Makes Sense - with Dr. JC Doornick - He Was Homeless, Jailed, and Suicidal — Then Built an 800% Business Empire | Glenn Lundy - E189

Episode Date: July 21, 2026

What would you do if you had lost everything — your home, your freedom, your will to live — and the only thing you had left was a decision? My guest today hit every one of those walls. He was homeless. He sat behind bars. He tried to end his life. And then — somehow — he went on to build an 800% sales turnaround at a dealership most people had written off, become a national speaker spotlighted on ABC, NBC, and CBS, and raise nine kids along the way. Today Glenn Lundy is going to tell us exactly what broke him, what rebuilt him, and the dead-simple morning practice he says anyone can use to stop surviving and start performing. Stay with us — because the moment he tells you what he was doing at 4 am that changed his entire life, you will not want to go back to the way you've been starting your days.   Follow Glen Lundy:  Web / https://www.800percent.life IG / @glenn_lundy Facebook For Morning Rise and Grind / https://www.facebook.com/800percent.life     Follow Dr. JC Doornick and the Makes Sense Academy:► Makes Sense Substack - https://drjcdoornick.substack.com ► Instagram: / drjcdoornick ► Substack: / drjcdoornick ►Facebook:  / makessensepodcast ►YouTube:  / drjcdoornick     MAKES SENSE PODCAST Welcome to the Makes Sense with Dr. JC Doornick Podcast. This podcast explores topics that expand human consciousness and enhance performance. On the Makes Sense Podcast, we acknowledge that it's who you are that determines how well what you do works, and that perception is subjective and an acquired taste. When you change the way you look at things, the things you look at begin to change. Welcome to the uprising of the sleepwalking masses. Welcome to the Makes Sense with Dr. JC Doornick Podcast.   SUBSCRIBE/RATE/REVIEW & SHARE our new podcast. FOLLOW Podcast: You will find a "Follow" button in the top right. This will enable the podcast software to alert you when a new episode launches each week. Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/makes-sense-with-dr-jc-doornick/id1730954168 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/1WHfKWDDReMtrGFz4kkZs9?si=003780ca147c4aec   Podcast Affiliates: Kwik Learning: Many people ask me where I get all these topics, which I've been covering for almost 15 years. I have learned to read nearly four times faster and retain information 10 times better with Kwik Learning. Learn how to learn and earn with Jim Kwik. Get his program at a special discount here: https://jimkwik.com/dragon OUR SPONSORS: Operly - Take Back Control of your Work Day and Get Rid of All Your AI Apps - Welcome to the new world of Time Freedom and Unlimited Scaling and Success with Operly -  https://go.getoperly.ai/video?ref=jean-claude-claude-d-2a95 Blue Blinds Bakery - Hand Crafted with all-natural ingredients - www.blueblindsbakery.com Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

A man who was homeless, who spent time behind bars, who battled depression to the point of suicide, most people would have assumed that his story was over. Instead, it became the beginning. Great morning world, great morning humans. Welcome back to the Make Sense with Dr. J.C. podcast, where confusion dies and progress thrives. Have you noticed that the world that we live in has been doing most of the thinking for you? That your beliefs, perceptions, reactions, fears, and doubts have been shaped by unsolicited outside noise. How easy it's been for you to slip into that default sleep walking mode and label it as life and reality.

Yeah, that ends here. Welcome to the Make Sense with Dr. J.C. podcast. This is your opportunity to start thinking for yourself, reclaim control, and step back into that role as the shock caller and dominant force of your own reality. It's when you change the way that you look at things, that the things that the things you look at begin to change. So let's wake up, let's rise up, and let's make sense of why and how shift happens. Hmm. Makes sense.

You know, one of the things that I've become increasingly fascinated by isn't really just success, but it's more transformation. Because we've all seen people who know exactly what they should do, yet somehow they never become the person who can do it consistently. Then there are people whose entire lives change seemingly overnight. Their health changes, their relationships change, businesses change, their impact changes. But if you really study these people, you begin to notice something fascinating. None of those things changed first. They changed first.

My guest today is one of the greatest examples. of that principle that I've ever come across. Before the stages, before the best-selling books, before the viral morning show, before taking a struggling dealership and helping transform it into one of the highest performing used car dealerships in the entire country, there was another Glenn Lundy. Today, I don't simply want to learn what Glenn Lundy teaches. I want to understand who Glenn Lundy became because I have a feeling that identity, not strategy, is the real competitive advantage. Glenn Lundy, welcome to the Make Sense with Dr. J.C. podcast. Glenn, before we dive in, let me tell you what I'd like about you. One thing I like about you and admire is that you've never

hidden your past. A lot of people build brand around success while quietly burying the chapters that made them. You've done the complete opposite. You've allowed people to, to see the homelessness, the jail cell, the depression, the failures, the rebuilding. There are many motivational speakers out there, but there are far fewer transformational leaders. Transformation doesn't happen because someone tells us what to do. It happens because someone gives us permission to believe change is actually possible. I think you've done that for countless amounts of people, so thank you for being here. So welcome, officially welcome to the Make Sense with Dr. J.C. podcast, Mr. Glenn Lundy.

Well, thank you, man. Thank you. Honored to be here. So my first question, if you've never listened to one of my podcast episodes, this is where it bites you on the ass, because I ask everybody the same question. All right. So from this day forth, you can tell people that you listen to the show. But what does it like to be Glenn Lundy these days? man it's joyful credit it's incredibly joyful i have reached a season of my life right now where i seem to be harvesting some of the uh some of the crops that we've been planting over the last two decades um and so it just really is a fruitful season my kids are all starting to become

little humans like little real people versus you know a little crazy toddlers. They're starting to become little real people. And that's filled with all kinds of anticipation of for what they can become. Right. So that's super fun. And my wife has really settled in. We're now we just officially completed the season of making babies. And now we're headed into. Is that is that over? That's over. That's why I missed your missed the meeting. Right. The last time we're supposed to be a podcast. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm, am I correct that you have nine children? I have nine, yeah. Wow. Yeah, crazy, right? I don't know. I mean, like, I'm not going to share the first thought that comes to my mind. But I'm just going to say congratulations.

Oh, thank you, man. I appreciate it. So, yeah, so what does it like to be like, you know, Glenn Lundy right now? It's definitely a joyful season. You know, I'm getting up at 3.40 in the morning and I'm not going to bed until 1130 at night is purposeful work. When you say that you've been working 10 plus years and you're starting to see some of the fruits of your efforts, it all good or is it all coming at once? Is it all, is it, is it overwhelming at all? There's a quote by Andrew Jackson. And it says, I was built for the storms and a calm does not suit me. Yeah. And I think that is the absolute best way to describe Glenn Lundy. Right.

Describe him in a sentence. So is it a lot all at once? Yes. Is it chaos? Yes. Are we breaking things left and right. Yes. Are we screwing things up? Yes. But all of that is like, that's my sweet spot. That's where I love identifying the weaknesses in my business, weaknesses in my relationships. Like I love identifying those weaknesses because now, you know, now we know what we need to focus on, what we need to build. So it's a lot and it's overwhelming at times. But ultimately, that's where that's the position I love to be in. Who was Glenn Lundy? Because I dug in a little bit. And, you know, I kind of see where you come from. Because when I see somebody doing something as dedicated and, you know, extraordinary as you

and at the level of dedication and consistency and things like that, there's always some sort of story of pain. You know, I mean, there's very few people that are completely committed to living life to the fullest, unless they know what it's like to almost lose it. So who was Glenn Lundy before all of this, you know? Not so much what happened to you, but who was? were you before? To answer your question, who was on before all of this, I like to use words like deadbeat,

loser, victim, and I say victim by like, I believed I was a victim at the time, right, victim mentality. I was still a dreamer and a visionary, but I was a guy who did, didn't have integrity and didn't really have a moral ground to stand on. I was the type of guy that like I was very Darwinistic in my approach of the world. And so, you know, if I could get over on you, that was because you were weak and I was strong.

Yeah. And we were just made of flesh and bone and dirt and rocks. And so there was nothing, you know, it was all my. and body, no, no spiritual element to Glenn Lundy whatsoever. And so being that guy, I put myself in the positions that you tend to find a guy like that in, you know, partied a lot and drank and drugged and chased and, you know, all of those things. Really irresponsible in and out of jail, 17 different times in my 20s. You know, just kind of a, to sum it all up in a sentence, I was a guy who did not understand his identity at all.

I had no idea who I was. And so I was literally just acting every day in a, if it looks good and it feels good, the answer is yes, mindset, very much living in the moment day to day. What do you think people thought of you back then? Oh, I know what people thought of me. People told me often what they thought of me. People thought I was a con man. People thought that I was a liar. People thought that I was a threat.

One who could not be trusted. But what was interesting about all of it was in the midst of all of that somehow for some reason people still cheered for me. My mom was still praying for me even though she knew I was a punk. I had friends and people that I went to school with that were always wanting good for me, even though they could see the path that I was on. So it was really interesting, you know, I guess maybe just being a charismatic kind of guy. I was able to have a lot of people in my corner when there shouldn't have been.

Why do you think that is? Do you think, I mean, because my story is very similar. And all I can tell you about, you know, I sometimes for fun, I say, hey, my name's Dr. J.C. Dornick. I'm a recovering bullshit artist. I've been cleaned for 18 years and everybody goes, hi, hi, JC. But what I'm, what I used to be like was I always needed to be right. I was, you know, confident but cocky.

And, you know, I would assume most people behind closed doors thought I was an asshole. And, you know, I had a defining moment in my life, and I'm sure you did where I finally woke up to that. You know, the most valuable question ever asked to me was one of my mentors said, what's more important to you to be right or kind? and I was like, boom, my whole house of cards fell down. And that was my moment. But why do you think you were acting like that? Now, because you're a very wise man and you coach so many people.

You must have been doing it for a reason. Yeah, I definitely had, I had major identity issues. So I grew up. My dad's black. My mom's white. They got divorced when I was 11. And my dad- Same age, baby.

Same age. I'll send you my book. That's crazy. But my dad who is black got remarried to a black woman. My mom, who was white remarried a white dude. And then they moved into the same apartment complex, two doors down from each other. Wow. So my dad and his new wife and her four kids lived at Greenlaw Garden, Greenlaw Garden Apartments,

2600 East 7th Avenue, Flagstaff, Arizona, apartment number 30. And then my mom and her new husband. and me and my sister were in Greenlaw Garden Apartments, 2,600 East 7th Avenue apartment number 28. So right there. So right there. And literally the two houses were like I had the White House and I had the Black House. And every stereotype that you could think of existed in two houses.

Dad's house was very much the Black House, right? Like hip hop music, Motown, Gospel, Chitlins, collard greens, fried chicken, Kool-Aid. You know, all the stereotypes you could think of existed over at dad's house. And mom's house was very like lower middle class, white trash, hanging out of the bowling alley, drinking Budweiser, listening to country music, apple pie type stuff. So growing up in that environment, man, my skin was too dark to be considered white, but it was too light to be considered black. So even like the black community didn't necessarily embrace me because I was high yellow as

they would call me or, you know, that type of thing. And then the white community, obviously I'm not white, like skin wise. And so that really, like, created this chameleon in me to where whatever environment I was in, I would just try to blend in with that environment. And so if I was around, you know, if I was around cowboys, I'd act like a cowboy. If I was around gangsters, I'd try to be a gang. So I was around, you know, the smokers, the druggies, the partiers, that type of thing. And so I think just me not knowing, man, me not knowing who I was trying to fit in with whatever was going on.

I was just lost, bro. I was just lost. And so being lost, I made poor decisions on the regular. Sure. So what would you say was the defining moment? moment for you? I was homeless in San Diego for a season and homelessness, hopelessness, deep depression. And then that deep depression led me to suicidal thoughts. And I attempted to drown myself in the Pacific Ocean. Failed attempt, obviously. And immediately after that, immediately after that,

I was up on the, I rolled up on the beach. And I'm laying there after trying to take my own life, pretty traumatic moment. And I heard the voice of a God that I didn't believe in. And he said, you take yourself wherever you go. And when I heard those words, I was like, you take yourself wherever you go. Like, it kind of sounded like a fortune cookie, you know, like something you read in a fortune cookie. I'm like, yeah, you got a chat GPT that you can figure it out.

Yeah, I'm like, what does that mean? but then after I had that thought of like what does that mean I remembered an old mentor of mine used to say the same things it was jason kids and he would say you take yourself wherever you go and so he flashed into my mind which took me back to age 20 when I met him and then I like lived the next nine years of my life from 20 to 29 in kind of a really rapid succession and I had lived in multiple cities I had had had multiple jobs. I had all kinds of different friends circles. I had experienced all sorts of different things, but yet the outcome kept being the same. Jail, regret, you know, all those things, right? So when I had this flash of the last nine years, along with you take yourself wherever you go, I was able to see in real time that even though the cities were different, the people were different, the jobs were different, the environment is different. The only thing that was the same was me. Like, I was the only constant in all of those situations. And so I was like, oh, you take yourself wherever you go. Oh, okay, wait a minute.

So I'm actually the catalyst of all things negative in my life. These things that I've been blaming everybody else for, I'm actually the catalyst. I was the guy that was there. And so, soon as that hit me, I was like, oh, wait a minute, if I'm the catalyst for all things negative in my life, does that mean that I can be a catalyst for good things in my life? Sure. And right after I asked that question to myself, rational thinking was like, well, yeah, obviously, if you can create negative, you should be able to create positive. So then the following questioner from there, J.C. was, well, if I can, if I'm the catalyst of all

things positive and negative in my life, then how is that? How can that be? Like, why? Why am I the catalyst? Because as far as I'm concerned, I'm just sticks and stones and dirt and rock. We all are. So how can we actually be catalyst to positive and negative things in our life unless there's something more to us? And so I started a spiritual journey trying to understand how is it that we have this power to create positive and negative in our lives. And that's, spiritual journey is what led me to understanding that we're not just mind and body. We're mind, body, and spirit. And now if it looks good and it feels good and it is good, then I can pursue that. If it just looks good and feels good isn't good, right?

Then I'm not going to pursue it anymore. So that was that moment, man, just hearing, hearing the voice of a God, I didn't believe it and say you take yourself wherever you go. and it just kind of unlocked something up here. And, you know, obviously it was an uphill journey for there. I had a lot of, I had a big hole to dig out from. So it wasn't like everything was roses and butterflies, you know, immediately after. But that was the pivotal moment.

Yeah. Yeah. There's so many people out there coaching people on how to sell and things like that. But your methods are different. You know, they're much more humanistic and things like that. So how did you hone that craft? So I got the gift of being able to work in this car dealership in Paris, Kentucky. My now wife, she wasn't my wife at the time, but she got pregnant.

And she was from Paris, Kentucky, a little small town, population, 9,600 people. And when she was pregnant, she's like, let's move there because my mom can help. And I need you to get like a real job. And so I got a job at this car dealership out there. and in that car dealership, because it was a small town, the odds were against us as far as being one of the biggest dealers in the, you know, in America, the odds were stacked against us. And I knew that going in. I knew that we were the underdogs. But I just believed, like, if we could get people to rally around this place in the right way and if we could set the store up to not just sell into our backyard, but be able to sell on a, on a nationwide platform, there's 300 million people out there.

And if I could just get everybody, you know, inspired enough to believe that we could be the biggest, the best, and the brightest, that we could probably do something pretty spectacular. Because sometimes you need a really small stage to do really big things. Mm. You know what I mean? Like on a big stage, you're kind of expected to do something, you know, on a big stage.

but when you when you can do a big thing on a small stage dude it changes the game yeah and so we just started chipping away at that and i realized like it was working right i grew that dealership 800 in less than six years we went from selling 120 cars a month to selling 850 cars a month we became the second largest used car franchise dealership in the united states of america and that's that's when it really like i was able to assist systematize, systemize what that superpower had always been and apply it in a way that I could quickly see the results. I mean, we went from 30 employees to 300.

We were all over the socials. People were flying in from all around the country to buy cars from us, flying in to work for us. Why is that? What were you doing? What were you doing? What's the secret? What's the magic sauce there? we just recreated it all.

I mean, I know it's more than just a short answer, but like if you had to just package that in a short little, it's all about this. What is it? Well, there would be two. Okay. Maybe three. I'll bring it into three. You got three. Actually, I'll give you a perfect example.

I'll give you a metaphorical example. The NFL, the NFL took a football, right, little pig skin with a bunch of dudes around it that wear helmets that you can. even see their faces and turned it into a $76 billion organization, right? How did they do it? Well, instead of focusing on the game of football itself, they started focusing on the players. And they started telling all you and me all these stories about the players, right? The legendary player, Jerry Rice, the way he attacks the hill. And you had NFL films, right?

They brought in cameraman. Lynn Swan doing ballet. Yes, right? They brought in this epic. filmmakers and they started telling stories of the players and they attached a scoreboard right so that we could we could keep score and then they created uh um adversaries or uh not enemies that's not the right but they gave you someone to cheer for right they gave you a team that you could be a part of you can feel like you be a part of so with my dealership i i tried to take their example i'm like okay cool so

what can we capture, what stories can we tell? And how do we make this not about selling cars, but we make it about growing and developing people? And so I was the first person ever to live stream our Saturday morning sales meetings. So every Saturday morning in the car business, there's a sales meeting. And if you watch any movie about the car business,

you'll see that in that meeting, it's a bunch of guys sitting around talking about how they can rip off all the customers, right? That's how it's shown in the movies. So I'm like, I'm going to live stream our Saturday morning sales meeting so that you can, as a customer, see what's actually happening in my store versus every other store that in your mind is trying to rip everybody off. What you're teaching your guys.

Yeah, yeah. And then as an employer or as a potential employee, I wanted you to see how we do it in my store versus your store, where in your store, they come in and kick you in the teeth. Whereas in my store, we're like celebrating, we're cheering people. on like it's just a we're put on a show bro i put on a show every saturday morning i put on a show and we live streamed that show and people watched and people came in and bought cars because of it and i hired the best in the united states of america people moved to tiny little town pairs kentucky to work with me and so we made it a show we made it about our employees not about the cars

um and we shared a scoreboard so every single week um I would post how many cars we'd sold, who the top three salespeople were, tag them, which their spouses would get so mad if they, you know, imagine your spouse is, you've gone, you've been gone to work for 60 hours last week and you're not on the top three. Your spouse is like, what are you doing, bro? Like, step it up. So where we put scoreboards up so that people could,

could A, keep score, but B, become a, like they could become fans, not just people buying in some cars fans and dude it got to the point where like people would literally fight with their family members if their family members went and bought a car from anywhere else we made songs that people were rocking driving down the road like like it we created the raider nation of the car business people that were willing to like go to bat for us all the time. And by doing that, you know, my best month, we sold 1,132 cars in 27 business days, closed on Sundays. It's unheard of. We sold 100 cars in a day on Memorial Day. But all by telling the story, creating fans and making about our people, not the cars. Would it be safe to say that you had

found your new dopamine rush? Oh, brother. Yeah. Absolutely, man. But this one was helping people. You were helping families. You were putting people in cars. You felt good about it. People like their cars. So it was like that's a big transition as you're getting the dopamine rush. But other people are having some of it too. It wasn't all about you.

So that's interesting. Wow. So obviously that's how you came up with the 800% lifestyle. So tell me a little bit about that because this kind of, when I first met you, that that's kind of like the first thing that I noticed and I really liked, you know. And also I think it's very, very cool that you decided to have those meetings on Saturdays because with the football analogy, Sundays were taken up. You had to go Saturday.

So that was one too, right? If you had those meetings on Sunday, you guys would have sucked. That's right. It would have been over. So tell me, I understand what the 800% represents because you grew 800%. But what is the 800% lifestyle? Yeah, so the, yeah, initially, right, we grew the business 800%. That's kind of where it started. As I started to extract how we did that, I realized that with all of my employees, everybody that worked for me and then people that were watching and online and so on and so forth, what we were actually doing is we were developing humans, right? We were developing humans in what I discovered was eight different pillars of life. Fast forward, I'm a pattern guy.

I'm always looking for patterns, right? So I'm looking at the standard conversation where people are like, you've got to give 100%. You've got to give 100%. You've got to give 100% on your job, 100% when you're at practice, right? Give 100%. And then I look around and I see a lot of people, unfortunately, in my life, family members, friends, so on and so forth that gave 100% at work or whatever

it is and dude they're broke they're miserable yeah like just giving a hundred percent in one area of life doesn't work as far as the patterns that I see um and so I'm like well what are those different pillars of life and what would happen if we if we were to invest a hundred percent into all of those pillars right that's an 800 percent lifestyle so the eight pillars are faith fitness, family, friends, finances, career, education, and mental health. So when we invest in all eight of these, now that's the 800% lifestyle, right? That's when you're walking in true like joy and purpose. And it's not balanced because the investment made in each of those pillars is different to get a result, right?

I invest a certain amount of time, effort, and energy into my wife that is different in the time, effort, and energy that I have to invest sometimes in my business. My wife is happy if I'm just home for about 45 minutes watching silly shows with her at night. Doesn't take a lot of work. She just likes it if I lay in bed next to her and watch everybody loves Raymond, King of Queens, friends, or, you know, one of those silly shows. whereas sometimes my business requires significant investment of time. Yesterday I left and flew out at 6 o'clock in the morning and then got home at 1 o'clock this morning. So the investment is different time-wise, effort-wise, energy-wise, but you've got to give

100% in each of whatever that is. If it's 15 minutes, it's 15 minutes, right? Like fitness for me, it's a 45-minute, 45-minute deal, but I got to give 100% to that 45 minutes every single day. You know what I'm saying? So that's the 800% lifestyle is investing 100% in each of those different pillars of life. So I'm going to speak for the average human. Yeah.

And just say, man, that sounds hard. Because I'm somebody that figured that out like you did in a different way. You know, I'm a big Martin Luther King fan. and, you know, he always talked about the fierce urgency of now. That was kind of my path. I would say I started living the 800% lifestyle without even knowing it. Right. It wasn't like strategic, you know.

So there's that kind of person, and it seems like that's what you did. And you started teaching your guys. And your guys kind of built this North Star of making more money, having better lives and family and stuff like that. And in that environment on a Saturday morning, I would assume that. everybody's fired up and yelling and it and it's good with repetition. But what about that person that wants? You know, Mc Jagger says you can't always get what you want and get what you need.

I want, yeah, I want to be a millionaire. I want to have, I want to have the fruits of the 800% lifestyle. But, ooh, God, that seems hard. What's the starting point for somebody? Does somebody come to you and say, I want. to live the 800% lifestyle, or do they typically come to you saying, I want this? And you say, well, here's how to get it. Yeah, they typically come saying, I want this.

And a lot of times it's like business owners, right? Business owners come to me and say, hey, I'm doing this now and I want to get to this point. How do I do it? Is there any way we can skip the eight pillars and just get it? Right. So typically what I do is I help them, I talk to them in the language that they show up. Sure. Right.

Because we can talk systems and strategies and business. We can talk that all day long. I've got it all. I have the wisdom. I have the experience and I can help. As I get some wins for these business owners, as they get some wins through working with me and the trust level starts to increase, then that's when we start having this other conversation. Like, all right, man, you know, I helped you make an extra, you know, $50,000 last month. congratulations. Now, let's start talking about your morning routine.

Right. Right. Because they'll listen to me once I've gotten them a win. What I've learned, though, J.C., is that yes, there are, there are. So someone, let me back up to answer your question. Where do you start? Starts with awareness. I do an audit every week of those eight pillars. And I grade myself on a scale of one to 10. And so on a one to 10, what's my family dynamic? And I'm basing it on the last seven days. What has happened in the last seven days? Wow.

Right. One to ten. Family, family. Family was a seven over the last seven days. Okay, cool. What about fitness? You know, I worked out twice. I was supposed to work out five times.

I worked out twice. So we're going to give ourselves a four on the fitness scale for the week, right? Finances made more than I should have or I spent more than I made, right? like it's pretty the finance ones is pretty easy to calculate usually it's just math um so i'm going through and i'm grading myself on a scale of one to 10 every week and so i would suggest someone who's just starting right down the eight pillars faith family fitness friends finances career education mental health give yourself a score on a scale of one to 10 and start weekly just auditing that awareness alone right anything we pay attention to gross um we can we can we

can move what me measure or whatever that saying is, right? Whatever gets measured is something, you know, that we can, we can fix or adjust or so on and so forth. And if you just start there, you might surprise yourself. You might be like, holy crap, man, like, you know, I'm a nine on finances, but I'm a two as a father. Yikes. Maybe this week I can create a couple extra special moments.

for my kids. You know, maybe we can go to a movie together this week. Maybe we can have lunch. Maybe I can take my lunch break and go pick the kids up from school and do something fun, right? But just having that awareness will start to spark the steps that you kind of need to take to move those numbers. And then it just kind of becomes a game, right? We're all good at gamification.

There's a reason gamification works. There's a reason everybody's got the little app on their phone that they can't help but open up and try to get the, you know, try to get the little score. That means nothing that you can do nothing with. but there's a reason that it works. So start with a little bit of awareness for where you are, and then you'll start to figure out, God, the universe, whatever it is you believe in,

will start to point you in the direction on how to move the needle in all those areas. Yeah. One of my mentors said, you know, there's 11 commandments, and I said, what is it? He goes, thou shalt not kid thyself. So, you know, when you go to, I don't know if you've ever,

if you've never done this, like one of the greatest immersion, seminars I've ever been to as Joe Dispenza. He does this whole week thing. It's just like, that guy. I don't know anybody doing anything like that guy. But, you know, you come out just like you would if you heard, you know, Glenn Lundy speak for a weekend. And you're just like, wow, there's a lot of stuff.

But like, what do I, what can I do now? What's the first step? And Joe Dispenza always tells people, just become more aware. Just become more open, curious, and aware. of things that are in your control that you're not taken care of. Let's talk about the morning routine. Tell me how you built your morning routine and, you know, what is the science behind it? Yeah, so it goes back to patterns, right?

I'm always seeking trying to find patterns. And when I got to the other side of, you know, you take yourself wherever you go and I began this journey, I used to study a lot of successful people because I wanted to figure out what are the patterns. What is happening here? And interestingly enough, every successful human that I've had the opportunity to study or read or learn about is known to have some sort of powerful morning routine that taps into mind, body, and spirit. And they do it at, different times. There's no consistency when it comes to that. Beyonce, for example, talks about her morning routine. She typically does her morning routine at like noon because she's a performer who

performs late at night. So she doesn't even get in until four in the morning. She doesn't get to bed until five in the morning. But when she wakes up the first two hours, she's a machine on what she does the first two hours. So I have found that the exact time of when it happens is, you know, different for everyone. But what's the same is it's right when they wake up. Right when they wake up, they go into a morning routine that taps mind, body, taps into mind, body, and spirit. And so once I learned that, I was like, okay, cool. Let's, you know, all right, you know, let's try the morning routine thing. Like what, what matters? What does it matter? What works for me? What doesn't work for me? And so I read, I read somewhere or watched a video and Tony Robbins was like, take a cold shower.

right you got to take a cold shower every day and I'm like all right let's do that so I took a cold shower and I freaking hated it bro it was miserable it put me in a terrible state of mind and I was like so cold shower not for me me neither man I tell you know and I'll talk it right to Tony's face like you can take a cold shower shower shove it that's exactly right now I can do a cold plunge as long as I know totally different story totally different story that yeah but I'm not not doing a cold shower, throwing my clothes on and going to work. Like, it's just not happening. Yeah, you might as well just stick a knife in your leg as well, you know. Yeah, exactly. So I started playing with different things. And I came across Mel Robbins. And Mel Robbins

and Mel Robbins talks about started, she talked about sleep cycles and the snooze button. And I was like, oh, okay. So there's a lot of science behind why the snooze button. is the worst thing you could possibly do. Starting your day off with the snooze button is just terrible, terrible for your sleep cycles, terrible for everything. So it was like, okay,

step one, never hit the snoo button. Right. Right. Then research, study, so on and so forth. And it's like when you open your phone first thing in the morning,

everything that's going to come in is either going to put you in a certain emotional state, shift you to a certain frequency, and for the most part, it's going to be negative. It's going to be violence. It's going to be division. Like if you go into social media, it's going to be something negative. If you go into your email, it's likely going to be like a problem, something that needs to be solved. You know, there's just nothing good yet in there. And so there's some science that shows don't touch your phone first anymore. Right. So I'm like, okay, that sounds like good step two. Step two. is don't touch your phone first thing in the morning for me. Then step three, lots of, lots of

research, lots of science around gratitude, is writing down the things that you're grateful for. Most powerful force on earth as far as I'm concerned is gratitude. And then there's a lot of talk about goals and the importance of goals. And J.C., it was interesting, man, when I was researching goals and all statistics or, you know, anytime you pull out of statistics, it's like 99% of statistics are made up statistics. So take it for a great assault. But the statistics show that like 89% of adults know that there's benefit to writing goals, but only like 8% of adults actually write their goals.

It's a fear of success. Well, I thought about it. I'm like, why is it? And then I realized when I used to write my goals, my goals would go like this. I wish I had more money. I wish I had a bigger house and I wish I was better looking, right? Like something along those lines. And I would feel like shit after writing my goals.

Like, oh my gosh, I'm a terrible person. I should be better, right? Whereas I could see like a bunch of people like if they felt that same way, they'd be like, I'm not going to do this anymore. Why would I want to do something that makes me feel crappy all the time? And so I found, though, if I start with gratitude, now it's like, I'm grateful for a roof over my head. I'm grateful that I woke up today. I'm grateful that my bills are paid.

And I wish I had a bigger house. And I wish I was better looking, right? And so it completely shifts the energy of the goals when you start with gratitude. So for me, step three sounds like two. steps, but it's really one, it's writing gratitude and then writing goals. And then once I'm done with that, step four is taking care of the physical, tons of science behind the positive results that come through exercise. You know, so step four is some sort of exercise, walk, run, play basketball, go golf.

I don't care what you do. You know, everybody says you have to do this. I don't say you have to do anything. Just get moving. An object in motion stays in motion. Object at rest stays at rest. And then for me, step five of my morning routine is after I've done all of those things, I send out an encouraging message.

Yeah. And that's your show? What's that? Is that your show? My show and also I text a minimum of five people a day, some sort of encouraging message. Hey, I was thinking about you, just wanted you to know. I appreciate our friendship.

Hey, it was great connecting with you. You're an awesome person. Hey, I saw this on social media. You should be proud. Just some sort of encouraging message. Sometimes it's a sticky note that I'll put on the mirror for my wife or for my kids. Sometimes I'll text my kids. So they'll wake up to a positive message from dad.

Sometimes I'll just go whisper it into my kids ear, bro. Like my seven-year-old will be sleeping. I'll just go whisper in her years. I'm a firm believer that words have energy and energy cannot dissipate. it can only be converted. And every spiritual book that I've read says something about what goes out is what comes back. Yeah. There's no greater stimulant of your identity than feeling useful in serving others.

What I challenge people to do, it's the same thing. I just have a name for it. I always say be somebody's daymaker. I like that. You know, like go make somebody's day. Believe me, everybody would love to have a day maker. And to be a daymaker for five people, which it could even just be smiling at somebody when they walk by.

Sure. Make sure it's not a woman and your wife's next to you, you know, obviously. Right. But it could be so simple. It could be holding somebody's door, complimenting somebody. And I'm pretty sure that the highest form of, you know, self-actualization, as being in service to mankind. So, yeah, there's nothing better than feeling like useful.

Yeah. So that's great. Do you do all these things before your show? Do you come to your show having done all of those things? So I do the first three and then I write my show. You write it in the morning? I write it in the morning. Okay.

Yeah. So I'll do gratitude and goals. And then right after that, I write my show. That's why everybody says, oh, man, I can't believe you talked about this today. I was thinking about it. It's like, we're all thinking about the same stuff. That's exactly right, man. I do the same time.

I tried writing my show ahead of time and it just doesn't come off. You always change it. It's not the real. So I write it the morning of. Then after I get done writing my show, I actually read 10 pages of a book. And then I jump in the car. I come to the studio. And I build the show, which.

I do all the B-roll and build it all in and so on and so forth. Then I go live from 530 to 6 o'clock with the show, 530-ish to 6 o'clock-ish with the show. And then right after the show, I leave and go to the gym. And I'll go do my workout right after the show. And while I'm at the gym is when I typically send my five encouraging messages. I'll share one nugget with you. And there's a lot of science behind it. So, I mean, I never tell anybody what they should do, but I just, like you, I share it.

But there's a lot of science behind this. And people forget that their brains are very much like computers. And just like this computer I'm talking on right now and just you as well. When you open up your computer and it boots up, it's not booting up today. It's booting up what was there yesterday. so the brain works same way. So there's this moment, this precious, precious little moment that's like you got three seconds to grab it. And it is from when you go from offline to online.

It's that first, do this tomorrow, you'll love it. It suits, it's exactly what you always do. But in that first three seconds, and everybody knows that they're waking up, right? But they're kind of like allow themselves to like not know. anything because it's like oh you know all i challenge people to do is during that first three seconds is to just say thank you you don't even have to know what you're thankful for you just say thank you and what happens it's really interesting you'll get a kick out of it what happens is is your brain needs to know that's the way the brain works and the brain's going to kind of say like well for what

right and then you're going to say well i'm a roof over my head you know my wife's right there give her a kiss you know you know i'm alive you know just real basic i'm breathing got another 24 things like that and the science behind it is that if you don't let yesterday's program boot up and the easiest way to stop it is with gratitude just like you said yeah you have just taken control of your day And what most people don't know, even people that have morning routines, is if you let your brain boot up all this shit from yesterday, you're going into your morning routine having to fight that whole thing. So just try it.

It's fun. Just first three seconds just be like, thank you. Yeah. And just watch how your brain demands to know for what. Love it, man. Yeah, that's pretty cool. So I got a couple of lightning round questions for you. All right, cool.

That shows you that I, like, actually put some time into this. All right. One belief you hold today that a 25-year-old Glenn would have laughed at. God is real. 25-year-old with me thought. I thought people were absolute idiots. I was so Darwinistic at the time. You wouldn't have been able to, you can't go.

You wouldn't be able to go back and tell 25. year old Glenn that message and have him understand right no no way dude I was so hard-headed back then it's interesting in my 20s I thought I knew everything in my 30s I realized I knew a few things and now I'm in my 40s and I realize I know nothing what was that you and I got into a conversation and we were both so excited about about living your life so that the 80 year old version of you would be proud or something like that what was that again yeah yeah yeah a big mode of piece for me every day is reminding myself that the 80-year-old version of me does not really have a say or a choice in what his life looks like at that point. Yeah, you do, though. But I do.

50-year-old Glenn gets to choose what 80-year-old Glenn is going to experience. Now, 80-year-old Glenn gets a choice what it looks like moving forward, but he doesn't get to choose what it's like, you know, in that moment. And so what I don't want is 80-year-old Glenn going, God, dang it, I wish 50-year-old Glenn woulda. Yeah. I don't want any of that. So, yeah, that's a big motivating factor for me all the time. I'm pretty sure it was Steve Jobs that reminded us that, you know,

the way that he looked at life is that the only way you can connect the dots of your life is by looking into the past. You can't connect the dots of the future for the. that reason. So, you know, he's just saying it's really important to understand that if you're trying to make sense of your life, the only way you can do it is to connect the dots of things that have already happened. He says, but the real breakthrough is to recognize that this moment right now is a dot. Yeah. I love the way he says that. How about this one? What is Glenn Lundy's, he only picks one. What is Glenn Lundy's favorite leadership book? That isn't yours.

Favorite leadership book. I don't know if it, would you count it as a leadership book? Whatever. So the liberty of our language revealed by Thomas Blackwell is an incredible book that, I guess you would consider it a leadership book because it really talks about the power of our words,

the energy behind our words, and the impact our words have on others and have on our lives. So in order to be an effective leader, you've got to be an effective communicator, you've got to understand words. So yeah, I would say that fits. Liberty of our language review. Cool. That's awesome.

Yeah, my best friend is Jim Quick, so I read a lot of books. But I'm about to go drive to Boston with him. But I always like to hear about new books, and I always like to see if he's read it. It's tough to find a book that he hasn't read. How about this one? Who inspires you the most in your life right now? Who inspires me the most in my life right now? That answer probably has more recently changed.

I think I'm inspired most in my life right now. Man, it's a toss-up. There's a couple different people. I'm really inspired by my 16-year-old daughter, Savannah. she just has this grip on the world that is so fresh and so exciting her potential is through the roof and I see her starting to pick up morning routines and she's now got a new job that she's crushing it and she went after it and got the job even when people were blowing her off and you know so I'm like super inspired by Savannah Rainland.

and she's just a super super super cool kid so i would have to say that's part of it um on the other side grant cardone is is always for some reason i've been an inspiration to me i've been kind of chasing his path and we don't always agree in a line on on all of the same things but the journey that he's been on has been inspiring to me for many many many years and now i'm reaching kind of a tipping point. So he was his company when he was my age, he had a company worth about between $5 and $10 million. And at 51 is when he launched like 10x. Right. He went from being a guy with a $15 million company to a billionaire from 51 to 67.

Yeah. That's attractive to you. You like that idea? Well, I'm 48 and my company's worth more than $15. So I feel like I'm a little bit ahead. And so one of my goals in life is to be able to become that billionaire and tell Grant that I did it faster than him. All right. Hey, you know, why not? Why not? It's not out of a challenge, like a competitive way, but really as a gratitude. I'm sure a guy like him would appreciate it. I would do it faster than you. Yeah. What do you think people assume that you are good at just because of, of your persona that you know that you've got a lot of work to do with.

All right. Here's where this takes my brain. So I was having a conversation with Tim Story. Do you know Tim Story? Sure. And I was talking with Tim Story and I was like, hey, Tim, I won the great American speakoff. I'm the greatest speaker in America.

I love speaking so on and so forth. Right. nobody ever asked me to speak. Like it's so far and few between and rare that people will like ask me to speak. And I was talking, you know, normally it's me having to really like get out there. And so I was talking to Tim's story about it. And he said, he said, Glenn, from the outside, it looks like you're this huge company and you have everything together. So people don't feel like they have anything to offer you.

I was like, yeah, well, that's not true, bro. Like, I don't have this huge company and we don't have it all together. Yeah, we put out 40 pieces of content every single day and all of that content, you know, paints a picture that's larger than life. That's the purpose of social media is to paint this picture that's larger than life. And so we are everywhere and there's a lot of Google juice behind it and so on and so forth. but that has been a truth for us and me as a company for a long time is people don't ask me if I need help. People don't ask to have me participate in things.

And it's because in Tim's eyes, it's because it looks like, you know, I've already got all that put together when the reality is I need a lot of help with a lot of things. Every single day we're out here, you know, grinding to put it together. So that's what comes up. Maybe that's, maybe that's the right answer. No, that's a great answer. And ironically, that's a conversation that's been hot with a lot of people lately. So, Glenn, if people want to, you know, engage with you and maybe take these assessments and, you know, look at their eight pillars and things like that, aside from your socials, we'll put it out there. What would be the best way for people to connect with you?

Yeah, just go to 800% dot life, 800% dot life. percent symbol or the word percent word percent all spelled out 800 percent life and are there any assessments or newsletters they could sign up for yeah it's all there all all right there on that site awesome man you know definitely uh an honor and a privilege to have you on such a fun and easy conversation to have and uh i hope that this is a catalyst for us learning more about one another and having you back on this show one day. But I thank you so much for taking the time out of your 800% life to be on our show.

I appreciate it, man. I've been really looking forward to this. And I too hope this is a part one, not a final chapter. Awesome. Hi, this is Glenn Lundy, and this podcast makes sense. That's it for today. To support the Make Sense with Dr. J.C. podcast, be sure to subscribe, like, and share,

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