Magic: The Gathering Drive to Work Podcast - #421: Strengths and Weaknesses

Episode Date: March 24, 2017

In this podcast, I talk all about the importance of elements in your game having strengths and weaknesses. ...

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I'm pulling my driveway. We all know what that means. It's time for another drive to work. Okay, so today is a game designery talk. I'm going to talk, this is a topic that I got from my blog. The importances of strengths and weaknesses in your game. So I'm obviously going to use magic a lot to explain this, but this is a general principle I'm going to explain that's true for all games, not just magic. So why do games want to have strengths and weaknesses? The strength part probably isn't too hard to explain, although it is part of the bigger picture.
Starting point is 00:00:37 The weaknesses is a little trickier, but I'm going to explain it all. Why? Why should things be good at things and bad at things? Okay, so first off, let's explain a structural thing. So I've talked before about what the purpose of a game is. The purpose of a game is not to make things easy for the game player. I've often talked about how if you made, you know, when you make a lamp, if someone makes a lamp, the goal of the lamp is to turn the lamp on. And you want to make sure it's as easy as possible to turn on the lamp.
Starting point is 00:01:07 That the switch to turn it on is in the most obvious place, and how to turn it on and off is obvious. Normally when you design something, the whole goal of the design is to make it as easy to use, as functional as possible. But that's not what games do. The goal of a game is to challenge you. The goal of the game is to put up some resistance because it's the act of overcoming the obstacles that is the point of the game. That it's not like I'm supposed to make a set of rules for you. Like, the goal of the game is to push this red button. Okay, go. I push the red button. Ooh, I'm done.
Starting point is 00:01:41 Eh, not a very compelling game, the push the red button game. Probably not a big seller. So what we want in a game is we want to make sure that there are obstacles built in. We want to make sure that the act of achieving what you're achieving is not easy to do. And we want to make sure that our game is robust. We want to make sure that the game itself is both challenging and it's fun. Okay, so what does all this have to do with strengths and weaknesses? Okay, so first and foremost, your game is going to have some kind of structuring to it.
Starting point is 00:02:15 Some kind of factioning or, you know, something about your game. There will be choices to make for your player. Because part of making obstacles interesting is giving your opponent means to overcome the obstacles. So basically, when you make a game, you're like, okay, here is the goal of the game. You're supposed to do thing X. Here are the rules that explain why it's not so easy to do thing X. Because if thing X were easy to do, it wouldn't be fun,
Starting point is 00:02:42 and it wouldn't be a game. You know, like I said, the design of the game is to get in the way of the game player to make them work to have to solve it. Because what a game is doing is testing the player, is making them use their skills to figure it out. Okay, so what that means is, if I want you to solve the goal of my game and I make rules to do that, I need to give you choices. I've talked a lot about my GDC talk about why choices are important. Another big thing that are important is if I just give you only one option, well, then it's pretty clear what you need to do. If I'm trying to make it challenging for you, well, I give you many options because some of them may not work.
Starting point is 00:03:26 You know, I want to give you different choices of what to do. So because you want a game to have a lot of choices, and you tend to want customization, you want decisions, a lot of the reasons, I mean, I've talked about this in a bigger picture why you want them, but your game wants a lot of things that let the player have input on what they're doing. Because of that, most games need some kind of structure. And what that means is that you want to give your player choices, and usually to do that, you have different, I'll call them factions. It could just be different groupings. It could be, you know, the idea is, so in magic, we have colors. There's five colors of
Starting point is 00:04:04 magic, you know, that one of the ways to make it interesting is to say, okay, you know, the idea is, so in magic we have colors. There's five colors of magic. You know, that one of the ways to make it interesting is to say, okay, you've got to achieve this thing. I'm trying to drive my opponent from 20 down to zero. That's the goal of magic. And to do that, I'm going to give you different resources to do that. Now magic, you know, it's a game of magic, obviously. That's the name. But I'm going to give you, there's five different kinds of magic. And on top of that, we also have artifacts that are no color. So, you know, in some ways there's a sixth way to do it. So I'm giving you a bunch of different things you can choose from to do it. I'm building a structure for you to choose. Okay. And the reason that is crucial is that I want my, I want my players to have to figure out how to do things.
Starting point is 00:04:45 And in order to do that, I want to give them choices. And because I want them to bond with the game, because I want them to sort of get connected, I want to have decisions. I want to have customization. I want to have exploration. I want them to have a tree of decisions they get to explore and a tree of options they get to explore.
Starting point is 00:05:04 I want to have lots of different things that they may or may not want to use. Okay. So now I've explained that a game has to have component elements to it. That to make a compelling game, usually, you want to have choices. Now, the simpler the game,
Starting point is 00:05:20 the less choices there are. You know, tic-tac-toe doesn't have tons of choices. You're mostly picking where you put things. But I'm talking about a game that's a little bit deeper than tic-tac-toe. That you want to make sure that there are different things to do. And you want to make sure that your different factions are... Let's say, for example, I make five factions, like in Magic.
Starting point is 00:05:43 And one of them is really good and the other four suck. Well, then I would just use the really good one, you know. If, for example, in Magic, you know, I mean, one could argue blue was overpowered, but let's say, for example, I made the game and, you know, one color is the only way to win and the other four colors just aren't nearly as good as the one color, you'll play the one color and that isn't as compelling a game. So what that means is you want to take the components of your game and you want to make sure that each component has reasons you'd want to use it and reasons why maybe you don't want to use it so that you would think of using other components.
Starting point is 00:06:19 So in Magic, this was what Richard Garfield originally came up with was called the color pie. So the idea is, okay, so let's take magic, I mean, it's my, obviously, the thing I was talking about, but as the example of today's thing. Okay, so Richard created a mana system that allowed you to slowly build up over time to play spells. The way magic works is you have your lands and you have your spell costs. And the idea is I get to play a land every turn. I don't always have a land to play,
Starting point is 00:06:53 but I'm slowly building up my mana so that I can cast bigger and bigger spells. That system puts you toward only playing one resource because in order to cast a spell, I need the right color. And if I just play one color well I'm guaranteed that I'll have the color I need and so what Richard realized is that it's important to give each color different strengths because he wants to and weaknesses because the idea is I want you to play a color but if you only play one color I need to make sure that there's reasons you would explore a second
Starting point is 00:07:33 color like for example magic's mana system says to you only play one color you are just in a better world the mana system works better if you're only playing one color. Okay, so how exactly does Richard get people to play more than one color? And the answer is strengths and weaknesses. By taking each color and giving it some strengths and giving it some weaknesses, what you do is you create this encouragement system that says, you know what, I might need more colors. So for example, I'm playing one color. Let's say I'm playing red. Well, built into red are some weaknesses. For example, red is very short-sighted, so it tends to have a faster game and has less long-term elements. Also, sometimes
Starting point is 00:08:20 a very blatant weakness, like red blows things up. That's how red, red's really big on destruction. But how do you blow up something that isn't tangible? And so red has trouble with enchantments. Because enchantments, I, I, I, you know, a person I can throw a lightning bolt at. A land I can, you know, I can, I, I can do things destructively to it. An artifact, I can literally blow the artifact up. But what do I do to a non-tangible thing? Red can't deal with that.
Starting point is 00:08:48 So the issue is, but on the plus side, red, for example, is really good at direct damage. Red's really good at destroying things. It's really good at, it has the most aggressive game of the five colors. It can come up very fast, and it has haste so the creature's going to attack right away. And it's best at direct right away and it has its best at direct damage so it's really good at sort of dealing with creatures and doing damage directly to players. So the idea is there's a reason why you want to play red but if I play only red I start
Starting point is 00:09:16 having problems. Let's say for example my opponent is playing a really potent enchantment. What do I do in red? I don't have an easy answer to that problem. So what happens is it says, oh, well, if I play a second color, that second color can fill in for my weaknesses and give me access to new strengths.
Starting point is 00:09:36 So the idea is the reason I'm encouraged to consider a second color is because of the fact that built into each color are strengths and weaknesses. You know, it actually, the entire color pie in Magic was created as a means to encourage people to spread out and think about playing more than one color. Now, the mana system does a good job of punishing if you play too many colors, so there's a nice tension that goes on in the game, where
Starting point is 00:10:05 one thing about the game says play as few colors as possible, which is the mana system, and one thing about the game says play as many colors as you can, which is the color pie, because each color has strengths. The more colors you play, the access to more strengths you have. Now, another
Starting point is 00:10:22 thing that this does, which is very important, is it's not, I mean, we want to make sure that you have choices to make. We want to make sure that each choice gives you different options. But another thing is, one of the things that, for example, one of the things that makes the color pie sing is that the colors make sense, that the colors have a flavor to them, and that, you know, Richard didn't just say I'm
Starting point is 00:10:46 just going to take all my mechanics and divvy them up in five he said no no I'm going to come up with a system that makes sense flavorfully and then I'm going to use that as a guidance to figure out where I put my mechanics so the idea it's not I mean one of the things that's neat about the color pie is each of the colors it is not as as if Richard introduced the idea of the essence of what the color is. If I say to somebody, what do you think the color white does? Then people will start guessing things that white actually does. You know, white being defensive or being the color of the goody two-shoe characters or, you know, having the more moral sense.
Starting point is 00:11:24 A lot of that would make sense. Likewise, black magic, you know, the term black magic already existed, you know, there's a feel for it. And that, what Richard did was, he said, okay, I'm going to figure out how to take the flavors I want, and this is where strengths and weaknesses become important, not just from a structural gameplay standpoint,
Starting point is 00:11:42 but also from a flavor standpoint. That the fact that, like even me explaining to you why Red can't destroy enchantments, it is, oh, Red's destructive, but it's destructive in a very physical way. When I run into something that isn't quite as physical, Red goes, I don't know how to deal with the thing I can't blow up. How do I deal with that? And so its weaknesses also give identity to it. The fact that red is the fastest color, meaning, you know,
Starting point is 00:12:11 one of the things that we wanted to get about red is red is this very short-term, you know, short, like, do it in the moment, don't think of it as long-term ramifications color. So that gives it an identity that we were able to mechanically give it. And the nice thing about that is it gave it an identity and it allowed us to have strengths and weaknesses that reinforce that identity. Oh, well red's really good at being aggressive. Well, let's give it a lot of aggressive cards. One of the strengths is aggressiveness. Oh, red is really short-term thinking, so it doesn't have a good long-term strategy, okay, there's one of the weaknesses,
Starting point is 00:12:46 that we make red more about doing things fast, and that if that strategy doesn't work, red starts to have more problems. And so the strengths and weaknesses don't only just give mechanical identity, they also sort of define the flavor. They sort of actually, they mesh it. That part of what makes,
Starting point is 00:13:05 and I talk about this all the time, that when people talk about bends and breaks of the color pie, usually what makes a break, or one of the major things that makes a break, is it undermines the inherent essence of the weakness of the color. If a color isn't supposed to do something,
Starting point is 00:13:19 and it's what defines a weakness for the color, undoing that is where you start getting breaks in the color pie. That if you made a red card that said, oh, I have a really flavorful red way of destroying enchantments. I'm like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Red's inability to destroy enchantments is a key part of its color. That's one of the things that makes you go,
Starting point is 00:13:36 oh, I have problems dealing with this issue. I might need a second color. I, by myself, can't necessarily deal with everything. Okay, which ties us into the next thing, which is strategy. You want strategy in your game, right? You want the people to be able to, with time, figure out, once again, you'll see, by the way, like, you know, I'm talking a lot of the components, you know, that tie into the 10 things every game needs, which is a different podcast. I talk about strategy and rules and a goal and all the things. This all
Starting point is 00:14:09 ties together. All my talks tie together in one big mega talk. So anyway, you want strategy in your game, right? You want there to be reasons that people get better with time, that people can use their experience to enhance further time playing the game. So the thing that strengths and weaknesses do is, one of the things about the game is, you don't necessarily have to advertise your strengths and weaknesses. In fact, what you want to do is, there's a thing in writing where they say, show, don't tell.
Starting point is 00:14:44 One of the signs of sort of a novice writer, a screenwriter especially, is that if they want to get a point across, they have the characters physically, or sorry, verbally say it. Oh, wow, I have a problem with closed-in spaces because in my youth I once was trapped in a closet. You know, what you want is if your character is claustrophobic, don't have him say, you know, he or she's claustrophobic. Trap them somewhere in a tight space. Watch them panic. Maybe do a flashback of them in their youth, whatever caused this thing in the first play. You know what I'm saying? Show them suffering from the thing they suffer from. Don't just say it. And the same is true for games, which is that, I mean I if you listen to my podcast and stuff and that's for the more advanced I don't think the first time you start playing Magic
Starting point is 00:15:30 the first thing you do is listen to my podcast is we want you to explore the game and figure out what colors are good at what are they bad at you know you want to sort of understand that it gives you things to learn you know part of getting better at the game is understanding the nuances of where things
Starting point is 00:15:47 are good and bad. And because magic keeps reinventing itself, we keep making more cards, in any one environment, things that might have been true in one environment might not always be true. That Red's weaknesses can ebb and flow some. Not that they ever go away completely,
Starting point is 00:16:04 but it's possible in one world, well, Red's weaknesses can ebb and flow some. Not that they ever go away completely, but it's possible in one world, well, Red's weakness to this problem isn't quite as bad as it is in other worlds. Or, you know, Red could have a weakness that is normally not a big deal, but in this environment, that weakness gets played up because the fact it has it is much more an issue.
Starting point is 00:16:21 For example, Black has trouble with artifacts. It doesn't destroy artifacts. Black uses death a lot, and the problem is you can't use death to kill an artifact. But you can't use death to kill an artifact. So black has trouble getting rid of artifacts. Normally,
Starting point is 00:16:35 not a giant deal. Black has a lot of answers to things. But in an artifact block, in a set all about artifacts, where artifacts are just at a higher amount than normal, that weakness starts becoming more of a thing for black. It's a bigger issue. And so the strengths and weaknesses give your player the opportunity to try to figure things out, and as they figure things out, it starts giving them new challenges.
Starting point is 00:17:03 Like, one of the neat things about having strengths and weaknesses is you have to figure out what the strengths and weaknesses are, how it's affecting you, and then adapt accordingly. Either I have to figure out when I want to bring in another color and magic, when I want to swap colors, or I need to figure out, and this is what leads to a lot of fun gameplay, is okay, I have a challenge I need to deal with problem x I'm playing with color y maybe color y and z and I got to figure out how to solve that problem the resources I have at hand okay I'm playing mono red and my opponent has an enchantment okay well how do I deal with it I can't destroy the enchantment is there another way to do it
Starting point is 00:17:42 like for a long time one of red's big adversaries was circles of protection which were enchantment, is there another way to deal with it? Like for a long time, one of Red's big adversaries was Circles of Protection, which were enchantments that the opponent could use to stop damage. And Red is all about speed and beating you quickly and doing damage. Well Circles of Protection, especially Circles of Protection Red, was very effective. But one of the things is we gave Red tools, sort of sideways tools, to deal with Circles of Protection. And one of the key, to deal with Circles of Protection. And one of the key things was figuring out how to use that. How do I find tools that don't answer the problem maybe in the most direct way, but answer it in an indirect way?
Starting point is 00:18:14 And the idea is by having strengths and weaknesses built in, you can sort of lean on your strengths and try to work around your weaknesses. It gives you something, you know, like I said, one of the goals of your game is to make your player challenge themselves and figure things out and sort of rise to the occasion. You know, if you talk about what makes you feel good when you play a game, I remember Erin Hoffman from a GDC talk a couple years ago
Starting point is 00:18:40 talked about the definition of fun. And I said, or she said, that it was the idea of overcoming, you know, you want to have something that's hurting you, and then through some sort of mastery loop, you overcome it. So what that means is, okay, I'm suffering in some way. Oh, I figure out that by doing some sequence of events, I can solve that problem. And then I do that sequence of events, I figure that out. And then the act of not being in that problem anymore, of getting out of it is very compelling. And that is what she says, that's what is fun. I figured out how to do it. You know, in gaming, a lot of fun is going, there's a problem. What can I do about it? Oh, oh, okay. That is, I could do this. You know, if I do like, one of the neat things about playing? Oh, oh, okay, that is, I could do this, you know, if I do, like, one of the
Starting point is 00:19:26 neat things about playing Magic, for example, is you get yourself into trouble, and you might say, okay, okay, how do I get out of this? And you figure out some multi-turn plan to do it, and like, okay, my one route to victory is this thing. That's not super likely, but it's my only route to victory, so what I'm going to do is dedicate all my resources to get into that route to victory. And I'm going to take advantage of my strengths I have, you know, work around my weaknesses to get there. And when you do that, when you accomplish it, when you have some obstacle in your way and you overcome it,
Starting point is 00:19:56 it is very, very fun. And so, you know, like I say, I don't think I have to sell people why to make things good. Of course you want things that are good. The harder sell is why things should be bad. Where's the coolness of bad? And one of the things that I remember, this example is from Whack and Side of the Head, my favorite book by Roger Venick, a book on creative thinking.
Starting point is 00:20:21 He never heard me mention it, but I mention it all the time. He talks about how one of the things that's interesting is to take concepts and examine them and say, is this always true? And one of the things about strengths is that, you know, strengths are always an advantage and weaknesses are always a disadvantage. And the answer is no.
Starting point is 00:20:40 Sometimes weakness can be an advantage. How can that be? For example, let's take the fuse. Okay, so one of the things is you have a circuit box in which you have all your electrical things running in. You can turn it on and off. You don't want some sort of surge of some kind to blow up your electrical box. What you want is you want a controlled way to make sure if something goes wrong that it is not damaging to you.
Starting point is 00:21:08 So that's where the fuse comes from. The fuse is designed to be the weakest link in the circuit. The fuse is designed to go, well, if anything's going to break, I'm going to break. And I'm a little, I'm a little chippy nothing, I'm a little tiny thing. So, you know, getting more of me
Starting point is 00:21:23 is easy. I'm very expendable. And so being the weak element is a strength. A fuse takes advantage of its weakness as a strength. So that's the other thing that I'm trying to say is that part of making a game exciting is you want to make sure that the players, like the weaknesses can be at times used tactically by your players in a way that can be advantageous and for you as a
Starting point is 00:21:51 player sometimes having a weakness allows you to do something that you couldn't normally do that weakness is a tool it weakness is a positive thing for you the game builder the game designer because you can use the weakness to help direct things, to help create the system you want. Now, the other thing that it does, in a larger sense, is the combination of strengths and weaknesses builds what we call a metagame. So what a metagame is, actually there's two different kinds of metagames. One metagame I talk all the time is the idea that your game is more than just the game. That's one definition of metagames. One metagame I talk all the time is the idea that your game is more than just the game. That's one definition of metagame. The other is the idea
Starting point is 00:22:27 that there's an interconnected web of strategies saying, okay, I want to play this game. I want to be competitive. What's the way to win? And what you want is you want there to be
Starting point is 00:22:43 an evolution. Like, for example, if there's one best strategy, and all you need to do is play that one strategy, and you'll always win, and that's what you do, that's kind of boring. Right? It's like, oh, oh, oh, I just do thing X. Well, okay, I mean, maybe the act of figuring that out is interesting, but then the game gets boring. But if you say, okay, you know, for example, my opponent is doing a certain strategy. Well, because the game is built into its strengths and weaknesses, I can take advantage of their weaknesses to try to find a counter answer.
Starting point is 00:23:15 You know, like for example, if I'm playing somebody and they're playing a mono-color deck, because we've built in weaknesses to the colors that if you know what your opponent's playing, you can sort of aim to figure, you know, if you know what they're doing, you now are entitled to build things that prey on the weaknesses of your opponent. That having the
Starting point is 00:23:37 strengths and weaknesses means that you can say, okay, I'm going to take advantage of my strengths and I'm going to take advantage of knowing my opponent's weaknesses to deal with it. And what the metagame is about is, we like to talk about a metagame having a lot of a rock-paper-scissors quality to it, meaning that some element beats another element, which beats the third element, which beats the first element.
Starting point is 00:23:58 Now, rock-paper-scissors don't have to have three components always, but the idea is, when we say a rock-paper-scissors environment, it means that everything has an answer and that there's a circular quality to the answers. Meaning that what is good at any one moment in time has to do with the combination of what people are playing. And the easy way to think about it is, if 75% of the audience is playing rock, I want to bring paper to the tournament. But if 75% of the people are playing paper, well want to bring paper to the tournament. But if 75% of the people are playing paper, well, then I want to be playing scissors.
Starting point is 00:24:28 You know, you want to figure out what is dominant in the combination of what people are playing. And the reason that's possible, the reason that you get rock, paper, scissors metagames is because there are weaknesses inherent in the system. You know, if I said, I'm just going to make one faction the best thing
Starting point is 00:24:43 and put no weaknesses in it and it's just awesome, well then why would you ever play anything else? Why would you ever do anything else? But because there are weaknesses built in, that means if something gets good, okay, now there's ways and answers to combat it, to stop it. You know, that you make, like, having vulnerabilities is important in your game
Starting point is 00:25:03 because you want people to be able to take advantage of the vulnerabilities. You want people, you know, you want weaknesses there because you want to make sure that there is a constant flux of what is going on. And so it both allows you to have the strategy to sort of learn about it, but it allows you to have the larger essence of the game, the metagame will have some flux to it because, you know, if everybody... I mean a real common thing that will happen is something is good and people know it's good and they start playing more of that
Starting point is 00:25:34 because it's good, it's winning. And then people say, okay, I know this thing is winning, let's figure out what beats that thing. And they build something that's that's designed to beat that thing. But the act of making it beat that thing and they build something that's designed to beat that thing. But the act of making it beat that thing, the act of getting the strength necessary to combat that other deck's weaknesses open up new weaknesses. You know, let's say for example
Starting point is 00:25:56 because one of the things that's neat about the game is there are threats and there are answers and that not every faction can not every faction has every and that not every faction can, not every faction has every threat and not every faction has every answer. And so the idea is you create this interesting combination where I'm constantly sort of figuring out what threats I want to win with and figuring out what answers I need to answer other people's
Starting point is 00:26:19 threats. And so if you think of strengths and weaknesses as being threats and answers, the fact that you mix up the threats and answers makes things very robust. Now in general, strengths do a lot of good things psychologically for your game. You want your players to have a feeling of power. You want your players to have a feeling of purpose. You want your players to have a feeling of agency. Strengths do that. You know, one of the neat things is when I'm playing magic, for example, whatever color I'm playing, we make sure there are strategies that are very, you know, I want to be
Starting point is 00:26:56 the guy that just counter spells everything. I'm playing what we call permission, where I stop whatever you do and I'm being tricky and sneaky. I got to play blue. Blue does it and does it very well. whatever you do and I'm being tricky and sneaky, I get to play blue. Blue does it and does it very well. But the act of doing that, blue has inherent weaknesses. So if I want to feel that way, I get to do that. I get it like if I really like the feel of countering a spell and going, ha ha, sorry, your thing doesn't happen, okay, I get to play blue. If I really like sort of messing with you and getting in your mind, making you discard cards and, you know, I want, that gets me black. You know, if I want to be defensive and protect things and sort of, you know, play a little bit more of a defensive game, I get to be white. If I want to blow things up and be very aggressive and in your face, I get
Starting point is 00:27:38 to be red. You know, if I want to sort of like slowly build up and make giant creatures and sort of like have this really big, you know, overrun you with these creatures, well, that gets to be green. So by giving things strength and giving things weaknesses, I really, or well, by giving them strengths, I give them a sense of power, a sense of agency, a sense of, you know, a potency. I'm like, this is what this is. And there's a really great feeling when things are working
Starting point is 00:28:07 and you have the identity really good. That strengths really, and strengths encourage action. Strengths make you do things. Okay, I'm going to thing X. I'm going to do thing X. So strengths are very good in empowering the player and making the player, you know what I'm saying? Like, there's a lot of vicariousness in games
Starting point is 00:28:28 that sometimes in life you feel weak because, you know, you can't always do what you want to do in real life. But in games, because you have the control, you're like, I'm going to, you know, I'm going to play magic, I'm going to be a powerful wizard, I'm going to have powerful spells,
Starting point is 00:28:41 and I'm going to summon mighty things, and, you know, and there's a really sense of vicariously being powerful. And strength let you do that. Having strengths in your game, having things you can be good at, and really, you know, make you feel awesome. Now, the funny thing
Starting point is 00:28:58 is, I think when you look at weaknesses, people feel like, oh, but weaknesses, you know, weaknesses don't give me that feeling of power. But one of the things I remind people of is when you, I'll go to fiction for this example. When you write a character, characters have strengths, but the funny thing is they're more defined by their weaknesses than their strengths. You know, you want your character to have strengths. You want them to be good at things. You know, you want your character to excel.
Starting point is 00:29:30 And so, obviously, I want my character to be able to do things that normal people can't do. You know, or at least be good at something. Something about my character, there's some place they excel. You know, and so I get to show people, watch my character excel. But is it exciting if my character has no weaknesses, no negatives to them, no flaws? No, it's not. That what makes characters shine is the fact that they have inherent flaws to them. And in a game, part of what makes the flavor work really well, part of what makes it feel more real,
Starting point is 00:30:03 part of what makes it feel, you know, that creates the opportunities that you need. Like I said, fun is about overcoming obstacles, that you need the obstacles, and that there is a very real sense to feeling weak in games, that part of what you're trying to do is you want the sense of power,
Starting point is 00:30:24 but you also want the idea that at times there are weaknesses, and that grounds your game. It makes it feel more human. It makes it feel more real. And it creates the opportunities for joy. And that, yes, there's great thrill in doing the thing that's powerful, but there's also thrill in sort of figuring out how to, what the weaknesses are and how to overcome that.
Starting point is 00:30:50 And so what I'm trying to say today is, strengths and weaknesses are not opposites of each other. I know it sounds like they're opposites, but from a game design standpoint, they're tools. In fact, they're tools that work in conjunction with each other. The strengths and weaknesses
Starting point is 00:31:07 aren't in game design terms. It's not like if I give strengths, I have to give up weakness or something. They're not opposites. It's more of, it allows me to make something that has a depth to it.
Starting point is 00:31:20 One of the days, I'll do a podcast all about the importance of depth. But one of the things in general is, when you build something, you want to make sure that it feels that there are different things to explore and different avenues and that one of the neat things about having strengths and weaknesses is you create the sense of depth.
Starting point is 00:31:35 You get to see, oh, there's interesting trade-offs. It's like, oh, well, I can be really good at thing A and B, but bad at C and D. Or, oh, I can be good at B and C and okay at A, but bad at D and E. Or I can be good at C and E and horrible at B, but okay at D. You know, and that's a lot of the choices you make is trying to figure out where you want to, you know, the layering and nuance that you want between the strengths and the weaknesses. you know, the layering and nuance that you want
Starting point is 00:32:03 between the strengths and the weaknesses. And the, hopefully, I mean, like my goal of today, I'm almost done, but my goal of today
Starting point is 00:32:11 is to make you realize that strengths are a tool to make your player feel good and give purpose and give direction. So are weaknesses.
Starting point is 00:32:24 Everything strengths does, weaknesses do to a certain extent, but in a different regard. I mean, strengths are the thing that make you feel powerful and make you feel potent and give you agency. Weaknesses are the things that challenge yourself
Starting point is 00:32:38 and make you sort of think and problem solve. But combined together, that is the essence of what they are, sort of combined, that gives the game, and the elements of the game, the factions of the game, sort of a realistic feel. I don't know, maybe realism is not 100%, it gives it a human feel, how about that? I talk all the time about how if you want your game to succeed you have to understand how humans function um humans just in psychological terms humans
Starting point is 00:33:12 need strengths and weaknesses to to do what they do that um you know you without without having your strengths you wouldn't feel good about, I can do things. But also, without having your weaknesses, you wouldn't feel like you accomplished things. You wouldn't feel like you, you wouldn't have the satisfaction of overcoming things.
Starting point is 00:33:37 And that both of those are very key. So, my walk away today is, when you're designing your game, try to figure out, in each component that you're doing, what are the component strengths and what are their weaknesses. And if you find that any one component has no strengths or has no weaknesses, or not enough strengths and not enough weaknesses, that's a problem. That you really need to embrace both strengths and weaknesses
Starting point is 00:34:04 as key tools to customizing your game. And that one of the things that you should be asking at some point is you should be looking at the different components and saying, okay, what is the strength of this strategy? What is the weakness of this strategy? What's the strength of this component? What's the weakness of this component? What's the strength of this aspect? You know, go through all the different pieces of your game and say, okay, what makes my,
Starting point is 00:34:30 what makes my player feel good? What makes them have that sense of power? And what are they overcoming? You know, what, what, what can't they do that makes them look elsewhere? And when you do that, when you combine and when you figure out how do you strengthen weaknesses properly, you will make a game that is just much richer to play, that is much more fun, that has had strategy, it's more long lasting. You know, all the different things, if you run through all my 10 things every game needs, you know, strengths and weaknesses weave their way in and out of that. You know, it helps you, you know, you want your rules to help reinforce the strengths
Starting point is 00:35:03 and weaknesses. You want the goal to be something that makes people have to rely on their strengths and overcome their weaknesses. Part of getting strategy, part of getting flavor, part of even creating inertia, part of getting your catch-up feature, all these different components of the game can be woven in by using your strengths and weaknesses properly in how you build your game and so as I drive my daughter to school
Starting point is 00:35:30 I will say think about that each time you're working on any component of your game always sort of question yourself and say okay does this component have I pushed strengths in this component and have I pushed weaknesses in this component and that in the larger sense of the game, you know,
Starting point is 00:35:46 is there reasons that doing this will help me and the reasons that doing this will hurt me? And what you will find is properly used that strengths and weaknesses will make your game a better game. Okay, I'm now at Rachel's school, so you all know what that means. It means it's the end of my drive to work. So instead of talking magic, it's time for me to be making magic. I'll see you guys next time.

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