Locked On Patriots - Daily Podcast On The New England Patriots - Pats Priorities: What are the Biggest Needs on Offense and Defense for the New England Patriots? — 2/16/22

Episode Date: February 17, 2022

As the New England Patriots look ahead to 2022, the team must address several areas of need during the offseason. Joining host Mike D’Abate is Clare ‘ClazzyClare’ Cooper. The dynamic duo discuss... the Patriots top needs on both offense and defense heading into the upcoming season.Support Us By Supporting Our Sponsors!Built BarBuilt Bar is a protein bar that tastes like a candy bar. Go to builtbar.com and use promo code “LOCKED15,” and you’ll get 15% off your next order.BetOnlineBetOnline..net has you covered this season with more props, odds and lines than ever before. BetOnline – Where The Game Starts!Rock AutoAmazing selection. Reliably low prices. All the parts your car will ever need. Visit RockAuto.com and tell them Locked On sent you. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Patriots fans, the 2021 NFL season is in the books and your New England Patriots have to start building for the future. 2022 is right around the corner. What is priority one for the Patriots as they attempt to build their offense and defense for the upcoming season? Joining me here today on the pod to discuss that very subject and more is the Countess of Clas herself. Talking Patriots offensive and defensive priorities for 2022. I'm Mike DeBate of Sports Illustrated's Fan Nation Patriot Maven, and you are about to be locked in to the Locked On Patriots podcast. You are Locked On Patriots, your daily New England Patriots podcast. Part of the Locked On Podcast Network. Your team, every day.
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Starting point is 00:01:22 the same great content that you know, and love each and every week coming at you on YouTube, as well as wherever you get your podcasts. And of course, the great regular guests that we have here on Locked On Patriots, they're not going anywhere, folks. The Count of Murphy Fisto himself still owns the day of Monday. Our resident voice of reason, Steve Balistrieri, will still be our guest here on Tuesday. And bringing a level of class to the show that just isn't there any other day of the week is my guest today. You know her great work as being a phenomenal columnist for patspropaganda.com as well as fullpresscoverage.com Patriots, which on that platform, she also hosts her very own podcast, A Clear Perspective, a Patriots podcast.
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Starting point is 00:02:31 Claire does a great job with some of the other guests that she gets. But the insight that she provides is right there with it. And believe me when I tell you, you will not be disappointed. Definitely listen to each and every episode. They just keep getting better and better every time she hits the microphone. That being said, she is our guest here today on Locked On Patriots, and we couldn't be happier for that. She is the Empress of Tight Endage, the Queen of TE, the Baroness of Blockers, the Principal of Positivity, the Countess of Class herself, and the new Lady of Lockdown here on Wednesdays.
Starting point is 00:03:06 From West Midlands in the UK, Claire Classey. Claire Cooper joins me today. Claire, thank you for joining me today from across the pond. No, thank you, as always, for having me. It's so much fun to come on here on a Wednesday. Yeah, it's just great. Highlight of the week for me. You just like hearing all your names.
Starting point is 00:03:24 Be honest with me. I know. It's amazing. How long is that list yeah i just sit here just listen you know really i mean everybody always accuses me of i shouldn't say accuse me i'm always praised for uh the level of reverence that i show to my guests coming on most people tell me i'm one of the best introducers in the business. And I take that very pridefully because it's not put on. It really is. It's all from the heart.
Starting point is 00:03:52 But it also I like to think I also give my guests a little chance to kind of, you know, get ready for the for the you know, the day and get ready for the pod. Once the record button is hit, they get an opportunity to organize their thoughts one last time while I'm going through my long introductions. the pod. Once the record button is hit, they get an opportunity to organize their thoughts one last time while I'm going through my long introductions. But again, this is from the heart, and I really do appreciate you being here on Locked On, Patriots, and being our lady of Locked On every single Wednesday. It's a lot of fun to join you here on the mic and to talk football with you, and we've got a lot to talk about, Claire.
Starting point is 00:04:25 We always do. Patriots, even though it's the offseason, it's the offseason for every team. We're now dealing with the aftermath from Super Bowl 56. And that is in the rearview mirror. All 32 teams now are on to 2022. And Murph joined me here yesterday on the pod, and we talked a little bit about the transition that the Patriots now are making in the coaching ranks. Josh McDaniels taking his talents to Las Vegas. By the way, I don't know if you had a chance to see it. Josh put a full page ad in the Boston Globe thanking Patriots fans. Very classy, very heartfelt message for anyone that had any ill will toward Josh McDaniels for doing what he did or leaving.
Starting point is 00:05:06 This was a really classy message mentioning Robert Kraft, Tom Brady and Bill Belichick all as the three goats. I don't think that's something that anyone would argue. He really is doing things the right way this time. Being said, there also is a little twinge that Patriots fans are feeling for Josh right now because he's doing some coaching poaching out there in Las Vegas, taking some of the offensive members of the Patriots coaching staff and adding them to the Raiders spot. One area, though, Claire, where the Patriots may have some continuity, believe it or not, is on the defensive side of the ball. And I know people are going to be listening to this, screaming at their device saying, how can you say this continuity?
Starting point is 00:05:47 They didn't have a play caller last year. Steve Belichick is terrible. They don't have any direction. We understand the feelings of the fan base. And far be it for me to argue with the fans in that regard. But I will say this. The New England Patriots are taking a lot of these coaches, they're bringing them back. Gerard Mayo sticking around with this defense, with this team,
Starting point is 00:06:11 is something that I think is a very big plus for the New England Patriots this year. But we've talked a lot about coaching, Claire. The biggest task that the Patriots have in their immediate future right now is trying to build a roster, and that starts with free agency, which is set to begin in just under a month on March 14th. That legal tampering period begins in the NFL, and you're going to start to see the Patriots pursue some free agents, and then, of course, the draft being at the end of April. We'll start on the defensive side of the ball because that's essentially what I was just rambling about. When you look at this Patriots defense and you look at the job that they did this year, they're very good against the pass, so-so against the run, struggled down the stretch to, I think, get enough speed and enough athleticism after the quarterback to really be as effective as they were in the middle part of the season Claire what is your take on the Patriots biggest need this offseason on the
Starting point is 00:07:12 defensive side of the ball what do they need most of all to get back to where everyone believes they should be and maybe where the Patriots believe they should be themselves well i think you hit the nail on the head you know quite significantly there might the speed the defense itself was was severely lacking in speed i mean perhaps the defense as you mentioned is the most significant area of need for the patriots as a whole and there's two reasons really sure there's plenty of guys due to leave on free agency as you mentioned but it feels that many kind of maybe even need replacing maybe if they don't even lose those individuals to free agency um that they still need something there they need that speed putting in it seems to have gotten slow and i mean
Starting point is 00:08:00 it's not the strength it's always been. But when I say always, I mean, the Patriots' defence has been kind of well known for its strength and stability under Bill Belichick. Because at the heart of him, he's a defence coordinator initially. I mean, it's been a formidable force. And this season, it has just seemed, when I say this season, obviously the season that we have just finished with they're just concluding it's just seemed old and slow and I mean that with the most respect possible because I understand that saying the world old for a guy who's 29 30 or 31 is is is tragic we shouldn't be but the you know it's the most easiest way to describe that that's how it looked because of the just the lack of the speed I mean even now additions like Matt Judon who played
Starting point is 00:08:52 phenomenal in the earlier part of the season he just seemed to run out of steam now I'm not saying he is old or slow at all but he just epitomizes like the the performance that the defense had it was so strong and then it just seemed to sort of taper off I mean the cornerback situation has been in flux really I mean first it was you know before the season even started and it was all the Gilmore stuff it was about keeping Gilmore and we didn't know if they you know if he was back to his full force you know there's there's no way they're going to let him go that kind of thing and at the point people weren't sure about JC Jackson either so it was significant to say that you know they should bring back Stefan Gilmore but Bill did a Bill thing and he didn't want to pay and I mean that's fair enough I don't
Starting point is 00:09:46 know if we've seen very much significantly of Stephon this this season and you know how his recovery back was from injury and that kind of thing so I know that um I understand from reports read that they wanted to see him at full force before they wanted to pay and then you know he just wanted to be paid and things like that I know there's lots of ifs buts and candy nuts on that one so I'm you know I'm not going to really rehash it but it since the beginning of that that position itself in regards to cornerback has been in flux and there was the concerns about JC Jackson when when Gilmore went okay that's fine fair enough they've got rid is JC up to the task because he's got to be CB1 now and I mean he had a good season but it's got this sense of like deja vu obviously not kind of like
Starting point is 00:10:33 coming off injury but now it's the case of should the Patriots pay him again we've got another kind of number one inverted commas cornerback proved to have quite a good season so he's you know he's going off he's hitting off on free agency should they franchise tag him should they keep him are they going to you know he's is he gonna want big money the Patriots haven't really got big money this time because of all the expenditure and last year and the the cap space and all the the lovely mathematical things that Miguel likes to go into that really aren't my you know I'm not here for the math but folks so but I mean it just feels like that position has just been so up in the air for so many kind of seasons now and I mean
Starting point is 00:11:19 not only cornerback but there's linebacker I mean this is another sort of has been in flux for a while they stuck a band-aid on it last year kind of fix they brought back Van Noy and he was it was a good call to bring him back and you know and Jamie Collins but there wasn't you know I don't think Collins necessarily did a whole fat lot I know I think he's only on a one new deal but and they brought back old patriots that kind of knew the system and and that was a good idea but they're bringing back older and you're looking and the spotlight is on this position that needs to get younger that needs to get quicker and there's the whole thing about how linebackers are kind of physically I know that there's a lot of talk
Starting point is 00:12:08 about how Bill Belichick likes kind of say likes sort of prefers the sort of the bigger kind of linebacker and that just in itself brings you know ahead sort of maybe slower guys you know the kind of airing on the side of they haven't got the speed because they've got the strength kind of thing. And you really need that combination now of strength and speed. And I think it's going to be subjective to the individual because I don't think that you can purely look at size because I know a lot of people talk about weight. And I think that there are plenty of players that that have got weight on them they're bigger or taller whatever but they've still got the speed and that's that's the key that they need to look at and I don't think you need to kind of worry at how heavy the linebacker is you need to worry more
Starting point is 00:12:56 about how much the linebacker can move how fast he can move and I think that sort of is something that is a little bit off the beaten track of what Bill's used to sort of dealing with and you know it needs evolving a little bit in all fairness I mean we've got six linebackers due to hit free agency with Hightower, King, Bentley, Collins and Hall there is Harvey Lange too but I think i believe i may be incorrect so i don't have all my he re-upped earlier yeah he's under contract for one more he's under contract yeah that's what i got down i was pretty sure about that and and i i put out all the the list of all the linebackers that they've got going and i mean looking at it bentley's 25 so he kind of
Starting point is 00:13:43 skews the norm of what I'm talking about. But you've got like Jamie Collins of 32, Dante Hightower of 31, Brandon King, 28, and Therese Hall, 25. So again, you know, it's a bit of a mix. But then you look at who they've got kind of, those are all free agents, by the way. They're the ones that are going off on free agency. Sorry, it's my tangent. And then you've got the ones, we've got linebackers that are actually currently presently on the Patriots
Starting point is 00:14:09 roster under injury or injury reserve and those bodies are new young bodies now I know that youth does not necessarily mean speed you know we all know this but when you look at it you've got Jennings, McMillan, Perkins and McGrone now they all range from 21 to 26 but they're all coming back with injury reserve and this concerns me it looks like the Patriots have got this reserve of linebackers different obviously inside outside in all fairness I know I'm just clumping them together and I appreciate that but it looks like they've got this reserve of kind of youngerish talent but it's also how they come back from injury that's the concern now if you've got Uche 23 and you've got the Jennings Macmillan Perkins and McGrath all come back from injury all completely fine you know tip-top shape the only other linebacker you've got there that's kind of in the
Starting point is 00:15:05 old column as I hate to say in inverted commas is Kyle Van Noy I understand this is I didn't realize he was still under contract now he's he's the veteran presence the you know that they've got to that's necessary because I think that that's necessary in all these kind of situations is to keep some of the stability in the team and the only way you can do that is to maintain some of the veteran presence and so you're going to bump the average age up and I appreciate that what the Patriots know that we obviously don't is how all these guys that I've listed these younger guys are well equipped to be what the linebacker core needs to be next year and we don't know that I don't know how much they know that because of the whole coming back off injury so it's it's a tricky situation to
Starting point is 00:15:51 look at we know that the the cornerback situation you can sort of see that we know that it's kind of JC Jackson and that's really it sort of thing so kind of what's going to happen and we but with the linebackers there's all these names that are around and it's just the uncertainty of so many of them in regards to whether they're going to go in the in the name of like high tower and stuff and whether they can come back to any kind of peak performance in the range of kind of like Jennings and Perkins and stuff like that so it's there's a lot of I don't say stuff to worry about because that's a stupid thing to say really because it's not kind of up to us to worry but there's a lot there there's a lot of names you know in the hat in all fairness
Starting point is 00:16:34 when it comes to linebackers but it's definitely something that needs addressing it definitely needs looking at and shaking up now it might be that Bill's already done that looked at it shook it up and that's who these guys are these younger guys these these newer names and that was his way of shaking up the linebacker core and the only way you're going to be able to see that is time will tell so you know patience which you know is always a virtue that kind of thing so I think it's the defense definitely needs investing in but I just don't know if it needs investing in as hard as we think it does from just like the face of the appearance we know that they've got as you
Starting point is 00:17:11 mentioned coaching I know we're not going to delve into significantly coaching but the one sort of thing to look at in regards to the defense is although there's things to be concerned within the coaching staff you know that they're not naming of a defensive coordinator and all that kind of thing as long as they know what they're doing that's all I'm bothered about in all fairness you don't have to name a defensive coordinator if they all know what's going on as long as they know their job to me that's the thing that's most important but I know everybody feels very differently about it and we've still got a lot of the defense staff that was there before so you've you've still
Starting point is 00:17:45 got that stability that um familiarity that kind of thing so i think that it's just a case of tweaking a few things in regards to cornerback what are they going to do are they going to look at that in the draft sort of thing are they going to look at that in free agency are they going to be able to drop the money that jc wants keep him in New England and things like this? Or I know that there's the franchise tag that they can go down. So if they sort of figure that one out, I'm not really sure if the linebacker situation is as sort of tactuous as it appears on paper sort of thing. It might not be like I said, there's a lot of names in that hat there that that could turn out to be great and so it could it could solve its own problem we could
Starting point is 00:18:33 see this the solution could already be in new england we just don't really realize it because we haven't seen them because they've all been off on injury but with with regards to the defense it definitely needs some tightening up they definitely pull together i mean it definitely needs speed whatever they do however they do it whatever they choose it just needs to get they just need that speed that just needs to get quicker and i just that is the the sort of the most significant key in regards to the defense there i believe yeah and i agree with you on the speed uh they really, really do. I mean, to take a page from Top Gun, they, you know, they feel the need for speed. There's no question.
Starting point is 00:19:10 They look the step too slow at times, especially down the stretch. And as much as I love guys like Dante Hightower, Kyle Van Noy, they're not the same players that they used to be. And Jamie Collins, you can put him in, you know, with that level as well. So these guys can still be effective players. And by the way, I actually think that if Hightower decides that he's willing to give it another go, I don't see him wearing another uniform. I think he would be welcomed back here in New England because of the prowess and because of the knowledge he has of the system.
Starting point is 00:19:38 That's important to Bill Belichick, and it's important to this defensive coaching staff to have guys out there that can play that role. And you saw Gerard Mayo do it so much when he was here playing for the New England Patriots. Now in a coaching role, he understands truly how vital that role happens to be in terms of play calling and in terms of being a director out there on the field. Now, you mentioned the coaching staff, and I'm glad that you did, because the one thing that the Patriots did lack on the defensive side of the ball was continuity when it came to a play caller we hear a lot that on certain days Steve Belichick was calling the plays and then on certain days Gerard Mayo was calling the plays and players felt a little confused down the stretch as to what they should be doing who they should be listening to they knew that on a given day, if this guy had the command, that's who they have to go to.
Starting point is 00:20:26 But continuity and repetition is so important on the defensive side of the ball, especially when you're looking at the front seven. To me, it's just it's one of those things that needs to be addressed somehow. You're going to give the keys to the command to Steve Belichick or Gerard Mayo or whoever it happens to be. Maybe Bill Belichick himself. This Mayo or whoever it happens to be. Maybe Bill Belichick himself. This is a decision, I think, that has to be made. And these guys have to have some sort of continuity out there. So I would say speed is need one.
Starting point is 00:20:56 One A is continuity. And that includes the coaching staff as well. And I'm glad that you mentioned the cornerback position, because to me, that is another area that the Patriots have to address. J.C. Jackson, I'm considering that an independent issue because you're talking about whether or not you're going to invest in J.C. as your number one corner for years to come if you decide to sign him to an extension. Players don't like that franchise tag, Claire. We hear it an awful lot. Fans often use that and say, okay, well, that's just the cure all. And that's exactly how it's going to work.
Starting point is 00:21:29 It doesn't quite work like that because of the player preference. But our man Miguel is the best in the business of laying out the scenario and how that could happen. And Miguel is going to be joining me here on the airwaves shortly on Locked On Patriots to discuss all of this in depth, especially what the deal may look like for J.C. Jackson if the Patriots do that. But if they decide to move in a different direction, then that becomes a real position of need for the Pats, because not only are you letting go of your top guy at the position, you're also giving way to a position right now that doesn't have a whole lot of depth beyond Jalen Mills at the starting position. Jawan Williams has not proven he's ready for prime time, in my opinion.
Starting point is 00:22:10 Sean Wade is still developing really a redshirt season for him, a lot of injuries and really didn't see the field all that much. So when you look at guys that may be able to take that step, Jonathan Jones will be back in the slot. But how effective is he going to be after his surgery, after his injury? You know, they're all different ways to look at this position right now. Patriots definitely have their work cut out for them. There's no question about it. And to me, that is one of the biggest needs, but we are in agreement as the Patriots top need, and that is the need for speed when it comes to the linebacking and the front seven position. I don't want to just put this on the linebackers because the front seven was often out of position as well. Christian Barmore down the stretch was injured. He didn't have that same push to the pocket. Because of that, it allowed offensive linemen to be able to block, to be able
Starting point is 00:23:00 to keep him contained and neutralize Matt Judon. One of the reasons why Judon was so effective during that seven game win streak for the Patriots is because Barmore was taking on the double team. When you take on the double team like that, it frees up a defender to be able to get after the quarterback and rush the passer. Judon had that. He was one of the quickest and one of the best at being able to do it, got after the quarterback and showed tremendous prowess. When all of a sudden, Barmore wasn't commanding that attention anymore, that attention is going to be focused on Judon, and it slowed him down a bit. And I don't think you can blame Matt for that.
Starting point is 00:23:35 That's simply just the way football works. And I think he tried his best to weather through it. But at the same time, when you're facing more defenders and you're facing more fearsome defenders, it's going to make you doing your job that much more difficult. So speed and athleticism on the front seven is exactly what the Patriots need on defense. But if they're going to hope to win, they're going to put points on the board, something that the Patriots struggled a little bit with during 2021. Overall, a better offensive year last year than in 2020. But there's still a ways to go.
Starting point is 00:24:06 What is priority one for the Patriots offense? I will discuss that with the Countess of Clas herself, Ms. Claire Clasic-Claire Cooper, when this Wednesday episode of the Locked On Patriots podcast continues. Locked On listeners, it is the new year. So you know what that means. That's right. New Year's resolutions. If yours is about getting fit or eating healthier make sure that you include built bar into your plan built bar is the protein bar that tastes like a candy bar maybe even better than a candy bar folks i can tell you from personal experience they've replaced all the candy in my household built bar makes it easy to stick to your new year's resolutions because it tastes so good. You'll want to eat it. Unlike other protein bars, which can be chalky or waxy or taste like a chemical spill,
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Starting point is 00:26:40 Now, you know what the hell with that. I'm going to mention them anyway. The Queen of TE. The Baroness of Lockers. The Principal of TE, the baroness of blockers, the principal of positivity, the lady of lockdown, the countess of class herself. Miss Claire, classy Claire Cooper joins me here on the pod. And Claire, it's always an honor to join you here on a Wednesday talking football. We talked a lot about the Patriots defense in the opening segment, but if we're being honest, you know, points on the board is what the fans want to see. They want that offense. They want to see touchdowns. I'm not knocking the fans for that. Everybody wants to see them. It's how you win the game. I don't think that should be something that they should want to see. But the New England Patriots have always done that in a little bit of a different fashion than the fans may have liked to have seen it.
Starting point is 00:27:30 It's been a long time since the Patriots have had that true bona fide number one, take the top off the defense wide receiver. You know, the fans are not happy about it. But in the span that we're talking about, the Patriots have had pretty decent success. So if it ain't broke, don't fix it. But the Patriots may have to fix it whether they want to or not, because Josh McDaniels, the architect of some of those offenses, is now in Las Vegas. He takes a number of offensive coaches with him, including Mick Lombardi with the wide receivers, Bo Hardigree with the quarterbacks. He's got, you know, they're just Carmen Brasillo now with the offensive line. There's a lot now that the Patriots will have to replace.
Starting point is 00:28:11 The O-line had some injuries. There's no question about it. Overall, I think they had a pretty good season. I thought they were a little bit better in 2020. I thought there was more continuity. But at the same time, I think the Patriots personnel was much better in 2021. It's just they had some difficulty in terms of guys being in flux early on. But once they figured it out, that offensive line played as well as any unit in the league.
Starting point is 00:28:35 Wide receivers are going to constantly continue to be maligned because they're not putting up the gaudy numbers that everybody wants to see them put up. Tight endage. That's your area of expertise, Claire. And the Patriots are just fine in that department, folks. Hunter Henry had a tremendous season. He'll continue to do that. I think Jono is on the verge of making those strides and steps that he needs to to fit into the Patriots offense a little bit better. I think they're fine in that regard. And the running backs. I think the Patriots running backs right now, they have as good a one-two punch and a one-two combination as anybody in the league right now with Damian Harris and Ramondre Stevenson. So now that we've taken a look at the Patriots offense in a capsule, and we haven't even mentioned Mac Jones in the quarterback position, we're in agreement that the Patriots do need to do more
Starting point is 00:29:26 in order to be able to move forward in 2022 Claire you're the GM of the New England Patriots where do you start in terms of trying to upgrade this offense what's priority one to move the Patriots offense to that next level in 2022 oh well my answer is obvious priority one i am gm i'm going out and getting myself pat frameth from the steelers now i had to get you know there was a part of me that was hoping that you were going to say that it really really was but no in all seriousness um in regards to the offense, I do, I have to sort of semi-disagree with you. And when it comes to initially, the first thing on my list, not as in the first thing as in most important, but one of something that I think is a sneaky thing is actually running backs.
Starting point is 00:30:17 And I don't mean the running back as in, as you said, Damien Harris, Rondre Stevenson, really good, solid players. And I actually think JJ Taylor might have something but that's uncertain now but I think that the one thing that is a slight cause for concern in that room is the fact that James White and Brandon Bolden could both go now I know that a lot of that is more significant kind of to special teams and things like this and I appreciate that and then a lot of people are sitting there saying yeah but they're old they should go and this that and the other we want youth we want speed and things like this and I appreciate all of that the thing that James White and Brandon Brolden do bring to the offense as a whole do bring to the team is the veteran presence that behind the scenes stability and also the reliability they're those guys that they go to
Starting point is 00:31:06 in a pinch now it hasn't always been successful I know that Brandon Bolden really did step up this year but there were some times that he was kind of used as a bit of a binky and it was a bit unsuccessful and I appreciate that you know that can't happen you need a very free-flowing offense that kind of thing but I think to lose both of them is going to hit the team hard in ways that maybe are a little bit less obvious than just the basic running game as we see it so that was my sneaky kind of not concern that's too you know too strong of a word but my sneaky sort of issue with that with the offense is that that section of the running back court now there's an argument for the offense is like on coaching and I know that you talked about that
Starting point is 00:31:51 and we're not really going to go into coaching staff but I did kind of it is still for me a point of concern on the offense is losing McDaniels was of course seriously significant and then the reduction in the supporting staff like Lombardi and that kind of thing for me the sort of worry in regard to the staff isn't just like the mass exodus of the fact that they're leaving and this that and the other it's what's around Mac Jones in his second year now as a Patriots fan I just you know he is my quarterback you know he's my quarterback for the future that kind of thing that I that is how I see him I am a big Mac Jones fan and I have been you know since we drafted him but it's the the worry of how it will affect his development going forward now if he's a really good NFL player and we've been told or I've heard that the the sort of the playbook and things like this should
Starting point is 00:32:47 all be the same coaches won't come into the Patriots offense expecting to bring their own flair because it's what the Patriots have is already there and that's how it's kind of working so these coaches should expect to come in to do their job well but to do the job the way that Bill Belichick sort of sees it that kind of thing because it's a successful you know procedure process you know situation to walk into so that in itself is is a big concern for me is just that who they put around Matt Jones knows the system or is happy to work with the system doesn't try and you know move outside of the box when Mac Jones needs the stability of what he's learning what he's already learned that kind of thing so I the worries you ruin your quarterback in his second year and you know you know you ruin
Starting point is 00:33:40 your the your future as a franchise that kind of thing so that's why to me the coaching still had to have although I know we're not really going into it still had to have a mention because it is still sort of in that way significant with the offensive line I think it's important to increase the the strength there now Trent Brown and Ted Karras were integral pieces, and I think it's difficult if they lose them both. Now, I know Trent Brown was only on a year contract anyway, and I know that he had injury issues and things like this. But when he was absent, you sort of saw it. Now, if he's not going to be retained for another year and I can understand why they wouldn't because you had him for a year and he had injury problems and stuff like this and
Starting point is 00:34:31 again you you're aging your your team in regards to that so they might want new fresh blood and that's fair enough I just hope they're able to replace him with someone that can bring that sort of that same sort of strength to the position now caris i feel he brought extra stability to the o-line itself now i know just like alone he wasn't the you know the biggest superstar there sort of thing but i i just felt like as soon as they had him in it just really seemed to interlock more. I mean, I'm not sure which position specifically on the O-line that you could say is the most important, because I know they move on when you were around. So it's a case of where are they going to keep him, where are they going to use him the most where is his biggest strength and and if that leaves a hole elsewhere it's difficult to literally sort of choose which one is is going to be vacant
Starting point is 00:35:33 in all fairness because you don't actually sort of know what they want to do with him in in that regard maintaining stability within the line itself i think is just the priority and I don't think it sort of matters as in specific positions it's just that stability that they had that they got to maintain because you've seen how weakened they could be this season and it was a grave concern when you've got a rookie quarterback and I mean okay he's not a rookie now because he's going into his second year but it's still of a grave concern I mean to hop back to the Super Bowl I know it's like in the rearview mirror and all this but Joe Burrow I mean to me he deserves some kind of accolades just for putting up with hitting the floor so many times that dude was sacked so much this season I think it was I think he was sacked 55 times in the regular
Starting point is 00:36:26 season my numbers might be wrong because I don't have them in front of me but you don't you don't you don't want that as a quarterback full stop rookie whatever regardless you just don't want that and I think that that's they need to make sure that they they don't develop into anything of that sort of nature so at the moment it's a tie between staff and the offensive line for me for what area is the most significant of need hopefully as the months and weeks move on we'll perhaps find out more so what is happening with the coaching room maybe see a few more moves I know that they've brought Joe judging but there's still not sort of that distinction between who's calling plays
Starting point is 00:37:05 who the offensive coordinator is that kind of heck they haven't even got the distinction on defense and they've got loads of people so we may never really know but as long as they know as I said that that's the most important thing so I think over time that's going to sort of iron itself out and it will get to the stage where we can not be too worried about it and Bill knows what he's doing that sort of thing so kind of once that's happened for me just to say what the offense needs is going to be o-line stability maintaining that o-line stability bringing guys back if that needs be plugging a few new guys in and that's fine it's as long as you get that line working and clicking together and staying strong and protecting the court about that kind of thing, then that's what's going to be key.
Starting point is 00:37:49 And I think that's definitely what they need to make sure that they're looking at going into kind of free agency draft, that sort of thing. We're in complete agreement today. I think in a lot of ways, a lot of people are going to be on board with our assessment, but I think you're right on the money. My priority one is maintaining stability on the offensive line, because to me, that's exactly what Mac Jones is going to need. He's going to have a new offensive coordinator, whether that means someone with the official title or whether that means that type of committee role that we're hearing a lot about how the Patriots might attack this and they might go at it. Having Joe judge play a major role in that, that we're hearing a lot about how the Patriots might attack this and they might go at it having
Starting point is 00:38:25 Joe Judge play a major role in that having someone like a Matt Patricia play a major role in that and I know that makes a lot of our fan base cringe right now but these are things that are being discussed um Tom Curran someone you and I know very well uh went on uh Gresham Keep yesterday on WEI and said that Billy O'rien is not necessarily a dead issue the new england patriots and uh you know they continue to be rumored uh to have interest and he continues to be rumored to have interest there there's not a lot of fire coming from the smoke though anywhere from foxborough it's not coming from the team so this is all periphery type outskirt information rather than inside information. But that is still very much out there.
Starting point is 00:39:09 And it is possible that Billy O'Brien may end up coming back. And if that's the case, you're going to give Mac Jones that type of tutor that he'll need to take that next step. But ultimately, Mac has to make the plays on the field, regardless of who's working with him. It may even be Belichick himself that takes a more active interest in trying to develop Mac Jones as a quarterback this year. But he has to make those plays on the field. And in order to do that, he has to remain upright and he has to get the time to be able to make the reads he needs.
Starting point is 00:39:38 When Mac struggled this year, he struggled because blitzes came from the second and third level of the opposing defenses. That means the linebackers. That means the secondary and the safeties. When they're throwing that type of pressure at Mac Jones, he had trouble picking it up. Some of that was on Mac and he has to work through that. But some of it was on difficulties and miscommunications along the offensive line, riding, you know, lining up, you know, the wrong way, riding the wrong way on a certain or leaning the wrong way on a certain break. These are the types of things that the Patriots need to shore up. And when they have a little bit more continuity on the line, it's only going to help them do that. Whether it be Michael Wainu or whether it be, you know, Shaq Mason or Trent Brown, if they do decide to bring him back, we're hearing mixed
Starting point is 00:40:22 things from Foxborough that there is significant mutual interest, both in Brown and on the Patriots side. On the left side of the ball, is Isaiah Wynn still the guy that you want? Do you look to cut your losses after picking up a pretty hefty option and say, you know what, this is not working out. We may have to go in a different direction and we may have to seek a trade. That offensive line may have a different look next year. And if it does, Matt needs the continuity and he needs the stability to be able to stay upright.
Starting point is 00:40:51 So to me, that's priority one. That's a much bigger priority both in the slot first and on the outside when you absolutely need it. That's where this offense is at its best. This is not a take the top of the defense off offense. It just never has been under the New England Patriots, save for the time where you had a guy like Randy Moss out there. If you can bring in a Randy Moss-like player, then you, Taylor, make the offense to work within his strengths. But I don't see the Patriots pulling that type of move this year. I just don't. I think it's significant that the Patriots have actually got some players on offense.
Starting point is 00:41:40 They've got good tight ends. They've got good wide receivers. I think they've got, you know, good tight ends. They've got good wide receivers. I think they've got enough quality there. Although they haven't got this, in adversity commas, wide receiver one, I get it. You know, they haven't got that. But I think they've got enough on offense that if the offensive line can keep Mack safe, can give him the time, you know,
Starting point is 00:41:59 he can develop through his reads, that kind of thing. The talent that's on the other end of the ball is less of significant if he's not getting the ball out if he hasn't got an o-line to you know to protect him so he can get the ball out it doesn't matter who he's throwing it to because he can't get it out there in the first place so I think they need to look at that as you said the front seven first before we start worrying about oh well we haven't got a wide receiver it just feels like that's not really the biggest need because they've got some quality players on offense if they can just
Starting point is 00:42:36 get that motion get that stability give Mac that bit of time I think you'll see from the offense that they do have that we have some quality players that, you know, are really up there that can really produce. It's just getting everything settled, everything clicked together from the motion of defending Matt to getting the ball out, that kind of thing. Yeah, absolutely. And that works hand in hand with the other point that you made, which I thought was an amazingly great point, was a third down running back. And that's exactly what the Patriots right now on this roster technically do lack. I mean, yes, I know Brandon Bolden, James White are a part of this team, but they're both headed for free agency. James White coming off of a very significant injury. You don't know what type of condition he's going to be in or if he's going to want to put his body through the rigors of coming back
Starting point is 00:43:30 for one more year. Retirement rumors surrounded him last offseason before he signed with the Patriots in return. So there are a lot of different ways that could go. Bolden is someone I would love to see back because he is that Swiss Army knife that just can do it all in terms of special teams, being an effective runner and then catching the ball out of the backfield. But there's no guarantee that Brandon is going to come back. He may go out on the open market and decide that he can make a lot more elsewhere than he could here in New England. And it's happened in the past. You know, the Patriots cut him loose. He went down to Miami, had a good season, ended up back here, but there's no guarantee Brandon ends up coming back either. So what do you do if you're the New England Patriots? Do you look to someone in the draft? There are several
Starting point is 00:44:13 running backs out there that are capable of receiving out of the backfield. The way the college game is built, there are a good amount of those guys in the draft this year. Not a whole lot of top elite talent at that position, but a lot of guys that can effectively do the role. So we'll be scouting that most, you know, definitely here on lockdown Patriots. But Claire, I thought that was an excellent, excellent point. And I think something that Patriots fans do need to keep a sharp eye on. If I'm the New England Patriots right now, I'm in complete agreement with Claire. Priority one on the field, keep jones protected by a stout offensive line two you got to address the third down running back position because to me that's one of the
Starting point is 00:44:51 most vital pieces of the patriots offensive skill in terms of scoring offense that is what makes this offense go and even if a guy like bill o'brien comes back here or even if they do end up going with joe judge being the main voice on, or even if they do end up going with Joe Judge being the main voice on offense, or even if it's Bill Belichick, this is their modus operandi. This is how they do what they do. And it opens up play action for the short passing game. That to me is how you build a strong offense for the New England Patriots in 2022. Claire, what can I say? It's been a blast. These times always fly by on Wednesdays. We love having you on the insight, the wit, the wisdom, the giggle, the accent. We love it all. But
Starting point is 00:45:32 the insight that you provided today on Patriots, you know, priorities, whether it be on offense or whether it be on defense heading into the off season, in my opinion, spot on. And I say spot on folks because she agreed with me. No, I'm only kidding. I'm just joking. No, all kidding aside, I am the one agreeing with her. I am the one agreeing with her expert analysis, and I'm happy to say that I was
Starting point is 00:45:56 like-minded to some very good ideas. That honor is mine, not hers this time. Claire, again, we love having you on here every single Wednesday. You are the lady of Locked On, but you're so much more involved with Patriots media than just our appearance here on Locked On Patriots. We want our listeners to have a well-rounded background, and they should be paying attention
Starting point is 00:46:19 to everything and anything and everything that you do in the world of sports media. Please let our listeners know where they can find you, your great work, and what we can look forward to in the coming days and weeks from the great pen and the great voice of Claire, Lassie Claire Cooper. Of course, where you can find me at patspropaganda.com. That's where my writing normally is. Last season, the season we've just finished,
Starting point is 00:46:41 I was a game recapper. So hopefully that will be what's coming next season. But keep your eyes peeled for kind of off-season content, that kind of thing, from myself and Tom. So that's patspropaganda.com. I am the third voice, as you like to say, of One Patriot's Place with Steve Balistreri and Thomas Murphy. And we are here for you each and every week, courtesy of E2G Sports. And we have now gone live. So you can see our lovely faces as well
Starting point is 00:47:05 if you really really want to so you can catch that once once a week you can get us and of course full press coverage where i started so that's where you'll find some of my articles but most importantly that's where you'll find my podcast eclair perspective and last week's episode is still available most places you download your podcast with the lovely Andy Hart of WEI. And look out for next week. My episode should drop sometime mid next week where I will also be celebrating my one year anniversary of a Claire perspective. So I hope that you will keep your eyes and ears peeled for that, too. Absolutely. And Claire just reminded me of something I had lost sight on. It
Starting point is 00:47:46 is going to be a year that she has been hosting her great podcast. I know I talk a lot about it, folks, please. I encourage you to check it out. And I say that sincerely. Claire's listen, the listen that she provides, I should say, is tremendous from start to finish. Her episode with Andy is up there right now. Andy is one of the more well-respected journalists in our business and they really do put out a great listen. So definitely check that out. Continue to check out all of the great work that Claire does for PatsPropaganda.com,
Starting point is 00:48:14 FullPressCoverage.com, and definitely check her out here each and every Wednesday. Next week, Locked on Patriots goes visual, Claire. So we'll find a way to... Do my hair. Put my makeup on.
Starting point is 00:48:28 I'm not going to go that far. I'll at least look somewhat presentable or as presentable as I possibly can. I do warn you folks, you may have to avert your eyes. This will be a difficult thing for us all. But we'll get through it and I'll find some way to make it aesthetically pleasing. I have my ways of doing so. In any case, Claire,
Starting point is 00:48:50 now thank you for coming on today, for joining me here on Lockdown Patriots. We look forward to next week, but in the meantime, please stay safe, stay well. And once again, we appreciate all of the wisdom and counsel you lend
Starting point is 00:49:02 as only you can lend it right here on the Lockdown Patriots podcast. Oh, you're welcome. Thank you so much for having me, Mike. And thanks everybody for listening. And I guess I'll see you next Wednesday. Absolutely. Next Wednesday. Just like that, Patriots fans, we are more than halfway through your work week, but fear not, because we're still just scratching the surface when it comes to your Patriots coverage for this week and beyond. A lot of draft coverage to come. Free agency, you name it, we're covering it here on Locked on Patriots. So, to ensure that you do not miss a single second of the action,
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Starting point is 00:50:03 Once again, my name is Mike DeBate. I thank my good friend Claire Klazzi Claire Cooper for her time, her insight, and her appearance on today's pod. But most of all, I thank you so much for listening and for continuing to make Lockdown Patriots a daily part of your New England Patriots coverage.
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