Locked On Patriots - Daily Podcast On The New England Patriots - Shedeur Sanders Is The KEY Player To The 2025 New England Patriots NFL Draft

Episode Date: April 7, 2025

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Should Err Sanders is the key to the 2025 NFL draft for the New England Patriots? Did Sanders hurt or help his chances at his pro day of landing in the top three? That's where we start on this episode of Locked On Patriots. You are Locked On Patriots, your daily New England Patriots podcast, Patriots, your daily New England Patriots podcast, part of the Locked On Podcast Network, your team every day. What's up, Patriots fans? I'm your host, Nick Cattles, born and raised in New England, your New England Patriots expert, host of the Everything Pats podcast, co-host, the Greg Bedard Patriots podcast with Nick Cattles, and also a sports

talk show host, veteran of many years. On today's show, could Browns owner Jimmy Haslam help the Patriots land a blue chip prospect in this year's draft? Also, how are the vibes over at Gillette? We'll get to those answers, but we start with Chider Sanders pro day and what that might have meant

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MonarchMoney.com for 50% off your first year. All right. Shadr Sanders is the most important player in the 2025 draft for the New England Patriots. That's right. I said for the New England Patriots, the Patriots are not drafting Shadr Sanders. They have no interest in a quarterback. They don't want a quarterback. They're not going to draft a quarterback at number four overall. We all know that, but Shadr Sanders being drafted in the top three, if that were to happen, absolutely critical to the Patriots operation on draft

night during round one. Because if Sanders can go in the top three, that leaves the Patriots with a choice of either Travis Hunter or Abdul Carter, whoever falls to them. We all know that Cam Ward is going to go number one to the Tennessee Titans. We understand that. We get that, we get that. So if Cam Ward goes number one, and Sanders goes to Cleveland, for example, Patriots can sit back, relax, and wait to see who falls to them at number four. There are really only two blue chip players in this draft.

You might be able to say three with Ashton Gentry, but many people feel very confident that Abdul Carter and Travis Hunter are the two best players in this draft. They are the two blue chip prospects. So did Chedurah Sanders do enough at his pro day to maybe win over the Browns or Giants, to pick him at two or three, which would lead the Patriots to Hunter or Carter? Tony Pauline, Sportskeeda wrote this about Sanders pro day. Everyone I spoke with

praised Sanders throwing workout. Few wobbly passes, approximately three misses, but overall he looked good. Those on hand tell me that Sanders threw several terrific deep balls and overouts, nicely placing throws into the wide outs hands and those wide outs not named Hunter really stood out Friday. Eric at home of NFL.com wrote about Sanders pro day. He wrote that he might've been at his best Friday throwing the ball vertically, which is interesting because many people were questioning whether or not should our Sanders could throw the deep ball accurately, consistently at home rights.

Some of Sanders throws had a little wobble to them. Brian Baldinger, the NFL network noted that there was more zip on Cam Ward's football during Miami's pro day. That should not be a surprise. Cam Ward has a stronger arm than Sanders. But Sanders' deep shots, writes at home, between the numbers were tighter and cleaner than expected, as if he had been working hard on getting that part of his game right prior to this showcase event. Evaluators should take note.

Yes, Sanders is expected to have his ducks in order prior to the biggest job interview of his life, but it's notable that he clearly prepared and executed those well. The throws outside the numbers tended to have more of that wobble in them. Only a few of those passes were clearly off target, including the red zone throw toward the end of the session. But QB needy teams picking at the top of the draft, Wink Wink, Cleveland, New York, are going to take note of those details too. Did Sanders change his draft narrative? That's hard to say. The clean throws on deep shots and

in-breaking routes helped. Some of the short and outside numbers, which were less tight and clean, left some of the same questions that existed prior to Friday. With NFL eyes on him, Sanders did not do anything to unexpectedly hurt himself, and he might have helped convince some teams he's capable of being a starting quarterback one day by answering some of the deep ball questions. So Sanders certainly was not awesome on Friday, and I did not expect Sanders to be awesome on Friday. I don't think Shadur Sanders is going to leap into the top three if he was outside the top three based on his pro day. He's not that kind of quarterback.

He does not have elite physical traits. When we talked about Drake May last year during the process heading into the draft, we talked about elite traits. We talked about a very, very good arm. We talked about athleticism for a guy his size. Drake may had some really, really good, if not elite physical traits, physical traits that would lend themselves to a guy who would end up being a future franchise QB one. Sanders does not have those elite physical traits. He doesn't have a big frame. He's not super athletic. And he does not have those elite physical traits. He doesn't have a big frame.

He's not super athletic. And he does not have a cannon for an arm. So for guys like that, it's difficult to make their mark at a pro day. It's difficult to make their mark at a combine. Because when we're talking about combine, we're talking about pro day, we're talking about traits. We're talking about athleticism. We're talking about wowing the coaching staffs in front offices.

And that's not the type of player that Shider or Sanders is. He's an ultimate film guy. He's accurate. He processes well. He does throw the football well on the move, off platform. So those are the types of things that Sanders can do well. And when you're throwing to receivers without defenders, it doesn't really matter right? Somebody will say of course he made a great throw rolling out to his right to that receiver 15-20 yards downfield because he didn't have anybody pressuring him there were no defensive backs no safeties easy peasy no big deal but let's not forget Sanders does not have to be awesome to

be drafted in the top three. The quarterback position, it's all relative. In more than any other position in football, quarterback is about eye of the beholder. If Kevin Stefanski loves something about Shadriss Sanders, the Browns could pick him at two. If Jimmy Haslam loves himself some Shadriss Sanders, the Browns could pick him at two. Even if he's not great, even if he's not quote unquote blue chip,

Kim Ward is not a top five to ten prospect in this draft, but he's going to go number one overall simply because he plays the quarterback position. An above average quarterback matters. An above average quarterback will get you wins consistently in the NFL if the rest of your system is working, if it's operating good enough. You're not going to win consistently at that level if you don't have an above average quarterback. And so the Patriots, they're sitting there at number four and they're hoping, they're hoping that the desperation and the love of the quarterback position is going to help

them secure either Travis Hunter or Abdul Carter at number four. For Sanders, I think the meetings were more important. And we don't know what happened at these meetings, at these dinners. Did Sanders win the room, so to speak? Did he win over ownership? Did he win over front offices? Did he win over coaching staffs? Todd McShea of the Ringer, he wrote, going back a few weeks ago, that Sanders did not necessarily win many teams over at the combine with his interviews. So did Sanders win the room over,

aside from what he did at his pro day? This is huge. If you're the Patriots, if you're a Patriots fan like you are, you're crossing your fingers that Chedurah Sanders did something, something that was good enough, at a high enough level, Patriots fan like you are, you're crossing your fingers that Chaudhuri Sanders did something, something that was good enough at a high enough level that won over the Browns or the Giants. Because if he did that, if he succeeded in that task, that means as Patriots fans, you

should get ready for one of Carter or Hunter, one of the two blue chip prospects in this draft heading your way at number four. If Sanders failed to do that last Friday and failed to do that at his meetings, no bueno. You don't feel as good about the Patriots situation at number four. So keep those fingers crossed. Speaking of crossing our fingers, why should Patriots fans be crossing their fingers that Browns owner Jimmy Haslam gets in the way of his team's draft?

We've got that coming up next as we continue on with today's episode of Lockdown Patriots, part of the Lockdown Podcast Network, your team every day. This is a message from sponsor Intuit Turbo Tax. Taxes was waiting and wondering and worrying if you were going to get any money back and then waiting and worrying and wondering some more. Now taxes is matching with a Turbo Tax expert who could do your taxes as soon as today. An expert who gives your taxes their undivided attention as they work on your return while you get real time updates on their progress so as they work on your return while you get real-time updates on

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Jimmy Haslam was at Colorado's Pro Day. And that is a critical development, my friends, because why would an owner show up to a Pro Day? I'll tell you why an owner would show up to a Pro Day. Because he's trying to figure out whether or not a quarterback is worthwhile of drafting. That's why every single owner in the league has something to say about who their team is going to draft and why they're going to draft that guy. Don't get it twisted, especially when you talk about the first round, especially when

you talk about the quarterback position. So Jimmy Haslam being at Colorado's pro Day could absolutely be critical to the New England Patriots because Haslam was there to talk and to watch about and to Chaudhry Sanders. Now of course he watched Travis Hunter. I'm sure he had a conversation with Travis Hunter along the way, but his visit to the Pro Day had everything to do with Chaudhier Sanders. And it doesn't necessarily matter if Kevin Stefanski loves Sanders. It doesn't even matter if Andrew Berry loves Sanders because if Jimmy Haslam wants to meddle, if he wants to jump in the middle of the mess and say,

no, no, no, this is what's going to happen. We are drafting Chaudhider Sanders at number two. The team is going to draft Chider Sanders at number two because it is the coach's job. It is the GM's job to keep the owner happy. If you don't keep the owner happy, then you're going to be gone sooner rather than later. And Cleveland is desperate here. Kevin Stefanski is fighting for his job. Andrew Berry is fighting for his job. Andrew Berry is fighting for his job.

They know that. And they're not gonna win football games consistently unless they figure out the quarterback position. Deshaun Watson was a swing and a miss. Big time swing and a miss. Browns know that. Jimmy Haslam certainly knows that. He talked about it over the last week or two saying he's accountable for the miss. He's accountable for you

know that contract and the trade for Deshaun Watson. And so now here's the question if if you're a Patriots fan here's the question that I posed to you about Cleveland's situation. Do you think if if the Patriots were in this same situation as the Cleveland Browns are? Would you want to tie your hopes to the 2025 season with Kirk Cousins? Would you want Kirk Cousins to be your answer? Now the Cleveland Browns might be interested in Kirk Cousins. They might want to trade for Kirk Cousins and eventually they might interested in Kirk Cousins. They might want to trade for Kirk Cousins.

And eventually they might trade for Kirk Cousins. But is Cousins good enough? Is he healthy enough? Did you see anything from Kirk Cousins last year with Atlanta as he fell on his face and was benched? If you are Kevin Stefanski, if you are Andrew Berry, if you're even Jimmy Haslam, do you want to put Kirk Cousins in the position to save your 2025? To maybe get you to the playoffs? I wouldn't. I would not tie my hopes to Kirk Cousins.

So what's Cleveland thinking? And how much of a heavy hand is Jimmy Haslam going to have? Because I'll tell you what, the Patriots, I think they want Jimmy Haslam to have a heavy hand because he's more inclined to say we need the quarterback. I need somebody as an owner to sell jerseys, get people excited because if we stink at the beginning of the year, if we end up signing, I mean, trading for Kirk Cousins, bringing him into the program and he ends up being terrible, I mean trading for Kirk Cousins, bringing him into the program and he ends up being terrible, we have nothing to sell to the fans about the future of this football team. If you draft Shadr standards at number two and Cousins is not good, at least you have

the hope to sell fans that Shadr Sanders is the answer to all of the problems and questions that you may have. And Sanders is a perfect fit for Cleveland. Matt Bowen wrote about it at ESPN. Here's what he wrote in part, Sanders is accurate, plays with poise, shows toughness in the pocket. I see him as a smart fit

for Kevin Stefanski's offensive structure. The Browns could mirror their run and pass games to set Sanders up with play action opportunities, which in turn create timing throws. That's a foundational part of the Browns offense. He could produce in a Brown system that would maximize his traits. Kevin Stefanski doesn't need somebody

who has elite physical traits to be good at the quarterback position for him. He has proven that in the past. He needs somebody who's accurate. He needs somebody who's accurate. He needs somebody who processes well. And you feel like Shadr Sanders could be that guy. But do the Cleveland Browns believe in Sanders enough to take him at two? If they do, jackpot for the Patriots. If they don't, big question mark for the Patriots at number four.

Do they truly believe in him enough? Did Sanders sell himself to Jimmy Haslam sitting down at dinner? Did Haslam walk away from the Colorado Pro Day thinking to himself, I've got to talk to Berrien Stefanski because that's the guy we've got to draft. I know we're all excited about Travis Hunter and he could be good, but Travis Hunter is not a quarterback. He plays both sides of the football. A wide receiver, he could play quarterback, but he ain't playing quarterback for us. So did Shadr Sanders sell himself enough?

But here's a silver lining. Let's say Sanders did not sell himself to Cleveland. Let's say Jimmy Haslam didn't walk away feeling like he had to bring Sanders into the mix, that he had to talk to his coach and his GM. Cleveland could still help the Patri GM. Cleveland could still help the Patriots. They could still help the Patriots. Jeff Howe of the Athletic wrote this about Travis Hunter and the Browns. There's a growing belief around the league that Hunter is the favorite to go to the Browns with the number two pick according to high ranking executives

and coaches. The Browns have been high on Hunter throughout the process, according to sources. And as he went through his routeoutetree Friday during warm-ups, Andrew Berry watched intently from 10 yards away. So here's the thing I want all of us to think about. Let's say that Shadr Sanders doesn't go number two to the Browns. Let's say Hunter goes to the Browns at number two. That could still help New England. How? How, Nick? How could that help New England? Well, first of all, Sanders could end up getting drafted by the Giants. But if the Giants are not necessarily interested in Chedur Sanders' business, would they draft Abdul Carter? Now, it seems like a no-brainer, right? It seems like an obvious

choice. Are you going to draft Mason Graham or somebody else over Abdul Carter? It might even sound borderline absurd on the surface. But when you think about it, and when you think about the Giants situation, the Giants have put a ton of money and draft capital into the pass rush position. They've got Burns, they've got Dibbido,

they've got two guys that they have spent picks on and spent money on for their pass rush. Do you invest even more money? Do you invest a top three pick in that same position? If you believe you already have two established pass rushers that could be two of the best pass rushes in football. Are you going to draft Abdul Carter? Or do you pick somebody else? Or do you put that number three pick up for sale for a team to move up and then the Patriots could get involved? I don't think it's a fait accompli. I don't think it's a fait accompli that the Giants would draft Abdul Carter

if Hunter went number two to the Cleveland Browns. The Giants would have to think long and hard about that. to draft Abdul Carter if Hunter went number two to the Cleveland Browns? The Giants would have to think long and hard about that. And it's a very difficult question because Carter is a tremendous talent. He's one of two or three blue chip guys in this draft and he's sitting there for you at three. But you know that you already drafted a pass rush on the top five or six a few years ago and

you just made a big deal for Burns and gave him a contract. Do you think John Maura, the owner of the Giants, would be thrilled with drafting Abdul Carter and paying him a ton of money when he gave the okay to pay a ton of money to Burns and when the front office already sold him on the pass rushing specialist prospect from a few years ago. Do you think John Marrow, the owner of the Giants is going to be in love with that idea? I'm not so sure. I am not so sure.

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code locked on NFL for half off your first year. Nothing but good vibes. Nothing but good vibes for Mike Vrabel quickly turning the culture around at Gillette Stadium in that facility, a tangible feel of a legitimate program. Here's what Mike Giardi of Boston Sports Journal recently wrote about Mike Vrabel and the vibes. The vibes. If you're a fan of vibes, they've been great at Patriot Place since Vrabel walked in the door. A year ago,

there was a lot of uncertainty about going from Belichick to Mayo. There is none of that now. It's Vrebel's house now, and there is an urgency even in the spring that wasn't felt a year ago. The Pats still need more players, but the floor no longer starts in the basement. The floor no longer starts in the basement. I don't want to sit here and disparage Gerard Mayo and throw dirt on the head coach career of Gerard Mayo. We haven't even heard from Mayo since he was relieved of his duties. I want to focus on Mike Vrabel

and I want to focus on why the vibes are good. Vibes tend to be good when you're confident. Vibes tend to be good when you're confident. Vibes tend to be good when you're optimistic. Vibes tend to be very good when you believe. And when you look at Mike Vrabel and his impact on this program, I think you start to see why. We start with the experience. You can believe, I can believe, we all can believe that Mike Vrabel has the experience because we've seen it. I can believe we all can believe that Mike Vrabel has the experience because we've seen it He understands what kind of day-to-day plan he's got to put together as a head coach

He understands the intricate details that have to be paid attention to to make sure that you're gonna get the most out of your guys every single day whether it's OTAs mandatory minicamp, minicamp, joint practices, he understands the day to day plan, how to put it together and get the most out of his guys. He also understands how to handle his staff. These are things that Gerard Mayo just didn't know. He had never been a head coach before, right?

He didn't really know what his program was going to be day to day. He might've thought he knew. But as you get started, man oh man, remember he said something along the lines of like it was like drinking water out of a water hose and just blasting at you. A lot was happening in a short amount of time.

So the day to day plan, the handling of the coaching staff, understanding how to handle each personality, communicating with that staff, understanding, realizing, acknowledging what needs to be done, how it can get done, and how you can work collectively as a unit to make it work. Mike Vrabel knows all of that. Mike Vrabel knows how to set a vision for the front office.

Sitting down with Ellie Wolf, he knows exactly what type of player profile that he wants on the field for each and every single position. He sets the standard because he's coached players, all different sizes and weights and lengths and all of that. He understands precisely what he wants at each and every position on the field. And that helps setting a vision for the front office.

That's something that Gerard Mayo might not necessarily know, not at every single position. He might have a certain thought and then all of a sudden things change and he adjusts. And he says, well, I wanted a guy that fit that profile, but now I want a guy to fit that profile. You also understand how players can lead and what makes leaders, right? Jared Mayo obviously had some of that knowledge being a player and

playing at a high level and being in locker rooms, but Vrabel as a head coach understood what kind of guys he wants to be in the leadership positions. And that's why you see this turnover of the captains. And you've seen a bunch of guys, right? David Andrews gone, Joann Bentley gone, Devon Gottschall gone. And I think there's going to be more. Credibility matters.

Gerard Mayo had credibility as a player. Mike Vrabel has credibility as a player, but Mayo did not have credibility as a head coach because he had never done the job before. Different with Vrabel. Vrabel's coached. He coached in college. He coached for the Houston Texans. He was a defensive coordinator done the job before. Different with Vrabel. Vrabel's coached. He coached in college. He coached for the Houston Texans.

He was a defensive coordinator for the Texans. Then went to Tennessee, was the head coach. He has been a coach. He's been a head coach. And there's credibility with that because everybody saw what he did in Tennessee with Ryan Tannehill. Everybody saw him make the improvements that he made

and get as much out of that roster as you could get out of that roster. People saw him develop players and players improve on his time. And now when you sign or you get drafted by a Mike Vrabel football team, you feel pretty optimistic that you're going to be heading in the right way. That this guy knows what he's doing, he knows how to develop players, he knows how to get the most out of each and every position on that field. And do not take for granted the ability to communicate to a room. Mike Vrabel has the ability to communicate to a room, getting his message across to the players clearly, efficiently. And that matters.

Because if you understand what your coach wants and you understand what needs to be done to do what your coach wants, and everybody's on the same page because the communication is great, or at least it's very good, it helps, right? I mean, remember what happened last year, the Ramondre Stevenson-Ant, Antonio Gibson situation late in the year.

When Gerard Mayo said that Stevenson was not going to start Gibson was going to start, and then all of a sudden Stevenson started, and it certainly seemed like there was some miscommunication between Mayo and Alex van Pelt, which at that time of the year is inexcusable. I don't expect that from Mike Vrabel because he's going to communicate clearly to the coaches, to the players. He's gonna get his message across to the room and everybody's going to understand what needs to be done.

You know what else helps with vibe? Free agency. When you sign six or seven guys that are going to start, and we could say it's on paper, but I mean, you look at Morgan Moses, you look at Spillane, you look at Milton Williams, you look at all the guys, Carlton Davis, right? You look at all these guys that they brought in,

they signed six or seven starters, immediate upgrades to their roster. That brings good vibes, brings a little bit of swag, right? Brings swag back a little bit to the Patriots. Adding talent helps. They draft guys that are gonna be upgrades on this roster, adding that talent helps.

You know what else helps? It gives you a good feel and it makes the vibes good in the room before you actually play football. A coaching staff that to me is not only impressive, it's frankly overqualified. Former offensive coordinators as wide receiver coaches, former head coaches as online coaches, former head coaches as your offensive coordinator, a number of guys on the offensive side especially that would be seen as overqualified. Thomas Brown being your tight ends coach and passing game coordinator.

And it's just this overall optimism that you can compete. I'm not saying contend, but that you could at least be a part of a conversation as we get closer to Turkey Day gobble gobble. When the snow is falling, is this team competing? And I think the vibe in the building is good because these guys believe that a Lot of the guys in that facility right now from the coaching staff on to the players

They believe that they can compete they believe they're heading in the right direction and they believe that the guy leading this program is the right guy All right that wraps up this edition of locked-on Patriots tomorrow on the show I'll take a look at Abdul Carter, whether or not there are some red flags surrounding the Penn State pass rusher. Let me know your thoughts on today's topics. Reach out to me on Twitter at Nick C. Radio. Throw a comment in on YouTube as well.

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