Mark Bell's Power Project - Age Related Injuries Are A Myth || MBPP Ep. 979

Episode Date: September 5, 2023

In Episode 979 Mark Bell, Nsima Inyang, and Andrew Zaragoza talk about what truly caused Kevin Hart's recent injury he got from sprinting and how you can easily avoid an injury while still sprinting a...nd staying active.   Official Power Project Website: https://powerproject.live Join The Power Project Discord: https://discord.gg/yYzthQX5qN Subscribe to the Power Project Clips Channel: https://youtube.com/channel/UC5Df31rlDXm0EJAcKsq1SUw   Special perks for our listeners below! ➢ https://Peluva.com/PowerProject Code POWERPROJECT15 to save 15% off Peluva Shoes!   ➢https://drinkag1.com/powerproject Receive a year supply of Vitamin D3+K2 & 5 Travel Packs!   ➢ https://withinyoubrand.com/ Code POWERPROJECT to save 15% off supplements!   ➢ https://markbellslingshot.com/ Code POWERPROJECT to save 15% off all gear and apparel!   ➢ https://mindbullet.com/ Code POWERPROJECT to save 15% off Mind Bullet!   ➢ https://goodlifeproteins.com/ Code POWERPROJECT to save up to 25% off your Build a Box   ➢ Better Fed Beef: https://betterfedbeef.com/pages/powerproject   ➢ https://hostagetape.com/powerproject to receive a year supply of Hostage Tape and Nose Strips for less than $1 a night!   ➢ https://thecoldplunge.com/ Code POWERPROJECT to save $150!!   ➢ Enlarging Pumps (This really works): https://bit.ly/powerproject1 Pumps explained: https://youtu.be/qPG9JXjlhpM   ➢ https://www.vivobarefoot.com/us/powerproject to save 15% off Vivo Barefoot shoes!   ➢ https://vuoriclothing.com/powerproject to automatically save 20% off your first order at Vuori!   ➢ https://www.eightsleep.com/powerproject to automatically save $150 off the Pod Pro at 8 Sleep!   ➢ https://marekhealth.com/PowerProject to receive 10% off our Panel, Check Up Panel or any custom panel!   ➢ Piedmontese Beef: https://www.CPBeef.com/ Use Code POWER at checkout for 25% off your order plus FREE 2-Day Shipping on orders of $150   Follow Mark Bell's Power Project Podcast ➢ https://www.PowerProject.live ➢ https://lnk.to/PowerProjectPodcast ➢ Insta: https://www.instagram.com/markbellspowerproject ➢ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/markbellspowerproject   FOLLOW Mark Bell ➢ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/marksmellybell ➢https://www.tiktok.com/@marksmellybell ➢ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/MarkBellSuperTraining ➢ Twitter: https://twitter.com/marksmellybell   Follow Nsima Inyang ➢ https://www.breakthebar.com/learn-more ➢YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/NsimaInyang ➢Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/nsimainyang/?hl=en ➢TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@nsimayinyang?lang=en   Follow Andrew Zaragoza on all platforms ➢ https://direct.me/iamandrewz   #PowerProject #Podcast #MarkBell #FitnessPodcast #markbellspowerproject

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I mean everybody loves Kevin Hart. He's amazing. Unfortunately, he got hurt. I personally don't think it has anything to do with age. Some things are going to degrade. Some things are going to slow down a little bit, but I think we could push these things off quite a bit and there's certainly no reason why you can't sprint. I would say also too, in Kevin Hart's defense, he did a great job. He runs. He runs a lot, but when you're sprinting and you're putting all that force through your body, if you don't do that often he's trying to win shit you're in your late 40s now you find when you get up you just got to warm up a little more than you maybe used to for me personally has to do with my training i also want to point out like anyone can get hurt
Starting point is 00:00:34 doing just about anything there's so many people who are probably like listening that have felt themselves getting younger too just by doing more shit right i mean if we felt it but i know that there's so many people who felt the same thing. It's like, you probably feel better now than you did a few years ago. What, heal yourself, that book? Yeah. Do you remember, okay,
Starting point is 00:00:50 so you remember you asked me a few days ago, do you have any pain anywhere? I'm like, nope. The next day, something happened to my back, right? And then I just chose not to roll for the past few days. I'm like, okay, this motherfucker needs to heal because I need to compete next week. But as I started just like rolling out quads, doing a bunch of stuff in the sides, it's funny.
Starting point is 00:01:08 I was here yesterday doing a bunch of stuff. It's funny how the pain just traveled to different areas like it's happened. And now I feel like a lot better. But that myofascial release just continues to make a big difference. What kind of back thingy was it? I don't know what happened. Was it one of those ones where it's like weird to breathe or was it like different lower back i can it's lower back i can breathe i can move through it or whatever but like there's like a segment where it's just like oh there's something right
Starting point is 00:01:33 there and i'm like with everything i'm just trying not to uh not to limit the movement i do but i'm trying to be smart with it and that's why i haven't rolled in a few days because of it but um it's getting better pretty fast. I know why you're got some injuries. Everything you do is wrong. I looked at your comments on your Instagram and you're just throwing those kettlebells around for views. And when you're chasing after views and things like that,
Starting point is 00:01:59 you get yourself injured, you get yourself hurt. That's what happens. That is what happens now. But like, yeah, it just, are we just, are we recording right now? Oh, shit. Wait, when did you start?
Starting point is 00:02:10 I thought we were just talking. I started like half an hour ago. I thought we were just talking. All that shit you guys were talking is all published. See? Yeah. I knew it. Okay.
Starting point is 00:02:20 What were some things you did to help get some tension out of there? Yeah. So I used, I had some of those, what are those balls? Yoga balls? Yeah, no. Tune-up? The tune-up fitness balls. Use those on my back.
Starting point is 00:02:32 Yoga tune-up. But the thing is, what's interesting is I get in a lot on my hamstrings, glutes, which did help. But one area that I just don't really fuck with much was my quads, my hip flexors, my quads, my that, like my teardrop, et cetera. And when I was when I got on those areas, I'm like, fuck, you know, nowhere on my body feels as tense and as like painful when I roll out than this area. I can roll my hamstrings everywhere. Nothing. But I just don't roll my quads often. And once I roll my quads, my hip flexors, it's like, oh, shit.
Starting point is 00:03:03 Wow. That really has to do with your sport. Like you're crouched forward a bit. Right. I mean, yeah. quads often then once i rolled my quads my hip flexors it's like oh shit wow that really helped that has to do with your sport like you're crouched forward a bit right i mean yeah there's i mean you're doing a lot of stuff in your training you're doing lunges and you're doing all kinds of stuff to open up those areas but um maybe something about jujitsu makes those areas a little tighter hip flexors maybe quads or something i can understand like the thing is personally like those areas i don't think are tight necessarily on me well actually they probably are since when i was doing my fast release like they were they were more painful than other areas but the thing
Starting point is 00:03:35 is too it's like when i do my fast release i don't really touch those areas almost ever and that's that showed itself to be kind of a problem. So now I'm going to be hitting those as much as I hit my back, my hamstrings, et cetera. It should help quite a bit. But doing some of that myofascial release immediately when I got up, walked around, moved around, I was like, oh, shit, I'm going to be able to roll in like a day or two. Nice. So it helps immediately. Yeah, getting some of that bullshit out of there. You know, I think like maybe one of the
Starting point is 00:04:06 goals with my fast release is for it not to hurt anywhere. Right. You know what I mean? Like for everywhere to feel pretty decent when you're rolling on top of it. And maybe if you're rolling on top of something and it's like tight or you're grimacing, maybe that's a sign where this is an area you need to work. At least that's what I look at
Starting point is 00:04:22 for myself. I think something you said is important is that you took a couple days off because that is really hard. A lot of people don't want to do that. And that's like I got something in my like butt slash hamstring thing going on with some running. Yeah. Especially because I've been running a little faster. I've been picking up the pace on some stuff. And so it just makes me more sore.
Starting point is 00:04:41 So I'm like I have soreness uh almost like i'm lifting you know because now the demands are different i'm producing more force and uh like calves and feet um shins glutes like all that stuff starting like i can i can feel it when i wake up in the morning i'm like oh like it has uh it has like some weight on me you know and it makes sense because it's new i haven't done that in so long and uh i went out and ran with a barefoot sprinter the other day and we did some stuff on the field and been messing around with that david weck vest i don't know what that thing quite does yet but it's 12 extra pounds and uh moving quicker and working on some jumps and things like that and And so things get sore.
Starting point is 00:05:27 And the hamstring-glute thing has been kind of flaring up on and off for the last three weeks. I probably need to do what you said. I probably need to try to get a couple days off. Yeah. It's hard to think because you feel like you could probably just take your runs a little bit lighter. I wanted to just take jiu-Jitsu a little bit lighter, but I was just thinking, that's not going to be a good idea.
Starting point is 00:05:52 You could just go a little bit too hard and then compete next week. It's not a good idea. Right. Have you tried the hanging belt strap thingy that David Weck's been showing? Yeah, I don't necessarily need that type of decompression there. So not even for the decompression aspect of it, but just literally the 45-degree back raise that you can do with it. I don't know what it is about that, so I'll do 20 full-range back raises.
Starting point is 00:06:22 You've been doing it every day, Andrew. Yeah, and i feel so good right now but like i'll do 20 full range back back raises and then i'll do 20 like partials right in the middle where your back is like more parallel with the ground so there's way more tension on it i'll do 20 right there and do my back like the pump is it's so good and then today i did that two times in a row and I felt really, really good. But then the stuff you were showing me about like turning my toes in and like kind of trying to get a burn on your hips, that actually kind of made my back flare up a little bit more. And I'm like, whoa, like that's interesting.
Starting point is 00:06:56 So it's something to note down in the journal with my back. But I was just curious because I know you like the movement aspect of like kind of moving things around to get the like alleviate the pain. So I'm just wondering if you were doing that. But if not, I'm giving it a shot because it's like a super duper easy, low impact way to get so much blood flow to the back that like it's low risk, super high reward. I think you can pull up some of that on David Wex's page so people can know what you're talking about. It also feels good to lean back on it too, like to face the other way. Just have something hold you. And lean back because I think like a lot of people are limited with being able to like lean back like you're in the Matrix.
Starting point is 00:07:37 That's kind of a tough position for a lot of people. But then you have like that support there. But that's probably a movement I need to do a little bit more often because I think it will help me get into that uh into the hammies and into the butt cheeks a little bit more yeah so he's doing a i mean a pretty heavy kettlebell pretty different modification on it like this in my opinion i mean whatever it's for strength right it's really well but like for what i'm talking about no weight weight is even necessary. And then what I've been doing lately is because we have like those posts next to the cable machine is I'll grab a battle rope and I'll put that on the floor and I'll pull myself with it. So I create like this huge, awesome decompression of the spine, like to the point where it's probably too much. Like,
Starting point is 00:08:20 you know, if I go another like, uh, grip away, like I might like pop my shit but it's it feels crazy it feels really really good sick yeah I think you know movements like that I think are awesome because they just allow you to get in slightly different positions I know you've been messing around with the mobility stick lately those orange sticks and those allow you to get in positions that otherwise it's really tough to get into. Or even in this case, I think you're using a broomstick, right? Yeah. Yeah. Something to like
Starting point is 00:08:52 leverage, like a leverage point. Something to kind of leverage off of. Yeah. The, what is it? The stick that we have is pretty cool, like pretty cool too because you're able to kind of pivot around it, but you could use any type of stick with it. It's just a lot of these tools are pretty awesome to help with like variable movement moving to different ranges i like it david wex is watching it it's funny because uh there's somebody i think
Starting point is 00:09:16 commented in there from functional patterns and it's actually a very funny comment because david just like david went back and forth with them. It was kind of hilarious. I'll check it out later. David gets, he gets angry. He does. I want to talk about Kevin Hart, you know, because I know that he, I mean, everybody loves Kevin Hart. He's amazing. Unfortunately, he got hurt really bad. He's so amazing, he wouldn't have gotten hurt, right?
Starting point is 00:09:37 I know. You know, he went out and kind of took on a challenge from a friend friend that looked like, and they just went and sprinted out of nowhere. And then some of his commentary later on, you know, he talked about, um, you know, why he got hurt and stuff like that. And he mentioned being 40. He's like being over 40 is very real. lot more after we play the clip, but I personally don't think it has anything to do with age because there's a lot of people doing a lot of things at really high levels that are older than 40. There are people that are 50, people that are 60. Brad Kern, who we had in the podcast, you know, he participates in like high jump. I mean, there's all kinds of people doing all kinds of things at different ages. Sean Baker, Stan Efferding, like these guys aren't young.
Starting point is 00:10:25 The reason why they are not getting hurt doing some of the things that they're doing and they're still miraculous is because they're used to those things. So if you go out and do something you're not used to, you know, Stan Efferding in his 50s went out and played basketball. He could very easily hurt himself if he hasn't played basketball in a long time. And then he might say, oh, man, I'm not the way I was when I was a kid. When I was a kid, I can go and do anything. But why as a kid, could you go and do anything? Because as a kid, as you know, Andrew, with your son, you can't keep that kid still. You know, if he, if he's awake, he's moving, he's running around.
Starting point is 00:10:59 He's, he's always jumping, right? He's always, he's always like training. He looks like he's training all the time, right? He's like laying on the ground and he's standing up and then he's on the couch. He's upside down, right? He's always like training. He looks like he's training all the time, right? He's like laying on the ground. Then he's standing up. Then he's on the couch. He's upside down on the couch. You're like, what the?
Starting point is 00:11:10 So for your son to go out and like run full blast or full speed, even as he becomes six and seven and eight years old, it's not a problem. And then the other side of that too is when you're really young, you just don't produce that much force. So it's a lot harder to hurt yourself. Yeah. If there's a thing, he will try to jump over it or jump down from it or now jump onto it. And then something else to just, like, emphasize what you're saying about it and having nothing to do with Kevin Hart's age is that there's people younger than him that do the exact same thing. You know, they'll go, like, whatever, play basketball, and it's like oh shit i fuck i broke something pickleball exactly and these are people that are younger so you know if it's an age thing how can we see it on both sides of it and obviously age does play into it to some degree like you have like you know uh some things are going to degrade some things are going
Starting point is 00:12:01 to slow down a little bit but i think we could push these things off quite a bit and there's certainly no reason why you can't sprint uh from the time you're one until the time you're till you're the day you die let's check it out let's check out the actual sprint it's like some fast and furious shit they're out in the street i think you see where he kind of like. Yeah, right there. That's that. He was he was doing pretty good. I mean, he's running against a former NFL running back. Pretty amazing.
Starting point is 00:12:39 You know, I want to see the white. Yeah. You know, anytime somebody starts off by saying well ladies and gentlemen the age 40 is real to all my men women out there that are 40 years old and above uh it's not a game respect that age respect that age or that age will will make you respect it i was just forced to respect it um this is just a public service announcement because I know people may see me out, and I don't want you to be alarmed, but I'm in a wheelchair. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:11 I'm in a wheelchair. Why? Because I try to jump out there and do some young stuff. Try to go out there and do some young man stuff, and I was told to sit my ass down. Shouts out to Steven Wiley. I'm going to go ahead and put this story out there before you do. Me and Steven, we got into a little debate. This debate was based off of who was faster.
Starting point is 00:13:32 Those that know me know I'm pretty fast. Steven said, Kev, ain't no way you're going to beat me. Steven is an ex-NFL running back, played for the New England Patriots. Very good guy. I said, Steve, you can bet it. He said, bet. I said, bet. We get out there, we go run
Starting point is 00:13:45 the 40-yard dash. 40-yard dash. Guys, I blew all my shit. Tore my lower abdomen. My abductors are torn. I don't even know what that is, but I tore them. I tore those two. I can't walk.
Starting point is 00:14:03 Lower abs. Sit my ass down. This is 44. Tell you what you just lost, son. You just lost every opportunity of me going to racing you anytime soon. It's over. Kenneth, it's over. Sit down.
Starting point is 00:14:25 What are we competing for? What am I doing? Why did I even race? Stupidest shit ever. Now I can't walk because I'm somewhere trying to get the title of the fastest nigga at the barbecue.
Starting point is 00:14:43 What was I thinking, son? God. Got to be the stupidest man alive. It is what it is, man. This is life. You know, I'm out. I got about six to eight. I blew my shit.
Starting point is 00:15:02 Welp. Red video Oh it jumps right there Yeah right there Boy you know what Y'all let me tell you something I'm getting all types of calls I'm getting calls
Starting point is 00:15:17 From friends, athletes Everybody starts off the same Man what the fuck That's what they say What the fuck were you thinking? Why you do that? Man, you're supposed to be in shape. Bitch, I am in shape.
Starting point is 00:15:31 It ain't got nothing to do with being in shape. Bitch, I am in shape. When's the last time that you have run an all-out sprint? I'm talking about a hard effort run. Giving it all you got. Lip-biting. I'm talking that lip biting run hands like this where you fucking and you making noises while you run when's the last time you have given
Starting point is 00:15:53 yourself a thousand percent effort sprint people don't do this shit not at the age 40 and up that's what my stupid ass in this situation. Look at this shit. Look at this. You know how long it take me to get the fuck out the car? I'm a mess. I'm a fucking mess, man. God damn.
Starting point is 00:16:14 This shit got me, guys. It's bad. It's fucking bad. My dick look like a thumb. Balls done got big as hell. Got some edema. Balls look like a thumb balls and got big as hell balls look like my fists can't move my goddamn legs all from on your mark you're sick never again never again to every friend that has called me and has laughed at me boy after this six to eight week, when I get back to functioning, I'm going to light your asses up. You know who the fuck you are.
Starting point is 00:16:48 You know who the fuck you are. Mark is set, go. It sat me down, didn't it? Should have been on your mark. It said no. No. No. That's what the fuck I should have did.
Starting point is 00:17:02 That's what I'm going to do next time. How this happened to you. you supposed to be in shape fuck y'all fuck every one of y'all what I am is in pain we'll be back this road to recovery is gonna be real I'll document it
Starting point is 00:17:18 goodbye man there's lots of different levels of of being in shape you know and going out and doing something that you uh haven't done in a long time can be really dangerous like there's there's nothing in the gym that you can do that can compare uh to putting that amount of stress on your body i think when you're sprinting obviously it depends on the amount of like force that you're able to generate but you're putting at least six times your body weight probably on each individual leg.
Starting point is 00:17:49 Good luck trying to figure that out in the gym. You know, you can't do a leg curl if he weighs like 150 pounds, whatever the multiple of six would be. You're not doing a single leg leg curl with that amount of weight or with that amount of force. You're just, you're never really doing it. I mean, you might, if you're playing pickup games of basketball or you're playing some other sports, maybe, but to run full speed. And that's usually where people get hurt. You know, people very rarely get hurt from the start.
Starting point is 00:18:20 They get hurt once they've been kind of going already for 20, 30 yards. I would say also to, in Kevin Hart's defense, he did a great job. Like he was right there the whole time. He was. Except for right towards the end when he got hurt. So he's fucking fast. Kind of also shows a difference in terms of like a max effort run because he runs. He runs a lot.
Starting point is 00:18:39 He's done marathons, multiple full marathons. But when you're sprinting and you're putting all that force through your body right everything is moving your legs are getting farther and farther apart if you haven't done that often and if you don't do that often shit he's trying to win shit that's a rough that's a rough spot to put yourself in yeah and going and going and running against somebody i guess is also problematic right because the person's, you're trying to keep up. If he just went out and did like a light sprint at 60%, he'd probably be fine, right? 70%.
Starting point is 00:19:12 But it was like the 90% or 100% that got him. Oh, it was 100%. Yeah. He's trying to beat this dude. You want to see the Gary Scheffler breakdown? Sure. We always need a breakdown from Gary, right? Go to breakdown.
Starting point is 00:19:27 But he's running Steven Ridley, and I want you to see Steven Ridley's landing here. No bow, inside ankle bone, low behavior. You'll see the ankle falling down and in. That leg ends in a valgus position. He's had MCL and ACL issues throughout his career. And then you see Kevin Hart in a duck-footed landing. Super duck-footed. He's all in his front chain. throughout his career and then you see kevin hart in the duck footed landing super duck footed he's
Starting point is 00:19:46 all in his front chain and then he tears he tears some muscles or whatever so you can kind of see how those behaviors even though they both the same they they don't necessarily have to have the same injury pattern so just kind of showing it then as the foot comes off the ground you'll see as he goes in the triple extension the heels inside same thing here with kevin hart the heels inside kevin hart his this is the kevin feeder pointed out so much it almost looks like he's trying to run like in a different direction almost looks like he's getting ready to like cut almost rather than like run straight keeps it involved i think you know it doesn't as you get older actually you know let me ask you this you're you're in your late 40s now you find when you get up you just got to warm up a little more than you maybe you used to or do you find that you do
Starting point is 00:20:33 that what's the deal uh if i if i if i trained really hard then i have always needed a good warm-up you know it doesn't matter how old i was. So if I, if I, I guess for lack of a better term, if I like feel old, which I've felt old in my twenties before, because you just, you know, you get these workouts in, you do these squats and these deadlifts and these different things and your body just feels compressed. And from heavy lifting, you sometimes feel like fatigued. And so, yeah, sometimes it would take me a while to warm up, but that was even when I was younger.
Starting point is 00:21:09 Um, I do hear a lot of people saying as they age, they need more of a warmup. Um, again, it just has to, for me personally, it has to do with my training. If I, if I trained really hard a couple of days ahead of time and you said, Hey, let's go over and let's go do some box jumps. I would walk in the gym and I'd be like, I need probably like 10, 15 minutes before I go jumping on anything. Yeah. But if I had a day or two off and felt rested, I could come in and just right off the street, start jumping into some things that are more strenuous. I think the biggest problem for most people and the reason why people get hurt with activities like that is just, it's been so long. There's so much removal from
Starting point is 00:21:49 when he's actually sprinted. Maybe in some of his runs, you know, prepping for a marathon, maybe he's done some casual, like, I'm going to pick up the pace. Like, let me see what I can get. He looks at his watch or his time and he's like, oh, I was, you know, running a six minute mile pace or a seven minute mile pace but that's still again so different than the amount of force that you're going to produce when you're sprinting yeah yeah when it comes to like stuff like this if you're someone who you know you you train in the gym a lot and you want to have the ability to sprint i think it's might be a good idea to like Joel Green it.
Starting point is 00:22:25 You know what I mean? Like if you can, try to hit a few random 60% sprints during your day. If you're feeling comfortable, if you're out there, I still do that now. Like I'll just go out a slightly like faster clip if I'm walking just so that you can just send the signal of, okay, my body knows how to do this. My body can do this. Because if you, I mean, I've pulled my hamstring sprinting after not sprinting for a long time. And that's just because it's something I didn't do. But if you can keep it involved, that's one of the biggest things.
Starting point is 00:22:54 And I also think like one thing is just try to figure out ways to keep your body moving. Casey made something, the recovery table. Have you guys fucked with it yet? Yeah. I took it home so I guys fucked with it yeah i took it home so i could mess with it this weekend so i've been doing a lot of myofascial release and it's i can't wait for this thing to actually come out because it's just this thing that you put on your couch so you can sit on a hard surface while chilling on your couch and doing some
Starting point is 00:23:17 myofascial release versus getting on the floor it makes it more accessible right because don't you know my place there's dog hair everywhere so like you don't always want to sit on the floor, but. And if you have dogs, they'll lick your face and everything else, right? Right. Yeah. The dogs came up on the recovery table too, but like that, that allowed just for a bit of extra movement, something like that, right? So just something to keep the body moving. Now we talked to countless professionals on this podcast about the importance of strong functional feet and chances are that your years of wearing narrow toe box shoes have weakened your feet, and they're probably not functioning the way they should.
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Starting point is 00:24:21 paluva.com slash power project links in the description as well as the podcast show notes yeah you got to stay in touch with uh your fitness whatever it is that you're trying to do um and again too i also want to point out like anyone can get hurt doing just about anything yeah so um even if kevin hart did train for that and sprinted uh there's still potential to get hurt when you're going 100 when you go when you go to lift heavy. I mean, look at all the years of training I had, uh, for all the different bench presses and stuff that I did. I still tore my pec a bunch of times, um, including times where, uh, the weight wasn't even a hundred percent. And then, um, you know, in terms of like running, I've hurt myself, um, hurt myself pretty bad twice running once was when I was like in high school. So I was young and I was already sprinting and I did track. I did like
Starting point is 00:25:12 four by a hundred, 100 meters. Um, I felt like I was pretty fast. Um, and, uh, I got hurt just, uh, running like a 40 yard dash or maybe a hundred yard dash in, uh, at a, at a football camp. And I like, I tore up like my hip and stuff, and that took like five, six weeks to heal from. And I was young, and I was sprinting all the time. I think my body got tight from lifting, and I don't know if I was practicing 100-meter. I think it was maybe the issue at that time because I was transitioning into more training for football, and the 100 meters I was doing in track was a couple years prior to that and then also as an adult you know going out to the track with our buddy Graham I hurt myself and I wasn't even that
Starting point is 00:25:57 that just that was so annoying and so frustrating to get hurt that way because I was new at running but I didn't feel like i was going that fast at least for me in my body the way i was feeling on that day i felt like all i was doing was picking up the pace a bit i was like oh this feels pretty good and i'm like let me go like just a little i just want to go i want to feel like we'll see what it feels like to go just a little faster and then pop there's something went in like my hip, uh, stomach or whatever it is. And that one sucked, man. That, um, that took like four months, five months, maybe even longer to heal from that. Dude, you can only ask of your body what it's, you've prepared it to do. Right. Right. It's like,
Starting point is 00:26:36 if you haven't been running and you haven't been sprinting, like don't expect to be able to go out and put 80% into your body and think you're going to be okay. Just like if you haven't been lifting a lot of weight, right? You haven't been lifting max effort. Then you go into the gym one day and you're like, okay, I'm going to do a max effort squat today. You might get lucky. You might get out unscathed. But most of the time something's going to happen because you haven't prepared yourself.
Starting point is 00:27:00 And it's like just the same thing. You know, if you've been inactive from doing a certain activity for years, you gotta be, you gotta be kind to your body, right? You, you gotta take it easy as you ease yourself into it. There was somebody in here today that's like, okay, I'm gonna start running. Uh, I'm gonna start running each day. Cause he's, he's pumped about running. And then we were just like, Hey, start with some run walks. Yeah. How long has it been since you ran? It's been's been years right running is one of the most natural things for us to do but when we stop doing it then it's not something natural for us to do anymore so you gotta ease yourself into it or you're just you're gonna get yourself ready for
Starting point is 00:27:34 some bullshit like what happened to him it's unfortunate what happened to him too it's like there's a funny aspect to it but it really sucks injury like thatury like that, it fucking sucks. You look at high-level baseball players, they tear their hamstrings all the time. And people, baseball's a game, it's not a sport. People say different things about baseball, but these guys are producing tons of force. One of the issues with baseball, though, is that there's a lot of latency. There's a lot of just kind of laying around and not doing much for a while. If you're a center fielder, an outfielder you might not have a ball might not have come your way for a couple innings and now you're up at bat and you hit one down the third
Starting point is 00:28:11 baseline and you got a sprint full blast to first base or whatever it might be and that's where you see like a lot of the a lot of injuries happen um but even a well-trained athlete i mean you how many times have you seen it in the olympics's like, oh my God, the guy's out. Like he prepared for four fucking years, you know, four years of like making the trials and making the team and all this stuff. And then probably since the time the person was like a little kid, they probably been thinking about this and they, man, they blow their hamstring out. I don't really know. Like I believe in a lot of the stuff that go to shares and a lot of the stuff that a lot of movement people share and the information and stuff. But I think sometimes just shit happens. When the human body is trying to go like 100%, I think sometimes shit happens.
Starting point is 00:28:57 But I also say that if you have had a long period of time in between an activity that you haven't been doing for a long time, you got to really baby yourself into it. You got to take baby steps into it. The sprints and stuff I've been doing, if you can bring up a clip of like I posted one this morning. I'm starting to run a little faster. I know I can run faster. I know I can open up more. But I keep reserving myself. I'm like, I don't, I'm going to probably hurt myself. It's been a long time, uh, since I really, you know, tried to try to run fast. And so it's going to, it's going to take, it's going
Starting point is 00:29:37 to take time and I'm not afraid of it taking like months or years even. And you're, are you wearing a vest still? Yeah. I got the wet vest on right there. Is that to even and you're are you wearing a vest still yeah i got the weck vest on right there is that to like kind of slow you down a little bit so that way not you know i don't know like the weck vest i think for me um in my uncoordinated efforts to run i think uh it'll actually make me faster i think i think maybe for someone who's already athletic maybe it wouldn't feel the same way. I think it would. But I know for Weck, he said that he's had a lot of guys like in his own testing. He's had people like run bleachers and run stairs and stuff.
Starting point is 00:30:12 And they run faster with the vest versus without. That's just his own, you know, his own testing stopwatch, you know, judging people. But the fucking thing weighs 12 pounds. So it's interesting because I think it is giving you a little bit of assistance uh off the ground it does like it wouldn't i understand why it makes you faster as i was fucking with it the other day it's like we were talking about the rhythm aspect to these movements jumping running etc and knowing when you check out this touchdown dance hold on andrew icky shuffle. Oh, nice.
Starting point is 00:30:49 The thing makes you want to move is the thing that's fun with it. And so what's the mechanism behind it, though? Is it like the propulsors where there's something rattling in it, or is it just like what's going on? Yeah, there's a spring in there. Okay. There's a spring, and then there's basically almost like a battery inside the spring. And there's like uh i don't know 20 or 30 of these things in there okay and every time that you touch down with the ground every time you hit the ground those things hit the bottom the battery inside hits the bottom
Starting point is 00:31:17 of the cartridge that it's in and then every time that you go to come back up, it comes up kind of with you. So if you were to jump, if you were to do a jump, you go downward first. Everyone that jumps up has to go down first, drive some force into the ground. As you go down, the battery inside will go down. And as you come up, the battery will come up. But the weird thing is when you jump, it doesn't come up with you right away. The battery hits the top of the cartridge as you're already off the ground. And so you go up and then you go up more because the battery is like whoop. It like pushes you up a little bit more.
Starting point is 00:31:56 At least that's how it feels. And Simeon, you had a chance to wear it. Does it feel like that for you a little bit too? What was I even talking about before? Shit. Yeah, it does. There's a rhythm aspect to it where if you're not somebody who knows, let's say that you're like cutting, right? There's a point where like you can hit the ground and when you come off the ground, you can be quick because there's a rhythm to movement, right?
Starting point is 00:32:22 That helps you understand when you should pop and when you should land. And that's why when somebody is jumping around with it, if you can keep the rhythm of the hops, you can get higher and higher and higher because you're able to produce force with the vest. I think the goal of using that vest is to go with it, with that force and know when to come off the ground so you can produce as more as much force as possible with the vest versus um just jumping with it with it on because you can you can land and if you jump a little bit too late when it's already coming up then you miss that you miss that point to be able to get as high as possible or be able to get that spring forward but what this vest teaches athletes how to do is it teaches athletes how to kind of coordinate
Starting point is 00:33:03 themselves and pop pop pop from one direction to another when you see really good athletes and be able to like really just zigzag really quick it's because they they're able to use that momentum of their body and they know how to they know how to pop that vest can teach somebody how to have rhythm with their pop that's that's it's like that's a timing thing that exactly it's instructing you on and if you can take advantage of that timing that's why I think his athletes are able to be faster because they are already athletes who know how to do that. So that vest just kind of reinforces that. So now they're able to have something that's assisting them
Starting point is 00:33:31 to move faster in whatever direction, whether they're jumping or propelling themselves forward. That's sick. It turns sprinting or running into like a rhythm-based video game. I don't know if you ever play those where you have to hit the buttons at the right time and then you explode or whatever it is. That's really cool. It feels amazing. It feels really good. He did a great job with it. I think it'll be really popular.
Starting point is 00:33:52 I think it's going to take off big time. Once people choose to not think it's a gimmick though. Because there are people who are like, you've got to put the thing on and you've got to fucking jump around and run with it so you know what it's doing. I can't even think of anything to really give good comparison to the only thing i could think of in my head is just like a pogo stick like the pogo sticks a pretty good idea yeah that's that kind of makes some sense i was thinking about like skipping a rock you know when you're a kid and you go to skip a rock and it skips like once or twice and then your uncle or someone shows you and they're like, no, you got to get your whole body sideways and then throw it sidearm kind of.
Starting point is 00:34:28 Then it goes seven times and you didn't throw it any harder. To me, that's the way the vest feels. The vest feels like less effort and you're getting more return, especially in jumping because the things, the cartridges are vertical. And when you land and you jump, it feels amazing so i'm excited for it i think it's i think it's really cool you know like you've jumped on a trampoline before yeah you know like you can jump on a trampoline and you when you when you come off at the right moment you can get super high but if you come off a little bit too late or a little bit too early you're kind of like you know what i mean yeah you go nowhere exactly it's kind of like a trampoline where it's like
Starting point is 00:35:04 if you can manage that if you know when to – you can hear it. It's cool because you have an auditory thing shaking so you can hear it. But then you can also feel that pop every time you touch the ground. It's like a trampoline in that way. That's cool. or an explosive movement. Do you guys, can you think of anything else that somebody can, I guess, maybe train to, like, get better at not blowing their shit up the way Kevin Hart did?
Starting point is 00:35:33 Like, whether it be, like, power plus movements or something. I don't, you know what I mean? Like, because I know, like, people understand, hopefully they understand at this point, like, don't go 100% day one. But, like, is there something else that, like, well, when I'm not even going 60%, can I focus on something else to kind of like work into? We talked about myofascial stuff. Yeah. I don't really think that there's much things that simulate a sprint.
Starting point is 00:36:05 One thing I would say is that like so something that people could do is to do simulated sprints somehow some way somewhere on something and uh something i've thought about for a few years now is like what can i sprint with where i'm not going to hurt myself okay i can sprint with my hands i can open my hand up and close my hand like as explosively as i want like as fast as i want not going to hurt that i can move my foot as fast as i want my toes. I could move my shin up and down as fast as I want. Then maybe you can move your arm, bench pressing and things like that. I can move certain parts of my body and it won't hurt. I could smash it. There you go.
Starting point is 00:36:38 You almost got it. Wait. Y'all remember the Seidman thing? Yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. That little... Babies do that when they cry. They're like...
Starting point is 00:36:50 Their fucking arms are going wild. Oh, that was good. Sorry. That's right. But most people can sprint. It's just not on the street. It's not randomly in like a 40 yard dash like you could probably go sprint on your aerodyne bike oh yeah you could probably do a sprint
Starting point is 00:37:10 maybe uh you know we'll scale it back even more you could probably sprint pretty good on an elliptical without any repercussions and also like you can just pull back a little bit like i don't think the sprint needs to be a hundred percent for you to get great results from it, especially if you haven't done it in a long time. You haven't done something in a long time, you know, going 60, 70%, uh, be a really good start. So there's nothing in the gym. That's a mimicker of what your hamstrings and your hips and stuff go through in a sprint. And that's why, um, functional patterns made that video about the best movement that you can do, which was kind of a dumb thing because when people talk about exercises, they're normally talking about stuff that you do in a gym. So I don't think it was a really fair comparison, but they were saying that sprints are a better exercise, better choice than deadlifts, which I think if you're saying, okay, I'm, I'm taking into consideration all movement, then I think a lot of people would be like,
Starting point is 00:38:07 well, yes, sprints and jumps and stuff like that. They're amazing. They're yeah. They're better than deadlifts maybe, you know? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:15 Just gotta make sure your whole body's prepared for it. I'm going back to it, but like some mobility work, myofascial release, like all these things, especially if you haven't done stuff like that before, your back's going to be tight. There's going to be areas out here in your core that are tight that you won't be able
Starting point is 00:38:28 to open up. You won't be able to like twist. So when you're running, like if you're running stiff, then you're running like this just with the arms because your torso can't move. It's you, you, you want to ease yourself into that type of stuff and make sure your body's like not super tight because if now you're trying to produce force through a system that has kinks in multiple areas that's an easy way like it wasn't even his fucking hamstring it was his
Starting point is 00:38:51 lower ab and his fucking adductors right so that means that maybe there was something not opening up here and then when he just viciously opened up rip yeah it wasn't ready right it just wasn't ready so that's um you don't want to be sprinting with a tight body. You might be able to like run in place kind of fast without hurting yourself. Um, I know Donnie Thompson has done that before on the sand dune stepper. Oh yeah. And he's like,
Starting point is 00:39:16 I don't care if you think I look funny doing this. This is like high knees. Yeah. Yeah. Just do it. Yeah. Doing high knees, doing drills,
Starting point is 00:39:22 like things like that could be, they might not be as fun as just like letting loose and going ahead and just doing a full-on sprint. But there are a lot of things that you can sprint with. A lot of the stuff that we were shown, the little plyometric things, and there's so many different movements. What's the guy's name? What's Dak's name, the dunker?
Starting point is 00:39:43 Oh, ooh, the dunker. D-A-C, Dak something. Yeah, I know who you're talking about. name what's Dax name like the dunker Oh the dunker AC tax something he yeah I know he has the highest vert he's got the 50 but the other guy on the show that we had the highest route to but um he's friends with Cador he's somebody else posted this oh wait there's that stronger by science was it that guy maybe that was the guy that I was thinking of Darius Clark King Dak is his Instagram K-A-N-G-D-A-C
Starting point is 00:40:10 let's see he's a fucking Jesus he's so explosive it's ridiculous and that guy strong by science has a lot of really sick stuff yeah I need to check that out because I think that's what I was. But what are you looking for from Deck? Just he was doing these like, I mean, just pull up anything from him.
Starting point is 00:40:34 He's fucking crazy. He flies, bro. But like he does easy stuff, though. Like that's not that difficult, right? Like he can jump like crazy. So these other movements that he's doing where he's jumping like a madman, but he also does a lot of stuff that's more subtle. Trying to find,
Starting point is 00:40:56 it was posted by somebody else. I don't think I'll be able to find it. Almost hitting the top of the backboard. But he does a lot of stuff where he does like these little mini plyos where he's just jumping, bouncing off of like one foot. And again, it's effortless for him because of the shape that he's in. But back to Andrew's question of like what would you have somebody do? I'd have somebody get used to just jumping, just in the air. Don't even jump on a box.
Starting point is 00:41:29 I'd also have people get used to jumping down from stuff. Stand on something that's 12 inches high and jump down from there. If that feels like it's too high, start lower. I'd also have people start to get used to being on one foot. Do some training in the gym, unilateral, do some hops on like hopping up and down on one foot. If you haven't done that a long time, it might be a way more taxing than you think. So you have a hot date coming up and you look in your closet and all you see are the old ugly clothes that you usually wear and you're going to wear tonight. It's time to end that, guys.
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Starting point is 00:42:41 dot com slash power project. and you'll automatically receive 20% off your order. Links to them down in the description as well as the podcast show notes. But also if you have a sled, you can put some good force through that. If you have something like access to one of those tanks or something and you put the resistance a little higher, you can really
Starting point is 00:42:58 allow yourself to produce a good amount of force through that without getting injured. And you've talked about that a lot. But that's something still people can easily use. Do a sprint uphill. Exactly. Slows you down, you know, going uphill will slow you down a lot. How about on the beach? The beach is a lot harder surface than you might think sometimes.
Starting point is 00:43:18 So you just have to pay attention to like how the sand is for that day. Because like the sand, I've been out on the beach before, like running for like over an hour. And I'm like, oh my God, my feet are fucking killing me. Because every once in a while, the sand is actually really hard. So if you want to sprint
Starting point is 00:43:36 and you want to go all out, then do it in the soft sand. But you're not going anywhere either. And again, I would suggest not going like all out. Go like 80% or something. It would be a good start. going anywhere either yeah and again i would suggest not going like all out it'd go like 80 or something it would be a good start but again i don't think it has a ton to do with age i don't know how you guys feel on that same note but um again i think if if the three of us did something that we're not used to um we might do okay in it because we're all, we are all still connected to certain things.
Starting point is 00:44:05 You guys are connected to a sport that has a lot of physical demand and you ask your body to move in a lot of different ways. And then you guys are also dealing with somebody else's body weight. You're dealing with somebody else's nervous system. You're dealing with somebody else's intensity. Like there's a lot of things going on in the sport that you guys do. So I wouldn't, I would actually be surprised or shocked if you guys went and played a sport and got hurt from it. Um, you know, with some exceptions of like, if you went and played tennis randomly and you try to go against someone that's like
Starting point is 00:44:41 really fucking good, then maybe you're trying to go too fast too early but the stopping and starting like it seems like you guys address a lot of that so that would be another thing that people could do is like just play a sport man like go play fucking play softball on the weekends or volleyball whenever you get the chance because that i mean you having some competitive fire and you diving for a ball and volleyball that's like a little it's a mini sprint but it's a sprint i do think something like pickleball is fucking amazing though because like even though from what you said right jujitsu does have a lot of variables you're on the ground right something like pickleball you're moving or tennis you're moving laterally quickly right you don't move laterally like that in jujitsu unless you're on the feet and it's for a very short amount of time you're moving forwards that in jujitsu unless you're on the feet. It's for a very short amount of time. You're moving forwards quickly.
Starting point is 00:45:25 You're moving backwards quickly. You're swinging. It's like there's all these things that, yeah, some of them are involved in jujitsu. But I think if you haven't done something like that in a while, you're going to look real clunky trying to move laterally quickly to get to a ball, right? Yeah. to get to a ball, right? Yeah, and I love that us, especially on this podcast with the guests that we've had, but even people that are listening, we kind of look at an injury or we look at something that's preventing us
Starting point is 00:45:54 from doing X, Y, Z a little bit differently now. So when we had Brian McGinty in and we were doing those jumps on the mat, my right knee started bugging me. And so I had the opportunity to ask him about it, but he was explaining like, oh, it's like your tibs. And so now it's like, okay, that's something I need to address now. Versus before, I might have just been like, oh, shoot, I can't jump the way I used to.
Starting point is 00:46:16 I'm getting old. It's like, well, no, I don't work my tibs ever, you know, like, and that's something I need to address. And so what I hope is that people listening, like they're kind of been around us and around the podcast long enough that they also have this approach if whatever ligament or uh ailment is bothering you it doesn't mean that you're old it doesn't mean that it's over for you it just means you need to address it and there's a really good chance that we've talked about that exact same thing on the podcast. So the education,
Starting point is 00:46:46 I think, just needs to catch up with like this whole getting old thing. You know, like it's probably never going to get there, but I just know that
Starting point is 00:46:55 the people that pay attention to this podcast will eventually be like, nah, that's bullshit. Like, I can actually fix that. There's so many people
Starting point is 00:47:03 who are probably like listening that have felt themselves getting younger too just by doing more shit right i mean if we felt it but i know that there's so many people who felt the same thing it's like you probably feel better now that you did a few years ago and it's just a few additions and you'll feel better in a few years that you did now it's it's yeah there's going to be a point where you start to feel your age but at the same, you can continue to get better. That movie I was telling you about, it's called The Swamp. It's on Netflix.
Starting point is 00:47:29 And it's a story of the Florida Gators and the intensity. See if you can bring up a teaser for it, Andrew. It's sick. But they do this event. They do this thing. They get all the football players around. And everyone watches these two guys go at it in this one thing that they're doing. And the objective is one guy has to crawl, like I think around 10 yards,
Starting point is 00:47:51 and the other guy's goal is to just completely nullify and prevent the guy from crawling. And it gets wild. They start, like, beating the crap out of each other. They don't show a ton of it. They show, like, you know, I don't know, maybe show, show like maybe 30 or 60 seconds of it but i was completely blown away um this is when tim tebow was on the team tim tebow by the way was fucking jacked he's still jacked he's still huge 6'4 240 pounds he was a monster and used to run people over but it's kind of the way that uh the coach of the florida gators uh built up this
Starting point is 00:48:25 team it was really pretty interesting but having them do that crawling drill i was like man i got to tell andrew and steven about this because this is nuts it'd be cool if they showed it here oh yeah they might they might there you go that's it that's the crawling yeah oh my god yep they just showed a brief tiny little clip of it but it looks like he was elbowing a dude yeah they're like eff it man we're just gonna go for it what you see the intensity of this team and i talked about like tebow like the girls would like pass out you know when they're like watching the game and shit like people would just lose their mind watching these guys play was it i think it was tim tebow where like he had to he had to be really careful when he was taking pictures with like chicks and stuff because he had like strong faith oh yeah and so like chicks would try to like dive into a picture
Starting point is 00:49:13 like topless and shit like they would and he would just have to like yeah that's man college away from me she devil yes he supposedly like couldn't go to class and stuff after a while. It just got to be so nuts. He's like, hoes, please, no. That's crazy. Strength is never weakness. Weakness is never strength. Catch you guys later. Amen.
Starting point is 00:49:34 Bye.

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