Mark Bell's Power Project - Are You Training Hard Enough? Nick Bare Doesn’t Think So || MBPP Ep. 844

Episode Date: November 29, 2022

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If it doesn't kill me going in, it's going to make me stronger. I don't think I'm not going to disagree with you. If it doesn't kill you going in, you can kill something going out. But that hot soup might have something different to say. Oh, man. Spicy soup is. I was suffering this morning. Pepe soup might have something to say. Oh, man. Spicy soup is. I was suffering this morning. Pepe soup, if you guys have never, if you guys don't know what pepper soup is, it's like a West African dish.

Just really fucking spicy soup with like either oxtail or goat meat. And we had that during Thanksgiving. Oh, that sounds so good. It is. It is. Sam tried it and she literally had a spoon and my mom made sure to put a little less pepper in it and Sam was still like I can't I can't it's too spicy

so I ate it yesterday and this morning I was in so much pain because it tastes great but then it like sits in the pit of your stomach and you have to shit that out so I was yeah it was it's been a rough morning it's a detoxification I think

clearing you out I think there's a detoxification i think i think it's clearing you out i think there's a lot of really cool like ingredients in in uh in nigerian dishes because we we ate a few um during thanksgiving and it's like they're just the taste is just so different from anything here and all the types of spices they use because they went to nigeria and you know brought a bunch of spices back it's just it's interesting so interesting that's cool is there a lot of uh are there a lot of like soups is that kind of common there's a lot of soups um there's this thing called fufu which is uh it's a pounded yam that they'll they'll eat it with their hands but they'll they'll take it dip in the soup and eat it like that right they have a lot of stuff like that a

lot of different rice like someone would use uh bread to soak up soup kind of thing, right? Exactly, exactly. But they eat a lot of that stuff with their hands. But it's a potato. Yeah, yeah. It's a mashed, pounded yam. That sounds awesome. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

If Andrew looked it up, you'd see. But it's just— Do you get super pumped when your mom cooks? Fuck yeah. Yeah, because it tastes different. And it's just – it would be so interesting. Can you go to like a Nigerian restaurant or not really? There are some.

There are some here. Does it work? Is it pretty good? Some places are pretty good. But – You want to see how Andrew and I would respond to the goat meat? I needed my mom to make some pepper soup, and I needed to bring that in to see if you guys could,

like if you guys even could have a few spoonfuls. I mean, I could probably have some, but I don't like that on the way out. So that's why I was telling you, like the bidet, it like creates steam, you know, when it's really spicy back there and you just, like, cool it off with the bidet. Because without that, dude,

I'm done. Like, I can't come back from this. I like spice a lot, but sometimes, like, you ever see the, you ever see the, the thing where the guy interviews the guys eating wings?

Hot ones. Yeah, hot ones. Yeah, hot ones. That looks so brutal. Like, some of those wings, to a certain point, I mean, you just get like your snot and your saliva and like the stuff in your eyes. Like everything just starts kind of all going together. It gets to be too dangerous. There's also this thing called bitter cola.

And it's this nut that like you shave off the skin and it's extremely bitter. Oh, okay. It's like so bitter, but people like snack on it. Like my grandma always used to snack on it. My mom snacks on it. And it's just like, it's extremely bitter. But it's like those types of things within the palate that like you just won't see in the United States. Like you won't see someone here eat something so bitter because it's a snack.

But that's a snack for a lot of people over there. You know, it's pretty cool. I'll bring some in. We'll have it on air. Yeah. This is the thing that we're, we,

um, it's been really cool that, uh, and SEMA has been able to set up with these guys and get them to sponsor the show. Um, I'm really, I'm really excited to get that airway to open up a little bit better for sleep.

Yeah, just for sleep. And for running. I mean, sometimes I'm running and if I'm doing sprint intervals or something like that, I'm going to have to not just nasal breathe, right? You've been using it for the past two months and I've noticed that your masters here have gone thicker. Yeah. You know what I mean?

They're getting bigger. It's been pretty wild. I can open up my mouth pretty wide. You guys would be shocked. Really? Yeah, i think you'd be surprised is it widening the throat yeah the whole canal yep okay that's good it's good you want that what's this thing called it's the suckter 3000 bad idea i don't know have you guys ever seen the jaws or size thing yeah they're like going to town on it dude so let's just say that something like this did work so is he blowing in but is he like sucking and blowing sucking

in blowing though man just play an instrument you want me to put the uh just get a fucking get a goddamn saxophone yeah I'm doing this shit. Also, that looks like Alpha M's face that they use in the thumbnail. It definitely is. Right there? That's Alpha M, yeah. Can you even explain what's going on for the audio side? It's a chin exerciser? There's an Asian man with glasses who is blowing into a device, sucking and blowing into it,

so he could train his jaw. It's almost like he's starting to blow up a balloon, but the thing that's in his mouth is much wider than the base of a balloon. But he's sucking, though. It's the opposite of the balloon blowing. He's inhaling the balloon. We got to get this device. We need three of them.

I was actually telling Andrew, I purchased a clarinet again because I used to play it as a kid because I wanted to like. Which one's a clarinet? Can you bring that up? I don't remember those. You know what Squidward plays? How do you spell clarinet? Oh, it goes sideways, right? No, that's a flute.

Clarinet. Squidward plays a clarinet. Straight clarinet. Dude, shit no that's a flute oh clarinet clarinet straight clarinet dude shit like that's impossible this one's like to blow into stuff like that and make beautiful music yeah so with this one it has a reed so you got to get the reed all slobbery yeah gotta lick it a little bit yeah and then yeah yeah yeah i guess there are some tricks to that yeah that kind of stuff's incredible. Or like a saxophone. Like that shit's hard.

Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'm going to buy a sax in a few months, but I wanted to get my fingers wet again with the clarinet. It was pretty cool. My fingers remembered what to do. So now I just got to learn reading music again a little bit.

That's pretty easy. And we'll be Squidward. What's the deal with this account? What's with this Explore page? Oh, okay. No, it's the same one from the sucking and blowing. Yeah, Mike,

what's Andrew's page going on here? Yeah. There's like titties on there and stuff. Oh, man. Andrew, bro, what's going on?

What do you mean? So what's this clip that you saw with, you saw Nick Bear and Zach Talander, I think, talking, right? Yeah. It's on YouTube?

Yeah, it's on YouTube. Just go to Zach's page. It's a recent clip. It is pretty funny in the comments, but I don't want to ruin it for people. I think Andrew will be able to find it fast enough, but Nick and Zach were talking about the way fitness

influencers train. And Nick wasn't having any of it. Nick wasn't having any of it. Nick Bear likes to go crazy with his training. And you sent me that clip the other day of him running that mile and like what 453 yeah 453 yeah he was 194 at the time that was sick and that was like two years ago yeah

that was a while ago yeah i don't know where it would be just play from the beginning oh you don't need to play the whole thing but yeah our boy zach he's coming back. He can't get rid of him. I don't consume much. But I would say the thing that I dislike is the smoke and mirrors. That is the curation. Portrayed. Calling everybody out. I love it. I have trained with other people in the fitness space.

And within two minutes of work, I'm'm like have you ever trained in your life before is he talking about me it's like a lot of it's like you think you see you think you know one thing and then it's all bs and bullshit and that's why i've created like this really tight bubble like the way you kind of describe it, like there's this really tight bubble. And for me, that bubble was like everything in the BPN footprint or like all my time, energy resources is spent on the people in this building, the people that this business touches and works with and like the operations that we have going on here. And I'm not trying to like create some smoke and mirror bullshit. Right.

Facade. So, so this is, I was thinking about this on the way here. Hold on a second. I went down to Austin, Texas. I don't went down there and I lifted and Nick was there.

And he was there. He was there. He was in the other room and I was in the gym. And then later on, i went to go run i ran with a bunch of people and guess who wasn't there nick bear nick bear oh shit nick bear must just think i'm the biggest pussy in the world it's like i ain't wasting my time working out with mark he's got no intensity smoking mirrors is there more to it or i think zach said something pretty interesting here very real quick even if all you did was curate meaning you weren't actually training that hard the things that you're doing in those curated videos

would either require a lot of training or even if they stood alone by themselves would add up to a lot of training does that make sense yeah so there are some there are some people like where this gym that i go to here they come in they'll do a couple warm-up sets they'll pull out the tripod their a7s3 and um i love that he knows they will uh they'll they'll record their top set and move same thing boom boom boom move 30 minutes of really not stressful work at all get in their car and go home they got over a hundred thousand followers can you pause this real quick were you talking about you and Sima yesterday after podcasting yesterday after podcasting

Sam and I went on a hike yesterday so I'm like ooh my traps feel a little weird I go to the cable machine do something real quick do something real quick with the other hand do something real quick I'm like I'm out and then I leave that's great

he has a good point i mean like uh so obviously there's people like larry wheels and we've talked about this before i i was always completely uh astonished every time i saw larry wheels do something not because i was like shocked that he was strong i was shocked that he had all these capacities for strength in so many different ways. Almost without, like, it seemed like it's without training sometimes. Like some of the stuff he would do, obviously, like when he did a bench press or something, you're like, oh, Larry's been a good bench presser for a pretty long time.

So that makes sense. The squat, the deadlift. But then it started getting to be crazy. He would do like a curl. He would do, maybe he'd fucking jump over something or he would pick or he'd start doing strongman stuff and you're like i know he's strong but for him to jump into strongman and start to move around uh boulders with hapthor bjornson like that's pretty fucking wild yeah he has an amazing base level of strength you know what i

mean so he could like pick up literally anything because he's built that base level. But the interesting thing about this is when you – we were just talking a little bit before this because we were thinking like how hard do you need to train? I know it's context specific, specific for what you're trying to do right but we've been training for a long time and to build the amount of muscle we have now it it makes you wonder did we need to train that intensely to get this amount of muscle or could we have done it with less stress right because to maintain the muscle it's not that difficult you don't need as much training volume to maintain a decent amount of strength and muscle you need more to gain more that difficult you don't need as much training volume to maintain a decent amount of strength or muscle you need more to gain more muscle but you don't need to train as hard to maintain what you've built right so i don't know because the way you see some people train sometimes

it's like you might not need to go that hard the context is definitely a big part of it because i wonder like how hard did nick bear have to train after he uh did his last marathon training it might have been food recovery um a little bit of gym time and boom he might have put on 25 pounds not running as much and and didn't look any fat or just looked like more way more jacked you know so it definitely depends on your previous history. I think for some guys that have a history in their, you know, in their background of they did lift heavy at some point and they lifted intensely and lifted probably with, you know, maybe five years or so of pretty good knowledge. A lot of those people can coast in my opinion. I think they can. I think they can

kind of coast if they're not looking to like build more muscle they're not looking to look more insane uh then i think they can kind of just chill yeah um i ended up training with some guys from my jiu-jitsu school um and we were working uh we did some cable sissy squats so a different stimulus than they're used to they're like we're used to hurting kind of all over. Now we're hyper-focused on this one muscle that is really sore now. And one of them, he had said this morning, he's like, yeah, I thought we were going to do like a lot more sets there. So I was dreading it.

And I was like, well, what benefit would it have done if we just did like 10 sets? We only did four. I was like, if we did 10 sets and you'd still be wrecked today and you probably wouldn't be able to put in the effort so i think where i know i went wrong is i would just do too much because i'm like no i gotta i gotta crush it i'm too skinny i need to work really really hard right now but that took away so much from the next day and the next day that i couldn't hit the next the following workouts with as much energy. So if I had maybe chopped a little bit of that down,

I could have hit the next couple of days with the same amount of intensity versus a 10 today and then a 4 tomorrow and a 2 the next day and then try to go for another 10 and hurt myself. So I think that's where I personally went wrong with it, going too hard. Yeah, I wonder, do you guys think you need to be sore or do you think you need to have just maybe done a little bit more than you did last time? Like, or just, uh, or maybe not even either one of those, just create a stimulus. That's yeah. You know, that's the thing though, because all of us at this point, we are doing multiple things. You know what I mean?

If I didn't have jujitsu, I would be going way harder with the gym because, uh, when I train in jujitsu, uh, after I'm done, I'm tired. Like I've done multiple roles. I've sweated.

I've exerted a lot of energy. Usually on the same day, I've done something in the gym, but I haven't gone so hard in the gym that I couldn't do jujitsu. Now, before I started jujitsu, my gym training was much harder because for me personally, I need something that allows me to exert in that way. It's just nowadays, I don't need the gym for that level of exertion. So I'll still get a good workout. I'll still get good

stimulus for what I'm trying to improve at, but it's not kind of killing myself like I used to, right? And I mean, I've still been able to maintain and gain new skills over the past few years in the gym. So I'm wondering, I think it's kind of the same for you because you've been running for a while now, but if you didn't have running, your workouts would probably be kind of different, right? Yeah. For a little while, I just got rid of lifting altogether. And then now I kind of put it back in. I mean, there was tiny bits of lifting, tiny bits of like sled stuff. But yesterday when I came in here, I did some belt squats and I worked my way up to around five plates. And as I was building up, I was doing some pause reps,

doing some isometric and stuff and all I'm thinking about is like, how do I just create a nice stimulus in the legs to where I think that this is going to benefit me later on when I go and run and when I run tomorrow and the next day and so on. But also, it's not going to leave a mark. It's not going to leave me banged up.

So I got to those five plates. I did the five plates. I did probably like 20 reps. It was a really good, felt like a really good effort. Squats were high. They're, you know, above parallel squats on the belt squat felt really good. Didn't hurt anything in my back. Didn't hurt anything in my legs. Just felt awesome. Later when I went to run, because I also did some sled drags and stuff too, I felt that when I was running. I felt like there was a little energy drained from the legs, but there wasn't any extra soreness. There wasn't any extra tightness.

Whereas the previous week, I went too hard. I did too many sets. So I only did one top set yesterday. The previous week, I did like three top sets because just because it was feeling good. I was like, this feels fucking great. And I got excited. And then when I went to run, I was already tight. Then that night I couldn't sleep because my legs were just bothering me so much that I couldn't, I couldn't fall asleep. The next day when I went to run, my legs felt like they weighed a million pounds. And so for me, it's like, at this point I have to be really conscious of, uh, you know, I guess over training,

whereas before I would just always go kind of nuts on that. And I would just accept the soreness because I didn't have any, I didn't, it didn't matter how it didn't matter how I got up off the couch, you know, but now it matters how I'm running and how I move the rest of the day. Well, that's the thing. That's the thing you have to think about when you are trying to really improve out multiple capacities for a lot of people. Like right now, if you, if some of you guys are doing running and you're lifting, you need to be more cognizant of what you're doing in the gym because you do know that that will impact your running workout that you might have. Or if you're doing something like jujitsu, you know how that

lifting session will impact your jujitsu session. That's why like if you're starting jujitsu and you want to improve at that, my main suggestion would be to try to see if you could do jujitsu before you lift. Because then it's like you would have done actually, yeah, you would have done pretty well in jujitsu. And then when you go to the gym, you won't kill yourself in the gym if you have to do it on the same day. But it's just something to think about. Like there's more variables when you're trying to improve at different things. Yeah. What's it called? Is it auto regulation? Is that what it's called? Yeah.

That's another one. You know, like my buddy, he's got an elbow thing right now. We were just, you know, kind of warming up, doing some tricep extensions. I like how's that feel he's like oh it's it's okay it's okay and then went a little bit heavier i'm like he's like ah he's like that that hurts that hurts like all right you're not allowed to go over one plate on the cable machine and then what happened the very next set he's like i think i go heavier i'm like you're not allowed to do it until it doesn't hurt so that's another thing where i would be like nope the program the program calls for RPE, whatever. And I'm like, so I'm going to go for it. But now that I'm like, well, I'm kind of,

I'm not really working for this one thing, like not working for just trying to be like the all-time best, like lifter, you know, for today. Like I'm going to work towards getting better at jujitsu. So like, no, we're going to drop the weight. You know what though? I want to, I want to backtrack real quick because there's no hard, fast rule that you have to do jiu-jitsu before you lift.

There's some of you guys who might do it on the same day. There are just advantages and disadvantages. If you lift before doing jiu-jitsu, you'll have a little bit less strength on the mat. That's not necessarily a bad thing because then you have to rely more on trying to build good technique. If you lift after jiu-jitsu, you're going to be able to to rely more on trying to build good technique. Um, if you lift after jujitsu, you're going to be able to exert yourself more on the mat. You're going to have a little bit less in the tank for your lifting session, but then you'll be a little bit more careful in your lifting session. So there's no hard or fast rule there. You can do either, or there's just advantages and disadvantages with both. The topic of, uh, like when to pick

something is a really interesting one. Cause I remember, you know, all I knew was powerlifting. That's all I knew for a really long time. And that's what I had the most respect for. And when it came to other stuff, I respected bodybuilding. And I understood like, holy fuck, that's really difficult, the diet thing and all that. But when I'd watch people work out, I'd literally just think people are idiots. I'm like, what are these people doing? Like, don't they?

Because in my head, I'm like, what's the point in coming here unless you're going to lift as heavy as possible? So why would you do anything that would compromise your strength? And I felt like I needed to like stop people. Like I felt like at a commercial gym, I need to say, hey man,

you need to not do this first because you need to save all your energy for the bench press. Don't do these cable crossovers right now. You, man, you need to not do this first because you need to save all your energy for the bench press. Don't do these cable crossovers right now. You're fucking killing me. I can't watch this anymore. But the order at which you do stuff is really interesting because let's say that you are training.

Let's say you're training specifically, you're training chest for the day. Or even you're trying to get a stronger bench press. Well, sometimes occasionally training your bench press in a fatigued state would be a great idea. We've seen a lot of people have a lot of success with the winning warmup. Part of that is because you add a lot of volume. Do four sets of 25 over the course of weeks and maybe even months. You might go from 40-pound dumbbells all the way up to like

80 pound dumbbells. Doing a hundred reps with 80 pound dumbbells before you do a flat bench workout could be really taxing. But over time, Matt and a lot of the other guys he works with, and a lot of people who've tried the method, they get used to that accumulation. They get used to that volume and they still end up having a good workout. Plus on top of that, get used to that volume and they still end up having a good workout. Plus on top of that, if you do have a banged up elbow or a banged up shoulder, it's kind of nice to take the edge off a little bit of what it is that you're about to do by doing something to kind of pre-fatigue you in just a little bit. So you use a little bit less weight overall. I remember Donnie Thompson did that too when he would do his, Donnie Thompson's first

guy to ever total 3,000 pounds in powerlifting. He would do a lot of kettlebell swings before he would do his dynamic effort squat workouts. And then even in between some of his sets of dynamic effort box squats, I think he would do like kettlebell cleans or snatches in between. I think he would do like kettlebell cleans or snatches in between. And that was, again, so that he had to use less weight. He was still using 515 pounds for 10 sets of three reps and no belt and just lifting it flawlessly. But he's like, I don't want to have to use six, seven plates on this particular day. So there's a lot of strategy that can go into even just selecting an exercise or an activity before or after. Yeah.

And, you know, I'm curious your thoughts on this, man, because like, you know, Nick was saying that fitness influencers don't train hard. And I actually, I do agree. But then it makes me wonder, like, what does an individual find the importance of training and what for them is like hard? What do you get out of it? Because there's obviously, if you're trying to build muscle, there's the benefit of gaining muscle because you have enough stimulus or if you're gaining strength, gaining strength for whatever you're trying to do. But training hard does something for you mentally. Like I mentioned, for me

personally, I haven't trained like I used to in the gym because I now have something else that allows me that hard training. I can train hard in jujitsu. I can just go round after round after round after round and tire myself out there. And now the gym is meant to supplement everything there and still bring me physical benefits. So I still feel good training in the gym, but the exertion does not compare to what I do on the mats. And when I didn't have jujitsu, the gym is all I had. When I didn't have the gym, I had soccer where I could run around on a field and exert myself. I find meaning and I find real mental benefit from just deep physical exertion, right? So it makes you wonder if you don't have anything where you do have a

lot of physical, physical exertion and you're just lifting, shouldn't you try to find that in lifting? Yeah, I think so. I think, I think, uh, I think no one gets out of this without some sort of hard work at some point and no one gets out of this without devoting a tremendous amount of time to it. What I would also say though, an interesting thing is that if you can look great and you kind of feel like you haven't lifted that hard, that's kind of dope. Like that's pretty amazing. And that might give us some insight into how healthy you are like because there's some people like uh some people really attack it they really like rage against their workouts and they're people that we've seen um they're kind of banged up like they're not they're health-wise not doing so well

because they they really they really kind of smash themselves for a long time it's like they pounded themselves into uh into dust dust over a period of time. I love what it does for me to get myself to a point where I'm like, this is getting pretty difficult. This is getting a little iffy. This is getting a little sketchy. But also I'm not a person who necessarily – I don't really love the dragging out to deep water thing that often.

Here and there, maybe, you know. In the gym? Just period. Just, yeah, in anything. In anything. And I think if other people have observed you and they say they don't believe that you put in that much work or they don't believe that you work that hard i actually think that's kind of neat but you still look amazing or you still have a great result

you're still really strong um i know sometimes people try to say genetics or peds and there's that whole side of things i'm not really talking about that necessarily i'm just saying that how cool is it that you made it look easy enough to trick everybody to make them think that you're not working that hard? Because we know what the real hard part of this game is. The hard part of this game is not necessarily the intensity. And that's why I've never really been, I like some of the intensity like during a workout or during a particular lift. But I never really liked too much of that because it's about your consistency

over a really long period of time. There's a famous story about Magic Johnson and Kareem Abdul-Jabbar. And I think Magic had to play for Kareem because Kareem got hurt. And I think Magic was a rookie. And I think Magic had to play for Kareem because Kareem got hurt, and I think Magic was a rookie, and I think Magic Johnson played center. Magic Johnson, he was...

He played every position. Yeah, he was 6'9". He was fucking huge. I just know he played center because he was a PG. Yeah, no, he was the first where they called him like a point forward to where he can basically run any position because he was 6'9", but he can handle like Magic, so he was a point forward to where he can basically run any position because he was 6'9", but he can handle magic. So he was a point guard, yeah.

So he played. He subbed in for Kareem. They won the game. He went nuts. The team went nuts. Everybody was so pumped. They got this stud player from Michigan State, and Magic Johnson was who everybody thought he was he was going to

be like the savior he's going to really help the Lakers be able to push to another level and they were already great and so everybody was all pumped and Kareem was like that's you know we got to play tomorrow night too like that's good job but we got to be here tomorrow too And I think that's the way that I look at lifting. And I think the way that we've looked at lifting and jujitsu and stuff too, right? Oh, that's kind of cool. Now you learned to arm bar. Cool.

That's great. Like there's so much fucking more to learn. Oh, cool. You got another belt. That's great. You know how many people can kick the fucking shit out of you right now? You know, like it's cool,

but there's still so much more work to do. that's something to think about though that is something to think about because when people do think we talked about this at length too when people think about gym intensity it's not just about how you perform in that one super hard workout can you work out tomorrow or have you killed yourself so much in this workout because of your intensity that like now the rest of the workouts for the week are thrashed we were doing workouts here for a long time especially for the super training channel every week someone was trying to come after me and i'm like i'm fucking retired first of all but secondly i don't really even work out that way necessarily i'm not going to try to beat you on a lat pulldown or a fucking rope tricep pushdown.

That's not my style. What was the bodybuilder? Branch Warren. That was a full. That was a tough one. That was great. And that was me totally accepting and totally just doing what he's doing. I think you might have experienced that with Big Jay, right?

Oh, yeah. Yeah.ay was just throwing volume it was like the 20 set 20 sets or 20 i forgot what it was i remember something high volume yeah yeah branch warren was kind of the same way it's like we're gonna use a lot of weight we're gonna do a lot of reps and we're gonna do a lot of sets and we're doing a condensed period of time i'm like dying like i felt like i was gonna throw up just i'm doing uh front races yeah do those front races he was using like 80 pounds i'm like holy branch warren is a guy where you would think like man that would that would be really tough for that guy to finish really well at the olympia and he finished second so it's like maybe he always felt that he had to work that hard to be able to do that you know yeah and that's what so kind of along the lines of what you were talking about, like, oh, it's cool that you've obtained this physique to where people think that you're, you know,

this whole thing of like where people don't think you work hard enough. So for the, for somebody that Nick Bear was referencing, like, okay, so at what, like how did they obtain this status of being like a quote influencer or having a platform, having what appears to be an awesome physique and a good work ethic without working? They had to work hard for it eventually, right? I think that's what Zach was trying to point out. They're capturing their top set, but that top set meant something from somewhere. Okay. It was curated, and you tried to make it look good, but you did do it. And, you know, hopefully the plates aren't fake and all that other stuff.

But you did it, and that means that you must have done it at some point. Right. Yeah, that's what I mean. Like, so at some point, they had to do something. And then as far as, like, the curated part like yeah nobody's gonna like the the working working up to sets you know like nobody cares they want to see the top set only or at least that's gonna get the most like so it's like well yeah i'm not gonna although it does look kind of weird where you record just the one set and then post that it's kind of i don't

know i don't think anybody's interested in the rest. Nick's former military man. He's, you know, he's just like head down, like go 100 miles an hour. Yeah. I don't know if you guys saw his feet when he was here. I didn't. I didn't. I missed that part. I saw those beautiful. Yeah, we took the shoes off and saw the feet.

And he just, I mean, my man just kills himself. He's the white Goggins. Yeah. Was it Graham uh just started like popping the puss off his foot or whatever is fucking disgusting yeah dude unconsented just dove right in huh but you know i i i do think about it though like i mean mark if you didn't have running you you need something dude like like wouldn't you personally because like you push yourself in your runs after your runs like you run for hours you don't feel thrashed but you do feel kind of beat up yeah i mean i know personally

i need something like that and it may not be always the best thing to need to feel like you need to thrash yourself. Cause even after jujitsu, I'm not leaving fucking limping out of the gym, but I know that I put in work and I do need a physical outlet that lets me, that gives me the feeling of truly working. Now we know how that can work against lifters because these are lift like when lifters try to chase failure too much, or they try to go for prs every time in the gym because they feel like they have to lift heavy every time that can get somebody injured that can actually limit your recovery to be able to perform well in the next session because you

feel that you need that right but i mean to an extent that i don't know that that pushing to that place just feels so good. Yeah, I do need it to a certain extent. You're right. And I kind of forget about it because I, because again, I've done it consistently for a long time and it feels, it just feels good to me. It doesn't feel hard.

I also don't, I don't, I'm not a person that wakes up and I'm not ever like, oh, I just want to sleep longer. I just want to sleep in. I just want to sleep in. I just have really literally never really been that way. I feel pretty good on most days. I'm pretty excited on most days. Some days are better than others, but I'm pretty fired up and excited. I'm kind of in shock that my body works half as good as it does most of the time.

Because I'm like, I beat the shit out of this thing. Like, I did pro wrestling. I was a football player. I did a bunch of stuff. And it doesn't make any sense to me sometimes. I'm like, how's this fucking, how's this old ship still running pretty good? And it seems like it's, you know, going from being an old, like, tugboat into, you know,boat into some other type of boat at some other time. Yeah, it's definitely American-made, but it's not like an old Dodge.

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What I was gonna ask you though, I know you haven't missed a run in a very long time because you've got an awesome streak going. But have you taken any time away from running? And then if you did, during those times, were you, like, really upset about it? Because we hear a lot of people talking about when they miss a workout, they really, really beat themselves up. But right now like your your workouts and your runs are very they're different right so like i'm just curious

because the the running is kind of like the the new baby in the family right like it's getting the attention right now so like do you feel that you really like you let yourself down if you miss a run um i mean at this point you, I'm working on running every day. So yeah, I would be like frustrated because that would probably mean that I got hurt or something like that. But when it comes to lifting, I could speak upon that a little bit more since I, uh, ditched a lot of lifting. Um, and I, and I still want to kind of point out there was some sort of lifting almost every day just because we are here and the gym is there and I'll almost always do something. But it's just way different lifting than what I was accustomed to.

Almost like it's lifting without building towards anything because it's lifting, maybe building towards, I guess, better movement patterns. lifting, maybe building towards, I guess, better movement patterns. So it wasn't like, I'm going to do three sets of this and this is going to build my triceps or I'm going to do three sets of this and this is going to be beneficial to my bench press. But missing lifting sessions is something that I have always been, I think, really good about. I've been good with just letting it not happen and just being cool with it. And also allowing those times to, allowing those times to take time.

I don't want to lift today. Okay, don't lift. You know, and if that goes on for a handful of days, now I'm still going to probably figure out something physical, but I might not lift in the traditional sense. I might walk some hills or try to sprint something or walk with a weighted vest. So there's some sort of strain or activity. Something to push the body. Yeah, something to push the body.

I definitely want that. And I can't think of a lot of reasons on why i would ever take a day off from something that doesn't push something i mean i would at least get in the fucking cold plunge or something for a day because i i love the way that that feels but in terms of like missing a run or missing a workout i think it's really important to be cool with that i had a friend recently who reached out and they said man it, it's just, it's like, it's really, really fucking cold outside. Like I'm not, I'm, you know, and I don't want to run a treadmill and stuff. And I said, just let it go. Like just fucking, let's give it a little bit, give it a little bit of time, or maybe see if you can adjust your

schedule. Maybe you can run when the sun's out a little bit because even if it's cold and the sun's out and you start running you'll get warm even if it's like 30 degrees at some point you'll get warm and they were like fuck and then uh yesterday they hit me up and they're like i'm so fucking pumped to go running again and then so it's like you know just sometimes it just happens in those cycles and just just be good with it sometimes. Distance makes the heart grow fonder. I think that's what I'm saying. Yeah, you'll be so pumped. But some things are a mistake, though, to miss, too. So you've got to be careful.

Like jujitsu at a certain time would probably not be great to miss. Running at a certain juncture of you getting used to it or lifting at a certain juncture. Those aren't good times to miss. But when you're doing something for a while and you actually just need a little little break from it i think i think that's totally fine yeah i brought that up because when i was out of town last week i missed two days where i could have done jujitsu and i like all i was thinking was like oh everyone's getting better without me like it you know it's kind of like i was joking but i wasn't um and then with lifting like i would kind of feel that way but not really really because I'd be like, oh, I'm just going to feel better because the next time I actually go lift, I'm going to be more rested.

I want to point something out right there that you just said, like the other people are getting better. I know you're kind of messing around, but seriously, if you just do something for the next five years, so many of those people aren't going to be there. And there's going to be people that are in class. There's going to be, there's all kinds of people that, that you're looking at right now and you're like, this motherfucker, this guy's amazing. This guy's really incredible. You're going to beat that guy. You're going to be better than that guy. That guy or somebody like that guy is going to stop for some reason they're

going to have a kid they're going to have to go back to college something's going to happen and if you just keep going like this happens at the end of a race a lot of times people start to sense that it's like the last mile and i saw all these people start to speed up and i'm like just just just don't fucking i don't i'm not here to try to i didn't sign up to try to beat that person or that person don't worry about it just let it go to stay the same pace i stayed the same pace and i beat almost every single person that passed me so you're gonna find that out in life a lot that if you just fucking stick with it and you stay true to it for as long as you can that's the real game the game isn't like whether you missed on a weekend or whatever that's huge that's the real game the game isn't like whether you missed on a

weekend or whatever that's huge that's kind of what inseam has been preaching to no but but but real talk it's like it's like when somebody comes into the gym and uh they do a workout and they're like you want to work out together and you can see that they're pushing it but on that day you're not you choose not to because it's just not you it's not what you're doing on that day i give no fucks if i back off on a certain day that someone decides that they want to push it because i'm not comparing myself to them it's like don't fall into the trap of trying to keep up with everybody else if that's going to actually be to your detriment because that's how you could injure yourself that's how you can push yourself behind because you did something stupid run your own race because if you can stick it for it at for

a long enough time the people that are pushing themselves and and killing themselves are probably not going to be there they're probably gonna they're probably gonna fuck themselves up at some point unfortunately i don't i don't mean to say that in any type of good way i don't want anyone if they don't then they're gonna be some type of good way. I don't want anyone to fuck themselves up. And if they don't, then they're going to be some awesome person, and you're going to be like, yeah, man, I roll with that guy all the time. He's fucking crazy. So it's still another notch on your belt either way. You're like, I get the opportunity to train with that guy sometimes,

and he never misses a day. He reminds me of, okay, what's the deadlifter with the glasses who pulls 900? And he has that crazy. Oh, Kaler. Reminds me of when Kaler Willem came into the old super training. Oh, yeah. I filmed that. deadlifter with the glasses who like pulls 900 and he has that crazy kaylor reminds me when kaylor woolham came into the old super training oh yeah and he started doing yeah he started doing his fucking uh i forgot the type of rows he called them i'll find it and i remember in the video like i saw him doing that i was just like like i was like i'm not gonna do that like my body is not

made to row in that way something something, something in your brain was like, I should try that. I should try that. And then if something else is like, no, no, no, no,

no, no, no, no, no, no, don't try that. Don't try that.

Yeah. And that, that was that, that, that stuck. Cause I was just like, I'm not going to fucking put my, I'm not going to put my back through that shit.

You know what I mean? Um, so sometimes you just got to stay in, stay in your lane, focus on your race. As cheesy as that sounds, man. Yeah. Stay in your lane. Focus on your race. As cheesy as that sounds. Man, yeah. I think he did that row for like 500 pounds or something.

Oh, God. It was ridiculous. Yeah, Kaler, unbelievable strength. Remember how wide his shoulders are? Remember that shit? Yeah, dude. He's a wide motherfucker sometimes with these people man imagine

like wouldn't that guy kill people if he like did some boxing like with that wide super long arm yeah long arms and really broad across the shoulder so you're thinking if he was to like wind up and fucking throw like a straight right it would just kill somebody yeah his shoulder could block the top of his head with that like whatever that that block or the uh that defense you know posture is i always think uh jeremy avila would be dangerous too he's so explosive yeah you're chucking those around that was good yeah but the way he does it though yeah fucking hell where is it yeah he lets his back kind of sag a bit and then he fucking just wow is he yeah i think i told you guys kaylor was a guy that sent

me a video and he's like hey what'd you think of this deadlift and it was 705 and he did it super fast and it was like uh it was a DM. He sent me a DM. And I was like, man, that looked really great. I don't have any negative comment on it at all. I don't even know where to begin. Like, it just looked awesome, you know? And then it was like, I think maybe like a month went by. And he's like, here's 7.55.

And he smoked that. And I was like, holy shit. And he's like, you got any feedback he smoked that and i was like holy shit and he's like you got any feedback i was like nope looks amazing and then it wasn't too long after that he sent me a video of him doing over 800 i was like holy fuck like this guy's on a tear what the hell's going on with this guy yeah man yeah but that's that there is one thing i do pay attention to i pay attention like i think it's it's beneficial to look at people who have great amounts of intensity. Like when you see them lifting, cool,

but try to see what the people who've been doing it for a long time are doing. I think that that's something to really pay attention to. How long have they been doing this? How healthy are they? And then if they're pretty healthy, why? There's probably something within their practice that has kept them healthy for a long time that you probably want to take away.

Because one thing I've noticed from not everybody, but people who are like, just every single session is just, it looks crazy. It just seems that you don't see that happen for a long time. You see it happen for a good spurt, a few years, it's nice, then it doesn't last. Yeah. Yeah, then they're not doing the sport at all. They're not bodybuilding or powerlifting at all.

You're like, fuck, that kind of sucks. They're not even doing the exercises at all anymore. You're like, damn. I think what Zach was pointing out is funny because he comes in and tries to like make

sense of it you know i think nick is just like probably frustrated just because he sees other people put stuff up and he's probably like this guy's kind of a pussy but uh you know he's you know he's a fucking he's an absolute beast i mean he's yeah he's uh run marathons he's an absolute beast. I mean, he's run marathons. He's done ultra marathons. He's done some bodybuilding. He's done some powerlifting. He's deadlifted 700 pounds. I think he's getting ready to do a bodybuilding show.

And he's like in a bulk right now. He looks incredible, you know, when he's running. He looks like a bodybuilder when he's running, but he runs like a runner. He really is a true like hybrid athlete and so i think for him i think for sometimes for some people they're just don't even understand uh when someone isn't like pushing as i think that's his idea of of how you're supposed to train is like, why would you ever train unless you went, you know, all the way into the red. And for me personally,

I like doing that, but I, uh, I believe I take my time with it a little bit more and I pick and choose when I do that. I'm not going to really, uh, I'm not going to do that just because I'm training. I'm going to do that because I'm training and I feel good the two things need to match up for me i think greg actually made a video

about nick's transformation but he gained some body fat like it's not like he he gained muscle back all the muscle that he used to have and a little bit of body fat it makes sense but it looks amazing man and i think i think it's really fucking cool. I mean, it is great when you see somebody who's really good at a single thing, really good at bodybuilding, really good at powerlifting, but it's really cool to see Nick just kill it as a runner, do well

as far as a lifter, and come back to lifting like he has. It's cool to see him building those different capacities. I really dig that. And building his business. Yeah. All at the same time. I mean, that's really admirable. And then now he has a baby, and that's why we didn't train together.

I don't think it's just because I'm a pussy, but it could be. Or it could be he didn't want to train with me because he thought I was going to bring it too much. Who lets a baby get in their way? I don't know. Babies aren't a big deal. You could run with the baby. The baby bajorn. Hold it like a little football. Put it on your back or something.

On the chest, actually. Yeah, the front chest pack. Maybe he was just saying what we've been thinking. He just said it out loud. Maybe. Maybe. I don't know.

Anyways. Anyway, it's going to be cool to have Zach back up here. Zach Talander. We have him. And we got Derek from More Plates, More Dates. And we're going to have Thomas DeLauer in the house all on the same day. Should be action packed. It's going to be a jazz fest, man.

It is. Why does that always happen? Where it's like there's one person booked and all of a sudden it's like that fucking meme it's like the meme where like we always thought that like all this lifting is going to get a bunch of chicks and it just attracts more dudes it's a bunch of nothing jacked guys yeah yeah that's what we like there's not going to be one woman in this building on that day. Hopefully. Women? Fucking gross.

It's not what I did all this for. I did this for the guys. Yeah, guys on the gram. Guys on the gram? In the DMs? Yeah. Did I ever tell you guys the... Uh-oh. I like this segue. might as well come clean guys

because i met i said jizz fest but i'd ever tell you like the first porn site i got caught with when i was a kid i tell you that no no i thought it was like lime wire downloading stuff that's where it started for me but what got me caught is my uncle took my laptop when I was 16, 15. Come on, uncle. And he was like, he worked in the government. So he was really good at like, I deleted search history and stuff, but he was good at finding the back end shit. So he got on the laptop. And even though the search history is deleted, he saw what was like, I don't know, the cash or whatever.

And then that night, first, i get my ass beat uh unexpectedly and then my mom's like what is jizz hot.com you're like mom i don't know what that is no she beat my ass and then she brought my best friend to come i remember this yeah she brought my best friend as i was crying on the stairwell she was like look at your friend brian look what he did that's amazing it was so good i love love how the whole family was against you jerking off. Man! Your uncle. Oh, good times. Honestly, do you think in some way that it was good that your uncle,

I don't know, that he cared in that way or something? Yeah, it was good. I don't look back at it bad. I just look back at it. I mean, maybe he went about cared in that way or something or. Yeah. Yeah. No, it was good. It was, I don't look back at it, but I just look back at it. I mean, maybe he went about it like a weird way or whatever, but like, it's good that somebody probably did that help at all.

No, I know. I know you've like gotten trouble and shit, but like, did that, did it, did it lead you to thinking about it was a problem? Um,

or that way later because you were too young still yeah at that point I just wanted to beat my shit man like I gotta just sit through this right now so I can go jack off later yeah pretty much man pretty much it wasn't until later that I kinda when I went on the Your Brain on Porn website

and all that that I was like oh shit I see what this is doing but that was later that was a little bit later years later yeah yeah yeah well i mean if i'm being real too like it's not like i felt accomplished after after beat my shit i was like now it was like more so i was like i did it again did it again let's recharge for 30 minutes and then find a new video why is there guilt after that because bro there's no pride yeah just in person what's wrong with me are you gonna feel prideful after beating your shit while watching two people fuck yeah it's definitely like a um what's it called like a like a not a safety check but like something that's built in like us already where

it's like dude if you keep doing this like you just like here's the guilt like okay here's depression like okay now we're just gonna shut off completely because you're not using this for anything positive so you are in time out until you can get your shit together it's kind of weird though because like checks and balances that's so if you did this if you did the same thing with like cookie dough, right? No. You took like cookie dough and you ate a bunch of cookie dough. And yeah, you kind of feel bad afterwards, but you're not like, nah, nah, nah. You're not like, that's gross.

But after you watch porn, after you beat off to it, somebody would show you like the same thing you were just watching. You'd be like, nah, nah, nah, that's gross. Like you're somehow momentarily like over it yeah yeah yeah actually there yeah there's a little thing you're like that's sick you say fuck you're like that was what you were watching yo have you guys ever heard of the serial killer joaquin kroll i don't think so german serial killer right he he looks exactly like you'd expect. I listened to this podcast with Sam yesterday. Oh, God.

Yeah. He looks like a creep. He looks like a fucking villain. And he quite literally was. The ladies are way into the podcast with the murder mystery shit. Time Suck with Dan Cummins. Great podcast. He does pretty much summaries on these killers.

Now, this guy was a German serial killer who killed, I think he was charged with 14 killings. But he definitely killed way more people than that. And the fucked up thing is he was into fucking cows first off. That's where it all started for him. I think he was talking to the police when he was making his confession. He's like, and I felt a warm thing in my tummy when I saw that cow. It started with fucking cows as a teenager. His family wasn't very nice to him either.

So he got it from both sides. And then it's like what he would do is he would pretty much just kill. A really horrible detail about what he would do is he would kill a woman. Then he would, you know, do his thing. But the police, every time that he got away with it,

the reason why they didn't, they, they, they didn't charge or try to find a single person is he had such a huge load that it looked like it was done by multiple people so every time he killed somebody and there was like come on the victim wow the cops would be like another gang rape because they he just had so much they see i think that's the main part of the story yeah but they couldn't test it and be like oh this is all one that shit was a while ago and another thing is there were multiple people did they show it

i think there's more clear there might be pictures in like a documentary but it's not like smell like davis it's horrible there were multiple people that got put in jail because the cops thought, oh, it was this person, it was this person, before he actually got caught. And a few men committed suicide because they were convicted. But then they were let go because they found out they didn't do it. But everyone's like, you did it. So those men who didn't do it killed themselves because of all the ridicule of the people around them because of what he did. There are three guys who committed suicide. So did share like his technique for having such huge loads like was he edging like non-stop and then he just i think he actually got joel kaplan

yeah you guys should look at dan cummins podcast about that guy because that shit was yeah that's somebody who you you'd wish like he was had like in this day and age because at least he'd have some porn at least it has something right hopefully i mean tons of semen yeah i can't get over that yeah yeah that that was something that got him off his loads were so huge i mean yeah that'd be great yeah got him off more than once sadly. Just didn't have to go and kill people, though. Yeah, man, that shit was horrible. He is literally a vile human being. One of the worst humans.

But another thing that makes, like, with people like him, he said that he had this drive. And he literally, when he was being put in jail, the reason why he was so forward with his confession was because he believed that like oh they'll just do some surgery and i'll be okay because he legit was like i'm sick he really thought that like they could do something that would make him not have those urges so it then makes you like fuck you kind of feel kind of bad for an individual who has the urge you know like dahmer right it's horrible but then they also had the urge that they couldn't you know it's just this intrinsic thing that most people aren't wired that way but some people are it's weird weird shit yeah maybe he just needed to lift or something i don't know well all right so you don't need to lift hard or you do need to lift hard? You. Yes.

Dude, I think like, I guess, so does it matter like when you're training, do you need to get yourself to a nine or a 10 on a scale of one to 10? Or can you just wait until that nine or a 10 feels more like a 6 or a 7, and therefore you're not working that hard, but you worked for a long time? So just a small example would be something like, I don't know, benching 275 or something. So let's say your max is 275, but you normally don't even try it because all you really work with is like 185 and 225 and maybe occasionally you go a little heavier and you just do your sets and your reps and rather than like

maxing with 275 you just wait maybe like a year and when you go to do 275 you're able to do a couple sets of one where the form looks really good and it looks like you could handle 295 or maybe even 300 you know i i get that would it change your your physique and would it matter or or could you you know smartly and intelligently train that way for years and years and have great results i think it would fuck with your uh at least knowing like seeing how i've looked at it, I think it could fuck with somebody's, how they gauge their capacities. Because we all have certain days where we feel good, where we're like, okay, let's push and see where we're at, right? That shouldn't be every single session, but there are certain days where you're like, I can push today. There's something there today.

And you can see where your limits actually are currently. That doesn't mean you touch that all the time, but there should be some times where you touch where that limit is. So then you can gauge the intensity of the rest of your workouts. That'll let you know how far you should push it on certain movements, right? So I think you do need some workouts where you let it out safely and you don't fuck yourself up, but you do that so you can gauge where that is. Because if you never touch it, then you never really know where it is, right? all of your training almost all the time with just nasal breathing resting in between sets appropriately so that you can do another set only breathing in and out of your nose and you can

probably do that for a really long time might be really boring yeah you can probably do that for a really long time and over time you can probably what you can handle with just nasal breathing would probably be more and more and more over time but you could probably do that and you'd probably be very safe and you'd probably be pretty jacked. I agree with that. Yes. But you might not ever want to, because it just might be too monotonous,

too fucking boring, a little tedious. Yeah. No, I, I'm just going to, I, someone might say that that doesn't look like the guy never looks like he's

working that hard and never seen him even fucking grit his teeth. So the example I wanted to bring up was I, we all agree that michael hearn works very hard but when you look at his him actually training you might think like man oh he's not really bringing it today but then you look at someone like whether it be like the the time you guys were all dead lifting i don't remember what he was dead lifting but he made it look super easy and it was very heavy and overhead press i think is the only time where he might like make an eyebrow thing you know like other than that like he makes everything look super easy i i don't think any of us would ever say that he doesn't

work hard though he's a great example so that's good yeah that's he's like the uh i think a lot of people would say he's not working hard, but he definitely is. I think he took it to like a martial art level, you know? I think he just took it to like, I'm going to make this lifting thing a practice, and I'm going to get good at it, and I'm not only going to like be good at it in terms of how much weight I can lift, but I'm also going to make it look good and make it look kind of effortless. It does fucking amazing. I mean, I can't think of anyone

who's done a better job than that i mean it's weird i can't even think of anybody like no one comes to mind i guess you know uh the thing that um uh you sent a video uh of a famous bodybuilder talking about how he's not a weightlifter k Kai Greene. Oh, yeah. That would be a cool clip to play if we could find that. Kai Greene talking about how he's not a weightlifter. Yeah, so that's the one where he says that like... If you YouTube it, you'll probably pop right up. He's chasing like not the stimulus, but the hypertrophy. He says hypertrophy really nice.

Okay, I'll see if I find it. What's funny is like I actually got sent that a couple times it's a cool clip i mean kai green's a fucking badass but i mean you know again kai green is someone that obviously is bringing a lot of intensity into the gym and you've seen him do his uh you know walking lunges and he's super strong too that's the other thing is like he talks about how he's not like a weightlifter but he he can move some ridiculous weights i've seen him do like 455 on incline press uh i mean for for sets and reps very flawlessly so he's insanely strong hopefully i can find it i'll never be a weightlifter and for people out there that don't know what a weightlifter and a bodybuilder, what's the difference, I'm going to explain it to you.

A bodybuilder is primarily concerned with contracting his muscles. He contracts his muscles against greater and greater amounts of resistance. By doing that, he's able to stimulate hypertrophy and make his muscles grow. A weightlifter is just concerned about moving weight. You know, he can boast to you about how much he curls, how much he benches. You know, how much do you lift? You're a weightlifter. It's really not important to me.

Primarily what's important to me is being able to make my muscles contract efficiently. I'm going to get a stretch and a contraction, and I'm going to be in control of it throughout the entire range of motion. Does that make sense? That explanation is so amazing that you can push that out into anything else. So you could push that out into running. You could push that into, I hear you guys always talking about how you conduct yourself at jiu-jitsu and how you are learning,

and you're learning at a certain rate, and you're trying not to necessarily force stuff, trying to let stuff kind of more come to you. And I think that, again, that might make other people think that you're not working that hard it may not look that hard the other thing is that's crazy though is again Kai Greene is so strong you know you would hear Jay Cutler talk about stuff like that kind of as well in a similar way but Jay you know he would squat five plates after doing, uh, like 125 reps of leg extensions, not just like foo-foo leg extensions, like leg extensions to crush your soul before

he would do his squats and he would squat five plates for sets of eight to 12 reps, four or five sets. Um, so these guys are incredibly strong. Um, but that's not their main goal isn't to like load up a ton of weight and to do it a particular way. His explanation right there, how the focus is on the muscle. So if you just extrapolate that out into anything else where your focus is, what is the main thing that you're trying to do? Again, what you're doing might not look that intense because maybe for you to get to your goal of like running a marathon or something uh maybe there's not a ton of intensity that's associated with getting the best result

when it comes to that main root thing that you're looking for it's also great for longevity man it's a great it's a it's a it's a great summary of how to be able to do anything for a very long time, right? And get good. You know, an interesting thing is the person who's going to a 10 every time, they might be able to achieve something faster, but it doesn't mean they'll be able to do it longer. And it might take you a little bit longer to achieve what they've achieved, but you're going to be able to get that and more if you can stay in the game yeah yes like i still say the same thing like i'm not really i don't care how

much weight is on the bar or how much weight is on the you know plate stack i'm just going for that stimulus is there something similar like that for jiu-jitsu like especially for a strength athlete not it's it's weird not forcing things uh when i roll with people my main thing in my head is like i'm not going to force any position i'm not going to if i feel that i have to fucking force a position on somebody that means my technique isn't is is really bad and that means I need to work on how I'm actually executing the movement because the strength is all there. I shouldn't have to feel like I need to use strength to do something on somebody. It's a weird thing because like you, you're strong, but you shouldn't feel that you have to really use all your strength to do a

movement. That's a lot of wasted energy. Yeah. Right. What if he tries to use all of his strength just to try to hang with somebody and not get tapped for like a, like that's kind of common, right? People will do that for like six minutes, eight minutes or something like that. Or yeah, I don't know what we're talking about. Yeah. Well, like, uh, just a quick example in SEMA. So today we, uh, you know, we started like I had the dudes back and he was like down in like a turtle position. And so the drill was for him to try to get out of it. And then if I can, you know, submit him, whatever, which definitely didn't happen. So instructor Sean came over and he was like, yeah, let's just see if you can hang on. Because he was a blue belt and very experienced.

And so I'm just hanging on, right? So I did use strength there. But this lighter, younger blue belt got out of it pretty effortlessly. You know, like I held on to him for a little while, but he belt got out of it pretty effortlessly. I held on to him for a little while, but he still got out of it, and then I was kind of like toast. So in that moment, I did use strength. So I think that's what Mark was talking about. Or if I get side control on the upper belt, sometimes I'll just be like, let's see how long I can stay here.

The reason why I think about things like this is because I have way more tools. Of course. That's the thing. I have way more tools. Like I, of course that's the thing. I have way more tools. So with the tools that I have, I should be able to do things without having to resort to the last tool that I would have to use, which is all of the force that I've built up within my body. Yeah. Right. And yeah, where you are right now, there's going to be a, I think there's going to be aspects where you think like you, you will do a certain thing and you're like, I could have done that better because you'll notice like you had to push.

Absolutely. Right. And like, you're going to have to do those things to survive at the moment. But over time you want to realize that like I could do that more efficiently. I can do that wasting less energy. Like that's the thing that has your technique gets better. You're going to use less energy to do the same techniques.

And by doing that over time, you're going to, your jujitsu is gonna be so much better i think it's so interesting how like the moment that you start to think about something is the moment that it's a major problem yeah like if you just start thinking man i gotta just use all my strength you're probably in a really rough spot oh yeah you're probably pretty compromised and most likely even if you use all your strength you're probably gonna lose yeah but then even even even past that is like when you develop more tools you won't be having to think of anything when you're rolling like that's the thing that's cool you that's really

cool you know i don't think yeah i roll at all like not it's because everything is automatic right everything that i do is like just the body knows what to do so when you get enough tools there'll be a certain point where you finish a role you're like wait i didn't think of any kind of blacked out yeah like i can't wait that's fucking that's when i mean jujitsu is really fun but that's when it gets really yeah it's like speaking a new language yeah or like crazy that running it's crazy that that can get trained uh in like military settings you know where things are really high stake and people's lives are on the line. Like that's crazy that you can just have this training that you, boom, your body and your mind just goes to without any thought.

Like load the gun this way, walk this way, aim this way, shoot this way. Like, fuck. That's pretty fucking impressive. Yeah. Yeah. I swept a dude this morning but i remember in the moment i was like nah because like i i used a lot more arm than legs and so i was just like okay well i got it but in that moment i was like i could probably get better at that because

i thought the same thing i'm like if i'm using too much strength then like i just need to get better at uh you know executing that thing and then also like um if you remember like one of the first like things i was hurting on me was like my adductor and my knee because like my guard i'm just like i'm gonna die so i have to keep them in my guard yeah now i'll maybe try to lock in the guard but because i want to get more work in i'll let go of it quickly and try going for a sweep or something so like no one's really in my my like guard really at all anymore just because i want to get more work in but it's really nice to be able to do that you know that's one thing that's now automatic yeah which is really cool yeah there's a lot of cool jujitsu people to

watch but i think the ones that are the coolest to like pay attention to the way they roll are the ones that for some reason they don't look like they're they don't look like they're exerting themselves when they're rolling with somebody like hadra grace he was notorious for that there's this young guy mika galvao who just moves beautifully but like when he's when he's messing people up he just looks like he's chilling it's that i mean that's super impressive because there's other black belts i've seen that like they just look like they're fucking you know and they do well but for some reason i don't know i'm personally not drawn to that so it is what it is and i found him yeah show us a clip of him so i think he um a lot of these guys are like uninhibited too by their athleticism like some

of these people that i've seen rolling they're so athletic they can move crazy yeah look at that movement fuck he's just showing a drill find something where he's like in a match maybe one of these oh maybe oh this is probably a highlight from worlds yeah man what do you think about king's games that was so fucking beautiful i've watched that takedown on a repeat on flow before because he does so many little things in the way he even lands his body bro let me get that flow password i would just have no clue on what the fuck he's doing it was so fast there but wait like there's a cool thing he does when he does that takedown watch the way he lands his own body to like take the force you see how he

jumped before like he he jumped when his opponent was in the air so that he could land softer those are those little fucking nuances bro he just he his movement is uninhibited. That's the thing about him. He just moves freely. That's somebody who knows jiu-jitsu and his body isn't limited by anything. There's nothing in his lower... His body can just do it. It's fucking amazing. It'd be awesome to get some of these guys on the show

and talk to them and see, what does your body feel like? You've got to feel amazing right to be able to move around like that yeah that's sick i gotta follow this guy yeah take us on out of here andrew all righty thank you everybody for checking out today's episode make sure you guys stick around for smiley's tip before we get out of here uh for everything podcast related i just head over to powerproject.live got the devil pussy mugs we got some new shit coming out we got our power sandal dropping very very soon so if not's already out. So make sure you guys check the links down in the description below, as well as the podcast show notes and follow the podcast at mbpowerproject on Instagram, TikTok, and Twitter. My Instagram, TikTok, and Twitter is at IamAndrewZN. Seema, where are you at?

I am AndrewZN. Seema, where are you at? NCMA Indian on Instagram and YouTube. And NCMA Yin Yang on TikTok and Twitter. Discord's below, Mark. Hello, everybody. Hi. Can we start the whole show over? We can hit record this time. All right. So here's the smelly tip of the day. I'm going to give you kind of two of them.

Number one is I've been running every day. I'm getting close to day 90. Not sure what the fuck day it is. But day 100 is going to be coming right around my birthday. And so, again, I just want to urge you to start something. Start your own thing, a walk every day or lifting every day. I did lift every day for a while, and that was fun, too. So, I don't know, just see if you can get a streak going together.

So that's part of the tip. The other part of the tip comes from my boy, James Smith, who I just can't stress some of these things enough. I think it's important for people to learn these things and know these things and explore these things for themselves. Stress doesn't exist in the world, only in the people's minds who negatively interpret reality. Sit on that one for a little bit. Strength is never weakness. Weakness is never strength. Catch you guys later. Bye.