Mantra with Jemma Sbeg - I Know That Love Won’t Pass Me

Episode Date: May 12, 2025

This week's mantra is I Know That Love Won’t Pass Me. In a world that often pressures us to rush or question our timeline, it’s easy to fear we’re missing out on love. But real love—true, aligned, soul-deep love—arrives when it’s meant to. In this episode of Mantra, we explore how to trust in divine timing, release the urge to chase or force connection, and find peace in the in-between. Knowing that love won’t pass you means grounding in your worth, staying open, and believing that what’s meant for you is already on its way. This Mantra will help you soften, trust, and hold space for love in all its forms. Mantra is an OpenMind Original Podcast, powered by PAVE Studios. Listen wherever you get your podcasts. For ad-free listening and early access to episodes, subscribe to OpenMind+ on Apple Podcasts. Don’t miss out on all things Mantra! Instagram: @mantraopenmind | @OpenMindStudios TikTok: @OpenMind Facebook: @0penmindstudios X: @OpenMindStudios YouTube: @OpenMind_Studios To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

This is Open Mind. Welcome to a brand new week. Here is your mantra. I know that love won't pass me. I'm your host, Gemma Spake, and I'm here to guide you toward a more centered and fulfilling life. Each week I'll share personal stories and insights that are focused on a specific mantra, plus general prompts and a weekly challenge for all of us to help put it into action.

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Welcome back. We're going to talk about this week's mantra in just a few, but before we do, it's time for my highs, lows, and who knows. So a big high. I think we've had a lot of highs recently because obviously with my book coming out, there's just been so much good stuff going on. And as a continuation of that, I've been traveling around Australia at the moment doing my book tour.

But my book tour, I wanted to do something a little bit different instead of just going to a bookstore and signing a bunch of books and only getting a couple of minutes with everyone. I decided to do a Dinner with Strangers series. I'm going to four different cities around Australia, maybe five if we can sneak Perth in there, and having dinner with listeners of Maltro and listeners of The Psychology of Your 20s, and now readers of my book, Person

in Progress, it has been so much fun. It has been a delight. We have drunk wine. We have had really deep, vulnerable chats. We've been able to discuss the book. And honestly, it's just been so rewarding. It's been such a fun experience. And I feel like this kind of stuff really makes podcasting feel more special and feel more exciting.

As much as I love sitting here talking to you all through a microphone, there is a sense of community that I think I sometimes lack by working for myself and not having colleagues and not having an office to go into every day. And this has just been a really special grounding exercise and grounding opportunity. And it's just been a whole lot of fun. So that is a huge high for me right now. There are a few more dinners coming up. So if you live in Australia, I do think there are tickets still available.

So make sure you check that out. Make sure that you see if I'm coming to your city because it would be great to have a bite to eat, have a wine, have a diet coke if you're not drinking and just get to catch up. So huge high. Okay, let's get into it. It's time for this week's mantra. I know that love won't pass me. Love is probably the most important thing we have as humans. I don't think that can be overstated. People write sonnets and poems and start wars and die for love. They sacrifice everything because of love.

It is probably the most valuable thing we have and the most coveted thing that human beings, I don't want to say own, but experience. Here's the thing, love comes in many different forms. We know that as well. We have platonic love, that special intimacy that we have with our friends. We have self-love, the love we show ourselves, familial love, even like the love we have for our pets. And it's just this purest kind of emotional energy. It's like this explosion from your chest that like lands on anyone

and anything who comes near it. And of course that's something that we want. And when that comes in a romantic form, it's something that we greatly desire, especially since we know romantic love is something our society loves to put on a pedestal above all other essential categories. It seems that at any stage in our life, we must either be in romantic love, be in pursuit of romantic love, or be recovering from a time romantic love didn't work out the way that we planned.

But it always finds its way back into the center of everything going on in your life. And with that, big questions do emerge. Will I ever find my big love? Will I ever find someone who loves me and puts as much into our relationship as I'm willing to? you know, is the love I have now meant forever, and what if it isn't? I personally think that a lot of our anxieties towards love emerge because our current philosophy on this subject and this feeling is entirely wrong. We think of love as something to possess and gain, and that we have one soulmate and that we need to be hunting for them to check it off our to-do list to say, okay, this part of my life

is complete. I found the one. Now I can rest and move on and do everything else that I need to do. I think we have little room for appreciating that love has its own journey to us and for us. And also that not all love is meant to last and that's honestly okay. In fact, it's quite beautiful because as our mantra says, the love that is meant to last will last and the love that is meant to be in your life won't pass you. That doesn't necessarily mean it will never leave you, but I do believe that each love

story has a timeline, a very unique and intended timeline. Some love lasts forever, some are just lessons, but you have to not be scared of sometimes preparing to let go, knowing that the right person and the right feelings and the right love will find you. So let's work backwards together here and answer this question. Why do we have such a sense of urgency when it comes to love? And why does this urgency often mean we chase love that is not meant for us? Because we have all been guilty of doing that.

I think a large part of this has to do with social conditioning and milestone anxiety. As we said before, we can often be pressured into thinking our life is incomplete until we have a partner or that something is wrong with us or we're missing out. And this can create a real sense of panic and urgency to find someone and find someone fast. You know what it reminds me of? When you were a kid, did you ever play that game where your teacher would call out a number,

and you have to get into pairs or groups of three or four, based on whatever number they'd said and everybody would like scramble and scream and run about and try and find someone. And whoever the odd one out was, like they would just kind of stand there and everyone would like look at them. And dating sometimes feels like that, especially when everyone else around you may be in a relationship and especially the older you get.

This fear of missing out or being the odd one out, I guess, is the first biggest factor that drives us into love that is not meant for us. There is this long-standing stereotype as well about people who have never been married, who are still living alone at 40, 50, 60, 70. We have been taught to pity them and question, how could they ever be fulfilled? Don't we all want someone to grow old with? I'm going to squash that myth right away.

You know who some of the happiest people in the world are? Single women over 50 with no kids. Which group has the most hobbies and friends for their age group? Single men over 50. How insane is that? Buying into this idea that being single is misery means we end up buying into this dangerous fallacy that we need to be searching, hunting, racing, rushing to find love. And that specifically ends up creating what we call a scarcity mindset.

Now, you've probably heard of this term before. What you might not know is that a scarcity mindset is actually an economics term. It was an economics term identified to explain why people end up making decisions that are irrational and not right for them when faced with the idea that something is rare. So you might say this, you're at the grocery store and your favorite muesli bar, your favorite bread, your favorite drink, let's say your favorite energy drink, there's only two boxes

left on the shelf and you really only need one, but because there's only one other left and you think, oh my God, maybe they're running out, you might buy the second box. And you get home and you're like, I didn't need 20 cans of this energy drink. This is ridiculous. Or, you know, someone else like tells you that this bag that you see in a store is rare and you're like, well, if it's rare, I better buy it. Must be a good deal. Now this applies to our decisions as consumers and shoppers. It also applies to love sometimes. When you feel like there is very few good people left or that good people are hard to find or that the older you get, the harder it is to find someone,

you are going to do what we explained before and grab the nearest person. Grab the person who plops into your life accidentally, who probably isn't right for you, but is just there. This also begins to impact our behaviors. We begin to approach a love very artificially and inorganically. We play games, we force ourselves to go on dates with people we know won't be a match. One of my friends is dating right now and she was saying to me, I don't know why I went

on a third date with this person when I knew from the first date that we weren't right. And I was like, it's probably the scarcity effect. We also overlook certain factors we know are important to us, because we just want to check off the relationship box. That's why people end up dating people that actually don't meet their standards who don't want kids and they really do, who don't want marriage and they really do, who doesn't want to travel and they want to explore. We also pretend to be someone we're not,

molding ourselves to someone else's preferences, rather than thinking, what do I actually want and need? This reminds me of a really wonderful saying, and I quote this all the time, you cannot say the wrong thing to the right person. All these games and this facade we put up when we're worried we're going to scare someone off,

it's genuinely not worth it because if they don't like something about you in the first month, they're not going to like it in six months. Being completely open and raw about who you are is the best litmus test for determining who should stay in your life. We also tend to, as a result of the scarcity mindset, over-invest way too early. I have been guilty of this in the past. We fall in love with someone's potential,

and we don't trust love's natural course. We try and catch it, contain it, box it too soon when we are still in this very important growth and curiosity phase. We can also become quite jealous and make decisions we wouldn't have made if we had more trust in A, our self-worth and B, this truth that love will not pass you. I want to talk about an interesting psychology study here that was actually conducted a few years ago called Why Do We Settle? It explained exactly this phenomena of people being afraid of being single at a certain age,

being concerned that love was taking its time and wouldn't arrive. They started dating people who did not meet their preferences, did not make them happy, weren't even kind to them. Sometimes they didn't even find them attractive, just so they could say, well, I have a relationship. Honestly, I don't blame us for approaching love this way because being loved, it's amazing, it's a drug. It feels so fulfilling if, and only if it's authentic and real though, and that's something we need to remind ourselves. It's very easy to confuse a lot of other ideas and concepts and feelings with love.

Love is one of those feelings that strangely feels like a lot of other sensations and experiences because a lot of them operate on the same plane. But I want to remind you here that attention and love are not the same thing. Chemistry and compatibility are not the same. Validation and love certainly aren't either. All humans want to be validated and that can be a factor in our pursuit of love. But being validated means you've done something that someone approves of. It doesn't mean that they will love you the same when you're doing something that they don't care about or doing something that they don't wish you would be doing or when you disagree or argue.

We want that unconditional love and connection that you need to wait for sometimes and I think can only emerge from being committed to showing up authentically in every single stage of your relationship, including the early days, being clear on what you want, not trying to mold yourself to someone else's preferences, and being prepared to let go when your instinct calls you to, knowing that greater love is waiting for you. This is really the best approach and philosophy. Not one of panic, urgency, forcing connections, but one of acceptance, release, and committing to who you are. One of trust really that love will come,

even if it's taking the scenic route, but in the meantime, you are going to pour all of that love into yourself. I think the big mistake we make is thinking that we are in the before, thinking that we are in a waiting room right now if true love hasn't come into our lives. We need to shift our mindset to actually pouring all the love we have right now into ourselves and the other equally valuable connections with friends and family. Your life does not begin or end with romantic connection.

It does begin with you. And if it comes, which it will, it's just going to be a fantastic bonus. I don't want you to think about your life as before and after. I'm going to say it again, before and after I find love, whereby if you're living in the before, you just have to dawdle your thumbs. No, you have got to live right now. Life is not a partnered affair,

it's a community affair, and it's also a solo self-exploration evolution. You know, these reflections are definitely going to ask you to confront some very deep assumptions that we carry about love that have probably been there for a long time. But please understand love is just a natural addition and I'm going to invite you to really see how you can let it flow more naturally into your life in our next section. Coming up, let's get personal. I want to talk about the times when I've questioned whether love has perhaps forgotten me

and what happened when I kind of stopped thinking about it so hard and stopped looking. So stay tuned. We'll be right back after this brief pause. looking. So stay tuned. We'll be right back after this brief pause. Now that we've looked at the meaning behind today's mantra, I know that love won't pass me. It's time to get personal with you guys and just share some of my own insights and reflections about this phrase. I actually want to talk about the love I've experienced in my own life, particularly two situations that really relate to this mantra for me. So a time when I forced love that wasn't there and wasn't meant to be, and a time when I

truly believed that I had let true love go and that love had passed me. In fact, I think I'm going to start with that second scenario first. And I want to talk about my first big adult relationship and what was at the time my biggest love that I'd ever experienced. And we dated for two years and I was so smitten. There were just so many firsts. First time meeting the family, first time going on all these trips together, first time just doing so many things. It was incredible. I thought no one would ever understand me better.

I truly believed he was the one that we shared some past life, and we had a lot of fun together. But as we approached the two-year mark, I remember just knowing in my deepest of hearts, we can call it a gut instinct, I guess, like this relationship isn't working. It's not working for either of us. We are not happy. We are not contributing to each other's lives. I

don't think we like each other as much as we did at the beginning anymore. So we mutually broke it off. And I still remember where we did that. It was like I went over to his house and it was like on his couch and we cried and we held each other and then I left. Then I spent the next six months thinking about him. I spent the next six months being like, I have made the biggest, worst mistake of my life. This was the one. He was my soulmate.

I'm never going to feel this way about anyone else. I tried so hard to get him back. I remember distinctly listening to this song, I think it's called Is It Just Me? And it's like an indie heartbreak song. And I was listening to that at the beach in my hometown in Karumbin, just sobbing and sobbing. And I was like, I'm never going to feel better. And this old man walked past my car and knocked on my window and was like, honey, like, are you okay? Has someone hurt you? Have you crashed your car?'' And he was so concerned for me and I was like,

''I'm sorry, I'm going through a breakup.'' And he was like, ''It's going to be okay.'' And then he just left. And so there was a lot of emotions occurring. And I think I really just had to face this fear that deep down, I would be alone, that I had made a huge terrible mistake and that love had passed me. Spoiler alert, that was definitely not true.

Four years later, I can say that was entirely irrational, but it felt very real at that moment. And it led to the second experience I want to talk about today. And that was like the six month to the second experience I want to talk about today. And that was like the six month to one year period after that split in which I was like a crazed animal. I was looking for anyone who could give me attention or affection and I was confusing it with romance. And this led to many of the behaviors we discussed before. I tolerated mixed messages. I tolerated people not texting me back for days. I tried to force myself to be someone I wasn't.

I feigned interest in things I didn't care about, like metal music. I don't care about that, but I pretended that I was the biggest fan. I inconvenienced myself to ensure they had easy access to me. I put my needs below their own for what I thought was this like amazing prize. This love that I was going to get and it wasn't even a real prize. It was the potential of love. And I guess I feared that because I had passed on this previous person, something better wasn't going to come along.

I had really lost my trust in love's endless capacity for perfect timing and to surprise you. I was like, you know what? I don't like this timeline. I'm just going to take over and I'm going to grab this person and I'm just going to shove them into this big human-shaped hole I have in my heart and pretend they fit. It reminds me of this analogy

that we've all been given a puzzle that we need to make, and there's a missing piece, and that is someone else, someone that will truly love us. And in our desperation to find the missing piece, we will just shove any kind of puzzle piece in there, and we will cut out parts of our own puzzle and parts of our own life to fit someone else in, and we will cut parts of them to help them fit in.

Sometimes you just have to be like, this isn't the right one. Here is three things I really learned from this situation. Some people aren't meant to work, but there is opportunity for connection everywhere that is not always going to translate into a powerful bond because you cannot rush a good thing. I also believe that the wrong relationship, it is going to do more damage than we think. When you have the choice in this scenario, always, and I mean always, if you have the choice between a

relationship that feels kind of okay and remaining single, remain single. Remain committed to your growth. It is so much better to be alone and thriving than partnered and stressed, tense, constantly worried whether this love is real, unconditional or contrived. It can definitely be hard though, so if you want to learn to trust that love is coming for you and seeking you, even if you don't feel it right now, these are some practices that I think we can implement. Number one, I want you to redefine what love looks like.

Allow it to encompass so much more than you think it does. Do for your friends and your family and for yourself what you would imagine yourself doing for a partner. So surprise parties, love letters, phone calls, trips, sincere words of appreciation. Just because you don't have a boyfriend or a girlfriend or a partner, doesn't mean that love is cut off, doesn't mean that the pipe is blocked. You need to continue showing love in all other regions and areas of your life.

And that way, you'll fear its absence a whole lot less because you'll be like, huh, this thing that I thought I could only get from one person is all around me in so many different forms. I also want you to commit to dating yourself for a while. A lot of the time in our efforts to squeeze love into our lives, we end up becoming quite burnt out. I want you to take a little dating detox and I want you to take yourself on dates. I want you to show your love languages to yourself. I want you to spoil yourself. That second last point, show your love languages to yourself. I found that when I was single

and going through these very lessons, this was remarkable for me because I was under the impression that if I didn't have a partner, I wouldn't have access to the kind of love I was after. Primarily, quality time and words of affirmation and physical touch and acts of service, gifts. So I started doing them for myself. If I wanted someone to say, I love you, I could say that to myself. If I wanted someone to buy me gifts, I could do that. Quality time, I could go on solo adventures,

micro adventures, do beautiful things. There was this really beautiful lesson in realizing that I actually already have so much of what I thought I needed. I also want to advise you to really fill your life with new interests that deepen your character and deepen your sense of confidence and just interest in the world. Sometimes I would find that the reason I was so fixated on these people is because I didn't have anything else to think about. I was letting them become

the entire universe to me when there was so much more out there. So we're signing up for our classes, we are committing to a goal. Maybe it's a running goal, maybe it's a savings goal, maybe it's a personal development goal. We are committing to it so that we have less time to sit there and fixate and think about this person and therefore further almost engrave them into our mind when they don't deserve that yet. Finally, stop seeing single as a waiting room as before life gets good. I love my partner. I love my boyfriend. He is incredible.

He is amazing. I'm truly blessed, but there are parts of being single that I took for granted when I was there. There is something magical in being able to go and travel and not have to think about someone else and make career decisions not having to think about someone else, make decisions around where you're going to live, what you're going to do today, what you're going to eat on Friday night, where you're going to go on Saturday without thinking about,

do we have to go see my in-laws? What does he want to do? What does he want to do? What do they want to do? I have to think about his preferences or her preferences. This is a truly remarkable time. Having done all these things, it meant that when love suddenly did appear, I had no expectations.

I didn't put undue pressure on it because I knew I'd be okay if it worked out or if it didn't because I was so happy being single. I had practiced being single. It actually felt really fun to me. And then when I did find love, here's how it was so different from the love that had previously been in my life. It didn't ask me to change. It didn't ask me to prove anything. And there wasn't the same anxiety, this anxiety of like, is this going to leave? It just exists. It just is.

And that sense of comfort and knowing is something that I think you find with the right person when you let the right person find you. You know, it's very vulnerable to say, I'm a little bit lonely and I'm worried that I will remain unseen or that love may have skipped me. But I think sitting with those feelings can also make space for something very soft to enter.

With that in mind, I'd love to share our deep thought of the day. This quote is from Rumi. Your task is not to seek for love, but merely to seek and find all the barriers within yourself that you have built against it. Now this is a component to this mantra we haven't spoken about yet. Doing the work to ensure that when healthy love does arrive, you have all the tools to sustain and appreciate it. You know, we are not just going to do this work for the promise of this prize at the end. We're going to do this work for ourselves. You know, when you find yourself

focused outwards constantly, see that as a sign to focus inwards. What insecurity is being projected here? What fear do I need to address? What am I secretly worried about that could end up sabotaging a future relationship? And the question I always ask myself was, if I were to meet my soulmate right now, would I be able to recognize them? Would I be my best self in that relationship

as best as I could be? Or would I be so consumed with fear that I wouldn't even realize what I had? That's really the question you want to ask yourself. What do you need to do and what do you need to focus on so that the barriers for love within you are lessened? Now I'd like us to take a few moments to really pause and sit with this mantra. In just a few moments, you'll hear a custom music track to help you create space to absorb today's insights and consider how you might bring this mantra into your week and maybe

even beyond. And of course, if this practice isn't your style, if it doesn't resonate with you, that's totally okay. Feel free to skip ahead about 30 seconds, but as you settle in, keep our mantra in mind. I know that love won't pass me. Let it guide your thoughts as the music plays and just give yourself a moment to reflect and connect with what this mantra really means for you. Beautiful. Coming up, we are going to take everything we've unpacked about love, timing and trust

and ground it in real life. up, we are going to take everything we've unpacked about love, timing and trust and ground it in real life. I will share some general prompts and of course our weekly challenge. So stick around for more after this short break. Where you are today does not dictate the person you can become. Now, how the hell do you actually become the person you want to be? It is with me Lisa Bilou and my podcast Women of Impact with my amazing guests like Mel Robbins, Jay Shetty, Angie Martinez and they come on to share their wisdom so that we can take it away

and actually be able to use that as a tool in our lives. So myie, tune in to Women of Impact with me, Lisa Villiue, wherever you listen to this podcast and let's crush her bad-assery and confidence together. Welcome back. It's time to explore how we can bring this week's mantra to life in a way that feels very real and grounded, starting with our journal practice. Now, remember if your journal isn't nearby or if journaling isn't your thing, I know some people don't enjoy it as much as I do, just simply pause and reflect on these questions wherever you are. If you're in the car, if you're cleaning,

if you're at work, just pause and think about them and that's equally okay. Here are your prompts to help you reflect and gain clarity with this week's mantra? I know that love won't pass me. Firstly, what stories do you tell yourself about being chosen? And how are those stories helping or hurting you? Next, where in your life are you still chasing love that isn't reciprocating? And what would it mean to release that chase? And finally, what would you change in your daily life if you fully believed that love

was already on its way to you? I love that last question actually. That's probably my favorite. Every week I also share a challenge to inspire you further, that is inspired by our mantra, just to ensure that we can take everything that we discuss and really turn it into real actionable steps. I'd love to hear how it's going for you so you can reach out to me at mantra open mind to share your thoughts, progress, feelings, whatever else it is. And each month I'll be responding to your questions and comments, not just about the challenge, but literally anything that's on your mind, anything you need advice on in

our special bonus episode available exclusively on Open Mind Plus. Okay, this week is the self-love mirror challenge. Each morning, I want you to look at yourself in the mirror and say out loud, I know that love won't pass me. I know that I am worthy of love every day this week. I want you to notice how it feels each day. Let me estimate, hypothesize that the first few times it's going to feel a little bit awkward

and then I think it becomes quite empowering, maybe even emotional. Maybe it's like a combination of all three of those things. Regardless, I really want you to just take note or write down what comes up for you, just feel it deeply and just think, why is it so strange for me to hear that I am deserving of love? When was the last time someone else said that to me? I think it's really important and an important way to rewire your attitude towards your self-worth and what you deserve. And as a reminder, reach out to me at Mantra Open Mind on Instagram to just share how this challenge

is working out for you. Alrighty, as we wrap up this week's episode, I want to share a few final thoughts about this mantra. I know that love won't pass me. I think when we are dealing with this scarcity fear mindset towards love it feels like we constantly need to work to be chosen and in order to be chosen we have to be something or someone that we are not. Listen I'm not gonna lie that might get you a partner, that might get you a boyfriend or a girlfriend or a

connection. It's not going to make that connection last, though, because at some point, your authentic self is going to come out. We would hope that that person is going to love them just as much as they love the version of you you were trying to be. But there's no way of knowing. And there's no way of knowing that if you had just been more open about who you were and authentic and real and willing to say, love this version of me or you don't get any version

of me, whether you would have found someone better, whether you would have found someone who was like, you are exactly what I'm looking for. And I truly believe that all of us have a number of big love stories ready for us in this life. You just need to be prepared to wait for them and to allow them to have their moment. Trust that the right people, the right moments, and the right kind of love, it will never miss you.

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