Magic: The Gathering Drive to Work Podcast - Drive to Work #146 - Restraint

Episode Date: August 8, 2014

Mark talks about how restraint is important to design. ...

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I'm pulling out of my driveway. We all know what that means. It's time for another drive to work. Okay, so today I'm going to talk about something, a design topic that I think a lot of beginning designers aren't particularly good at. In fact, if you asked me, if you said, okay, you know, I've been doing magic design now for almost 19 years. If you said to me, what is the thing you've most learned, the biggest difference between when you started as a magic designer and where you are now, what skill have you picked up that is the largest different, you know, different, different, differentation, different, the largest difference between when you started and now? I'm sure there's a better word for that.
Starting point is 00:00:45 Anyway, the answer is restraint. One of the things I find with new designers, and I was this way, by the way, when I say new designers,
Starting point is 00:00:54 when I was a new designer, I did this completely, which is the, I think when, like, for example, I'll use myself, when I first started
Starting point is 00:01:03 designing magic sets, the question I would ask myself is, how much could I fit in? Like when I turned over Tempest, Tempest was my first design, I had, it was just overloaded with stuff. For example, the two keyword mechanics from the following year, from Urza Saga Block,
Starting point is 00:01:19 which were Echo and Cycling, were in Tempest Block. There were cards that ended up going in Weatherlight. In fact, Tempest block. You know, there were cards that were in, ended up going in Weatherlight. In fact, Tempest had so much stuff in it that there were cards from Tempest Design for like five, six, seven years showing up because I was like, what can I do?
Starting point is 00:01:37 What else can I do? What else can I do? And I kept sort of saying, what else can I add? And what I learned through years of doing design is, the answer to the question I ask now is, how little do I need to do to do what I want? And that, what I've kind of learned is that the art of design, I'll say game design, but probably of design in general, is you want enough to accomplish your task and no more. So today I'm going to talk about sort of the why.
Starting point is 00:02:13 Why is restraint such an important part of game design? And one might argue design, but we'll talk game design. Why? So a couple things. So number one is magic. I've talked about this plenty. Magic is a complex game. There's a lot going on. That even the base level of magic
Starting point is 00:02:31 has a lot of moving parts. And that when you do a new set, the goal is to introduce a few things to make it interesting, but you don't need a lot of things to make it interesting. One of my quotes, I believe, is it just takes a little to
Starting point is 00:02:46 change everything. That you don't need to add tons to a set to make your magic set feel different from other magic sets. You know, that one, just even one mechanic that has the right focus can do a lot of the work. Now, be aware, I'm not saying that you, once again, I should stress what I'm looking for is the least amount you need to get the job done. That's not the same as the least amount you can do. Obviously you can do nothing that doesn't get the job done. So a lot of times now when I'm looking at a design, I'm figuring out what do I need? And I'm trying to make sure that when I do, when I, you know, when I can do what I need,
Starting point is 00:03:22 that it gets done, that what needs to get done gets done. do what I, you know, when I can do what I need, that it gets done, that what needs to get done gets done. But one of the things that I learned, and for example, I did an article called Design 101. In fact, I think I've done 101, 102, 103, might have been 201, where I looked at talking about beginner design mistakes. So one of the most common beginner designer mistakes is they just put too much on a card. There's just too much there. Like, here's a great idea, and here's a great idea, and here's a great idea, and they cram it all on a single card. And a lot of my notes is kind of like, you have three great card ideas,
Starting point is 00:03:53 but they shouldn't all be in one card. And that it's, I think people, I think there's something when you start, and like I said, I did this. It's not like I don't understand it. Is you're just so eager to show what you can do, and you so much want to get out what's inside you in the design, that you just are overflowing, and that you just keep piling things in. So one of my, one of my, I'll use my little metaphor here,
Starting point is 00:04:21 is, so for a long, long time, since I was a kid, since I was a teenager, I've had a Swiss Army knife. And for a long time I had, I think it was called the Champion. It was like just the biggest knife you've ever seen. It had everything but the kitchen sink in it. You know, it had a saw and a
Starting point is 00:04:39 fish scale and it had an awl and it had, you know, a magnifying glass and a, and all sorts of things. And one day, I mean, I carried that thing around for years. One day, I just realized that, like, I was carrying a lot, and I was, things were heavy. I'm like, I'm carrying too much around. So I ended up taking my knife out, and then I started missing my knife, because there's things in it that I use all the time. So I had to go to the store and what I had to do is I said, okay, here's what I'm going to do. I want to figure out what I want in my knife because I want to carry a knife. I like having
Starting point is 00:05:13 my pocket knife around it. There's things I use it for. It's convenient to have. It's a good tool, but I just don't want to carry the giant thing around. So I'm like, okay, what I'm going to do is go and figure out what is the smallest knife I could get that has the key components I need. And so what I did is I spent some time figuring out kind of what I needed. You know, I obviously wanted a knife. I used a scissors a lot. You know, having a screwdriver was handy. There's certain things that I wanted to have.
Starting point is 00:05:40 And so I went through and figured out what the things that, you know what? I use this enough that I would like to have this in my knife. And then I said, okay, and I don't, I try to like only have the things I want. And now the combinations, there were some things by getting the things I want, and I might pick up one or two other things. I, I, you know, but knives come in certain configurations. But what I did in the end was I got a knife that I now use, and it probably does maybe 90% of the work that my old knife did. Not that it does
Starting point is 00:06:09 90% of the functions, but a lot of the functions I never used. But now, when I need a knife, 90% of the time, when before I could have pulled up my old knife,
Starting point is 00:06:18 I could pull up my new knife and I accomplished the same thing. And it is a third the weight, a fourth the weight, it's way, way, way smaller. And I realize that that's a kind of good metaphor for design, which is you want your pocket knife to be as light
Starting point is 00:06:33 as it can be, but to accomplish the tasks you need. You know, and that when you look at your design, it's kind of the same thing as, what do I really need? Do I need this? Do I need this? And that you want to question everything in your set. Now, there's two different things you're questioning. One is you're questioning the new stuff. Because the thing that you tend to overload on, usually, up front is the new things. Because you're so excited by the new things. I want to have this new thing, and that new thing, and that new thing.
Starting point is 00:06:59 And one of the things, for example, the New World Order has done for us is just sort of saying, you know what, we need to make sure that there's space for some vanillas and some French vanillas. And just having some simpler cards of common says, you know what, there's only so much space of common to do the things we need to do. Let's prioritize. And that, by the way, a lot of simplification, not even simplification, a lot of, you know, getting down to the bare bones is just figuring out what is doing the work for you. So one of the things I find very interesting, and this is part of the iterative process and why iteration I think is very good, is you make a file. You fill up your file. Now, if you make a new card, if you come up with something that's really cool, you can't just add a card to the file. So what you need to do is you need to remove something. So every time I want
Starting point is 00:07:48 to add something, I have to remove something. So, okay, I want to add this thing. Well, is there something that it's fulfilling the role of or something that this being a file is duplicating something else? Now, if that's true, that's the easy swap. Sometimes like, oh no, let's do something different. And I have to figure out, okay, well, what's the least important thing I have here? What's the thing the set could easily work without? So another metaphor for the day is, I'll use my Jenga metaphor. So Jenga is a game where you stack the bricks, they go three by three, and then you push bricks out, and then you have to take the brick and put it on top. And then when the thing falls over, you know, the other person wins. A lot of design, I think there's a Jenga-ish quality
Starting point is 00:08:31 to it in that what you're trying to do is figure out what is supporting your tower and what is not. You know, that if you can remove a piece, and I talk about this in my writing, I've mentioned this before, that, you know that when you take a writing class, they say to you, if you can take out a scene and the movie works, bye-bye scene. If that scene is not doing something that the movie would not work without, then get rid of it. And the game design
Starting point is 00:08:56 is very similar, which is, will your design work without that thing? I mean, and doing what it needs to do. I'm not saying, you know, when I say, will it work, I mean, is it getting across what your design is trying to do? And if it doesn't need it, to do. I'm not saying, you know, when I say what works, I mean, is it getting across what your design is trying to do? And if it doesn't need it, pull it. And one of the things
Starting point is 00:09:09 with the iterative process which is nice is because we're adding things, we're constantly having to pull things. And so there's a little bit like a survival of the fittest going on
Starting point is 00:09:17 where it's like you as a designer have to sort of have a sense of what's working and what's not. And so when I've got to pull something, I just have to make
Starting point is 00:09:24 the tough call. Now early on, it's not that tough. Early on, it's like, eh, I don't like that car. It hasn't been working and what's not. And so when I got to pull something, I just have to make the tough call. Now, early on, it's not that tough. Early on, it's like, ah, I don't like that car. It hasn't been working. That's fine. Later on, it's like, well, everything's working. What's working the best? Like, well, this part, you know, it's working and it's good, but not as good as the other things, you know? And usually what happens near the end is like, no, I can't get rid of that. No, I can't get rid of that. usually what happens near the end is like, no, I can't get rid of that. No, I can't get rid of that. Well, this, I guess I could get rid of it, you know, and a lot of design is redesign. You know, a lot of writing they say is rewriting. Most of design is not the act of designing. Most of design is the act of refining and figuring out how you need to improve what you're doing. And a lot of
Starting point is 00:10:02 that is cutting the fat, the stuff that isn't accomplishing what you need. improve what you're doing. And a lot of that is cutting the fat, the stuff that isn't accomplishing what you need. And a big part of doing design is being very honest with yourself of what is holding weight. So today's my metaphor-filled episode. Most of my podcasts are metaphor-filled, but today's extra metaphor.
Starting point is 00:10:21 So one of the other metaphors I use in designing a set is I talk about architecture. And I think I mentioned this before, but the idea of bearing walls. So when you build a house, there are certain walls that the structure that holds up the house, it goes through those walls. So you can't tear that wall down. Some walls are decorative. They're there just to divide up the room. But if you wanted to knock down the wall, it's not a bearing wall. It's not holding anything up. It's there just because you want a wall. And if you want to knock down a non-bearing wall and make the room bigger or change how the house looks,
Starting point is 00:10:54 okay, no problem. But if you want to knock down a bearing wall, well, now you have a problem. That is holding up the house. And so my metaphor here is when you're doing design, you've got to understand what your bearing walls are. What are the cards and mechanics that are holding up your set? What are the things that are making it work? Well, you know what?
Starting point is 00:11:12 If you have to take something out, don't take that out. Don't take out the thing that's making it work. And so a lot of design is understanding your design well enough that you know what your bearing walls are. So, for example, one of the things we do is, the process at Wizards is, we essentially have two stewards of the project. We have design and then development.
Starting point is 00:11:35 And the reason it's important is, the designer does things, makes choices, but there's just emotional tap into the designer will have just because things that they like. And when development comes in, they get to be a fresh set of eyes. They get to say, OK, is this working? And they're not preoccupied by other things that have gone on. Now, one of the things that's really important is that the development lead needs to talk with the design lead.
Starting point is 00:12:00 Because sometimes something that might seem frivolous isn't frivolous. You know, so for example, Eric Lauer is the head developer, and he and I, most of the false sets, I will lead the design and he will lead the development. So Eric always comes to me to figure out, you know, what's going on, to make sure that he understands what I want, and that if he needs to make changes, that he's not undoing something that's important. So Eric will often come to me and say, OK, I have this problem. I'm thinking of doing this.
Starting point is 00:12:29 And either I say, oh, that sounds like a good idea, or I go, oh, well, Eric, if you do that, here's a new problem you might introduce, and I talk about things built into the set. And sometimes Eric goes, oh, I'm aware of that. I think we'll be OK. And sometimes he goes, oh, I hadn't thought of that. OK. And so the goal, oh, I hadn't thought of that. Okay.
Starting point is 00:12:46 And so the goal is, Eric runs changes by me because I'm the other person who's an expert on the set, and that, you know, he is trying to make sure that he sees the things that I find important, but he's also the first set of eyes. And I think, by the way, one of the reasons magic sets
Starting point is 00:13:02 I think at the quality level they do, is it is very hard to always objectively look at your baby. It's tough. You are attached to your baby. That's my fourth metaphor. I do like metaphor count. Ding, ding, ding, number four. Metaphor number four. Design is baby. It's your baby. I mean, I believe you have to be emotionally invested in your design to do your best work. I don't believe if you are detached from your design that you do as good a work. That when you care about it, when it means something, when it emotionally speaks to you, you just, you care more. I mean, you just, I think you do better work.
Starting point is 00:13:40 But the downside of that is that you get emotionally blinded to things that, you know, it is hard to call your baby ugly. That you see what's beautiful about your baby. Even if the outside world doesn't see it as beautiful as you do, you see the beauty in your baby. And which is important. You should see your baby. But one of the things that a second set of eyes does is they might come along and go, Woohoo! This baby's ugly. We need to fix this baby. Or this aspect of the baby needs fixing. And
Starting point is 00:14:10 that's one of the things that's very interesting. And one of the hard parts. So when we talk about restraint, I talk about why it takes time to restraint, is I believe that you are emotionally invested. I believe that when you start designing, you're emotionally invested. And what happens is, it's not that you get less emotionally invested, I'm just emotionally invested. But I learn where to get emotionally invested, and I'm a little more understanding of the process needs the cutting and the refining. That is part of the process. And so what I've learned over the years is you can't fight for everything. If you fight for everything, you're fighting for nothing.
Starting point is 00:14:49 You know, that if every time the developer comes to you and wants to change something, if you fight them on it, eventually the developer just learns whatever, ignore them. You know, I won't name names, but there are some designers in the past who like would fight over every change, every change they fight over. And what happened was they stopped becoming a team member. They, you know, instead of being a collaborative design, they started becoming combative. Because the developer's like, oh, well, I have to fight for every change I'm trying to do. And the developer's honestly trying to make a better set.
Starting point is 00:15:20 And what I found was when you, the designer, fight over every change, you really lose the ability to have an impact. And so what I do now is I fight over the changes that matter. If I believe that Eric or whatever the head developer is going to change something that's fundamental, I fight for that. And because I don't fight for a lot, when I fight for something, they go, oh, Mark's fighting it. I better listen. I don't fight over everything. In fact, oh, Mark's fighting it, I better listen. You know, I don't fight over anything. In fact, I'm patient of fighting
Starting point is 00:15:47 over very little. Because what I've learned is, pick your battles, fight over things that really matter. You know, and that, most of the time,
Starting point is 00:15:56 you know, I want to change this, okay, and I try to think about why they're changing it and what they're doing. And that, like,
Starting point is 00:16:01 it's very, very important to understand that the head developer is your ally, not your enemy, is your ally. They are also trying to make the set better.
Starting point is 00:16:10 Now, it is possible that they prioritize different things than you do, and part of being a designer is setting a vision. One of the reasons Eric is a very good developer is my job as a designer
Starting point is 00:16:20 is I set a vision. Eric tries very hard to match the vision. Not necessarily all the execution, but the vision. Like if I say I want this group of cars to act a certain way, he'll come back and go, oh, well, that's not how they're acting. Is that how you want them to act? And I'll go, yes. And he'll go, okay, well, here's what we need to do to make them act that way. And so it's very important. Like a big part of design is the idea of the vision of
Starting point is 00:16:46 your set. So one of the things I do, for example, is I have a tone and a mood. I have an emotion I'm going for in my set. I want the set to evoke something. When you play, I'm trying to make something, I'm trying to make some sort of feeling and some story. It's about something. And so what I want to make sure is that my developer, head developer, understands what I'm going for. But they are better at execution than I am. Development is just better at execution in that well, for starters, I'm not pricing things.
Starting point is 00:17:14 Sometimes what happens is, like, oh, well, that's a neat-in concept, but it's never going to work when you actually try to price it aggressively. And one of the things I'm learning, the area that I have more to learn, you know, I mean, just because it's 19 years doesn't mean I don't have a lot left to learn, is trying to get a better understanding
Starting point is 00:17:31 of how to make mechanics that development can push. Not in limited. Limited is much easier, but in constructed. And trying to get a sense of what mechanics that can push and can't push. It's tricky because there's things that seem like, oh, this should be fine, and then when you actually get into development,
Starting point is 00:17:47 like, well, here's the stress it's causing that makes problems. Anyway, so a lot of what the goal of design is these days is to set your vision, push your stuff in the direction you want, create the necessary tools for development to accomplish the task. And then say, okay, I've given you the tools. I've given you the vision.
Starting point is 00:18:11 Let's see if you can accomplish the vision. Can you match my vision with my tools? Now, they might need to add tools. That's very common. Every once in a while. Not every once in a while. From time to time, mechanics get added in development. Like,
Starting point is 00:18:25 Scry got added in Stateroast development because they needed something, they didn't have it. They said, okay, there's a pre-existing mechanic that'll solve this problem. How do you feel about it?
Starting point is 00:18:34 I'm like, thematically, it fits the set fine. Let's go for it. And that, a lot of the goal, there's a big mental difference between where I used to be and where I am now.
Starting point is 00:18:47 Early on, my attitude was, how much can I get in the set? I just want to get a lot of cool things in. How many cool cards can I make? How much just awesomeness can I cram in the set? And what I learned is that, metaphor number five, design as a recipe. Let's say I want to make an awesome recipe. The best way to make a recipe is not,
Starting point is 00:19:15 you know, I like this ingredient. Oh, and I like this ingredient. Oh, and I like this ingredient. Oh, you know what else is really good? This ingredient. That's where I lead you. Having awesome ingredients. You could go out and handpick the best ever ginger found in the world.
Starting point is 00:19:34 And you could go find the tastiest, pick whatever food. I'm not a chef. But you could go and find, you could search the land for the mightiest, the best version of eight different categories, eight different ingredients. whatever food. I'm not a chef. But you can go and find, you can search the land for the mightiest, you know, the best version of eight different category, eight different ingredients. And each ingredient
Starting point is 00:19:50 is from the faraway land that it is naturally from and you went to find the best creator of this in its natural home and you travel around the world, you come back and you have eight samples
Starting point is 00:20:03 of the greatest of that ingredient. Mixing those together does not make necessarily an awesome dish. What makes a good recipe is all the flavors are working together to make a combined dish. You're trying to make something.
Starting point is 00:20:19 And the way to make an awesome dish is, here's what I need, here's the ingredients I need. Now, once I know the ingredients I need to make this particular dish, let here's what I need, here's the ingredients I need. Now, once I know the ingredients I need to make this particular dish, let's get the most awesome ingredients I can. But getting awesome ingredients does not lead to an awesome recipe. And the design is the same way. That if your design is, here's lots of awesome cards, they might be awesome in a vacuum, but that doesn't make the set awesome. And remember, one of the things about Magic is,
Starting point is 00:20:45 Magic is, I don't know how many sets in, 60 sets in, 70 sets? Magic makes lots and lots of sets. We make four sets a year right now, and we make lots of supplemental products, and there's plenty. Magic is a hungry monster. I talk about this all the time. There's tons and tons
Starting point is 00:21:05 and tons of needs for cards you're never going to go ooh we just have too many good cards and nowhere to put them magic will you'll get there the key is
Starting point is 00:21:13 that we need each magic set to be its own thing that if if every magic set was just here's some goodies they would start
Starting point is 00:21:21 they would start to lose identity you know magic does this for a little while which is like hey here's more good stuff but the problem without start to lose identity you know magic did this for a little while which is like hey here's more good stuff but the problem
Starting point is 00:21:26 without a focus without that you know A your limited environment would not be much fun and B it's like
Starting point is 00:21:32 you would just it's another set of stuff in it you know that one of the things that really helps define our sets is like
Starting point is 00:21:40 okay Theros is Greek mythology world we're doing Greek mythology stuff that's a very and people can get excited because that's what we're doing. And that allows us to make cards
Starting point is 00:21:49 that we wouldn't make anywhere else. You know, I mean, like, Rescues from the Underworld is my favorite card in Theros block. I don't know if we make that card anywhere else. It makes sense in Theros block. I don't know if it makes sense anywhere else. And that's an awesome card, you know.
Starting point is 00:22:04 And the way you get awesome cards is by focusing and doing things. And so you do not want to cram your set full of just the best things you can come up with because cohesively as a whole, you don't make the best set you can make. And a lot of refinement is learning, what do I need? Okay, what do I want to accomplish getting that done? And, in general, why is less good? Okay, number one, design is a resource. I talk about this plenty, that I and my team have to come up with new magic designs.
Starting point is 00:22:41 That is not a bottomless well. There's a lot of designs. I'm not saying we're out of stuff in the near future, but eventually we'll run out of stuff if we're not careful with what we do. That's why we use mechanics. That's why I really want to mine
Starting point is 00:22:57 things when I'm doing Greek mythology world. I want to find stuff that nobody can do but Greek mythology world. Like, for example, whenever I'm designing a set, anytime I can find a card that fits in that set that would not fit in any other set, well, I'm excited to do that card in that set because I've just added
Starting point is 00:23:14 one card to Magic's design portfolio that if I pass, I wouldn't have. Another reason you want to do less is that if you want someone to notice something, like in screenwriting, ding, ding, ding, metaphor number six or seven,
Starting point is 00:23:32 when you are, although I used this metaphor before, I guess, when you are writing a script, you want people to focus on the things you want to focus on. And so what they say is, like, for example, when you're writing a book, this is a good example,
Starting point is 00:23:44 every time I spend a page talking about something that's less important, And so what they say is, like, for example, when you're writing a book, this is a good example. Every time I spend a page talking about something that's less important, I'm putting it on equal footing with other things. I'm saying, like, this flower, I'm going to spend a page talking about this flower. Well, is that flower important? I mean, if it is, if it's the rose in Beauty and the Beast, okay, that's important. It's part of the story. But if it's just a random rose, well, wouldn't you rather spend that page talking about something that will mean something in the book,
Starting point is 00:24:10 that will matter, that your audience taking the time to read it will further what the book is trying to do? Now, maybe that flower is key. Maybe that flower thematically is important. I'm not saying you can't write about the flower, but you shouldn't write about the flower, but you shouldn't write about the flower unless it's worthy of writing about.
Starting point is 00:24:28 Even if you could come up with wonderful things to say about a flower, if it's not advancing the story, you are diluting what you are doing. And that's another important way, I guess, to think of the idea of refinement is don't dilute your own work. For example, let's say I make chocolate chip cookies. of refinement is don't dilute your own work. That if I,
Starting point is 00:24:45 for example, let's say I make, you know, chocolate chip cookies. I could start throwing other things into the chocolate chip cookies. I could throw various nuts and, you know,
Starting point is 00:24:54 but the point is I want people to appreciate my chocolate chip cookie. The more things I throw in there, the less it's about the chocolate chips and the more it's about
Starting point is 00:25:04 other things. And at some point, it kind of, you know, you just dilute what you're doing. Let's say you're the most awesome chocolate chip cook in the world because you have the best chocolate chips.
Starting point is 00:25:12 Well, the more other things you put in there, the less it's about the chocolate chips. So when you're doing your design, know what your chocolate chips are and stop putting too many nuts in. I don't know if that metaphorically sounds correct, but, Mauro says,
Starting point is 00:25:26 let's nuts in your design. Anyway, so the essence of today is we need to save space. We need to, we want to not dilute our message. And the last really important thing is that you only have, I mean, when you are building something, you only have so I mean, when you are building something, you only have so many tools to build it. That if you overuse your tools,
Starting point is 00:25:50 you start forcing the set. And that you want your set to have what's called room to breathe. And what that means is, is that the idea that, so for example, I'll use my movie metaphor. Ding, ding, ding.
Starting point is 00:26:07 I could, let's say I want to make a movie with action. I could make the movie just, from the beginning of the movie to the end of the movie, just, it's a chase. The whole movie long. Just one long chase.
Starting point is 00:26:19 But, probably, and I could, like, they're running the whole time. That's all they're doing is running. But the problem is, at some point you wear out your audience, because, there I could, like, they're running the whole time. That's all they're doing is running. But the problem is, at some point, you wear out your audience, because there's just only so long that their adrenaline
Starting point is 00:26:30 can get pumped, that you need to have moments where there's downtime. You need to have moments where, you know, let's say they're running, but okay, you get them on a train or something, and then okay, the train's moving, but now they get to talk, and they're physically not moving. They're just sitting there.
Starting point is 00:26:45 And you get a moment to catch your breath. That is an important part of anything you do to make sure the audience has decompression time, that you're not just bum, bum, bum, bum, bum. One of the things about magic is if every card you drew was... Take the complex end of magic, okay? I'm not saying we shouldn't have complex cards. I think complex cards have their place and are important. But imagine if every card you drew was on the complex end of magic. Okay? I'm not saying we shouldn't have complex cards. I think complex cards have their place and are important.
Starting point is 00:27:06 But imagine if every card you drew was on the complex end of the side, the complex side of magic. You know? And we've had environments like that. I talk about a lot of the lore when Mourning Tide, where the board was just crazy.
Starting point is 00:27:16 And like, every time you draw a card, you're like, okay, what does this mean? And that, one of the things we noticed is, in fact, I've never told this story.
Starting point is 00:27:24 So, I'm playing somebody, so we, I've never told this story. So, I'm playing somebody, so we, I went to the employee pre-release in Lorwyn Morningtime and this is the employee pre-release
Starting point is 00:27:31 where we talked about watching the more average, not the R&D people, but the average people at Wizards who play Magic but weren't,
Starting point is 00:27:39 you know, not top tier, just average players, that they would play a round or two and then they would stop playing. And we're like,
Starting point is 00:27:44 oh, they're not, why are they dropping out? Do they have to go home? Like, why are they dropping out? And so, I'm playing somebody, and it's clear that, I mean, he enjoys magic, but you know, he's, he is someone who plays casually, and
Starting point is 00:27:58 he's carefully reading every card, and I remember at one point, he drew a card and he let out a sigh, a sigh of deep breath. And I was like, oh, so I kind of kept my eye on that card just because, like, what is that card?
Starting point is 00:28:14 Like, I literally, there was like a moment of relief, like I just could see this weight on his shoulders being lifted. Like, what was that card? And he finally played it, and it was a vanilla creature that he had just drawn a card. I was like, oh, I don't have to think about this card. I don't have to think about it.
Starting point is 00:28:28 I know what it is. And that's when we realized the importance of the vanillas and the French vanillas and that you want to have a lot of moments where people get to think. And somehow people think, like, I don't want people thinking in magic. I do. Magic is a complicated game. The idea that I want people not to have moments of thought and great... That's going to happen.
Starting point is 00:28:47 But I don't want every moment. I don't want every moment to be the car chase where you're just constantly running. I want moments where you draw a card. In fact, lands are really nice because they do this too. But I want you to spend some time drawing and go, okay, I know what this is. I don't have to wrap my head around what it means. You know? And that, one of the
Starting point is 00:29:03 things about rarity and about New World Order in general is we want moments where you're like, okay, what, you know, where I have to really think about this. We want those moments. We don't want that moment every single time. And that's why a lot of New World Order is like, get those cards. They're like, what? What? Let me read this again.
Starting point is 00:29:19 What's going on? How do I use it? Those aren't common cards, you know, and that a lot of restraint is boiling it down so that people get to really enjoy and focus on the things that are the best part of what you're doing. And that your design can shine through.
Starting point is 00:29:36 And that we save some goodies for a future day. So that, my friends, I'm almost at work, I'm wrapping this up. That is my podcast on restraint. I was very tempted, by the way, to talk a little bit and like halfway through go, yeah, that's all I got to say on restraint,
Starting point is 00:29:53 and then just end the podcast. But it breaks my own rules. So, yeah, I know I'm a rule breaker, but I somehow, I like setting parameters myself and following my own parameters. So my drive to work is, in fact, my drive to work. Um, and now I'm turning into wizards. So, I hope today was useful.
Starting point is 00:30:14 And one of the things that I'm trying to do from time to time is just talk about different design elements. And that, um, each design element I talk about is important, you know. And I'm just trying to bring up different ones to show how there's a lot of things to think about. But anyway, this is an important one, especially for beginning designers. So if you are listening to this and you're a beginning designer, my homework to you is take whatever you're working on and say, you know what, I'm going to chop out,
Starting point is 00:30:40 and if you're a beginner, 25%, maybe 50%. You know, pick some amount and say, I'm just going to chop some stuff out and see what happens. Just say, okay, the current design, what if I chop 25% out? What would happen? Now, I'm not saying that in the end
Starting point is 00:30:56 you might not put some stuff back, but you might find if you chop 25% out, you might just go, ooh, this is just better. This is just better. Or at least if you have to pull something out, you might then learn it's a bearing wall and go, oh, this is just better. This is just better. Or, at least if you have to pull something out, you might then learn it's a bearing wall and go, oh, that should stay in. But either way,
Starting point is 00:31:09 show some restraint, my friends. Show some restraint. It will make you a better designer. Anyway, I've just parked my car, so it's time for me to be making magic. I'll talk to you guys next time.

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