Locked On Patriots - Daily Podcast On The New England Patriots - Special Edition: 2022 NFL Draft: Round One — Patriots, Nakobe Dean, Possible Trades More — 4/28/22

Episode Date: April 28, 2022

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Patriots fans, the time for the talk has ended. NFL Draft Day is here. The 2022 NFL Draft is about to begin. Which way will the Patriots go? Murph and I have you covered on Mike Debate, and you are about to be locked in to a special edition of the Locked On Patriots podcast. You are Locked On Patriots,
Starting point is 00:00:22 your daily New England Patriots podcast, part of the Locked On Patriots, your daily New England Patriots podcast. Part of the Locked On Podcast Network, your team every day. Oh, to all of you, Foxborough faithful. And thank you once again for joining us here on this special draft night edition of the Locked On Pates podcast, the 2022 NFL draft moments away from kicking in. Folks, it has been a long journey, but we could not culminate this journey without bringing you probably one of the guys most responsible for getting us here. We muse the draft each and every Monday.
Starting point is 00:01:15 And folks, I love sharing the microphone with this man. I'm Mike DeBate, your host of the Lockdown Patriots podcast. Of course, you can always find me on Twitter at MDABATA-B-A-T-E-N-F-L. Cover your New England Patriots for Pat's Country of Sports Illustrated. But I am joined tonight, so pleased, so lucky, so fortunate to be joined by the great wisdom and counsel of my great friend here, columnist extraordinaire of E2GSports.com, the great green man himself, the Count of Murphy Fisto,
Starting point is 00:01:46 Thomas Murphy joins me here tonight. Mur happy draft day bud happy draft day man we finally get to pull back that that little square of the last draft uh of the draft uh month advent calendar and uh and see what's behind it it's it's been too long man guys like us we sit here and we bleed for this right after the final gun of the Super Bowl. And then it's like, oh, get us to draft. Get us to draft. They give us that little Thanksgiving week moment of the combine week. And that's always a lot of fun. But no, this is it, man. This is what we live for. This is what we live for. And momentarily, my friend, Roger Goodell, the Senator Pat Geary of Patriots Nation. Folks, if you've got that reference, drop us a little line on YouTube or hit me and Murph up on Twitter.
Starting point is 00:02:37 We know what that means, and most of our listeners will know as well. Some of you may not, but I encourage you to Google it just in case. He will be waltzing to that podium in Las Vegas, Nevada to announce the first pick in the 2022 NFL draft. As I said to open the show, the late great Gorilla Monsoon always said it best, the time for the talk is just about over. We've mused the draft here, Murph, every Monday since the Patriots season has ended. It's been a great ride. I can't thank you enough. We've been fortunate here on
Starting point is 00:03:08 Locked On Patriots to have some great guests alongside yourself, whether it be Steve Balistrieri of Patsfans.com, the Countess of Klaas herself, Claire Klaasi, Claire Cooper of Pats Propaganda, Kevin Tame of Sports Illustrated, Mark Schofield of USA Today, the Patscap
Starting point is 00:03:24 himself, Miguel Benzon, Sonny Ray Fox of FS1, just to name a few. So fortunate to be joined by some great minds as we've all discussed what the Patriots might do in the upcoming NFL draft. But Murph, you know as well as I do that the Patriots dance to the beat of their own drum. And right now, as we're speaking, they still currently hold that number 21 pick. Estimates have them picking around 10 minutes to 11 on the east coast um it's a probably pretty accurate that comes from mike reese of espn folks a mind that we all trust very much so here in new england uh we've been very vocal about our thoughts um you've been very vocal from day one about where you think the patriots should go uh and you've uh detailed george's one about where you think the Patriots should go and you've detailed
Starting point is 00:04:06 George's N'Kobe Dean as the ideal pick at number 21 for the Patriots I've agreed with you as a matter of fact he was my pick right here on the Lockdown Network's Ultimate Mock Draft which is still available folks encourage you to check that out even all weekend long as the picks are happening check out some of the
Starting point is 00:04:22 great work that my colleagues here at Lockdown have done. But again, Bud, will the Patriots do it? Is this going to be the move that they make? I know we believe it should. Do you believe it's what they will do? Honestly, no. I don't.
Starting point is 00:04:38 I really don't. I think they're going to end up trading back. I think they're going to end up fortifying the offensive line. I'm sorry, folks. I know big fat guys aren't sexy and it's not what you're looking for. But no, I really don't. This is the pick that they should make because as I laid out in my last column, there's talent to be had in the third and fourth round at um on the offensive line that they could bring in here season up for a year and could end up being you know cornerstones of this offensive line for the next six seven years and but nicole b dean is the pick that that i would make he is
Starting point is 00:05:19 he is the man that i believe is the game changer on the defensive side of the ball that the Patriots need, desperately need. This isn't something like where you can find a cornerback and use coverage schemes to cover up for some other thing. This is the pick that they need. Over the past two seasons, the Patriots have had a terrible time in stopping the run and in dealing with mobile quarterbacks. And as I said, Dean is the kryptonite. Dean is the man that's going to come in here and shut all that down. I will do cartwheels if it happens. There aren't many people who stand with you and me, Mike. But, you know, this is the pick. And if they pass on him, we're all going to be saying, you know, this will be my next step onto it. Yeah, I mean, look, I know there's a little bit of dirt on our uniforms for picking Dean here
Starting point is 00:06:21 and saying that this is the ideal pick for the Patriots. Obviously, you look at the size, and it's not prototypical. There's no question about it. It's not the cookie cutter, the way the Patriots usually do business. Um, Devin Lloyd, I think fits that a little close, but it is the future. Thank you. That's exactly what I was getting at. He plays a lot bigger. No, no, no. I'm just glad that you did. That was a perfect point. Dynamite drop in money. Uh, but, uh, but but all kidding aside that really is where this draft i think is going and i think that's where the patriots are going you look at some of the more speedy teams in the league and murk we've talked about this uh ad nauseum on mondays you
Starting point is 00:06:57 look at just in their own division you look at josh allen and the speed that he has and then the the prowess that he has at the quarterback position. You also look at now Tyreek Hill, and not just Tyreek Hill in Miami, folks. There's a lot of speedy guys out there that can really get the job done. Chase Edmonds, Raheem Mostert, those guys are lightning when they're healthy and they're locked in. You're looking at a running game right now that is going to give the Patriots fits if they don't have someone in the middle that can defend it, and N'Kobe Dean is definitely great at that um Devin Lloyd coming out of Utah I think would be a good solid pick
Starting point is 00:07:29 here as well I would not be uh dissatisfied with that we've talked about Jordan Davis Murph and I would love to see him in New England right uh rumors right now our good friend Mike Giardi of NFL Network reporting he's likely to go top 10. There's so much uncertainty in this draft, Murph. That makes perfect sense to me. Davis is just the guy that is going to be here for years and years. I mean, he's going to be a surefire star in this league. There were very, very surefire bets, few of them, in the draft, and he's definitely one of them.
Starting point is 00:08:02 He really is. I understand that. Yeah, I definitely understand that. He really is. This kid is, is, has a football IQ that is, is completely off the scales. He's somebody that, you know, in the, in years past, we've heard that, you know, people come in here and, and on the defensive side, as much as the offensive side have a difficult time picking up the, uh, the playbook. This is a kid that will have the playbook down by day three. Yeah. He absolutely will.
Starting point is 00:08:28 Okay. He's a complete leader in the clubhouse, in the locker room, and on the field. He's somebody that has played with, you know, gone up against the absolute best in college football for the past three years. I could, I honestly, I couldn't, I couldn't pass on him. He had 72 tackles last year, 10 and a half sacks, a pick six, and two forced fumbles. You know, this guy has Patriot written all over him. He has Gerard Mayo written all over him in a slightly smaller
Starting point is 00:09:06 package. And we all know how well that worked out. Yeah, absolutely. And you're in good company. ESPN, as opposed, I believe, an AFC scout that went unnamed. But ESPN, Jeremy Fowler had posted a piece in the last couple of days that compared N'le b dean to a uh gerard mayo as well so you know this is a uh really i think interesting draft for the new england patriots uh i always stand by my pick i'm gonna stand by it as well i'm gonna say that you know the patriots uh surprise everybody and then go that route i happen to think you're probably more right than wrong that they probably will go the opposite way you did mention trading down folks and murph and i are going to discuss that trade down in just a moment to wrap things up here on this special
Starting point is 00:09:49 edition condensed edition because we don't want to take up too much of your time this evening and we want you to get to that draft coverage the way you want it however you do know that as the draft is now here next thing that's approaching folks that's right mother's day and it's always a good idea to celebrate life special moments with our good friends over at bluenile.com they always create the custom jewelry of the custom timeless jewelry pieces at a price that you won't find at a traditional jeweler whether your mom prefers a statement piece or an everyday subtle elegance bluenile.com has the fine jewelry options for every mom. Shop high quality classic diamond earrings, elegant tennis
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Starting point is 00:11:12 Murph, before we wrap things up tonight and we direct everyone to the great draft coverage that's happening over live on the Locked On NFL Draft Channel right now, you had mentioned trading down. You had mentioned fortifying the offensive line. I happen to think you might be on to something there. As a matter of fact, our good friend Evan Lazaro reported a little after 5 o'clock that the Patriots might be engaging. They might be looking to make a trade down,
Starting point is 00:11:38 or there may be teams that might be looking to maybe trade up a little bit. He mentioned the Packers. He mentioned the Cowboys as possibilities, but they may be looking to maybe trade up a little bit um he mentioned the packers he mentioned the cowboys as possibilities but they may be looking for some kansas city and they might be looking for something more aggressive than 21 but sometimes it's just a matter of finding out somewhere absolutely absolutely if the patriots do it if they do trade down um i know the fan base is not going to be happy about it but these things can work to your advantage sometimes. What possibly could be their target? Is this offensive line driven,
Starting point is 00:12:12 or are they maybe looking at something else? It would definitely be offensive line driven. I think Zion Johnson should still be there at this point. Bernard Ryman, the massive human being out of central Michigan could still be there. That always works out really well for Bill. But I mean, also, you know, you could see them take a safety here. You know, Louis Seen out of Georgia could go. That could also fill what Bill has in store for this part of the draft and pick up some guys a few picks later on down. And don't sleep on Devonta Wyatt slipping down this far. If Wyatt is there at 21, I bill would take him uh and not risk trading back for it but uh we all know the talent we all know what he can do on a football field and we all
Starting point is 00:13:15 we all know that that this team needs their next vince wilford yeah they do they really do need that and you know i think that's something that has been unsung and i want to give give my colleague at Sports Illustrated, Kevin Tain, credit for bringing that to my attention early on in this draft. And everybody was getting betwixt in between by the linebackers, you and I as well. And they do need help in that position. And dynamic talent, you'd never pass up. We're always a big believer in that. But one thing that's been the hallmark of Patriots championship teams is strength on the defensive line especially that front part of it whether you're playing a 4-3 or really a 3-4 the way the Patriots prefer to play their football uh Devonta Wyatt fits that well of course Jordan Davis does too but right yeah
Starting point is 00:13:55 Devonta Wyatt is a great great pickup I would love to see him here next to Christian Barmore that could be fun to watch for years to come. You mentioned Zion Johnson. I think that is definitely a possibility. You heard it here first, folks. You're probably going to see this on headlines, but remember, you heard it here on Locked on Patriots first. I can see the t-shirts being printed up. The Priory of Zion. What do you
Starting point is 00:14:17 think, Murph? Oh, I love it. I love it. I love it. Absolutely. I think a lot of people are going to like that. We're going to put that out there. I think this has got some strength to it. Watch, they won't pick him now just for that reason. Bill's watching this and going, no, I don't want that on a t-shirt. Nope, that's it.
Starting point is 00:14:37 All kidding aside, my friend. Patricia would, but not. Oh, yeah, absolutely. And I think Matt would wear it. Well, of course, we know Matt's history of wearing t-shirts here in new england uh folks i think it endeared him to a lot of patriots fans even though there's a lot of vitriol uh there's still patriots fans that appreciate him wearing that t-shirt uh when he did uh but what can i say uh the first round is upon us we are here it's been a long ride on a personal note i truly want to thank you for being right my co-pilot each and every Monday uh for just being a phenomenal phenomenal talent and
Starting point is 00:15:10 giving your wisdom and counsel the way only you can I want to thank each and every person that stopped took time out of their day took time out of their schedule uh to submit a mock draft to locked on Patriots you're truly the strength of this show, folks. You guys were great. Every single one of them hit it out of the park. And on behalf of Murph, and I don't think I speak extemporaneously on him, I really do appreciate everything and all the support that you've provided
Starting point is 00:15:40 and continue to interact with us. Mock Draft Monday doesn't necessarily mean because it's going away that we can't still interact with our listeners. Murph and continue to interact with us. Mock Draft Monday doesn't necessarily mean because it's going away that we can't still interact with our listeners. Murph and I always love hearing it. Who knows? Maybe we'll do a Monday Murph mailbag and we'll bring that into fruition. The alliteration is endless and the possibilities are endless.
Starting point is 00:16:00 We're just getting started here on Locked On Patriots. Any parting words before we let our esteemed listeners go today, Murph? Any parting draft wisdom? Yeah, just remember, folks, this is also what I've been hearing week. Okay? Take that with a grain of salt. A lot of people are putting stuff out there to hope and hopefully drive some people down in the draft process, not as human beings, but, you know, this injury and that,
Starting point is 00:16:29 and why didn't they work out longer, and why weren't they at the combine type of thing. Don't read too much into that. Really don't. Take it with a grain of salt. Sit back and enjoy your night. And if the Patriots do go with a big fat guy, go out and order his frickin' jersey. Absolutely. And, hey, who knows?
Starting point is 00:16:50 Maybe a priory of sign-on jersey. There you go. All right. I'm sorry, folks. I promise I'll stop. No, no, no. That's okay. But great.
Starting point is 00:16:59 All I can thank you for is everything that you do here, bud. I mean, really, nothing short of remarkable, nothing short of my eternal gratitude for you joining me here each and every Monday, and that will continue, folks. But now, it is time to stay tuned and get ready to hear what the Patriots are going to do, what all
Starting point is 00:17:17 of 32 NFL teams are going to do. The NFL draft coverage kicks off, and it is the best time of year for a football fan, folks. Now that you've absorbed my man's wisdom and counsel here on Locked On Patriots, please head over to the Locked On NFL YouTube page for our live coverage of the NFL draft. We'll be live all throughout the draft, covering every round, every pick. Amazing studio setup. Really, kudos to the Locked On team for putting this together.
Starting point is 00:17:43 Just a great, great time, and anytime you need that type of analysis, folks, you know where to find it. In the meantime, continue to stay locked into Locked On Patriots by smashing that subscribe button on YouTube, downloading, subscribe to, and following the Locked On Patriots podcast on platforms such as Spotify,
Starting point is 00:17:59 the Odyssey app, Google Podcasts, Apple Podcasts, wherever you get your podcasts. Just thank you for staying locked into Locked On Patriots. I'm Mike DeBate. On behalf of the great green man himself, Thomas Murphy, enjoy the NFL draft. Enjoy round one. We'll be back here tomorrow breaking out all of day one and really previewing day two. Until then, folks, stay safe and well and have a great evening.
Starting point is 00:18:23 And whatever the Jets do is wrong. When you're a Jet, you're a Jet all the way, right? Jet all the way.

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