Makes Sense - with Dr. JC Doornick - Makes Sense Mondays - Science? Fact or Fiction - Episode 35

Episode Date: June 24, 2024

What lies in the balance of you creating a belief in something then allowing that belief to solidify in your mind as a Fact? What are the factors that have persuaded you to know what you know to be so? Religion? Politics? Culture? Mathematics and Science? Lets unpack this phenomenon and expose the truths about the validity of SCIENCE   Welcome to MAKES SENSE MONDAYS with Dr. JC Doornick "Dragon" where we makes sense of the things that make you go Hmmm? Start your week off the right way by reclaiming control of your Great Morning.   LIVE STREAMED on Facebook, Linkedin, and Youtube MAKES SENSE PODCAST   SUBSCRIBE/RATE/REVIEW & SHARE our new podcast. FOLLOW the NEW Podcast - You will find a "Follow" button top right. This will enable the podcast software to alert you when a new episode launches each https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/makes-sense-with-dr-jc-doornick/id1730954168    OUR SPONSOR: Enjoy the show and consider joining our psychological safe haven and environment where you can begin to thrive. The Makes Sense Academy. https://www.skool.com/makes-sense-academy/about Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Hmm. Makes sense. Great morning humans. Great morning world. This is your boy, Dr. J.C. Dornick. And this is another edition of the Make Sense with Dr. J.C. podcast. And this is Make Sense Mondays. So today we're going to make sense of science. This is going to be an interesting one that will hopefully ruffle some feathers.

Does science represent fact or just another belief system or even opinion? I'll throw that in there that we've been persuaded to. believe in rather than something that is factual. So welcome, everybody. We're going to do our Make Sense Monday. What we're doing with Make Sense Mondays is we're looking to gain an advantage over everyone else. And I know that you've been taught not to do that. But I'm going to give you permission to gain access and an advantage, an unfair advantage. And remember, if you ever gain an advantage, it's only unfair if you don't teach somebody else how to do it. But what we're going to do is we're going look to gain an unfair advantage over everyone else by simply becoming aware of some things that the

sleepwalking masses, as I refer to them, are not aware of. That's the first step. I teach something called the interface response system in our private Make Sense Academy community. If you're interested in more in-depth work and some more consistent work, this kind of a conversation, but live and interactive with us in our private community, just always welcome to put the words, make sense. And I'll send you a invite to that and I'm working with my wife, Chicken, Mika, and our partner, Jules Loken. The world is pretty much sleepwalking. So if you decide to just allow yourself to become aware of things, I mean, forget about whether or not you take action, which is required. But if you just allow yourself to become aware of certain things, you have an unfair advantage

because the world is sleepwalk. So that's the first step of that interface response system is just to become aware, allow yourself to become aware of things. And that's a big theme because we're to talk about science and belief today when very often human behavior is that they get locked and tethered into one thing. And what they can't see is because they're so committed to one thing, which they've been taught to do, it doesn't permit them to be open and curious to another. By showing up and makes sense Mondays, it's giving you the ability to allow yourself, take the right protect switch off of your SD drive and allow new information. You don't have to tethered to it. You don't have to lock it in, but you're just going to take a look at it.

Hmm. As an observer, it's who you are that determines how well what you do works. And if you change the way you look at things, you'll find that the things that you look at in life begin to change. But that would have to be a choice. If you're locked up and stuck and frustrated and not satisfied with your life experience and where it's projected to go right now, then what you're going to want to do is see things change. So the first step would be to allow. yourself to change the way you look at things. Welcome to Make Sense Mondays. Make sense? Are you ready? Okay. So let's start off with this concept here today. How does the human being, you and I, how do we create a belief about something, but then take that extra step of making that belief,

something that we lock in as what we would call the known or something that we would determine is a fact, an exclamation point at the end. How does something enter our lives as a belief and then go to the next step, sometimes regardless of whether or not there's fact, or in this case, we're going to talk about science or mathematics that prove it, but we still lock it in and we start to preach. Even if there's a tickle in the back of the human brain that says, you know, you don't really know if that's true. But how do we get to this point where we can say something is true without proof, right? So that's an interesting thing. So in my almost 20 years, somebody that is very entrenched in studying human behavior and the human brain and specific and what motivates the brain to perceive

things a certain way and then react. I've made one very, very clear distinction and I want to share that with you today about you and the human brain. The way that the human brain works, and this is exciting, but it's also dangerous because it might be the reason that you're stuck and frustrated right now. It's also the thing that will unstuck you and unfustrate you right now is the fact that things don't need to be fact in order to become facts. What that means is your brain has the ability to believe in anything without proof. And guess what that means? Here's what's exciting about that. That includes you and what you think about your ability to succeed, to change, to rise up. I'm doing things in my life right now that I still can't believe I'm doing because

there was a time in my life where it just wasn't part of my ideology. I just didn't resonate with that. So what are the man-made things in life that persuade us to shift our perception about something that can at once be perceived as impossible? And then in another moment, not only become possible, but a fact and one that you can begin to defend no matter what others say when they present their facts. What I'm saying is something that you right now, because it's not in your belief system yet, can become part of your belief. system and then become part of what you know to be fact to the point where you will defend it and what are you defending it against? You're defending it against what other people claim to be facts.

So this conversation today is about like, how do we determine things or facts? There's many, many different ways. And some of them are more on the factual side, but some of them are more perceptions based on perspectives. And we'll talk about the difference between perspective and perceptions today. What's the value of this conversation? As always, to set you up for success, set you up for more of a win in your life experience today by becoming the dominant force of your thoughts, feelings, and more importantly, the thing we control the most, our response to what's going to happen today, because what's going to happen today is going to happen today. These things are opinions. We have opinions that are, that were indoctrinated to, and culturally

related stimulants. That's one way. One way that we, create our beliefs, which turn into what we call the known, is we hear opinions and cultural related stimulants from things like religion and politics that capture the deeply entrenched beliefs of our brain and individuals in general. So think about that. Think about your mother father, your teacher, your preacher. Society is supporting that. And then you've been paid forward and shared everything that came from evolution. Think about all of the things that you were taught. And we know that to wire something in your brain, it just needs to be repetitive in the teachings. Because the first time you learn something, you don't believe it right away.

Well, I guess you could if it comes from the right source. But you have opinions and culturally backed up and related stimulants from things like religion and politics from your mother, father, teacher, preacher. See, this is interesting. During the formative years, the human brain basically accepts everything that it learns as, what is. But we don't have the ability in those early years to understand that there's a perspective that it's coming from, the teachings and the style of teachings and that passion or the lack of passion behind it. So we're being programmed by people that are taking what it is that they think to be true, but using their own perspective and life experience and their own philosophies to teach us.

and then we just say, oh, that's what it is. So right now, there's a good chance that what it is that you see is just what you believe you see, but it doesn't necessarily mean that it's what is. Make sense? And then there are the more studied. Now, I don't even know how much validity I can give the concept of studying, but the more studied and mechanical stimulants like mathematics and science. Right now, we're at a bifurcation.

You now, and this is that unfair advantage, you now have the ability to say, where did I get my information from and what was the perspective that it came from? Are you more apt to believe in things that came from a certain source that you resonate with because you've been indoctrinated into that? Or are you somebody that checks facts using things like mathematics and science? I'm not saying one is better than the other because I'm open and curious to anything that is better. I look at the world as a scientist. I'm going to share what that means. But I just want you to just be aware because if you want more in life, you might want to take a little bit of look under the hood. I want to talk about science today. This is about making sense of science.

What's most interesting about science, in my opinion, is the scientist, the characteristics of the scientist. I'm not so much tethered to science. I'm more interested in how science comes about, and that is via the scientist. So I had an interview, and it's one from the vault. It's actually in the Makes Sense podcast as well. But with cognitive psychologist, bestselling author of a book called the case against reality, one of my heroes, one of the smartest individuals in the world, blown up on TEDXTA or TED. He's also a professor at the University of California, and his name is Donald Hoffman, one of the smartest, most open and curious scientists that I know. And he shares an interesting fact about being a scientist. Remember, scientists have created science. So we're kind of

looking like, is science valid because it is one of the things that we use to create belief systems and what we call facts. Because some will say that science is just another opinion, because it is manmade. They're just using formulas for it. But it doesn't necessarily mean that it is the ultimate baseline of truth. I don't think anything is the ultimate baseline of truth. I'm always looking for the next most valid version. So when somebody tells me something and they want my opinion, I would say, well, I need to learn more. Unless it is interpreted in my mind as something valid, I just leave it as something that you believe, right? What he shares is an interesting fact about the scientist. Hoffman explains that the scientists, this is a fun way to live your life, are not so much interested

in being right as much as interested in learning what is more right, writer. So that's what I love about being a scientist. I love the idea of allowing myself to not so much need to be right, but more interested in this idea of being open to evolutions and improvements of what's right. Now, that's a big difference between the way I used to live my life. A scientist will share their scientific theory to a room of other scientists, and he or she is presenting something that they believe, and this is a hypothesis that they believe, that's based on their findings. So remember, scientists use scientific formulas to get what they're called their findings,

and then they present them to scientists. And if everybody accepts it, it becomes science. But what's interesting about scientists is if after I present my theory, my hypothesis based on my findings to other scientists, if another scientist steps up and then begins to present an alternate theory on the same topic that's based on their findings, if I'm a scientist, I will look at that and be open and curious to that being better because what my interest is is what is the best, most accurate, most up-to-date version of the truth.

Because I don't think we're ever going to know the truth. But what we're doing is we're using things to determine what the truth is. Now, remember, there's that other side that doesn't care about science. They think science is an opinion. And they use what it is that they learned from when they were children. They're putting the keys of trust into the mother, father, teacher, preacher, society, believing what they see in society and on the news, and also just assuming that our forefathers that passed on everything that they learned about what's good and bad and things like that

is fact. So isn't that interesting? So you can ask yourself right now, what side of the track are you on? And I just want you to know that I'm fine with it. Today we're just making sense of science. I'm challenging science to see how valid it is, or at least what my opinion is. So the other scientists, when they hear that you present, will not feel the need to dispute who's right or wrong, but rather listen to one another with the open curiosity to see whose science is more solid. Wouldn't that be a fun way to go through life without having to stand guard over the things that you think are fact? When you kind of know that there's no fact behind it, it's just what you think and you feel. And there's, you know, there's some value to committing

and standing to protect, right? But it's holding you back from learning something that might be more true. So I love this idea and I live my life in what I call an apathetic and equanimous way. See, we were born to think that being apathetic was a bad thing. But all it really means is not being disturbed by external temptations and passions. I don't allow myself to be disturbed by external temptations and passions. And what would be a temptation? It would be me buying into something just because it's coming from somewhere and just thinking, if it comes from there, science or my religion, it's true. I don't see either side as one.

I like to gain wisdom as I go through life. And I just find that it brings me closer to where I want to go. So what I mean by saying apathetic and equanimous is, remember, if you hear something that sounds right, How did you come to that place where you think something sounds right? That's your perspective. And where does your perspective come from, your mother, your father, your teacher, or preacher? So if something sounds right, it might be a bad thing unless your system and how you're moving through life is satisfactory to you. But if you're not enjoying the metrics and you want more and you know there's more and you

want to take more advantage of this 24 hours in front of you, you would need flip a switch undo the right protect and allow yourself to be more open and curious, more apathetic. So I'm experienced enough now in my life to allow myself time to pause and think. Because if I don't pause and think, second step of the interface response system that we teach in our community, if I don't allow myself to pause and actually think, then I will just allow my knee-jerk reaction to just do its thing. I'll run my regularly scheduled program. Remember, it's who you are that determines how well what you do works. And if you change the way you look at things, that's how you get the things that you look at to change. So if you're not willing to even stop and think

about looking at something a different way, well, then nothing will ever change. Now, if you hear that right now and say, he's crazy, well, that's because you've taken that other path. If you really, really look at things like the truth, in fact, you'll see that the human brain decides what's true, in fact. Whenever somebody tells me something and in my brain it processes as insane, it doesn't matter what I think, because whatever you think is what is. So you have the ability to control that. So if you don't like your current situation, change the way you look at things. Let's take a quick break to hear from our sponsor. The Make Sense podcast is sponsored by the Make Sense Academy, co-created by both myself, Meeker, aka The Chicken, and The Dragon. The Make Sense Academy is a live

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Rise UpwithDragon.com and check out the Make Sense Academy, risk-free, with a money-back guarantee. Now, back to the Make Sense podcast. So why is this such an important topic of discussion? Because most of the reason people struggle in life is due to the degree of ease in which they can be persuaded to be sure about something. The degree and ease upon which a human can be persuaded to believe something and bring it into the realm of what they know and fact, that happened to maybe have a possibility of not being fact, being so, you know, the Mark Twain, it's the things that we know for sure that just ain't so. Are you

open to that? Are you open to the idea that some things that you know just ain't so? So I believe this vulnerability lies within the information of our ideology. It's a really cool word to think about. Ideology through our programming. Ideology is a set of opinions or beliefs of a group or an individual. Very often ideology refers to a set of religious, political beliefs or a set of ideas that characterize a particular culture, capitalism, communism, socialism, Marxism, those are ideologies. So stop right there. Don't look at it as good or bad, but just recognize you probably have some form of ideology and that makes you vulnerable to being persuaded in a certain direction. Sit with that. Sit with that for a second. The degree and ease upon which you can be

persuaded to believe something is very much attached to this concept of your dominant ideology. So the dominant ideology in society is passed along through the society's major social institutions. I've got a new daughter. I've got two older kids, but I'm doing it again and I'm watching it. How is it passed on? Social media, the family, education, religion. So your mother, father, teacher, preacher, society, evolution, aka what I call your programmers. That's how you're becoming tethered to an ideology. Now, some people would say, but that's my survival mechanism. I have to have some sort of a belief system as my baseline to use. I get that.

And that's why it's not an easy thing. But what I'm telling you is, is it might be getting you in trouble because it might be making it easy for you to be persuaded by things that just ain't so or not necessarily true. So it's wired within you and it's giving you this predisposition and vulnerability to buy into certain things and shut down others. Remember, if you're easily persuaded into one thing, you're also easily, persuaded to shut down other things. That's called cognitive bias. So one of the universal

predispositions is that of science and the validity of it. What validity does science bring to the table? If you're easily persuaded to say, hey, it's science, so therefore it's true. That's what I'm disputing here today. Is everything that we read in a scientific journal, like I remember as a doctor, people would always say, it's a peer-reviewed journal. So what does that even mean? Okay, so a certain group of peers reviewed this and it's based on scientific formulas, does that mean that it's the end all science? Well, there's a way of looking at that. And I think that it probably means that it's the most updated version of something and it's at least been researched. So I kind of lean on that side of not believing everything, but recognizing that if I read something that's been peer reviewed

and backed on science, it doesn't mean I'm all in with it. It just means, oh, that's the most updated version of the truth. Interesting, noted. But at the end of the day, if I want to change the way I look at things and see the world change, I can do that. I can decide to do anything. But I don't want external forces doing it. So another interesting ideological pattern. This is really fascinating of human beings is to get tethered to the ideas that have been fed to us. The things that we've been fed are right and, you know, versus wrong. So one of my favorite is this idea of that humans are supposed to care about everything. This is one of the things that I think that we've been fed. You're supposed to care about everything. I see the value in it, but the problem is, is that like, if you're like me,

most of my life, I cared so much about everything that I didn't take time to care about myself. You can get persuaded to get so busy caring about everything because that's what you think you're supposed to do, including politics, war, religion. I tell people that I don't watch the news. And it bothers them because they say you should care about it. I wonder if they ever sit back and say, he didn't tell me what I should do, right? He just told me what he does. There's an example of how we've been taught

that we should care everything. So even if it has nothing to do with my goals, in fact, if I say watching the news has nothing to do with my goals, I'll get labeled as selfish. What's wrong with being selfish? Human beings don't think say or do anything without having value for themselves.

So it's a fascinating concept. So this prompts people to watch the news, scroll social media and take part in the conversations that they deem crucial and worthy of their time. And then on the other hand, they approach somebody like me and say, I'm stuck. I want more. And then when I look at their diet and I'm not just talking about what they eat, but what they consume with regularity, well, I say, well, that's why you're making these assumptions. It's because it's based on your consumptions in life. The idea of you are what you eat goes further than just food.

So even more worthy than going after their dreams, these things that they're so caring about. So this makes humans highly distractible. So I think it's the number one disease in the human race right now. And you're seeing it like get acceleratingly worse with children is how easily distracted we are. So you want to become the dominant force of your life. You have to become aware of this. So remember this. All humans carry two attributes that are running on autopilot in their sense making.

machines all the time. When I say sense making machines, I mean your brain and your six senses, your virtual reality suit that's interpreting the world. Here are the two traits and attributes that are running on autopilot in your brain all the time. Perception and perspective. Write those two words down because it's very interesting. They can sneak by you and you could be basing things on your perception without understanding that it's based on a perspective as well. So let me just explain the difference between perception and perspective. This is a power move for you today. So it's valued to become aware and know the difference of these two. So perception is the mechanical process of interpreting sensory information. That's with your brain and your six senses. Your senses

perceive things, goes to the brain, make a decision that's very much affected by your mother, father, teacher, preacher, society evolution. But that's what perception is, is we just automatically perceive things and we feel things. That's perception. However, perspective is an overall framework through which we view the world. So, This incorporates other things. Perception is more immediate and sensory-based. That's our stress response system and things like that. While perspective is a broader, more abstract concept that encompasses our beliefs and our values. So do you see the difference between me having a perspective on something? When I say I have a perspective on something, I'm saying something that's based on my

beliefs and core values. And we know where those come from. It could be some science and mathematics, but also could become religious and indoctrination and things like that. That's what a perspective is. So can you see how your perspective, which encapsulates your life experience in programming thus far, has actually sculpted and created the lens and ideology through which you look at the world and create your perception. Your perception is based on your perspective. That's the power move right now, is to say, is what I see, what I get,

or just what I see. We're just allowing ourselves to say, hmm, I wonder where my perspective came from. So that's a big conversation that we have. That's the first step of the interface response system. Where did I become who I am? And why do I look at things and feel this way and think, think this way? So that's that MFTP. But now we're saying, and that is very much persuading my perception. So no, what I see, even right now as I'm talking to you, you is not what I get. What I see is what I see. Do you have the ability to recognize that right now? If you do, you're on the verge of a breakthrough, but it's not easy because your perspective is locked in. It's like a 120,000 tonne oil tanker moving forward. This idea allows us to look at the

value of gaining a new perspective. Are you open to gaining a new perspective? That's what it means to change the way I look at things. I have to first be open to gaining a new perspective. That's what changing the way you look at things requires your openness to look at things differently. Are you open to gaining a new perspective? That's what the makes sense podcast is about. It's not about telling you you're right or wrong. It's just about saying, hmm. So my conclusion about science, making sense of science is this. I like to voluntarily interface with the world as a scientist. I think it's fun. I like the idea of not requiring my program perspective and ego to be right as much as it wants to be and also allow myself to remain open and curious to not just look at what's right,

because that's my first instinct, but open and curious to look at what's writer or more right. So in my coaching and in my private community, we're called the Make Sense Academy. You can always write Make Sense and I'll send you an invitation, risk free, check it out. We teach a four-step process called the interface response system. It's a really fun, goofproof system that you can run while you're interfacing with the world, which you could learn by listening to the first 10 episodes of my podcast. If you go back and start from the beginning, listen to the first 10 episodes, you'll understand what the interface response system is. But if you want to actually learn it and wire it in and become the dominant force, check out the Make Sense Academy. So I see science as the most current baseline to make our best guess at what we can believe and

call fact. It doesn't mean it's fact, but it's the best we have at this time. Do I also allow myself to be exposed to things that are not backed by science? Of course I do, but I don't easily become tethered, because I'm not easily persuaded. I see science is the most current baseline to make our best guess at what we can believe in and call fact and know that it's always open to new and better theories that will evolve into my more accurate what I call facts. But if I find, myself tethered, this is the key, if I find myself tethered, like automatically assuming things to my ideological beliefs, and I allow them to become that baseline for what I think is fact, if I catch myself doing that, well, then I assume I'd unconsciously practice cognitive bias

like the world is doing right now and protect this concept, whether it's true or not, and also shut everything else out. So observe yourself and observe the world right now, practicing cognitive bias. It's like if I say something that potentially proves what you're saying is wrong or even insinuates it, you're just going to go, no, no, no, no, no, and I'm the enemy. So what can you do with this information today? You can actually start to work on this stuff. Okay, makes sense. It'll help you start to look at things differently and then natural the things that you look at will change. I'm telling you, you've been blessed with 24 hours today and you can make it just completely pivotal rather than just go through the motions and allow you.

give the keys of trust over to your programmed way of doing things. I spoke to a client this morning and I could hear them going back to their old patterns. And I just said, hey, how do you feel about that? Do you want to put a stop to that? And they said, yeah. So then we have something to work with. Share the words, make sense with me through the comments or direct message or email. And I'll hook you up with all of our cost-free assets for your personal growth as well as your expansion. and I'll also introduce you to our community where this conversation is happening live and we're discussing things and people are making breakthroughs. In essence, what we're looking to do is rewire, awaken the sleepwalking masses,

and rewires people's brains and empower them and equip them to reclaim control of their lives. If that sounds sexy to you, reach out, give me the words, make sense. Have a great day and I'll see you soon.