Mark Bell's Power Project - Are We Crazy? Bryan Callen Roasts Us (Our Response)

Episode Date: November 27, 2025

Bryan Callen is roasting cold plungers, calling everyone “inflamed” and “swollen,” and clowning on the sauna-cold plunge obsession… so we had to respond. 😂❄️🔥In this episode, Mark Bell and Nsima Inyang react to Bryan Callen’s bit (and clips from Louis CK & Joe Rogan) and ask the real question:Are we actually crazy with all this health stuff… or is this what it takes to feel good for the long haul?CHAPTERS:00:00 - Intro00:38 - Reacting to Bryan Callen's Cold Plunge and Sauna Clip03:41 - Ideal Sauna Temperature for Health03:58 - Importance of Toe Strength07:38 - Are We Crazy? Exploring Health Trends12:41 - The Science of Aging16:01 - Secrets to Living to 10019:59 - Effective Training for Health21:38 - Long-term Benefits of Consistent Training22:18 - Strength Training for Longevity23:59 - Emulating Mark Sisson's Lifestyle27:10 - Overview of Merrick Health Services29:33 - Media's Influence on Health Perception33:48 - Importance of Regular Blood Work37:57 - Louis CK on Appreciating Health40:53 - Louis CK's Take on Jim Carrey's Fall41:30 - Health is Everything: A Core Philosophy44:17 - The Dryness of Health: Understanding Wellness47:55 - Childhood's Impact on Health54:40 - Strategies for Staying Lean54:50 - Benefits of Good Life Proteins56:38 - Managing Your Diet Effectively01:00:50 - Finding Enjoyable Physical Activities01:05:50 - Benefits of IV Drips for Health01:08:30 - The Crucial Importance of Health01:13:02 - Your Fitness Practice: What Does It Look Like?01:13:18 - Taking Care of Your Extremities01:13:32 - Closing RemarksSpecial perks for our listeners below!🥩 HIGH QUALITY PROTEIN! 🍖 ➢ https://goodlifeproteins.com/ Code POWER to save 20% off site wide, or code POWERPROJECT to save an additional 5% off your Build a Box Subscription!🩸 Get your BLOODWORK Done! 🩸 ➢ https://marekhealth.com/PowerProject to receive 10% off our Panel, Check Up Panel or any custom panel, and use code POWERPROJECT for 10% off any lab!🧠 Methylene Blue: Better Focus, Sleep and Mood 🧠 Use Code POWER10 for 10% off!➢https://troscriptions.com?utm_source=affiliate&ut-m_medium=podcast&ut-m_campaign=MarkBel-I_podcastBest 5 Finger Barefoot Shoes! 👟 ➢ https://Peluva.com/PowerProject Code POWERPROJECT15 to save 15% off Peluva Shoes!Self Explanatory 🍆 ➢ Enlarging Pumps (This really works): https://bit.ly/powerproject1Pumps explained: https://youtu.be/qPG9JXjlhpM?si=JZN09-FakTjoJuaW🚨 The Best Red Light Therapy Devices and Blue Blocking Glasses On The Market! 😎➢https://emr-tek.com/Use code: POWERPROJECT to save 20% off your order!👟 BEST LOOKING AND FUNCTIONING BAREFOOT SHOES 🦶➢https://vivobarefoot.com/powerproject🥶 The Best Cold Plunge Money Can Buy 🥶 ➢ https://thecoldplunge.com/ Code POWERPROJECT to save $150!!➢ https://withinyoubrand.com/ Code POWERPROJECT to save 15% off supplements!➢ https://markbellslingshot.com/ Code POWERPROJECT to save 15% off all gear and apparel!

Are you cold plunging, huh? Be honest, because I'm going to be honest. I don't want to be a jerk. You guys look very inflamed. I just want to know, do y'all think we're crazy? Like, are we crazy? Here's how I know that we're nuts, because this is Brian Callan, and he's having a good time, and he's comedian, and we're making this out to be so serious.

I think a lot of athletes have a tendency to just push pain under the rug. When I was a soft player, take the ibuprofen, just kind of mask it. But if you're someone who doesn't actually deal with any of that, you're able to have more productive sessions, more productive games, more productive matches, more consistently, less time on the sidewalk. Everybody can train, but how long can you train? How well can you train versus the person who like fizzles out because of injuries and pain?

All right, this clip of Brian Kellan was sent over to us. I don't know if it's like making fun of us or if it's about us. But if he actually mentions us, that's going to be fucking sick. That would be. Yeah, let's see what it's all about here. Are you cold plunging? Are you? Be honest. I'm going to be honest. I don't want to be a jerk.

I'm looking at this room. You guys look very inflamed. Hey, that's real. Hey, if you're inflamed, going to a coal plunge, you will. Yeah, people are inflamed and bloated, right? Everybody here looks, this room is swollen.

You should look 20% smaller. You got to sit in ice water. Guys, you have to sit. It's going to suck. Every morning after meditation, obviously. But you sit, get in ice water. It's going to hurt. It's going to suck.

just stay there until you're sure you cannot have children anymore. That's when you know. Make sure everything is frozen, but here's the good news. Go right into a sauna. Go right in. You want to go from the waters of the Arctic to Death Valley because that's natural. And yeah. Do you know if Brian Kellan does this stuff or not?

I think he does. Because he's like he's in that Rogan sphere. Right, right. And he's a healthy dude. He talks about health stuff all the time. So I think he does, but maybe not. I think he might be in Austin, Texas, too. And it sounds like a lot of those comedians all train together and get together and end up doing the cold plunge and the saunas and all that stuff, I think.

Austin's like another one of those, you know, health, you know, health mecca places. So, you know, everyone over there is doing all this type of stuff. So I think if other people were doing it, like if you're doing it together, it'd be a lot easier. Oh, absolutely. You know, doing it separately, like forcing yourself to get in when you're just staring at that cold plunge and you want a second that self-doubt trickles in. You're not going in probably. It is one of those things, though, because cold plunging, you know, it got super viral and popular. I think I even saw a movie where like Seth Rogan was in it and he was a rich guy

and he was like going into his cold. Actually, no, it was Zach Efron. He was going into cold plunge and his sauna. So it's actually seen as like a meme. Right, right. Doing that stuff. Yeah, meme culture. Even though it is good for you, but I don't know. I wonder where it would be like 10 years from now. You know, if people would be like, hey, they were right. Like, that was awesome. And it's still a thing. Or if it'd be like more. buried. The thing is though it's this stuff has like been a thing a lot in other places. So it's one of those things where I don't know like what's it's fucking Sweden. Yeah yeah cold exposure and yeah all that yeah hot springs and stuff. You know in Japan they also have like hot baths and saunas et cetera and

in the in like Russia in places they that's a big thing over there. So it's I think it's just like it became popular here even though a bunch of other places in the world has realized how healthy it is. There's places that have like really just cold temperatures in there. They're, water is very cold and people jump into the water and then they go into somewhere super warm yeah and that's what i did when i was in uh norway it's amazing yeah you know that's part of their culture they do it like almost all the time so it's kind of neat sit in the sauna sit in there i don't give how hot should it be it should be so hot it makes you a better person okay yeah you should think about hell all right yeah so that's those are the two non-negotiables and you by the way balance

balance you all know this this is you know I give my presentations are also full of useful information and they are finding that when you fall when you fall in your 80s and you break your hip and die it's because you had bad balance and the reason

you had bad balance is because you have weak toes you don't know this it's amazing we don't talk about toe strength that is the most if you work in your home we don't we don't

Well, we've been. We've been trying to talk about toe strength, building up the toes. Toe spacers, wearing the polova shoes and the vivo barefoots and the... Yo, Americans have a weak feet. Really? Build that shit up. We've got some weak feet over here. Some people don't like to be barefoot at all.

I have some friends. They just like never take them. Once their shoes are on, they just never take them off. That's weird. I know, right? Yeah, that's quite odd. Keep those feet protected. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

But, hey, I think there was a study where there's a time. So strength was measured, it was a factor. I think I actually mentioned something like that at a foot video I made, toe strength. So I feel personally attacked by that. But it is important. I think, I think, you know, I mentioned on a previous podcast that when somebody breaks their hip, an older person, a lot of times they break their hip while they're standing still. So that wouldn't necessarily be a balance issue. A lot of times they break their hip and then they fall.

But maybe it's hard to figure that out or hard to tell. I'm not sure, but... Well, you would have, like, this thing. Work and balance and having stronger feet. I mean, it's not a bad thing to explore. It's not, but it also wouldn't make sense that people, like, because, you know, as you get older, you do lose balance, and you also don't know how to fall well.

Like, the concept of break falling is something in martial arts. You learn how to fall. You learn how to take a fall, so you learn how to disperse your weight on the ground. I've seen you fall in the gym before where you were, you know, balancing on the PVC pipes or whatever those were, yeah. Yeah. And you fell, and it was like, no big deal to you. Because I broke up.

and you tried it a couple more times and you still fell and you yeah but didn't bug you at all learning how to fall should be something i think i don't know it's like it's an if somebody trains people or trains older people it would be nice if they had some mats where they could learn how to do that from a low position and a high position because like at some point you will fall and you'll need to know and have that instinct on break falling you know so i think everybody should do that the people on the sidelines in NFL games especially the older individuals they actually do teach them how to fall Oh, yeah? Because they're like, the play's going to come your way.

You're not going to be able to get out of the way in time. There's too many people on the sidelines a lot of times, and you try to get out of the way. And you're supposed to sort of break your fall with your forearms, not with your hands back. Yeah. Because then you could break your wrists. But the main thing they worry about is just someone hitting their head. They're like, hey, at all costs, try not to hit your head on the ground because it's either like turf or the sidelines of a football game. Even if it's grass, it's going to be very hard on the sidelines.

Gotcha. body you're doing nothing for your toes that is so irresponsible all right this if you're not running in heavy sand barefoot at least three days a week i do not know what to tell you i don't i don't and i can't stand where you're like i don't live in here right now i can't find heavy sand i have children and bills well then die in your 80s you lazy piece of shit every time i go to bidega bay i'm just sitting there like like my wife's like relaxed you know she's just like chilling she's laying out And I'm just sitting there like training my feet, training my toes, grabbing the, grabbing the sand and like pulling it towards me.

And I'll do like movements with like my hamstring. I'm like, oh, hamstrings and glutes got to be involved if the toes are involved too. So I'm always doing stupid stuff like that. I want you guys to comment. I just want to know, do y'all think we're crazy? Like, are we, are we crazy? Because I don't know. I guess we might be thinking about this stuff too much that are we the insane ones?

And we just don't realize how fucking crazy. to be I want to know what do you guys think or just yeah comment that let me know I think ultimately like it makes us feel good so it's like to each their own right yeah I also don't think I mean after it seems like your girlfriend is spectacular and amazing in a lot of ways and same I like with my wife she's just like she's just awesome at stuff anyway she doesn't seem like she needs to like train her feet you know your girl seems like mobile and strong and like all these things and gets into a gremlin squad every morning to brush her teeth it's like what yeah right yeah and it's not like she doesn't work at it my my wife works at it too she's

training all the time but um it just seems to come like a little easier for my wife than it does for other people and so i'm always like i just feel like i need it i feel like for me like i'm antsy and i want i want to do the extra stuff so yeah i might be laying down on the beach and then just go i wonder it feels like to sprint like next to the water you know like i want to just go feel that and just mess with that. Yeah. And, you know, like, it's, it feels much better. My body feels so much better these days than it did in the past that it just makes me, it makes me not want to stop doing these things because I don't want to go back to the place where it was when I had pain in any of those ways. You know what I mean? So it's like, why would I stop this now when I'm feeling

so great? Like, why? I think there's, you know, there's a lot of ways to get strong. there's a lot of ways to get lean you know but basically there's general like overlying like principles of hypertrophy of strength of really almost anything that you're going after and i what i could say after years of doing all this stuff after training at like west side barbell and utilizing these different methods is there's not one method that reigns supreme that gives you an unfair advantage over everybody else yeah now you might have an advantage over someone that doesn't train at all. But again, back to the general principles, the general ideas of, you know, strength training, training your feet, training your balance, training your coordination.

You're going to have a huge advantage over people that don't do it at all. But overall, with other people that have similar general principles in place, there's probably not a program or a thing that allows you to have this crazy advantage over everybody else. It just sort of can feel that way. You know, I used to wake up. up at like 5 a.m. and train. And that felt like I had an advantage over everybody. But that's just a feeling. That's not true. I don't really have an advantage necessarily just because if someone trained at 7.30, what if they trained harder than me? Or what if they trained harder and smarter than me? I think one of the factors, especially as an athlete, though, is like, you know, many athletes can

when I say athlete, I think again, everybody is an athlete when it comes to trying to battle life you know, trying to age better. So everyone's an athlete in that sense. But if you play a sport, I think an advantage is not having nagging issues because a lot of athletes can work through those issues. But, you know, the athletes who are able to have a level of like longevity within their sport and they're always feeling good, they're able to compete at a high level more often than the other person who is dealing with stuff all the time.

You know, and I think a lot of athletes have a tendency to just push pain under the rug or push these things under the rug because you're an athlete. You know, when I was a soccer player, take the ibuprofen, just kind of mask it. But if you're someone who doesn't actually deal with any of that, you're able to have more productive sessions, more productive games, more productive matches, more consistently, less time on the sideline. So that's why I think it is super important. You know what I mean? But sometimes when you're just so focused on competing and training, you just kind of don't think about those things. and it's uh when you get when you get things married together when you have someone has a good

genetic component epigenetics you know along with what they do in their environment then you end up with like a hicks and gracy where i don't even think hicks and gracy supposedly never even lost ever yeah which is like like a hundred and something and oh which is uh pretty wild but he did all the techniques right he worked on the breathing he was talking about nasal breathing you know decades ago Yeah, yeah, he did, no, he did a lot of stuff. Enastika natural was this body weight training thing that he did. You know what I mean? So he did a lot of things even outside of jiu-jitsu.

So again, it's one of those things that like, that's where I think it falls in. Because everybody can train, but it's like, how long can you train? How well can you train versus the person who like fizzles out because of injuries and pain? Here's how I know that we're nuts because this is Brian Callan and he's having a good time and he's comedian. and we're making this out to be so serious. That's a good indication that we already lost our mind. Are we angry? But I do agree with your point.

And I didn't think about it from that standpoint. What you're referring to is more like frequent uptake, right? Frequent oil changes, frequent. Like everyone's car can run. Yeah. Right? But like, hey, dude, like your car is going to be messed up, you know, six years from now, eight years from now.

You're going to have to pay a lot of money to get your car fixed because you're not taking care of it now. Yeah. With the little stuff, right? Yeah, you want to live to 105. That's the new 50. Yeah, let your friends die at 85. You want to get to 105.

Don't miss those 20 years. Yeah, oh, that's a blast from 85 to 105. Woo-hoo! Yeah! Can't wait. Can't wait to get to 100. Do you ever see what the average 100-year-old person looks like? You can't tell if they're male or female.

You become involuntarily non-binding. That's what happens. A hundred year old, get that fine. Like your face looks like a used catcher's mate. You're walking sideways like a crab. My mother-in-law a couple times at the grocery store. She's gotten, sir, sir, and she's like,

oh. She's had a short hair for like a long time. And she actually has some pretty good muscle on her too. And she's like, damn. But yeah, as you get older, I think that does happen. And maybe it happens, you know, maybe it kind of on, unfortunately happens before you're 100 you know might happen when you're 75 85 yeah something like that everyone starts to kind of uh look a little bit more similar mm living at 100 is an interesting thing

if if you know I would hope that living to 100 by the time that maybe weren't 100 is different than living to 100 now yeah with all the things that are being made et cetera like who knows it could be a much better experience ideally it will be a much better experience if it happens But, yeah, the 100-year-olds we've seen, or I've seen in videos, generally, it's, it's, they kind of want to go. Yeah, right. They're ready. Yeah. My grandma was ready.

She was 100. She was like, what am I out of here? I want to stop reading. Right. Right. Yeah, I think you're, you know, your eyesight diminishes. Like, maybe it doesn't go completely. But the likelihood do you have 20-20 vision when you're 100 is probably really low?

Yeah. Your hearing's not so great. Yeah. You know, so now you have a hearing aid. You got glasses. Like you need, you need, like, aid just to kind of do the stuff that just comes to us. Like just. Not if you had the toe strength.

Right. Imagine if you had that toe strength. Well, now we got to work, work our ears. Yeah, yeah. Do fucking vision exercises, look at far things and near things. Put red light in your eyes so that they stimulate your corneas to help it heal better. I think in the future we might know more stuff. and maybe that stuff will be effective enough to, like, help bypass some of that.

I don't know. Some of that was a joke. Some of that was serious. Red light is good for your eyes. Yeah. You know? It is. I know.

We got these funky glasses here and everything, blocking the blue light. All right. Let's play it. I have strong toes. I eat kale. I sit in ice water. All my friends are dead. I'm a winner.

Damn. God, such bullshit. Rather die smoking and robbing a bank. That's how a man goes out. Okay, pause right there. I do think, I do think, if, you know what, okay, this is a very individual thing. But it's good to allow yourself some things that aren't that great for you,

that you know aren't necessarily, um, according to the studies, they're not good for your health, it voluntarily, you know what I mean? So like, something I started doing a few months ago because I found it in my cabinet and I was like, you know what, I know it's not good for me, but every now and then, let me just have a shot in the morning.

I don't do it at night because I don't want to fuck up my sleep. But like once a morning, one morning once a week, I'll have a shot at tequila, one morning once a week. One morning once a week, you know, just, and for me, it's more of a mental thing of just like, I could have this tequila and it's not going to fuck me up. I'm good. You know what I mean? Versus like I'm not someone who likes alcohol like that. I like how it makes me feel from time to time, but I don't need to get drunk. But I just do it because it's like, all right, cool. I had a shot. It's not a big deal, you know? That and sometimes with food, like it's, if you can have a level of control with it where it doesn't spiral into something bad, I think that that's something that is actually helpful. You know what I mean? Because we all know the person who got to like 90, something, 100, something there's smoking a cigarette every day.

I'm not saying you need to smoke a cigarette every day. But there are some people who are able to just get away with that. And I think part of it, this is just a, this is my bro mentality towards it, is that they don't put too much stress over it. You know, it's not like, like there's a nonchalance. like this doesn't matter it's not doing anything to me and for many people it does i'm not saying that people should start smoking and have a belief that smoking's not going to hurt them that's not what i'm saying but also it's like doing things and not making them a big deal you know what do you

think yeah just being less stressed over it less worried about it don't let it yeah um yeah less worried if your diet was perfect less worried if your training was perfect if you ran enough this week you know yeah i think i mean you see that in sports too you know uh the athlete that just feel like i used to see it in power lifting all the time the guy that felt really confident in one particular lift yeah he treated it that way you know and he came up walked up to the bar for the deadlift they get locked in and bam they just nail it and then maybe they were less confident in a squat or something like that and you can kind of see it when they were training they were like more worried about it And the more worried they were about it,

the worse it became for them. And they would try to even train it more often. They would try to even train it harder. But there wasn't any cure for it other than just to like chill the f out. You know? You'd like calm down a little bit and not worry about it so much.

Your mind can have a big effect on a lot of different like aspects of the way you feel of like your outcomes. So again, I'm not saying it's all in your mind, but I think some of it is, you know? and it's it's but again it's it's it's one of those things that's a bit of a balance because you know where's the tipping point for me I know like if I had a shot every morning that's definitely not good for me I mean so it's figuring that out for you or what that looks like

and then also being realistic and understanding is what I'm doing currently actually giving me worse outcomes so there is a reason I don't have it before I go to sleep I'm trying to sleep well you know what I mean I've never um I never really have looked at looked at training much from like a health perspective, you know, and I know that's a, that's a thing nowadays, you know, to be like healthy and to talk more about, I mean, healthy stuff has been around forever, but from a longevity perspective or any of those things or some sort of maybe like biohacking type of thing. Yeah. You know, again, I do believe in like the blue light blocking glasses, but these are just things that I, these are certain things that I've learned

and I've tried them and they feel helpful to me now. Yeah. I'm not necessarily, I'm not disregarding what my life would be like when I'm 80, but I really don't think about it much. I don't, I just don't really train that way. Like yesterday I did a bunch of sandbag stuff and I, um,

I was lifting sandbags for like 90 minutes straight pretty much, just on and off, you know, took a little breaks in between. And when I got done, I was like, wow, I, I maybe shouldn't have done that because I just lifted sandbags for 90 minutes, but I just wanted to get to practice it and I was working on it. And I've actually kind of discovered a couple new ways for me to pick up the sandbags. And so, again, I'm not having no regard for tomorrow or no regard for a few years down the road.

Yeah. But I just in general feel like I have some pretty good healthy practices in place that should work well over a long period of time. And I think that that might be where you get the bigger advantage over some other people is when we talk about the long haul if you do the little things over a really long period of time well then there'd be like a larger and larger gap you know if you've been working

on exercising in VO2 max and something like that like an athlete like yourself just hypothetically your VO2 max might be in the 50s it probably is in the 50s and that's amazing for someone that's your body size too that's like absolutely incredible if you can maintain some version of that

within you know five or 10% of that until you're 70 or 60, like that's remarkable. And you will have longevity advantage, most likely over a lot of other people. I mean, we can never tell what's going to happen to us. But the likelihood that you'll have a vibrant life into your 60s and 70s will be high if you can keep even just some of this.

Yeah, yeah. You know, I think it's twofold because one thing is we've learned to enjoy aspects of our training. Like I like to train and you like to train. But not everybody likes to train, which is why I think it's, I mean, I don't think this is the first time in history that people have been looking at strength training through the lens of longevity. At scale, actually, at scale, that's right, though. At scale, this is the first time. That's falling up from like Gabrielle and Joe Rogan and all these people talking about it. I think that's a good thing. You know, that people start realizing, because I think for some, the gym and strength training and those things are seen and have been seen as the things that they're.

the bros do or the people who are obsessed with their bodies or the people who just are looking to have muscles for vanity. Like it was seen as like that kind of thing. And, you know, we just had that guy who wrote the book stronger. It was also, it's also been seen as something that people with less intellect do. You know what I mean? But it's good. I think it's very good that more and more people are starting to understand, well, if I can do this now and invest in my body now and build the habit of doing this maybe I won't be like my mom or dad were when they were 60, 70, and 80. Because I think a lot of people have seen what their parents were like because it wasn't as big of a deal to train in that generation. Right. And you kind of see that they need a lot of help. They need a lot of assistance.

They're not as vibrant as you know they could be and you don't want that outcome to be for yourself. But now you understand the things that you can do so you potentially don't end up that way you know um and we're seeing more and more examples of people who have been training for a while at those ages and they're fucking great so it's like we see positive examples we see negative examples and we understand what the answer is and now it's like if i do this i can get there yeah i look to like you know i always try to look to the people that are a little bit older like stan efforting is like 10 years older than me sean baker's like 10 maybe 12 years older than me like or maybe he's 10 years older exactly pretty much you know and that's interesting okay this guy's

like a full decade uh older than me and then also uh you got mark sisson yeah and mark sisson i think is like he's one of the guys where you really got to tip your hat to him because he's like in his 70s you know and that's he looks great he looks amazing that's awesome yeah and he also built a life for himself that uh allows him to you know like maybe just you know relax a little bit bit more, be a little bit less stressed because he has, you know, finances to take care of himself and all these different things. But I think there's a lot to, there's a lot to emulate there. There's a lot to look up to. And maybe even there's a lot to examine and say, hey, here's some things that maybe he overdid because he was a triathlete. He was at a really high level.

But maybe he would also have it, wouldn't have it any other way. Because without that structure in triath, as a triathlete, maybe he would have never made. primal kitchen and had the primal blueprint and all the different things that he did that were you know that were just unbelievable at the time that he that he did them selling companies for a few hundred million dollars and stuff and then going out and still playing ultimate frisbee and i don't think easy when you have a hundred million dollars exactly and you live on the beach but that's that's what you got to you know for some people like that will be helpful like to have yes have a good career or i was being sarcastic when i said that for people who don't

watch the show like i'm saying what other people would be saying yeah that i mean that is what they say but like read some books you know like fucking up up your game you know like if you have a job that you don't like coming from the guy who doesn't read yeah exactly exactly never read never read one book but learn from youtube right that's what i learned from yeah yeah yeah learn from audio books up your game yeah yeah oh man all right Salads for cowards That's a good t-shirt You know what the other thing is though

You know it's funny Is you can do everything right Is the other thing you realize when you get older You can do everything right You can literally take your vitamins You can wear your seatbelt Go to church Pay your taxes give to charity

Eat all the food that's good for you And somebody can still Step out of the shadows And kill you Right You can That's a fact That's the other thing

And social media reminds you of that you can die at any time of anything. And that's a perfect segment for Merrick Health. Get your blood work done at the link below. I will never go to a doctor ever again about my general health. All they want to do is put you on pills. Really well said there by Dana White. Couldn't agree with them more. A lot of us are trying to get jacked and tan.

A lot of us just want to look good, feel good. And a lot of the symptoms that we might acquire as we get older, or some of the things that we might have, high cholesterol or these various things, it's amazing to have somebody looking at your blood work as you're going through the process, as you're trying to become a better athlete, somebody that knows what they're doing,

they can look at your cholesterol, they can look at the various markers that you have, and they can kind of see where you're at, and they can help guide you through that. And there's a few aspects, too, where it's like, yes, I mean, no, no shades of doctors, but a lot of times they do want to just stick you on medication. A lot of times there is supplementation that can help with this.

Merrick Health, these patient care coronators are going to also look at the way you're living your lifestyle because there's a lot of things you might be doing that if you just adjust that, boom, you could be at the right levels, including working with your testosterone. And there's so many people that I know that are looking for, they're like, hey, should I do that? They're very curious. And they think that testosterone is going to all of a sudden kind of turn them into the Hulk. But that's not really what happens. It can be something that can be really great for your health because,

you can just basically live your life a little stronger, just like you were maybe in your 20s and 30s. And this is the last thing to keep in mind, guys, when you get your blood work done at a hospital, they're just looking at like these minimum levels. At Merrick Health, they try to bring you up to ideal levels for everything you're working with.

Whereas if you go into a hospital and you have 300 nanograms per deciliter of test, you're good, bro, even though you're probably feeling like shit. At Merrick Health, they're going to try to figure out what's like things you can do in terms of your life. lifestyle. And if you're a candidate, potentially TRT. So these are things to pay attention to to get you to your best self. And what I love about it is a little bit of the back and forth that you get with the patient care coordinator. They're dissecting your blood work. It's not like if you

just get this email back and it's just like, hey, try these five things. Somebody's actually on the phone with you going over every step and what you should do. Sometimes it's supplementation. Sometimes it's TRT. And sometimes it's simply just some lifestyle habit changes. All right, guys, if you want to get your blood work checked and also get professional help from people who are going to be able to get you towards your best levels, heads to Merrickhealth.com

and use code Power Project for 10% off any panel of your choice. No, he's totally right, though. I know, and... That's real. Social media has some crazy stuff on it. You know, I remember, like, maybe a few years ago, I was like...

Because for some reason I saw it on Facebook, this was before Facebook and Instagram were like intertwined. And I would just get all this crazy violent shit on my Facebook feed. And I'm like, I'm just not even looking at this app anymore because I would see like old people getting beat up by young people. I'm like, well, this is this is insane. I don't even want to look at any of this. Yeah, yeah.

It's, no, but that's real. Again, things can come out of nowhere. Fuck, cancer can come out of nowhere for people. These things just, you could be doing all the things right. The amount of times I hear about, like my mom told me recently about someone in our Nigerian community. He was super healthy, he was playing sports, et cetera. Boom, heart. Something happened, something happened with his heart, you know?

No one knows what it was. No one knows what caused it. And using his 20s. But, you know, I would, it would be hard to think that just because something could happen, that means that you should like kind of just yellow things. You know what I mean? Right. Because I think some people, that's the mentality.

Like, I could die any day. Might as well live it up right now. And I'm not saying that you shouldn't have fun. enjoy yourself and travel, do whatever, whatever these things are. But for me personally, that doesn't necessarily mean I'm just going to be irresponsible with my health because it feels great being healthy. You know, when we're able to go do the things we want to go do physically, when we're able to just every day go to sleep and feel good in the morning. It feels great being healthy until you don't have it. It's one of those things where it's like,

It's, I mean, I made the joke of the Merrick Health after he said that, but. No, seriously, get some stuff checked out. That really is like why I get my blood work done. You know what I mean? So I can just make sure that there are no red flags. You know what I mean? Because.

Well, if there's something that pops up, like if let's say your cholesterol is messed up, I know there's a lot of controversy over cholesterol, but say your cholesterol's a little bit off and then let's say your APOB is off. This is stuff that Peter ITIA talks about a lot. Yeah. Well, they could say, hey, you know,

this has been off a little bit, let's get your diet intact. Maybe there's pharmaceutical intervention that needs to happen. But on top of getting that looked at, they might say, hey, you should get a scan. Yep. And then you get a scan and you see if you have any calcification. You don't have calcification. There's really no ramifications of those triglycerides and those lipids being off. It's not it's not harming your body, right? Somebody else might get the scan and they'll say, oh shit, you have calcification and now you might have to try to figure out what to do about it and what do you do about it you just you try to learn more you go to a cardiologist or you go to um look up stuff from peter ita or some of these people online that are communicating this information out there's there's no

drug and there's no procedure yet to get rid of plaque however there are things that you can do where you can line things up to where your body will actually turn the uh hard plaque in turn the soft plaque into hard plaque. And you want the plaque to be hard because the soft plaque is the one that breaks off can cause an aneurysm, stroke, or heart attack. Yeah. So there's a lot of shit that you can do. Like, because some people might say, okay, well, if I get my blood work done, what are they

going to do? Tell me to take a, you know, vitamin D pill. Well, they might, they might. But there's other precautions around it. They might look at your prostate numbers and say, you need to get a prostate exam. You need to get this other exam. And yeah, it's scary. but we know now if you take care of stuff early on, imagine taking care of stuff from your 20s.

Then just like we said with the car scenario, like now you're not having to get a whole new transmission or a whole new engine. You just need a little bit of maybe therapy or you might need a little bit of like, hey man, what's your sleep like? Turns out you only sleep four hours a night or something like that and they help you with that. Yeah, dude, I've brushed things. I've brushed things under the rug in my life that I shouldn't have. But my health and luckily is not one of those things. I've just had a habit of, you know, it's not like I knew about blood work until we learned about it years ago. But when I started doing that, I was like, you know, I need to do this every single year. And as I'm getting older, my sister, my mom are getting older, right? It's one of those things

that like, this is important. You know, I think one thing is like men especially have a tendency to just not check. They don't want to get the blood test done. They don't want to go to the hospital because they don't. My TRT is the best thing they were happening in. Because they're like, I want to see if I can get on some steroids. Oh, dude. Oh my God. But, but seriously, it's one of those things just like, I don't look at this as like, I don't look at this as overkill, you know. I still do want you guys to let us know, are we over? Do you think that we are overdoing things? But when it comes to that aspect of things, I don't think it's overkill. Because like, I like being healthy. And it's one of those things where it's like, if you are healthy, do your best to maintain habits that will

ideally help you preserve your health, even though anything could happen. And if you, if you're not healthy, it's a good idea to try to figure what it is that's going on so that you can become healthy because when you are, it's something again, you just realize you don't want to lose. It's kind of funny because if I saw, like, if I saw someone out in the street and they said hello because they recognize me from this or YouTube or whatever. And they start talking to me. If they started talking to me with any sort of length, I would like want to get down in a squat or get down in like a lunge, you know. And if it's a fitnessy person, someone that recognizes me from that. I'll say, hey, excuse me, you don't mind if I do this. And they don't care because it's not

weird, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's kind of more weird to everybody else, like your family member and stuff like that. So I don't do that kind of stuff where it's not, you know, where it's not maybe I guess more appropriate, but I don't see anything wrong. It just feels good to me to like continue to be like moving around all the time. Yeah. And a lot of times. Sometimes we have people here and we'll, you know, most of the people that come here like fitness people, but we'll talk to them afterwards and like, hey, let's walk. Hey, let's grab a rope. Let's get in the sun. Um, it's just a small to me like, and we might be crazy, but it's just a small adjustment. It's not. It's not. It doesn't seem, it doesn't seem too nutty. I'm not crazy that I'm working my toes right now as we've been

talking to you in this whole conversation. I'm not fucking crazy. And your grip. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I freaking carry that. As you go down the street, you're working on your extensers, right? You're as you're driving like this.

Why wouldn't you? With your elbows. Tell me why that's a bad idea. Tell me why that's a bad idea. I've seen people die of every way you can imagine. I think they do that. I think the social media gods monitor our levels. I think they're like, you know,

his dopamine levels. Uh-oh. have been a little too high let's bring his cortisol and adrenaline levels up send him the video of the escaped circus elephant that stomped that poor guy to moor you're just like oh I love elephants why is it shaking its head so violently

what the fuck you know they were doing video these kids were capturing themselves sucker punching people sucker punching people on the street I went nuts I looked at my wife I go first of all you're too relaxed I need your head on a swivel

When you're walking down the street, I want you, your hands up, I want you bobbing and weaving at all times. It looked like he was gliding a little bit. Yeah, yeah, he was actually. Yeah, he's been, I think he's been boxing for a long time. Yeah, no, he strikes, but like. Laxed, I need your head on a swivel. When you're walking down the street, I want you, your hands up, I want you bobbing and weaving at all times. You know what I mean?

And my wife is like, the kids are opening their presents, you know? And the other day, this is what happened. I can't. I always say go light. I'm rolling with this kid, 26 years old, gives me his ankle. Don't give me your ankle, bro. You can't just leave your ankle like that. I'm an ankle guy. I'm an ankle guy. You must have forgot, you know? I picked that. I just got that. I scoop that up. Drove him right down to the mat, had an ankle sky high. And then I had trouble looking left for 11 days. Worth it. Ryan, I think you said you had another video you wanted us to check out. yeah this uh louis k jill rogan the one thing that you think about the most when you're sick is god i wish i was healthy When you're healthy, it just seems normal. But when you get sick, you're like, oh, God, this sucks. I can't wait to get healthy.

But you, when you're fucking healthy, you've got to, like, do whatever you can to preserve that and recognize that there's a possibility that you can get sick. Appreciate the shit of being healthy. Well, and then with work, though, with comedy, I feel like there's this other side of the other side of the spectrum, which is that you should be willing to be very uncomfortable and very unhappy because that's love. But you're doing it, is my point. If you took it away from you, like COVID when we couldn't do standup, well, then that's

you being sick. That's what I'm saying. I mean, it's like, not that it should always be the most fun thing to do it in the most His exercise fucking blows. Like, being healthy, I sit in a... Isn't it interesting how the comedians always talk about how there's such a dark side comedy? Oh, well, yeah.

You know, I think it's... Oh, shit. A bunch of comedians, they seem to, like... You know, they'll mention they have, like, mental health issues. Even I saw, like, a documentary on John Candy recently, and his dad died, I think, when he was, like, seven or eight. And they just said John Candy was, like, the sweetest person ever, but he wanted to make people laugh, you know,

because he had so much like heartache in his life. And yeah, you see that with a lot of comedians, this really interesting thing. You would think that maybe they're just, maybe they're just born a little different. They're just happier and funnier in general. But it seems like most of the time they dealt with something or they had some sort of period that was very stressful or hard for them.

That was, you know, kind of this dark period. And they come out of it and they make people laugh. Yeah. And then, you know, on the face of it, like just the shallow end of it, that's not that deep. just even the lifestyle of a comedian, you have to work deep into the night. You know what I mean?

And for nothing at first, right? Exactly. You know, that's hard because, like, I mean, we talk about all these things about optimizing your health and some of the things that they have to do is almost kind of opposite of that. It makes it harder.

You're traveling all the time. You're working late at night in clubs. And it's like, it just makes some of those things maybe a little bit more difficult than for somebody else that's not in those. You have to make a concerted effort more than I think somebody that's outside of that lifestyle to try to be healthy. Jim Carrey, who's the other person I was thinking of.

Oh, yeah. And somebody said that they were go over like Jim Carrey's house when he was like a kid. And he had all these things happen to him when he was young that, you know, just weren't great. He didn't have a great. But he had a childhood that was kind of like dark. I think his mother was really sick. And so he's always trying to make people laugh. But like his idea of making someone laugh is he would like fall down the stairs and pretend he like broke his neck.

Oh my God. you know yeah because like he thought it looked funny and looked silly but and also he was very mobile and flexible physical comedy and so he could kind of like throw himself down the stairs without without hurting himself people like oh my god he's like oh no i'm just kidding i'm i'm fine some twisted humor yeah man fucking sauna for 25 minutes and 190 degrees and cold plunges and all this shit that i do it sucks yeah i don't like doing it but i'm doing it because being healthy is far superior to being sick yeah but you forget You forget sometimes.

Well, but also it can be a really, it can be a bummer to be healthy. It can be. How so? Pause? Well, I feel like whenever I get sick, I'm such a bitch. Like, like, really. You know, the, I think, uh, I have a... Sam make fun of you?

I make fun of myself. I got sick right before Worlds this year, so I then I couldn't compete, but I was just like, I was, I remember you were bummed. Yeah, you know what I mean? But every, like, again, I don't get sick that often, but every single time that happens, like, it just, it just makes me. It reminds me why I do some of the things that I do. There's people that are sick, you know, every day and it's complicated.

They're not even necessarily sick because they haven't explored, you know, health and fitness. They're just sick because they're seven years old and ended up having something terrible happen to him. That actually reminds me. Have you seen this video by Chris Williamson? Oh, yeah. Where he's like, he has like this mole thing he's been dealing with for Lyme's disease. Lyme disease and there was a mold thing he was dealing with for a while. It's like, like, something, yeah, like, I don't want any part of that.

And that's something that's like, it's hard to have avoided that no matter how health conscious he is. You know what I mean? So sometimes things do happen that like mold? How many times have we been exposed to mold probably a bunch of times? I mean, here in NorCal it's drier. So, you know, we're not in Florida. We're not in Texas. So there's probably less mold.

But we've been exposed to mold. I've been in the woods, you know, a bunch of times, you know, because you can get bit by a tick. That's how you get Lyme disease typically. And yeah, just lucky, lucky to be breathing, lucky that you wake up. I've woken up before and had like weird stuff happen where you're like, oh my God, I'm just so grateful that that normally works just fine, you know, like you wake up and I don't know, your ankle hurts or your knee hurts. But like there's some people that wake up and they just, for some particular reason, they'll have like humming in their ear i think that was something that chris williamson was also dealing with to where at a certain point it was like the noise was so much it was like kind of

making him crazy my brother ended up with something similar a few years back i don't think he has it anymore sometimes the you know when we go we talk about EMF and we talk about all these things and for some people uh maybe the earbuds or something like that wearing them too much maybe maybe it's not a great idea i'm not saying that i know for sure that it's that that's what's causing but uh you just never know you know it's just try to take care of yourself the best you can but imagine waking up and just your vision's blurry yeah you know it's not blurry for like three minutes because you got some like shit in your eyes or whatever it's like blurry for like an hour or two i mean scare the shit out of you and then just but normally we just wake up our eyes work our

ears work or nose works everything just works yeah and then you're like oh don't want to train today that's the kind of shit that I think about I'm like oh man this is just so great that like okay I'm a little sore a little tired but like what can I train today what's available what's open to me for today that's what I'll have to think about later today since I ended up doing the sandbags forever the other day

yeah yeah yeah I've had streaks where I'm like I'm doing it all right you know and I'm not doing things that I know make me feel like shit like eating a bunch of pizza that's just going to flood me with sugar and slow me down and give me a headache and give me a depression that I'm like I end up curing with a cigarette and then I can't move even more and then I eat more.

And it's a terrible thing. Yep. And like two weeks later I come out of like a dungeon. Like I got to stop. Like I can't believe I just waste it all that time. Right. But when I'm like, I'm doing it all right. I'm eating well fucking salmon with brown rice, a little bit of vegetables, you know, or whatever.

I always salmon and brown rice. Right. I remember when I first started thinking about health stuff and like when I was a teenager, I was like I was trying to get more fish and salmon and brown rice and and, you know, all that type of stuff. But it was always that. Salmon and brown rice and a little bit of hot sauce was. for some reason and some broccoli. The go-to.

That's the go-to. The polyunsaturated fats. My wife asked me the day, point blank, she's like, what's the deal with polyunsaturated fats versus saturated fat? And then I went well, and she goes, forget it. So my daughter always does. My daughter always does this.

She'll go, every time I bring up, I start to explain something. I'm like, actually, there's a lot of controversy because polyunsaturated fats, some people believe that they can even inside your body, turned into stuff that's not great for us because there could be like free radical damage from it. But yeah, yeah, yeah, everything in health and fitness has like an asterisk next to it. It does. Should I eat eggs? Well, right? It usually seems like the, like if it's, it was put here by

mother nature, you should, you should be able to eat the hell out of it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Unless you have some maybe predisposed genetic thing that's not working well with that particular food. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. And drinking water with lemon and staying away from, you know, drinks, no alcohol. Right. Sleeping without any help, all those good things, you know? There's a dryness to that. Like, after a while, I just get cranky.

I just feel like, I want to. Pause? Yo, like, okay. Like that description, there's a dryness to it. I got a blandness to it, yeah. You know, this is like, this is going to be the, the, sometimes, like, when I was a kid, I hated going to sleep early. And I would always be like, mommy, mommy, mommy.

sleep is coming, sleep is coming. I wouldn't go to sleep, right? But as an adult, like, I start feeling tired at nine. And for some reason, there are some nights, I still have the tendency of like, I'm not going to sleep. I'm going to stay up till 10.30. I'm going to stay up until 11.

And then, and I regret it in the morning. Because I feel it. I'm going to tell your mom, by the way. She's going to put a stop to that right away. No, Doug, I feel it in the morning. And Sam, my girlfriend, she's even like, why do you keep doing that to yourself? I'm like, I don't know.

For some reason, I just want to stay up a little bit later. Like, I try to fight what I know is good for me sometimes. Yeah, being defiant. Why? Why do we do that? It makes no sense. It's actually 90 minutes of sleep. Perfect.

That's what I need. It feels great. Oh, I'm the same way. Yeah, I don't want to go to bed for some reason. What's weird, though, too, is like, I have like a, I have like, you know, a slope at a certain point in a day. And it's usually like around like eight or nine, clock. Yeah. Yeah. And I'm just like, oh, it's too early to go to bed. And then I'll go to bed. And then it's like 11.30. It's like so stupid. It doesn't make any sense. Oh, dude. Any sense at all.

I'll be like halfway falling asleep just like, you know, texting or or watching TV. And I'm like, I should just go to bed. Perfect time to go to bed. And then I don't do it. Sometimes I do it, but it's rare. Same, same, same. Uh, don't know why. Okay. Let's keep going. indulgence. Can you pause quickly? I do think that's like the funny. That's kind of funny because it's like, that's your way of being defiant to your health.

Everything. Go to sleep a little bit later. I know. I know. You know, everything stems from when we're kids. You know, you can't escape it.

Everything stems like I was the youngest in the family and my brothers were allowed to stay up a little bit later. Yeah. And I'd always hear them. And I like, you know, so I'm like in bed like this. Like just wanting to get up and like play with them. So I'd like, you know,

I'd look downstairs. And my mom'd be like, back in bed I'd get in trouble all the time as an adult you're like I'm never going to bed that's right that's right yeah that's my defiant yeah defying my younger self I guess oh man it's some sugar in you

yeah moderation feeling like shit has its good points indulgence has its good points yeah when you feel like you're like what the fuck did I do that for it's a when you hit the bottom there's a comfort in that it's a bed the bottom is like a bed do you don't I mean I mean like alcoholics and drug addicts I don't know what that's a great point man like uh you know for me um if i was to eat a bunch of pizza and stuff i feel so differently you know i end up with like some bloat i end up i mean even sometimes

we come in here and you'll be like yo you put on some weight you know i might gain like six or eight pounds sounds ludicrous sounds like i'm making shit up but like no you might you might hold on of that especially if i was to drink beer if i was to drink some beer and have some pizza like I'm gonna be puffy and it's just for like a day or two and then it goes away it goes away as quickly as it as it came on but that feeling of like this feels gross kind of gets you gets you back in the game you know because you're like I don't want to feel like that tomorrow that would be absurd to feel like that every day and then you kind of you get back to it so I kind of agree with what he's saying. I think, though, that as you move along, I think that you're, you know,

you're, we shouldn't even call it the bottom, but your bottom level will actually be higher, you know, your bottom level is you had a couple, uh, legendary sweet rolls and, and you maybe ate like a, like a cheeseburger from friggin, in and out, you know what I mean? In and out cheeseburger. Oh my God. Yeah, it's like not that, it's not that wild, but you also probably didn't get the fries you probably didn't get the giant soda with it or you know stuff like that like but for me like especially over the last maybe year or so I've done more of that stuff and it's like if I always just tell people like what what these foods were they would be like those are not those are not real cheats this isn't like Stan efforting yeah it's not quite as bad

as Stan yeah eating some strawberries or something like that oh sweetness that's my cheat right there that stands cheat strawberries exactly yeah it's not it's not that far along but it's getting there yeah you know it's getting to a point i mean just uh yesterday i i had a sausage burrito um and i had uh like i just more recently i haven't really been eating like a lot of cheese so my wife made like a cheese board and we had some like dates and i ate all that stuff but normally normally normally i'm not really eating fats and carbohydrates together so like that was sort of like a cheat for me okay as lame as it is it as it is but i think the further you move along i think the more that you're going to start to go maybe not as far as stand efforting uh but the further you're going to

go towards that or the further you're going to go towards like michael herne um he loves peanut butter so he'll have like peanut butter and jelly sandwiches and like just a couple little things like that that aren't really that far off the map yeah the thing is though it's again when when you are an act when you're active right a lot of these things um they they just end up being used to give you better better workouts you know what i mean that's a good point i mean jo rogan's usually working out in the morning and so he doesn't want that sluggish feeling probably the next morning right yeah yeah so it's like i'm not i'm not saying that okay so it does kind of it doesn't suck but in reality if you're someone who's pretty active right it gives you a

a bit more room to eat foods, you know, that aren't the healthiest. And the odd thing is that if you exercise often, these foods might actually be healthy for you because they might give you more fuel during your exercise to have more energy output. That care-freeness too. I think Rich Froning famously would eat a sleeve of Oreos. And that's all anybody focused on. You're like, oh, he could eat whatever he wants. Are you kidding me? Like hang out with Rich Fronning for a week. It's like the D.K. Matcalfe talking about candy. Of course, candy's not all he eats, but he does eat candy, but he's also sprinting almost every single day.

He's a bag or two of candy. He's like 225 or 235 pounds and he's ripped. But this is the thing. It's not that many calories, right? We think now, think about the opposite context, eating two and half bags of candy and being sedentary, not moving around much, eating a bunch of pizza and ice cream

and not doing much in terms of physical output. That's where you can get into a lot of trouble. So it's one of those things where it's like, you know we want to say these foods are bad these foods are good but these foods might not really be that bad if you're a very active person it doesn't mean that you should be having those foods every single day but it also means that when you do you don't feel shitty about it like whenever i do have handel's ice cream by the way if you haven't had it handels is amazing it's way better than ben and jerry's i don't know if you've ever been to handels no where is it uh there's why have you

There's one close to where I live. Me and me and my girl discovered about six months ago and it's different. So you definitely should try it. But when we have our handels, I don't feel like shit because I know I'm going to. I exercise. You also don't really have a cheat anymore, do you? Like you don't necessarily have like a cheat. Like correct me if I'm wrong.

When you were bodybuilding, you probably had like a cheat day or cheat meal. Meal probably. You know what I mean? They would. Yeah. And I would contextualize them as such. And it was a little bit like. a thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah, right? Like you, you have the cheap meal and maybe you have the cheap

dessert and then you kind of move on and you go back to your strictness of your diet, right? A bit more strict. Yeah, it still allow certain things to fit, but it was very, still very, yeah. And then now, though, you probably don't really have, it's not like, I don't like next Sunday is my birthday and I'm going to like. I don't contextualize it like that. That's, I don't look at it like that just because like I generally eat healthy and I will have handels, but not, it's not an event. Five percent of your diet maybe? Yeah, five, maybe eight, once, eight sometimes. It might, yeah, might, yeah, depending on. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So again, it's like, that's the thing. I don't look at these things as like events. All right, Mark, you're getting leaner and leaner, but you always

enjoy the food you're eating. So how are you doing it? I got a secret, man. It's called good life protein. Okay, tell me about that. I've been doing some good life protein. You know, we've been talking on the show for a really long time of certified Pied Montese beef. And you can get that under the umbrella of good life proteins, which also has chicken breast, chicken thighs, sausage, shrimp, scallops, all kinds of different fish, salmon, tilapia. The website has nearly any kind of meat that you can think of lamb. There's another one that comes in mind. And so I've been utilizing and kind of using some different strategy, kind of depending on the way that I'm eating. So if I'm doing a keto diet, I'll eat more fat and that's where I might get the sausage and I might get

they're 80-20, grass-fed, grass-finish, ground beef. I might get bacon. And there's other days where I kind of do a little bit more bodybuilder style, where the fat is, you know, might be like 40 grams or something like that. And then I'll have some of the leaner cuts of the certified Piedmontese beef. This is one of the reasons why like neither of us find it hard to stay in shape because we're always enjoying the food we're eating. And protein, you talk about protein leverage it all the time. It's satiating and helps you feel full. I look forward to every meal. And I can surfing turf, you know? I could cook up some, you know, chicken thighs or something like that and have some shrimp with it, or I could have some steak. I would say, you know, the steak, it keeps going

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think you're trying to necessarily, you know, bring your body fat. percentage down to half of what your body fat percentage is right now. You're not trying to get to like four percent or something like that. If I was getting much, much leader, okay, I'd maybe cut a bit more down. I'd cut down on those things. But like the way I'm eating keeps me healthy, keeps me active, and keeps me around this body fat. Right. I mean, so. I think most people could really benefit from trying to, I know the cheat thing is so hard to figure out which way to go with it and how to name it and how to call it. And I think the best thing is to really not, I think the best thing is not have a cheat day, not have a cheat meal, but have stuff that's off the plan

here and there, sprinkled in with some sort of control. And maybe, like, maybe that's what you track. Maybe that's what you count. Maybe that's when you're like, you know, I just want to track this so it's not 2,000 calories. You know, maybe, maybe I'm going to allot this amount of calories to it because then it's just a drop in the bucket. If you're, if you normally have 2,500 or 3,000 calories a day and maybe 800 is devoted here and there, maybe twice a week to some junk food, probably

not a horrible idea, two slices of pizza or something like that, probably not going to throw you off. Yeah, agreed. But in my little self-abuse is... Every down and get off the real. You just got it. No, I like it. I like doing that too. But I stay healthy. That's good. But I do go off.

I mean, I will eat pizza and fucking spaghetti and ice cream. I'll go crazy. But then I just self-correct. I go, okay. You know, and I feel feel so bad when it's over. When I eat like a giant, like a fucking big Italian sub and like a fucking 32-ounce Coca-Cola, I feel like hot. You know something that never makes me like feel like crap? It's like if I go to a Brazilian steakhouse or, you know, and I get like a bunch of

meat or something like that, I can eat a lot of meat and the next day. I'll feel great. I mean, I might feel a little bloated because of all the sodium and shit, so I'll be a little bit bloated, but I'll go work out, have crazy workouts, right? Things will, like, self-correct in a day or so, but I still feel great. But it's only if I, like, if I have a fuck ton of, like, sugary stuff, like, let's say it's like if I had pizza and ice cream, that combo for some reason, if you have a lot of it, I'm talking about a lot, not just a little bit of pizza and ice cream, I'm talking about a lot of pizza and ice cream. For some reason, you just don't, I don't feel

that great after that. Oh, no, it wrecks me. I mean, you're talking about, like, gluten and lactose you know you're just like blending two highly allergic things together you know what I mean that yeah they'll make your eyes swollen and shit the next day you're like your eyes are puffy I'll start to actually break out by the way like I'll get pimples and shit you know what I mean it's like damn me my skin gets fucked up you know and there's just like a lot of other stuff in there and I think you know I guess maybe at the Brazilian steakhouse maybe there's some other stuff preservatives or something like that in the meat or something like that but um you know I think, again, back to the cheat thing, I think that there's ways to cheat within particular diets.

You know, if you're on the more of the low fat side, maybe you would count your calories or maybe you would count, maybe you would just try to keep the fat low, which isn't an easy thing to do when you're cheating. And if you're doing a little bit more low carb or you're trying, like what I'll do, if I was going to go to a Brazilian steakhouse, probably the day before, the day of, or the day after, or maybe a combination of all those. The only thing I'm having on that day. Yeah, or I might, and I might just also eat less carbs.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, because I'm like, well, I'm going to consume a shit ton of fat and a shit ton of protein. And I don't really need a bunch. I don't need rice for energy. I don't need a potato and stuff like that. So I think, you know, you can, you can kind of move and shift all these things around and still enjoy the hell out of some really awesome foods. Yeah. Dog shit.

No, it's the worst. An hour and a half. No, and then ice rain, which is my favorite thing. I'm just, I'm just shit. It's just shitsville. and it's burning hot shits for like a week I pay hard for ice cream so I don't do it often

but there is, I don't know I don't think it'll ever not be I still stay in shape and some discipline for a stand-up and I've got this thing at the garden like to me that's like the big fight of my life that's the championship fight

but when that's over and I take a year off I do part of me thinks I might just Brando out and I might get really fucking big I don't know might do a reverse Bobby Kelly yeah I don't know

I don't know I hope not sometimes I'm able to be more healthy when I'm not performing because I go up state more and I make my trail and I do my that's better exercise than a gym anyway. I think it's important to be healthy, but I also think it's important to enjoy yourself.

Yeah. I think, you know, there's something about food pleasure, mouth pleasure from, you know, eating a big fucking, actually. He said something small there that, I don't know, maybe it's not worth mentioning, but he mentioned going outside and hitting the trails is better than the gym anyway. So in his mind, that's the thing he enjoys versus the gym, right? So like, I think that's a really, really important thing, you know, whether it's, I think some strain training is important just for the body, but finding the thing that doesn't, for you, the physical activity that you like, because again, there are a lot of people out there

who physical activity doesn't feel like, I love the gym, or I love working out, or I love this. But you got to find something that allows you to use your body, that allows you to exert and have some effort and stress your system out a little bit to become stronger. You have to find that thing that you enjoy and you can do almost, do multiple times a week.

And if you can find that, you can make that consistent, then it'll make a very, very big difference for how your body feels over the years. How cool is it that someone like Louis C.K. I don't know like how much hiking he does, but I do have a couple friends that they don't look like a whole lot. And they're older, like 55, 65 years old. They hike a lot and they're like, hey, man, you got to come with me sometime. But they hike like 15 to like 20 miles. And I'm like, okay, yeah, I have run that before. I've done a marathon. But I'm always like, like, because you go out in the woods like that and you're far away from stuff, you know, you're seven miles in. Now you've got to go, you know, now you're like, I got to either finish or I got to go back.

Yeah. And to me, I think for me, I'm like, I think that's a little bit dangerous. I'm not ready to do that. I actually need to train for that. Like, let me, let me go on some hikes that are six miles and four miles and five miles maybe with a pack or a little bit of weight and then I can get used to it. but it's interesting because you would think like you know just think like oh some of these people they don't look super fit but they find their fitness

they find the thing that they like and they can whip your ass on some of these things you'd be surprised 100% a whole of rigatoni it's great it tastes great just you gotta know what's happening I like I enjoy drinking I like fucking tipping a few back with my friends cheers everyone cheers I like doing a shot before I go on stage I enjoy it yeah but I know what I'm doing right I know when it comes in the morning I'm going to do everything I can to counteract that

Yeah, sure. We forget sometimes. I mean, Joe Rogan just, we've heard him speak so much. Yeah. We forget what a rock star he is. And we forget what a rock star, his friends are. Louis C.K. is like, yeah, when you play at MSG, that's Madison Square Garden. Yeah. That's like one of the most coveted places in the world. As a comedian, that's the place that Andrew Dice Clay famously sold out two nights in a row. And every comedian wants to be able to sell out that building. That's like everyone's like goal. So you forget. that these guys are playing in front of 4,000, 6,000, 8,000, maybe 10, maybe 20,000 people. And like, what does that feel like? Yeah. Like, that's got to feel absolutely amazing. They got to feel similar to a pro wrestler.

And you see pro wrestlers, rock stars, I mean, not only do they have an unhealthy lifestyle, sometimes they're getting involved in drugs and like all their kinds of stuff. That's just not healthy. So these guys blazing a trail talking about. you know how they have a shot maybe someone gets a little high before they go on stage it's pretty benign in comparison to like what could really be going on yeah yeah you know and i think that these guys you know they they may be they hang out afterwards i heard rogan talk about like sometimes they'll hang out like three four in the morning or something like that but it sounds like he does

that occasionally and it's just to be it's just to get that high after the event the event was such a big thing that uh that's something that you know people in this profession. I don't know how you do with that because it's got to feel amazing to get done with the set and to have learned it and to just crush it and kill it as a performer like that. I'd imagine you'd be like hyped and you probably want the congratulations. It probably feels good to get a couple of pats in the back, especially from some of your friends and stuff. So these guys are in positions and situations like I just like lift and then I'd go home. you know there's no like there there's no like a mini parade waiting for me you know because

i accomplished something amazing uh these guys kind of have that almost every single time they play because they're so high level at what they do yeah yeah it's pretty wild lifestyle i do everything i can with vitamins i take iv vitamins and drips and i do all kinds of shit but i keep it working right but i also use my body in a different way yeah my shoulders have you ever done iv stuff iv drips or anything i've done a little bit um if you want to I can I can grab somebody local I hate needles girl I don't need anything well yeah a friend of mine has a company locally I forget the name of the company I wish I could plug it but he has a company locally where he does that but like I've seen other people do

it and and it sometimes makes you not feel so good yeah don't need a fuck because like you're just getting an influx of some of this stuff and it's supposed to they can do like you know vitamin C and they can do glutathione they can do all these things and it's supposed to you know work well for you i think if i had if i had particular ailment or something i would i would do it because i would be like okay well it's worth a shot like if i was if i had some sort of weird lingering cold or sickness for like six weeks or something maybe i would try it but i feel good yeah i don't i don't want to like tamper with uh anyway i just think these guys are amazing though i mean joel rogan he doesn't really get viewed as like a fitness influencer but he's the most powerful fitness

influenced her to ever walk the face of the earth probably i mean he might be uh actually i mean he might be more influential than like joe weter or might be like able to put him up close to that i mean joe weeder and arnold hard to compare to that so maybe not but you get my point it's like yeah he speaks to hundreds of millions of people with his microphone every time he's doing a podcast and he's always trying to work on health and i know some people are like oh he's missing the point on this it's like dude he knows a lot he knows a lot a lot of people that he has a lot of people that he'll have on the show they know a lot as well and they're all like what i like about it is it seems like everyone's trying to get better yeah everyone has a but like you know i know i'm always swinging from

like joe rogan's nuts but like he's he's he's a he's a black belt you know he's a black belt in jujitsu he does he's uh you know announcing the ufc he used to do fear factor you know like he's doing like so many things to me it's hard not to admire it because you're like man and he has a bunch of kids and seems like he has a built a cool life for himself so I just think it's awesome because we need more people talking about health and fitness and we need more people to communicate about these things even though you know this was meant to be like kind of a funny spoof thing talking about the cold plunges and the saunas and stuff and maybe Joe Rogan has brought some stuff to us that maybe isn't that beneficial. But it seems to be, you know, seems to make him happy. And a lot of the

people around them seems to make them happy and seems to make them feel good. So it seems to be doing something good. Yeah. I just think it's, it's all of this stuff I think is beneficial as it helps people put kind of like the responsibility of their health into their own hands rather than it only being something that they have to deal with when they have to speak to a physician. And it gives them also more of a belief that they can they have control over their health outcomes because I do think that sometimes people just leave that to their doctors and it's one of those things where doctors are great but they can't they can't handle everything for you and it's one of those things where it's like we might as well try to make specific decisions in your life for your health so that

you don't have to visit the doctor as much and that's what a lot of the information that we learn here that he shares on his show it's what a lot of information will help you do is all of it relevant at the point in time. No, but some things have, like, a lot of things have been talked about early and have been shown to actually have benefit, like red light therapy. The years ago, that was something super fringe that there wasn't as much research on and people were like, ah, that's a scam, it's a fad. It's still here and it's more advanced and it's really helping people out. And there's more to back it up nowadays. And it's one of those things where it's like if you took part in it then, you've been reaping the rewards. And now a lot of people,

people are catching up to its benefits. So it's one of those things where it's like, again, I get where people feel like there's like so many fads and scans, so many fads and scams and stuff. But it's one of those things where it's like, you got to give some of these things a shot to just try to make a difference for your health in the long term. We got a little bit more because of jiu-jitsu and martial arts.

It's a vehicle for me. I'm using it. Well, we live weird lives too because most people can't, when we say things like, it's important to be healthy, but it's important to enjoy yourself. most people even can't have that conversation right like most of the population is just fucking grinding just dragging their bodies across broken glass and trying to like hand off just enough to their kids and then fucking collapse yeah heap of cancer that's most like oh yeah it's probably a great place to end it that's probably a great place to stop

a heap of cancer man wow there are people that have jobs that are like beyond anything that I can handle you know there are people that uh I have a good friend that he's He's alignment, you know, so he's going up on the polls for like PG&E and like messing with all that shit every day. You know, he's climbing up and down those all the time. Not only is to work physically demanding, but it's also mentally demanding because he's like kind of calling the shots and organizing things as well. And I usually meet up with him and we'll work out. He somehow, you know, works out like an animal. Yeah. For me, I'm like, you know, I've been eating throughout the day. I've been like rested for the day. I'm like ready to train, you know. Um, so it's different because

I'm not doing something like physically, but there are people that have jobs and have a lot of other shit going on in their life where, um, they can't just set up everything all the time around fitness. But again, that might be where some of our craziness, uh, is an advantage because you can kind of microdose some stuff. Bless you. Thank you. You can kind of microdose some stuff. Not everything has to be so torturous or so crazy all the time you could get home from a job and even though you don't want to like run or do something in particular you could just set a timer on your watch and just say hey I'm going to go do like an eight minute run and just see how far I can get and warm up a little bit see how far I can get in eight minutes you could do a you know you can

go on the aerodyne bike and do some intervals or something like that you know there's so many ways to get you know quick workouts in but I do admire the people that that have like the nine to fives and they don't just get to play fitness all day like we do. Yeah, but no, you know, that's the thing. It's, it's everybody has different aspects of their lifestyle. But the health aspect of things is something that I don't think anyone, nobody, nobody has the luxury of looking over it. Because if you do look over it, you're going to, you're going to get what comes your weight

potentially, potentially, you know what I mean? and no one wants to deal with that. So it's one of those things that's a semi non. You don't have to do it, but understand what happens if you potentially don't. Right. So you got to figure out something, no matter what type of lifestyle you have,

it's going to be easier than a Marxist and than it is for you. But at the same time, it's like you still got to figure it out for yourself. So what does your fitness practice? What does your health practice look like? The thing that keeps you out of the hospital for as long as possible, keeps you feeling healthy,

keeps you there being able to take care of your family, whatever your situation is, you got to figure out what that is. It could be so simple, but I understand it could be a pain in the ass. Yeah, you should also be taking care of your toes. Take care of those feet and don't forget about your fingers. Don't forget about training your neck. There's probably a lot of other things I'm missing in there. Wrists, don't forget the wrists.

You need strong, powerful, meaty wrists. Let's go. Strength is never a week. This week is never strength. Catch you guys later. Bye.