Mark Bell's Power Project - Chairs Are Making You Weaker – This Stool Can Change That - Kasey F. Jackson || MBPP Ep. 1110

Episode Date: November 4, 2024

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We talk on the show a bunch about like compressive movements that, you know, build muscle, help build bone density, squats, deadlifts, those kinds of things. Those are all great movements, but we also need to find ways to decompress. For me, you know, a Seiza position is actually something I would have a hard time doing. On this, I can actually sit on this and manage it that way because the spring has given me some support. The hunker and stool originated from the idea of a milking stool. I knew the benefits of resting in a deep squat, but I'm older and I beat up and I've smashed my body. And so I'm like, I wonder if there was a way to make a milking stool

with some springs on it. You can sit on it normally, which is great. But then you can also hit a staza position. You would cross your legs. You could do one knee down, one knee up. Everything that we talked about on the show, getting in different positions, trying to get closer to the floor, it's great for that.

So we've had a lot of urologists on the show and appreciate you coming in, having another urologist on the show, more sex talk on the show here today. What do you guys think? Everybody seems to love it. Yeah. Of all the careers I could have,

I couldn't think I could have been a urologist. That's your favorite profession? No, actually, I would, not a urologist. How'd you come to make these hunker and stool thingies? So the hunker and stool originated from the idea of a milking stool. My grandpa was a dairy farmer. And so he would sit on a little milk and stool

and milk a cow and you're close to being in a deep squat. So I knew the benefits of resting in a deep squat, but I'm older and I'm beat up and I've smashed my body. And so I'm like, I wonder if there was a way to make a milking stool with some springs on it. And so I tried so many different variations, so many different prototypes. We tried doing injection molding and we couldn't do it.

We didn't have enough money to make the injection mold. And so finally we came up with these three conical compression springs where you can rest in a deep squat. Yeah, it gives you good support. For me, unfortunately, my mobility is limited, so I have to figure out a way to navigate getting myself all the way resting on the stool.

But I have a couple of them at my house. You were graceful enough to send me some, and I really appreciate that. And I had to stack some stuff underneath it or sometimes on top of it. But when I get in the right position, it does feel really good. And a lot of times I will sit in front of my TV

and rather than just sitting in a normal chair, I'm on the hunker and stool, getting a passive stretch a little bit through the hips, a little bit through the lower back. Beautiful. The cool thing about the hunker and stool is that it can be used from a therapeutical, from a therapy standpoint,

all the way up through performance. So you can eventually get to rest on a hunker and stool and get lower enough to be able to sit there. And then as you become a better athlete, like somebody like Encima over here, you can use it for actual, for performance to open up your hips and be able to be more mobile. So it has a lot of cool variations you can use it for.

I also like one thing about this is that like, you can sit on it normally, which is great, but then you can also hit a seiza position. You could cross your legs. You could do one knee down, one knee up. And with everything that we talked about on the show, about getting in different positions, trying to get closer to the floor,

it's great for that because maybe you're not quite sitting on the floor, but it encourages you to get into these lower angles, get comfortable getting lower and lower. And at some point, maybe you'll be able to sit comfortably on the floor. You know what I mean? It's a introduction into fitness. Gateway drug, yep. Yep, and so it's not a lot of money.

It doesn't take up your whole house, and you can get it and slowly start getting down into that deep squat and working on your Achilles, your ankles, and your knees. And it's a fun stool. We've got some more stools coming out, but I probably shouldn't talk about it right now. You know, it's, we talk on the show a bunch about

like compressive movements that, you know, build muscle, help build bone density, squats, dead lifts, those kinds of things. Those are all great movements, but they do kind of leave you, they can leave you beat up and they can, you know, make your back tighter. And it is probably part of the reason why my mobility is compromised. But we also need to find ways to decompress and we need to find ways to relax differently.

We need to find, we need new ways to, I guess, like redefine the way that we're even relaxing. You know, a lot of times people just go home and they just kind of plop down on their couch. And that's the end of their day. And they're not really getting in like maybe some of the movement that they should and something so simple as getting on the floor. We've had many guests on the show in the past talking about how just something like getting on the floor

is a version of decompression. Sitting in a squat is a version of decompression. And for me, you know, a SESA position is actually something I would have a hard time doing as well because my legs won't go back quite like that. But on this, I can actually sit on this and manage it that way because the spring has given me some support through some of that movement.

That's really funny you said. The springs are one of the things that makes it different from anything else. Because of the three different conical compression springs, you can move, it articulates with your body. You can't do that on a cushion or a ball. And so the springs are one of the reasons why you're able to get more mobile in different poses

than just sitting on a pillow or sitting on a cushion. And the sad thing today is I see people in society, these young boys and their posture's changing. They've got arched over necks and they have no physical stature and they sit all day on their asses and their glutes are deactivated and turning into jelly. And then they go to try and play a sport.

And they, if a kid is resting on a hunker in stool and he's playing video games on a hunker in stool and it's moving and jumping around, when that kid lines up against a kid that's sitting on his ass all day, I'm putting my money on the kid who's hunkers down all day because he's being able to have that functional mobility and especially people, parents who pay for their kids

to go to a private trainer or even subscribing to people that help in fitness or following Instagram influencers. If you just sit, that's great and go and exercise. Then if you come home and sit on the couch, you're sitting, your glutes are deactivated, and you're going to stiffen and tighten up your hips, your hip flexors.

And then in my experience, from being a college football player to a professional fighter, doing strongman, and being a contractor, some days on my job sites, I was forced to be the crane and the forklift. So luckily I was able to get the job done, but at the end of the day, you're beat up

and you're coming home and you're sitting on the couch and I cannot, I can't sit, that's my cell phone. Should we? Answer it, who is it? Hello? Who do we got? It's a good ringer. I'm kidding. Don't actually answer it. But maybe just so it doesn't ring again.

And get to it. For people that aren't watching YouTube, this guy's a monster over here. He's like 6'4 and 2.99 we'll say. How about that? Does that make you happy? Let's see. 2.99. 2.99, yeah. I don't have to... He's not an ounce over 300.

I don't have to weigh, right, to prove that I'm 2.99. No. Because I ate an IHOP before I came here. How was it? It was subpar. Yeah. What'd you get? A breakfast burrito.

Okay. I would have went to Black Bear, got the volcano. Oh, so the IHOP was close enough to walk from my hotel room. It's great, he's not like, what's the volcano? He's like, no. What is the volcano? Is it actually on the menu? KC, you wanna take this? So, for people that eat a lot of food.

Oh, you know what the volcano is. Oh yeah. Oh wow, shit. It's three big pancakes with eggs, bacon, For people that eat a lot of food. Oh, you know what the volcano is. Oh yeah. Oh wow. It's three big pancakes with eggs, bacon and sausage. But there's a lot of all of them though. Do they call it the volcano because of how it comes out? I don't know why.

No, not unless you drink coffee. Okay. That will help the volcano afterwards. Oh yeah, yeah. That'll help later on. I mean, you don't look like a guy that would know what Black Bear Diner serves, you know what I mean? I sometimes am profiled.

Sometimes it's not bad to judge a book by its cover, right? Yeah, no, but the good thing about being profiled is, is I... That's real though, you really do. Is I'm actually smarter than I look. And, cause that's not a high standard looking like this. Have you invented other things in the past? I have, but not, this is my biggest success thus far.

Are you like handy with your, you know, are you, do you fix shit around the house? Do you build stuff? Did you grow up on a farm or like what's? Yeah, so that brings me to a really cool topic and with my background in martial arts and jiu-jitsu and the samurai lifestyle, there's a term kaizen, getting better 1% every day.

And they have another model called Iki guy. Iki guy. I don't know if I'm saying that right. Sounds good to me. You are. So Iki guy, four points. Your passion, something you're good at, helping others, and a way to make some money.

So I was a builder and my dad's an engineer, so I'm okay at building stuff. And then I'm passionate about being able to move so I can still kick some ass as I'm getting older. I actually, I don't know if I should do this on a podcast. I'm a black belt in jujitsu, but I keep my thumbnail longer. So if anybody fucks with me, the first thing I wanna do is I wanna rip out their fucking

eye, then headbutt them, then crush their testicles, then we'll do some jujitsu. But that, I digressed. So going back to Icky Guy. So something that you're passionate about. And other people have. By the way guys, this man gives to us each an ax. He gave us all axes.

Bringing the violence in. I like it. So the thing is like, you can't be peaceful unless you're capable of extreme violence. If you're not capable of extreme violence, you're just a panting waist poindexter sitting on the sidelines. So you wanna be able to be able to take care of yourself

and not to be a badass or a tough guy, but I guarantee somebody breaks into my house, they're getting fucked up. First house to break into. Yeah, so just still come to my house. Like a giant bear coming after you. You're like, what the fuck? I do think there is something to that though.

There's something to having a capacity, you know, to shit, just to being able to in any way protect yourself, right? To be fast enough, strong enough, schooled enough, whatever, however you want to fill in the blank to at least get out of harm's way to be fast enough, strong enough, schooled enough, however you wanna fill in the blank to at least get out of harm's way because I mean, I don't know what life is,

being smaller or feeling small or weak. I haven't ever experienced that myself. And so I think that if you don't work on those capacities or you don't at least feel, like I've always felt strong and I'm sure someone who knows how to fight can make me feel very weak. I understand that. I've seen enough jiu-jitsu, I've done a few classes.

I know that you can completely nullify how strong someone is, but just having the ability and just feeling strong is awesome, it just feels good. It's a superpower. It's a superpower. We talked about this earlier today. When you take somebody like in SEMA, who's a rattlesnake, and you teach that guy jujitsu,

it's giving a rattlesnake wings. And so that is just, it's just, everybody, here's the deal. Everybody should be a blue belt in jujitsu and everybody should do one round of ayahuasca. Hands down. It's just everybody, here's the deal. Everybody should be a blue belt in jujitsu and everybody should do one round of ayahuasca. Hands down. If everybody was a blue belt in jujitsu and everybody, if you're blasted off

a little bit of bacillus, sybin, is that okay? Can I talk about that? Yeah. Or ayahuasca, be careful doing that one. That will change, that's scary. What'd you learn from that? Oh man, how long is this gonna go for? That's fine, it's serious.

So, plant medicine is a real deal. Right now they're able to use different kinds of plant medicine to help people who have heroin addictions, alcoholism. I've suffered throughout my life with crippling depression, addictions, alcohol. And that's real stuff that you can't just like, oh, tough it out, well, fuck, I'll tough it out.

I'll tough it out till I, Mark, I've ripped both my pecs off my skeletal structure and they didn't reattach. I didn't have any insurance. So now I got saggy boobs, but I mean- You want me to fix them? Yeah. That's why you're here today?

Yes, I need a slingshot pro course to repair my ripped off pecs. And so it's great to tough it out, but if there's chemical imbalances, if there's things that have happened to you in your life that you just don't have any control over. And so I've been working with plant-based medicine for over 20 years.

The first round, I didn't know what I was doing. Just like when I started lifting weights, I didn't know what I was doing. So sometimes when you don't know what you're doing and you mess around with that stuff you can have adverse effects The first time I the first major time I did that I had a psychotic break Alaska this was psilocybin really yeah, okay, I had smoked It's a lot of background history. My buddies were drug dealers,

and sometimes I had to go help them get paid back in the day. This was years ago. Past that's your limitations, by the way. So, dude, I should stop. Dude, I should stop. Today's show is for entertainment purposes only. Yes, but you should stop. No. Hey. Dude, I should stop. Hey, today's show is for entertainment purposes only. Yes.

But you should still get a hunker. Some of the things that we're saying here are just from a character point of view. Yes. Casey's playing a character. From a video game. Trying to sell hunker stools. So anyways, psychotic break.

What's your new game in the 1980s? Smoked a bunch of weed. If you smoke enough weed, and it's legal here in the state of weed. If you smoke enough weed, and it's legal here in the state of California. If you smoke enough weed, you can have psychedelic experiences. And then I was drunk. And then I took a handful of mushrooms.

A handful. A handful. I don't do anything half-assed. I'm not a half-asser. So if I'm gonna do it, I'm like, give me a handful. Fuck it, let's let it rip. And that was a bad idea.

So I lost all, I severed all ties with this realm and I was gone. And it was really bad. I ended up getting tased and arrested and it was really shitty. I cost $5,000 in vehicle damage. I smashed cars like pop cans. But the point of the story is,

I wanna turn this around, is I was able to purge so much negativity, so much of all this negative shit that had happened to me throughout my life, that I purged it out. And I could have done it, I just couldn't say like, oh, I forgive myself,

or I'm gonna let that go, is I literally purged it out with the medicine, which at that time I messed up, taking too much and didn't know how to do it. But then fast forward, I've done a couple of, a few ceremonies with shamans with ayahuasca. And like I said, everybody should do it. It will change your mind. It will change your mind about the way you see the world.

And through humility, I've learned gratitude. And so once you start living, and that goes back to the different chakras, we all have chakras, energy centers. And this is not about powerlifting today. So with the different chakras, you have different, and once you get to your heart chakra and the plant-based medicine can help you shake up and retune those chakras and open up your heart. And once you can get to a point where you're living it

from a place of gratitude and it just changes your life. And partly the inspiration behind these cool, three conical compression springs and the Fibonacci spiral, I don't know. Maybe I'll stand on the forest and take a handful of mushrooms. Let me ask this, because usually, I mean, if we're referring stereotypes, a guy like you that's big, you're strong, et cetera,

doesn't, usually isn't open to these ideas of chakras and something. So was there a shift where you're like, I'm gonna give this stuff a shot, I'm gonna be open to this stuff, or have you always been open to this type of stuff? Well, it's funny. So I have a big background from, I'm from Utah. I grew up in the LDS,

the Church of Jesus Christ Latter-day Saints doctrine. And I still am a member of that. That's not Mormons, is it? That's the Mormons. It is? Oh, okay. And now they don't like being associated as morons. Mormons, sorry, I just let that slip. I don't like it.

I'm a Mormon, so I can say that joke. So they don't like being associated with it, and I can't stand any organization. They said, don't get tattoos. Okay, that worked out for me. Don't drink, well, how many bottles of whiskey? You know, so that didn't work out for me very well. But anyway, so with the background in the religion

is we can eventually go through a humbling process. And I like to refer to it as a refining process, a refiner's fire. And when you pass through a refiners fire, I have it tattooed on my arm actually. So once you pass through a refiners fire, you're able to burn off all these parts of your ego, the part of you that's not your best self

and refine yourself. And that's what happens in a forging process. You have to burn out all the impurities. And so with plant-based medicines, a lot of things, and that's why I say, through going through a refining process, I was humbled. I actually lost both vision in both my eyes. How long?

I had a disease called keratoconus where my corneas would slowly thin and scar. And I had to get a cornea transplant in this eye. Had to get on a waiting list. Get a transplant, organ transplant. And then two months later, so I could barely see out of this eye and then this eye went blind. Two months later, I was at a barbecue and my right eye went out.

So I was blind for about nine months. Not blind like the lights were shut off, blind like I have Vaseline swabbed over my eyes. Wow. Couldn't drive, couldn't do shit, didn't have any money. All my shit got repoed in my house, got floor clothes on, got my ass kicked. That's been a couple of times.

So once you bounce down to rock bottom a few times, you get humbled and you can go, and if you can take that, that ass kicking, and jujitsu's a great lesson from getting your ass kicked. The first day you walk into jujitsu, I guarantee you're not as good as you are now. Oh hell no, you gotta be up by everybody.

Everybody. You? Yeah. So what happened to you the first time you went? I was beat up by everybody. You got beat up in jujitsu? Yeah. How?

It was like a guy that was like 160, 170. Like I was rolling, and when I would roll, I would try to roll with like upper you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like,

you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, and they were still wrapping me up and tapping me. You know? Get humbled. Yeah. So walking through the Jiu-Jitsu door, the first thing you're gonna have to do is you're gonna leave your ego at the door.

And same thing, I had this little skinny guy. I was a college football player, 285 pounds. Could bench, as a true freshman, I was the strongest guy on the University of Hawaii's football team. Guys know about Polynesians? Oh yeah. Mark and they, Polynesians have a different kind of strength.

Anyways, they're like, fuck you, Howie Boy, go back to the Mayland. And I'm like, come on! Anyways, that was rough couple of weeks of getting jumped into the Polynesians. Yeah. But I love them to death, man. I love the Polynesians.

But anyways, you gotta get humbled, man. And so this little kid, he crawled up on my back, choked me out, I'm like, oh, you got lucky. Faster than the second time. I'm like, okay, let's do it. That was back in 1997. Damn. Yeah, so I've been doing a little bit of Jiu Jitsu.

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So I think one of the problems with modern day Jiu-Jitsu is it's too much of a sport. It's sport focused, true. Which is great, but there still needs to be the martial art aspect of it. So yeah, Muay Thai, Krav Maga, boxing, the Russian Sambo, they got the best. And for you guys who don't know what Sambo is,

it's a combination of kickboxing, judo, and wrestling. And they wear headgear and a judo gi and they kick the living shit out of each other. Khabib, undefeated fighter from Sambo, Fedor Emelenko, he's my all-time favorite fighter. He was a Samba guy. You mentioned everyone be a Bluebell. Why? The humility aspect of it, going back to the humility of it.

So if you, and then you know what you don't, you don't know what you don't know. How does that go? You don't know? It's not like you don't know what you don't know. How does that go? You don't know. It's not like you're- Yeah, you don't know what you don't know. You don't know until you don't know it, or whatever it goes. Really bad at this, by the way.

So they, once you learn jujitsu, and then you can protect yourself, and then you realize what you don't know. And then going back to the ayahuasca, it opens your mind. And I think everybody, everybody who's in a political power I don't know. And then going back to the ayahuasca, it opens your mind. And I think everybody, everybody who's in the political power should definitely do a round of ayahuasca. With a shaman, make it legal, it would change your life.

They wouldn't be sending our little boys over to go get killed for some stupid ass reasons. I don't think, that's another story for another day though. Yeah, you mentioned like burning off like, you know, certain aspects, certain qualities of yourself. And I think that when people are thinking, you know, unfortunately there's a lot of people that think about suicide.

There's a lot of teenagers that think about suicide, but what is said about teenagers is that they only wanna kill off the child side of themselves and then they wanna pass into like manhood or into adulthood, however you'd say it. And they don't actually really necessarily wanna destroy their whole self. And so it's just interesting, you're saying,

cause you can take a drug to sort of get you there. And I think that's just fascinating. It's like a spot. You can get to these places through meditation. Sometimes using a plant-based medicine is like a shot in the arm, like steroids. It can get you to your goals sooner. And going back to the religion aspect of it,

going through humility and the depression, and these poor boys, not only are their posture, it's like they are lost. We once had rites of passage. One of the things we used to have to do was like, I've done a lot of strongman and they have manhood stones. The coolest stone in the world is the Hussuf El Stone in Iceland, 408 pounds.

I lifted it up after it had been a whiteout and I almost ripped off both my biceps. I had to scrape the snow off of it to go mess with it. And right now my house, I have a, I have Ulf, it's a 365 pound stone. And I used to pick it up and carry it. Hence the invention of the hunkering stool. I wore my back out.

But so my boys, I have two boys, and if they want to become men, they have to pick up Ulf and carry him, and they have to beat me in a fight. That's beat you in a fight. Beat me in a fight. But by then I'll be old, and so my whole goal is to train my boys,

and I've never been knocked out or broke my nose yet. And so if one of my boys knocks me out and breaks my nose, that'll be the happiest recovery, sitting in the ER, just getting my ass kicked by my tubal ways. So it's not even a grappling match, it's like a fight. So going back to fighting, it's like, it's a chess match. True.

You know, like, I hope they don't like take me down and elbow me and crap my orbital bowl and just kick the living hell out of me. I hope they have enough respect by then that I've instilled in them that if they just kick my ass, they're like, he says that. How old are they? Three and two.

Okay, they got some time. They got some, but the thing is I'm 47. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And so that's going to be a rough day. So I think start every, in a few years, every Father's Day, we're gonna start letting it rip. So I've got like years to kick the shit out of them. Steve, you can bring up that clip of James Harrison

wrestling his kids. Oh, okay. Oh. The guy from The Steelers? Oh yeah. You don't want to wrestle him. No. He's wrestling his sons, man.

Yeah, his kids are, I think they're what, teenagers probably, right? Yeah, they are not nearly as big as him yet, though. So he wrestles them. Yeah, they don't have the weight behind them just yet. And the old man strength. And I'll teach them, but I won't teach them all the tricks. Did you compete in jiu-jitsu for many years and you don't compete currently or?

No, so really quick is I played college football and football's a great game. And it's one ball and you play football, but to fight, you need two balls, and you don't play fight. So I was, I kind of evolved, so I was so big and strong when I was a college football player, I was stiff, I was muscle-bound. And going back to the hips, the mobility,

I could squat 800 pounds raw. Well, knee wraps back then in a belt at football gyms. And so not like a powerlifting sanctioned me, but I was pretty strong as a football player. But when I'd go run and I'd cut, I'd rip off my hip flexor and my groin. And so I was like, damn it, well, I gotta get more functional. So I didn't wanna take taekwondo. I was like, and that was when I started seeing some UFCs. So I was like, damn it, well, I gotta get more functional. So I didn't wanna take taekwondo.

I was like, and that was when I started seeing some UFCs. So I was like, jiu-jitsu. So I started taking jiu-jitsu. And then I was like, going back to like, you need two balls to fight and only one ball to play football. I was like, let's go fight. Is this these guys wrestling?

Wow, there we go. This is a really good hit right here. Tackling them both into the pool. Wow, there we go. This is a really good hit right here. Oh, geez. Tackling them both into the pool. But then he said he took them to Suplex City. Some old school professional wrestling. Professional wrestling, is that anything that ever cost you your mind? So when I was doing MMA, I got hit up quite a bit.

Probably to go to Japan or something like that. To go wrestle, and I just, I don't wanna do the, I should have, I would have made a lot of money probably or at least had the opportunity, but I just wanted to fight. So I dropped out, did football, and then I started doing strongman competitions. I did everything backwards. I should have just played football

and then did martial arts and then went and did strongman. But I wanted to do it all. I wanna I did it, I wanted to do it all. I wanna do it all, I still wanna do it all. I just am getting worn out now. I wanted to ask you real quick. So you had said, you know, picking up that heavy stone, kind of wore out your back, but then you want your kids to prove themselves

by picking up a similar stone. Like, do you, like, again, because we had this conversation beforehand about like how I wanna like bubble wrap the world sometimes because I'm so overprotective. And then I hear that and I'm like, oh shit, man, I don't, like I love the idea of it all. And then I'm just thinking like,

I don't know if I would want my son to do that, but I'm kind of a pussy about it. So that's why I always wanted to get your thoughts on it. So I want my boys to be better than me. I want them to far surpass everything I did. And so I didn't necessarily have, like when I first started doing MMA, I dropped out from playing college football

and just kind of went and started doing it. I didn't learn how to fight. I knew a little bit about Jiu-Jitsu. I knew a little bit about boxing and a little bit about Muay Thai. And that's not the best career to do on the job training. And it was, but once again, you learn those lessons pretty fast. And so I want to teach everything I can to my boys so that they don't have to go through

the stuff I did, but give them the best chance they can do to succeed. But I want them to be men. I want them to be big. I want them to be big. I want them to be strong. I want them to be able to kick people's asses and take care of their families. And so if they get beat up along the way, I want to teach them how to do it the right way.

And I don't want them just to sit around and get weak and soft. Definitely. Yeah. I think they're going to be fine because they're big now. And how big is their mother? Their mother's six feet tall, and their uncles, and my wife's brothers are Division I college football players. There you go.

So, and I feed them raw milk. My boys drink raw milk with colostrum. With colostrum. Blend a little claustrum. Yeah, you know? And when they hit puberty, I'll start sprinkling the creatine in with their raw milk. And right now we have a little homestead urban farm. And the goal is to sell enough hunker and stools to go do a homestead and then have my boys milk the cows

and learn how to work, learn how to fight and be a man. This is James Harrison wrestling his son. He's gonna have his hands full in a few years. His sons are gonna remember this shit. But that's cool, cause now like if he wasn't doing this, though, the kids would be a lot softer. Maybe he'll wrestle my son. Just imagining wrestling a man that just huge.

That's body weight, yo. Massive. What do you do to keep yourself feeling good? Cause you said you're 47, like, and you mentioned your body being banged up. I know you used to use a hunker and stool. What are some other things that you do? I, going back to like having a startup business, I have a new family and, uh, I lived

hard for a lot of years and, uh, my stomach is shot. I just had diverticulitis. Yeah. And so, um, that just killed me. And so now I'm actually able to train. So I spent a lot of time working manually, building my stools, and then I still do martial arts and a lot of fitness training. And I'm trying to incorporate Bill Maeda versus Half Thor.

And so trying to do more functional stuff. And I live up in the mountains, so I hike with my dogs. And since my little boys, they're a little slow. And I'm not a very fast hiker by the way, but get them hiking and run around in the hills. So. Get moving around so the body doesn't turn into rust. No, and the thing too about the great about the hunker still

going back to hunker still is that once we lose the ability to get down to a deep squat, then we start losing the ability to walk and be able to get up and down. And then we fall over and now we've lost the bone density from not being static and not using a hunker and stool or being able to move. And so I'm hunkering down fighting father time

because those boys are coming hard and they're gonna come hard. And so I gotta be ready for those fights. I got two more fights. Two more fights left in you. Two more fights. Is addiction a problem in your family? Is it, and maybe like the area that you grew up?

Yeah, yeah. So addictions, that's just something. If you haven't dealt with it, that's just something. If you haven't dealt with it, it's kind of a hard thing to... I mean, it's kind of everywhere. But like certain areas, like it's just more prevalent than others. Yeah, so in my, in where I'm from, it's a very strong conservative LDS culture.

And there's a huge problem with pornography. Just recently, before I came on your show, I was watching your guys' shows with Dr. Andrew Huberman and some other, you guys have had a couple of shows dedicated to that. And I think that's so huge. People don't talk about that enough. And then, so the addiction, so the addictions to pornography and pharmaceutical drugs. So we have a word of wisdom where you can't drink alcohol or do these other things,

but you can take pharmaceutical drugs if the doctor gives you a prescription. So you can go get oxycodone, but you can't smoke pot. Interesting. Which is gonna make probably a lot of people rebel too, right? Cause you're gonna get a lot of people that are going to go too far the other way because they were suppressed from going. And you take somebody like me who's like, don't tell me what to do because I will go

down swinging fighting. And so they told me all the things I can't do. So I went and did them all. And I had a lot of fun with a lot of them, by the way. But you still sit it like within reason. So, yeah, but going back to the plant-based medicine is that they have proven, this is not me, this is real science behind this,

that with the plant-based medicine, it can open up new neural pathways that haven't already existed. And you still are stuck with the same problems that you have. Just because you take a handful of mushrooms doesn't mean all of a sudden you wake up and you're like, oh, I'm good. You still wake up the next day, you still have, you're broke.

You don't have any money. But you have maybe a different insight where you can be like, well, maybe I can't figure this out. Maybe there is a different angle that I can hustle. And so it's not for everybody, but it's like, well, maybe I can't figure this out. Maybe there is a different angle that I can hustle. And so it's not for everybody, but everybody should find something that works for them. But the thing is you gotta go and move.

You gotta get your fat ass off the couch and you gotta go and do something. Go running, go hiking, go start Jiu Jitsu. And so just keep moving because we only have, I believe that we're spiritual beings having a physical experience. And what we learn here raises, it's like a computer game. What we, the knowledge and stuff we learn here

raises our level in the computer game. I think we're in a simulation, maybe it's called The Matrix, I don't know. But so if we are in the computer game. I think we're in a simulation. Maybe it's called The Matrix. I don't know. But so if we are in a computer game, and we raise our karmic level, then when we move on to the next realm, I think we take that energy with us. But I don't know.

And so if you learn jiu-jitsu, and you learn humility, and you learn gratitude, and you learn all these lessons, then you become a better person. I'd like to think, you know? That's a cool video game, because I hated the video games that when you would die,

you had to start at the very beginning again. So if we're leveling up each time, that's kind of cool. I don't know, though. I don't know how it works, but I think we move on. I don't think this is our one round and we're done. This goes to darkness. Yeah, but I don't know. I actually, I do know.

This is even crazier. All right, let's hear it. So, going back to college football, I was playing football at Cal Berkeley and starting nose guard, six foot three, 285 pounds. I was a machine, had long blonde curly hair. And I was walking to football practice and out of nowhere

I heard a voice that came from a different realm. And it said, it's time. And it was time to go on an LDS mission. And an LDS mission is where you go knocking on doors for two years and you tell people about your religion and your church. And I was like, no, there's no way. As you can see, I don't look like somebody

that would come knocking on your door with a suit and a tie. A biker gang, maybe, but. Not on a bicycle. And they made us wear helmets. There's no way in hell I'm wearing a helmet. So I never wore a helmet. I went to England and Wales for two years.

Oh wow. For that mission? For that mission. Okay. And so I had this crazy spiritual experience. It had nothing to do with religion. And I've since then, when I'm sober by the way, because I've talked a lot about other stuff I've done,

I've had some other experiences with stuff that I can't explain, but it's real. And I can't deny it. And so with that, I think we continue to move forward. And so right now here in this realm, I'm trying to be my best, but I fall short. I fall short daily. I think we all do.

I think, and but like, but the thing is, I think what I think if there is a God, like the master, talk about that guy. If there's a guy that created all this, the God of gods, I just give myself goosebumps, by the way. That guy is a powerful being. And I think going back to Kaizen, if we keep trying, he's gonna like, well, he's kind of a dumbass, that one.

But. I'm talking about me. I'm not talking about you guys, but he keeps trying. He keeps showing up. He doesn't tap. He doesn't quit. And he's like, well, I kind of like, let's give him a break.

Give him a break, you know? So that's the way I like to think about it. Because as a dad, and that's what's really cool too, is that there is a design of an all God. And he gave us these bodies to come here and experience this world, our avatars. He got a pretty good, sexy avatar there. And I've customized mine a little bit, you know?

And hell, but dude, to turn your avatar into a tool and a weapon is so cool. And then he gave us the power of procreation, going back to porn addiction. And the adversary, if there's a God, I think there's positive and negative charges going back to yin and yang. There's an adversary, he wants to do everything he can

to destroy the family. And I think that God gave us this power of procreation so that we would know what it's like to have a child and that we could maybe get a glimpse on how much he loves us when we look into our baby's eyes. And so when I came here today, my little boy, oh man. It's because I got a cornea transplant and one of my corneas was a girl's.

So if I... So if I... So if I... So if I tear up, it's not my fault. Cause I'm telling you. It's not your eyeball. No, it's my weak, it's the weakest. Not that females are weak.

Not that females are weak either. It's my emotional ass cornea. It's the estrogen that came across through the transported cornea. Oh shit. You guys, I'm sorry I've ruined your podcast today. Oh man. Amazing. But anyways, my little boy, dang it, I don't want to do it. My little boy's

name is Niels the Hammer. And he is Niels the Hammer. He, my wife videotaped him and he said, good luck today, daddy. And I was like, damn dude, my heart melted. Oh man. I love these, I love my family and my heartded up into like a ball of good butter and just drained out my feet, man. But yeah, I think there is something to all this, Matrix. For years on this podcast, we've been talking about the benefit of barefoot shoes. And these are the shoes I used to use back in like 2017, 2018, my old Metcons. They are flat, but they're not very wide and they're very stiff and they don't move. That's why we've been partnering with Metcons are flat, but they're not very wide and they're very stiff

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Links in the description, as well as the podcast show notes. Do you ever see a bonus Jones? They were interviewing him and they're like, what do you think your deal is, man? Like you can't seem to head down the right path. Are you just, are you a bad guy? And he said, he goes, yeah, I think I'm a bad guy just trying to do good things.

I saw the exact same clue. And I'm like, holy shit, like that's pretty, pretty amazing. I think we follow the same stuff. Reflect that way. I follow everything you do. And so like,. I follow the same stuff. I follow everything you do. And so like, it came in the same algorithms. But yeah, he's John Bones Jones. He's different than the other fighters.

You know what I mean? Like there's a different, there's some, I know there, a lot of them are wired similarly, but he seems to be wired a little differently. So like in the NFL, you, Dion Sanders, everybody's fast. He's two steps faster. He could just, there's something, some people are so blessed and so gifted

that they're just two steps or one step or half step, whatever that is. And so yeah, Jon Bones Jones is for sure the goat. For sure the goat. But yeah, he's probably a bad guy. But he's trying. He's trying. He's doing his best.

And I think as we come in here as a spiritual being, we go through what we call in my religion a veil of forgetfulness. And we forget who we are and we inherit our ego. And our ego is a part of us. And I used to think that the ego was the enemy. And our ego is a part of us. And I used to think that the ego was the enemy. And I'm like, no, the ego is one of the best things we have.

Like the ego is the one that says, you know, I don't wanna train. And it's like, no, we wanna go train, bro. We wanna go train hard. And, but there's 1%, and I consider it your soulful self, which is your best self. And the goal is to transcend your ego and get to know your best self.

And that's the part that came from God, is your best self. And so we come down here and we get these egos, and some of us get some crazier egos than others, but that's our class. That's our, when you go to college, your curriculum. Our ego is our curriculum. Our ego has us everything that we need to learn to grow to become better versions of us.

So your ego is different than mine. My ego's telling me to try to correct what you said, but I don't know if I could say that word. Curriculum? Curriculum, there we go. My wife's not here to translate, and I'm like, English is my second language. Making up words.

Swearing's my first language. So yeah, please, if I say the word wrong, please try to fix it, or edit it. You're a big guy, man. You can kind of do whatever you want. So if you make up a couple words today, then God bless you. So your nail is facing Mark right now? Yeah. So that's what I'm saying.

I'm thinking about my eyeball and my testicles. It's not that long right now, so you're safe. But I did give you an axe, so that's a fair fight. Thank you for that, by the way. I appreciate it. Thank you for having me here. So like, people want to go and do all this cool stuff. Like the coolest thing I could ever do is come on a podcast with these two awesome guys.

The only thing cooler, I don't know what'd be cooler, is exceptional in all your fields and the knowledge that you pass on and the stuff that you've done. And so the springs kind of remind me of a slingshot. Maybe there was a little bit of influence there, you know, like something to get us out of the hole. What made you stop at Super Training?

Cause you stopped at the old location of Super Training and you dropped off some stools. Well, so my wife's family is in Vacaville, which is right around this area. And so we were there for Thanksgiving and I had just barely finished this. So I was barely ready to go to the world. And I brought one and I said, if Mark Bell and Encima like this, I might be able to sell a few. And then you called me up and said, Casey, we really like this.

I was like, you got to be shitting me. You like it? And sure enough,asey, we really like this. I was like, you gotta be shitting me. You like it? And sure enough, and here I am on the podcast and this is bucket list shit for me. To be able to come on your podcast is like, I've done some cool shit in my life. Like I've been around the world, I've done a lot of cool shit,

but this, I mean, it's pretty damn cool to come on your guys' podcast, so thank you very much. Yeah. You mentioned, you know, depression and stuff like that. You seem pretty happy right now. Yeah. It's really, really difficult to be around you and not have a big smile.

Yeah, you're real loud. It's incredible. Well, you guys told me to talk closer to you. Yeah, no, no, no, no. No, I just mean like in general, you're real loud. Like when I came through the door closer to you. Yeah, no, no, no. No, I just mean like in general. You're allowed, like when I came through the door, you were all fired up.

It's because we used to stand out. I like it because I'm more reserved. So I love when people are that way. I see. Go back 400 years, 12 generations, 4,094 people, and I got that, I could have got that math wrong, by the way. 4,094 people it took to create each one of us here today. And I guarantee in one of those people,

there was a bad-ass dude that walked out into a field and stood strong on the shield wall. And that DNA resides in me now. And so I'm a little loud and a little fucking wild. And because I'm meant to be on the fucking shield wall, not sitting in a cubicle, you know? I'm here to break shit and make shit happen. So anyways, I'm a little loud and a little rowdy,

but I have a great fucking time. I wanted to ask you about, you know, like the depression and like that whole journey. Because again, like I said, you seem great right now. So what was that like? And again, I'm assuming plants had something to do with that. And if so, I would love to hear more about that as well. That's like, see that, so I talk loud and I'm fun to hide the sadness.

I have these big muscles and these tattoos because I used to be a scared little boy and a sad one. And so we do things in our life to compensate for that. And so I got big, I got strong, I know how to beat people up and because there was a little sad little boy there. And so the thing is, I've seen some of these reels where all these weights I've lifted and all the jiu-jitsu I've done is so if anybody goes and mess with that little boy, I'm there now. And so I'm still sad. I still have depression, but it's really hard

to be depressed now. When I was a bachelor and a wild man, and so I'd go out and party and live life. And I thought that was happiness. You know, partying and doing and there's some fun things about that but it's not fun waking up and being sick and hungover. What's pretty damn fun though is when my little boy kneels a hammer, comes in in the morning and he jumps on me with both knees and sneezes me in my side. And then he'll grab my hair and just me in my side. And then he'll grab... They do that. Yes, and he'll grab my hair and, cause there's no rules. There's no rules.

There's no rules. Only thing is I say, bro, try not to slap my eyes. Cause the corneas, my eye can rupture easier. Not the female one either. Yeah, not the 50-50. And so, because of the way I've done over these last couple of years, is the plant bestment I microdosed on psilocybin

and LSD over the years to help counteract those depression. I didn't wanna take a pill because I needed to get to the root. And the root was, is I was sad. And the root was, is I had a hole in my heart. So going back to the chakras, we have stuck energy, porn addiction, definitely stuck in your sacral chakra,

your second chakra, all this energy. We're not good enough. We're worried about money, low back pain. All of these things are stuck in these three bottom chakras. One of the first things that starts to open up your root chakra is the malasana pose, the deep squat. And so as I've been working through yoga and meditation

and plant-based medicines and decompressing. So Mark, I used to be six foot two when I was lifting heavy weights and I wasn't taking care of myself. I had anterior pelvic tilt, my shoulders were rolled over more, and my feet, my arches had collapsed, which then accentuated the anterior pelvic tilt. And so through watching all your guys' cool ass videos and the Power Podcast, I'm like, well, I need to start working on that. And so I incorporate a little bit of Gota inside Acre Bones High, Human Garage, letting go of that fascia and all the stuff you do in SEMA is just amazing. All the spiral energy, man.

Dude, that's where it's at. So I just slowly opened up and retuned these chakras and I got to my heart chakra. And having my little beautiful family, oh man, I can't. My wife's very beautiful as well. And our babies are just, I'm obviously biased. I just look into my little boy's eyes, I was like, talk about anti-depression therapy?

Holy shit. But when I was a single bachelor, thinking I was doing what I was happy was not happiness. Having a family and loving your people and taking care of your people, and it gives you something to work for. So it's still a struggle. But I like a good fight.

You still wanna beat people up? If they come to my house. If they have a little baby girl, her name is Sylvie Sky. She's four months old. Wow. And if anybody ever, I don't care what, I don't care the repercussions. I will rot in prison for the rest of my life thinking about how I murdered and tortured that person. I should have, I should have, I,

I, no, see, this was one of the first things I told in SEMA after I had my son, I was like, oh, I get it. I can see why people kill people. Like, And I hope, I hope that never happens, but like, I'm going to be ready. Like, don't fuck with me or my family.

And that's why I take martial arts. And so, Mark, you're asking me very poignant questions. They're getting me all fired up. How did you learn all this stuff? Do you read a lot? Life experiences? Like, you learn about chakras and all these different, I know you listen to podcasts, obviously.

Only good podcasts, by the way. Badass podcasts. But yeah, going back to the one I said earlier, is like, I literally am smarter than I look, which is in a high level. To be actually smarter than what I look like. But yeah, I study extensively, I read a lot of books. And then through meditation and learning

to get to know yourself, you can start feeling where you're stuck. Like you can start feeling like, you know, like, you know, you go out and you drink a bottle of whiskey, that's not good for you. You know, and especially as we get older, we start aging. It's like, this isn't the life I want to be doing anymore. And so, yeah.

But the thing is, which is really cool, this is a cool story, Shane Carwin, interim heavyweight champion of the UFC, I met him, they called me up a week before the fight. They said, hey, I was living in Hawaii. They said, hey, Casey, do you wanna come and take a fight? I was like, back then I had a hard time getting fights. There weren't a lot of heavyweights. And anyways, had some good fights, had some bad fights.

And they're like, hey, you wanna fight Shane Carwin? I'm like, I don't know who this guy is. This was before he was the interim heavyweight champ of the UFC. I said, sure, I'll take the fight. So I go and fight Shane Carwin. He gets me in a head and arm choke at the Honolulu Blazedale Arena.

And he squeezes it in, and see him, huh? And I was like, he was jacked. No drug tests. He was jacked. Squeezes it, and I go to try to get out, and I was like, oh shit, this isn't going over. He passed out. So the interim heavyweight champion of the world,

who went on to become the interim heavyweight champion of the world, Shane Carlin choked me out in the Honolulu Blaze and I didn't fucking tap. And so with life, going back to depression, I've looked down a barrel of a gun. I've planned it all out, but I didn't tap. So you just gotta keep fighting, gotta keep fighting. Shane Carwin, he had to have special gloves.

He did. His freaking hands were so big. And I had a big head, so luckily he didn't knock me out. Yeah. I got a question for you. I don't know if you've ever been asked this one before, but can you play a guitar? I have diligently thought for my whole life

to play the guitar, but my fingers are so banged up, I have a really hard time getting to the chords. Can you just picture him by a campfire and belling out just being able to sing? Can you sing? 100%. I think I can sing. It sounds like you can sing.

Your voice sounds amazing. You have that voice, yeah. Where I lack in skill, I make up in passion. You go for it. Oh yeah, because I don't give a shit. But yeah, Mark, on my bucket list, like coming to the podcast today is to learn how to play the guitar.

But my fingers are banged up. So maybe when I get more Hunker & Stills sold, I'll have some time to get some more time on the guitar. More people are gonna get this. This thing's amazing. Yeah. Yeah, what was the kind of like last straw in actually putting these things in production

and then starting to actually sell them? Oh, that's a really fun story. So, once again, ass kicked. I had a job, lost my job. Right after I lost the job, T-boned. Total my truck, jacked up my neck. My bulge discs went to herniated discs, so no truck. And then the guy who T-boned me, I got out of the truck

and I said, he fucking T-boned me. I tried to grab him and beat the shit out of him. But the cops were there and they kept me from beating him up. But then he said that I threatened his life. I said, I said, I didn't threaten your life. I was literally going to kick the shit out of you. I got my hands on you, but that's no threat. It's facts.

And so he called the insurance company and said that I threatened his life. So then I couldn't get a rental car. Anyways, shit show, man. So lost my job, lost my truck, couldn't get the insurance stuff handled. And it was coming up to Fitcon in Salt Lake City. This was in 2023, this coming up to the summer of 2023. And I had a couple of rough prototypes.

And my wife said, you know what, let's just rent a booth. We didn't have very much money. So we had to rent the booth and we had to buy the backdrop. Had to put my logo up on the backdrop. And we had a little booth at Fitcon, and because I'm loud and I was talking a lot of shit, and people were like, what is this? I'm like, it's a hunker and stool.

And we've never seen one. I'm like, yeah, because I just barely made it in my garage two days ago and here it is. They're like, what? And I'm like, yeah. And so we sold out in two days. We sold all my hunker and stools. And oh man, there was this older couple that were there.

And they talked to me, they're like, yeah, we love your hunker and stool, we wanna come back and buy it. I'm like, sure, come back and buy it. Didn't see them. At the end of the day, we were wrapping up, cleaning up. They had walked out to their trucks, their cars, and like, we gotta go buy a stool from that guy.

So they came back in and bought a stool from me. And I said, what? Like, I couldn't believe it, that they would actually take their hard earned money and buy one of my stools. And they're like, you seem like a great guy and you're trying hard here. And I was like, dude, talk about,

I just burst down in tears. I was just so thankful. And so before I went out there, I said a prayer. I said, God, let me know if this is something to pursue or if I should take it in the back like Kevin O'Leary and shoot it in the shed, right? And so I sold out and I said, well, hell, I shouldn't swear and print at the same time.

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Um. Um. Um. Um. Um. Um. Um. Um. Um. Um. and try to get it out there to the masses. And going back to icky guy, this can really help people out. And so my mom, when I was blind, had stage four colon cancer.

And so I couldn't do anything, I couldn't see. She's like, hey, you wanna come to the doctor with me? I'm like, sure, got nothing going on. I'm out of money and I can't buy any more alcohol. So she comes and gets me. And she was a medical transcriptionist and she would sit down all day and type. And I wish I could have had a hunger install for her

then she could have been able to move around a little bit more and not just sit static for 10, 12 hours a day in a static night. I'm not saying this cures anything. I'm just saying it helps you rest comfortably in a deep squat and the benefits of that are speak for themselves. So that's all I got with that.

But anyways, it's been a fun project. It's a great time to be on the show today. Appreciate it. Where can people find it? Where can they buy a hunker and stool? www.hunkerin, that's no G, going back to my lack of spelling prowess. Hunkerinstool.com and then we're on Instagram and we're going to be coming up here on Amazon. But right now I can't make them fast enough to get on Amazon, so we want to solve that

problem and start selling them. Congratulations on a great product. Strength is never weakness, weakness is never strength. Catch you guys later. Bye.