Mark Bell's Power Project - Can You Trust Plus Sized Trainers??? || MBPP Ep. 1042

Episode Date: March 4, 2024

In episode 1042, Mark Bell, Nsima Inyang, and Andrew Zaragoza talk about how you can get great information from anyone, don't have to blindly follow everything that is said, and how looking at one's entire journey is important to do before judging their information.   Official Power Project Website: https://powerproject.live Join The Power Project Discord: https://discord.gg/yYzthQX5qN Subscribe to the Power Project Clips Channel: https://youtube.com/channel/UC5Df31rlDXm0EJAcKsq1SUw   Special perks for our listeners below!   👟 BEST LOOKING AND FUNCTIONING BAREFOOT SHOES 🦶 ➢https://vivobarefoot.com/powerproject   🥩 HIGH QUALITY PROTEIN! 🍖 ➢ https://goodlifeproteins.com/ Code POWERPROJECT to save up to 25% off your Build a Box ➢ Piedmontese Beef: https://www.CPBeef.com/ Use Code POWER at checkout for 25% off your order plus FREE 2-Day Shipping on orders of $150   🩸 Get your BLOODWORK Done! 🩸 ➢ https://marekhealth.com/PowerProject to receive 10% off our Panel, Check Up Panel or any custom panel, and use code POWERPROJECT for 10% off any lab!   Sleep Better and TAPE YOUR MOUTH (Comfortable Mouth Tape) 🤐 ➢ https://hostagetape.com/powerproject to receive a year supply of Hostage Tape and Nose Strips for less than $1 a night!   🥶 The Best Cold Plunge Money Can Buy 🥶 ➢ https://thecoldplunge.com/ Code POWERPROJECT to save $150!!   Self Explanatory 🍆 ➢ Enlarging Pumps (This really works): https://bit.ly/powerproject1 Pumps explained:      ➢ https://withinyoubrand.com/ Code POWERPROJECT to save 15% off supplements!   ➢ https://markbellslingshot.com/ Code POWERPROJECT to save 15% off all gear and apparel!   Follow Mark Bell's Power Project Podcast ➢ https://www.PowerProject.live ➢ https://lnk.to/PowerProjectPodcast ➢ Insta: https://www.instagram.com/markbellspowerproject ➢ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/markbellspowerproject   FOLLOW Mark Bell ➢ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/marksmellybell ➢https://www.tiktok.com/@marksmellybell ➢ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/MarkBellSuperTraining ➢ Twitter: https://twitter.com/marksmellybell   Follow Nsima Inyang ➢ UNTAPPED Program - https://shor.by/untapped ➢YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/NsimaInyang ➢Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/nsimainyang/?hl=en ➢TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@nsimayinyang?lang=en   Follow Andrew Zaragoza on all platforms ➢ https://direct.me/iamandrewz   #PowerProject #Podcast #MarkBell #FitnessPodcast #markbellspowerproject

Would you be open to having a coach that was kind of out of shape? Do I have years of experience and knowledge in how to lose weight and gain muscle? Abs are freaking low, Leah, I do. I think all of us are making a giant mistake thinking that we know anything about obesity without being obese ourselves. We don't know how far this individual has come. They may find a lot of benefit from the tips, the habits from someone like her than maybe learning everything from me. the tips, the habits from someone like her than maybe learning everything from me. A lot of females, they try to get, if they're going to try to get information from other women that like look fit, they're just going to get information from women that don't eat.

Would you learn to try to gain strength from someone who is not very strong? That and then would you learn from a skinny chef? Skinny chef can't be trusted. We already know that. No. Pepper Project family, we've had some amazing guests on this podcast like kurt angle tom segura andrew hooperman and we want to be able to have more amazing guests on this podcast and you can help it grow by leaving us a quick rating and review on spotify and itunes if you're listening to the podcast just go ahead and give us a review let us know how you dig it and help the podcast grow so we can keep growing

with y'all and bring you amazing information enjoy the show although i think joey diaz is making better decisions these days yeah yeah does jujitsu all that good stuff that's pretty awesome take a shot take a shot no i love it too bro i love it it's 1m. somewhere. Take a shot. So my Instagram was bought out by a media company. Oh, yeah. Okay. I'm glad you started there. Yeah.

Well, I mean, I saw some comments like that. I saw them too. Okay. Yeah. People are like, oh, you know, bought out by. I was like, I don't know. No, I just, you know, I find some dumb stuff on there and post it up. And I don't know.

It seemed like it has a lot of views and stuff like that. So I'm like, might as well just keep leaning into it. It's stuff you're interested in. You're just sharing the stuff you find funny or useful. Yeah. It's just like when you send it to one of us or you send it to a friend and you're laughing. You're like, well, I'm just going to send it to everybody. The best is when you like try to grill your friend about, did you see, you know, you sent something to them.

And then you're mad at them if they didn't see it, right? Like I sent it to you. I get more angry if I lose track of what's who sends me what somebody else. If somebody sends it to me. No, not so much that because whatever stuff happens. But if they send me something that's like way old and they're super hyped about it. One, I'm like, well like well dude where you been but then two i'm like fuck what's what am i doing with my life where i've heard of this thing or i've saw it so long ago that they're barely catching on it's like damn maybe they're getting ahead of me it's in a bad place man if you if you recognize

every single thing that sent your way that's how you've had too much internet yeah yeah that's what i'm saying the um it's been interesting because like i said you know it's just stuff that i'm interested in stuff that i think is funny i don't endorse any of it or whatever but it's weird because like the idea of sharing the person's information or or tagging the person rather giving credit um giving credit is is a little bit of a weird balance because i don't necessarily want to be associated with like all of that person's like ideologies and beliefs and so on.

And how do I know that that person's not like a bad shit, crazy person. They, they might've just had like a funny clip, you know, and I don't have the time to like, you know, scour through to see like what this person's all about all the time.

So share one thing and then find out they're a woman beater yeah you find out all kinds of crappy stuff about the person that i wouldn't i wouldn't be too pumped about that because i'm just trying to do it like more for fun than anything um but where appropriate i'm trying to make sure i do give the creators uh credit um there was a girl that i posted about on t and on my Instagram, and that thing just went buck wild. What's the heavier girl? She had 20 million views on TikTok. Was it the heavier girl that was lifting?

Well, that went pretty good too, but no, this is a rock climber. Oh, pull that up. Yeah, pull it up. Maybe we can mention her name here because unfortunately I didn't mention her name in the first go of it, which is unfortunate. But anyway, it had 20 million views on TikTok and I think like a few million on Instagram. But it just gets to be sketchy. It gets to be scary. She's got unbelievable strength.

And I don't know how you have this kind of mobility too. Watch the mobility of this woman. It's like unbelievable. Yes. And where is she she like what is going on i like all the comments of people saying like dude the cameraman's just floating yeah yeah how is that happening the cameraman's fine he's hanging on by one hand like and sima's enjoying the sounds? Yeah. Is that why it went viral? This whole time?

Partially. This is impressive. But yeah, listen to the noise coming up, though. This gets wild. No, no, no. That's real. Yeah. Holy crap. That's some real shit shit and then watch this mobility this is insane

look at that how close she was to that yeah it made me sick when i saw it i'll say oh my god yeah and some of these you know some like i just i kind of always felt that social media is like a lot of fun, you know, and then there's there's cool inspiration. And sometimes you just see certain things that you may gravitate towards for all kinds of reasons. Like watching that girl climb that rock. I was like, this just seems so scary. I don't have any of this capability. Like I like strength and everything, but that type of strength I don don't have so i really admire it and think it's cool and then i found this video to be pretty

awesome from this guy too and this guy is actually a fan and he reached out and he said that you know every time he thinks about how hard his run is you know how hard his tough his run is getting and stuff he thinks about like people like myself that made a 180 and went from doing other things to running. And so he posted this, which I thought was pretty cool. Finished up a 22 mile long run. It is my longest run. And it was the last long run of this marathon training block. And just all the emotions are really hitting me now. It's been 15 months of training for this.

15 months of dedication and hard work. And I don't talk about this. I've never even mentioned it on here. And this is really personal. But I've done it with really no support from my own parents. They just don't get it. They don't understand it. My marathon's 30 minutes away from their house next month, and they're not even coming.

So that's whatever. But I'm doing this for me. I'm doing this for me. I'm doing this for the 13-year-old me who was really fat and overweight and who got picked on a lot, really didn't like himself. I'm doing this for the 20-year-old me who was over 315 pounds and fought bulimia for years on and off because he hated himself so much. Yeah, men can have eating disorders too. And I know there's other guys out there that keep it to themselves. But guys, it's okay to talk about it.

There are other guys out there that have eating disorders and who have fought eating disorders in their past. You're not alone. I'm doing this for me, damn it. So just finished up a 22-mile run, dog. Yo, that's fucking amazing. Yeah, looks like a pretty big dude too. A 22-mile run, dog. Yo, that's fucking amazing. Yeah, it looks like a pretty big dude too. When you're carrying around extra weight, it's just that much harder.

And then a lot of times when we're doing these things and you're getting involved in lifting or these various things that we get into, it starts out for one reason but then starts out for another reason and then another reason. reason you peel back the layers of the onion, it's usually because you got hurt somewhere. It's usually because like there's something. And that's when we had Jeremy Miller on the other day. And I kind of made a joke and it was kind of inappropriate. But I said, like, bro, where's your dad? You know, and he's like, good question. Because I kind of recognize like, man, you can't go that deep unless something crazy happened.

Yeah. You know, and he did mention that, you know, his childhood was not the most ideal, the most optimal. And so you kind of see that a lot. You see that a lot with bodybuilders. You see a lot with in fitness in general where people are really just kind of going all in. But what I like about that message too from that guy right there is the fact that it's tough, man. Running is very difficult. Everyone knows how difficult it is.

But it's really easy to use the excuse of I'm too this, I'm too that, I'm too short, I'm too heavy, I'm too slow, I'm not good at this. And it's really easy to give up. And he said he's been training for this marathon for like 15 months. So that's, I I'm imagining that this will be transformative, like in the rest of this guy's life, even if he doesn't continue to always run, maybe he doesn't, maybe he learns to find a happy medium and he runs a handful of miles a couple of times a week. And that feels good for him. Um, but it is, it is that much more impressive when somebody is a little bigger because it's not easy to lug the extra weight around, real susceptible to injuries and all kinds of stuff like that. What I appreciate about someone like him is the things that he's going through to be able

to get to a point where he's running 22 miles. Like that was like 22. I can't imagine. I've never done something like that before, right? Don't try it don't trust me i'm not going to but the all the hurdles that he had to get through it's different versus a person who let's say they are a great runner but they're just much lighter you know and not to take away from people who are extremely good runners and they're lighter etc but they don't

need to deal with some of the things that a heavier individual needs to deal with as they're learning how to run. And the guy still has, I mean, he's in better shape, but he still has, you know, he has a good amount of weight on him and he's running those types of distances. So people who are trying to, who want to learn to run or want to get better at running are probably much better off or could probably find a few things from someone like him or someone heavy like you because of all the adjustments that you need to be you need to make running like that versus um just a really good runner yeah not taking away from the experience of a really good one at runner but they wonder but they won't have to deal with those types of things you know

i think i think that's why are you laughing? Because you made it funny. I think that's an important point, you know, is that, you know, maybe this guy might be able to teach you how to start running, maybe easier than the next person, just because he has a few extra obstacles in the way. And maybe it was just a little bit more difficult for him. And I think we also have a video of the trainer the trainer, um, the female trainer, who's, um, a bigger woman. And I think when I think about, you know, a lot of the fitness influencers, uh, a lot of times people are in really good shape and we had, um, we did a podcast where we talked about James Smith and James Smith talked about how he thinks a lot of people in fitness are

selected. Like it selects you after the fact, Hey bro, you should be a trainer because you're already in pretty good shape because you're playing this sport and you're lifting and you're already into it. That's a little bit of my story. That's a little bit of your story. Um, that's how, how we, uh, dug our heels into fitness. Um, we were already fit and we were already gravitated towards it kind of through sport. But maybe, maybe the person to learn to learn from, not that you can't learn from everybody, but maybe someone to learn from is someone that has had a different set of circumstances and maybe

had a struggle. And I wrote in this post, I said, you know, you're going to learn how to rehab yourself off of drugs from someone that's never done them before. Or would you rather communicate with someone that maybe wrecked their life a couple of times and they, they had to kind of, you know, dig down deep. I'm sure you can learn from both. There could be somebody that has a eight step program or 12 step program. And they say, look, man, this is bad news and this is what you want to do. But for me personally, I find it way more interesting to learn from the guy who

was like, yeah, man, I had it all. I had a wife, I had kids, I had my dream house, I had this and I pissed it all away and I got too involved in this. The next thing you know, I was hooked on drugs, lost this, lost that. And then I, over the years, learned how to get off of that. And now I'm, you know, doing well again. So I think sometimes the person with the bigger story, sometimes there's just different things to learn from. And again, you can learn from anybody. So we should keep our eyes open to be able to learn from anybody. But I thought this video was interesting. Don't play it yet. I want to pose a question to you guys. If you guys, you know, would you be open to having a coach that was kind of out of shape?

Would you be open to having them coach you as far as your fitness is concerned? I'm just curious about that. But before we play the video, I do want to read a few comments on this post because it's interesting. One from our buddy, Atlas Power Shrugged. How do you have experience and knowledge on how to lose weight and end up like this? Don't come at me with genetics. She's never had her DNA tested. I'm seeing a troubling rise of fitness coaches in larger bodies, I think is the term we're supposed to use these days. His pure arrogance, refusing to admit that their knowledge about diet is wrong, even their very bodies are objective proof that it is, leading others astray. If you know something worth knowing about diet, you will be lean unless you're intentionally overeating for a performance goal.

That is, okay, so he has some fair points in there. He has some fair points in there. But the thing is, is we don't know how far this individual has come. Maybe they already lost 100 pounds. Maybe they, maybe they exactly, maybe they already lost a hundred pounds and those, the individual that loses a hundred pounds and they're still on their way down, they have a very different route and different troubles to getting in shape than someone like me or someone like you. Like they, they, they're having to like deal with different things as far as like the way they deal with food that other people that are in their shoes can probably relate to better than someone like myself. So I imagine someone like her, and we haven't even watched

this video yet, but someone like her, you know, it's probably a lot of heavier women that maybe deal with a lot of the same things and they're on their journey too. They might have, they might find a lot of benefit from the, the, the tips, the habits from someone like her who's still doing this and who has maybe lost a lot of weight and deals with different things than maybe learning everything from me or you. Because sometimes people who are in really good shape, sometimes they look at things in two binary A or B. They don't think outside or, oh, maybe how is this affecting her emotionally, et cetera. They don't always think about that. So I understand what he's saying, but a coach like this can be

helpful to another segment of the population. Right. And I think, you know, if we, you know, Alice shrugged as a lifter, right? So if, if there's a lifter that that you know um squats 315 pounds that doesn't maybe sound like a crazy amount of weight but uh what if that person you know was 125 pounds when he graduated high school and they were you know they just had to work at it differently a lot of times not all the time but a lot of times that leads a lot of people to search for more and more answers and a lot of times, not all the time, but a lot of times, that leads a lot of people to search for more and more answers. And a lot of times, much like you can make the argument that sometimes a natural athlete, sometimes a guy that is naturally doing it and not taking performance-enhancing drugs, maybe they had to study it differently.

Like why do natural people go with natural people? Like natural coaches go with natural athletes and natural athletes are they gravitate towards the guy that they think is natural i worked with alberto nunez right yeah right and it but it makes a lot of sense because uh there's just a whole entire different set of circumstances working with somebody that is going to uh go a different route and i think when it comes to when it comes to fitness you know fitness is one thing I think when it comes to, when it comes to fitness, you know, fitness is one thing aside, but when it comes to like obesity, I think all of us are making a giant mistake thinking that we know anything about obesity without being obese ourselves. I'm not saying that you have to do that in order to like learn

about it, but I don't know what it's like to be black. I don't know what it's like to be Mexican. You know, I only know what I know through my own experiences, but I don't know what it's like to be black. I don't know what it's like to be Mexican. You know, I only know what I know through my own experiences, but I don't know what it's like to be obese. I was very heavy, but I wasn't a typical person that is dealing with obesity. I was never like the fat kid in the classroom. I never got made fun of that way. I never got singled out. I've none of that. I'd have, so I have no, why am I going to sit here and pretend that I know about it? The only thing I know about it is from communicating with some friends about it and communicating with my mother about it, communicating with people like Russell who are going to have on the show coming up soon. That's all that I know. I can only gather that information, but I don't know what it really feels like. So I don't know what that person deals with. Like for you and I, we might be able to say, well, just don't buy it. Just don't, just don't buy the stuff. Just don't

bring it in the house. Like you'll be good every day, wake up and hit the stair master. You know, like you can give people like some advice and, and say like, this is how I did it, you know, or this, but for that other person, the circumstances just might feel that much more difficult. Think about the thing that's really difficult for you to do, whatever it is, there's something that's really difficult for you to do. Whatever that thing is, that is probably how some of these people feel with their food and getting their life together when it comes to food choices and exercise. I just wanted to go back to something, Nseema, you said about like, well, we don't know how far they've come.

And I'm not saying like I am a coach or I put out like fitness advice or anything, but if somebody were to walk in here and get like, how do I get jacked? They might not even look at me, but I'm going to pull up a still image and it's going to trip you guys out. Let me pull it up over here. So that was me in 2016. So that's not me as a teenager. That's me as like a 27-year-old adult.

I was skinny AF. But like looking at me now, it's like how far have I come? Like a really freaking long way. But if somebody were to look at me and be like, oh, well, that guy's still skinny. Like he's not going to have good information. It's like, well, well, shit, dude, you don't know my past. So just like what Nsema was saying with this coach that we're about to watch, we don't know how far she's come. So it would be silly to disregard everything she has to say.

That's a good picture. I used to think I was jacked in that shirt, too, because it was like a small and it like fit kind of snug dude how great is that I remember like you know I got pictures of me like with sleeve with shirts and tank tops and stuff and I'm like man I thought I was so jacked dude and he can't see nothing fitness coach yes am I still working on losing fat? Yes. Can I kick most people's butt in the gym? Most definitely.

Do I have years of experience and knowledge in how to lose weight and gain muscle? Abs are freaking lootly, I do. And when I get to my goal weight, y'all better watch out because I'm going to be the fastest and strongest chick you've ever seen. Am I a fat fitness coach?

Can we just admire how well that 315 is moving though why'd you laugh like that no because yes that's the first thing i noticed was like oh my god like yeah like bounce the boobs too maybe a lie someone's hey looks great to me. Good form. Yes. Yeah. Hey, they're great. Hey, remember the Chabelle skit? Those are A1 New York boobs. You have great New York boobs. But seriously, like, dude, she's moving that with no effort.

That's super fucking impressive. And then also what she said, she was like, when I hit my goal weight, like, she's not done. Yeah. She's still going. Well, and also, that was just like worded so uh intelligently she said when she hits her goal weight she's not like when i get skinny you know she said when i hit my goal weight so who knows what her goal weight is um and also you know i don't think this doesn't look like a like real obese person i have no idea like what her body weight is or anything like that.

She looks like she's heavy, but as she's saying, she's like, I'm fucking working on it. The way she's moving that load, she definitely has some fucking muscle on it. Yeah, for sure. No, you can't move that kind of weight without gaining some muscle mass and stuff like that. So she clearly knows how to market herself. I thought it was a really well-executed chunk of information. But on the other side of it, I do understand if I'm trying to get fit, I'm trying to get in shape, you might think that it might make more sense. But let's shift gears a little bit over into rather rather than just we're always so like male dominant.

If you think about like females, females have a really – they're in a really weird position, really weird spot because a lot of females, they try to get – if they're going to try to get information from other women that like look fit, they're just going to get information from women that don't eat in my opinion because, because there's a lot of women that, I mean, look at most of the celebrities. Most of the celebrity women, some of them are smoking hot and everything, but a lot of them just, they just don't eat a whole bunch. And they do like fucking yoga and they do. Pilates. Yeah, like what they do, not that what they do doesn't mean anything, but they probably have always been that way they probably have always been gorgeous you know since like you know i don't know

go back and find a picture of some of these people when they were like little kids it probably looked beautiful you know it's like the most beautiful like blue eyes and probably just had perfect hair and as they got older like and there is a certain uh you do have to you do have to um i don't know do things to stay in shape and do things and maybe they played sports and stuff i'm not saying like they didn't work for any of it um but when you when you look at like female role models how often how often are they jacked how often do they have some meat on their bones how often do they you know most of the time they're just natalie Portman most of the time they're skinny I had and I still have such a huge crush on Natalie Portman bro yeah but like no agreed but also

yeah she's always been super small and skinny but then she talks about like how like a vegan diet or something like that has been like a crucial part of her getting in shape for Thor and this and that. And it's like, well, man, you've, oh man. Yeah, you're right, Mark. I mean, maybe she learned some stuff like, you know, through her upbringing and through her parents and maybe she learned some things about, you know, decent nutrition and maybe she does know some stuff, but it's easier when you've just never been fat. And I'm just speculating, but I doubt her parents are fat and I doubt hardly anybody in that family is fat. They probably just – they probably eat good and they probably have good healthy practices. And so no one ever got behind. But once you get behind, it gets to be very difficult.

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Fuck yeah! Links to them down in the description as well as the podcast show notes. Fuck yeah! You know, I think it is a tough thing, though, because I think it's not safe to discount people who, let's say they never have been fat. Well, if they're in shape, there's something they're doing to not, like if they're athletes, there's something that they're doing to not get fat. And there's something to pay attention to there for people who have been fat. And then they've dropped. There's something to pay attention there too, because they have the experience of being extremely overweight and then having to get in shape. So you can learn something from there. And from that point, it just comes down to the consumer. Who do they want to learn

from? Because it's like, you have one individual who let's say that they are in shape and they've never been crazy out of shape. So what are they doing that keeps them in shape all the time? There's something there, but then this other person, there's something there too. So, I mean, I think that like with this lady, with the girl that we just saw, I think that there's going to be a lot of people are going to find massive benefit from her, like insane benefit. And I think it, it's, it's a little, it's, it's, I think it's quite fucked up. Like I think Atlas Power shrugged his comment as much as there is some truth there it's like we we shouldn't totally discount somebody who's on the journey and going through the thing

and has made great progress and is dead lifting 315 like it's a fucking feather right like there are so many people who are going to benefit from working with someone like her because of her personal experience she'll be able to relate to people way better than I could or he could because we're kind of a little bit, we live this stuff, right? It's a big part of our lives. But for someone like her, maybe she came from a different background and now it's something she's implementing and she's obviously very skilled. Most people don't live this in that way. You know what I mean? They're not obsessed with it. I think a lot of times these things are like, some things are almost like gifted to us. Like I was just thinking the other day about this, like

if you don't overeat and you exercise, if you don't overeat and you move around a bunch, basically, forget exercise for a minute. If you don't overeat and you move around a lot, how much does exercise and nutrition matter in terms of the grand scheme of things in terms of health? I start to think of like, okay, if I'm thinking of like a pie chart, it's like maybe represents 10 or 15% of a pie chart. Then there's like all these other factors of community, sleep, drugs, all these other health factors. And they're going to take up a chunk of the pie chart as well until you get to 100%. But if you are overweight, then exercise and your food starts to matter more.

Your food choices matter more because we know that when you start to make the correct food choices, it can keep you fuller for longer. It can help with your satiety and things like that. And so it's just interesting. But in my opinion, the person that's going to live the longest, it's the person that probably, they don't even really think about it. They just like, oh yeah, I always, yeah, I did that every weekend with my grandpa. I'd hike and then we'd hike and then we'd go fishing and then we'd hike back and it was, you know, six miles, you know, or whatever. And they just have a bunch of healthy habit after healthy habit.

And you're like, God damn, they just had all these healthy habits intertwined in their life. Yeah, and my parents told me, you know, we'll just do dessert like once a week. You know, we did it every Friday night and it was a thing. And then, you know, we didn't have any sweets in the house the rest of the week or something. And you're like, man, that sounds incredible to kind of grow up like that. But some people also might think that's a way to grow up being, uh, being like tortured, but it is a great way to, for someone to maybe manage their body weight. And that is the thing though. It's like for this stuff to feel easy, a lot of this stuff needs to

just be habitual. It needs to be just part of your life. It's a passive thing. It's just what you do. Whether you're heavier coming down or you're trying to gain, it's like if you can turn all of these little things like jujitsu for you at this point, Andrew, it's a habit. It's a fun habit. And it's also a habit that burns a lot of fucking calories. Mark, running for you is something you enjoy. It's a habit that just manages to burn a lot of calories. But you're enjoying yourself while you're out there running with seeing everything.

Yeah, and then we sound like a crazy person. Right? But they're just habits. And those habits can be anything. But when someone is doing like, because not everybody likes to train in the gym. And as crazy as it sounds to us, like I fucking love lifting. But for the person who like hates training, because I've heard some people are like, I hate the gym. I hate lifting weights. Well, how can we turn resistance training into some type of habit for you? Because it's obviously something your body is going to need. How do we make this shit happen for you? Right?

How do we make you like it a little bit? Yeah. And that's what makes something like the marathon runner, what he was able to accomplish, even more impressive. Because he said he trained for that for 15 months. Right? Like, I can't think of doing anything outside of what, like, if we just kind of erase the habits for a second here, like, man, it would be really hard to get into something new

that I would be training for for 15 months and be that dedicated to and be that disciplined. Like, it's, man, that's incredible what he was able to accomplish. And, you know, if he's not, the fastest marathoner, like I don't care. Like that, I can't do that. You know what I mean? That's super impressive. It's interesting what your habits are like attached to.

And I think those are really critical things to think about. You know, if you think about like playing video games or something like that. Like I've always liked video games. I really do. I like them a lot. games or something like that like i i've always liked video games i really do i i like them a lot um i never really got that into like the more modern games and stuff like that and i'm grateful for that because it seemed like yeah it seemed like a real trap it's too fun like as soon as the online stuff came on came around yeah and i started getting my ass kicked by like little kids

that were talking shit i was like i'm out man fuck these kids i don't know what these fucking kids are doing but they would kick my ass in Madden. They would always use the fucking Vikings and just run all over the place with Dante Culpepper and Randy Moss. And it was just ridiculous. They would do these plays. I'm like, that's not a real play. What the hell is going on? I hit the button or whatever.

It's like a glitch that they figured out. Oh, yeah. They would figure out glitches too, those little fuckers. I hated that. Man. When NBA 2K went online. They find a glitch that they figured out. Oh, yeah. They would figure out glitches too, those little fuckers. I hated that. Man. When NBA 2K went online, they would pick Derek Fisher and they would shoot the three from half court every time. They never missed. And I'm like, dude, what the – I would lose.

You're cheating, man. Hey, stop it, they'd say. I dare you to just try to stop what I'm doing. It's not cheating if you could stop it. You just can't. Like, dude, man. Hey, stop it, they'd say. I dare you to just try to stop what I'm doing. It's not cheating if you could stop it. You just can't. Dude, no. You're beating me 300 to 4. This is not fair. This is not real. But anyway, your habit can get attached to just shitty behaviors in general. If you're playing video games, the odds of you eating chicken breast and rice while you're sitting there playing the game or in between the game is probably low. Probably grabbing a quick snack that you can kind of eat maybe as you're still messing around and still playing. And it's just – yeah, and you're not moving, right?

You're not – so it's like – and you're also not outside. You're inside. You're staring at a screen forever. And your eyes just kind of glaze over. You've been like playing this game for six hours or eight hours at a screen forever and your eyes just kind of glaze over you've been like playing this game for six hours or eight hours at a time and it's like the cartoon like when the the guys like eyes are all like bloodshot and everything yeah from just sitting there kind of playing the games or you get into um just looking at stuff on the internet in general porn or whatever it might be um you just kind of get stuck in the same rut. And again, even with watching TV, same thing.

You're probably just going to be sitting there, especially if it's late at night. You're watching something at 11 o'clock, probably not eating something healthy. Dude, I do want to rewind and just like, I hate to bring Jiu-Jitsu into this, but it's going to come in a little bit. I think that's like four shots.

Yeah, four shots. Take your fourth shot, guys. But you mentioned something earlier about like the, you know, would you learn about like cutting an addiction from someone who's never had that addiction? Like, for example, if I was an alcoholic and I was like, fuck, I can't fucking stop this shit. this shit. Would I want to learn how to stop drinking from somebody who's never been an alcoholic or somebody who's like, I don't drink. I don't drink. I just drink a shot or I just drink one. I wouldn't learn. I wouldn't be able to get what I need from the person who's only able to drink one beer because I drink nine and I can't stop. Right. So there's that. But I also think that there is something good. Again, this just makes it, we got to understand that there's something that we can pick up from everyone and we shouldn't discount somebody like her just because she's not in shape.

Because like in jujitsu, Andrew, like I remember being a blue belt and a purple belt or whatever. I'd always, if a white belt did something pretty cool to me and he was like a wrestler, he just did something interesting. I would ask that white belt, wait, what was that that you just did? Because it's like, I haven't seen that. I'm a purple belt. What did you just do? I learned something from someone who has way less experience than me and way less skill with me. Right. I'll also ask the black belt who like, obviously that's where I'm trying to get, but I'm going to also ask them, is there something I can learn there? I think we should, this, it's the tough thing with fitness because the fitness thing is something you can see,

right. But there are things that you can learn from people and you shouldn't discount them just because they don't look like the ideal. It'd be kind of foolish to do that. You know what I mean? Because they have a different experience. They're going through a lot of different things. And they might just know something that you don't because you've never had that experience. Yeah, we've talked about this before with uh coaches you know like you know hani rambad does not look like a professional

on-stage bodybuilder no does he need to be like no at this point no um was it helpful in the beginning of his career to be someone that is active with lifting and of course right and then now it matters less and less just because he has the accolades he's got all the people behind him same with like the football coach or this or that you know it's like yeah it's important like it's kind of cool when your soccer coach you know he's yelling at everybody and he's like oh you know okay guys listen you need to kick like this and they kick the ball and you go holy shit i had no idea that like this. And they kick the ball and you go, holy shit. I had no idea that my fat little coach could kick the ball like that. Holy crap.

They usually show you an example. And then now you're listening. Now you're like, all right, I better really pay attention to him. He definitely knows what he's talking about. It shouldn't necessarily take that all the time for us to learn and for us to be more, for us to like be more open-minded to listening to somebody, but it is kind of how things work. You know, if somebody gets up in front of a room and they're going to talk about strength and they only have, uh, you

know, like they're going to talk about strength and they only, they only have, you know, a 300 pound deadlift to show for it or something, you're probably not going to listen to them as much. Even if they tell you about the story of how they hurt their back the first time they tried to lift 95 pounds. You're going to look at the person that walks in the room and they look like they can rip the tires off a bus and they deadlift 800 pounds. You're probably going to be more likely to listen to that person. Yeah. Damn, I feel fucked up because I was just thinking, man, if someone was trying to tell me how to gain muscle and they didn't have much muscle,

I'd love to be open. Dr. Andy Galpin. He's not big. He's not real swole. He's in shape. He's fit. He talks about muscle all the time, but he's not 200 pounds. He doesn't look like a bodybuilder.

Again, he's fit. He's in shape um but he's a guy that knows probably he probably knows more about muscle research than maybe anybody entire world so you're gonna just like discredit him because he doesn't really look the way that you're thinking that someone should look that has that knowledge base blind spots yeah well it's because uh for someone like andy galpin he doesn't put that as high as i'll say i do right like you know like oh shit if i knew all that information like i would be so jacked right now but he's like no i'm gonna go acquire more information because i'd rather have that than

yeah walk on stage or something right so it's just he doesn't put it as a high priority. Not that he's out of shape. He's in great shape. But yeah, he's not, you know, yeah. I think that he feels he acquired enough to get the results that he wants because, you know, having X amount of muscle on you and having X amount of strength can yield these health results. But there's really no reason to go much further beyond that. So I think that's some of his stance on that. Before we play this beautiful video. So I have another question for you guys. Would you, uh,

you know, would you learn from a fat fitness coach? Would you learn to gain muscle from someone who didn't have any muscle, uh, or minimal muscle? Like, would you, like, yeah, would you learn to try to gain strength from someone who is not very strong? Just curious about what you guys think about this whole idea. Because again, it's, i think dr phil was married like six times oh really five or six times i think yeah man i can probably something to learn from him about what to do and what not to do hey hey with all those divorces i mean shit just tell me what you fucked up tell me how you picked them wrong, maybe. And you would just be like, I didn't do anything wrong. They got it.

Yeah, that and then would you learn from a skinny chef? Skinny chef can't be trusted. We already know that. No. God, got to have the wings, bro. Got to have the wings. That's how you know you're going to eat good food. They are very clearly not using enough butter and or sugar.

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dude he would be impossible to play on the court because he's just so big this man can dunk yeah i wonder how much he weighed like six eight he's yeah he's big but look at the way he moves he did a double spin yeah you see this is the tough thing it's like he can show his work i'd want to learn basketball from escalade could you imagine even though i'm not six eight damn he's got skills man that's the thing we like you you we i learned from people who can show their work but then i also people who can't show their work i'll give them them time to like, just so I can understand. Okay. Do you, do you really know what the fuck you're talking about?

And then I'll hear him out. But the, the people who can, like, for example, the Ben, Ben Patrick, right? Everybody loves to hate on this stuff that he's doing. Or some people love to hate on the stuff he's doing, but this man can sprint. He can dunk. He can move. He has a great transformation story. If he couldn't dunk, I don't think there's a story.

It'd be harder, right? I don't think he gets, I don't think he, quote unquote, gets off the ground. A white man who can dunk is impressive. He dunks and he dunks well. And he also demonstrates everything really well. He gets into position. I mean, it's obvious that he's strong. Yeah.

And if he couldn't, I think the two play off of each other. Like he wouldn't, if he didn't have the strength to dunk the way that he does, he wouldn't be able to get into those positions in the first place. So he gets in these weird compromised positions that most people would really struggle with. And he does so with pretty good weight. And then on top of that, he's able to like, you know, dunk and do all kinds of other stuff. And so I think it's just, I don't know. It's just, I always found this to be super interesting on like how we acquire information and who we learn from. I do know when I was powerlifting, it was really important for me. I tried to observe everybody, tried to watch everybody.

But I learned quickly too that like Ed Cohn was Ed Cohn and I wasn't Ed Cohn. And there was still a tremendous amount for me to learn from the guy. And he taught me Cohn and I wasn't Ed Cohn. And there was still a tremendous amount for me to learn from the guy. And he taught me a lot. And I was always grateful for that. But I had to try to find people that I thought were like more my size. Like I'd watch videos and I'd be like, oh, okay, that guy looks to be a little bit more my height. Or I'd watch someone do a movement and I'd say, my body doesn't really move that way. Like I can't deadlift quite the same way that guy does. Um,

thinking of like Jay Cutler or somebody who, when they would deadlift, they, they would like squat, they would kind of squat their deadlifts up if they was doing like a conventional regular deadlift. And I was like, Hmm,

my body doesn't move quite like that. I don't know if I, it doesn't take me forever to learn how to figure that out. Let me try to watch some people that was like, my body doesn't move quite like that. I don't know if I, it doesn't take me forever to learn how to figure that out. Let me try to watch some people that have like maybe what I think is like a similar body type. And then I started to try to study that. And I think you've done something similar with jujitsu, right? You try to watch, you're watching everybody. Watching the smaller guys, watching the guys that are quick.

Like, holy shit, that's impressive. How'd that guy put that guy in that move so quick or how did, that's amazing. But then you want to watch the bigger guys too. You're like, this guy's impressive. How'd that guy put that guy in that move so quick? Or how did, that's amazing. But then you want to watch the bigger guys too. You're like, this guy's 280. He's able to do this. So that means I should be able to do that without a problem because I'm not 280. The odd thing is like the 280 guys don't move

as well as the guys who are middleweights. What you were saying was interesting. So you got to find the right, yeah. There's that. But then when it comes to something like jujitsu, I actually wanted to emulate the smaller guys. And it's funny because when it comes to something like jujitsu i actually wanted to emulate the smaller guys and it's funny because when it comes to lifting i tried to find people who had a similar body type like for example deadlifting i watched a lot of yuri belkin because his technique was just like pristine he's around six feet he had good mobility but the way

he just wedged himself into a sumo deadlift i think we're talking about is like the ability to mimic you watched him and you're like i think i can mimic that and that's that's basically what i mean as well yeah exactly but like with jujitsu it's an interesting thing because the smaller guys at the highest levels typically they have an ability to move and like squirt like they just have this really great ability to move and it's funny because like the guy who like i was copying a lot initially was this guy julian at our gym because he just moves really well, but he's 170 pounds. So I was like, okay, I can develop a game like a smaller guy, but in a bigger guy's body, that's really dangerous. So I had to kind of take the opposite because generally in jiu-jitsu, the bigger guys don't move as well as the smaller guys.

And it's partially because they don't need to. They're stronger. They're bigger. They can get away with more things. But big guys that do move like small guys are annoying as fuck. Like Victor Hugo or Merrick Golly, like they're hard to beat. So. Yeah, same thing with me.

Like my buddy Chris, like he's bigger than me. He's taller and he's heavier and he's stronger. But I basically like we're training partners and we work so well together because I'm just trying to mirror everything he's heavier and he's stronger but i basically like we're training partners and we work so well together because i'm just trying to mirror everything he's doing and if he was uh like a super heavy or something like it just it would if he played a different game like it just wouldn't work but i think that's like what's helping me like progress a lot faster is because i can just if i'm not if i'm not rolling that certain round i'm just watching everything he's doing then i try to mimic it on the next round.

I think it'd be hard to extract information sometimes from the best of the best. Sometimes the guys that are the best, they see things differently. We've talked about this on the podcast before. I'm sure there would be an insane amount of information to learn from LeBron James, but he's a point guard, and he's 6'8". There's only been one other point guard that's six foot eight in the history of the NBA and his name is Magic Johnson. So it's like you're, you got these two guys who are just anomalies. And if that, if that particular person is going to teach someone how to pass and how to, uh, you know, how to get rebounds and stuff like that, how to pass and how to, you know, how to get rebounds and stuff like that.

Some other people might be kind of lost because they're like, well, I'm not as strong. Like they're going to be missing some of the attributes that these people already naturally have. Not naturally have. They have worked on it and crafted it for a long time. And it's just – it's interesting because I do think there would be a lot to learn from those guys but also i i i think that they would have a hard time explaining because they're on a completely different level like maybe magic and uh lebron can communicate pretty well but maybe everybody else after those two leave the room go what the fuck they were talking about like i'm not really sure you know if we know what they were talking about because it's such a high level.

You know, an interesting thing about what you mentioned there, though, it's like LeBron is somebody who, when people have watched his interviews, he can recount a game from two weeks ago and tell you literally every play. Like, he's done this in multiple interviews and multiple players that talk about him

are like his recollection of the game and the way he's able to tell you what you did. Like, when he's on the court with other teams, he knows the plays they're going to do. And there's been so many interviews where the other players are like, yeah, LeBron called that play. He knows that he knows all of our plays. So the thing is, is LeBron has all these attributes, but I do think people tend to see someone like a LeBron or someone that has a lot of attributes, right? There's a lot of attributes, but they discount what they know because they're like, ah, they just got it. They're just, they're just talented. So they, they discount that even though this person actually

has a lot of, they, they've worked a lot. They actually have it a lot here, but we kind of just say, ah, that's LeBron. That's what a lot of people do. And it's, it's like, it's that, say ah that's lebron that's what a lot of people do and it's it's like it's that i think that's another blind spot because when someone is so good at something we distance ourselves so much from that where we're just like there's no way in hell i'll be able to take anything from that yeah he was gifted he was born with it he's born with it he would also be good at jujitsu take another shot let me take a shot of this. Mind bullet. Yeah, it's – Blind spots, bro. There's blind spots in all that shit.

Yeah, they're everywhere. And again, I think the most important thing is to try to think what is the person saying? Yes. What's the person saying and how do I move forward with this information? That information that was put forward by that woman who was a female lifter, that's like a little on the heavier side. I think is what she's saying, like does it make sense? Does it stack up to like beliefs and things like that you have? And I think that's where you can kind of think to yourself, does this kind of match some of my beliefs? It doesn't, you don't always want to just match things up with just the way

something looks, but I think you do need to match stuff up with how something looks in addition to what the person's saying. Yeah. Yeah. You need to do a little bit of both. Andrew, bring up this song. I think this should be our new theme song, the opener for the Power Project. The opener. Celebration of being back on YouTube. Welcome us back, and this is what we're going to give you. This is pretty epic, though. Look at those glasses.

Yeah. That's a jam. Ice bath, ice bath No shower No shower That was Ice bath. Ice bath. No shot. No shot. That was jammed. Actually, I'm curious now. I don't care because I'm recovering faster than you. What happens to your balls when you guys go into cold punches since you're on TRT?

Oh, yeah. Disappears completely very much. Really? Like they get smaller than they already are? Oh, yeah. I haven't paid much attention just because everything's so small i'm trying not to look you don't need a fucking like you're just your balls dude but then so does your dick just hide your balls anyway because of how fucking no but here's

the fun here's the we can actually talk about this now because we have a show again all right but the gil headley stuff about like foreskin and whatnot yeah so dude when when that thing retracts it really does turn into the fucking ant eater like there's a lot of skin over the where the penis used to be because i'm so sure yeah so there's like extra at that point yeah so it's not that your skin retracts your skin just be stay hanging but your dick goes deeper yeah yeah and then so when it gets erected goes out of the skin my wife grabbed my dick today when i got out of the cold plunge she did insult to injury she goes that thing's fucking freezing

i was like yeah you should let me put it inside you see what happens she's like no be like fucking a dead person it's good payback because her hands and feet are always fucking cold so I'll get her with the cold willy dog I feel so ashamed when I get out of the cold plunge and Sam sees me I just like try to just cover myself

because she can't look at me like that that shit every time you see yourself like that you're like I gotta shave my pubes so you can see this thing a little bit better this is like not going so good yeah i gotta do something with that yeah oh my goodness but uh carnival alias has some has some different words about cold plunging he doesn't like it either because it makes your dick cold dick uh too small i think he dislikes it for a few different reasons. Dislikes for a few different reasons. You feel like you're going to die when you're in there.

That's all right, Bill. Let's see. Let's see what we got. Cold plunging daily is one of the dumbest things you can do, especially if you're already stressed and have low thyroid like most people today. Sure, do it every now and then, but it's not the panacea it's made out to be. Cold plunging is the most stressful thing you could do to yourself. Your body doesn't know you're in a nice Los Angeles studio cold plunging. It thinks you're on the Titanic, sinking.

In nature, falling in cold meant you were going to die. As a result, it massively spikes adrenaline and all of your stress hormones. Right when you get out of a cold plunge, it feels amazing. Just like how surviving a plane crash would. You thought you'd die, and then you didn't most people today are already overly stressed and low body temperature from low thyroid function our body temp needs to be around 98.6 for optimal function the last thing they need is more cold if this is you you're basically just aging yourself faster for a mood boost don't blindly hop on this bandwagon just because it's sexy.

Don't blindly do anything. You know, don't blindly do anything. Always question the knowledge. I think it's important. But overly stressed is wrong because, like, we exercise all the time. We lift. We do all these things, right? These are stressors.

And when we first did it. Yeah, it was stressful. It was pretty fucking stressful and like hurts you know and but over time you get used to it and then you learn what's appropriate and i agree with some of what he's saying maybe just doing it every day isn't a great idea maybe thinking that the cold plunge is going to like solve all your problems isn't a great idea but um people need to work on their stress management. It's the number one thing that people need to work on and need to work on it through their brain. And they're not, people just aren't, they don't think about it. People are thinking about making more money, having more muscle, having less body fat, and they just put those things

on fucking repeat. That's all people are mainly kind of consumed with. And they're not thinking about how can I mitigate stress in my life? How do I stuff these stressors that are coming at me? How do I take them on? How do I just take them on, you know, just straight up? How do I take them on? How do I allow them not to have a negative impact on me? And the number one way you can do that is to start to work on reinterpretation,

how you interpret the different things that are coming at you in a given day. But it's easier to have reinterpretation when you do things that are difficult and you do things that are hard. You put yourself in a compromising position kind of on purpose. They're sort of made up.

We're not that compromised anymore. And hopefully, you know, in the lives that most of the people live, on purpose they're sort of made up like we're we're not that compromised anymore um and hopefully you know in the lives that most of the people live hopefully they're not actually in harm's way and hopefully they're not actually in something that's that bad yeah but hopefully they also have an opportunity to go to jujitsu take a shot and end up underneath someone that weighs 250 pounds. 256. 256. Hurts. And, you know, has their knee on you or is just trying to toy with you because they're having a great time.

You know, you put yourself in these compromising positions so that you are trying to expose yourself to these types of stressors. But you're also trying to keep yourself ahead and you're trying to stay ahead of the curve and you're trying to stay ahead of your work, stay ahead of, it's really easy to be super stressed if you're behind. You know, you leave the house and you're going to lift and you forgot your gym bag. You don't have half the stuff that you need with you. And then you go and you train. The training session wasn't as good as because you didn't have your belt and your pre-workout and your wrist wraps or whatever it was that you needed and then you're off to work you didn't make enough time to take a shower so you're kind of grumpy and gross at work the whole time and you're a little bit behind on work and just everything just kind

of going that way but what if one day you decide to be an adult, you decide to be more mature and you're like, I'm going to get up a little bit earlier. I'm going to take a shower at the end of the shower. I'm just going to try what Wim Hof says. I'm going to do 30 seconds or a minute of cold and just want to see what it does. You do that off to the gym. It's like you had five cups of coffee. You have a better workout, and maybe it starts to set yourself in motion where you start to learn to stay ahead all the time. So I think cold therapy is amazing. I think that most of the people that talk about it, they don't have any idea what they're talking about. The effectiveness of cold therapy is unbelievable. And I think that

the cold plunge and plunging yourself into a tub is one thing, but there's so many other ways that you can get cold therapy. You can simply go outside. If it's under 55 degrees, you're good. Spend a couple minutes out there. Try to walk, walk in a tank top, do some, you know, whatever, whatever is like appropriate. You know, somebody was like, I'm going to get frostbite if I go out. I'm in Idaho. Well, don't. That's a little too much. Find something that's more appropriate.

But the cold can help with a lot of things, and depression is one of them. So I think people need to get on board with it and really just experience it. Experience it. Don't just listen to what people are saying about it. You've been getting great sleep. You've been handling your nutrition. You've been working out in the gym. You may have been running and doing all the things

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the PowerProject checkout panel, or any individual lab that you select on their entire website. Again, MerrickHealth.com slash Power Project. Links in the description as well as the podcast show notes. I agree with him where he says, like, you know, don't jump on the bandwagon too quickly. Because, like, you know, if you're someone who does have some thyroid issues or let's just say, like, your recovery is kind of shitty, you don't get much sleep, and now you add another stressor on top and you're trying to go ham on that stress. Probably won't do you much good initially. But we are pretty strong as humans. Like we can adapt to a lot of things. And to think that, oh my God, going into a cold plunge is dangerous for you if you do it. with the amount of people that can do it and do have benefit, I think it's kind of, I don't think it's very intelligent to say, just blanket it as being something that's bad for you because some people have a bad experience and many people are having amazing experiences with it.

It just means that maybe you need to start off a little bit slower. So if you don't have a cold punch, can you just take a cold shower a few days a week and see how you feel with that? See how long you can maybe do that. Start with 30 seconds and maybe bump it up to a minute, 90 minute, 90 seconds, et cetera. Cause you'll probably be able to adapt to that pretty good. And then it'll probably end up not being that much of a stressor. Cause I remember when I first started cold plunging, shit was hard. It was, it was really hard to get in there. When I came out, I felt good, but I was like still shivering. I'd come here, I'd still be shivering.

And now when I do it, I can go in, I can come out a little bit cold, but I come here, I still feel great. I'm good. I'm not shivering all the time. You know what I mean? Because I've adapted to that stress. So just because it's a stress doesn't mean you should avoid it altogether because people don't avoid hard training. They gradually increase their training volume. They gradually increase their training volume. They gradually increase their training frequency and then they can train five,

six days a week and it doesn't fuck them up. But if you go off the deep end too soon, you get fucked up and then you're like, hard training's bad for me. That's kind of what he did with this cold punch video. It's, it's odd because he has a lot of good content, but this is just like, again,

it's weird why why avoid a stress that you can get better to deal better dealing with uh carnivore aurelius has an amazing page i suggest everybody go follow the guy he's got incredible information and usually it's um it's maybe information that hasn't been like gobbled up by the mainstream just yet and cold plunging i don't know people might think that's been gobbled up by the mainstream just yet. And cold plunging, I don't know, people might think that it's been gobbled up by the mainstream, but what's the cure, you know, what's the cure for having really, really cold hands? Have you guys ever heard about that?

No. I know it from you. Yeah. So if your hands are really cold. You just go out and get colder? Yeah, you get colder. Put your hands in, like if you typically have cold hands, supposedly, this is from Wim Hof, you put your hands in ice water for three minutes and you work on it.

Maybe you can't do three minutes right away. Maybe it's too crazy for you. You work on it over time. Why are you working on it? To help regulate your body temperature. Your hands shouldn't be cold. That's not normal. Why are your hands cold?

Why do you have this abnormal abnormality barely could say that word um it's it's because you're not able to regulate your body temperature why aren't people able to regulate their body temperature because people spend 90 of their time inside get the fuck outside expose yourself to the cold you're supposed to be cold every once in a while what do you think our ancestors did when it was cold they were just cold they couldn't keep making decisions to like be warmer they just like we're cold and like fuck man i guess we gotta snuggle up and get close to each other they didn't have uh nearly as many options as we have now to just you know stay inside.

But regulating your body temperature is an important skill that your body needs to have. And if people have messed up thyroid, it's because they're not exposing themselves to the cold. And they're not exposing themselves probably to the heat. They're probably not getting out in the sun. There's probably a long list of things. All these things would beat the shit out of T3 and T4. These are thyroid hormones. But getting into cold, getting some sunlight, these things would probably be more beneficial.

There's so many women with Hashimoto's disease. There's so many people that have poor functioning thyroid. And a lot of times your thyroid is something that helps your body to regulate some of the temperature that you have. And you have to figure out a way to regulate that. You shouldn't – everyone can feel different. Like everybody is a little different. But in the grand scheme of things, you should be able to regulate your own body temperature pretty well. I'm just remembering the first first time that i i did like

a cold shower like at the end of a regular shower and i turned it cold this was um like before 2019 but i got really sick it was just a coincidence that's what i'm gonna say but i got like the worst cold ever right after that so i was just like dude there's cold therapy i'm never doing it again and then now like yeah it's still really really hard for me to get in the damn cold plunge okay but what he said about like um like yeah if we got cold that meant we were gonna die or whatever and i'm like oh my gosh that's dramatic but then i'm like well wait a second like that's actually a really good promotion to do it because you're not gonna die but you're going to experience something difficult that your body's gonna be like holy shit bro like we made it like it's how people survive yeah and it's like

okay well we do something similar if we get under a heavy squat and we're like oh fuck how am i going to stand up i got all this weight on it's gonna kill me and then you do it and you're so fired up and now you feel like you can you know conquer the world or whatever it's like man all right actually yeah that's actually more of a good promotion to jump in the cold water if if that's what it's gonna mimic like that shit all right thanks for that one again he does have a point be careful right don't jump off the deep end going in fucking 40 degree water trying to stay in there for five minutes if you've never done it before adapt to it but like we can adapt to stress we are humans this is what we're meant

to do and to just totally avoid a stress because it's uncomfortable it's like that that seems again anti what this guy is typically about what do you see all like he's sunning his asshole and doing all this other shit like he he does a lot of pretty interesting and some good shit so it's like it's it's odd it's an odd take again you can get cold therapy a lot of pretty interesting and some good shit. So it's like it's odd. It's an odd take. Again, you can get cold therapy a bunch of different ways. You can roll your windows down in your car. These are just – there are small things that you can just try.

And if you think about what's the worst way to expose yourself to cold? The worst way to expose yourself to cold is to jump into really cold water. Like that's the worst way, you know, because it's the most extreme. It's the toughest way. But it's also like kind of in some weird way, it's also the easiest way. Like I was debating the other day whether do I walk outside and just deal with the wind and the rain and walk around like a crazy person in my front yard or do I just go in the cold plunge? The cold plunge is actually easier because walking out around outside when it's fucking windy and cold sucks a little bit worse. But just expose yourself to it whatever way you can and do

whatever amount of time that you can. If you can only do 30 seconds of changing the temperature in the shower, then that's great. My wife has been messing around with the cold plunge, but she can't do it unless she like already worked out. So for her, she has to have her body temperature like up already. I know you're not supposed to do it after you lift or whatever, but I think, hey, if she can get herself exposed to it, that's great. How about when you guys get into the hot and then into the cold? Like I've never

experienced that one what's that like yeah it helps a lot i mean if you like if you can get into either a sauna or just come out of a hot shower the hard thing out of the shower is like you got to immediately get to the cold if there's any like time in between you know you you start to kind of lose that body temperature. But it's way easier. Because you're a buffer. It's way easier. Yeah, it feels, it feels, yeah, it's way, way more comfortable.

So maybe you could maybe pop out of the shower and like, you know, put a robe on or put a towel around you and scoot yourself out to the cold plunge and try to jump in there at that time. But yeah, you get your skin kind of like pinkish a little bit. Maybe not for you. No, seriously. It actually does. Yeah. Fucking, no, I'm joking. But it actually, it does.

It does. That's one thing I was surprised about. Like, it still gets like, my chest gets a bit pink and shit. So reddish and stuff. Happens to black people too, man. Yeah, I remember when. We can change colors, Mark. That's a little scary.

It's not just special for you. We have the cold, the cold plunge. I heard a good Michael We can change colors, Mark. That's a little scary. It's not just special for you. We have the cold – the cold clenching. I heard a good Michael Jackson joke. Oh, no. Oh, go for it. Good thing we're not live. Yeah, Norm MacDonald was on a show and he said, oh, he said, Michael Jackson's having a kid. And the guy was like, oh, really?

He goes, yeah. And he said, if it's – he goes, oh, yeah. He said he's going to name it. And he's like, he said if it was a girl, that he wanted it to be a boy. And then the guy's like, okay. And he goes, and if he had a boy, he'd have sex

with him. No! No! That was pretty lethal. Oh, did you ever watch the doc? Whatever Neverland or whatever? I didn't watch it because it's just, oh, that's rough. I thought that was pretty ballsy of a joke though.

Yeah. Oh, yo. You got to go there sometimes, you know, once in a while. I'll still bump MJ every now and then. Hell yeah, he yeah he's great i do that i still listen to r kelly you know a lot of evil yeah apparently but he's got jams separate the artist from their actions as best you can maybe uh and sema can go in the cold plunge with you andrew help you out we could cold plunge together like like you on one side me on the other side we're on the same side that's what i was thinking i was wondering like if you like you you said buffer which is a

fun choice of words but like if you're on the same side it might be kind of weird it's like one person might be kind of halfway out of the water a little bit andrew can sit on top of me yeah actually i'll sit on top of you oh i don't know because then i might drown and i just don't move that's what i'm saying oh god that's that's terrifying actually to think about that like like the lid that's on there like if it just closed on you and you just can't get out you're just you can breathe just fine but you'll you're just never getting out yeah yeah that is i wouldn't even try that kidding around i hate shit like that yeah all right strength is never weak this week this never strength catch you guys later bye