Locked On Patriots - Daily Podcast On The New England Patriots - Tight End Tuesday: Diving into the Patriots Depth Chart - 5/26/2020

Episode Date: May 26, 2020

The New England Patriots typically enjoy great production at the tight end position.  However, the team struggled in this area during 2019.  Fan-Favorite Thomas “Murph” Murphy joins host Mike D’Abate to discuss incumbents Matt LaCosse and Ryan Izzo, as well as rookie arrivals Devin Asiasi and Dalton Keene.   Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Patriots fans, you are now locked in to the Locked On Patriots Podcast. I'm going to show you how to make a beautiful and beautiful flower. I'm going to use a small flower pot. I'm going to use a small pot Hello to all of you Foxborough faithful and welcome to TE Tuesday as we kick off positional depth chart week here on the Lockdown Patriots podcast, your daily home for news notes and analysis infused with the occasional opinion on your six-time Super Bowl champions, the New England Patriots.

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off another week here on the Locked On Patriots podcast. And it's a good one. Positional Depth Chart Week. And that means that right here, all week long on the Locked On Patriots podcast, we'll be taking a deeper dive into the areas on the Patriots roster that will be most under the microscope in 2020. And because you all know I love my alliteration, today is Tight End Tuesday, or TE Tuesday. Now within the last couple of weeks here on the pod, we've talked a lot about Devin Asiasi,

and we've talked a lot about Dalton Keene, the brand new acquisitions for the Patriots when it comes to the 2020 NFL Draft. But they're not the only tight ends on the roster. Patriots actually have six tight ends on the roster, folks. That includes incumbents Matt LaCosse and Ryan Izzo. Don't forget Boston College's Jake Burt and Ohio State's Rashad Berry as undrafted free agents. They're options as well. And I think it's very safe to say that the Patriots will not be carrying six tight ends

on this roster. So who makes the cut and who doesn't? Well, that's exactly what we're going to talk about today. And because Tight End Tuesday is going to kick off a new week here on the Locked On Patriots podcast, and over the weekend, Memorial Day weekend often acts as the unofficial kickoff of summer. And judging by the 2020 that we've all had, I know we're looking forward to some summer weather, no matter how we can enjoy it.

So I'm going to take a page out of that book of logic, and I'm not going to waste any time in giving the people exactly what they want. And folks, that means some green tight end wisdom. Hmm. That's right. We're not wasting any time here on the Locked On Patriots podcast. We're going to the ace in game one. Thomas, the Count of Murphy, Fisto Murphy,

joins me today here on the Locked On Patriots podcast, and we will discuss the tight end depth chart. Why Matt Lacoste and Ryan Izzo, the two main incumbents on this roster, and will make a legitimate case to make the roster, and also how the two new tight end additions, Devin Asiasi and Dalton Keene, will challenge each of them for a spot on the 2020 team. We'll even sprinkle in a little fullback talk, because as you know, both Danny Vitale and Jakob Johnson currently possess that spot on the Patriots depth chart.

Could one of the most recent tight end acquisitions be the Patriots' primary answer at fullback? Well, Murph and I will discuss that and more when I welcome my good friend in to share the hot seat today on this tight end Tuesday, Locked On Murph edition of the Locked On Patriots podcast. But first, folks, as I alluded to earlier, summer is here. And that means two things. One, finding the energy you need to not only complete your daily tasks, but also give yourself the motivation to responsibly

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Joining me today to talk tight ends on this TE Tuesday, he is the green dancing destroyer, the master of disaster, the king of sting, the count of Murphy Fisto, the one, the only, Apollo. Whoops, wait a minute. Hold on. Got to check my notes. No, folks, I'm just kidding. My benefactor in this business and my great friend Thomas Murphy is here today. Thank you for joining me in friendship once again, Don Murph.

Oh, bud. Pleasure to be here. Always a pleasure to be here. It seems like we just got off the phone five minutes ago, and we usually do. We usually do. Thanks again for asking me back on. Oh, anytime. Thanks again for asking me back, man. It's always great.

You never have to thank me for that. We thank you. The listeners here at Locked On Patriots, I thank you. Because, again, the Wisdom in Council meter is off the charts when you're here. And what better way to kick off the positional depth chart week here on Locked On Patriots than to start it off with the ace. You go with it in game one, folks. You don't save it.

You don't preserve it. You hit them with it right away. And you give them what they need right off the ace. You go with it in game one, folks. You don't save it. You don't preserve it. You hit them with it right away, and you give them what they need right off the bat. And again, Murph, we are talking positional depth charts this week, and I thought all of our listeners, myself included, of course, would benefit greatly from some of your wisdom and counsel when it comes to the tight end position. And Murph, I haven't exactly minced words here when describing the production out of the tight ends last year. I believe I've even used the word abysmal at times, which folks probably is a little bit of an exaggeration, but you know, it just, it wasn't

great. Let's put it that way. New England tight ends combined for a league low 37 catches. They tied for last with two touchdowns in 2019 in new England, that's not what we're used to seeing, and you know it's not going to cut it for the long term. Now, the primary rotation last year consisted of Benjamin Watson, Matt Lacoste, and Ryan Izzo. And the Pats knew as well as anyone that they needed to improve. But the only additions that they've been making this year have been the ones they've made via the draft,

and we will get into those in a little bit. That means if the season started today, they'd be going with Lacoste and Izzo as their only veteran options. First off, Murph, does this concern you? Because it concerns me, but I want to absorb the wisdom and counsel from my source of all knowledge. So does it concern you? And if so, when you look at 2019 in hindsight, why do you think the Patriots were so ineffective at the position last year?

Well, I mean, their number one option last year had to sit out a long period of time. That's Ben Watson for you folks out there. Secondly, you know, Ben Watson will stick with that is is could have gone to high school with our 42-year-old starting quarterback. That never makes for a good combination. It really doesn't. Two guys that, you know, can talk about the same music and, you know, reminisce about their prom because it was basically during the same decade. And that's not really good when one of those people is in their 40s. That's where the problem started.

They put a little too much... All right, no, I'm just going to get it out of the way. Rob Gronkowski fucked this team last year by hemming and hawing all the way until the point was, I'm sorry, I just dropped the F-bomb, and I'm not supposed to do that here. Would you just bleep that? No, you're okay. You're okay.

No, no, that's all right. We're good. We're good. We're allowed one for one. It was awful. It was awful what Rob did to this team. It really was, and it left them with little to no options whatsoever, and we ended up with H-to-the. Izzo and Matty Lacoste, who are fine young men, fine gentlemen, all of them, all of them.

I love them dearly. Great interviews, good people, good human beings. They just cannot football very well, and they can't tight end very well. And there was a point in time where Ben Watson could do that, but he cannot do that any longer without the aid of performance enhancing drugs. And that was quite apparent last year. And yeah, I am a little bit nervous this season. I am.

I love the picks that Bill made during the draft. The more I watch Asiasi and Keene, the more I like them. Also, the more film I watch of Matt Lacoste and Ryan Izzo, I do not. So I'm really not sure, folks. You can take a look at this depth chart right now, but the two best tight ends on this team have never played in an NFL snap. Yeah, I'm right there with you. And look, I agree with you.

I had the opportunity to cover Matt and Ryan last year in practice, saw them in training camp, watched them emerge, and really two fine individuals. And I do not say that and use the word abysmal to describe them sometimes to in any way negate how I feel about these guys personally. They gave it everything they had. It's funny. You know, over the weekend, you have an opportunity to kind of kick back a little bit uh blue chips which I'm sure is a movie that you've seen with Nick Nolte and Shaquille O'Neal and that was on this weekend I heard I heard Nick Nolte describe the players that played for him the

year before he got his store-bought haul so to speak and he talked about these guys they gave it everything they had. They played up to the maximum of their ability. I think that really describes Matt Lacoste, Ryan Izzo, and even to an extent, Benjamin Watson. I think they gave you everything they had last year, but what they had just simply wasn't going to cut it. The direction that they get out of that position every single season,

usually when this team is clicking on all cylinders. I mean, stats that jump out at me right away from Lacoste, he didn't actually haul in his first touchdown of the season until December 21st. That was his first and only touchdown of the season. That was against Buffalo. He didn't have a touchdown before that. The tight end position was always a touchdown machine for the Patriots, even when they were utilizing guys in the early days of the Patriots dynasty. You know, guys like Fourier that would come in or even, you know, you want to go back to the Bledsoe-Ben Coates connection.

That was, you know, pretty impressive. But they always used the tight end position as a receiver in the red zone. Absolutely. Even Wiggy did his job and got, you know, the ball when he needed to. He was actually instrumental in help moving the ball down the field in the drive that gave the Patriots their first Super Bowl titles. They've got a complete total of six on this roster. Do you think the Patriots are done here, or do you see another veteran tight end coming in, maybe even to displace one of these guys in Izzo or Lacoste? I think a trade could happen, or as we all know,

guys end up losing their jobs during camp. I really do think that this is it, though, this year. Other teams throughout the league are going to look at keeping their veterans more than they have in the past, as opposed to saving a buck here or there and trying to go for a cheaper option, simply because we don't have OTAs, simply because of the murkiness of how the league is going to play out this year. Time is not on anybody's side. And the more veterans that you have in camp, the better. So, yeah, I really need to answer your question. I think this is it.

I'm so glad that you mentioned the lack of OTAs, which it's hard to believe that OTAs would actually be starting, probably kicking off this week in the NFL and moving toward minicamp, which would be ready to happen in mid-June, which is absolutely unbelievable. Circumstances beyond your control can change your plans in the blink of an eye. But conversation for another day, folks. We'll keep it on football, I promise. And I'm glad that you mentioned the lack of preparation time, because I think that's going to be such a big factor in so many aspects of the Patriots roster building, not just the Patriots, every NFL team.

But again, this is Locked on Patriots, folks. We've got to keep it Patriots-centric, and I do believe that is the case. I don't think you're going to see teams, again, part with veterans that are so familiar with their system that it would take a lot of extra work and a lot of extra time that these teams simply do not have right now to break guys into new systems, new quarterbacks, new coaching staffs, and the ability to be able to make plays right off the bat. It just doesn't work that way. You need time to develop a synergy and they just don't have that this year. So again, I think you're probably looking

at one of these guys um either Lacoste or Izzo possibly making the team I think the undrafted free agents are a little bit of a long shot and I'm sorry to say that uh but I think that now when you take a look at the fact they spent two two solid draft choices to bring in guys like Dalton Keene and Devin Asiasi. I think they have high hopes for them. And Murph will transition to those new faces on the tight end depth chart in just a moment. Because when Murph and I continue here on Locked On Patriots, we're going to take a look at those two rookies. And also how the fullback position, yes folks, the fullback position might end up factoring into what the Patriots do at tight end. That and more when the Locked On Patriots podcast continues.

Folks, once again, my good friend Thomas Murphy joins me here to kick off Positional Depth Chart Week here on the Locked On Patriots podcast. And Murph, we're talking tight ends all day for the better part of the day. But we're also going to spring in a little bit of a fullback position. And I tease that just before we took a quick break. And when you look at Devin Asiasi and you look at Dalton Keene on this team, you said earlier that you believe that they are the best tight ends on this roster and they haven't taken an NFL snap yet. Obviously, the Patriots look at Devin Asiasi as the crown jewel of their tight end core this year.

He looks to be quote unquote tight end one. Dalton Keene's gaining some steam and I don't want to step on those toes just yet because I want to get into Dalton Keene in just a moment. But you watch footage the way I do. We look at players, we look at them, not just for the skills that they bring to the table, but the skills that they're going to bring to the Foxborough table, how they're going to fit in with how the Patriots do business. And the more I look at Devin Asiasi, the more I like him. I love his ability to run routes. I think he has such a balanced skill set that allows him to be that threat that they haven't had in quite some time. I'd like to see him improve a little when it comes to contested catches, but ultimately I'm impressed by what I see. Do you believe Devin Asiasi is going to be tight end one this year on this roster? And if so, how do you expect him to work with a new quarterback in Jarrett Stidham

and develop a relationship that we've seen so many Patriot quarterbacks have with tight ends throughout the years? I believe only time will allow that to develop. What I see out of Asiasi is a person on this roster that can finally exploit the scenes in the way that Bill Belichick and this offense like to do. He's somebody that's going to demand extra coverage when other guys are trying to contain his specific skill set and his size. He's the prototypical size for this position.

I think he's going to fit in fantastically here. I like the way he gets off the line. For the most part, I like the way he gets off the line. It's a little slow when he's got his hand in the dirt, but other than that, he is everything that you could possibly want in a, let's put it this way, a Gronk-lite mode. We don't really know what's going to happen right now. I'm not sure about his work ethic. There were some complaints about that at Michigan. But, you know, you're away from home for the first time.

Things at UCLA were much better than they were at Michigan. Everything that was coming out of the coaches at UCLA says that this kid is a worker. He has really good speed, especially up at the top. He's got good wiggle coming off the line. I like the way he works. And I think he's going to be able to do a lot of things. You touched on the fact that he runs the route trees really, really well. And I agree with that wholeheartedly. Absolutely. I think his hands, his ball skills, I think these are things right now that are going to endear him, especially to Jarrett Stidham. But I think it's going to make him a focal point,

maybe not the focal point in the offense this year. I mentioned his ability to make contested catches. You want to see him gain more consistency there. You want to see him finish through contact. I think that's something that Josh McDaniels. And the Patriots offensive coaching staff. Is going to work with this kid on. I think believe it or not.

I think a guy even like Lacoste or maybe even, you know, Izzo, if he's there in training camp, we'll be able to help him with that. These are things that those guys didn't do particularly well last year, but they know what the Patriots expect out of contested catches when it comes to tight ends. So maybe just the example of having them, of seeing them make these plays in practice might help him to develop a little bit. The other thing I'd like to see him maybe work on his technical skill as a run blocker. He might need to get a little bit stronger,

fill out his frame a little bit in order to be an effective blocker in this system. But again, I think he's a pretty good blocker and I think he'll end up doing that by filling out his frame. That's going to allow him to position his frame, be more confident in attacking the football, and that will also help him in contested catches as well.

So ultimately, I do like what Devin brings to the table, and I think that he can be a fairly effective tight end in this offense. A guy that really, I'll be very honest, Murph, and I said this last week here on Locked On Patriots, when the Patriots selected Dalton Keene, I was not really enamored with the pick. I thought maybe there were other options that were available that might have been a better fit. You and I were both pretty high on Adam Trotman from Dayton, and we looked at him as being the prototypical Patriot, or at least I did. I don't want to put words in your mouth, my friend. But the more I watched Dalton Keene, and after I found out about the retirement of James Devlin, this pick makes so much sense to me that I think he actually may have the chance to be the sleeper pick in this draft class,

along with Anthony Jennings on the defensive side of the ball. But on the offense, I think he could be one of the better offensive picks for the Patriots this year. I love his versatility. He can be used as a wing, a tight end, an H-back, or a fullback. And if you'll indulge me for one second, Murph, and folks, some of you have given me feedback about the H-back and questioned about whether or not I'm calling Dalton Keene a halfback. That's absolutely not the case.

You guys, most of you, know what the H-back is. That doesn't mean halfback, folks. I just want to clarify, because I did receive some confusing comments You guys, most of you know what the H-back is. That doesn't mean halfback, folks. I just want to clarify because I did receive some confusing comments over the weekend on that, and I just wanted to clarify. The H-back lines up similarly to a tight end, folks, in the scheme, but he's set back from the line of scrimmage, and therefore he's counted as one of the four backs in the offensive formation.

It doesn't mean he's a halfback. It doesn't mean he's a running back. It doesn't mean he's a running back. Simply, it's the way he lines up, but it really is more of a tight end. Dalton Keene played a lot of that in Virginia Tech, and I think that may give him a little bit of a leg up on the competition when it comes to making this roster because of the versatility there, and especially with James Devlin now gone, he could even line up in some fullback sets now the Patriots do have Danny Vitale and Jakob Johnson on the roster as well Murph when you look at Dalton Keene and you look at the contributions that he could make in that H-back role even a little bit when it comes to the fullback role and his ability to grow as a

tight end could he end up being the Patriots tight end of the future? He definitely could be. I prefer to call him a joker as opposed to an H-back. I think he fills the joker role very well, which is you just explained what it was. This is a kid that can line up all over the field. He was a running back in high school. He was a quarterback in high school. He's somebody that was probably, they tried to use him as best they could in college, but they just did not have the talent at other positions to allow him to excel in the way that you would in seeing a ball player that would have come out in the second, that would have been taken in the second round. I believe it is his unmined talent that's there, an unpolished gem, and I believe we're going to see over time him become the,

you know, you hate to hang a name of, of somebody on someone else with this kind of past, but he is, he he's Aaron Hernandez. He's going to fill that role perfectly. And I, and I,

I'm sorry, I don't want that but there's just nobody else that you can compare him to that that's what this kid is able to do on a football field you have to aaron was that joker what we were going to see out of him before he got all murdery and everything um was was going to set this league on fire. And I do believe that this kid has those same abilities. He was just in a place where they could not use him to that degree. He needs the other talent around him that is going to give him the opportunity to do things in the open field

and with yards after the catch that we haven't seen here in quite some time. Absolutely. And I'm glad that you mentioned Hernandez and not really glad that you mentioned him specifically, but the type of player that he was. Folks, you do have to separate, unfortunately, what Aaron Hernandez was in life and what he was on the football field. And when Rob Gronkowski was on the field and the two of them were in their game, it was almost impossible to defend either one of these guys. I mean, they really at times ran up and down the field at will. Now, Murph and I are not saying that Devin Asiasi and Dalton Keene are going to be the second coming of Hernandez and Gronk. But I think you see what the Patriots are trying to do here. And I don't believe it's going to

happen this year, but maybe in the next couple of years, if they can keep these guys in the fold, this could be something very interesting and something very exciting here in New England. Look, one thing that I don't think Keene gets enough credit for, and maybe it's because he didn't see enough action on the field, is his tenacity, his competitive nature in everything that he does. He really blocks through the whistle with such great effort. He goes up, will make the catch. He made an over-the-shoulder catch versus Pitt that, folks, if you haven't seen it, Google it or go on YouTube to look at this amazing catch versus Pitt, superb, really exciting, and gives you an opportunity to see what the Patriots saw in this kid and why they picked him so high.

I continuously hear from Pat's fans, oh, well, they wasted a pick. They could have had him in the next rounds and the next rounds. Well, Murph, we've talked about this several times. Bill Belichick doesn't really care what kind of draft grades he has on these guys. If he believes he needs to have a certain player and he thinks they're relatively worth the capital, he's about to surrender for it, he's going to do it. He's not going to worry about getting that type of value. Bill Belichick is all about draft value, folks.

I'm not saying he isn't, but at the same time, if he places a premium on a player, he's not going to worry about what guys like Mel Kiper or Todd McShay or anybody else that's evaluating the draft has this kid graded. If he likes him, he's going to take them. And I think that's exactly what he did with Dalton Keene here. And the other thing that a lot of people don't talk about is in using those draft picks to move up, he created more cap space right then and there because those were draft picks that he didn't have to take this year and use and fill up, you know, more of the cap that he didn't have.

You know, we were already trying to move people around and restructure stuff and moving those picks and not being able to move them into next year. He just said, I'm going to use them now, go up and get the guy that I want and not being able to move them into next year he just said i'm going to use them now go up and get the guy that i want and not take a shot a chance at all of him not being there the next time next time around absolutely without any question and again that's exactly what bill belichick does he will do quote unquote what's best for the football team maybe not what everyone else thinks is best for the football team i got myself in a little bit of trouble saying that a couple of weeks ago where people bring up, oh, we bench Malcolm Butler in the Super Bowl. Well, folks, we don't know the whole story there. I will say that. And second of all, I think if you probably press Bill against the fire,

he probably did what he thought was best. Now, was it what was best? Well, the jury's still out on that one. I don't necessarily agree with that decision, but I think I do have confidence in saying that Bill probably believed that it was in the best interest of the team to do what he did. And, you know, other than that, we'll we'll get into that another day, my friend, because that's a whole kettle of fish. We can open up and we need a week and a half to break that decision down. That's not even a kettle of fish. That's somebody reheating fish in the microwave at work. Yeah. Oh, yeah.

Yeah, that really is. Hey, who knows? Maybe we have the rise and fall of Butler. We'll have like a last dance type series on here, and Murph and I will break all that down here on Locked On Patriots. My good friend, you lend your wisdom and counsel like no other. That's why you are familiar here at Locked On Patriots. My good friend, you lend your wisdom and counsel like no other. That's why you are familiar here at Locked On Patriots. You are always there for the handoff when I'm looking to hand the ball off

and you carry the ball and you rumble into the end zone like no one else could. I thank you for joining me. Folks, you should already be following Murph. I know the vast majority of you are, but if you're not, shame on you. I'm sorry. But no, for any of our new listeners, follow the Count of Murphy Fisto on Twitter at TeamMurph207.

All of his columns, including the monster keys during the season and in the offseason, folks, they're always found on DieHardBostonSportsFans.com. Anytime you see one, point, click, learn. You will be a better football fan for it. I guarantee it. Also, never miss an episode of One Patriot's Place with Murph and our great mutual friend Steve Valistrieri. Thanks again, my good man. As always, honored and humbled by your presence.

No, bud, thank you so much for having me. Anytime. Pleasure is all mine. And so, Patriots fans, there is your look at the tight end position, along with a glimpse into the fullback position for your 2020 New England Patriots. And we will continue to align with my love for alliteration tomorrow when we take a deeper dive into the wide receivers. That's right, folks. I hinted at the play-on words last week, but tomorrow's episode will be all about the wide receivers on Wide Out Wednesday. And of course, each and every day I will continue to bring you

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