Mark Bell's Power Project - Are You Too Muscular To Move Well?

Episode Date: May 4, 2026

In this episode, Mark Bell and Nsima Inyang break down a hard truth for lifters: more muscle is not always the answer.They discuss why power, balance, mobility, coordination, speed, and the ability to move well may become more important as you age than simply chasing more size. From Larry Wheels sprinting, to jiu-jitsu, jumping, sprinting, isometrics, and the reality of stiff lifters getting older, this conversation is about building a body that is strong, athletic, durable, and capable.Special perks for our listeners below!🥩 HIGH QUALITY PROTEIN! 🍖 ➢ https://goodlifeproteins.com/ Code POWER to save 20% off site wide, or code POWERPROJECT to save an additional 5% off your Build a Box Subscription!🩸 Get your BLOODWORK/TRT/PEPTIDES! 🩸 ➢ https://marekhealth.com and use code "POWERPROJECT" for 10% off Self-Service Labs and Guided Optimization®.🧠 Methylene Blue: Better Focus, Sleep and Mood 🧠 Use Code POWER10 for 10% off!➢https://troscriptions.com?utm_source=affiliate&ut-m_medium=podcast&ut-m_campaign=MarkBel-I_podcastBest 5 Finger Barefoot Shoes! 👟 ➢ https://Peluva.com/PowerProject Code POWERPROJECT15 to save 15% off Peluva Shoes!Self Explanatory 🍆 ➢ Enlarging Pumps (This really works): https://bit.ly/powerproject1Pumps explained: https://youtu.be/qPG9JXjlhpM?si=JZN09-FakTjoJuaW🚨 The Best Red Light Therapy Devices and Blue Blocking Glasses On The Market! 😎➢https://emr-tek.com/Use code: POWERPROJECT to save 20% off your order!👟 BEST LOOKING AND FUNCTIONING BAREFOOT SHOES 🦶➢https://vivobarefoot.com/powerproject🥶 The Best Cold Plunge Money Can Buy 🥶 ➢ https://thecoldplunge.com/ Code POWERPROJECT to save $150!!➢ https://withinyoubrand.com/ Code POWERPROJECT to save 15% off supplements!➢ https://markbellslingshot.com/ Code POWERPROJECT to save 15% off all gear and apparel!Follow Mark Bell's Power Project Podcast➢ https://www.PowerProject.live➢ https://lnk.to/PowerProjectPodcast➢ Insta: https://www.instagram.com/markbellspowerproject➢ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/markbellspowerprojectFOLLOW Mark Bell➢ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/marksmellybell➢https://www.tiktok.com/@marksmellybell➢ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/MarkBellSuperTraining➢ Twitter: https://twitter.com/marksmellybellFollow Nsima Inyang➢ Ropes and equipment : https://thestrongerhuman.store➢ Community & Courses: https://www.skool.com/thestrongerhuman➢ YouTube : https://www.youtube.com/c/NsimaInyang➢ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/nsimainyang/?hl=e#PowerProject #Podcast #MarkBell #FitnessPodcast #markbellspowerproject

In the longevity space, everyone's talking about muscle, muscle, muscle. Research does show that decade by decade, as you get older, it's not the muscle that has the highest rate of decline. It's power and it's also balance. Maybe it's not in the best interest of everybody that has already been working out for a while to continue to have that be their main focus of gaining muscle mass. Shetting a little bit of muscle mass might not be a negative thing. It might be a fairly healthy thing. Let's start looking into coordination. let's start looking into maybe doing exercises better.

You're not necessarily searching for more muscle. You're not searching for more strength. You're actually searching for more ease. I think as you age, I think it's a good idea to see if you can kind of broaden your fitness and broaden your athleticism. You don't see obese older people like past 70. Just very rarely happens. But you also don't see older people, you know, past 80 that are, they look like bodybuilders very often. And, you know, an excess amount of muscle, it's not necessarily directly bad for you.

Do you think it's impossible to be like 70 or 80 and have like a ton of muscle mass? I mean, I don't even know if that's. I mean, we see some people who like have focused on it like Robbie Robinson. I don't know if Robbie Robinson's on gear or anything, but like he says he's not. He's still pretty lean and has a lot of muscle. Yeah, right. He's not like overly muscled. I wouldn't say.

No, he's not overly muscled at all. I think the people that like focus on it and do a lot of training towards it, you can see some pretty solid people. But like a lot of people, I guess, who are in Robbie Robinson's position, some of them didn't get there because they were trying to use gear to hold on to that muscle as they got older. And you know how risky that is as you get older. You know what I mean? So it's one of those things where it's like, it's tough.

Robbie Robinson, that's like what he does and how he trains. I don't think that dude does like extra running or no, you know, he probably does some cardio on machines and stuff because, you know, that's what he's probably been doing. But yeah. He still looks pretty healthy too.

He does. He looks like he looks like he would move well. I mean, I don't have any proof of this, but he looks like he doesn't look like he's all stiff. I've seen him at Gold's Gym before. I've seen him moving around. He doesn't,

he doesn't look like he's over the age of 60. And I think he's the age of 70. You know, he's still, still getting around pretty good. I think what Jud might be like referring to with some of what he's talking about here is like, maybe it's not in the best interest of everybody

that has already been working out for a while to continue to have that be their main focus of gaining muscle mass. And you might get to a point where shedding a little bit of muscle mass might not be a negative thing. It might be a fairly healthy thing. Is something, are we filming right now? I am recording.

We're recording. All right. Yeah. No, you know, and to what you mentioned, And to speak to primarily people who are power project listeners and power project listeners have probably been doing some level of strength training or hypertrophy training or something for muscle for a period of time, at a certain point, muscle loss is, is, takes work to happen. And you've got to wonder what other, I guess, capacities as my body have that I might be

missing out on because of the amount of muscle on my frame. Because let's think about this. You've been roasted for all the running that you're doing. But there's a reason why certain people roast you for the running that you're doing. Because they probably would have a lot of trouble running at their current size or with the amount of muscle they're holding. And inherently, there's an understanding that if I do want to get kind of good at running, I'm going to have to sacrifice a little bit of muscle.

It's something you notice with jiu-jitsu a lot. When I started jiu-jitsu, I was like 270, right? I was able to produce so much force. and I had all this power. But that was being nullified by people 100 pounds lighter than me. And I realized that it's not, my limiting factor here isn't me producing more force or having more muscle. It's becoming more technical. And if I want to be able to move like these guys, I realize that I need to shed a little bit of this size that I have if I want to become better at this sport, which I have over the years I've done.

So, you know, in the longevity space, everyone's talking about muscle, muscle, muscle. And this is good, especially for the people who like are new. and they haven't done much strength training. That's going to be really important. But research does show that decade by decade, as you get older, it's not the muscle that has the highest rate of decline. It's power and it's also balance. And if we think about that like balance,

like your balance gets worse as you get older, what are things that you can do not just standing on one leg but that improve your balance, reactivity, and coordinator of ability? because it's not just going to be doing the same lifting type of movements over and over with more weight, although that can be helpful. Yeah, power, balance, and then you also have mobility. You know, can be a big problem for a lot of people. And I'm not sure exactly what goes first if the strength goes first or the mobility goes first.

But I would imagine for people that are already strong or people that are participating in some lifting, that their mobility, they don't lose their mobility from lack of strength. They lose their mobility from maybe lack of getting into positions other than what they're doing in the gym. Yeah. And they're resting positions. I mean, a resting position,

how many times have people, you know, told you or I, they're like, man, this thing's really bothered me in like my neck. I don't know what it is. It's like, you know, I haven't done anything different with training. You know, I haven't, but then maybe they're on their, couch and maybe they are leaning to their left side with their and maybe their TVs tilted a certain way. It's like our resting positions. We sometimes forget about how important those are. So that's actually like a pretty easy one. Like maybe it's annoying, but to sit on your floor and to sit crisscross

apple sauce and to sit in different positions on the floor. Ryan, can you look on Amazon so people can see something called look at cross-legged office chair? For some reason people call these 80s. dhd chairs too which like i kind of get because it's a it's a chair that allows you to switch between a digit and move around but but you'll see what i mean um because one for my computer set up at home i actually have a small stool that doesn't have a back but i was trying to find something that i was like dang if i'm in this elevated position rather than just like taking my laptop to the ground which i do this is something that you can okay so if you go to some of these pictures let's see go down go down go down because there's

other better ones that go down. Yeah, click on that one on the far left because I think it'll have some pretty good images too. And look at some of the images of the person sitting if this one has any. Yeah, there we go. Let's take a look at that, click that image, click that image of the AI woman sitting in this chair because we know she's not a real person. You see how like you can sit cross-legged, you can kind of sit in the seza position. You can opt in for the backrest or not. But I think this is one way for like if you work in an office or let's just say your desk doesn't have the ability for your computer to put your computer on the ground, but you're like, damn, I need to work, right? This is a great option for you to kind of get your body in these positions because a lot of people can't even get themselves into a cross late position and have it be comfortable. So how about we challenge that?

And what's that's going to cause? It's not necessarily going to cause you to have to lose muscle, but it's going to have to teach you how to relax your tissues in certain. areas because it's not always, oh, I'm too big for this position thing. It's more so my body can't relax in this position thing. And that can allow you to get in those positions without always having to get on the ground. Yeah. And if you think about you lift, you run, you know, maybe some people sprint, you do all these different things and then you sit and then you lay down. But those are all things that don't really, they're, they're all pretty rigid. You know, they're all like, they're not really, they're not really asking you to like have internal or external

rotation of the hips. Your hips don't have to, well, when you're running, I'm sorry, there is internal and external rotation of the hips when you're running. But it's not getting challenged to the degree to the degree that it would if you just worked on sitting in different positions. Yeah. Which is kind of amazing. I mean, we see Judd here. He's sitting in a position. And the more options that you have for sitting, the better. I think your girlfriend's like pretty mobile. Like I remember she can do like really good squats and stuff like that. She can like sit naturally in a squatting position. She'll in the morning. But she can sit on the couch and her like knee can probably be like up by her face, right?

Easy work. Yeah. Easy work. And for me, I don't have as many options with sitting. And so I have to develop some of this. Yeah. You know, like, and for me, you know, I'm trying to go after stuff that I maybe, I don't even know if I ever had access to that.

So it's kind of exciting for me to work on some of these things as I'm getting older because they, they feel simple for me to get. Like I can feel differences already. Yeah. That are exciting. And it keeps me. gains. It keeps me motivated.

Yeah. You know, and so yeah, maybe like, maybe I do need to lose some muscle mass. Maybe I need to get off steroids, you know, maybe there's some things I need to do in order to get myself the healthiest or whatever it might be. But I do think that, you know, the stuff that we lose is we get older, it's very clear that you lose muscle mass, but it's also clear that a lot of people, Stan Effering, myself, there's a whole list of probably a lot of others. You got Jay Cutlers and people like that.

Dorian Yates, who have made a decision, right? Like we took a certain amount of drugs to do certain things. And, you know, some of those guys won like Mr. Olympia's and created great careers off of that, off of what we were doing, I guess, with the drugs that we were taking. Yeah. And then at some point you decide like,

okay, that was a good idea. for what I was doing at that time and that matched up well with everything. But now I need to like make a shift and now I need to be like more reasonable. I need to actually have like some sort of understanding that trying to be 300 pounds, 270, 260, it probably isn't the best for me as I get older. So I understand what Judd saying here about, you know, people in their 70s and 80s. I think that people that are that are 60, 70, and 80 don't want to be big anymore. They don't want to be like massive anymore.

There might be a couple mass monsters out there that want to live it all the way through as far as they can. Yeah. But one, it might kill you earlier than you would like if you have to take drugs to be able to do that, to take them for that long. And then secondly, it just might not be in your best interest because I think it's rare to see very heavy people, even if they're tall. I think there's some information about people that are tall, like people that are like six, five and stuff. I think they die sooner than people that are smaller. Centarians a lot of times are small. They are.

A lot of times they don't have muscle. But now we're starting getting to a phase where, who knows, maybe you live to be 100 and you're still holding on to a pretty good amount of muscle mass. So we didn't have some of the information that we have now. And so maybe these days, maybe we'll see people pushing into their 90s that have not like an insane amount of muscle mass to the point where it's detrimental to their like life. but they hold a good amount of like, quote unquote, natural muscle mass. Yeah, because like the information we, I guess we're working with now as far as longevity is concerned

in terms of how to take care of yourself nutritionally, the benefits that fasting has for your system and your digestion and like helping your body repair itself, all these things that people are putting to practice in concordance with exercise and resistance training. I think it's one of those things where now resistance training isn't just for the jocks and the people who are focused on building muscle. Everyone is now trying to do resistance training in the name of longevity. So I do think you are going to see bigger 70, 80, 90 year olds because these 70, 80, 90 year olds are thinking about resistance training to get to 70 80 and 90 years old.

It's a very different landscape. So the idea of like only small people become old, I think is a, it's a byproduct of, I guess, kind of the actions the general population used when looking at health, you know, exactly what you mentioned. But I think one thing that a lot of people may be asking themselves right now is like, okay, well, you know, it's easy for you two to say. And it's easy for Judd to say that losing muscle is going to help me be healthier. Because I mean, look at how much muscle you guys have.

I'm still trying to gain muscle. And I think that that's totally valid. But I don't think that we necessarily have to look at muscle gain in a vacuum of, like if I'm trying to gain muscle, it's the only thing my practice and my training has to focus on. You know, I think that sometimes what happens is we'll see training splits from Renaissance periodization or a different type of app and it's focused on, you know, hypertrophy and muscle gain and strength. And maybe there are a few cardio things added in there, but the goal, the peak goal is still muscle. I think one thing to try to figure out is, number one,

One, instead of having all these days in your week that are focused on dynamic joint ranges and getting these repetitions so you can gain muscle, what if you lowered that a little bit, right? And what this will do is like you'll still be able to give yourself an input for muscle gain, but you have more room to give yourself different inputs for what I like to call kind of like other aspects of your movement vocabulary. Because the amount of movements, like you just mentioned, the options you have to have. when you sit on the ground are less than my girlfriend Sam's. Sam can sit literally just go into a

squat from standing and relax there. I can't fully do that in a relaxed way, right? So she has more access than I do. So maybe other aspects of your personal practice are not just focused on let's gain muscle, but maybe there are things that incorporate a little bit of balance. Maybe there are things that incorporate aspects of rotation and reactivity and play and even some groundwork and maybe even some kicking or whatever. You know what I mean? Like things that are going to expand the necessities or pretty much the vocabulary that your body has because one thing, the way that I think you can think about this is, okay, right now you might try to throw a kick and wow, your hips feel super tight or your legs feel really heavy. What changes does your body need to make so that you can

then learn to kick efficiently with your running? What changes does your body have to make so that you can become a more efficient runner. In your case, it might be losing a little bit of muscle in certain areas. For the person who's trying to kick, it might be, ah, I need to actually maybe get a little bit lighter and maybe gain some mobility. And maybe just maybe my legs might need to be a tad smaller. But now you're able to do these things. You still have some muscle and you have a broader vocabulary of movement.

That's a win versus just seeking muscle, getting bigger. and that's kind of because like you see it right you see the people who are like that's all they seek and then you see how this shows with how they move through space right yeah and we we understand that like you know muscle is a metabolic sink you know muscle chews up glycogen muscle does a lot of things but there's some weird information out there too and i don't know if we can even really look this up but i forgot what it was but in comparison fat to muscle doesn't have the impact on on your metabolic rate quite the same way people might think. Because somebody who's obese is just, you know, quote unquote,

lugging around a lot of weight. And so someone that's, you know, 400 pounds, their metabolic rate is going to be very high. And they might not have ever trained a day in their life. They also might have a decent muscular structure from moving that body weight around. Yeah. But even when they don't have a crazy muscular structure, just think about if you had, you know,

150 or a 100 pound weight vest on all day, every day, that's going to be pretty taxing. So like we understand that muscle, you know, does all these other things. We understand what it can do for us. But like one thing that I've pushed back on a little bit about the muscle-centric vision that, you know, I think Dr. Gabriel Lyon has done a great job

getting that information out there about protein and about breaking down the protein in the body and gaining more muscle mass. I think it is really critical for people and it's very important and people getting stronger is very important. But I also think that when we had Cynthia on, faster over 40, talking about sprinting, like to me, that reaction time, I personally have to put, I have to put that above gaining muscle mass. Personally, for me, I think that that makes more sense for me to be able to react to something quickly, for me able to catch a ball or throw something or do something explosively and be able to produce a lot of force in like a short period of time, I'd almost rather get my body wired to that because I think that the connection to the brain and

I think the connection to health in being able to move your body through space quickly, to me that makes more sense that that would actually be maybe a little bit more healthy endeavor than just going after just muscular gain. And that's the thing. That's, that's a thing. That's developing a broader set of skills versus just hypertrophy, right? Did you ever watch that video I sent you where that guy was talking about speed isn't really speed? Did you watch? Yeah, that was interesting. Yeah. And I think this is a video that I think would be really cool for people to watch. Man, Ryan, can you type in speed isn't, or speed isn't speed on YouTube? I just want to see if it pops up because I'd love to be able to give people the reference of this video.

So some of the stuff the guy talked about in there was just like, I sense it to you, Marks. You know, sometimes when someone's slower than someone else, you know, in basketball, just foul them. You know, so, okay, so what, you're faster to me, but I, you know. Speed doesn't equal fast. I think this is a really amazing analysis on the idea of like, because he gave this example of you see a lot of these guys who are running four two 40s in the combine and you're like, that guy's going to be a phenom.

And they just, they're not. And then there's a guy that ends up having like, four, six, five, but he ends up being just like an absolute beast. And you're like, why? Why? This guy's not the fastest. But it's because of his ability to read plays, react to the things that are going on around him, make millisecond reactions in response to what's going on around him. And even though he's not the fastest, he's able to make the decisions to make plays that would, that typically, you'd think a very fast person needs to be able to make that play. But it's because of their analysis

of situations and using what they have to be able to make the right plays. You see this in basketball too, guys like a Luca Donchich, guys like a Kyrie Irving. Kyrie's quick and snappy, but Kyrie also makes these split-second decisions when playing with defenders. And one thing he mentioned with Kyrie that's, I think, goes into what you're talking about here with the idea of like being able to react and being able to be able to produce power. when you need it is Kyrie is, Kyrie has this ability of like a dancer. All NBA players have great movement ability. Some better than others because some are point guards and some are big centers.

So you'll see a disparity in terms of movement ability there. But someone like a Kyrie, you look at him, he's maybe six feet, six one, and he's dancing around these guys who are much bigger than him. And you're like, does Kyrie run the fastest? Like what is this about Kyrie? It's because his coordination of his body moving from one. place in switching directions is so high level. It's not just one capacity of speed. But when you watch Kyrie, you're like, wow, he's so fast. He's so fluid. That's what Kyrie is. He's quick,

but he's also super fluid. And I think that's one, that again, that's a capacity that we need to think about. Because when we're talking about muscle, inherently, we brought up this idea of stiffness, this blocky being muscular and stiff. Well, can you build in a level of fluidity in terms of everything you do because the, again, I love, I think you guys should just go watch this video because I don't wanna give everything away, but a big aspect of this video is that it's not just having the brutal, you know,

because we talk about getting faster and everyone wants to do speed drills, but it's not just about getting that high output speed, it's also being able to put all of it together to also look good and feel fluid while using that speed. That changes everything, especially in athletic context. No? Yeah, being explosive is is like critical, but then being explosive, you know, forward,

backward, lateral. Like, and then also being, uh, being smooth. You kind of forget that like that's a huge expression of athleticism is like acceleration, deceleration, and then making the guy think that, oh, he's probably going to accelerate and burn me. And then you go slower and then you go quicker out of nowhere. And then the guy's like, Holy crap. I remember playing football and I used to just do the same thing. Almost like we ran this like one play. He used to do the same thing every time. And I used to tell my coach we would laugh about it all the time.

I'm like, does nobody watch tape? Like it's easy to not get blocked by me, but I would knock the guy down every time. All I would do is stand up, pretend I'm going to pass protect, which that's what you would do. In pass protection, you stand up and the other guy stands up. And then I would just shoot down and hit his legs. It's fun on fake. That works every time. It works every time.

It's like ridiculous. But it's just a changing of like tempo. Yeah. The changing of and probably done a lot in Jiu-Jitsu to like take someone down. You this guy's probably going to do that and then he's probably going to do that based off of like the way that he's moving. And he's probably and you're trying to think like a couple moves ahead, but then the guy does something that's slightly unexpected.

The guy that you thought was maybe like heavy and big you thought that he was going to like muscle you and then he just did. I think that you're kind of known for that, right? You don't mind playing from the bottom, right? No, plain, no, I don't. So the terminology we use in jihitsu, you don't mind playing for the ball. Hey, now. Were you going to say something?

No, go ahead. You know, kind of also what you're talking about there. Because, okay, we're talking about all these things. And then we wonder, okay, this is all cool and all, but how's this trainable? I want to give another example real quick. I think another great episode for people to listen to is George St. Pierre talking to, he was talking to Thomas DeLauer recently. But I think I heard him say this years ago when he was talking to Lex Friedman.

And when he was talking about it was when he would fight people, he would give his opponents all these inputs. So it's like, boom, like fakes, fakes, fake, fake, fake. So I think we've talked about this before. To feed them so many inputs where it's like now he could do something and the opponent thinks he's going to do it. And boom, he goes for a kick, right? And the thing that he would try to do.

Overload. It's an input to the other person because they can't not see it. They've got to at least pay attention to it a little bit, especially if he waxy with one. Exactly. He's overloading them with a. information. So now they're second guessing the reactions that they have to take and they're like, oh, he's going to do it and boom, right? But when we think about what he's doing to them is he's

forcing his opponent to process tons of pieces of information. And at a certain point, they can't process more and he's free to do what he wants to do. And I think that concept of information processing is something that we can bring into our personal practice. And it's something that we don't really do when it comes to our practice. We're usually doing a single task, whether it's lifting a weight, whether it's pressing a weight, whether it's running. We're doing single tasks. And I'm not trying to tell people that now you need to go do some squats on a bowshoe ball because I think that's where some people's mind goes. And the bosa ball is a great tool. But I use that because some people might think that. But how can you make yourself do something that forces you to

process multiple pieces of information at once within your practice? Think about that, right? for me that's one of the reasons why I'll juggle while doing movements I'll do that maybe while squatting while walking while talking you ever see those little Asian kids like dribbling basketballs two balls at a time right and they'll do different patterns with one arm and the other arm right I'm like is that AI like what's going on here this is amazing but that's the thing that's the the funny thing is like some people might say it's not multitasking because like we already know that we can't necessarily multitask. It's the speed of switching between different things while making it be fluid, right? You're not multitasking, but you're switching tasks so quickly that over time,

it's almost like it becomes a single type of task, right? So that's why you want to try to do things within, because over time, this is one of those aspects of coordination that as you get older, you lose. When we think about losing balance, it's not that we just lose balance. we lose the ability for our body to process the information that the ground force is giving us the rest of the body. Right? So doing things that force you to process most pieces of information within a movement practice can keep this sharp as you get older and is just as important as having a lot of muscle.

It's interesting too because so much this stuff comes back to like having a rhythm or music, you know, like something like the drums. Like I don't have any experience playing the drums. but something like the drums, I mean, a friend of mine was just showing me this the other day. It's like, he was showing me this like particular beat. And then he's like, okay, just throw in one tap, you know? And it gets to be confusing real quick, you know? But then he showed me like a much simpler way.

He's like, okay, just do this, like back and forth. And then he, you know, showed me to do two at the same. Anyway, he just got me there a lot faster. Yeah. To what he was trying to show me. But it does feel like when you first start doing stuff like that, you feel like it's impossible. I don't know if anyone's tried to play the guitar, but man, you try to get your fingers. You're like, you're like, wait a second.

It's this hard for everyone when they start to like try to coordinate your fingers and to get them in these different spots. And it kind of hurts. Uh-huh. And it's, you know, like if you play for a while, like your hands cramp and your fingers cramp. And I know in jiu-jitsu, people are always complaining about the backs of their hands get all messed up. Handling, you know, heavy weight and powerlifting. It takes a long time to get used to those weights. Yeah.

It gets to be very scary. but over time, the impossible starts to become something that's the norm for you. And so if you have some patience with some of these things, dribbling a basketball or some of these things, they can really expand your horizon of the things that you can do. And then I would think that, like, if you expand the horizon of the options of exercise that you do, you don't really have to sit there and, like, worry or work on, you know, having this protocol to, like, lose muscle mass.

because you're going to be doing so many different things that you're not going to have as much time to dedicate to legs day to where you're going to have another hypertrophy workout. And I mean, one thing, again, the thing to think about is this, because I know everyone when it comes to us saying lose muscle mass, it's like, oh, I don't want that. But just because you decrease your frequency of hitting certain workouts doesn't necessarily mean that you're now just going to magically lose muscle. I mean, again, depending on where you are in your training, how many years you've been training, you still might gain similar or the same amount of muscle as you would have if you did all those sessions in a single week. It just might take you a little bit longer. But that takes you a little bit longer. And now you're building this breadth of skills, your balance, your coordination, your ability to process different pieces of information, your ability to get down on the ground and be in all these different

positions, building a level of comfort in positions that your body would have never been comfortable before as far as your mobility is concerned. Think about how much better of an older person you'll be because you've spent time building this broad set of like movement vocabulary versus I'm just focusing on muscle. You know what I mean? Like you're probably going to, you're probably just going to live a better robust life as far as movement's concerned because of it. oh, this video. Most of us have seen it within, we're watching a clip of Larry Wheels.

Most of us has seen it in our own family when you've seen your uncle or brother or like a relative. And you know, your eyes know like what good movement is somehow. Like it just knows it. And you one day just, you know, notice that your uncle or your father

or someone in the family is, they're no longer as youthful as they used to be. see them move or kind of hold their back as they go to get up or they're bent forward just a little bit and you're like oh man like you know they're they're they're getting older you know but if you're if you're 30 35 and you're training a lot and you know you are putting yourself in these positions you are compromising your body a little bit for the sake of like you know getting more jacked which is awesome um but if you're starting to feel stiff now imagine how stiff you're going to feel when you're 60 Like it's going to be if you're not doing anything to address it and I'm not trying to use scare tactics or anything

I'm just saying like you should think about how you're going to address it you should think about considering like whenever you go into any sort of business plan they talk about having a an exit strategy. What's your exit strategy out of power lifting or bodybuilding? Because are you lit? It's not saying you can't do it forever. There's people that compete in master's categories and they have fun doing it their whole life. But it would probably be good to still, for those people, add some other piece in there because you're going to at some point start to really, in my opinion, I think you're going to start to really lose some of your youth. And, you know, I think a hard thing with what you're mentioning there is I don't even know what I'm missing. Right.

Because if you've always been doing the same thing and let's say you've become pretty proficient at your program that you've been doing in the gym and nothing in your life really. forces you to kind of move in a different way because you maybe go to the same places, you go to the same workout. So nothing is demanding more than what you currently have. Then you won't know what you're missing until you try it and it's just not there. I think a lot of people, we've talked about this, but a lot of people find this when they go to try jumping after it's been a long time, right? There's nothing within their workout is forced them to jump. Nothing within life is forced them to jump. And then suddenly some kid is doing something or somebody does something and they have to hop and they're like, oh, God, like that, that feels iffy.

Now there's been a gap that, a movement gap that's been identified with because you attempted something, right? And I think that brings to mind then like not only do we want to, we don't want to have to see these gaps only when we attempted on accident and then something happens, right? So yes, bring back some level of jumping, jump rope, hop, do something, bring that back. But we can, then start to explore different activities that can show us even more gaps. For example, you see this video of Ashton Hall and Larry Wheels. A gap for Larry is going to be his full body relaxation because you can see he can't relax enough to sprint. Larry is more powerful than Ashton when it comes to lifts. Larry is stronger than Ashton when it comes to lifts. But to handle the

force of the ground and put it through his body in a relaxed way to propel himself through space, He lacks that. So it's not that Larry needs more strength. It's that Larry needs to probably do more things that allow him to work in those range of motions and actually relax those tissues over time, right? If he wants to unlock that ability for himself, but he would never have understood this if he never tried sprinting. I will never go to a doctor ever again about my general health. All they want to do is put you on pills. Really well said there by Dana White. Couldn't agree with them more. A lot of us are trying to get jacked and tan. A lot of us just want to look good, feel, good and a lot of the symptoms that we might acquire as we get older, some of the things that we

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might be doing that if you just adjust that, boom, you could be at the right levels, including working with your testosterone. And there's so many people that I know that are looking for, they're like, hey, should I do that? They're very curious. And they think that testosterone is going to all of a sudden kind of turn them into the Hulk. But that's not really what happened. It can be something that can be really great for your health because you can just basically live your life a little stronger, just like you were maybe in your 20s and 30s. And this is the last thing to keep in mind, guys, when you get your blood work done at a hospital, they're just looking at like these minimum levels. At Merrick Health, they try to bring you up to ideal levels for everything you're working with. Whereas if you go into a hospital and you have 300 nanograms per deciliter of test, you're good, bro.

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like you're not automatically, I mean, Larry Wheels is... A freak. He's a freak. he's an icon. He is one of the best strength athletes. I'd say athlete, strength athletes, that the world has ever seen. He's like, he's just one of the best. And he basically kind of stopped and walked away from it after he kind of ruled and conquered it, to be honest with you. And he unfortunately ran into like a pretty bad injury with Strongman. But I think he was going to do some pretty good stuff in Strongman. Maybe not to the tune of what we've seen, you know, Brian Shaw and some

those other guys do and Hapthor only because his structure isn't the same. Yeah. You know, those guys have a nasty structure that's hard to keep up with even when you are Larry Wheels. Which is crazy to say because like, oh, I saw Larry in person, bro. That's like density. That guy's crazy. That is something that you just have to see in person to really try to wrap your head around. Anyway. It's amazing. But, you know, for people to think, I don't like this video. I don't like how bad he got bashed. It's, it's very frustrating to me. It's not his focus. It's not his focus. I mean, how bad, how bad can you make me look with jujitsu? I mean, you can choke me out every which way you want. How bad can you make me look with climbing? Right. Right. You know, exactly.

Yeah. I mean, you're going, like, if somebody doesn't have a proficiency, you're going to be able to make them look horrible in it. Yeah. And so then people are like, you know, speculating all these things that Larry would need to do, but he would only need to do them if he desires to do this. Yeah. Now, you should be able to get yourself into a sprint, but I actually agree with, I think when you're, when you're certain ages, like go after shit with everything that you got. And if you like bodybuilding, you like powerlifting, you know, go after some of those things. Maybe think about some of what we're sharing here today.

but at the same time you know someone someone like a Larry Wheels has become you know he's become a legend off of off of the strength that he demonstrates and then people are just ripping him apart saying like you know he's on athletic

he's on this he's on that I would say he's unpracticed we've got to give the guy an opportunity you're giving him a chance he hasn't done these things I know that there's some you know dudes that can kind of get off the couch and do stuff but it's usually those are usually people that don't lift and those are usually people that have an extensive athletic background.

Larry Wheels when we had him on the show years ago, he explained he never went to like a normal high school. Yeah. He like lived with his mom and he like didn't play football or soccer. So he never, he never learned any of these things. Imagine how fast that motherfucker would be if he was sprinting when he was nine years old. He would probably be fast as hell. So it's just yeah, to me it's like, well, the guy doesn't do this stuff. And so of course he can be made look to fool. love doing this exercise. Give him some time. Because one thing that one people wouldn't expect Larry to be very good at is with how heavy he is, is calisthenics. But then when you see Larry start doing handstand pushups and then you see Larry pretty much, I think he achieved a planch pushup,

which is a pushup with no legs. You're like, wait up, you shouldn't be able to do that at 280, 285, right? So it's one of those, yeah, there it is. Right. It's one of those things where it's like they're there they're what you mentioned it's like your interest right for me personally you know when I look at different aspects of movement I'm interested to see what my body has to learn to be able to achieve said movements for me and calisthenics the answer for me isn't necessarily just getting stronger the answer for me is also getting a bit smaller I've been finding that as I've been slowly in letting my body weight just like travel down and not forcing myself to stay in the two 50s or or whatever. Aspects of calisthenics have gotten easier. Same with aspects of sprinting. Same with

even things in jiu-jitsu. Things feel better while I'm not holding as much weight. So this is why I'm choosing to stay and try to purposefully keep myself in the low 240s and maybe over time, maybe even the mid-230s that my body can get there. Because a lot of the activities that I want to improve at are going to be easier for me to achieve if I'm not holding so much weight. Right. And what I was going to actually mention here is like earlier we were talking about you might not even know what you're missing out on because you haven't exposed yourself to things that will show you you're missing those capacities then figure out ways to expose yourself to certain things that maybe you're kind of interested in but you're new to a lot of people after seeing Alex Honol do that thing on Netflix

they want to get into climbing and then realize how hard it is or how how tough it is at their body weight so cool maybe you realize I need to develop better strength to weight ratio and that might require you to not just do more calisthenics, but maybe to lose a little bit of weight, right? Because that'll open up different movement abilities for your body to be able to achieve versus just being heavy and having muscle. That's an interesting conversation right there, just even just losing weight so that you have access to new stuff. I think if you're 260, access to running is going to be harder.

It's going to be tough. Access to some hill sprints and stuff, probably not too bad. You can probably figure it out at 260, but it's still going to be harder. Yeah. at those heavier body weights, things are going to be tougher. I think that our image of like what a body's supposed to look like gets really warped. You know, you got mutants out there like Larry Wheels.

You have a lot of people with a lot of impressive physiques. And we kind of just lose sight of the fact that like George St. Pierre has like the most optimal, most healthy lookingish body that you're, you know what I mean? Like if you can, George St. Pierre has a phenomenal physique. So I'm not saying that he's got some like. like average build. But what I'm saying is that if you can aspire to have that physique, that's incredible.

You know, give or take, you know, some body fat, give or take some muscle mass. But like what would George St. Pierre, like what are some things that he would be lacking?

You know what? He was like 180 something. Yeah, fluctuated between 188 and 200. And he's like, he thought he was 170. He's like six foot maybe? Five,

11, maybe somewhere in there. But I mean, you ever see that guy, you know, kick? Like he can, you know, his legs go, you know, he's, he looks mobile. He just, we all have discrepancies. We all have deficiencies. So I'm not even saying that he's got the most ideal. But I would think that that is a physique of longevity.

If I was trying to think in my head of like, what would be the thing? Like if you're going into your 60s or 70s looking like that, you're probably going to be pretty well off. And if you have a little bit more muscle than that, then maybe it'll be a little bit more beneficial. Yeah. But if you're like 265, I don't really, I don't really think that that's going to be any more beneficial. I don't think that that is going to be any sort of fountain of youth.

And, you know, one thing, too, is like, yes, we can, you can see it. Like, you can look at two bodies and you can probably be like, if I'm putting money down, I think that 190 body will live longer than that 265 body. If you're putting down money for sure. But then I think the the overarching metric to think about is like, what can the body do? Because let's just say for some reason, that body that was 265 is able to do what the body that is 190 is doing. So they're able to kick.

They're able to climb. They're able to run. They're able to sprint. If that body is able to handle all those forces, then we can probably assume that that body is going to do just fine. The thing is it's going to be very, very difficult. It's got a 265 pound body to operate in the way that 190 body, that 190 pound body does. But if you have in your head of, I want my body to be able to do these things.

And at the end of the road, what form does my body take to do these things? That's, I think, kind of how you can get yourself to that longevity, I think, ideal, right? Because now thinking about it, it's like if my body can balance well, if I have a great reactivity, if I can hold my body weight and climb and have a level of control, if I can kick, if I can get down and up early, get down and up off the ground, if I have a decent level of muscle mass, if I can sprint, run, hop, if I can do all these things and you're still 220, you're still 210, if you can do all those things, you're in a good spot, really, like you're in a really solid spot. But if you find it extremely difficult to do those things and you're 215, 220,

let's think about building those capacities and see what the body turns into to achieve it. Let's, can you bring up that 81 year old guy that did the 200 and 200 meter and 29 second? Just kind of give people a glimpse of his physique because he has muscle. You know, he's a sprinter. Yeah. And so a sprinter is going to be able to hold on a muscle at 80. years old have your arms like that. It's pretty damn good, I think. That's pretty impressive. And then you can see he's not like shredded. He doesn't have like

he's not like, you know, 5% body fat or anything crazy. He's got some legs on him though. Yeah, he's got some meat on the bones. And I think that, you know, this. Good meat. Yeah, yeah, some good meat. But it would be interesting to know like how does that guy move? How does that guy get up and down off the ground at 81 years old? It's probably still hard even though he's able to have that out. put out on the track and sprint and stuff. And especially in comparison to maybe when he was younger.

Yeah. That would be interesting to kind of like learn. Well, was that was that, that was AI? He was like, damn, that looks good. Yeah, he's really flowing with this beautiful movement. But I mean, anyone who's, you know, maybe some people haven't been to a track, but just go and go and try 200 meters and 30 seconds. It ain't easy. It's not easy at all.

It's going to be tough. but, you know, what are the inputs that you can have to allow your body to still be fit and to still be strong? Obviously, sprinting is a great one. We talk a lot about hill sprints. You don't have to sprint 200 meters or 400 meters. You can sprint much shorter distances and still get a ton of value out of sprinting. But I kind of think that, you know, between the ages of like 20 and maybe like 40 or maybe even 50, that those are the years to maybe push some weights

and those are the years to maybe like build yourself up if you want to, if that's something that you're into. And maybe those are the years to like to gain and to be big. And I think after that, I think you start to work on coming down that other side of the mountain and maybe you start to have different goals. We've seen Stan Efforting. We've seen some of these guys go into powerlifting later.

You know, I think Stan broke an all-time world record in powerlifting at like 45 or 40, or 42 or something like that. So it wasn't like he was super young when he, I mean, he broke an all-time world record that stood for like 30 years in the sport of power thing. So not everyone has to follow that exact same blueprint,

but I think something to that nature makes sense to me that you would work on this like outward structure of the body and then at some other point you would start to work on maybe how the body feels internally. And I'm not saying that you're not mixing the two ever. I'm just saying that maybe this is the way, like that's, at least that's been my experience. That's been the way that my path has gone and I would like to be able to do more stuff with like my brain and more stuff with my eyes and more stuff with coordination as I get older.

Mark, I have a question. I'm really curious about your thoughts on this since like you have seen so many more guys that have had these outcomes. but it's really made me think about how I structure my resistance training as I continue to get older. I'm by no means old. I'm 33 years old, right? But you know, you see guys who have really, really pushed things hard, like a legend, like Ed Cohn. But you also see guys who, like, at some point, they just end up getting a hip replacement or a knee replacement. And it's made me really think about the idea of your joints having some level of mileage from shearing stress over time. Shearing stress, let's say the knee goes to full deep knee flexion and then back

into its full extension state, right? And it's made me wonder like, okay, well, you know, when you see a lot of lifters, they push, they push, they push, sometimes a hip replacement ends up happening or a dual hip replacement or a knee replacement. But that's one of the reasons why I've added so much isometrics into what I do. Not like I never not do dynamic work going full range of motion in terms of squats or whatever or presses. But I have a lot more isometric works overcoming and yielding isometrics on rings with the squat max, with that isofit device I use. And the reason why I think it could be so beneficial, not just for athletes that are my age,

because I'm still young, but aging athletes and older athletes is because with an overcoming isometric, actually, let's just talk about a yielding isometric. And a yielding isometric would be like, let's say that you squat a weight and then you hold at a certain position. Or you're on a, I like using the squat max and you go down and you go into like a hip position here. Just holding yourself. You're not up against any extra resistance. Exactly. You're, you're, you are yielding against that. load is trying to build you down, bring you down, and you're stopping the load from pushing you down, right? You're still getting a good, if you do it for a good amount of time, right,

let's say 40 seconds or something, you're still getting a good amount of muscular contraction. There's going to be a high level of joint stress because now the joint is also being stressed in whatever position you're in, but the joint doesn't have to move dynamically full through the full range of motion. So the joint and the cartilage around the joint and the collagen around the joint are getting reformed, so the joint's getting stronger. but you're now minimizing the shearing force that you're having to go through.

So compare it to like, let's say a few times per week, you do squats, three sets, eight reps going all through that range of motion. Now you minimize that, but you still get high muscle stress. You still get high joint stress without all the shearing load. I think about that long term being able to do that for a longer period of time because you see people, as they get older, they're like, oh, my knees don't want to go through that full range of motion anymore. And you don't want to tell them like, then don't do that range of motion.

because you should try to access it. But that shearing stress can definitely be problematic. And it makes me think like your joints do seem to have a level of mileage. And the more dynamic work that we stress ourselves out with in the name of muscle gain, maybe the sooner a replacement might be within our purview, right? And one other thing I want to mention is like people probably have different mileages for their specific body than others. Because some people, I mean, there's probably been some people you see that

have had crazy powerlifting days and they're like still older and nothing, nothing wrong has happened. So I don't want to put this curse on people. I don't want people to like think about this. But it makes me wonder like there has, there seems to be a level of mileage when you go through those ranges of motion so much. And it's not like it's bad, but we should manage it is my thoughts. I think one of the issues is that the gym is so different in life.

You know, the gym is. different than the like, you know, sitting on the couch for 15 minutes and then getting up. The constant, like, lifting weights is very much centered around a lot of concentric movement. There's an eccentric to it, but the eccentric, you usually kind of blast through it. And the concentric, you're actually, like, a lot of times trying to blast through it. Some people even kind of teach or coach that. You're trying to. And I'm not saying like just slowing down is necessarily the answer.

What I am saying, though, is that yielding forces is a part of real life. Isometric and isometrics and even like a contraction following an isometric is critical. I think there are some people that will say that sprinting isometric. A lot of things are very eccentric. I've used the example before. Like, you know, what athlete comes in here that could, without, without hesitation, hop up on this table and jump right down from it. And not only jump down from it, but like jump up in the air down from it.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Like who's strong enough to handle that shit? I'm not saying that that's a great practice to like, you know, jump off of shit that's like really high. You could potentially mess yourself up. But the people that can handle that, a lot of times they're able, they have built a lot of resilience in their body and they most likely have kind of practice stopping and starting, like they, it would be so rare for someone to be able to do that completely out of

nowhere. Like I can't even think of, I can't think of one person that I know that could like come in here and just do that randomly. It has to be, the only people I can think of that can do it are very well-trained people that train themselves from many different angles. Yeah. And so I think that those are things that we want to consider when we're training. And that's exactly what we're talking about here today. We're not talking about like being like, oh man, I, you know, I want to lose a bunch of muscle and I want to be healthier. That's not really the message. The message is that for some people that have been strength training for a long time, you're probably about as strong as you're going to be. You're probably about as muscular as you're going to be. So now let's start looking into

coordination. Let's start looking into maybe doing exercises better. Let's start looking into doing exercises easier. What's wrong with growing through a circuit where you're just nasal breathing the whole time and you're not resting a whole lot? You know, things like that. Oh, dude. You know, that idea making exercise is easier. The interesting thing is like I think when we think about exercise and training, there's the idea of like it has to be progressive, has to get harder. We have to add more load, right? But the idea of finding a level of ease within the movements you're doing, like how can I make, if you're squatting, how can I make this squat somehow become more efficient or feel easier. And the initial answer might just be get stronger, but maybe another answer

is having better coordination with the practice, because when I think about what you were talking about with jumping up on the desk and then jumping off and then landing, it's not just having the power to propel yourself up there. It's also when you land on that table, can you relax down into position and gather that force, right? And then jump back up and when you hit the ground, relax, gather force in like when you see someone do it efficiently, they almost look like it took no effort because they're able to handle that force through their whole structure rather than it being oh like you know what I mean you see how I just landed where it was like older person coming down off of a high curb you know they got to kind of like throw their elbow they got to like

kind of move their body in a way that helps them to absorb that force and even then they can barely absorb the I'm not trying to make fun anybody but just that's what happens sometimes when people are older and become more frail the higher curb which we have a bunch of them here in Davis I don't know why some are so high, but you go to walk down from one of those steps and every once in a while, like, I've had it happen to me even where I'm like, oh, like, it felt weird. Yeah. And at some point, I'm like, that's some shit I should address. Like, what is that? Okay, that's not a leg press. That's not a belt squat. That's not a box squat. That's not any of these other movements that I'm doing. This is this is unique, you know, and I need to figure out ways to be able to handle some of these yielding forces.

And so force absorption. In a lot of my training, I do a lot of stuff like that. More recently, I've been doing like jump, you know, scissors lunges type thing. I've been doing like static holds with lunges. And I just been, I think Ryan might have filmed some of these. I've been doing some like random jumping. Like I'll just go on a walk.

I'll just start like jumping. I'll just hop on one foot and hop on the other foot and land. Like you wouldn't think that it would be hard. But when you haven't done it a long time, jumping on one leg four or five times in a row. Yeah. Kind of freaking hurts. Yeah.

You're like, holy shit. Why does that hurt? And then I got to ask myself, hey dude like you used to think you're strong you can can't even jump on one foot and then land on the same foot like get out of here this is unacceptable so let's work on this But that's the coolest thing about it because you're not necessarily searching for more muscle. You're not searching for more strength. You're actually searching for more ease. You want this to feel like nothing.

You don't want this to cost you anything. And at some point, it's not going to cost you anything. You're going to be able to just do that and it's effortless, right? But it's like that's your training for that to be easy. And it's not you squatting more or leg pressing more or leg extensioning more that's going to cause that. it's by you doing these easy things that you can do anytime, anywhere you don't need a gym for and it's just part of your movement practice now. It's kind of fun too.

Yeah. You know, and you feel dorky and you feel uncoordinated. I mean, sometimes I'm just like this video, I'm just picking these cracks. I'm trying to like jump from one thing to the next. But again, if you haven't done these things in a while, you're going to look the way that Larry wheels looked when he was sprinting. And are you willing to look that way? Yes.

Or are you not? You got to be willing to look. You got to be willing to look that way. You didn't look so good your first day at jiu-jitsu practice, right? Hell no, dude. It's getting destroyed by everybody, right? I'm still happy I have that session up on YouTube. It's still on my YouTube channel, you know.

But why would you be good at it? I don't know why we expect that we would be. I was thinking, I was, dude, first day I know I was like, I'm with you. I'm going to be all right, you know, and I wasn't. I wasn't. Yeah, why would you look good sprinting when you don't do it often? Why would you look good doing any of this stuff if you haven't really been practicing it. Yeah. Yeah. So, I mean, you really got to, I think one of the hardest things, too, about this is the

mindset of it. Because the mindset is I am going to look for gaps within what I do. And no one wants to find gaps within what they do. Because like, it's comfortable to stay comfortable, you know, with what you're doing, which brings me back to that Rip-a-toe episode. God, that'll always hit my heart. You know, will we keep doing those things? But the thing is, is like, if you never do anything that shows those gaps, you're not really going to get better. And then you're going to be older with bad balance or a bad back or bad knees or whatever. And it's something you could have addressed way earlier.

I think sometimes we get addicted to it. You know, you get addicted to it. And you're like, this is the thing I can post. And then maybe even like, I've noticed for myself sometimes when I'm working on stuff, it was like, I won't talk about it for a while. because I'm like, this is private. This is for me. I'm embarrassed.

I'm not that good at this. And I'm not even going to bother to really show much of it yet. Sometimes I'm like, you know what, I should probably show people me looking weird and awkward. So sometimes I'm okay with putting stuff out. But a lot of times I'm like, no,

this is just me practicing this for now. Yeah. And it's going to take me a while. It feels impossible right now. But I know that with a little bit of work, it's just going to be normal. Whether it's like diet or anything that I really tried, eventually,

some things that you abandon because you're like, well, maybe I'll never get the hang of it. And that's fine. I don't think that's a big deal either. But implementing some of the stuff I've been implementing, it doesn't feel like people might think that you and I are always like adding, adding, adding, and we kind of are. We're adding a lot of stuff in. But there's some silent subtraction going on in the background. And the silent subtraction is we don't do the same amount of volume for like our arms.

We don't the same amount of volume for our legs. Yes, we probably both, you know, train our arms like one. once a week and probably get some tricep work and some bicep work in because it's easy and it's fun. It's great to bro out. But there's not like the dedication of like I need 12 sets, you know, two times per week for my biceps and for my triceps, you know. It's not that kind of load that if you were bodybuilding and someone said, hey, your peaks and they need to be a little bit better.

That would be your focus and your food would be centered around. Like everything would be centered around that. But I think as you age, I think it's a good idea to see if you can kind of broaden your fitness and broaden your athleticism. And then you don't have to really worry about holding on as much muscle mass because I don't think that holding on to tons and tons of muscle mass is necessarily a thing that's really healthy. Especially, again, if we're talking about someone that's natural and someone's naturally trying to hold on to muscle mass in their 40s and their 50s and stuff like that, it probably makes sense. For them to try to hold on, it was much muscle mass within reason as possible. There's some outliers, some people that are pretty big. But, and then for people that are on gear, like, they definitely need to either consider, like,

not being on gear anymore, which is out of the question for everybody, right? Or downsizing to some degree in some way. Yeah. Strength is never a week. This week, this is never a strength. Catch you guys later. Bye.