Magic: The Gathering Drive to Work Podcast - #565: Replies with Rachel 4

Episode Date: August 24, 2018

My eldest daughter, Rachel, is off to college, but before she left, I was able to get in one more podcast with her. We chose to continue with our mailbag series "Replies with Rachel," where she and I answer questions from all of you.

I'm pulling away from the curb. We all know what that means. It's time to drive to work. And it was my kids' last day, Adam and Sarah's last day of school. So we came to see them out. But now, we are headed to work because Rachel and I are about to go to VidCon. So Rachel, say hi. Hi. Anyway, what I realized was, we're about to go to my work so one of my coworkers can drive us to the airport. But it just dawned on me this morning that this was the last time that I think Rachel and I are going to drive to work together. So we decided to do one last podcast.

So one last, we're going to do a replies with Rachel. And that is a mailbag column where you guys write in and then Rachel and I answer your questions. and that is a mailbag column where you guys write in, and then Rachel and I answer your questions. So as a final, before Rachel goes off to college, as a final time, we thought we'd do a last replies to Rachel. So the way it works is I post it on my Twitter, ask for questions. We got a bunch of questions, which are printed up in front of Rachel.

She gets to pick whatever question she wants. She'll read it aloud, and then she and or I will answer, depending on what the question is, and we'll do that until I get to work. That's the order of the day. Okay, so Rachel, why don't you start with the first question? Okay, so if I pronounce any of these names wrong, so SpursDiceRolling at S-G-J-M-C-Gowan said, how do you think being a game designer has affected your dad's parenting? I can't do anything different. Well, how does it... We don't take as many trips.

Like you told us, you took a lot of trips and stuff. But then obviously you had family and then you took less trips. Right, I traveled less. I traveled less. I used to travel a lot. How many trips do you do now? I tend to do two a year now. When Adam and Sarah were born, the deal I struck with your mom was that I would only

travel twice a year. There's a few exceptions, but usually I only travel twice a year. And what are those two things normally? Well, usually one of them is San Diego Comic Con, because I do love San Diego Comic Con. And the other, like this year I went to Grand Prix Las Vegas. Last year I went to HazCon.

The year before that, I don't remember where I went. I mean, usually I pick some event. The people at Wizards know that I don't do a lot of traveling, so they kind of know they have an event to talk to me about, and so there's some jockeying to figure out what the event should be. I don't think that's the only thing, but typically it's pretty late. If you're ever gone for something, it's typically just like a normal day, except Mom doesn't want to cook, so she'll just take us out to different restaurants that's the only thing that

changes that's true well you also get to buy lunch at school that's that's right oh yeah we could buy normally i make lunches for the kids and so when i'm out of town they just look laura says buy lunch at school and then dinner well i'll take you over dinner so the funny thing is she makes dinner when i'm home so i'm not sure why my absence makes her not make dinner. I would say food stuff, but there's only four of us. And then anything else that's sort of affected? Mostly it's the traveling, I think. I mean, here's the thing that I think affects me,

maybe you just don't think about it, is our parties. Oh, yeah. Well, you're very exuberant. That's just you generally. No, no, but what I mean is one of the things we do at parties is we design games for the parties. I guess, but it's not like it's like charades picture. I mean, like, what's the most complicated game you had to design for a

party? Well, I do the game show on the cookie party. I know that. And I mean, that's a serious, I mean, some of them are things like charades, but some of them are also brand new, made up, so. But anyway, I don't know how much. I guess that helps, yeah. I mean, I'm not really sure what being a game designer

how it impacts you guys. There's not too much. Yeah, not too much. I mean, I make games for parties. I use my gaming skills for parties. There's a related question down here by a different person named Dominic Jablonski at DirtDom90 who said,

did your dad use a lot of Magic the Gathering slang when you were growing up? Slang? Like, I know, like, you're confusing, like, our lingo. Well, I mean, there is slang. I don't use it with you guys.

I know, because mom's going to do that thing where, like, no one doesn't need to do what you're saying. Yeah, if you've ever heard me with other Magic players just chatting,

you might go, what are they talking about? But I don't use that language at all. You're confusing with our slang. Like, when Sarah and I talk sometimes, like, what's, what's the slang even most kids use? Well, you guys use teenager slang that I don't know. Like, what have we taught you?

What have we taught you? Well, the one that bloggers thought was so funny was we were on a family trip, and somehow we got onto the topic of slang that the kids use, and I ended up making a comic. Remember this? I think you showed me. I made a comic where I said, what is it, like, I'm in fleek with the dink memes or something like that.

Oh, that was a funny one. And you're like, thanks, blogger dog. I'm in fleek with the dink memes. Yeah, I asked blogger dog to give me teen slang so I could use teen slang with you. That was funny. Anyway. Fleek is worse than dink. Memes is more like I could use teen slang with you. That was funny. Anyway. Plague is worse.

Dank memes is more like internet-y, but that's fine. Okay, all right. Baracius. It's like B-A-R-R-A-C-I-U-S. Okay. I don't know. It says, what was both of your most memorable moments from rosewater game night and rachel do you plan to continue the tradition when you're off to college most traditional game oh i remember

i forget where this was we have like a five minute video oh that's what i was gonna say we have like a five minute video of you and sarah i forget when we were doing this okay first of all before we get to that let's say to that for those that don't know Rosewater game night is on Friday nights we play games and we also have movie nights

and Saturday's movie night at the Rosewater movie night we have fun at the Rosewater so we play different games we play more party games and stuff less core games a little more

party-ish games it's fun on the holidays then we get new games yeah we get new games on the holidays okay so one day we were doing something.

I think Sarah came up with this. It was a game where you put a cookie on your forehead, and then you have to be the first person to get it from your forehead to your mouth. But the trick was that you guys were lying down on the ground, because usually people are, like, standing up so they can, like, tilt it, but you guys were lying, like, on the ground. Right, so Sarah challenged me. This was during a family game night.

Sarah challenged me, so I said, okay, and then Laura decides to film it I don't know why she decided to film it but anyway it took me so long to get that cookie in my mouth it's five minutes

and you think it's only funny for the first minute and then it just keeps getting funnier and you don't know that's the magic of this video the magic of this video is that it's so long

and you don't expect it to be funny for that long but then it's really funny because you keep laughing and then your face turns red and then you get nowhere you just laugh and laugh and the cookie gets nowhere if i said to you watch me for five minutes try to get a cookie from my forehead to my mouth you wouldn't think that would be funny for five minutes well you just keep laughing but then your face gets red and then you do nothing like sarah got it in like 30 seconds to a minute and you're just sitting there laughing like you are right now where your

face just squinches up and like you don't move and you're in like paralyzed shock we've watched that video so many times other than that i remember the one time we were drawing like uh we did like a like a drawing game and we said to draw a hamburger and you just draw a baguette and we just like roasted you for that because we're like that's a baguette you're like to draw a hamburger, and you just draw a baguette. And we just, like, roasted you for that. Because we were like, that's a baguette. And you're like, that's a hamburger. We're like, no, Dad, it's a baguette. It was a hamburger. It was not a hamburger.

It was a patty. It was a very long, wide, stretched hamburger. It was a bibs and bibs hamburger. It was a patty. It was a baguette. If you take a hamburger and draw it, like, the same size as a baguette, they're not that far apart. I think it's almost, I don't think it's going to be more memorable than the game. I mean, one of the things that's a lot of fun is that we

will try a lot of different games and get new games. I mean, we replay games that we enjoy. And the other thing that's interesting is the way it works is we play two games every Rosewater Family Game Night. One of which is picked by one of the kids and one of which is picked by one of the parents, which is usually me.

And so then we rotate through the kids and different kids like different games. And so my favorite types of games are like party games are the ones I broke with my friends. I like playing Red Flags. It's a game called What Do You Mean, which is funny. There's Super Fight. There's the classic Cards Against Humanity. There's Joking Hazard made by the guys who made the Sinai and Happiness comics. That's a funny one.

And I asked if I planned to continue the tradition when I'm off in college. I am going to a much artsier school, so they have more of an inkling to hopefully participate in game nights. But you're going to take games with you, right? I'll take games with me, yeah. I mean, hopefully, yeah. You'll find people who play games. Because the way that I'm going to be living in my dorm is I'm going to be living with a bunch of other people, more than one person.

I have my own separate bedroom, but we're all sharing a common living space. So perhaps there will probably be a good chance for people to play games with. Yeah, okay, okay. That would be a strong evening. Nice question. Mark Chatra at 09M Chatra.

I don't know how to pronounce his name. I feel like a very bad teacher. It says, what's your favorite story of your dad's pseudo-fame? Pseudo-fame? What's that mean? I would like to say

it's actual fame. Like, actual fame? I mean, I'm only famous in a small group, yeah. Yeah, so you're only famous when people actually know, like, when you go to, like,

a game store or when you go to, like, a specific, like, magic convention, then you're noticed. If you're anywhere else, I think people really like seeing you. Okay, so what's your favorite story of my...

I don't, I remember this one time I went to, like, we went to this game place that was called, like, the Castle Game Stuff or whatever, and some dude was just, like, freaking out over you, and I was, like, I was, like, kind of young, and I remember some dude was freaking out, but he was, like, oh my god,

so I was like, oh my god, and I'm just, like, running around, like, the game store, and I was just... That's the only one I remember, because I freaking out, but you were like, oh my god, it's so gross, and when they go to the back of the room, they're like, oh my god, and they're just running around the game store, and I was just, that's the only one I remember, because I don't think there was anything crazy in there, there was some dude just freaking out at the game shop, and I was like, shoulder shrugged. What I find is, so normally what happens is, I would say about 99% of me being recognized

is when I'm in the vicinity of where someone might be playing the game. I'm at a game store. I'm at a game convention. But there's that 1% where I'm just in random places out in the public. Were you there at the movie theater when the guy who got us the popcorn recognized me? How old was I? I don't remember how old. It was a while ago.

Maybe? Maybe not. I don't know. I remember Sarah. Sarah seems to be the one that's most tickled when people recognize me. Like she's most embarrassed? No, no, no. So here's the other thing, by the way.

When we go somewhere, my kids like to out me. Like, hey, do you know who this is? You don't need to tell people. I don't do that. That's Adam's thing. Adam likes doing that. Adam likes doing that. I don't do that.

Okay, be fair. Okay, that's more of an Adam thing. Yeah. Okay, okay, next. Okay, B underscore links at the beauty links says, good luck with college. It's not as hard as it seems. Smiley face. What would you, Rachel, change in magic and why? Basically, it's a question about what you like and dislike in magic. Smiley face. I mean, I don't know how much of a bad joke. You tried teaching it to me and I was like, eee, maybe? I did teach you, but you never really took it. yeah,

I grew out of it. What would I change in magic in a way? I don't know. I mean, I don't know what kind of characters you guys have made.

What would make magic more likely to draw you in? Hmm. I mean, you guys do weird different worlds because you guys are like pirates and dinosaurs

and I'm like, okay, that's fun. I mean, that seems, that seems cool. I think, you guys have apps, right? You guys have, that seems cool. I think you guys have apps, right? You guys have, like,

you guys have, like, apps you guys are making, right? Uh, we could have more apps than we have. Yeah, like, for example, like, Pokemon Go. Like, I don't get Pokemon at all. And the Pokemon Go came out, and I was like, nah, I'm not doing this, because I don't understand Pokemon. And then I watched this YouTube video,

which the YouTubers, like, they were playing it, and, like, you know, they're not very good at games either, so they were playing it, and I'm like, oh, this is easy, and then I tried this YouTube video, which the YouTubers are like, they were playing it, and like, you know, they're not very good at games either, so they were playing it, and I'm like, oh, this is easy, and then I tried playing it myself, and it's much, much simpler than the normal thing, because you just walk around to locations,

you tap on them, and you get the little balls, and then you just catch little creatures. I like naming my creatures after human names. Okay. I'll just name them like Eric, or like Paul or something. Although, the only exception I have is,

you know the little, I don't know how much you know about Pokemon, but you know, the little eggs that are like cracked and stuff. Yeah. I call them the Brady brunch. The Brady brunch. Okay. Not bunch. Brunch.

Because they are eggs. Because they're eggs. Okay. So I think, I think if you guys made an app to make things like slightly easier, then if you made things more like interactive. Ooh. So you want an alternate, like you want to. Sorry, make things more like interactive. Ooh. So you, you want an alternate, like you want to,

sorry, I'm coughing a lot. But wait, do you guys do like, do people ever like LARP your situations? Uh, we don't have a lot of LARPing, but.

You should. More live action things. More live action. We do a cosplaying. More interactive stuff. And you guys, you guys, okay,

we have Hasbro. We don't have a magic like convention like in itself. You have like a section in like Hasbro. I don't have a magic, like, convention, like, in itself. You have, like, a section in, like, Hasbro. I would love to do a magic convention. You should. I think you have enough people. Like, I think you guys have enough audience to meet with. I don't know. I would do a magic. I think it'd be cool to have a magic con. That'd be fun. Do you know what

cosplaying is? I know what cosplaying is, yeah. Okay, so we have a lot of cosplayers. I know a lot. Yeah, you show me pictures constantly. We give out pictures. You're like, there's this cosplayer. I don't know what cosplaying is. I was just at, um, I was just at, uh, GP Vegas. Yeah, whoever was that robot dude? Yeah, Karn. The guy that was Karn.

That was the dopest thing. That is an amazing costume. The iron giant. It's like 12 feet tall. It's amazing. Man, so that's why, like, this is, I'm saying we're going to VidCon now. And, like, I was going to do a bit of cosplaying. But the people were, like, actually good at it.

So I'm like, nah, I'll sit back and I'll watch. Because I don't have the time or the money. Okay, what's your next question? Um... But, okay, from Daniel Hoffman at DJ Hoffma, it says, do any of your friends play magic,

and if so, how do they get into the game, and do they know who your dad is? Is that for you? Some of my friends play magic. Sorry, I'm cut. Some of my friends play magic. Sorry, I'm kidding. Some of your friends are magic. Yeah, well, a lot of my friends are nerds, so they kind of do. Yeah, there are some people who did connect my last name. They're like, oh, yeah, since it was water, so your dad's Mark Rosewater.

Because it's a very unique standing last name. Yeah. So on the occasion that if they are a magic nerd, and they happen to know my last name... Magic player. Magic player. It's very intricate. Like, it's a very intricate game. But if someone knows magic and they happen to know, like, my last name and stuff, then sometimes they'll ask.

I've had that asked, like, you know, a couple times. But you're always, like, helping out to do something. Like, you went to my fifth grade classroom and you gave a presentation. You went to the career fairs and gave presentations. my fifth grade classroom and you did give a presentation you went to the career fairs and your presentations you gave you know supplies and little like extra things to friends and clubs and you know like things like that so you like helping out where you can so that's always really nice okay next question okay from evan george at rag and it's like r-a-g-n lL-B-R-U-S-21. I don't know if that's it.

Okay, so to Rachel, how do you define a game? How do I define a game? I don't know. Just, I'm going to like, I'll be six minutes. I feel like a game is something with like, it's competition. Whether it is you versus a player, many people versus many people, you versus yourself. It's someone against someone. Okay.

Like a conflict. Okay. And you're trying to compete. I mean, there's various different ways you can do it, like board games and card games and apps. I mean, it's a competition of some sort. I would like to think of smarts. Sometimes it's of luck. Most of the time it's of smarts.

Okay. So you're going against somebody else, although it could be yourself. And there's skill, but sometimes there's luck. I don't think... What game am I playing? I'm going to ask something, and you tell me whether it's a game or not. Okay. Okay.

It's like the whole thing is a hotbed of games to me. Okay, is chess a game? Yeah. Is Candyland a game? Yes, very pacemaking. You are playing against other people, but that one's more luck, because that one you're drawing cards. There's not as much, there's not

skill. I was going to say it's one of the games that's more based on luck. Like, if you're playing against someone else, if it's all luck, then, like, Debatable would not super like Candyland. It's not a game. Because there's no skill in Candyland. Yeah, that's because it's like a four-year-old's game. Is baseball a game? Yes.. Is baseball a game? Yes.

Is a race a game? Yeah, because you're competing against someone else. Okay. Is solitaire a game? You're playing against yourself, right? To try and get the fastest time or to complete it. Sometimes you can't complete it. That's the most annoying thing.

Okay. Okay. Is packing a suitcase a game? If you are racing against time. If you would like to beat your personal record of packing a suitcase. The airline, they charge you if you pack too much. So you're trying to make sure that you don't pack more. Like, we try not to pack more than 50 pounds in our basic case.

Yeah, beat the system. Beat the system. So your definition is pretty broad. Yeah. Okay. I mean, it's competing. I mean, there's some stuff like candidate people are like, they're not a game because it's based on luck. There are some games, I guess, based on luck.

And then don't play those games if you don't like games. Yeah, I did a whole podcast. The reason they asked, I did a whole podcast and an article all about how I define the game. I was not as broad as you. And then the same person asked to you, what advice do you have for college students? What advice do I have for college students? Well, tell them the advice you gave me at my graduation party. What was the advice you gave me at my graduation party?

Oh, the advice I gave you at my graduation party was get enough socks and underwear so that you can go a month without having to do your laundry. That was one of my big discoveries at college. That's what makes you have to do laundry more often. It's not going to have enough socks. I had a graduation party and you said that mom said, always trust your gut and call home. And I had various friends, people sign on. I know, uh,

Michael Ryan, one of our friends, uh, he said he was talking to me about the Folgers commercial where that guy during like Christmas break, like comes home, but he hasn't told anyone he's coming home. And like his little brother or something sees him.

He's like, shh, like be quiet. And he goes into the house and he makes coffee and everyone smells the coffee and they wake told anyone he's coming home. And, like, his little brother or something sees him, he's like, shh, like, be quiet. And he goes into the house and he makes coffee, and everyone smells the coffee, and they wake up, and they're like, you're home. And he was like, it's like that, so don't come home on Thanksgiving break, come home on winter break, so they'll miss you more. And my mom was so up in arms about this. Like, she was like,

she's like, you missed Thanksgiving break. I'm like, I know. My arm is going to be chopped off by this Thanksgiving break. My advice about colleges, I know. My arm is going to be chopped off by this thing. My advice about college is, I think that college is an opportunity to really sort of discover who you are and really do your own thing. And you've got to make a lot of decisions and you're on your own. Just remember that you,

that doesn't mean you can't get help from people. That doesn't mean you can't reach out. You know, just because you're on your own doesn't mean that you still can't have people help you. And I think sometimes people, when they go out on their own first, sort of feel like it's all on them and they get overwhelmed. So don't get overwhelmed. Okay, what's your next question?

It says, this is not a question, but it's from Thomas at Swim, Try, Fly, like Trifly, Try, Fly. Okay, not a question. It says, no question. It was a pleasure to meet you. I had good luck in college in the future. My impression is that your dad is as much

an inspiration to you as he is to all of us and that's so cool. Just make sure to blaze your own path and try not to recreate his. So this is someone you met or someone I met?

I don't know. It sounds like he met you, but where would he have met you? He met me. Where would he have met you? I don't know. I don't know. Maybe he met me.

I'm with you. I'm your child. I don't know. I mean, I meet magic players all the time. Okay, well, I'll be sure to meet you. Okay, well know. I don't know. Maybe he meant me. I'm with you. I'm your child. I don't know. I mean, I meet magic players all the time. Okay. Well, I'll be sure to see if he plays my own path. Thank you, Thomas, for the kind words. Thank you. Okay, from Oliver S. Torme.

At Oliver T101 says, with an alternative name, you could be a superhero. Alliterative name. Oh, alliterative name. Sorry. I thought they just, like, misspelled it. Alliterative name, you could be a superhero. What would your power be? We're talking about the alliterative name. Alliterative name. Oh, alliterative name. Sorry. I thought they just, like, misspelled it. Alliterative name. You could be a superhero. What would your power be? We're talking about the alliterative name.

Alliterative means it starts with the same sound. I know what alliterative means, but do we have to make a name for a superhero? No, no, no, no. What he's saying is a lot of secret identities of superheroes, Peter Parker, Bruce Banner, Sue Storm, Matt Murdock, they have alliterative names. Except for my middle name. It's Emily, so that's not really a secret. I understand, but the first and second, youiterative names. Except for my middle name. It's Emily. So that's not really a superhero. I understand.

But the first and second, you have a name that could be a superhero name. That's what I always get. I always get the question, what would your superpowers be? I hate such basic questions that I never know what to say

and I gotta think about it for a while. I gotta think for like months on end. I saw this one thing online. I read comic books. I'm ready for this kind of question. Yeah.

I saw this one thing online that says the power to change probabilities. The power to change probabilities? Yeah. It's like, what's the probability I'm ready for this kind of question. Yeah. Well, I saw this one thing online that says the power to change probabilities. The power to change... Okay. Yeah, it's like, what's the probability I'm going to get a million dollars?

Boom, make it a hundred. What's the probability my bathtub's going to feel like a cheap... So there's a superhero that actually has the power to mess with probabilities. Do you know what the superhero is? I don't know the superhero.

Her name's Scarlet Witch. No, that's her. In the movies, they... That's her. She is more like... That's Elizabeth Olsen, right?'s her. In the movies, she is more like... That's Elizabeth Olsen, right? Yes, but in the movies, they give her more telekinesis in the movies.

I was going to say, she flies. Well, she has telekinesis in the movies. That's lame. Which, by the way, that's the power I get. That's lame.

The problem is, in the comics, she has what's called hex power, where she gets the best probabilities. Yeah. But no one understands it.

She could have fought Thanos with that. Are you kidding me? Well, she's fine. Even in the movie, she's pretty powerful. And they took her as a probability.

What's the percentage you're going to win? Boom, zero percent. She could have won. She could have won. The movie was completely different. She could have.

Maybe not expecting spoilers for Avengers Infinity War, but okay. You have to see it by now. This is going to come out in two months, right? It's like eight months. Eight months. In fact, this should come out right before you actually go to college. Okay, if you haven't seen Infinity Wars by now, sorry.

Yeah, sorry. Get on that. Okay. Nanya Business at iFeasting says, what could Witch of the Coast do to get more females interested in the game? What's your current demographic right now for players and employees? It depends how you measure. One of the things is we've done different pollings in different means,

and it's somewhere between 15 and 35, depending on who you ask and how, and how you count, um, the more, the more digital stuff you include, the higher the, the more women play, so, um, but anyway, it's, we're, we're not quite sure, I mean, we've been doing different polling, but anyway, somewhere between 15 and 35. How do you get people to enjoy the game? I don't know, what gets people so interested in normal video games? I'm not even interested in video games as just a human.

I don't know what gets you interested in games. But you like games. I like just dance. I like the dancing games. I like Wii Sports. Sword fighting. Okay, but what I'm saying is,

is there anything you could think of, like is there anything that magic could do that would make you more inclined to play magic? What could you do? I don't know.

That's what I was saying before. I mean, I don't know specifically for females. I was saying before for just people in general, just make more, like, live action-y stuff. Make more events and do that. For females specifically, I don't know, because then otherwise, I don't know. I mean, make more female female characters make more diverse characters hire more female employees like you know

the things you're doing already yeah you're doing you're doing a fine job I think because I think I was like really bad on that much

okay next question Kelso Tavra there's no ad symbol but it asks so to Rachel do you intend to pursue

a career in game design no I am following I am following on your original path because before you were a game designer, you wanted to be a screenwriter. So I am following along in that path of thinking about like writing and directing for like film

or TV. I'm a little student in theater. You didn't really study theater, but like you did theater. I did a lot of theater. I didn't study theater. I did a lot of theater. I could study it depending we're going to see, but I'm following more on your original path. I do't study theater. I did a lot of theater. I could study it depending. We're going to see. But I'm following more on your original path. I do not think I will follow on your same path of, you know, going to Hollywood and doing stuff. And they're like, hey, come help us with this game.

And they're like, okay. So I'm going to follow on the path of game design. I could follow on the path of media, communication, writing path. Your original path. My original path. Your original path. Well, maybe you'll go down my original path and you'll end up in game design. That's what I did. That'd be interesting. Okay.

Let's see. Let's see. Lucian of Samosata. Am I pronouncing that right? What's your opinion of The Color Purple? I have not seen the musical.

I've heard it's good. Okay. It is fun when someone asks you a magic question and you answer in a complete nonsense. For those of you who don't know, The Color Purple is a musical. Well, The Color Purple is a book that got made into a movie

that got made into a musical. But the musical is actually coming to the Paramount theater oh we're doing a camp and one my the leader of my camp has a friend who's doing the tour of the color purple she's coming to teach the kids some stuff oh that's cool yeah okay so what they're at here's what they're asking about not like the actual color purple though the color purple like like the actual like color purple is like really cool what is otherwise about like the actual color purple is like really cool. What is, I thought it was about the actual color. Do you want to know what the question

is actually asking? Fine. Okay. Magic has five colors. That purple's none of it. No, hold on, hold on. The five colors are white, blue, black,

red, and green. I know that. So over the years we've talked about making a sixth color and for some reason the color keeps, like it's,

default become purple. Like if we made a sixth color, it'd be purple. Well, what would it be? Well, that's why we haven't made it yet, because what would it be? Space. Space? Space. You have fire, forest, water, hell, sky, space.

Make space. Well, you already have the sky, but you could go like space or lake. I like your breakdown of the colors. What? I like your breakdown of the colors. What? Yeah, fire, forest, water, hell, sky, space.

I'm not wrong. What is it? Sky, by the way, is more blue than white. White has a sun, but that's for like light. What's white? Is white like heaven? Well, white's like order and wants peace

and wants the good of everybody. But it's the sky, right? Well, it shows the sun in the sun. But blue's the water, right? Well, blue shows, yeah, you're looking at the mana symbols.

Blue, the color blue is the color of air and water, the elements of air and water. Then what is white? White is about healing and protection. So white's like nothing. And light, what? White?. So white's like nothing.

And light, what? White? No, white's not nothing. No, they all have their specific things. You have fire for red, and it's all like, ah, chaos. Well, white's about light. White's about light. So red's like chaos. Blue is like smart.

Green is like nature. Black is like just darkness. And then white is like what? Purple can be is like just darkness. Okay. And then white is like white. And white is lightness. Yeah. Purple can be space. Purple can be space. It can be space.

You heard it here, guys. Purple can be space. Has no one suggested this? I don't think, I don't think, when we, when we made, so there's a set

called Planner Chaos, which was like this alternate reality set. Yeah. And we actually toyed with the idea of doing purple. And I think the two things we talked about purple being with either city

representing kind of like civilization, or cave. Those are the two things we talked about. Space. I would not talk space. Why? Okay. Well, not, because we didn't have you to bring up space. We didn't know. What would space be, though? Like, just like, because I don't like red.

So you would have like stars? Red is like destruction, right? Well, red is about emotion and following your passion and it's got the elements of fire and earth.

Black is about selfishness, about gaining power at all costs. What would space be? Space would be... The final frontier. What would space be? Because on the badness scale, black is like bad, but on the goodness scale, white is good, right?

Well, I mean, white is the color that cares about morality. So like white is the more goody-two-shoes color. So white is like lawful good, and black is like chaotic evil. Yes. Right? Oh, very good. I know. That's a meme. That's a meme.

That's a meme format that I know it from. The funny thing, though, is red is a little more chaotic evil and black would be a little more lawful evil, but black likes warping the systems to do what it wants.

Oh, so red is like evil Red is more chaotic. Okay. I mean, red... And black's like evil, but like... Right. By the way,

we're going to be civilized about this. All colors can be good or evil depending on how... Just know, there is. Just space, the true neutral. The true neutral? The true neutral. It just sits in the middle? Yeah.

Okay, that's pretty cool. Okay, let's go to the next question. Okay, Ira Kriusman, how about that? Okay, asked me, if you could add anything to the Game of Magic creative rules, what would you add? I think we already answered this question, right? We get it. Well, I mean, the four of it. I mean.

Is there anything that you would love... Space. Add space. Is there anything that you would always say, oh, it would always be fun if magic had done such and such?

Like, is there something you've seen in other games that you would like magic to have? What have I seen? Apps. Okay, we got apps. I gave you all my advice. Okay, okay, okay. What's another all my advice. Okay, okay, okay.

Uh, what's another thing? Okay, Bruce Warnsby at Han Warrior asked, what are you most excited to study at college?

And of course, good luck. Thank you. Okay, what are you most excited to study at college? To study, I mean,

yeah, for those of you who don't know, yeah, so, I'm going to a school that's much more like artsy or it's in Chicago.

So, that's all, that's cool. So, it's very, very big. I'm excited for, because they have a lot of theater stuff. So I'm kind of excited to go look at theater stuff.

You want to study theater. You think that'd be cool. They do have some ASL, which is not going to be something I'm going to get a degree in. So tell people, people might not know what ASL is. What is ASL? Oh, American Sign Language. I saw ASL. Do you even know what ASL is?

There's other kinds of sign language. You studied that in high school, right? Yeah, I did. There wasn't a middle school I did in my freshman year of high school My sophomore year of high school I moved schools And then I took another one in the fall of senior year You took one or two?

I took like two and like a half Two and three-fourths At my original high school I moved schools and I took an asl at running start like i like but that was your foreign language college that was your foreign language yeah kind of so but i mean i'm excited because i'm not gonna like i'm not gonna like get a degree and i'm not gonna like interpret or anything but it's really cool to learn like right now i have to learn sign language for uh camp because i'm working at performing arts camp

for the summer yeah and we're going to be doing songs and stuff. And I decided to help teach waving through a window from Dear Evan Hansen, but it's sign language. So I have to teach myself that first so I can teach other people. Okay. That's cool. It's pretty cool. Okay.

But I mean, I don't know, study. There's other things I'm excited to like see that's like not studying. Like I told Sarah I'm bringing her to like the Nutella cafe. Yeah. She loves that. I'll bring them to the the bean which the original name is cloud gate okay if you want a fun fact tell your friends that's the original name it's a lot of cool stuff in chicago i think you'll see all sorts of cool stuff and lots of pizza comma suplex at ed burke 37 asked what is the answer to the ultimate question of life the universe and everything okay we're

touching geekiness now 42 oh hey i've read! You're very good. I've read Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy. Have you? That was a book club book. Oh, okay. That was the dad, that was the father's day book club book. I picked it. You picked it.

I picked it, that's right. Wow. I forgot I even read that. Wow, yeah, you made me read this book. I did, because it's good. You should read it. I did read this book. Okay.

Well, I'm happy. You sat down with me. My little geeky dad earned his pride whenever you don't answer some geeky questions, so. Yeah, I remember nothing less about this book

except for that one ship who controlled itself and wanted to commit suicide. That's the only thing I remember about this book. 42 and the suicide ship. That's all I remember about this book.

Okay. Jake Boss at Jake Boss MTG asked, 10 years ago, Twitter was barely a thing and social media was simpler. How do you think communications will continue

to change over the next 10 years and how do you think it will affect society? How has communications changed since you did it? Because you went to a school that was one of the only schools that had communications. Now every college has communications. Correct. When I went to school for communications there were four colleges in the country

dedicated to teaching communications. And now everybody teaches communications. When I went to school there was no internet for example. The internet wasn't a thing yet. Back in my day. Back in my day. Back in my day.

Um, so, I mean, like, that's a topic, but when I went to school to now, like, the internet happened. That's a pretty big change to how communication works. Yeah. Because it's kind of funny, when I was growing up, my mom would talk about how when they got their first TV. Like, you had a, like, before you were eight, you never had a television. You never had a television.

So, till I was in my 20s, I didn't have the internet. Well, well, when I was born, because I was born in, like, 2000, so, like, it was, like, CDs and stuff,

and I remember, I remember when I was eight, I got, like, the iPod, like, Nano. Yeah, yeah. I remember, I remember that. That was, like,

my first, like, big present when I was eight. They were like, you'll get an iPod Nano. Like, great. Yeah, you were very excited. So, how would it affect society? I mean, there's already so much. I don't know where we're gonna get further i did see this

i heard i saw this one cool thingy that someone said just like you know how like how how to think about the future and stuff and someone said uh if someone told you right now that you know you could record smells that would sound just as crazy as you telling someone back you know in the 1920s you could like record like sound or whatever now we think like you know recording smells ridiculous but that's what they thought back then like recording sound ridiculous so it's like it's just you know like we think of it as like crazy but in the future it could be like totally possible like whoa why don't we think of this so it's always changing and you can't really ever like predict stuff like my mom was always saying like don't stand near the microwave and we're like okay and she's because because we think back then because

these people thought cigarettes you know were not harmful and now we think well no they're harmful my mom's like well you know they could be like you know radiation from the microwave and you could like die so okay okay ben keel at ben keel or yeah ben with two n's and then keel uh asked maro what's a positive change you've observed in primary education since you went to college? A change in primary education? Primary education. That's like, that's secondary. Primary? Like elementary school? Yeah,

do they mean elementary school? Well, answer education. The biggest thing, watching my kids go through school, I don't know, it's weird. In some ways, there's a lot of similarities in other ways like somehow math doesn't work the way math used to that's one of my biggest frustrations as a parent is math keeps changing yeah they keep changing how math works i hate that math is just one way

that's i saw that we said the incredible student like just came out in this timeline before before we're releasing this like two months later but i just i remember the the one scene from like the trailer where the dad's trying to teach the son about math, and he goes, it keeps changing. He goes, how does it keep changing? It's math. And I'm like, I feel you, my good man. I feel you.

Yeah, I mean, it keeps, the thing that I like, for example, Rachel, what you did, the idea of, you know, you went to a school that, like, you did internships, and it's project-based, and it wasn't grades, and I think that's kind of the future. I think what you were doing was the future. Yeah, we were doing pretty cool. Okay, last question.

Okay, last question. Wes at BRKN Plains Walker, Walker with an E at the end, asks, why isn't there a legendary squirrel match at the gathering? Good question, Wes. Good question. That is a fine question. Yeah, got to catch up. Got to get that squirrel.

Got to get that space. Got to get that app. Got to get that convention. So we need is a fine question. Yeah, gotta catch up. Gotta get that squirrel. Gotta get that space. Gotta get that app. Gotta get that convention. So we need a legendary space squirrel. Yes, make a space squirrel. I am working on it. I am working on a legendary

squirrel. Like the Ice Age squirrel, but like in space. He's been in space before, you know? Yes, he has been. Okay. I'm gonna make a nut,

a character. To answer this question more seriously, I'm trying to get squirrels back in Black Border. If we get squirrels in Black Border, it'll be easier for me to make a legendary squirrel. It is something I'm working on. squirrels back in Black Border if we get squirrels in Black Border it would be easier for me to make a legendary squirrel

it is something I'm working on what's legendary mean? legendary means it's a specific character like there's one of them so anyway I believe it's more a matter of when than if I think eventually we'll get there

but it's going to take some work to get there so anyway I just want to wrap up today we're not parked at work. And so Rachel, we're going to miss you on the show. I know you can't see us, but we're hugging in the car. We're hugging. You can't see that. And I know

Rachel's going to have an awesome time at college. I'll keep you guys in the loop as we learn what's going on. You can try and get trips so you can come. Yeah, I'm going to go see you. Anyway, I'm going to let you travel more just to go see me. Yes. Okay, so we're going to wrap up for you can go. Yeah, I gotta go see ya. Anyway, um. I'm gonna let you travel more for us to go see me. Yes. Okay, so we're gonna wrap up for today. But anyway, we enjoyed this final replies from Rachel.

And we'll see you guys all next time. So, we're at Parked at Work, so we all know what that means. It means it's the end of my drive to work. So instead of talking magic, it's time for me to be making magic. I'll see you guys next time. Bye.