Locked On Patriots - Daily Podcast On The New England Patriots - Then and Now Tuesday: Patriots, Brady move forward - 4/7/2020

Episode Date: April 7, 2020

Tom Brady may have bid the New England Patriots a find farewell, but the future of the Pats is still bright. Ian Glendon of Full Press Coverage joins host Mike D’Abate to discuss Brady’s piece in The Player’s Tribune, why it was not loaded with hidden messages, and the Pats’ future with Jarrett Stidham at quarterback.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Patriots fans, you are now locked in to the Locked On Patriots Podcast. I'm going to show you how to make a beautiful and beautiful flower. I'm going to use a small flower pot. I'm going to use a small pot Hello to all of you Foxborough faithful. It is then and now Tuesday here on the Lockdown Patriots podcast, your daily home for news notes and analysis infused with the occasional opinion on your six-time Super Bowl champions, the New England Patriots.

My name is Mike DeBate. I am your host of the Locked On Patriots podcast, which of course is a proud part of the Locked On podcast network, your team every day. And folks, because it's your team every day, that means your questions, comments, feedback, always welcomed and always appreciated. And you can always share that feedback by reaching out to me

and following me on Twitter at MDABATEFPC. And while you're roaming around out there on the Twitterverse, please be sure to follow the Locked On Patriots account as well at LO underscore Patriots. Patriots fans, it is Tuesday, April the 7th, 2020, one day closer to the NFL draft. And you did hear correctly. I introduced today as Then and Now Tuesday. Because even though the better part of our vision is focused squarely on the future,

there's always going to be at least one look to the past. And yesterday, Tom Brady, remember him, folks? I'm only kidding. How could we forget him? He's only the greatest player ever to wear a Patriots uniform. But yes, Tom Brady took to the Players' Tribune to provide a first-person account of his reasoning behind leaving the New England Patriots in favor of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.

And of course, instead of being met with a level-headed, even-keeled, and non-judgmental reaction, the sleuths of social media are at it again, folks, treating it like a crib text that contains the hidden meaning of life. I, for one, found the message to be very straightforward, very transparent. Tom's decision was about finding a new challenge. It wasn't about proving something to the Patriots organization. It wasn't about silencing the naysayers and proving to the morning show cliff dwellers of Moron Mountain that he doesn't have a noodle for an arm. It's not even about sticking it to Bill Belichick, folks. I know, that's what they're saying, but it's not about

that. What it's about is Tom fulfilling a goal that he believes he can fulfill. It's about finding a spot where he believed was the best opportunity for him to do it. We all wish it was New England, but it was Tampa Bay. And at the end of the day, it was Tom's decision to make, and it was also the Patriots' decision to make. Both sides acted in their own best interest. For the Patriots, that meant starting over, moving on from the greatest quarterback in their franchise history and what I believe to be the greatest quarterback in NFL history. But for Tom, it was moving on as well, moving on from the only professional organization he's ever known, but persevering and remaining steadfast in a goal that he had set for himself. And that's not just

to play the game of football until he's 45, folks. It's to play it at a high level until he feels he can't do that any longer. In his own words, Tom talks about proving things to himself, not thumbing his nose at his former coach, or providing another finger for all those who disrespected him throughout his 20-year career. It's about proving that the 199th pick in the 2000 NFL draft is still capable of doing what almost everyone else says that he can't. If you want the reason why Tom is in Tampa Bay, folks, that's it. There are no rhymes, riddles, or hidden Da Vinci Code type of messages in his statement. It's fairly

obvious. In Tom's own words, he just wants to show everyone what he's got. But back here in Patriots Nation, how did everyone in New England take this news? What was their reaction to Tom's statement? And also, what do the people in Tampa Bay think about what Tom had to say in the Players' Tribune yesterday? Well, in that vein, I'm had to say in the Players' Tribune yesterday? Well, in that vein, I'm proud to say that I'm joined by a guest today that knows a thing or two about the Patriots fanbase and the Buccaneers fanbase. My good friend, the editor-in-chief of Full Press coverage and the head of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers beat for Full Press, Ian Glendon, joins me today. And anyone that follows Ian on Twitter or has read his great work knows that he is among the most staunch Brady advocates out there. Ian and I will talk about our feelings with regard to Tom's statement.

And because it's Then and Now Tuesday, we'll take a look at now and even a little bit beyond. And where the Patriots stand now that Jarrett Stidham looks to be the likely starter in 2020. As of late, some have suggested that Jarrett may not be ready to take the reins in Foxborough. Well, Ian and I have something to say about that and we'll share that with you in just a minute. But before I welcome Ian in today, I just wanted to take a moment to congratulate the nine current or former New England Patriots who on Monday were selected to the NFL's 2010's Team of the Decade. Headlining that list? You guessed it, folks. Quarterback Tom Brady. He was a unanimous choice to make the team of the decade. For the second consecutive decade, he was the best and most successful quarterback

in football over the last 10 years, led the Patriots to three championships, as well as 10 straight division titles. Or really, I should say 11 straight if you count the 2009 season as well. Tom earns this honor for the second straight decade, both the 2000s and the 2010s, an incredible accomplishment, very well deserved. The other players on this list, equally as deserving. Tight end Rob Gronkowski, no question about it, one of the best at his position all decade. He was joined by offensive lineman Logan Mankins, linebacker Chandler Jones, cornerback Darrell Rivas, kicker Steven Gostowski, kicker Turner Cordaro Patterson, wide receiver Antonio Brown. Yes, folks, he played for them for one day, but he is still technically considered a former Patriot.

And of course, head coach Bill Belichick listed on the team as well. So congratulations to all the current and former Patriots on that list. Well-deserved and very hard to argue with their placement among the NFL's elite. But again, Patriots fans, today is Then and Now Tuesday. And to talk about the quarterback of then and the quarterback situation of now and beyond, Ian Glendon of Full Press Coverage is about to take the hot seat when the Locked On Patriots podcast continues. Patriots fans, my guest today tirelessly continues to fight the good fight for logic when it

comes to all things related to Tom Brady and the connection that he will always have to New England. And that's why he's still here. Thank you. And my best good friend, Ian Glendon, joins us today. Ian, hello. La, la, la. What's up, buddy? You know, my friend, you know, what's up is kind of a relative term, I think, nowadays. With everything that we're all going through, we talk quite frequently. So we know that ours and yours are doing fairly well throughout all this crisis. So many families, so many people, unfortunately, are not. And it's always good to be able to take the microphone and give people some alternatives and some breaks when it comes to some of the difficult news of the day that

just continues to pile up day by day. So it's always an honor to share the microphone with you, my friend, but even more so under these circumstances, as we try to help people through what is unprecedented times in our society, at least in our lifetimes, we've never lived through anything like this. No, absolutely not. And, you know, I think we're all learning to adjust and deal with it, you know, each and every day. And, you know, hey, it is what it is. And I think people, if you make the most out of it, you know, you can accomplish a lot. It you can accomplish a lot. It's just, uh, you know, again, it's stressful for everyone. And I think everyone's aware of the, uh, you know, the, the challenges that people face on a day-to-day basis. Absolutely.

And, uh, you know, but we always try to bring it back to new England sports. That's what we do. And especially here on the lockdown Patriots podcast, we do that better than anybody when it comes to bringing things back to a Patriots-centric topic. And it's one thing to take the New England out of our former quarterback, Tom Brady, but it's another thing to take Tom Brady out of New England. And there's not a whole lot that can be done to do that. And yesterday, as published by the Players' Tribune, Tom published what I felt to be a

very heartfelt, very transparent explanation as to why he left New England and what made him choose Tampa Bay. And no, buddy, I hate to burst your bubble. It wasn't to be your new neighbor. That was part of the reason, but I don't think it was the primary one. I kid, I kid. But in all seriousness, I commented yesterday that it was a better course of action to focus on what Tom did say as opposed to what he didn't say. And some of our reputable, and reputable was the word I should use there, right?

You know what? Let's say reputable. Colleagues in the media decided not to take that advice, but let's take the high road here, and let's talk about what Tom did say. And he did say, quote, at some point, you have to throw your whole body into what you're doing. You have to say, let's ride. Let's see what we got. I want to show everybody what I got, unquote. Ian, am I off base and thinking that this is a pretty clear indication of why he made the decision that he made and that there's really not a lot of cryptic tea leaves to be read here? No, not at all. And I think people were motivated

the second the story came out to find those cryptic messages. And again, when you go into it looking to find something negative or find something to kind of harp on, I mean, you're going to find something. You know, I think this was just, and we talked about this this morning, and I feel like this was just a challenge that he saw ahead of him, and he just wants to take it on. He's a very highly motivated individual who uses a lot of self-motivation to keep him going. when the season starts, he looks at this as the next big challenge for him, for a guy who's, you know, accomplished as much as he has. The idea that he still looks to prove, you know, not necessarily to other people, but in his words, things to himself. This seems like a natural, natural split. And I don't think it has anything to do with,

you know, a big bad Belichick or some sort of rift. I think it's just 20 years of and uh you know the same thing over and over and just like a lot of people I mean people people move leave their cities just just for a change you know not because they you know I I love Boston I love Massachusetts but I moved down to Florida because I needed a change I needed something different and and I think in a lot of ways and I'm going to put a higher percentage on him coming down here to follow me than you do. But in a lot of ways, it's the same thing, because he looks at it like, you know what, I have a few years left and I want to find the next big challenge. I want to elevate my game to an even higher level, which, again, in essence, is incredibly impressive, considering he's 42 years old. The winningest quarterback the most successful quarterback and the greatest quarterback of all time already and he still

feels he he can prove something to to others and and i think that's the biggest motivating factor it's not because he doesn't like belichick so i agree with that uh all but uh you know the percentage that you're putting on him coming down to follow you. Keep telling yourself that, bro. No, I'm kidding. I'm kidding, folks. But in all actuality, I think you really hit on some very, very good points and points that I want to expound upon. First of all, the ability of Tom Brady to seek a new challenge is something that's motivated him throughout his entire career. We've talked about this several times, but it's a situation where Tom Brady and the New England Patriots were a 20-year marriage that had more success than pretty much any type of melding together of a star athlete and a franchise really in history.

I mean, you can point to the early days of the Celtics and Bill Russell and Red Auerbach and Bob Cousy and those dynasties that just continued to win championships. But in the modern era, it's so difficult to find another organization that's enjoyed this much success this long and been able to sustain it for the time period that they had in a sport, by the way, that was designed to encourage parity. It's it really did, I believe, run its course. And that was something that I talked about with Tanya Rae Fox when she joined me here on Friday, is maybe we misread the situation of Tom's motivation to constantly prove that he was ready for his next challenge. And I think the piece that he published in the Players' Tribune yesterday very clearly outlined that. I don't think there was a lot of tea leaves to be read here, and I'm glad that you set me straight,

and some of our listeners maybe, when it comes to that. That leads me into the next point that I wanted to expound upon, was Brady's quote-unquote rift with Bill Belichick. I think it's ridiculous to insinuate anywhere in this piece that he published that these are shots or bows. You know, the shots being fired across the bow at Bill Belichick. I didn't get that from that, especially when he mentioned that Belichick wasn't the guy that called him when he was the sixth round pick. It was his assistant. And technically, folks, that wasn't meant as a knock to Belichick. I think that was extra motivation for Tom to say, you know what? I found myself at a similar crossroads. Not many people believe that I can do what I say I'm capable of doing at age 42 to 43.

Tampa Bay was willing to listen. They were willing to take the shot on me. And that's why I'm going down there. I did not find it as being a shot at Bill Belichick I didn't find it as being a shot at the organization he because he didn't mention Belichick by name other than saying well it wasn't exactly coach Belichick that called me it was his assistant I think that's been a motivating factor for Tom throughout his career I think it will continue to be and that's one of the big reasons why he chose Tampa

and that leads me quite nicely into my next question for you bud because you have dipped both feet into the buccaneers beat and you're doing amazing work for full press buccaneers judging from the interactions that you've had with buccaneers fans now how did they react to this piece being published because i know having my finger on the pulse of patriots nation up here, it was met with some mixed reaction. And I was really surprised about that. There are some people that are embracing it saying, good for you, Tom, go get that next challenge. We're here for you when it's all said and done. You'll always be a Patriot, but good luck as it's a buccaneer. But there is a certain sect in Patriots Nation now that is taking this, I think, with the wrong approach. And they're

saying, well, it doesn't matter now. We're moving on. And you know what? That was a shot at our organization. Well, I'm throwing down the gauntlet. I didn't see any of that. How are Bucs fans reacting to that piece that Tom published yesterday? I think they're really excited. I mean, they're starting to learn a lot more about Tom Brady, the person, you know, things that we know that, you know, we don't think twice about because we've watched him for 20 years. So these little subtle things that he does, the way he conducts himself, the way he presents himself and acts and speaks and everything like that,

we've become so accustomed to it that now a new fan base is learning. And if I'm a Buccaneers fan, then I'm looking at this saying, like, man, how is the guy that's 42 going on 43 this motivated to be as great as he is even at this point in his career where, again, it's getting to the point now, I mean, there's going to be people that will still argue it, it's pretty inarguable about you know who the greatest modern era quarterback is i mean again i i i'll sit here and say he's the greatest of all time but you know for the sake of of not upsetting some of the uh you know the older fans like you know we'll say modern era but it's like at this

point it's it's a hard argument to make against so now all of a sudden this this fan base who's excited nonetheless to have a obviously a quarterback that's as successful as tom come into the organization but but now they're starting to learn about his thought process and how he conducts himself so maybe some of these um silly narratives that they've listened to over the years are starting to kind of be like, wait a minute, that doesn't make sense. This guy used to tell me he was this, he was cocky, he was whatever. Like, no, this guy is incredibly self-motivated and he looks at everything as a challenge. And look, he did not, this is something we know about him very well, he did not hesitate to talk about his teammates, his new teammates,

and talk about how he wants to help them grow and help them become better people and, you know, players. And that's something that he looks at as a responsibility being an older player, something that he valued greatly as a young player coming in. I mean, we know his relationship with Willie McGinnis. You know, their bond is going to go it goes runs pretty deep and willie was always kind of a a mentor and someone that was there for him when he first came around so he wants to he wants to share that he also wants to bring the mentality that he learned in new england to tampa bay and then that's another reason why this whole idea that he was taking a shot at Belichick or whatever is ludicrous, because he speaks very specifically about

bringing that mentality and that drive that he learned in New England from Bill Belichick to Tampa Bay. So if he was that upset with Bill, didn't like Bill, or they hated each other, he's not going to sit there and try to emulate what he learned within the Patriots organization down in Tampa. So the general reaction is just, I think, excitement and just some people that may have doubted him before are starting to learn more about him as a person. And I think that goes a long way in understanding who Tom Brady is, because for people outside of New England, basically you get surface material. And a lot of times that surface material is a lot of BS because, you know, the people that have the platform don't really know what they're talking about.

So. So, yeah, I would say generally excitement. And and and again, you said, you know, Patriots fans, there's going to be a mixed reaction. Some of them are still, you know, upset that he left. And, you know, that's, you know, it's like a scorned lover. You know, you're going to blame him for everything and look to poke holes in anything he says. And now all of a sudden, like the things that he did, you're like, OK, well, that's a little bit annoying, Tom. Well, no, it's not. You're just you're just upset that he's not a member of the Patriots. And I think the sooner you get over that,

the sooner you realize that he's not doing this to take a shot at New England. He's not doing it to take a shot at Bill Belichick. He's doing it because this is who he is, and this is what made him a six-time Super Bowl champion. And, again, it's disappointing as a Patriots fan. Of course you want to see him play his entire career, but as a football fan and someone who's a fan of his, this is an exciting time for him. It's an exciting time for Bucs fans. And I think they're starting to really learn about his personality and what drives him. And I think that's going to resonate with the fans, the coaches, the front office, and most importantly, the players that who are now going to play with him. And, and again, you know, this isn't, you know, he may only play in Tampa Bay for two years,

but his long lasting impact on these players and, and perhaps the organization will resonate for a long time because of, of who he is and what he brings and how he can build a foundation in Tampa Bay that's been obviously very void of success for quite some time. So to be brief, I think they're excited. No, that's great insight. And I thank you for confirming my intuition, because that's exactly the way I read Tom's piece yesterday. It wasn't a fire or a shot at the New England Patriots organization,

their fans, or most notably, their head coach. To me, I think it was an introduction to Tampa Bay and exactly what he brings to the table, that type of motivation that served him so well as a New England Patriot for 20 years, carrying that on the 199th pick in the 2000 draft, sixth rounder that no one wanted to take a shot at. No one believed in me. And I came up there and I was able to do it. I think he's taking that motivation and bringing it to Tampa. I don't believe it was a shot. I agree

with you. And I think in a lot of ways, it's going to endear him to Tampa Bay Buccaneers fans. They should be excited. They're getting a great quarterback. We know up here in New England what he's been able to do for the last 20 years. And there's still a lot left in the tank when it comes to Tom Brady. And I believe he's going to prove that. However, there is a new quarterback that will take snaps in New England for the first time in 20 years. And a lot of Patriots fans seem ready and willing to embrace Jarrett Stidham as the new signal caller. But over the weekend, some comments had been made that maybe he isn't the guy in the Patriots'

future plans. I'm going to get Ian's take on that and how he believes the Patriots will move forward post-Brady when lockdown Patriots continues in just a moment. Patriots fans, once again, Ian Glendon of Full Press Coverage is here with me today, and we're talking some Tom Brady and also some New England Patriots future. And Ian, we've had the opportunity to see Jared Stidham evolve into now what we believe to be to be the Patriots starter. A lot of people have their opinions on that,

and a lot of people think that, you know, one way or another, either Jarrett or someone else will be taking snaps in New England this year. But ultimately, they're going to be starting a new starting quarterback for the first time in quite some time. When you look at the way the Patriots are stacked up right now, Todd McShay over the weekend of ESPN, who is someone whose opinion that I hold in very high regard, said that while he believes that the Patriots brass is impressed with Stidham,

he believes that he's capable of doing things, right now he's not ready to take the reins and lead the New England Patriots. But all of the information that I've gotten from the organization says that they believe otherwise. They see something in Jarrett that allows them to believe that he can be their quarterback this year and potentially down the line in the future. When you look at the way the Patriots are stacked up right now, is that an off-base prediction, or do you believe that the Patriots should see something in Jarrett that maybe others, including analysts like McShea, who we do respect, may not see when it comes to the readiness of this kid to take the reins in Foxborough? No, yeah, it's completely off-base because, again, and this goes to anyone that's making proclamations one way or the other, like definitive proclamations.

You can sit there and, you know, look at his college tape and make judgments and kind of, you know, try to figure out what he's going to be. But the reality of it is no one knows. So to sit up there and say that he's not ready, I can't imagine Todd McShay spent the entire season with the New England Patriots and watching practice every day so you know unless it comes from Bill Belichick's mouth itself himself I you know I'm not going to hold too much weight in it and in reality they're just kind of throwing stuff against the wall you know what I mean it's to me it's you you just don't know and again I'm going to trust the opinions of the organization because they're going to they're going to know a lot more about this kid than you know anyone outside the organization so um if he's judging it solely on his college tape then again that's a bit disingenuous because you know he he's spent an entire year learning

under tom brady and practicing every day and learning under belichick so you know it's a pretty reasonable expectation or thought process that he has grown and evolved as a player. Whether or not he's ready to go out there and be an NFL caliber starting quarterback, again, we just don't know. And there's no evidence to suggest one thing or the other. other so um anyone who's making a definitive and and you know flat out uh predictions about who he's going to be really doesn't know what they're talking about because again we just we just don't know and unless they spent that time in the Patriots organization watching practice every day I just don't see that as a as an appropriate uh assessment of of who he is as a player. Without question.

And I'm glad that you said that because the New England Patriots are really the ones that have to make this evaluation. Bill Belichick, Josh McDaniels, the Patriots brain trust has to see something in Jarrett to lead them to believe that he is the guy this year. I refuse to believe, and I've said this several times here on Locked On Patriots, that the Patriots are going to field a team that is going to make them look bad, meaning Robert Kraft, Josh McDaniels, Bill Belichick especially. These are not guys that are going to tank just for the sake of it. They're not going to throw Jarrett out there to the wolves and say, well, yeah, he's the

best option that we've got, but we're really not too high on him, so we'll just see what he has. And if he fails and falls flat, well, then it puts us in a better draft position next year. I don't believe that's the case at all. This team wants to win. And I believe they're trying to do everything they can to do that. I also like what you had to say when it comes to the Patriots options, when it comes to

the draft, because I did want to expound upon that a little bit. And that is Pats fans don't let who the Patriots draft. If they choose to use high draft capital on a quarterback, be an indictment on Jared Stidham. I've seen this a lot on social media, and I think it's a mistake to go in this direction by saying that, oh, well, they drafted Jordan Love, or they drafted Jalen Hurts, or they drafted Mason, or they drafted some of these other quarterbacks that are out there. Jacob Eason is a hot name.

Jake Fromm is another one. I don't think there's any indictment on Jarrett Stidham by going with these guys. I think the Patriots right now always evaluate the best possible situation. And if they see a guy that has a certain round talent available in that, the Patriots are doing their due diligence. So I think right now the common and the probably most prudent approach when it comes to Jarrett Stidham is let's see what the kid can do. Let's evaluate what he can do on the field.

But let's trust in the Patriots' brain trust. If they're willing to hand the keys of the kingdom to Jarrett Stidham, there's got to be a reason for it. It's because they believe he's ready. And ultimately, you put this very eloquently, in, they're the only ones that know they have to make that decision. And they will see things that even the most ardent of NFL analysts don't see. And that's what they know what they have in Jarrett Stidham. So again, I think that, uh, they're, uh, they're, they're doing their due diligence. And I thank you for your insight when

it comes to that. Ian, you are a great man. You're a great friend. I always appreciate your candor, your insight. Folks, follow the man on Twitter, at IGLEN31. You can find his great work, mock drafts, analysts, and opinions much more at Full Press Buccaneers. He's doing a great job with that beat,

and I really look forward to seeing what he continues to do with it. He has you covered when it comes, as do all the great writers here at FullPressCoverage.com, which is now available via the app on Apple, Google Play. Download it. You won't regret it. And also, you can check him out on the airwaves, on great shows like the brand-new Full Press Buccaneers podcast,

FPC Radio Live, G-Pop, and also the Big Bad Bruins podcast with our mutual friend Chris Blackie. It's a great listen, folks. I highly recommend it. Buddy, thank you for joining me today. Any parting shots for the Buccaneers fan base, the Patriots fan base, or anyone in general before I let you go here today, my friend? No, you know what? I'm in a I'm in a rather good mood. I just I would say ignore the noise,

you know, use use your own best judgment and stop listening to two people that pretend like they know everything already about guys like Jared Sittemann for Bucs fans. Look, you got a great quarterback. You got a great leader. He's going to help turn your franchise around. I feel pretty confidently that it's going to result potentially in a Super Bowl championship, whether it's this year or next. We'll see. But it's an exciting time for Buccaneers fans. And look, it's it's it's an exciting time for Patriots fans as well. I mean, there's there's something about the the unknown that that is, you know, reenergizes you and kind of gets you thinking differently. And I think that's how I'm looking at this. And I'm excited to see what the kid can do.

Phenomenal. And I completely agree. And again, Tampa Bay is getting a great quarterback at just after 1 p.m. Eastern Daylight Time, I should say. So we lose track of time here with all of this going on. And it is daylight time, I should say. We lose track of time here with all of this going on. It is daylight time, folks. Just after 1pm, Ian gets a look at the new Buccaneers threads. We'll be able to see what that new

jersey may look like. He'll probably be donning that while all of us up here in New England will be clutching our Patriot Blue Brady jersey and listening to Michael Bolton's How Am I Supposed to Live Without You. Again, that's how I'm spending my days. Doesn't mean everybody's doing that. Ian, again, my friend, it is always an honor, always a pleasure.

You know you'll be back on the airwaves here at Locked On Patriots sooner rather than later. Stay safe and stay well, my friend. Thank you. And I, you know me, just I'm a call away. Absolutely. You always are. And we always love love having you it's always my honor and my pleasure take care have a great week buddy you

too so that was then and this is now folks it's always a fun and informative time when Ian shares the microphone with me here on Locked On Patriots he's had so much experience defending the Brady wall that when that security is threatened you always have to welcome him in. And he never disappoints. But the window into the Patriots' future continues to march on here on the Locked On Patriots podcast.

And as for me, I will be back tomorrow to continue to bring you the latest news notes and analysis from Foxborough. As always, please be sure to join me each and every day here on the Locked On Patriots podcast. Subscribe and download via your preferred podcast provider. And don't forget that you can always listen to Locked On Patriots right on your smart device. How do you do that?

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