Locked On Patriots - Daily Podcast On The New England Patriots - Oh, Henry! Getting to Know the New England Patriots Newest Tight End — 3/18/2021

Episode Date: March 18, 2021

The New England Patriots will employ one of the best tight end tandems in the NFL during the 2021 NFL season. Joining host Mike D’Abate is David Drogemeier, host of Locked On Chargers. The duo discuss the on-field, and off-field prowess of tight end Hunter Henry. Mike also provides his thoughts on the re-signing of LB Kyle Van Noy, the trade of TE Ryan Izzo, and the retirement of S Patrick Chung.Support Us By Supporting Our Sponsors! Built BarBuilt Bar is a protein bar that tastes like a candy bar. Go to builtbar.com and use promo code “LOCKED15,” and you’ll get 15% off your next order.BetOnline AGThere is only 1 place that has you covered and 1 place we trust. Betonline.ag! Sign up today for a free account at betonline.ag and use that promocode: LOCKEDON for your 50% welcome bonus.Rock AutoAmazing selection. Reliably low prices. All the parts your car will ever need. Visit RockAuto.com and tell them Locked On sent you.Join our Bracket Challengehttps://fantasy.espn.com/tournament-challenge-bracket/2021/en/group?groupID=3624947 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

You are Locked On Patriots, your daily New England Patriots podcast. Part of the Locked On Podcast Network, your team every day. Hello to all of you Foxborough faithful. Today is Thursday, March 18th, 2021. More comings and goings in New England, and it's time to meet the other new tight end on the Patriots roster here on your daily home for news notes and analysis infused with the occasional opinion on your six-time Super Bowl champions,

the New England Patriots. Locked On Patriots is presented today by RockAuto.com. Amazing selection, reliably low prices, all the parts your car will ever need. Visit RockAuto.com and tell them Locked On sent you. Greetings and salutations, Patriots Nation, and thank you so much for joining me here on this Thursday episode of the pod. My name is Mike DeBate, your host of the Locked On Patriots podcast, which of course is a proud part of the Locked On Podcast Network, your team every day.

And folks, because it's your team every day, that means your questions, your comments, your feedback, always welcomed, very much encouraged. So share that feedback, send it to the internet by reaching out to me and following me on Twitter at MDABATEFPC. And while you're out there doing some Thursday traveling through the Twitterverse, please be sure to follow the Lockdown Patriots account as well at LO underscore Patriots. Pats fans, it seems like a lifetime ago that we were all sitting here wondering how the Patriots would invest their new financial windfall. $65-plus million in cap space available.

How would they invest it? Well, throughout the last four days, we found out exactly how the Patriots will be investing it. They'll be investing it big time. A lot of new faces headed to Foxborough. Exciting times for all Patriots fans. And yesterday here on the pod, we began a series that will take place throughout the course of the next couple of weeks here on Locked On Patriots to help you get to know

some of those new faces that you'll be seeing in Foxborough this spring, summer, and of course, into the fall. And we started with the first free agent to find his way to Foxborough on Monday morning, Janu Smith, formerly of the Tennessee Titans, now of your New England Patriots, who will be playing tight end for the Pats this year. And of course, one of the many great things about being able to work for the Locked On Podcast Network is you have an endless pool of experts to choose from when you want to know and need to know all the intricate details about what makes guys like John O'Smith such

amazing football players. Tyler Rowland, host of Locked On Titans, joined us here and he gave us a lot of insight on John U. Smith, both from a personal and professional standpoint. Well, today here on the pod, we're going to get to know the second gentleman that's going to comprise that two-man tight end set that has everyone in Foxborough buzzing. Hunter Henry, formerly of the Los Angeles Chargers, a gentleman that I've had the privilege of covering during my time on the Chargers beat, will now be a New England Patriot. But admittedly, my sharp eye has been diverted the last couple of years, primarily focusing on covering the New England Patriots.

So the insight I can provide on Hunter Henry will only take us so far. Luckily, a good friend of mine who just happens to be my colleague at the Locked On Podcast Network, one-third of the hosting trio of Locked On Chargers, Dave Droegemeier, joins me here on the pod today, and we will talk all things Hunter Henry. What makes Hunter such a prolific in-line tight end in the NFL? But we'll also talk about why Hunter Henry might be one of the most complete tight ends in the game today.

Last but certainly not least, we'll be talking about Hunter on and off the field, the presence he's likely to build in the community here in New England, and also how much of a mentor he can be to young tight ends like Devin Asiasi and Dalton Keene. Folks, today on the pod, it's part two of Getting to Know You, Hunter Henry, and we get to know a little bit more about Hunter with Dave Droegemeier of Locked On Chargers in just a moment. But first, we start with the news of the day, and just like Monday, Tuesday, and Wednesday, folks, we've got lots to talk about here on Thursday, and we start with news that broke on Wednesday evening, something we didn't get a chance to address yesterday here on the pod, and that is the return of yet another old friend to the Foxborough fold.

Linebacker Kyle Van Noy agreeing to a two-year deal with the New England Patriots. That deal can pay him up to $13.2 million. And this deal was heavily rumored for quite some time, at least back to the time we found out that Kyle Van Noy was going to be released by the Miami Dolphins. From a financial standpoint, this deal was very low risk, a two-year deal worth up to $13.2 million with incentives. From a logistical standpoint on the field, Van Noy comes back and immediately shores up the Patriots' pass rush, and I believe will also serve as a great mentor to guys like Josh Uche, Anthony Jennings, Juwan Bentley, even Chase Winovich to a certain extent. But make no

mistake about it, this is not just a mentorship role that Kyle Van Noy is being asked to come here and assume. He's going to be one of their more versatile defenders. He's capable of playing on the edge, he can play off the ball, and the veteran leadership he can bring to this team will complement guys like Dante Hightower and Matt Judon quite nicely. So much like they did with the tight end position on offense, the Patriots looking at the linebacker position on defense, realizing that there were some holes there, and the Patriots act quickly to fill them with capable veterans and players that will make an immediate impact on this team in 2021.

But it wasn't all arrivals for the New England Patriots. They did have some departures as well. The first of which we learned about on the very early morning hours of Thursday, when All-Cardinals Howard Balzer reported that the Patriots had in fact parted ways with defensive tackle Bo Allen due to a failed physical and also wide receiver Marquise Lee. And to be honest, neither one of these moves surprised me at all. Lee definitely had some upside, but his opting out of the 2020 season without the Patriots really seeing what he could do on the field

probably made him expendable. I fully expect that Marquise Lee will hook on with another team and I actually think he'll go on to a pretty good career. With regard to Bo Allen, who I do assure you, folks, does exist. I know there's still some question marks out there on that. I can't necessarily blame you for feeling that way, but I assure you, he is a living, breathing human being. Bo Allen being released because of a failed physical is definitely not a shock.

He spent the entirety of 2020 on the sidelines. As a result, the Patriots know they need to shore up that nose tackle position. They have started to do that with a couple of good additions. Henry Anderson, who I absolutely love for this team. I also like the acquisition of Devon Godchow. If I'm being honest, I think they need one more addition in there, whether or not that's someone they target in the NFL draft or whether or not it's another free agent. I would love to see one more depth piece added along the interior of the defensive line.

Obviously, the team losing Adam Butler yesterday to the Miami Dolphins. Hopefully, they can strike a deal to bring back Lawrence Guy. So with that, we say arrivederci to Bo Allen and to Marquise Lee. But unfortunately, that wasn't the only departure to be reported on Thursday. And I say this with all respect to the feelings and the sensibility of my good friend and colleague, the Countess of Clas herself, Miss Claire Clasie Claire Cooper, that it fills me with deep regret to inform you all that Ryan Izzo has been traded away from the New England Patriots to the Houston Texans.

And because of time restraints here on Locked On Patriots, I'm not able to offer a moment of silence for my good friend Claire right now. but if we're being honest, Izzo being traded away from New England was probably a foregone conclusion once the team had signed both Janu Smith and Hunter Henry. For what it's worth, Ryan Izzo was the leader in the tight end room last season. 13 receptions, 199 yards. I thought he did a fairly good job of blocking last year for the Pats, especially against the run, but ultimately I think he had a lot placed on his shoulders. Izzo was originally a 7th round pick, drafted 250th overall in 2018, and he was being asked to play the tight end one

role. That's a role he simply wasn't suited for. I will say this, Izzo's got great size for his position, again a solid run blocker, I think he's got better hands than he gets credit for. He'll go to Houston, and I expect him to continue a pretty good career. So, between the departures of Lee, Allen, Izzo, we've had enough with the goodbyes, haven't we, Patriots Nation? Well, not so fast. This one is a fond farewell, though, however. And, at least in my opinion, a little bit of a surprise.

Thursday morning, former Patriots safety Patrick Chung, that's right, I said former Patriots safety, took to his social media accounts to announce his retirement from the NFL after 11 seasons. At 33 years of age, Chung will leave the NFL after amassing 153 total games, 11 career interceptions, and one touchdown. And the statement he issued reads as follows, quote, I want to say thank you to the Patriots organization, my family, my fans, the coaches, just everyone. I'm in tears writing this, but I've decided to hang up the cleats. Bill, Mr. Craft, and then in brackets he puts Mean Mug, thank you for giving me the opportunity

to play for your team for 11 years. I love you. Bill, for teaching me life on and off the field. I will not forget that. To my teammates, trainers, equipment team, video guys, meal room employees, janitors, etc. I love you guys and ladies. Thank you

for being the rock to the organization, for cleaning up, feeding, taking care of me for 11 years. You will forever be family, but it's time to start a new life. Patriot until I die, love you all. And of course, we'll all remember Patrick Chung's two tours of duty in Foxborough, especially the second time around, where he was really put in a position to showcase his talents by Bill Belichick and the Patriots coaching staff.

He played a key role in helping the team win three Super Bowls, and was considered one of the best strong safeties in the NFL for much of his career. Again, this was a little bit of a surprise to me, because even though Patrick Chung did opt out of the 2020 season, a lot of the hints he had been dropping on social media lately indicated he was ready to come back. But ultimately, Patrick Chung made the best decision for himself and his family, and you cannot fault him for that. His toughness, his field awareness, and his skill are going to be sorely missed by the Patriots on the field.

But if I'm being honest, I think the most prominent impact Patrick Chung had on his teammates was setting an example of hard work and perseverance. His first stint with New England may have been considered an underachievement, but Patrick Chung fought to improve his skills and he became a better student of the game. He parlayed that work ethic into an impressive career that, in my opinion, should earn him a red jacket in the Patriots Hall of Fame someday. Sometimes the greatest gift an athlete can be given is a second chance. Patrick Chung got that chance, and he utilized it as well as anyone. Pat, congratulations on a great career. It's been my honor to cover you up here in New England for the

past few seasons, and I sincerely wish you and your family all of the best in your future endeavors. And with that, Patriots Nation, we decide to lighten the mood a little bit, and we get to know one of the newest and one of the most exciting acquisitions the Patriots have made in the last couple of days. Dave Droegemeier, host of the Locked On Chargers podcast, will join me here in just a moment and we'll discuss the on-field and off-field prowess of new Patriots tight end Hunter Henry. This when the Locked On Patriots podcast continues.

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On Tuesday, they figured, why not go out and get the two best tight ends available on the market? Let's bring back that 12-man personnel. The glory days of the two tight ends set. Well, the Patriots can run it this year, folks, and they might be able to run it better than any other team in football. Hunter Henry is a New England Patriot, and I love saying that, but you know who doesn't like saying that? My guest today. He is one-third of the hosting tandem of Locked On Chargers. My good bud, Dave Droegemeyer, stops by the pod. Dave, thanks for coming

by and welcome the Locked On Patriots. Of course, always happy to have a conversation about football with you, Mike. Yes, I'm not extremely happy to see Hunter Henry go to the Patriots, considering I am a Chargers analyst and a Chargers fan at heart. But, I mean, business is business. And, you know, you talked about the two tight end sets. I mean, we know that when the Patriots offense was at its most dynamic, it's when they had two tight ends on the field that they didn't have to take off the field and could handle multiple responsibilities. That's partly what

they're going to get with Hunter Henry. That is what they're going to get with Hunter Henry. And I mentioned, you mentioned partly, and I think that's a good preface for us to get into our discussion today on exactly what Henry will bring to the table. But an amazing career in Los Angeles, also San Diego. People forget that when he was drafted, they were the San Diego Chargers. And, you know, he really, I watched Henry covering the Chargers. I watched Henry really become a star at his position. Some may make the argument that his star is still on the rise. I'd be one of them.

I think he's still yet to reach his full potential, even though he's been one of the Chargers' best weapons on offense in the last couple of years. 196 career receptions, 2,322 yards, 21 touchdowns. Patriots definitely shelled out a little bit to get him, $37.5 million contract, $25 million in guarantees. But this is a move that i've been pining for all season long because the patriots have lacked that traditional wide roll tight end

that can accentuate his route running skills has a great ability to box out really really versatile in this role dave from the time that you've watched hunter evolve in the chargers uniform and you've been there for a little bit more of his evolution as he's really come into his own the last couple of years where I haven't had my sharp eye on the Chargers what type of player is Hunter Henry on the field and how much will the Chargers miss his production on the field yeah I mean first of all what type of player is Hunter Henry he's a complete tight end. I think I have to start there with the description because you don't have to take this guy off the

football field for any type of replacement because he can do all aspects of the tight end position very, very well. He's a very good blocker in the run game. He's tenacious. He is often used or has been or was used often, you know, trying to pull and get out in front of guys because he is one of the more sure blockers in the run game, as well as the pass game as well. He's going to provide some good pass protection if he is asked to stay in and handle that role. He can do that more than adequately. Hunter Henry is not the most explosive athlete, but he is very crisp in his routes. He is very sure hands. He's going to catch the football if it's anywhere in his radius. That's one thing in college, I don't believe he dropped a single pass during his

collegiate career. And that type of production, obviously not to that extreme degree, has carried over into his career in the NFL. But Hunter Henry, he's a guy, like I said, he's not going to get yards after the catch because he just doesn't have that type of blazing speed. You're probably going to see more of that out of Johnny Smith from this tandem, but Hunter Henry does every aspect of the tight end position very, very well. So that's something you're going to come to love and respect out of Hunter Henry. Also, he's a great person.

You know, he's a Christian. He's been married recently in the last couple of years. He's a recent father as well. He's just a good person. He's an easy person to root for because he's a good player on the field and he's a good person off the field. He truly is, and that's something that struck me about Hunter right from the time that he came in as a rookie right through the present day is the humility that he shows on the field each and every day.

And when either speaking to the media or speaking to his fans or just conducting himself, always the epitome of class. And I do want to get into a little bit more about Hunter Henry, the man, in just a moment, because these segments here on Locked on Patriots this week are about getting to know the new guys. And this is one guy that I think will really endear himself to Patriots Nation. But I wanted to talk a little bit more on the field when it comes to his pairing with John O. Smith. A lot of Patriots fans have visions dancing around in their heads of Gronk Hernandez 2.0.

And I think that there's some truth to that, but these guys aren't going to fit into the cookie cutter molds of what Gronk Hernandez did. There are two little bit skill set that does lend itself to one another, but they're two different types of players, two different sets of tight ends. We mentioned earlier, and you mentioned that Hunter is more of that traditional wide type tight end. He's going to be someone that is not going to get a ton of yards after the catch, but he is going to run routes precisionally. He's really a dynamic route runner, one of my favorite aspects of his game. And that combined with a sizable offensive line that the Patriots are employing in 2021 and a pretty capable running game, they can really be poised to succeed in those play-action schemes.

Josh McDaniels is going to have a lot of fun dialing those up, maybe even running Jonu Smith out of the backfield. We saw them do that when they had Gronk and Hernandez, and I think Jonu can let himself into that very well. In terms of being able to pair with a dynamic tight end like Jonu Smith, Hunter Henry has some experience in that area, pairing with Antonio Gates for a number of years. I know Gates was on the downside of his career when these two played together, but how much of a complementary teammate will Hunter Henry be to another dynamic tight end in Jonu Smith? Well, he's another guy you have to account for. I mean, yes, Antonio Gates was at the latter part of his career at that point in time, but he was still dynamic enough to draw attention

and take some of that attention away from Hunter Henry. So that's the thing. It's going to be a double-edged sword with this situation. If you try to concentrate on Johnny Smith and you forget about Hunter Henry, that's going to be a big problem for you. Because like you said, he does have very, very crisp and precise routes. He has very, very good hands. He's a weapon in the red zone. I think that's something that the Chargers did not utilize enough to that effect. I really wish that he got more opportunities. And also, it seemed like when

the Chargers offense was humming and going the right way, Hunter Henry was highly involved in the game plan. He had five, six catches. Normally, when that happened, the Chargers won football games. I mean, he's that type of guy. He's a catalyst type of player. And I think he can continue to be that for the Patriots. But it's just the fact that you have to account for him. You cannot ignore Hunter Henry because, yes, he's not the most athletic, he's not the fastest guy, but he will get open. It's like Keenan Allen. Keenan Allen is not the fastest receiver in the NFL, but he is so technically sound that he will get open and Hunter Henry he will get open not by much but he's going to catch the ball so you have to account for that that's why it's going to be so dynamic and that's why play action is going to be so effective because you seriously cannot tell based off of alignment and personnel whether the Patriots are going to run the football or they're going to throw the ball because Hunter Henry does both of those things extremely well that's why why this aspect, this skill set, is going to allow the Patriots offense to be more multiple.

And when you're more multiple, you're more successful. Absolutely. 12-man personnel for days coming up in New England, and I know fans are excited about it. Look, they have their move tight end in Jonu Smith. They have their prototypical in-line tight end in Hunter Henry. Henry's ability to run routes, again, his ability to box out, such a reliable pass catcher and a strong blocker, complete total package at the tight end position,

and we here in New England are thrilled to have him. And, Dave, I really appreciate you joining me today to give some insight on what Hunter Henry lends on the field. But I do want to pick your brain before I let you go today, my friend, on Hunter Henry the man. What type of person are we getting here in Foxborough with the arrival of Hunter Henry? We find out with Dave Droegemeier of Locked On Chargers

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your podcasts. Folks, Dave Droegemeier joins me here today, host or one-third of the hosting tandem of the Locked On Chargers podcast. And Dave, in the previous segment, we talked a lot about what Hunter Henry does for the Patriots on the field, particularly two tight end sets, 12-man personnel, giving the Patriots that dynamic two tight end tandem that they've longed for for quite some time. But you alluded to this earlier, and I've had the chance to be able to see Hunter evolve

into quite the professional athlete. You've had a much closer and sharper look at Hunter's evolution. In terms of his relationship to the fan base in Los Angeles and now hopefully in New England, what type of person are the Patriots or their fans expecting to get or should they expect to get in Hunter Henry's arrival in Foxborough? Well, I think that kind of starts with Tom Telesco, the evaluator, and the type of people and type of men that he wants to bring into his organization. It's always high character,

high class guys, people that do not get into trouble. They are just good, upstanding young men. Hunter Henry is that in spades. He, like I said before, he's a Christian man. He's a, he's very godly. His faith is very important to him. He's married. He does have a kid. He's always been extremely respectful in any situation. Whenever he's in press conferences or talking to fans, he is always a very, very humble individual. And that's one thing you mentioned earlier as well, but I can't really accentuate that enough. He just is a good, good person. You're going to see that in press conferences. You're going to see it on the field too. And you're going to hear it from his teammates. His teammates love him. He was a captain with the Chargers because of that ability to lead.

And when he first came in, you know, when you're teamed up with a future Hall of Fame tight end and Antonio Gates, it's kind of like, well, let me just sit back, watch, learn, and observe. But now, as Antonio Gates crept a little bit into the background more and more and then eventually retired, Hunter Henry stepped more and more into that leadership role. And he leads by example. The way he works, he's a ferocious worker. He's just a good person. You're never going to catch him in a situation to where you he's going to compromise himself or his character

he's like i said he just was raised correctly he has a good head on his shoulders he's very intelligent he's very intelligent he is just a good quality person i think people are going to see that they're going to appreciate that and they're going to love that in New England. Yeah. And I think they will as well. And look, you talk about high quality, high character. That's something that I've always admired about Hunter and Rob Gronkowski did, you know, definitely embody that while he was here in New England for all of the frat boy image that Rob puts out on the field and he puts out in public. This is a guy that really spent an awful lot of time getting to know his fans, being kind and courteous to everyone he ever met, and also his involvement in the community.

And I know that's something Hunter believes in very strongly, and I know it'll endear him to Patriots fans. Last but certainly not least here, Bud, before I let you go, Henry has been someone that Bill Belichick has been enamored with for quite some time. We talked about this during our crossover back in December. Especially if you watched the end of that Patriots game. Got a nice little hug. That postgame embrace probably was a little bit more foreshadowing. I think I even tagged you in a tweet in that. Yeah, I do remember that. Trying to kind of raise the ire a little bit more foreshadowing as much i think i even tagged you in a tweet in that yeah yeah i remember that trying to kind of raise the eye over a little bit who knew that it would actually be a future telling but uh there's no question about it uh belichick when he has his

eye on you from the time that you are in high school uh and he did uh obviously hunter playing at pulaski academy in little rock arkansas Legendary high school coach there, Kevin Kelly, has a relationship with Bill Belichick. And Bill was effusive in his praise for Hunter Henry, both on the field and off the field. Hunter is actually coming in with a couple of young tight ends on this roster. Devin Asiasi and also Dalton Keene. Neither one really lived up to the hype that the Patriots had on them last year. They were high draft capital, didn't quite really live into their role, but now they're going to be able to learn from two of the best in the game. What kind of mentor can Hunter Henry be to these

two young tight ends on the Patriots roster? I think he can be an incredible mentor. I mean, just the way he goes about his business and the way how he's so complete in his game. He can really teach every aspect of the tight end position. And yeah, you said they were high draft picks. But honestly, those two tight ends in my evaluation last year, they were fifth or sixth round guys. I thought the Patriots took them way, way earlier than most other people do. But hey, we know the Patriots do what they want and how they want to do it. So that's obviously no surprise there.

But he had a great mentor too. I mean, the pass catching element, the boxing out element that he learned from Antonio Gates. I mean, nobody in the NFL, honestly, nobody in NFL history did that better than Antonio Gates did. So there's no better mentor in that aspect of catching a football at the tight end position. There's no better mentor in that aspect of catching a football

at the tight end position. There's no better person to learn from. Hunter Henry has that knowledge. He also has that ability to teach blocking both against the run and in the passing game. I just think the way he is so technical, the fact that he's such a good technician and the experience that he's got from his journey in the NFL is only going to benefit these two young tight ends as long as they're

able to listen and learn and be there and work as much as Hunter Henry is going to, because that's what's going to happen. He's going to come in the building. He's going to work his butt off every single day. And, you know, he's going to pull that out of these young tight ends too i think it's only going to be a good experience for them as long as they open their ears and they close their mouths and listen absolutely and i could not have said it better from a man that knows his hunter henry knows his los angeles chargers and above all knows his football we are ecstatic to have hunter henry up here in new england

and dave you know, anytime you want to watch a game or you need some sort of insight on what he's doing, you know I'll have you in the pipeline. All kidding aside, buddy, I thank you for spending time with me today to help our fans here in New England get to know Hunter Henry. Folks, catch Dave

Droegemeier on Locked On Chargers. Also, catch him alongside John Kegley and Dan Wade. The Locked On Chargers podcast is a phenomenal listen. I can't recommend it highly enough. Until the next time we have a chance to speak, buddy, stay safe, stay well, and thanks again for joining me here today on Locked On Patriots. Always a pleasure, and please do the same, my friend.

Absolutely, buddy. You as well. Patriots fans, we are nearly through your work week, and what a week it's been here in Foxborough. And if you think that our coverage has been stellar up till this point, well, thank you. I appreciate that. We really do try our best here on Locked on Patriots to bring you the best coverage we possibly can,

but we've definitely saved the best for last. Joining me tomorrow here on the pod to take you into the weekend in style and to help us recap the wild week it's been in Foxborough is the voice of the New England Patriots, Bob Soce of 98.5 The Sports Hub, as we discuss all the comings and goings in Foxborough and what his 21 prognosis for the New England Patriots will be. So to ensure that you do not miss a single second of the action, download and subscribe to the Locked On Patriots podcast on platforms such as Spotify, Radio.com, Google Podcasts, Apple Podcasts, wherever you get your podcasts.

Just make sure that you're staying locked in to Locked On Patriots. Once again, my name is Mike DeBate. I thank my good friend Dave Droegemeyer, host of the Locked On Chargers podcast, for his time, his insight, and his appearance today. But most of all, I thank you so much for listening and for making Locked On Patriots a daily part of your New England Patriots coverage.

Until tomorrow, Pats Nation, stay safe, stay well, continue to be the change you wish to see in the world. Have a great day, everyone.