Mantra with Jemma Sbeg - The Case Files History Left Unsolved | Hidden History with Dr. Harini Bhat

Episode Date: May 12, 2026

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Starting point is 00:00:00 What if everything you learned in history class was only half the story? I'm Dr. Harini-Bot. I started as a clinical pharmacist, and somewhere along the way, I became obsessed with the mysteries that history never fully solved. That's exactly why I created Hidden History, a rewind original podcast. Every Monday, I go where history touches the unknown. Vanished civilizations, doomsday prophecies, paranormal phenomena, and events. that science still can't fully explain. I'll give you historical context, I'll break down the science, I'll even interrogate the supernatural. I treat these moments like open case files, not miss, not superstition. Just incomplete explanations waiting for a closer look. And I'll ask the question, what if this happened today? I have an episode for you here to listen to
Starting point is 00:00:52 now. If you love it, make sure to follow Hidden History on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you listen. We'll also put a link to the show in this episode description. New episodes drop every Monday. This is Rewind. Did you know that in 1518, a European city was hit by a deadly epidemic? And the epidemic was dancing. To this day, experts still don't know why it happened, but there are plenty of theories. And today, we'll unpack them all.
Starting point is 00:01:31 History is so much more than a collection of stories from the past. is full of intrigue, scandal, and mystery. And on this show, we're getting into all the questions that have yet to be answered. I'm Dr. Harini-Bot, and this is Hidden History, a rewind original powered by Pave Studios. As a doctorate pharmacy, I am intensely curious about how the world works, whether it's through science, culture, or history. I've learned that everything is connected. If you can't find the answer, that just means you need to dig a little. deeper. On this show, we're exploring real events from history that have yet to be fully explained
Starting point is 00:02:10 in examining all the different theories from science to the supernatural and everything in between. From vanished civilizations and doomsday prophecies to paranormal experiences, an unexplained phenomena. I'm looking at it all and I want you to join me. Today I'm talking about one of the most terrifying outbreaks in history. It's not the Black Death, it's not the Spanish flu. I'm talking about the dancing plague of 1518 when hundreds of people in the city of Strasbourg on the border of France and Germany started dancing. And the only thing that could make them stop was death. Multiple theories about what caused the dancing plague have been proposed over the years.
Starting point is 00:02:53 But I still have a lot of questions, which is why this story is worth a closer look. Hey y'all, it's Kelly Clarkson with Wayfair. ever order furniture online and wonder what if? Like, what if it doesn't hold up? That sofa was four days old. You should have ordered from Wayfair. With Wayfair, there's no what if. Just style you love and quality you can trust.
Starting point is 00:03:17 Visit Wayfair.ca. Wayfair, every style, every home. On July 14th, 1518, the sun rose above Straussburg. The city was a hub of economic, cultural, and religious activity whose cathedral is one of the tallest buildings in the world. And on that summer day, a woman named Fraud Trafea, stepped out of her home onto the narrow street and started to dance. At first it was more like a shuffle, but as the minutes ticked by,
Starting point is 00:03:47 Frow Trafeia started moving faster and faster. Her husband tried to get her to stop to go back inside and calm down, but Frouette just kept dancing until she was so exhausted, she collapsed. Her husband brought her inside, made sure she got some rest, and probably figured that was the end of it. But the next morning, she went right to be. back at it dancing nonstop until the sun went down. Before long, she was surrounded by curious onlookers who wondered what on earth was going on here. And their first theory was that this
Starting point is 00:04:20 was an act of revenge. If I was there at that time thinking with a modern lens, honestly, the first thought I would have is that this person is going through epilepsy or they're having some kind of seizure. But doing it for so many hours on end is where it starts to look a little bit different, and that's why we need to dig a little bit deeper. We don't know much about Frout Trafeia other than she was married. We don't even know her first name. Frow is basically the German equivalent of Mrs. But supposedly, she and her husband had gone into some sort of argument right before she
Starting point is 00:04:53 started dancing, and he hated dancing. So people wondered if this was just a way to get back at him. But by the end of that second day, Froufia hadn't stopped. Honestly, would anyone go with that? this far just to annoy their husband? Maybe I would. On the dawn of the third day, her dancing continued, and then on the fourth and then on the fifth. By the sixth day of this, she was in rough shape. Her feet were bloody, she was dehydrated, and she had barely eaten. If she went on like this for much longer, she might not survive. It became obvious that Frouad Trafia wasn't in control of her actions,
Starting point is 00:05:32 and some people wondered if she was possessed by a demon. At the time, women were believed to have weaker morals than men, which supposedly made them more susceptible to sin, and therefore easy targets for possession. So was she up to some shady stuff and a demon was making her pay the price? I think it's safe to say the answer is no. And most of the people in Straussberg didn't think so either, although they still thought there was a spiritual explanation for it. But instead of looking to hell, they look to heaven. They believe she had been cursed by Saint Vetus. the patron saint of actors, dancers, and people with the falling sickness, or as we would call it today, epilepsy. People could pray to St. Vetus to help them with their afflictions or unleash it
Starting point is 00:06:20 on their enemies. It was common enough that this unstoppable frenzy was referred to as St. Fetus's dance. And honestly, if you think about it, it does make sense for the time to immediately jump to something spiritual or something even demonic like possession, because that was their science. at the time. That is how they viewed the lens. It was through this religious perspective, especially in that area. So you can't fault them for that. Fraud Trafea wasn't the first person to be afflicted with a dancing plague. There had been reports of similar cases in that very region going back hundreds of years. After six days of constant dancing, it was looking like frau Trophia was this plague's latest victim.
Starting point is 00:07:02 So around July 20th, 1518, her jerking body was strapped into a wadowing. and she was taken to prey at the shrine of St. Vetus, nestled in the mountains about 30 miles west of Strasbourg. The reports don't say what happened to her after that, though some historians believe that it was a case of no news is good news, since it's more likely that it would have been recorded if she had died. But this was far from the end of the story. Soon enough, the city of Strasbourg would be consumed in a living nightmare, because just as Frat Trafia's dancing frenzy was ending, it was beginning for hundreds of others. By July 21st, 1518, so just a week after Frautrophia started her dance,
Starting point is 00:07:47 up to 34 people throughout Straussburg had been afflicted with the same uncontrollable dancing plague. Initially, they were just curious onlookers, but inevitably, they'd lost control of themselves, too. As the days went by, more and more people fell victim to St. Vetus's curse. By July 25th, the number had risen to around 50 people. With so many affected, it wouldn't be practical to transfer everyone to the shrine. So the city council decided to do something unexpected. Look for a medical explanation. At this point in time, doctors mainly relied on the wisdom of ancient Greek and Roman thinkers for guidance.
Starting point is 00:08:27 And the city's physicians believed that the dancing plague was being caused by overheated blood, a concept from the ancient Greek medical philosopher Galen. So during this time, most of medicine really surrounded something called the four humors. You probably have heard it before. And the four humors was first established by the ancient Greek philosopher, Hippocrates, and then later refined by actually this guy, Galen. And it all surrounded what it was called, like I said, the four humors. So those are yellow bile, black bile, blood and phlegm.
Starting point is 00:09:00 And the whole idea is that if you're sick, or you're feeling ill, is because one of those four humors is out of balance. So the whole idea of overheated blood comes from that four humors concept. Is it reliable medicine in today's lens? No. But it is a good thought process, so let's see where it goes. The theory was that blood was connected to happiness and the love of song and dance. The more people had, the more they enjoyed these things. But if there was a blockage somewhere, blood could pool in the body.
Starting point is 00:09:32 When that happened, it could overheat the brain and cause erratic behavior like uncontrollable dancing. Here's what I think is especially interesting, though. If they were completely following Galen's teachings, the doctors would have prescribed bleeding and a cooling diet that could have reduced the blood's temperature. But instead, their solution was more dancing. In this case, it seems like they were relying more on traditional wisdom. The idea was that they needed to be able to let the disease burn out on its own. That's apparently how previous dancing plagues had come to an end as well, including one a century earlier in nearby Zurich, Switzerland.
Starting point is 00:10:13 Honestly, it sounds like such a bonkers plan to ask them to continue to dance when that is what is afflicting them. However, if you want to look at it through a modern lens, it's kind of akin, this is not a perfect analogy, but it's kind of akin to when you have a fever, sometimes you do want to let your fever run its course because that is actually what's going to make you better by killing off all the bacteria.
Starting point is 00:10:36 So I can kind of see how maybe that was the line of thinking that they had. Obviously, this was before germ theory, but maybe that's what they were thinking. Like just get it all out of your system. But did it work? We'll find out. So the city's officials ordered for a bunch of space to be cleared out for the dancers to do their thing. To help the plague burn out sooner,
Starting point is 00:10:55 they hired dozens of musicians to play lively songs on tambourines, drums, fiddles, horns, and pipes so the party could go on 24-7. City officials even paid people to pick up the dancers anytime they fell over from exhaustion. This plan, as one might imagine, did not work. By August, just a few weeks after Frouad Trafeia started dancing, the number of dancers had swelled to almost 400 people. For reference, Straussberg's population was only 20,000 people.
Starting point is 00:11:27 If the outbreak didn't stop soon, it wouldn't be long before the entire city was afflicted. Not only that, but people were starting to die from their bodies giving out. Now sources differ on what the actual death toll was, although some chronicles say it was as many as 15 people passing away a day. But no matter what, the city council knew they had to try something else before it was too late. On August 3rd, they decided to completely ban music and dancing. They took down the public stages and anyone seen dancing outside in the next two months would be fined.
Starting point is 00:12:03 Basically, anyone still afflicted by the dancing plague was quarantined. It was being treated like a contagious disease that spread by sight. But after a week of this, things hadn't gotten any better. The attempt to treat it medically had failed, which made the authorities think maybe it was a spiritual problem after all. Clearly, St. Vetus wasn't happy with the people of Straussburg, so the city council decided to do everything in its power to appease him. They sent an entire team to build a brand new chapel at the shrine in the mountains and instructed the city gills to take all the dancers there. Again, this was not easy.
Starting point is 00:12:42 The shrine was 30 miles away over rough roads that went through the woods and up into the foothills of the Vosges Mountains. They only had one shot at this. If it didn't work, who knows what would happen. So the city council pulled out all the stops. Along with the brand new chapel, they commissioned a 110 pound wax carving of St. Vetus that would be taken to the shrine. And before the dancers were taken there in late August, the entire city would hold a high mask in St. Vetus's honor.
Starting point is 00:13:15 But as the day approached, there was a problem. By August 20th, the new chapel wasn't quite ready yet. and it wouldn't look good to send the wax carving to a shrine that wasn't sanctified. The city council debated whether they should do it anyway or just place it at the altar of the Strasbourg Cathedral. In the end, they went with a third option. They decided to have the carving melted into a massive candle and sent to the shrine, which would hopefully be less offensive. It was a huge risk, but they couldn't bring the dancers there empty-handed.
Starting point is 00:13:46 So after the high mass, the candle was strapped into a wagon and the convoy set off. After at least a day of exhausting travel, the ragtag group arrived in the town of Severn, where the shrine was located. But the journey wasn't over yet. The shrine was just beneath the summit of Vietzburg, meaning Vietus Mountain, and it could only be accessed on foot. The dancers and the 100-pound candle were unloaded from the wagons, their bodies still jerking in frenzied movement. They had to be literally dragged up the steep path to the shrine. hundreds of feet above them. Once they were all carried to the top and assembled before the altar,
Starting point is 00:14:26 they were given small crosses and pairs of red shoes. Now, there is some debate over why the shoes had to be red. Some sources say the victims of dancing plagues couldn't stand the sight of that color. It's also possible that it was meant to mirror depictions of St. Vetus who wore red and who was martyred in a cauldron heated by red hot flames. Either way, it shows how seriously the plague was being taken. Dye back then wasn't cheap, especially not red dye. So if possibly hundreds of red shoes were being given out for the ceremony,
Starting point is 00:15:02 it shows that the city council was willing to shell out some serious money to make the problem go away. Once the shoes were given out, they were sprinkled with holy water and marked with a sign of the cross. It makes sense, if you think about it. This was a dancing plague. and what better way to heal their affliction than by blessing their feet. After that, the dancers were led in a circle around the altar, which was intended to purify their souls and mimic the movements of the planets and sun through the cosmos.
Starting point is 00:15:32 Once that was done, everyone had to donate a penny to the poor, and if they couldn't afford it, the person who brought them there had to give it. And with that, the ceremony was over. The dancers were carried back down the mountain, loaded up in their wagons, and taken back to Straussburg. The only thing left to do now was wait. Soccer fans, your chance to witness history is here. You can win tickets to the FIFA World Cup 2026 final thanks to Visa.
Starting point is 00:16:05 All it takes is a BMO Visa credit card to enter. Sign up and enter at bemo.com slash contest. Contest rules apply. After the ceremony at the Shrine of St. Vedas, the entire city of Straussburg waited on pins and needles to see if it had worked. They had reason to be hopeful. About 150 years earlier in 1374, another dancing plague in Germany had been cured by priests who had performed exorcism rituals and their records of religious intervention working in other cases too. If they were hoping to prove their devotion to St. Vetus,
Starting point is 00:16:42 they had definitely checked that box, but would it be enough to please him? It seems like the answer was yes, because after the ritual, the dancing plague grew. gradually faded away. The survivors came to their senses, regained control of their bodies, and went on with their lives. To this day, we don't know exactly how many people died from the dancing plague. As I mentioned, some records say as many as 15 were dying every day, but it doesn't say how long that went on or the total number of fatalities. But either way, it left a profound impression on the people who experienced it. In the years to come, people around the region made sure to keep St. Vetus happy with offerings and donations. In turn,
Starting point is 00:17:29 Strausberg prospered. There were several good harvest in a row and the dancing plague never returned. Not just in Strausburg, but across the entire region. In the span of just a few generations, it went from a very real fear to little more than a legend. But the dancing plague of 1518 was no folktale. It was very, very real with accounts from the time, describing the horror the people of Straussberg endured that strange summer. Throughout the years, scientists, historians, and all kinds of researchers have tried to understand what started it. And more importantly, why it came to an end. So let's dig into it, starting with an explanation based in science and one little fungus that could have been responsible for all the chaos.
Starting point is 00:18:19 And this is a classic story. I think anyone who's very curious or even remotely into morbid medical history will know about the dancing plague of 1518. So whenever I have read about this, the one thing that always felt weird to me is how it happened in the same place. Centuries apart. How does that even happen? Those kinds of coincidences are very rare. And that for me is what makes the story the most compelling for me, personally. One of the main theories behind the dancing plague of 1518 and the others before it is something called Ergit poisoning.
Starting point is 00:18:55 So what is that exactly? Ergit is a fungus that grows on rye when it gets damp. If that rye then gets harvested and turned into bread, people can get poisoned by it. In fact, LSD is derived from Ergut, and consuming Urgett can cause hallucinations and convulsions, which some scholars believe could explain the uncontrollable dancing. And it's entirely possible that hundreds of people in Straussburg could have accidentally suffered from or get poisoning because the key here is that it grows on damp rye plants. In the years leading up to the dancing plague of 1518, the area was experiencing severe famine brought on by poor harvest.
Starting point is 00:19:36 The lack of food sent prices skyrocketing, including bread. People were desperate, dying, and hungry. So you can imagine how someone might be okay with eating some food that seemed iffy, as long as it filled their stomachs. It's also worth noting that the dancing plague seemed to especially affect the poor. And there was historical precedent for something like this. In 1458, there was a dancing mania in Germany after a hard winter. And in 1482, there were reports of people bashing their heads into walls,
Starting point is 00:20:08 running into rivers and losing control of their bodies until they died. It's also interesting that after 1518, the area experienced a lot of good harvest and there weren't any more instances of dancing plague. Although a few hundred years later in the aftermath of World War II, there was another terrifying mass outbreak in a small French town whose symptoms have been linked to the dancing plague of 1518. And science shows that this one was very likely caused by ergot poisoning. In the summer of 1951, the town of Ponce and Esprit experienced an unusually wet summer,
Starting point is 00:20:47 leading to a poor rye harvest. However, they were forced to make do with what they had because the French government was still rationing food while they recovered from the war. So when the village baker got some flour that looked a bit off, he had no choice but to use it. Within 48 hours of selling the contaminated bread, the town was in a panic. Hundreds of people were sick with symptoms like nausea, convulsions, and hallucinations. It got so bad, one villager thought they were being eaten by tigers. Another threw himself out a window to get away from whatever he was seeing.
Starting point is 00:21:24 One man thought his stomach was full of snakes that were burning him from the inside. Ultimately, anywhere between four to seven people died before the outbreak ended. And while there is some debate about what caused it, urget poisoning is the likelyest suspect. Although, historian Stephen Kaplan wrote an entire book arguing against the Urget theory. He thinks it might have been caused by a harmful bleaching agent that Baker used to make his bread extra white. And although it might seem like Urget Poisoning could explain the dancing plague of 1518, there are some issues there as well. Because even though it can lead to convulsions, Urget Poisoning also restricts blood flow to the extremities,
Starting point is 00:22:05 which would make it very hard to dance for days on end. And that's not the only ding on Ergat causing the dancing plague, both the one in 1518 and all the ones before. They were all contained to a localized area in the Rhine and Moselle valleys around France, Germany, and Switzerland. Which might make you think, maybe they grew a crop that was susceptible to Ergut poisoning, but it's actually the opposite.
Starting point is 00:22:28 If you trace the different outbreaks, they go through different climates where farmers grew different plants, which makes most researchers think that maybe the problem wasn't. biological, but cultural. And that leads us to our next theory. So by far, ergot poisoning has been the most popular theory to explain the dancing plague. And honestly, I am a believer of it as well, to an extent. The only thing that doesn't make sense to me is that it's not exactly a thing to have shared hallucinations. You can't have so many people, hundreds of people, all experiencing the same hallucination. Plus, convulsing,
Starting point is 00:23:08 for hours and hours and hours on end is not something that you'll see with urgent poisoning as we just discussed. So it answers some questions, but not all. And we're going to get into what those other theories might be. These days, the most popular theories that the dancing plague of 1518 was actually caused by mass hysteria, meaning it existed because people believed it did. But how could that be? What could possibly make people believe that there's some affliction or curse that makes them dance until they die?
Starting point is 00:23:43 Let's start with the science behind mass hysteria. Its official name is mass psychogenic illness or MPI. It is basically a shared belief that is so powerful, it creates physical symptoms. One person in a group starts thinking they're sick, then another and another until you have an outbreak on your hands. which is what a lot of people think happened in the dancing plague of 1518. Most of the time, MPIs result in flu-like symptoms, like lightheadedness, nausea, chest pain, fatigue, and so on. Out of control dancing is not on that list.
Starting point is 00:24:17 And yet, for centuries, people in the region around Straussburg experienced dancing plays. To solve that particular issue, we have to look at how MPIs are triggered in the first place. Most of the time, it starts with something you think, make you sick, like you think you smell gas, so you start feeling sick. And soon enough, other people do too. But the thing is, it doesn't seem like there was a specific trigger like this for the dancing plague of 1518. Frautrophia just went outside that summer day and started moving.
Starting point is 00:24:48 Outbreaks of mass hysteria don't necessarily need one, though. They can be brought on by sociological factors like fear or stress. And back in 1518, there was plenty of that going around Strasbourg. As I mentioned earlier, there was a terrible harvest the year before and before other dancing plague outbreaks as well. Life was already hard enough back then, and now people were struggling with a deadly famine. Not only that, but they were dealing with the onset of a disease that was brand new to the region, syphilis. It had first arrived in the region a little over 20 years earlier in 1495 from soldiers who had been fighting in Italy. Described as bad pox, it started with intense.
Starting point is 00:25:31 hence joint pain, then turned into blisters all over the legs and genitals, before their bodies rotted away. And although doctors didn't totally understand the science behind it, they thought it had to do with sex because of how it manifested in the genitals. They thought it was a warning from God against fornication and adultery. On top of that, they were also dealing with your standard epidemics like the bubonic plague and smallpox, along with another new disease called the English sweat. So between the famine, disease, and dying, you can see why it would be stressful to live in Strasbourg during this time. To the people of the city, it felt like God was punishing them. And that was their trigger. The gas that lit the flames of mass hysteria, they believed
Starting point is 00:26:18 God was angry with them. So when Fram Trafea stepped out of her house and started dancing, hundreds of others couldn't help following suit. Personally, I think it's certainly possible that the dancing plague was caused by an MPI, although it doesn't explain all the symptoms and characteristics. Because if MPIs usually manifest with flu-like symptoms, how come this took the form of uncontrollable dancing? And why did they only seem to happen in this one specific region? Which makes me wonder, could the dancing plague have been started as an actual hallucinogenic poisoning and then turned into a mass psychogenic illness? Going back to the ergotism theory, Remember that the dancing plague was localized in a region along the Rhine and Moselle valleys linked by rivers.
Starting point is 00:27:06 The printing press was only invented around 1440, so for the most part, information was restricted to a few texts and word of mouth. And there was a long history of dancing plagues in the region. Its origins might have gone back to 1021 when 18 people started dancing outside of a German church during mass on Christmas Eve. and even when the priest told them to stop, they wouldn't listen. In return, he cursed them. To dance without stopping for an entire year. According to a local story, the dancers kept going until the following Christmas,
Starting point is 00:27:42 when they fell into a sleep that was so deep, some of them never woke up. The story built on itself from there with dancing plays becoming increasingly dangerous until it reached its deadly peak in 1518. Still not buying it, there's actually a modern parallel to something like this happening. Not with dance, but with laughter. What if everything you learned in history class was only half the story?
Starting point is 00:28:14 I'm Dr. Hrini-Bot. I started as a clinical pharmacist, and somewhere along the way, I became obsessed with the mysteries that history never fully solved. That's exactly why I created Hidden History, a Rewind Studio's original podcast powered by Pave Studios. Every Monday, I go where history touches the unknown. Vanished civilizations, doomsday prophecies, paranormal phenomena, and events that science still can't fully explain. I'll give you historical context. I'll break down the science.
Starting point is 00:28:45 I'll even interrogate the supernatural. I treat these moments like open case files, not miss, not superstition, just incomplete explanations waiting for a closer look. And I'll ask the question, what if this happened today? Listen to and follow Hidden History, available now wherever you get your podcasts. Let's go to 1962 and what's now the African country of Tanzania. One day, a group of girls at a boarding school started hysterically laughing and couldn't stop. The laughter kept spreading until it affected 95 out of the school's 159 students.
Starting point is 00:29:27 And when they were sent home to their villages, some of the adults there started laughing too. For some of them, it went on for an entire. week, although thankfully nobody died. Investigators couldn't find any biological reason for the laughing epidemic, but like the dancing plague, there were sociological factors at play, specifically around the country's newfound independence. It would be especially stressful for kids in a volatile situation, and in this case, their bodies responded with debilitating laughter. So you can see these kinds of stories aren't just restricted to dusty medieval texts. These kinds of phenomenon are very real and are happening today in places all around the world.
Starting point is 00:30:10 There's something really interesting about this story, and we know this even from day to day. Laughter is contagious. And it might make you think about something else that is contagious and that's yawning. If you've ever noticed when someone yawns, you may tend to yawn to. And science says that's actually a form or a sign of empathy. You're empathizing with that other human being and then you yawn too. And there's actually a fun tidbit and take it how you will that serial killers don't yawn when other people yawn.
Starting point is 00:30:42 And that is a sign that they lack empathy. So next time you're with your partner or with your friend, just yawn and see if they yawn back. And then you'll know you're in good company. No serial killers are on the loose. So when I was first thinking about this laughing epidemic in Tanzania, honestly, the first modern peril that came to my mind was Havana syndrome. So many people probably listening to this have heard about it.
Starting point is 00:31:05 Just to summarize, it was essentially happening to all these U.S. diplomats around the world where they're experiencing this very intense high-pitched sound that was causing them to have severe migraines and nausea and all of these different various physical symptoms that was extremely debilitating. I think there's still an active ongoing investigation from the FBI and other forms of institutions in our government to see if this was actually a medical condition or MPI. So maybe we'll do another episode on that later if you're interested.
Starting point is 00:31:35 But before we close the book completely on this one, I want to circle back to the beginning, to the first possibility we mentioned, that the dancing plague of 1518 was caused by demonic possession. Because even though it was written off at the time, there are other stories of deadly dancing outbreaks where the devil was to blame. This particular story I'm about to tell you
Starting point is 00:31:55 is my favorite in this entire episode. This final story comes from the Swedish folktale of Hurgelaten, which roughly translates to the Hare's tune or the devil's fiddle. The oldest version of the story comes from 1785 and the village of Hurgah. As the legend goes, one Saturday evening in the summer, a group of people gather for a party in a barn. They eat, they drink, and of course, they dance. But as midnight approaches, it's time to go home. Church rule says there's no dancing on Sundays.
Starting point is 00:32:28 Most of the partygoers start heading home as the musician. pack up their instruments. However, some of the people aren't ready to call it a night just yet. They want to keep the party going. And as the clock strikes midnight, a stranger appears with a fiddle. The remaining guests are excited to keep dancing, so they don't question it and happily take him up on his offer. But they should have been more careful. Because if they looked at him a little closer, they would have noticed that the mysterious musician had hooves instead of feet. unbeknownst to them, they had just made a literal deal with the devil. And just as you'd expect, he could play the fiddle like nobody's business.
Starting point is 00:33:10 As he played his tunes, the music had the partygoers in a trance. Their feet moved on their own. They were exhausted, desperate to stop, but they couldn't. Finally, after hours of this, the church bells rang a Sunday morning. The barn doors swung open, but the curse didn't end. Instead, the devil led the people to the top of a mountain where they danced in a circle around a tree until the only thing left of them was their heads, rolling around on the ground in time to the music. Morbid.
Starting point is 00:33:45 Sounds like the folktale version of a dancing plague, doesn't it? But instead of divine retribution, this was the work of the devil. Although in both cases, it was a warning against what was perceived as degenerate behavior. be on your best behavior, or you'll be consumed by your vices. Now, it doesn't seem like the Swedish legend is based on any actual dancing plague. It's really more of a cautionary tale than the retelling of a historical event that was warped out of proportion. But is it possible that the stories of the dancing plagues in the region around Straussburg made it all the way to Sweden? I'm certainly not ruling that out.
Starting point is 00:34:24 And even though a supernatural explanation for these cases might seem less believe, to us now than they would back then, it's important to remember the cultural context, when religion was science to a large degree. This was their way of explaining the impossible of diagnosing a problem in trying to find a solution. At the end of the day, that's what makes these stories so relatable to me.
Starting point is 00:34:49 Confronting the unknown is terrifying, no matter what century you live in. Whether it's a dancing plague, a laughing epidemic, or response to a gas leak that never, existed, it shows how important community is in times of need. That when we don't know what to do, we look to our friends and neighbors for answers. But sometimes we don't get them. And when that happens, our minds and bodies can react in ways that we never expected. So let's take a look at the theory as we explore today. Does it feel like we found the answer? Or is there something
Starting point is 00:35:23 out there that could still explain it? Something that we would never expect. In this case, I'm going to say that the consensus explanation that the dancing plague of 1518 was caused by mass hysteria is also the scariest. You can avoid eating contaminated food. You can even adjust your behavior to avoid a curse. But when it comes to mass psychogenic illness, there's not much you can do to protect yourself. Your mind and body weaponize your own belief against you, blurring the line between fiction and reality until a precede threat is made very real. And once it has you in its grip, there is no letting go. Before we get out of here, I want to introduce you guys to a segment we'll be doing at the end of each episode called If It Happened Today.
Starting point is 00:36:14 As the name suggests, I'll be looking at the event in question and asking, what would it be like if it happened right now? So let's imagine that on a summer day in 2026, a young one, woman steps out of her downtown apartment and just starts dancing. Your first thought would probably be, this girl's on something and you wouldn't be alone. It's actually been pointed out that the dancing plague has a lot of similarities to modern rave culture. The dancing plague has even been called the world's longest rave. And think about it. People at raves go long stretches without food, water, or rest while they dance. Their movements aren't graceful or courteous. Of course, there are plenty of ravers out there who aren't on drugs.
Starting point is 00:36:58 And soon enough, people would realize this girl in the street isn't on them either. So maybe you'd think as more people join in, is this a flash mob, some sort of protest? Maybe an event put on by an online streamer. I'm sure it would come off as all fun in games with bystanders live streaming to TikTok and every social media app until the dancers start collapsing. Doctors would take some of the dancers in for testing just to find that nothing is physically wrong with them. And all of a sudden, it would be all over the internet. Endless Reddit theories, blog posts, and speculation.
Starting point is 00:37:33 Maybe some fringe religious groups would take it as a sign that the apocalypse is here. One thing's for sure, there would be plenty of opinions on it. But eventually, with what we know about mass psychogenic illness now, someone would realize the truth. The question is, would anyone believe them? If we're actually thinking about it with a modern lens, like if that happened today, I think the best analogy is Havana syndrome. If the dancing plague happened in 26, I'm pretty sure scientists would label it as mass
Starting point is 00:38:03 psychogenic illness. In other words, mass hysteria. In our current landscape, it's easy to go online and find a viewpoint that supports your thinking. It can be a good way to seek out a community of like-minded people or fall into a dangerous echo chamber. Back in 1518, the ceremony at the shrine of St. Vetus helped the dancers feel like something was helping them, that they had found the solution to their curse. They united around a common cause and found a way through. But could that happen today in 26? You tell me, would we be
Starting point is 00:38:37 able to harness the fear that started our dancing plague and worked together to end it? Or maybe we succumb to it one by one until the whole world is one. big, deadly party. Thanks so much for joining me for this episode of Hidden History. I'm Dr. Hrini-Bot. Join me next time as we explore another unbelievable story from the past. What did you think of the dancing plague of 1518? Any burning theories of your own?
Starting point is 00:39:09 Let me know in the comments and I might talk about it in a future episode. And be sure to subscribe on YouTube or rate, review, and follow if you're listening on audio so we can keep building this community together. I'll see you next week for another episode. of Hidden History. Thanks for listening to Hidden History. Follow Hidden History on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Amazon Music, or wherever you listen. New episodes drop every Monday.
Starting point is 00:39:37 I'm Dr. Kroeniebott, host of Hidden History. Every Monday, I go where history gets uncomfortable. Vandered civilizations, doomsday prophecies, and events that science still can't fully explain. Listen to and follow Hidden History, available now wherever you get your podcasts.

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