Makes Sense - with Dr. JC Doornick - How to Recognize and Follow Life’s Hidden Signals - E168

Starting point is 00:00:00 So the question I have is, has God, the divine universe, are they trying to expose us to something? Are they trying to show us something that we might not see because we're so focused on what we think? Have you noticed that the world that we live in has been doing most of the thinking for you? That your beliefs, perceptions, reactions, fears and doubts have been shaped by unsolicited outside noise? How easy it's been for you to slip into that default sleepwalking mode and label it as life and reality. Yeah, that ends here. Welcome to the Make Sense with Dr. J.C. podcast. This is your opportunity to start thinking for yourself, reclaim control, and step back into that role as the shock caller and dominant force of your own reality.

Starting point is 00:00:49 It's when you change the way that you look at things, that the things that you look at begin to change. So let's wake up. Let's rise up and let's make sense of why and how shift happens. Makes sense. Great morning world, great morning humans. This is your friendly neighborhood dragon with another edition of the Make Sense with Dr. J.C. podcast. It's an honor and a privilege to be here.

Starting point is 00:01:18 I've been doing this for quite a long time and it never gets boring. We're going to talk a little bit about becoming open and aware and curious today. I just love to sit in a place of gratitude. It's just such an honor and privilege to be here. I want to start off today with something that you'll probably relate to, but this is something that's really, really helped me. And that's just this idea of, I just want to share this, what it is that I'm curious about with everything.

Starting point is 00:01:45 I was just sitting out in my backyard reflecting a little bit. And beautiful day, and there's flowers and there's birds. And I just love to look around and just notice other things and wonder why I'm noticing them. We're going to entertain the idea that the universe and God and the divine, whatever you call it, is constantly trying to communicate with us. And sometimes we're just not listening. And a lot of the things that we say we want and the answers that we're looking for,

Starting point is 00:02:14 I think by the end of this episode, you're going to see that they might already be there if you're just willing to open your mind and look and listen. Let's get this started. So one of the first things that crosses my mind when I come to the end, and I start seeing people like Lindsay and Edwin and Jam Sessions, Tina and Patty and all of you folks joining me, I always just kind of look at you at this moment here and I just say, hmm, just like it says on my hat, which means I'm noticing it. I'm not sure what I know about it yet. It stands for haven't made up my mind yet, but I just wonder out of the eight billion people

Starting point is 00:02:51 in the world, because we're streaming live and this is, you know, my podcast is international, out of the 8 billion people in this world, for some reason, the universe has put us together on this day. You know, I don't know why you think you're here. And I don't think I know, but I'm curious about it. Is it just random? Are we here just randomly today? Did you set intentions to be here and put it in your schedule? But still, why?

Starting point is 00:03:17 Is it a coincidence that carries no meaning? Or is there something bigger going on? You could be anywhere. I could be anywhere. I could decide to cancel this. I could have never started it. I could have never followed through, but here we are. As fate would have it, here we are today,

Starting point is 00:03:32 which is pretty interesting to start thinking about. So the question I have is, has God, the divine universe, are they trying to expose us to something? Are they trying to show us something that we might not see because we're so focused on what we think? So the whole concept of the make sense ecosystem and the things that we always teach and the interface response system

Starting point is 00:03:55 and all of that stuff in our, book, which is now on my shelf, just says, you know, well, before you decide on things, you know, consider alternative perspectives and things like that. So we're going to do that. We're going to have some fun with that today. So I think we've all had those moments. I guess we could say like we've had, we've experienced perfect timing, random meetings of people. I don't know if you are someone that pays attention to those things. Maybe that sign that you, you know, weren't even looking for, but for whatever reason it caught your attention. You know, you think of someone's seconds before they call.

Starting point is 00:04:30 Has anyone ever experienced that? You think of somebody just seconds before they call you. And you go, huh, that's weird. Sometimes we have deja vu. Another one would be like, you find exactly what you need just when you're about to give up. You know, that's how I met my wife, Mika. You know, I was just about to give up on dating. I was single for about seven years.

Starting point is 00:04:53 If you ever want to hear that whole story that is in the podcast, it's called the dream daughter story. And then boom, the chances of me meeting my wife are like winning the lotto because she didn't even live near me and all of that stuff. It could be like a message, a person, a conversation, or maybe a song that comes on or a number. Do you guys have a number that keeps showing up and you call it your lucky number? Mine's 55. And I'm going to be 55 in July. So I guess that makes it even more special. But these things show up with such a precision and consistency that kind of deep down inside, you get this feeling, whether you act on it or not, you get this feeling like something more is happening than just a coincidence.

Starting point is 00:05:39 So we usually brush these things off. This is the weird thing about humans, and I think we're always seeking comfort, and we don't want to overwhelm ourselves and complicate things. But we always kind of have a tendency, I know I have, of brushing these things off and just assuming that they're random. We're going to also look at, like, where do we look at, learn to look at things that catch our attention and just call them random. But what if they're not random? We're going to play with that idea. We're going to entertain that idea that maybe they're not random. Maybe there's no such thing as coincidences. I drive my daughter to school every day, and she's just got a great, great big, fluffy brain. And I just asked her, I said, do you know what a

Starting point is 00:06:20 coincidence is? And she says, I think so. She didn't really know what a coincidence. And I just asked her, I said, this is a 16-year-old girl. I said, do you think things just happen by chance, or do you think that they have a bigger meeting? And she says, hmm, right? She's my daughter. And she goes, yeah, I think they do. So I think we all kind of like play with that,

Starting point is 00:06:42 but we have this tendency of like brushing them off and just getting on with our day and handing the keys of trust over to this like day that's like happening to us, right? We like to play in this sandbox with the idea that the day's not happening to us. We can play in, we say the day's happening potentially for us, but we're talking about you engaging with the day in the sense that you can reshape it, reshape reality, become a reality bender. So what if these things that are happening are actually

Starting point is 00:07:12 signals, their messages, it's like mail? So today I want to explore the possibility that there are no coincidences. If you really struggle with that, this is not the right episode for you. We're just going to entertain the alternative perspective that there are no coincidences. We're not challenging anybody's religious beliefs or anything. We're just saying maybe, one of our favorite words, that there are no coincidences and that many of the meaningful moments in your life may actually be invitations and nudges that are trying to move you from living by accident to a place where you're living with awareness and maybe learning that you have a lot more potential. You know, you have the ability to make things happen a little bit more than you thought you did. So it's based on this idea that

Starting point is 00:08:02 perhaps the greatest tragedy in life is not thinking that life has failed you or failed to guide you in life. Sometimes we get like that. We suck our thumb. But that no one ever taught us to really pay attention. I don't know about you, but I didn't learn that in school. I learned. I learned how to pay attention to the teacher that was telling me what I should know. But nobody ever told me to daydream, to let my mind wander in school. Take note of that. In fact, whenever I was daydreaming or wandering, my parents, my mother-father, teacher, preacher, society always said like, hey, get your shit together, get back on track here. So it's no wonder that we brush these things off, because we've kind of been trained to not allow ourselves to do that.

Starting point is 00:08:50 And you know, I've talked a lot about the fact that we're at this species that doesn't allow ourselves to get bored anymore. I don't know if you take note of that. I think it's important to be bored. I think some of the most creative insights in that place of being open and curious happens most when we're bored. Because school didn't teach us that. So consider that about school.

Starting point is 00:09:12 School taught us how to memorize facts. I mean, from what I understand, unless you had a really great teacher. And oh, man, maybe you need to reach out if they're still alive and thank that really, really great teacher. Maybe you are that teacher. We were taught to follow rules, color inside the lines, and conform to systems that were built by people who themselves often walk through life unconsciously. We've been taught systems by people that don't look around so much. and not really taking note of the bigness or the potential bigness of what lies within them. So school didn't teach us how to trust our intuition.

Starting point is 00:09:54 You have to figure that out on your own, or maybe you had a mentor that told you. Go with your gut. I never had a teacher that told me how to answer questions on a test by saying, like, just go with your gut. Now they said study and learn and know, and that's where the secret is. They didn't teach us to notice patterns in our lives. it's another interesting thing. Is anybody out there the kind of person that looks up and looks at architecture and shapes

Starting point is 00:10:20 and things like that and, you know, maybe off in the distance, we look at nature and we start to notice that there's a pattern and recognizing the meaningful timing in things or even just focus on timing. My daughter said to me the other day, she goes, time is strange. And I'm like, what's strange about it? And she's like, well, it's like always happening. What I just said to you is now in the past, and I'm like, that's an amazing observation. She's awakened, you know, recognizing the meaningful timing of things, or maybe even interpreting

Starting point is 00:10:53 the signals in the universe, maybe God has kind of like been constantly offering us. I like to look at the world and life and just say, why has that been left behind for me to see? Like there's clues. I used to play this game when I was a kid called Mist, M-Y-S-T. and, you know, to get through the game, you had to, like, turn every rock over and find these clues because you might need a code to get through some sort of secret door or something. I like to look at life like that. And if you're someone today, and I'm also encouraging you to maybe be that someone,

Starting point is 00:11:27 but if you're someone today that is beginning to kind of wake up to the possibility that everything is connected, some of you are like that, and some of you might just be allowing yourself, or some of you might be having an awakening of that right now. now and that everything is kind of connected together. Be patient with yourself. That's another thing about it. The moment that you start to like take a left instead of a right, recognize that it takes a lot of time to convince the captain of that 120,000 ton oil tanker, it takes time to convince that captain to turn around and consider a completely different route than the one that it's been taking and traveling for the duration of its life. Isn't that interesting? If you, if you, if you, if you,

Starting point is 00:12:10 entertain a different way of looking at things, can you see how you will very, very quickly be rerouted back on course? We always kind of go back to familiar, and we talk a lot about that. And perhaps that new route begins with just one dangerous question that you can ask yourself today. What if there are no coincidences? You'd have to be able to entertain that. What if I don't know everything? What if there's more? So if you're in that space right now, you're powerful. man. You're powerful. And, you know, I just want to give a disclaimer. This is not to say that if you've set your sights on something, a course, that you shouldn't see it through and follow through. But I just think it's healthy. Adam Grant wrote a book called Think Again. And what he's basically saying is it's very

Starting point is 00:12:58 healthy to think again. We're taught to not be indecisive. We're taught to be certain and just stay the course and never quit. There is some value to that. But are you the kind of person that entertains what else? So ask that question. What if there are no coincidences? So ancient civilizations, when I did some work on this, ancient civilizations didn't call those moments that we're talking about coincidences. They actually called them things like omens and signs and messages or maybe even divine guidance. The Egyptians and the Greeks and the Mayans and the indigenous cultures believed life itself was constantly communicating through patterns and symbols. And we know this from all these digs, right?

Starting point is 00:13:43 Patterns and symbols to those open and aware enough to listen. I mean, like, has anyone noticed that if you go back in time and we start to uncover things like how the pyramids were built and stuff like that? We see that there must have been some sort of technology that might even be more advanced than us in our advanced state. Has anyone ever noticed that? I've gone to Peru several times and I've in the Sacred Valley and I've gone to these amazing you know, Machapitou and all that stuff and God, I don't know if we can pull together on

Starting point is 00:14:16 Machu Picchu today with all of our technology. So modern society calls this stuff luck or chance or randomness. Statistical probability is something that we rely on. So I was asking myself, has progress, all this progress that we're so connected to, we're all, we're, seeking efficiency and speed and all of that stuff. I had a great talk with my buddy Jim Quick a couple nights ago. Any Jim Quick fans out there? And we were just talking about what's happening with AI and all of that stuff. And things are really about to start speeding up.

Starting point is 00:14:54 If you have your finger on the pulse of that, with all of this agentic stuff and all these agents doing things better than humans and all that, and we know that like AI is not going to take over humanity. it's the humans that work with it are going to take over the people that don't. But we were just looking at that idea that we better get our shit together as humans. We better become more conscious and aware

Starting point is 00:15:16 and in some sort of way reclaim control or else, because what we're doing is we're relinquishing the control. So modern society is kind of like trained us to think as this chance and luck and randomness, statistical probability, right? Has progress become so progressive that it's trained us to keep our mouth shut.

Starting point is 00:15:38 Let me get in YouTube here and see what you guys are saying. Oh, Modern Hero Stories is here. From your perspective, do you think labeling something as a coincidence is a practical way to avoid overthinking? Powerful. From your perspective, do you think labeling something as a coincidence is a practical way, a strategic maybe even way, of avoiding overthinking?

Starting point is 00:16:00 Or does it potentially overlook deeper? Well, I mean, I would assume that you're overlooking deeper connections because it would relinquish you from having to reroute your course. I think we get very, very scared of figuring out that everything that we've built our identity on might not be true, like religion and political views or whatever mask you're wearing in life, you get very comfortable with it. And when these things start to happen, these potentially magical things, and we just say, oh, that's just a coincidence. All right. There's no deeper meaning. Yes, you're right. I think that the strategy behind that, and that might be coming from our subconscious to keep us safe, is just to say, like, hey, let's not take on too much here.

Starting point is 00:16:51 You know, let's just have a good day. So that's great. So Carl Young, any Carl Young fans out there, Carl Young gave this phenomenon that we're talking about a name. He called them synchronicities. Now, I have a whole chapter in my book. Makes sense how to rewire your mind and transform your life. Synchronicities is something that I've been following. In fact, my whole life has been following and seeking meetings.

Starting point is 00:17:14 I'm a big, big fan of all of that stuff. So he defined synchronicities as meaningful coincidences without having an apparent causal relationship. So in other words, what Young was saying is events that appear unrelated on the surface. See, that's the problem is we look at the surface. Events that appear to be unrelated on the surface potentially carry undeniable personal meaning beneath. What a fun way to look at life. If you can't entertain that something has underlying meaning beneath, what does that say about life? It means that you're just watching a movie rather than acknowledging that you're participating

Starting point is 00:17:58 and creating that movie. So Young believed synchronicities often appear during periods of transformation. This is really cool. During times of uncertainty, awakening, and identity shifts, you know, moments when you're becoming fully yourself. When I came across that, it just made me go, hmm, isn't that interesting to chew on right there what he's saying? What he's saying is he's asking us to consider, do synchronicity, signs, clues, and, you know,

Starting point is 00:18:27 this potential guidance system that I'm entertaining here with you today, show up more often when we're leaning into the discomfort and inconvenience of life and growth. I mean, think about it. We're all saying the obstacles away, lean into the uncomfortable. I just told somebody that this morning. I said, just make sure, because, you know, all of a sudden we get this idea that we're on our way. We figured it out. And all we've really done sometimes, and I'm speaking for myself only, we got comfortable with something. Sometimes we mistake comfort with direction. I think it's important to be uncomfortable. The Sto always called it voluntary discomfort. Why? Well, for many reasons, but what we're playing with today is that that's where all the magic potentially happens.

Starting point is 00:19:15 For anybody that's tried plant medicine, that's not a good time. You know, you're not having fun when you're doing something like ayahuasca, but you have these massive breakthroughs on the other side of, like really hard times. I like to play with that because I don't know about you, but this idea that life sucks and then you die, it's kind of true, you know, not in a bad way, but it means that for the most part, I would say life's been tough and full of hard lessons. And I have this tendency of focusing on the good stuff and keeping my eye on the prize in the future and not staying in the present moment. But if it is true, and I think it is, we have to learn how to embrace the suck. We have to learn how to dance in the rain. So this raises an even deeper, this idea of playing hard and going

Starting point is 00:20:02 through hard times and leaning into that and saying maybe that's where all of these things happen most, maybe. It raises a deeper question. If these are messages, if we start entertaining that this stuff is not just random, they're not coincidences and their messages, synchronicities, who or what is sending them. Now, I don't know what you guys think about that stuff, but if we are getting messages, who or what is sending them? Where are they coming from, human beings? If you're getting a message, I mean, you could say God, you can say the universe, you can say the divine, if that's your thing, if that's your blueprint. But when I start to notice these things, I don't just look for the lesson in them. I say, where did that come from? Did it come from? Did it come from,

Starting point is 00:20:51 somewhere else, or maybe it was already there. Maybe it's tucked away in your subconscious mind. Maybe we're so focused that there's some sort of powerful entity out there trying to communicate things with us that we're forgetting that maybe we were born with some of these things, playing with the idea of destiny and calling and all of that stuff. I love to get to know myself a little bit more. So some believe synchronicities arrive from your subconscious mind, that your deeper awareness has this ability to notice patterns before your conscious mind catches up. What that means

Starting point is 00:21:26 is that there's a whole world of things going on in your brain without you knowing it. Happening before your conscious mind, your prefrontal cortex, your CEO that goes, ah, that's interesting. What this is saying is these things already exist and they're happening before you know it. So what's the value of becoming open and curious and aware? Well, you tap in. to these things a little bit more. Because when you're open and curious and you're not fixed and closed-minded, then you have this ability to look at other things. And we're doing that right now. Others believe that they emerge from a collective unconsciousness, a shared field of mind-connecting all of us. What do you guys think about that? Does everybody here agree that we're all connected?

Starting point is 00:22:11 Or do you think you're separate and unique, better or worse than everybody? Or are we all just interconnected. I like to look at us kind of like extensions of nature, but we're just wireless. Because if you look under the soil, nature's all connected here to the other side of the planet. But once we're above ground, we start to think that we're special. I think we're just wireless. We're just a form of the same thing, and we're just wireless. Others believe that that's where it come from, the collective unconsciousness, that we're all connected. I like that because I'm currently of the persuasion, I like to say things like that. I'm currently of the persuasion that consciousness, this hard problem of consciousness, I'm currently under the persuasion that consciousness

Starting point is 00:22:56 lives in the space between all things. That means that consciousness is living in the space between you and I, me and this microphone, in this space, not in my brain. My brain is a device that can either tap into it and communicate with it or not. That's what I'm of the persuasion of right now. I'm by far not telling you that's what it is. But in the space between all things and the open and curious person, are you getting the idea that there's maybe some value in entertaining becoming an open and curious person? Or maybe we can call it a more conscious person is simply somebody that has greater access to that space. The rest, the herd, are focused on the noise. There's a lot of noise in the world right now. Lots and lots of noise. And if you're focused on the noise, you're missing the signal.

Starting point is 00:23:47 You're not tuned into the right frequency that you might need to be tuned into. So all of a sudden, you become open and curious, and you're practicing gratitude and you're unwrapping the present moment, or you're meditating, or you're doing all these wonderful things, breath work or whatever, or I have this plant medicine experience. And boom, we have this epiphany. Is that something that was on the outside that we had to go find? Or is that just this moment where we have this ability to look inward and see what already is? I love that. So religious traditions often interpret these things as divine providence, guidance from God. Now, I have no idea what is right and wrong because I haven't made up my mind about anything, but I know that I make stuff up all the time. That feels right and

Starting point is 00:24:33 feels good. That's why I kind of pause and I run the interface response system and I say, well, wait a second now. What else might be true? I allow myself to entertain what else might be true. Skeptics would say that there are merely coincidences. Skeptics, I've been a skeptic, a great deal of my life about certain things. They're merely coincidences combined with a pattern recognition of the brain's tendency to assign meeting. So I do think that our brains are meaning making machines. So what we know about the science of the brain is that we have a tendency of not knowing everything. So what we do, and we use this from our pattern recognitions and our memories and all of this stuff that we learned in our formative years and society and all that stuff that we're

Starting point is 00:25:23 consuming all the time, which makes us assuming it all the time, we have a tendency of filling in the gaps of what we don't know with what we've been taught. So even if I'm like devout and like going through a phase of my life where it's all about religion and God and things like that, and I'll justify it and stand for myself. I've just learned to just say, well, what else might be true? So do I claim to know this stuff for certain? No. And I revel in uncertainty. In fact, I'm at this place in my life where very often people come at you. You know, when you start to rise in life, you know, that whole hate you because I've done that to people as well. A lot of people try to me down and they'll say mean things to me or call me names or something. I'm at the point now where

Starting point is 00:26:08 I don't even discount that. I go, well, listen, if I am an asshole or if I am what you say you are or I'm full of shit, please explain. I don't know who you are. Explain to me what you mean. Go a little bit further on that because I'm not certain of anything. Maybe you're right. And of course, what happens in that conversation is you realize that it had nothing to do with you. It's just somebody like picking you to vent on, but are you willing to entertain the idea that something that you discount might be? It's just fun. It's fun. Do you believe that the mind is merely an active observer of reality? Do you think that your mind is just something you use to observe reality? Or do you think that the mind is an active participant in the shaping of reality? What are you, you?

Starting point is 00:27:01 your thoughts on that. Do you think that you play a role in shaping reality? Close your eyes and tell me what happens to reality. It's just a thought and a projection, right? But as soon as you open your eyes and you start looking at things, your sense-making machine and your meaning-making machine starts to go around and make sense of things, but what you don't realize, and this is why the interface response system in my book is so important and valuable, you don't realize that your meaning-making machine is using its software, its program, its code to do all that stuff. So do you believe that the mind is merely an active observer of reality or a participant in the shaping of reality? Is reality a movie that you watch or a movie that you're involved in production? And the reason why we're

Starting point is 00:27:54 doing this is because if you answer that question in a certain way, it changes everything. If the mind only is an observer, then what happens is in that moment, you're accepting the fact that life is just happening to you. We got a lot of great personal growth books that say, life's not happening to you, it's happening for you. And we all say, yeah, amen. But how often are you playing by those rules or open to it? If life is happening to you right now, it's because you think that you're just observing life and you don't have a say in it. And I know a lot of you out there know that you do have a say in it. I can decide if I'm going to have a good day to day or not. I can decide if something's going to bother me long term or not. I mean, I do have my stress response

Starting point is 00:28:39 system and I do have my programming just like all of you. I freak out if somebody says something mean to me or I get an unexpected bill or somebody gives me the finger. My visceral stress response system does the same thing that yours does. But what I do is I say, hmm, interesting. What else might be true? So that's what the interface response system will help you with. But if the mind is a participant, if we're acknowledging and playing with that in the shaping of reality, then suddenly your thoughts, beliefs, attention, awareness, expectations, and emotional state become variables in the equation. What that means is, is that everything's up for having a look at. If you play It's like the red pill versus the blue pill.

Starting point is 00:29:26 That's the choice. You could just go back to handing the keys of trust over the world and letting the things happen as they may. And maybe that's why you believe in a governing force out there. Because like, God will show me the way, the divine will show me the way. What that's saying is I don't have to worry about figuring all this stuff out. There's a guiding force taking me along.

Starting point is 00:29:48 Kind of like the current in a river. And if that's working for you, then that's great. I'm in this space right now where I'm questioning things and having fun with it. So if that's true, perhaps synchronacies are not random at all. That's what we're having fun with today. So perhaps synchronicities are actually evidence that your inner world and your outer world are more interconnected than you thought. So what we're saying is that this outer world idea where all this magic is happening,

Starting point is 00:30:16 we're entertaining the idea that we have a say in it, that we're part of the equation. and maybe we're entertaining now that they're more interconnected than we had thought. So whenever I say, what do you think? Where does that come from? Is that 100% you thinking about it? Or did other things and people and events in your life have a say in it as well? Mainstream science often suggests that this is merely an illusion, what we're talking about, created by the brain's faulty, incomplete perception,

Starting point is 00:30:49 that we are vulnerable to false meaning making and pattern seeking. We're constantly trying to figure things out in a way we forget that things are not really figureoutable. We're trying to create something that feels right to get through this day. So we don't want to question everything. And I don't question everything, but I give myself permission to. I like to get comfortable sometimes and do stupid shit. It also entertains that we're vulnerable to false meaning making.

Starting point is 00:31:17 That's why we do the interface responses and when we pause and we question things because we know that that's a possibility. So let me ask you this. Have you noticed or been exposed to the fact that the entire universe appears to be built on patterns and interconnected structures? Here's what we know. Well, I shouldn't say what we know. Here's the best information that we have. All it's science or whatever. But if you really tap into this, you'll see that nature outside all this.

Starting point is 00:31:47 amazing nature, if you really look deep in it, and I know some of you know this, follows fractal geometry. So we're starting to see that everything has a pattern. Planetary systems out there move with mathematical precision. Even human DNA is encoded with repeating sequences. How do I know this? Because we're able to actually duplicate it now. So everything that we observe in existence, everything, including what we're doing right now, everything, everything is. Everything is, that we observe in existence appears to function through pattern, cycle, systems, and relationships. So why would the human experience that we're talking about be any different? Why do we think that our thoughts and our feelings and our perceptions of things

Starting point is 00:32:34 and what we think about things is separate and unique and different from the overall structure and patterns that we see in the universe? Isn't that interesting how we think that? Let me see. Ivana says, the more I listen to you, the more I am questioning myself. For years, I've been telling my kids to embrace the suck, right? Kids don't really understand what that means completely, so we have to go a little further. And I was convinced that it was a me thing, and I just heard you saying the same thing.

Starting point is 00:33:08 Well, here's another fun thing that we could say about that, Ivana. So let's look at this idea of looking at things the wrong way. and making mistakes or making distinctions. This would give you permission to entertain that there's a pattern to that there's a pattern to the healthy things and unhealthy things that we do. But what we're just doing is we're entertaining the idea that there's a pattern. And the reason why we want to do that is because it allows you to start looking at things differently. Remember what Wayne Dyer says. It's one of the tenets of our make sense ecosystem. If you change the way you look at things, the things you look at change. what we're doing now is we're allowing ourselves to execute on that and change the way we look at things.

Starting point is 00:33:48 That's what the interface response system is for. It's giving you the ability to look at things from alternative perspectives rather than the known. So everybody says growth takes place outside the comfort zone. I like to say that growth takes place outside the comfort known. The most uncomfortable zone is outside the comfort known. And that's called the unknown, right? That's the unknown. That's why we fear the unknown.

Starting point is 00:34:14 But if somebody's in massive growth right now, they're not afraid of the unknown. We're going to talk about superpowers and gifts that you were given next week, and that'll help you kind of figure yourself out a little bit. So why would humans be any different? So why would we somehow be excluded from the governing architecture of the universe? And why would our thoughts, feelings, emotions, and relationships and life experiences not follow the same underlying structure?

Starting point is 00:34:42 Are we that unique and different? Or is everything connected? Maybe. And if you can't acknowledge that and you can't entertain that, well, life is happening to you. Or maybe you're kind of like middle road. In Buddhism, they talk about neither here nor there. Maybe you're in the middle of two things, entertaining both sides. That's healthier.

Starting point is 00:35:06 And by the way, this stuff is exhausting for you to contemplate everything. You know, we like to go through life a little bit on cruise control. It's kind of nice to not think and stuff like that. But we're just playing with the idea of can you allow yourself to do that? So perhaps synchronicities are evidence of that design. Or at the very least, they are compelling evidence that would validate us taking a look at things. What I've found is that those who reject the possibility of synchronicities and think that everything is just like random coincidences,

Starting point is 00:35:39 often do so not because they have disproven it, but because for whatever reason, it's due to their mother, father, teacher, preacher. They won't allow it. They simply won't allow it. Isn't that funny how there could be like this broad horizon of all this magical stuff out there? This, there could be more.

Starting point is 00:36:02 What else is there? Maybe uncertainty, all of that. Hmm. How we have this ability to have, not allow it. I won't allow it. What's the platform that we use to not allow things? Our conditioning. Our beliefs. So Matthew Brownfield is saying, well, it's fear. Well, what is fear? What are we afraid of? We're afraid of the unknown, right? We're afraid that our known is incorrect. We're not completely as strong and foundational as we thought or as we were taught.

Starting point is 00:36:36 just recognizing that thought and taught sounds similar. Perhaps certainty closes more doors than ignorance ever could. In that sense, I understand what it is that we're probably not wanting to do. But what I'm saying is uncertainty and how ignorance could open more doors. And maybe that's why modern culture is so quick to dismiss all of this, because they don't want to be ignorant. I think I'm calling myself ignorant right now. By the way, this is what society does.

Starting point is 00:37:11 And I'm not blaming anybody because I don't think anybody's conscious of this, even the powers that be. If you want to control a population or a large group of people, the first step that we have to take is to make sure that they never discover their own power. If I make sure that you never discover your own power and I control you, I mean, that's how I start. If I want to start a cult, that's how I'll do it. I need to teach you not to.

Starting point is 00:37:35 to trust your intuition. Silly rabbit, tricks are for kids. Never let them believe that they can think for themselves deeply enough to question the system. That's how you control people, and people will support that. Never let them realize that they may have access to a guidance beyond the approved channels of society. Because the moment somebody truly begins to tune in to that day, if you guys go tune into this day just even a little bit and start trusting or even entertaining your perception and noticing those patterns, life may actually mean something bigger. So this gives a whole new meaning to those of you that think you're stuck. And also, this becomes, when you start playing with this stuff, you become a lot harder to control.

Starting point is 00:38:27 So if you feel like you're being controlled in life right now, well, this is why. Some people would call this becoming unfuckwithable, and it's just about you thinking for yourself in a world that's doing the thinking for you. Now, before anyone thinks that I've lost my mind, and I've gone completely off the rails, let me acknowledge the rational perspective here. There are scientific explanations for all of this, pattern recognition, confirmation bias, selective attention, subconscious processing, all of that stuff. There's the reticular activating system where our brain has this ability. Like you go look at a red car and you see red cars all over the place. But here's the question. Even if synchronicities are simply your subconscious

Starting point is 00:39:09 surfacing information before your conscious awareness catches up, does that make them any less valuable? So if your deeper mind is recognizing opportunities, warnings, connections, and patterns before you do, well, that's still guidance and intelligence. isn't it? Can you see that there's a guidance system? When you start playing with things like intuition and your gut, like what do you think that is? Do you think that that's like your brain doing that? Or is there something bigger happening? Maybe we already have all the answers. Maybe we've just gotten caught up and scattered in all of the outside noise. It's still guidance and intelligence. Is this not worth paying attention? Well, it depends on your state right now.

Starting point is 00:39:57 But I think a lot of you are probably saying this is worth paying attention to. This is where the interface response system comes in. And I think we've talked about that. You know, the first step that you'd want to do is become more aware and perceive with entertaining mindset that there's a pattern. Perceive the pattern. Then from an open and curious place, step two, you're going to pause instead of just simply dismissing it.

Starting point is 00:40:25 You're just going to allow yourself to do that. If you typically dismiss things, you go, ah, deja vu, huh. You know, oh, I just saw that person get out of the car and then five hours later they're sitting next to me. I got this feeling. That's weird. I just thought of that person in the phone rang. If you just dismiss that as a coincidence, you're just going to start saying, hmm, maybe. Then after that, step three, you're going to process what it may be trying to tell you and simply ask questions about it and entertain alternative perspectives. why won't we allow that? Why won't we allow ourselves to entertain alternative perspectives?

Starting point is 00:41:02 And then simply proceed. That's how we make a conscious response versus a reaction. Proceed accordingly in support of your goals and dreams. So this is how you stop living by accident and start living with awareness. So imagine this for a second. Imagine discovering that there has been a shoebox full of letters and mail hidden under your bed your entire life. letters containing direction, reassurance, warning, encouragement, and reminding you of who you are

Starting point is 00:41:32 and why you're here and what you're meant to do. But nobody ever told you they were there. Or you never allowed yourself to look under the bed. That might be what synchronicities are. They might be male from the universe, messages from your subconscious, signals from life itself. So the point remains the same. Perhaps life is trying to help you more than you. you realize. Sometimes I suck my thumb and think that life's giving me an unfair shake. Maybe life is trying to help us more than we realize, even in the suck. Perhaps the reason that so many people remain lost, stressed, overwhelmed, and disconnected is not that guidance is absent. The way is absent, but more so because they never learned

Starting point is 00:42:20 how to listen to it. And we said in the beginning that we don't learn that in school. So I'm going to leave you guys with this. What patterns in your life keep showing up that you may have been too distracted to give some time, energy and focus to or notice? Because maybe the signs that you've been waiting for and praying for and hoping for have already arrived. That's it for today. To support the Make Sense with Dr. J.C. podcast, be sure to subscribe, like, and share, as well as follow the Make Sense substack for free daily quote. live streams and blogs. And remember, learning without action

Starting point is 00:43:00 is just another form of distraction. If something hit home and you learn something today, give it away. That's the only way it's going to stay. See you next time. Makes sense.

Makes Sense - with Dr. JC Doornick - How to Recognize and Follow Life’s Hidden Signals - E168

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