Garrett, Cooper Cup.
It could work out for these guys if they end up elsewhere also.
So I've got Saquon winning.
I think he's going to have three rushing touchdowns in this game,
and he's going to obviously take home the MVP as the Eagles win the Super Bowl.
Locked on, Kellen Moore, host Ross Jackson, New Orleans native.
Do the New Orleans Saints get to hire a Super Bowl winning offensive coordinator
this weekend, or well, not this weekend, but Monday morning?
No, I think it's going to be the Kansas City Chiefs.
They're going to get this.
Three-peat, I think it's going to happen.
I'll be very excited to see it.
I think that's the way that I'm going to go with it.
But I will say this, New Orleans should win the Super Bowl
at least once every five years because we just do it better than everybody else.
That's all.
Well, we'll go from that to a franchise that unfortunately doesn't know what that's like.
Spencer German, locked on Browns.
I need your prediction and MVP Canada as well.
Yeah, so my heart tells me to go with the Eagles.
That's who I want to see win.
But I picked against the Chiefs in the AFC Championship game,
and I don't make the same mistake twice in a row.
So for some reason, that team just always –
I mean, honestly, Mike, you're very familiar with this.
Everybody tried so hard to write off Brady and the Patriots.
They wanted to be the first one to take of like,
this is the year they fall off and they don't get it done.
And I tried to do that with the Chiefs this year, and it backfired in my face.
Patrick Mahomes is that version of Tom Brady, where it's just like,
when he's out there, when he's on the field, two minutes to go,
you know he's going to find a way to get it done.
So I got to take the Chiefs, even though it pains me to say it.
And I guess for MVP, I mean, Patrick Mahomes is the easy answer
because I'm sure it generally goes to a quarterback.
But I'll give Cleveland some love and say Kareem Hunt wins it.
Scores a couple touchdowns.
There you go.
There you go.
Kevin Ostrich, I got locked on Ravens.
I need your Super Bowl prediction, buddy.
But I also need your league MVP award winner prediction.
Oh, geez.
Oh, I'm glad you picked me for this one. I know why you did it too.
I'm going to go Philadelphia. We'll make it a tie two to two. So maybe David, you can be the
tiebreaker and pick the actual winner for the Lockdown Squad Show here today. I'm going to go
Philly just because I think their roster is more balanced out. And for Kansas City, that challenge
of stopping Saquon Barkley, it's daunting for any team.
And I just feel like with the way that Jalen Hurts has been talked about this season and what he has done, again, this has been like the Saquon Barkley show across the entire league for Philadelphia.
But what Jalen Hurts has done, it's not as impressive as Saquon, but I think that this is like the Jalen Hurts, hey, I'm still a really good quarterback by the way game. And people are saying, wait a second, is this the Jalen Hurts we saw a couple of years
ago showing up for this big moment? I remember after the Eagles lost the Superbowl to Kansas
City a couple of years ago, how devastated he was. And you could tell him in this press conference
after he could barely speak, he was so upset about it. And I feel like him and this entire Eagles
team, I'm going to use that for motivation
but again motivation can't be the only thing that can get you over the Kansas City Chiefs hump
because that team has been there they've done that this is just another walk in the park for
the Chiefs just another another Sunday for Kansas City going in the Super Bowl so I'm going to say
Eagles win it but my league MVP candidate to me it is Lamar Jackson. It is. And it's nothing against Josh Allen.
I feel kind of rusty talking about these takes because I've kind of put it in the rearview mirror.
But to me, Josh had an incredible year.
Lamar had an incredible year.
I know the argument for Josh Allen is that the Bills were the two seed.
The Ravens were the three seed.
The Bills had one more win than the Ravens did.
And I think that that does carry some weight.
I'm not saying it doesn't.
But the statistical advantage Lamar had over Josh this season,
and both guys had signature moments.
Josh obviously had the run against Kansas City on fourth and one.
Lamar finished out the season, I thought, very strong.
Whereas Josh Allen, Mike, you know, against the Patriots,
it was not a great game in a moment where he maybe could have wrapped up that award. So this is not going to be unanimous. Both guys are going to get
votes and they deservedly will get votes. But I also don't think the narrative should be,
we're going to give Josh Allen the award because he doesn't have one. I think that's been what
I've seen a couple of times here. Give the award to the guy that deserves it. If it was Josh,
I would say, Hey, give that award to Josh Allen. I think Josh will be an MVP in the future.
I just think this year I'm going to say a little more.
Hey, David, can I give my MVP pick real quick?
I mean, you are the boss, so yes.
I guess that's fair.
Hey, David, I'm going to give my MVP pick real quick.
I took the Kansas City Chiefs with the Super Bowl,
so my Super Bowl MVP is going to be Ron Torbert.
That's the way that I'm going to go with it.
I think it's all officiating.
It's all officiating, baby.
There's too much officiating talk.
Travis Kelsey said
stop talking about those officials.
There's too much officiating talk around
the Super Bowl week and
Radio Row and all this other stuff
so far this week leading up for there
not to be an absolutely
catastrophic game by the
officials. It's too suspicious.
The wildest timeline is the Chiefs to have no penalties.
The Eagles get no penalties the entire game until the last two minutes,
and it's a game-altering call, and that's like there's nothing for the entire game.
Are there any betting odds on that? Can we bet on that?
So I have a locked-on Commander's Insider who has a bold prediction for the Super Bowl
that second to last play of the game, Chiefs will be down four.
The pass will fall incomplete, and the clock will hit zeros,
but there will be a flag on an Eagles defender for hitting Patrick Mahomes
that will give the Chiefs an untimed down.
However, Mahomes gets injured and Carson
Wentz comes in and throws a game-winning
touchdown.
That would be wild.
Retire Carson Wentz's jersey
immediately.
You about took Tony out with that one.
If that happens, I might retire.
I will be the tiebreaker
actually. I wasn't going to, but I will be the tiebreaker
since you brought it up, Kevin. Ross Jackson knows why, but I have a very specific reason
I don't want the Kansas City Chiefs to win the Super Bowl this weekend.
However, I also know that he will be in attendance,
and the opportunity to witness the first NFL team in history
winning back-to-back-to-back Super Bowls is a very valuable moment.
So out of my loyalty, and no, I'm not sucking you up,
even though you're going to say I am, to Ross Jackson,
I hope that he gets to witness it.
I'm going to pick the Kansas City Chiefs.
Yeah, you sucked up. That's what you did.
I'm going to pick
the Chiefs to win the game that gets to
bracket a Kendrick Lamar concert here in
New Orleans on Sunday night.
Good job sucking up, David.
Yes, sir. Thank you.
Your bonus check is in the mail. I had to turn around and talk to
somebody real quick. Sorry. Thank you for bringing me to New Orleans sir
Can I say something
Of course
You could say anything
That comment
That comment didn't almost take me out
The fact that my meds are kicking in
That almost took me out
We all might lose our job if I stay over here too long
Spencer I'm going to tell you something.
You knew, man.
Don't you let them intimidate you.
If you have any problems, you call me.
But if you have any technical problems, you better not call me.
You might as well go get your pet dog to fix that because I can't help you.
All right.
I've been taking a lot of notes this first month, so I'm making that note.
If I need defending, if I'm in a dark alley, I got Tony on my side.
If it's anything technical, I don't need Tony.
Got it.
That's right.
So here we go.
I think what we're going to have is a passing of the torch.
And that passing of the torch is going to come from Chris Jones to Jalen Carter.
Jalen Carter is going to get two sacks and dominate this game,
especially if they have to move Joe Tooney outside.
They're going to have a problem.
I do believe that it's going to be a limited possession game.
I think that kid is going to absolutely dominate in front of a guy who I think
is in the gold category for defensive tackles.
I'm going with the Philadelphia Eagles to win this game.
Now, Vic Fangio, he started out 3-0 against Andy Reid as a coordinator.
He's now 3-9. He's lost like nine in a row or eight in a row. So I think all streaks come to
an end and I think he finally has all of these players. And I just don't see anybody on the
Eagles that I can point to and say, I don't think they're going to have a good game. I think the
corners are going to have a good game. I think CJ Gardner Johnson is going to have a good game.
I think the tackles are going to have a good game. I think their offensive line is really, really good.
Both of their receivers, they're tight in the running back.
I just don't see where one of those guys is going to come into this game
and not deliver.
I think it's going to be close, but I think they're going to pull it off.
Great.
So now we're tied and out of time.
Yeah, now we're tied again.
So, Aaron Freeman, real quick, I need you to make a prediction.
I'm going chalk.
Chiefs, Packer Mahomes, MVP.
All right.
Chiefs win.
Thank you, everybody, for joining us.
Why does it wait?
Why does it ask Mike, too?
Because Mike, Mike, the only one is going to get a tie.
You can only make a prediction if it's Chiefs.
All right.
That's what I thought.
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