Mark Bell's Power Project - Dan Bilzerian vs Mike O’ Hearn - Setting Unrealistic Expectations for Men? || 797

Episode Date: September 6, 2022

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Hashtag blessed, I always like. Did you actually use hashtag blessed? No. I mean, maybe as a joke. In our society today, it seems like we pinpoint the problem that we have with somebody or with something, and then everything about that person gets dismissed or missed in some way. Jacked in an amazing shape for a dude that's doing every steroid. Like, I don't get it with him because

he's like a great looking dude he's tall he's jacked does he have a two inch like what is it like what the i look at him compared to other 52 or 53 or even just any bodybuilder that's in their 50s natural or not and it's just like you don't see guys hanging around doing the type of stuff he's doing that long where are the guys that he uh competed against i don't know maybe i'm wrong but i've been always been under the assumption that when you do a lot of steroids like he said every single steroid it kind of ages you it's yeah promoting those duck eggs has now become uh it's now synonymous with him even though that is a blem, I still think what he's doing is super impressive. I actually still believe he's natural.

Performance enhancing drugs. What? A steroid cannot kill you, that I know of, in a short period of time. Even the way everything's being talked about, it's very, like it's very 90s. Performance enhancing drugs. Like a witch hunt. Yeah, right? It's a lot like that.

Yeah. This is the thing, though. But it's good. It is good. It's good. And, like, okay, so. But what about your gut microbiome? He was talking about, like, oh, people used to smoke cigarettes and say it was good for

your health, right? And then we find out lung cancer. Well, there are already people who are like, artificial sweeteners are Satan. And although I don't think they're Satan, there's probably something wrong. Let's just say somewhere in the future, Joel Green or somebody is like,

guys, like, holy shit, like this new research shows that like, they're actually pretty bad. They're so ingrained into everything that we will never hear about it. That person that figures that out will disappear and artificial sweeteners will remain perfect for the rest of our lives. So drink up.

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links to them down in the description as well as the podcast show notes no we don't even have we don't even have material and that was like material that was stuff we could take to the stage probably no we're talking about my bad we this. Just tell us you're still not recording. Okay. And then we'll have stuff that's actually funny. Let me hit stop. I want everyone to reminisce back on the early days of Instagram when you had a really cringe shit like every fitness influencer

was hashtagging, what's up, my fit fam? You know, time to go get in this work. Hustle. You know, all that shit. in this work. Hustle. Hustle. All that shit. Some people are still doing that shit. Hashtag team no days off. Remember that? Hashtag team no days off. Yeah, that was good shit. Hashtag blessed

I always like. Did you actually use hashtag blessed? No. I mean, maybe as a joke. I just think it's funny. Yeah, man. Yeah, if you scroll back, this shit gets real cringy because I would be like, great, what did I say? Awesome day at the hashtag gym. Got in a great hashtag leg sesh. I wouldn't hashtag at the bottom.

Yeah. It would just be throughout the whole post just because I was like, oh, I don't want to do that bullshit, but hashtagging everything at the bottom. I'm at the iron church. Oh my God, man. I don't break bread. I'm breaking these weights. Yeah. Jim is your drug of choice.

The gym is my drug of choice. I don't, I don't drink, but I drink way. It's like, I know people who did that shit. And I'm no better because if you go deep on my shit, there is some, I have some photos that I really should just archive. Fitness stuff is always just kind of, fitness stuff is always kind of fucked. You know, because like we're talking about stuff that we really enjoy. Yeah, that's true. You know, so like someone saying that they're super dedicated because they

paint every day but they're a painter you're like well okay that's so true I paint every morning 5 a.m. it's like well that's

what you love to do you probably set your whole life up for that it's just like what you did with lifting I'm out here on a run and it's fucking 9,000 degrees

like I posted the other day right it's just stuff that we love to do yeah this is what we like to do we're meatheads we don't know no better it is motivated I mean something like no but that it's funny it's different but it's motivating but like sometimes it's just sometimes I read certain captions man I'm just like man you don't realize how you sound like dog I know one person

I ain't gonna say names I know this person and go through your followers and figure it out you won't I follow 3000 plus people you won't figure it out but when he talks about himself he talks about himself in the third person the rock says He talks about himself. He talks about himself in the third person.

The rock says. And some of his shit will be like, sometimes X wakes up in the morning and he's referring to himself. So let me just, I'm just going to use my name sometimes. And SEMA wakes up in the morning and he doesn't want to, he doesn't want to work. Sometimes in SEMA feels tired. You should do that sometimes and sema feels stressed but you know what and sema does he gets up he gets going he puts on his shoes

he goes to the gym and he pumps it out because that's what winners do he does it anyway liver king it's not liver king no it's not liver king this is just this is literally a homie of mine that is that that does the fitness stuff yeah right and he has a good following too but i'm just like dog i literally i want to scratch myself because it's so cringe like you don't oh yeah that's when you got to do like the unfollow but the unfollow that they can't find out about right there's a way to do that like the unfollow, but the unfollow that they can't find out about, right? There's a way to do that or something? No, you can't.

They will see. People that have those apps. You can hide their thing or something. You can hide. You can mute them. Yeah, when you do that, they can't figure it out, right? I like reading this shit because it's like entertaining. It's cringe, but it's also like, ooh, you really said that shit.

You know, it's entertainment too. But again, I bet you I could find some cringy shit back in your old post. ah you you really said that shit you know it's entertainment too you know but again we are i bet you i could find some cringy shit back in your old post everything i do is cringy because i'm like out of touch with reality i'm fucking white and i'm rich and i'm not getting any younger god i don't know what the fuck's going on oh you just make me it just reminds me of that Amanda was here. And you made that comment on tea. Oh, yeah. Tea is dark, though. I know.

At least you saved it compared to Ben Patrick. Like, Ben Patrick is translucent. That was good. Yeah, yeah, he's white as fuck. That was a good save. Because for a second, I was like, oh, no, we canceled. That's so funny. Oh, she was funny as fuck.

But I do have a homie. Like, in his household, he's Congolese, right? Just hanging. Oh, we're not talking about that. Actually, bro. The Congolese, they got that reputation, right? Actually, yes. Statistically, they apparently have the biggest dicks.

One time when we were 16 years old, this motherfucker, I was sleeping over at his house. I guess he knew he was fucking hanging. So I'm just chilling. Of course he does. I'm just chilling. He comes out of the doorway just like naked and shit. I'm like, bro, like, dude. This guy has a reputation of showing his dick.

You're like, dude, that's gross. Hold on. Come back for just a second. I'm like, wait a second. Holy shit, bro. Okay. Let me take a better look. He has a reputation for flashing people because he knows what he's got. I'm just like, all right, you know what? Yeah, bro. Okay. Let me take a better look. He has a reputation for flashing people because he knows what he's got.

I'm just like, all right, you know what? Yeah, cool. You don't need to do that shit to me. That's what I always think, man. If someone's really packing, like a lot of people are going to know about it. Right? Just got to figure out a way to slyly just whip your shit. Like if it's way out of the ordinary big, right?

Like people are going to know. People are going to know. Oh, sorry. Whoops. My bad, bro. Didn't mean to dip that in your butter. Oh, my God. I love it.

I love the way we start these podcasts, man. It's so good. It's so good. But we're about to bring up a video of our favorite guy. We are gross. We are just disgusting. Oh, yeah. Man Crush Monday. Perpetual Man Crush Monday.

For all the time. Mr. Mike O'Hearn. The guy's on so much trend. It's like, dude, just come forward and tell everybody. There's no way to be that jacked and that handsome. And he's like 50-something years old. 53? Yeah, 53, bro.

We worked out with him. The guy doesn't even train that hard. He doesn't lift that heavy. The form is way off, right? I mean, he makes everything look like a million pounds, even though it's light. Just because he's doing drugs every day. He doesn't lift that heavy the form is way off right i mean he makes everything look like a million pounds even though it's light just because he's doing drugs every day he doesn't really work out he does it all for the gram it's it's not real it's all he didn't even used to train before social media came he got into it because of social media that's why he lasts so long because he started training later started and just started yeah yeah i mean you

mix you blend that together with some good genetics i mean how much work is he really doing does he even have good genetics isn't it like kind of photoshop because i remember i stood next to him and you've made him look made a fucking ridiculous yeah he's just i i don't know these are all lies by the way at least most of it. Yeah. He's strong. No, Max's the real deal. He wakes up every morning super fucking early, gets to the gym between 4 and 5 a.m., and he's been throwing down for, I don't know, 40-something years of lifting. Yeah.

Yeah. I mean, yeah, he started when he was 12 or 13 and just never looked back. And he was big when he was young. and just never looked back. And he was big when he was young. He's still big. When he won some of his natural bodybuilding competitions or tested bodybuilding competitions many, many years ago, he looked almost the same as he does now.

His physique, I guess, has changed a bit. Like you could say he maybe got more dense. His body's like thicker because he got more mature at some point. But he looks amazing. He looks amazing. And I think the thing that always bugs me, so I understand how people can be frustrated if somebody's lying. Because we just don't like that. We don't like being lied to.

It's a little grassier. Yeah, did y'all do something different? I don't know that. Like, we don't like being lied to. It's a little grassier. Yeah. Did y'all do something different? I don't know. It tastes. It does taste different. So you. Yeah, I'm not tripping.

Okay. It tastes different. Yeah. It does taste different. It tastes different. Unlabeled Kratom's laying around. Wait, so is the unlabeled Kratom different than that? I don't know.

They were just put in my office and I was like, this is, this is great for sure. I'll take some of these. I thought they were just, sometimes they give me ones that have like messed up labels. Because like we obviously don't want to sell those. And so I thought it was something like that, but I don't know. All right. Well, we'll see what happens. I don't know.

Maybe it's fucking like LSD or something. I don't know. Create them laced with psilocybin. That'd be interesting. But you're saying. Anyway. Yeah. Mike has been crushing it for a long time.

He's looked similar for a long time. So, you know, if he has been using stuff, he's been using it for, you know, decades, I guess. But aside from the steroid thing, because I don't like the fact that in our society today, it seems like we pinpoint the problem that we have with somebody or with something and then everything about that person uh gets dismissed or or missed in some way and uh i saw this clip of dan bazarian and uh uh derek from more plates more dates talking about o'hearn and i'm just thinking like, you know,

Derek didn't chime in too much, but I'm kind of thinking like both guys kind of, I think they both missed the point that like Mike, he trains really hard and really specifically for these particular results. Yeah. And you can't take that part away from him. The steroid thing,

I guess you can believe whatever you would you would like uh but what i what i believe is that when somebody is uh showing some sort of miraculous feats of strength or physicality especially with someone that's getting older you know starting to be like close to mid 50s it's pretty fucking impressive regardless of kind of how they're doing it. And let's not, let's not completely scratch out all the facts about the guy waking up early every single day and training his face off for so many fucking years. Um, again, we don't like being lied to. So I can see how people could say, I, you know what, I don't like this part, uh, about somebody. And, and I don't like this part about somebody. And I don't

know if I'm getting told the truth or not. But the fucking guy, he puts the work in and he puts the time in regardless of whether he does take anything or not. And, you know, it's funny. Like when I look at Mike again, he's like 53, 52 or 53. I look at him compared to other 52 or 53 or even just any bodybuilder that's in their 50s natural or not and it's just like you don't see guys hanging around doing the type of stuff he's doing that long where are the guys that he uh competed against right you know like you don't really see them I mean they're not they're not on social media as much and stuff because they're not as jacked they're probably not in the shape. There might be a couple outliers out there, but I haven't really seen them. Yeah.

So despite what anyone may think about him, one thing that has to be acknowledged is, number one, the consistency over decades. And the way he's moving is still impressive. The way he moves is still impressive. He's made it a habit and a lifestyle because to this day, the dude is getting up at four, going and training at Gold's Gym. Like that's his habit. How is he not injured?

How is he staying low body fat? I mean. He bulks, but he's still like when his average is still like probably 10 or 11%. That's what he chills around. I mean, I know that performance enhancing drugs can assist with your body fat levels and stuff, but they don't eat for you. They don't make the decisions for you. They don't make the choices to eat the way he eats.

A cheat meal for Michael Hearn is eating some fucking strawberries, pretty much. I mean, the guy is super diligent. Anyway, let's run this clip, and we'll just check some of it. I don't think you guys even had an opportunity to check it yet. I haven't seen it. Okay, let me make sure I got the audio. There we go. Pern guy, like, oh, I eat duck eggs, and I'm just, like, more jacked and shredded

than most of the guys that are, like, fucking competing professionally. The thing, though, is when he sells it, too. Yeah, it's so ridiculous. It's like you need 1,800 bucks per, like, box of duck eggs. Like, here's the thing, dude. Like, you're fucking jacked in an amazing shape for a dude that's doing

every steroid. Like, I don't get it with him because he's like a fucking great looking dude. He's tall. He's jacked. Does he have a two inch dick? Like, what is it?

Like, what the fuck is wrong with you, dude? I don't get it, man. He's aging like incredibly well in everything too. Dude, give me that fucking guy's genetics, man. Like, love of god i mean hats off much respect to him aside from like his fucking lying about his juice use which i think is like almost comical

at this point but the problem with it is like here's the thing man i don't give a fuck what you do the problem is like if you're michael hearn and you look like a fucking greek god at like 50 whatever the fuck he is like grandpa age and you're trying to tell people that you're natural it just like fucks up the confidence of a lot of guys this is fucking mike o'hearn it's a interesting uh commentary in so many different ways like at the end he he's like uh says give me his genetics yeah so then which one is it is it genetics is it the steroids or is the combination like the guy's trying to conjure up as many things as he can on why he doesn't look anything like that

very good point but also like they they both said like he looks good and he's aging really well and i i don't know maybe i'm wrong but i've been always been under the assumption that when you do a lot of steroids like he said every single every single steroid, it kind of ages you. Yeah. I've seen people where I'm like, fuck, dude, that guy's probably like my age or maybe a little bit older. And then I get to know the person and it's like, you're 24? Oh, fuck.

Like how long have you been running fucking trend for? Dude. You know, like, so in my experience that has been the case so it's it is funny how he was like he's on every single steroid but then oh but he's aging well so uh yeah i know it was almost like they were talking shit and they kind of wanted to give him a couple compliments and then kind of went back to it yeah it's it's interesting because um the duck eggs thing we can't skip over that the duck eggs is bullshit we we know this over that. The duck eggs is bullshit. We know this, right? Does he still sell them?

I don't think he does. I don't think he does. You know, what I think is like, a lot of- I wonder in what regard, though, it would be bullshit. Like, what was he, did he promote that, like,

he specifically looks that way because he eats duck eggs, or? He promoted that, like, I think the duck, okay, we should look up, but I'm pretty sure the duck eggs were promoted as a testosterone enhancing supplement, but I want us to make sure so I don't misrepresent anything. Okay, we should look up. But I'm pretty sure the duck eggs were promoted as a testosterone-enhancing supplement.

But I want us to make sure so I don't misrepresent anything. What about like Ducet? And what about Derek? I think they hustle terkesterone, and they talk about the impacts of that and how that works like a steroid. Yeah, duck eggs, $1,800. Like this is a thing. Does terkesterone work like steroids? Some people think it does.

I don't have a take on it. Yeah, I don't think terkesterone work like steroids? Some people think it does. I don't, I don't, I don't think, yeah, I don't think it's for Castorone. And then I think both, I think, well, one of the companies got found that like there wasn't to Castorone in there. So, but duck eggs again, not like, but this is the thing back in, I guess maybe years ago, um, a lot of companies, when they started doing influencer marketing, I don't know what happened with Mike, but some people get offered a lot of money to say this or I take this. And even in magazines back in the early days, these bodybuilders would be like, my whey protein made me huge. And now people are smarter and they understand how these things work. So maybe it was a mishap or I would say, you know, it's probably a mistake on his part.

Because now that working and promoting those duck eggs has now become, it's now synonymous with him perpetually for the rest of time. Everyone will think of duck eggs when they think of him. But at the end, like I still, even though that is a blemish, I still think what he's doing is super impressive. And I actually still believe he's natural because of how long he's been doing this and because of what he looked like when he was younger. Like most people do not make things habitual like he has. And on the show, over everything we do, like there's a lot of products we use. We use a mattress to help us sleep better. We use barefoot shoes. There's a lot of products we use. But the biggest thing that allows us to continue progressing and continue making progress are the habits that

we put in on a daily basis. The habits that Mike has put in on a daily basis, he has shown it. We have seen it. You can't deny it. Right. And others just haven't been able to do it like he has. I've been on steroids for a long time. I don't look like him. I just don't. And there could be many reasons why. But I think that he outworks me, you know, when it comes to lifting. He loves lifting. He loves, you know, we've trained with him. I think that's the other thing, too. So like, I'm always going to defend him. I've been friends with him for a long time, and I've lifted with him many times. And I've seen, like, he's, like, taught me a lot of stuff. We share a lot of stuff. So we're friends.

So, of course, I'm going to, you know, defend him in some ways. But, again, as far as the steroid thing goes, I don't know. I don't really know whether he does them or doesn't do them. That's not really my main concern. My main concern is the fact that once somebody hears something negative about somebody, they throw everything else out. And I just don't think that's a good idea. Like you pointed out the habits, like there's a lot of great habits. There's a lot of great things. Can you still learn how to get bigger arms from Mike O'Hearn? Yeah, he can. And you don't need to take steroids if that's something that he does. You

know, it's just, I think we miss out on a lot unfortunately yeah and you know i mean dan's cool and all and number one i probably would assume that dan doesn't work out as much as mike does even though dan's in great shape he has said he takes certain things but his focus is making money and fucking a lot of girls and that's not necessarily a bad thing but he does not at work. He does not probably do the same amount of fitness as Mike has at all, like not even fucking close. So when he mentioned like, you know, you're putting this false whatever in so many people's minds, right? It's just like, ah, dude, Dan, this dude's like has millions of dollars and he always has 10, 20 women hanging around him.

When a young man sees that, is that something that most men are going to be able to achieve? No. Is it a good confidence booster for people? Is it a good confidence booster for people? You are a guy who is attractive and making potential millions, and you have some sort of way to be of benefit to all these different hot women. Are guys going to be able to achieve that? No, but guys are consistently looking and liking Dan's shit and saying, that's so badass, I want that.

But guys, most of y'all, 99.9% of the men watching his content will not be able to get anywhere close to that type of lifestyle. So, this whole, you're putting weird things into the minds of young men, dog, you're doing the same shit in a potentially worse fucking way. It makes no sense. And I think it's safe to say that statistic about the 99.9% of the demographic

can't be a millionaire and do all that shit. I would say it's the same statistic for looking like Michael Hearn at 53. Looking at Michael... Yeah, yeah. But this is the thing. This is the thing.

Now let's look at Mike's habits. Let's look at the thing he does. If any person were to just take the habits of what he does and put them into their life for a good period of time, would they look substantially better and be substantially healthier? Of course. to their lifestyle, would they get anywhere? Like, you know, I don't know his background. I know he has a lot of money. I'm not sure how he made all his money. I know that he works with a lot of women, but I don't think he really outwardly teaches it. Doesn't teach it. He has a book where he's talked about like his life and he's talked about how like there are aspects of what he does that he doesn't even think is good. Right. But at the end of the day, it's like, who is probably of healthier benefit to pay attention to their daily habits?

Who's healthier? Who's the person to really maybe pay attention to for motivation? Probably Mike. Well, especially because Mike is sharing that information. So Dan, from my understanding and from what I've seen, I don't think he shares that that often. And maybe if he did, maybe he would be of equal benefit in some way because maybe he's got a lot of great things to say. He probably does. I'm not trying to say that Dan Bilzani does have a lot of great things to say because he's definitely figured out a way to make tons of money.

And everyone wants to make more money, right? And he's found a way to be of benefit to women in terms of their social media so that they all come and hang out with him and take pics with him and probably fuck him. Right. So any guy who's looking for that could probably get some good tips from Dan for that shit. So I'm not saying he doesn't have great things to say, but I'm just like the whole thing of like, oh, he's putting false expectations like, dog, you are doing the same shit in a potentially worse way. It's not.

Let's not. Let's not go down that route. I don't know. I just I always find a lot of this stuff to be super interesting because I don't know what's right. that route. I don't know. I always find a lot of this stuff to be super interesting because I don't know what's right. Jordan was sponsored by McDonald's. I don't know.

But if McDonald's was going to give any one of us some crazy amount of money... I like the chicken nuggets. I love McDonald's. It's amazing. us you know some crazy amount of money um i like the chicken nuggets well yeah i love i love mcdonald's it's amazing so that that's what we could say is like hey this is something that you you know this is something that you might do on occasion like go to mcdonald's fucking tastes good yeah so i mean it's just it's kind of hard to like always put like morals into every little

thing sometimes um i don't even i'm not even fully aware of like what Mike did with the duck eggs, but. Did you find that or no? It's kind of old now. So I wasn't able to find much other than just people talking shit about it and it costing $700 for a carton. That's really interesting

because I wonder what the deal is with those particular duck eggs because duck eggs are like, they're at stores and they're not expensive. Yeah. Well, you know Mike's potentially going to be here soon. So we're going to be able to talk about a lot of stuff.

Duck eggs do have cholesterol. Cholesterol is the backbone of testosterone. So maybe he's got a point. Maybe we can all start to eat some duck eggs and get jacked. Hey, you give me some duck eggs for free i'll for sure eat that shit that's right for free though it was so funny i was telling owen what i eat for breakfast yeah i was like yeah you know i eat like 10 eggs and then you know i kept going and he's

like wait what i was like what he's like you eat 10 eggs and i was like yeah he's like like egg and like the yolk and the white and everything i'm'm like, yes, dude, with four slices of toast. And he was blown away. And then I was talking about getting B-roll for this video that we're doing. Yeah. And he's like, yeah, yeah. He's like, but I don't even care about the B-roll. I just want to see it.

I was like, it's not that much, dude. It's pretty easy to get through now. And you poach those things, right? Yeah, sort of. Yeah, I guess that's one way to do it. One thing I've never been able to really get over is like I have a limit for how many runny eggs I can eat. It's like after I eat four or five, I start to feel nauseous. They're good. And then they just start to feel like slop.

I do. And I just can't get over that. With toast, it helps. With toast because you can wipe the slop up. Yeah, it's so good with that. Yeah. Just dump salt everywhere. It starts to get heavy on your stomach after a bit.

It does. Right? It really does. Yeah, 10's the limit right now. Mm-hmm. Yeah, let's see what happens. Check out the Navy SEALs being on PEDs. You have that clip?

Yeah, I had it. Fuck, lost it. I'll find it. This is so interesting. So, full disclosure, I also didn't, like, I saw it, but I wasn't able to watch it. So this will be good to see. But, yeah. I mean, fuck, if anyone's going to be on some shit, monitor armed forces.

That's an odd, you know, yeah, let's wait for the clip because I don't want to say anything before. There's another interesting thing about, you know, them mentioning that Mike is aging well. So, like, that, you know, if he is on stuff, if he is on stuff and he is lying about it, I mean, it's just. Can he share how good, like how he's doing such a good job with it? It's just more, more promotion for PEDs. Oh, he just went to the end. Oh, did I? Yes.

No way. Oh yeah, you hit, you hit the button. Oh, did I? Yes. No way. Oh, yeah, you hit the button. Oh, this is what I'm looking for. Here we go. Tonight, the new report alleging widespread use of performance-enhancing drugs among trainees months after a SEAL candidate died shortly after completing what's called Hell Week. Here's Martha Raddatz. Tonight, the Navy's most elite unit, the SEALs, rocked by allegations that candidates trying to complete its infamous hell week are using performance-enhancing drugs.

What? The investigation beginning after 24-year-old Kyle Mullen died just hours after finishing the grueling course last February. The New York Times says in the course of the investigation, the Navy discovered syringes and performance-enhancing drugs in his car and later discovered about 40 candidates had either tested positive or had admitted using steroids or other drugs in violation of Navy regulations. Mullen's autopsy concluded he died from bacterial pneumonia and did not have drugs in his system at the time of death. His mother, Regina Mullen, adamant that while he'd considered it, he did not use drugs. Could have been from the other man that he was hanging out with, unfortunately. The Navy SEAL trainees have a far higher death rate than other special operations forces. And now the investigation into alleged drug use is one more demoralizing and dangerous development i wonder you know over the years how

many people have died you know i would just guess that they've had many people die uh from that kind of training i would imagine like just probably within a couple of weeks after, I would imagine that some people die. Like that's a training is really hard. There's a lot of people that, uh, will push and push and push and go as hard as they can. And maybe they change some of the regulations and how they do it nowadays versus the way they used to do it. But I would imagine there's probably, unfortunately, a lot of people have died from that kind of training. Yeah. It's super hard training. And if someone isn't prepared, like if the body isn't prepared for that yeah he apparently died of bacterial pneumonia but the thing that's really odd is the that the military isn't allowed to use performance enhancing drugs yeah because they're they're the military these like these

people need to be in fucking combat so if there's if there's anyone that we want to have the super soldiers here, it's going to be those guys. But an aspect that they were talking about in terms of, oh, all these guys tested positive. It's like, I think if they have some education on how to do this stuff safely for these guys. Man, I wanted an enhanced military yeah i mean testosterone is supposed to be pretty like good for concussions and uh ptsd and just your mental health and all kinds of things um you know interestingly enough i you know they talked about there was peds found you know in the car. I just kind of wonder, like, what they would be, you know, because if, like, a steroid cannot kill you that I know of in a short period of time. Steroids can kill you over time because they can do things like raise your blood pressure.

They can, it appears that like in large dosages, it could be bad for your organs, including like your heart and things like that. But you could take an entire bottle of testosterone, 10 ml, 20 ml and shoot it. And the worst thing that might happen to you is you might get like just really fucked up from all the oil that you shot. And that would be painful, it would hurt, but it certainly

wouldn't kill you, and even if it was Trenbolone, and even if it was any other steroid that I'm familiar with, in terms of anabolic steroids, there's not an amount that I think you could take that would kill you. Oral steroids, you might be able to take so much that it's like so toxic to your body that you could potentially die from that. What's the difference? Why? Just because they're pills, you know?

And like, fuck, man, I just think if you take way too many pills of anything, you could potentially fuck yourself up. Okay. The difference also is with oral steroids, supposedly they have to pass through your liver multiple times due to the way that they break down. And so it could have more liver toxicity to it. But again, that would be really far-fetched. I don't even understand any mechanisms

that would happen in those terms. But if there were PEDs and PEDs were at play and it was something that, I don't know, contributed to the death in some way, it would have to be like EPO or something like that. Like, you know, something that's for respiratory, something that's for like, you know, enhancing endurance or something like that. Yeah, I wish they could have. I mean, I know it's the news and they can't really give specifics, but I would like to know what they actually did find.

Because, like, you're right. Maybe they did find EPO. Oh, shit. Okay, well, that does make some sense. But if it was test, I'd be like, okay, that definitely wasn't it. Because, yeah, I'd rather shoot an entire bottle of test than, like, take an entire bottle of, like, Tylenol, right? Like, that shit would fuck me up.

Or even caffeine the caffeine yeah like you take large dose caffeine i'm not saying the steroids aren't they don't they're not without problems there certainly can be with tons of problems but uh to like kill you in a day you know would would be really because like i'm imagining that this guy is like probably just on like a cycle he's a guy. It doesn't look like, from the picture, it doesn't look like he's using tons of steroids or has a history of using tons of steroids. So even if he did it for a few weeks, it's just not enough to do much of anything unless he was messing around with insulin or EPO or something like that.

And I definitely don't want to sound heartless or, you know. No, it's a tragedy, yeah. Yeah, because the report that we just watched, somebody lost their their life and then we're talking about our fucking military men you know the people that are putting their neck on the line for us to be able to fucking have a dope podcast right now but it just it seems a little silly to me to be like oh you can't you can't take peds but here's this gun uh go protect you know us or whatever you know i what I mean? It seems so lopsided. Yeah, it's weird that they were rocked is what the title of the article was.

Yeah, even the way everything's being talked about, it's very 90s. Performance enhancing drugs. Like a witch hunt. Yeah, right? It's a lot like that. Yeah. But it is a lot like that yeah but you know it's it is a complicated type of thing because okay i i think it would be great if people in the military could

use peds in a safe manner that would keep like that would improve them and keep it like keep everything healthy because number one like how weak these guys are getting deprived of sleep like all the things that are supposed to help you recover, the individuals are getting deprived of. And many of them may have never been deprived of something like this in their entire life. So they probably don't even know how to handle that stress. Some of them, right? But, you know, the thing that we're seeing on our fitness side of things and the fitness industry is young guys fucking 16, 17, 18 and shit on TikTok that are, that are like hopping on shit. Right. And it's like, I think it would be great if we could give PEDs and it

would be legal for people in the military and maybe legal in general, but there's aspects of where, especially when people want to, you know, change their bodies fast, they don't implement all the habits and things that we continue to talk about that are going to make the biggest difference. They immediately go to the supplements, the drug, the thing that will make it fast. And therein lies the risk. Therein lies the risk of the individual because people don't want to take time with this type of shit. People want it now. And if I can just take more drugs to get it now, that's where shit goes bad, especially with the general population.

The people that don't have the habits will be very disappointed in the impact of steroids. They would be very disappointed. They'd be like, what? I thought this was going to do so much more for me. Now, if you have the habits and you're already into it, then you're really pleased with it. You're like, oh, okay, this is kind of neat. Like, this is really cool. I can't

believe my body's responding like this. It's newbie gains all over again. And it's very, like, it's actually exciting and it's fun. And you're encouraged to go to the gym because you're like, I'm getting a little bigger, a little stronger, stronger, like fucking often. So this is incredible. I would say, again, I believe what's at fault here, if there is a fault, like I just think that potentially the training is probably what ran him down and probably what made him sick in the first place, like probably made him very vulnerable. We know that deprived sleep can sometimes lead to,

I mean, it can lead to all kinds of stuff. That's how we get sick a lot of times. Something's off in the body and we become something, because there's shit flying around all the time. Bacteria's flying around all the time. We're disgusting. We're touching each other

and there's shit in the air and there's all kinds of stuff going on. So normally the body, under normal circumstances, can handle all that. We could process it. If it blows up the bathroom here, Andrew and I, as long as we got our sleep,

we don't have to get ill from it. Yes. Yeah, and I did blow up that bathroom. It was a close call yesterday. It's like, hey, time the podcast. He's like, got to shit. It's, you know, that's, I think, I don't know. Remember?

It's like Pavlov's dog or whatever, right? It is. Every single time when I was getting ready to do a big squat, and there was never a single time I could do a big squat without having to take a dump. And it's like every single time we're about to podcast, I stand right here. I'm like, I'm ready. And I'm like, all right, give me five minutes, guys. Let's go get this out.

I don't know. Yeah, it is like a Pavlov's dog thing. My body knows. Yeah, my coffee in the morning is kind of funny because I don't even have to drink it. You just got to look at it. Yeah, I just get the coffee in the cup and I leave it there for a minute. And I usually go outside for a minute and I walk back in and I kind of smell the coffee. And I'm like, oh my God, I got to take a shit.

You know, that's funny. Something similar happened to me this morning. I normally have some allergy medicine and a couple of D3, a couple of vitamins here and there that I take with some electrolytes mm-hmm and then right after that it's like fuck dude I got to get to the bathroom pretty quick this morning I didn't I just I skipped that and I had to go to the bathroom really bad and then like I didn't even think about it like it wasn't even like like I got to the kitchen I'm like oh shit I skipped a whole step before I took a dump I guess I don't need it as bad as I thought I did.

Quick sidetrack, yo. More than that? You got to poop again? No, I don't even poop again. I was just thinking about this. You know all these artificial sweeteners and diet soda and shit? Yeah, how they're killing us? You would never drink that. Y'all know I drink diet soda.

Y'all know I drink diet soda. You're drinking filtered water in that mug right now. There's no artificial sweeteners in there at all. People talking trash on us while they're sipping on their BCAAs and all kinds of shit in it too, right? But I was thinking, you know how like I'm definitely drinking more diet soda than I should be, even though it's zero calorie. That's the difference. That's why he looks so flat, Andrew. Remember you were commenting, you were like, man, he though it's zero calorie. That's the difference. That's why he looks so flat, Andrew.

Remember you were commenting, you were like, man, he's really looking like garbage. It's the artificial sweeteners eating away at you slowly. But man, even though it's a great substitute, it is a great substitute, because I will never drink a full sugar soda, right? I'm not gonna drink my calories like that. I agree.

I truly need to back off of the amount of diet soda I drink. I don't think it's good. It's not good. It's not good. You're fine. The other night, where I had fucking, oh, God, I hate to admit this. A whole two liter?

And then I went, oh, I've done that before. A Fresca. Yeah. Great diet soda. There's a new flavor out there, too. You guys see that one? There's a new Fresca flavor? There's a new shit on the street?

Well, I've never seen both of you guys so excited before. Wait, what is there? What is it? There's a new Coke Zero, and it's like a limited edition from the artist Marshmello, which I don't know who that is, but- Me neither. I don't see this shit. I think that's what it's called, and it's-

Is that who that is? Because I've been seeing those fucking costumes a lot in the past few few years lime or something and but the the bottle is uh the can so look the can is white but i'm so dumb i said like marshmallow on there so i'm like oh well it's white it's like a marshmallow yeah i taste it i'm like that don't taste like no marshmallow and i look at the can i'm like oh it's a different flavor. It tastes good, though. Yeah, it's really good. What's the flavor on there? What does it say?

They should have at least in like a cream soda because like the marshmallow. This podcast is sponsored by Coca-Cola. No, it's not. Did you imagine? We don't have a Coke sponsorship. I wish. By Coke Zero. It doesn't say. I think it's just.

It says it somewhere on that can. It's just regular, bruh. No, it's only. No, no, it's just regular bruh no it's no no it's not regular zero calorie coke they're like underneath the red maybe anything no no no watermelon strawberry there we go watermelon strawberry they did they did nail that watermelon flavor now i think about it i'm gonna go load go load up. Okay. This is the thing though. It is good. It's good. And like, okay. What about your gut microbiome? Dog. Yeah. I think, uh, I've definitely taken it too far. And for everyone in the audience, cause we've talked about diet sodas, just do your best

not to go too wild with it because, uh, you know, think about like, we were talking about this on the podcast the other day with Gary, right? He was talking about like, oh, people used to smoke cigarettes and say it was good for your health, right? And then we find out lung cancer. Well, there are already people who are like artificial sweeteners are Satan. And although I don't think there's Satan, there's probably something wrong there in terms of consuming an insane amount of it. So I know that I need to constrict my diet soda use. I need to lower it. I'm just,

just suggestion for any of you who were like me, who may have been overdoing your diet soda. Let's pull it back a little bit. I mean, if you think about something like alcohol, it's, it's, it's a known poison.

Yeah. Like it, it poisons your body. Right. And we can sometimes just think about these chemicals they're just like chemicals that are going into our body and how many of those do you want but we can't avoid a lot of them you know a lot of them are just they're everywhere whether you get organic or grass-fed or whatever thing you try to get that's fancy schmancy uh it's fucking

shit's everywhere yeah that's what i was going to say about the artificial sweeteners is uh let's just say somewhere in the future uh a fucking joel green or somebody is like guys like holy shit like this new research shows that like they're actually pretty bad they're so ingrained into everything that we will never hear about it that person that figures that out will fucking disappear and artificial sweeteners will remain perfect for the rest of our lives. So drink up. I just had you. Yeah, I'm out of here.

How do you mitigate some of this stuff? And if you think about, like, if I can just manage my body weight and I can manage my diet, then I think that's pretty good because, like, one of the biggest problems here in the United States is people overeat. And people have excess body fat, and then we also run into people losing muscle as they get older. People having some body fat on them when they're younger doesn't seem to be nearly as negative, but what happens over time is you get heavy and you get weaker because you start to lose muscle mass. And that's when somebody gets laid out. They, they have an ankle thing. They have a knee thing, the joints,

ligaments, tendons start to wear out. And that's when somebody really, that's when it all goes downhill for somebody. That's what happened with my mother. She was heavy most of her life. Um, when she was young, she was very healthy, even though she was a bigger woman her whole life. Um, but as she got older and some joints and stuff like that started to wear out, once that activity went away, once the movement went away, it was unfortunately, it was just like a slow, a slow death from there. So I think, you know, a huge concern for people is just how do I, how do I stay a similar weight? And it's not always about losing weight. How do I stay like a similar weight or how do I stay a similar weight? And it's not always about losing weight.

How do I stay like a similar weight or how do I start to lose some weight and then just manage, like just fucking stay in there? Dude, that's huge. You know, the whole healthy at every size thing, as beautiful as the movement is in terms of accepting who you are and being not killing yourself

and mentally fucking with yourself because you don't have an ideal body whether you're overweight or obese, most of the people that report like, oh yeah, my blood work's great and I'm healthy because my blood work are younger, overweight and obese people. But when individuals get older,

the older overweight and obese people always come back with the bad blood work, with the degenerated joints because things just don't tend to go that well as you age if you're overweight and obese and you keep going in that direction. So if you're younger, be happy. Love who you are. Be happy about it. Be happy about who you are and love yourself.

But maybe try heading in the direction of building some healthy habits, right? So that when you're older, you have way less things to worry about. I agree. Yeah, maybe love yourself, but don't celebrate it, I guess. I don't know. It's hard to put into words because I do think that the, like the, you know, like what we were just talking about, like body acceptance or whatever. I think it's the one positive that I can think of right now.

I'm not saying there's only one, but the one that I can think of is like, because there's people that I know that are always like, I wish I could lose weight. I'm not happy with who I am right now. But none of the habits change. So at least if you can be like, okay, just love who you are. That's fine. That's cool.

But if you want to improve, all right, cool, let's do it. But don't sit there and beat yourself up because you don't look like, you know, whoever the fuck you think the ideal body type is. So I think that can be one thing. But like you said, just start doing the simple habits. Like, you know, don't are, but I want a hot tip for you. I want to give you a hot tip. Number one. Hot, hot heat. When you eat these things, 20 grams of protein, 5 grams of net carbs,

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to email it, but remember those Abercrombie images I pulled up for you? Oh, I can find it. Yeah. Yeah. Cause they got pulled, right? They got pulled. Yeah. Abercrombie took their post down. I know Sean Baker posted about it to give you guys just a quick, um, a quick rundown while Andrew's looking some of this up Abercrombie and Fitch. And I never got watch the netflix documentary they did on them oh that's pretty fun you did you watched it cool yeah so yeah well abercrombie and fitch i used to work there when i was a fucking that was my first job but abercrombie and fitch was this company who's like always been about being young hot blonde and blue-eyed and maybe sprinkle some black in there

but abercrombie is a company that's always been known to like, be like really, you know, you gotta be a certain size. They never had like bigger clothing and their marketing was all six packs and you know, sexy girls. People hated that shit. A lot of shit happened, but they recently did an ad and it wasn't even really an ad. They did a Facebook post. Cool. Andrew, you have it. A Facebook post. And this was one of the bodies that was shown on that post. But you know the fucked up thing? This isn't an Abercrombie model. This is one of the customers that purchased some Abercrombie clothing. And what they did is, and this is the picture that everyone's showing, but they also showed some other women who were not as heavy.

Like they showed women of different sizes wearing Abercrombie. She's not a model for them. She's a customer that bought some of their clothing and she posted about it. And yeah, there you go. There are the other models that they showed, right? Not even models though. These are just random women. Like fans basically.

They're fans. And Abercrombie was like, you know, they're they're probably over correcting because of what they used to do but all they did was show a it's weird because people took that that blonde girl and they're like oh they're glorifying being obesity blah blah blah but it's just a girl that bought some abercrombie clothes that's like i like the i'm feeling myself right now yeah and then they put it up i would say that company definitely knew what they were doing by putting that forward. You know, they knew some of the result that they would get off of that. You know, something I always find interesting is like, and I certainly don't know how to dress myself either, but like I find it interesting the type of clothing that certain people wear sometimes. I'm like, that's just not flattering for them.

So that first picture of the blonde girl, like the choice of clothes, like it just doesn't look great. Like I don't know why. I'm not sure why someone would dress that way. There's a flattering aspect up top if we're being like if somebody were just looking at the first third of the picture. Right, right. It's like, okay, boobies right you're right and and i know that people are like hey well she should be able to wear whatever she wants and i'm not saying that she can't wear that i'm just saying that uh you know and i guess it's just my eyes and my thoughts like i don't if when i was heavier i

didn't wear stuff that was real tight yeah i didn't wear stuff that was real short you I would cover certain things certain ways and just try to make sure that even though I probably didn't look good or great, no matter what I did, I would still just try to, I guess, make sure I'm more comfortable. But I guess if she's comfortable wearing that, then go for it. But it's like those shorts are like insanely short. And then there's just like a lot of chub going on around it. Those shorts are insanely short, and then there's a lot of chub going on around it. Again, I'm fascinated by people's clothing choices sometimes. It is very interesting because you don't see many men who are obese. You don't see them wearing really tight-fitting clothing and that type of stuff.

But as far as women, there has been an uptick of like you know but this is the thing though this is the this is the rough part because there is the aspect of like oh we don't want to people are like oh don't glorify this but again she's not one of their models she's just a fan that managed to buy some of their clothing because now they make clothing for bigger people it seems like the angle of that picture like there's some like it seems like a lot of shit going on with that particular photo you know and the way that the you can see the legs in there and stuff yeah whereas uh the picture of the black woman she looks very pretty but that's just because she chose the picture she wanted it's a different picture yeah and it's it's uh but like that seems more appropriate to wear i i don't know who am i the fuck to say what's appropriate so you're okay you know what i mean like i mean i get what you're saying but man like you go on instagram girls be

having their asses out so it's like it's just like who girl whatever girl choose to have their ass out or whatever guy chooses to have their shirt off and their fucking five inch inseam shorts soon to be three soon to be three. But this is the thing, that the confusing aspect about all of this is that there's one side where people are like, oh, models are too skinny, unhealthy, blah, blah, blah. There's another side where it's the extreme, oh, these people are too big, blah, blah, blah. But people who are overweight or obese, it is great that companies are now actually making clothes that fit those people because guess what there are a lot of people most people in america are now overweight and obese

they need clothes right and i mean it's a great move as far as business to provide clothes for bigger people because like that's a lot of them so that's one thing but number two is like if someone's trying to get in better shape they need fucking clothes to wear to get in better shape. And if they want to fucking rock some Lululemon, Viore or Abercrombie and Fitch, it'd be nice if those sizes were offered for those people who are, some may not be trying to change, but some might be. And I don't know. It's like, if you can just shift your perspective sometimes, get out of the butt. Like if you can just shift your perspective sometimes, get out of the butt. Like I think sometimes since we're so focused on fitness and being fit, we have this ideal that we're like, yeah, like being fit is good. And that's great.

But if you put yourself in just the perspective of someone who is overweight or obese and maybe they want to be on that journey and you just think about how they look at everything it's like it's great to be able to see that a place has clothes that fit you while you're heading down this so sometimes we just need to take ourselves out of the fucking equation and and just be like other people are trying to do the same shit you are that it's it's weird and then it's hard from a company perspective to like how many x's high do you go? How big of a size do you go up? And everything's not for everybody. Things aren't really that equal.

Where can I shop for a pair of 7X leather pants? Big and tall. Sorry, they ain't got them. They probably don't exist. You want leather pants, you're probably going to have to lose some weight. Sometimes that's just the way life is.

There's some things that are unfair sometimes and you got to maybe try some new shit like we recommend often on the show. I think that people that are heavier, I think that lifting weights plays right into their hands because it doesn't require some things that you may need if you're going to like run or you're going to, uh, investigate like more extreme movements or somebody that's a bigger person that's been a bigger person most of their life. They actually,

a lot of times they'll find out that they're actually fairly strong and they actually have a pretty good, pretty good muscular system on their body from carrying around that weight for years. So a lot of people that are heavier, it would be amazing if they investigated going into the gym and lifting some weights. I realize how hard that can be for people because getting over the fear of going into the gym. So maybe you start out and you buy a kettlebell that you have at your house and you start lifting that or whatever way you can figure out some type of resistance training. I have a question for both of you guys. Does getting a new shirt or a new pair of shorts and it looks fucking good on you, does that kind of motivate you? Does that make you feel good?

Yeah. Yeah. Having new clothes and feeling good and at least feeling like you look good. Yeah. It feels amazing. Yeah. Yeah. If I'm wearing a pair of shorts, like we've joked around, we've joked about this, I think on the podcast about like, like, oh, my shorts ain't short enough now. But like, if I have a pair that like, if I sit down and I stand up and they like lock on my quads, like, fuck yeah. I'm like, that's right. It's working. I feel good. it's working. I feel good. Exactly. And this is the thing that I think is like, it's a tough thing where people in fitness kind of need is just potentially zone out a little bit. If I was overweight or obese, I want to look good while I'm on my journey. Like I know, we all know how exciting it is to find the shirt that fits us just right for our build. And now we're like, fuck, I want to, I'm going to fucking go in the gym or I feel like going on a jog in my friend. Right. It feels good. And with this percentage of people that are overweight and obese in the United States now, who are like, I have, I want to go on that journey. And some of them in the past, maybe they

haven't had clothing options that allowed them to look good. But now companies are finally starting to make some bigger clothes for those people. If they get in a pair of shorts and a tank top or a shirt or something, and they're like, fuck, this stretches well. I'm feeling good. That feel good. My uncle always used to say, if you look good, you feel good. If you feel good, you work good or something like that.

And people having options, overweight and obese people having options of clothing that makes them feel and look good to motivate them to get more active. That is something that is necessary. Like it's, it's just, it's just necessary. It's motivating. And it, you know, men don't ever talk about it, but it's like, you feel sexy. You know what I mean? Like, especially like when you feel sexy especially like when you you know when you lose weight you like if you're real heavy you're like man uh you blame it on the store you blame it on the fit you're like man this stuff like fits right this place is stupid you fucking and you go out of there and you don't buy anything but when you're in when you're lean and in good shape or even just

in better shape than what you've been before you're like god damn i gotta buy the whole store i gotta buy all 10 of these fucking things everything looks great yo do you know how excited i was in my early 20s when levi finally came out with 541s levi 541 to fit that ass and fit those quads because up to that point every single pair of jeans i wore i had no choice but to sag that shit because my ass and legs were too big and or or or i had to buy a bigger waist get one compliment from a woman and it's over you're so fucking pumped you're like i'm wearing these every day yo ever yo exclamation point it was so it like i remember and it's like i was out of shape or anything but it was very frustrating that i went everywhere and i couldn't find fucking not being able to

button your pants is the worst lay down and button them yes it actually was the case yeah pick up your fupa and button them but oh actually yeah you have that experience because you were 330 pounds oh yeah it seemed I had to move his abs. Dog, no, but I had to buy shit that was way bigger. It was super loose on me, and I looked fucking bad. Yeah, you have that thing around the top on the crotch area where the zipper just creates a permanent boner. Yes! Because you're cinching down your belt so much.

My pants, it was like trying to put a pair of pants on like an exercise ball. Yeah. I just kept pushing up and like all that would happen is like everything else would just push up. It would just mush.

You know what I mean? Yeah. It's nice when you can see your girl putting on pants and she has to do that. She's just like, butt bouncing. Go down and do that again.

But it's not so nice when you have to do that. It's like boomeranged into your head uh huh that's a good way to put it oh man

but yeah it's Andrew will remember this Andrew remember the man show of course yeah the man show would end every show with girls jumping

on a trampoline is that what Adam Carolla yeah I think in like schoolgirl outfits yeah no it was amazing that show got me through many difficult nights that's what this show needs girls jumping Is that what Adam Carolla? Yeah. I think in like school girl outfits. Yeah. No, it was amazing.

That show got me through many difficult nights. Girls jumping on trampolines to end the show every day. That actually would be a great idea. That show is incredible. I'll put out some, I'll put out a job, a job application. We'll pay minimum wage. Didn't he just like, didn't they just like call them like juggies or something like that like yeah yeah in the show juggies jumping on trampolines their shirts were tied up and their yeah their boobs yeah i remember trying to get a sneakings of that

show as a kid because i was like i was like i was a kid when that shit was out you know what i mean so the man show whenever i could manage yeah i used to stay up pretty late watching that one adam carolla's a genius you guys remember the uh like this was my first taste of like risque shit on tv the girls gone wild ads of course yeah yeah they happened during the fucking man show yeah i remember i was like nine or ten i'd be watching tv late at night when i shouldn't have been, I'd see Girls Gone Wild and be like... Dude, that guy went to jail for a long time. Oh, yeah. Who? Dude, the guy that put those together. Really? Yeah, because he's going around filming Girls Gone Wild.

They're not giving consent. They're just fucking drunk college chicks. Well, I mean, deservedly, right? Well, now they call it OnlyFans. But they're getting paid. They weren't getting paid before. Yeah, they're getting paid from now. Yeah.

But I was just going to point out, it's kind of silly, but we have this New York Post ad, and this shit makes me feel hella old because I read Sheena Shea addresses Tom Short's Raquel Levi's wedding hookup rumors do you know who those people I have no fucking clue who these people are why are they on that like front page of this New York Post I don't it just makes me feel really fucking old because I have no idea who these people are mmm mean either mean

either but yeah anyway I sent you a video I've just emailed you a video this is just kind of just a we talk a lot in the show about like trying new shit and how new stuff like, you know, it's going to hurt and be uncomfortable. I just thought this was really cool. This is a good parenting clip. And anybody that's going to, you know, start their fitness journey, you're going to fall, you're going to get jacked up, you're going to get hurt many times. Hopefully, something like this will be a good reminder and be

encouraging. Sorry. I fucking got logged out. That's okay. I love this shit. Yeah, this was on a Today show the other day. Your friend, five-year-old Aubryn, is practicing a skateboarding trick. She takes a hard fall, but look at this. Her dad,

I know, was right there to pick her up the drop in was amazing you know that right sometimes it's scary doing hard things and it's totally up to you whether you want to give it a go let's get this you don't have to cry on air bro it's just good fucking michael oops so listen to this with love and encouragement from dad a determined auburn keeps on trying again and again and again and she eventually nails the trick and then dad and daughter celebrate with this look at this an adorable secret handshake that the two of them created that's cool yeah and he he gave her an out too yeah he's like you don't have to do this like you know but if you want to do it like there's a possibility you're

gonna fall again yeah but it's gonna be fun when you get it yeah you know so he was pointing out the the good and the bad of it and then also i maybe just you know knowing like okay i like she probably realized like I fell. Yeah. And that probably scared her more than it actually, I'm sure it hurt. But it probably scared her more than anything, more than it actually like hurting. And so she was probably able to be like, you know what? It is kind of fun to slide back and forth on that skateboard.

So I should go for it again. That's so cool, man. But man, if a little kid can get it, maybe the rest of us can figure it out sometimes, right? Yeah, but we fall harder as adults. Oh, I know. Yeah, right on our face. But yeah, she kept at it.

It's really cool. Speaking of trying new things, I have a 9 a.m. scheduled jujitsu class I'm going to with Jake tomorrow. With Jake? Yeah, and maybe one of his friends. Let's go. We're all going. I just want to expose him to it. Just a place in Davis. Okay, cool. Yeah, give him some exposure to that shit, right? Dude, I

think Jake's going to like it. He's cerebral as fuck, man. He'll dig it. That's going to be right up his alley. Yeah, I'm going gonna try to elbow him in there you know a little bit i don't know if he'll like going with me or not but if he likes going with me then i'll be encouraged to go yeah so interestingly is the big i think one of the biggest hurdles for for guys is like being in such close contact with another human in that

like just like that's trying to hurt you you you know? But once you do it enough, then it's... People are surprisingly like just so nice though. They are. That's the thing. They are nice. They're so nice. They're like, oh yeah. I mean, the first day that I went to the place in Davis, the guy I was working with was pretty big, you know?

Like a heavier dude and like, I'm sure he's plenty strong. I mean, he did a little stuff where I was like, okay, like I could tell. And I don't think he was even trying, you know? And I was like, but he was like so kind and just super fucking gentle. Like I didn't get hurt or nothing happened. I mean, it was awesome. Experienced people in jujitsu know what it's like to be new. You know what I mean?

I think that's the cool thing. Like they've been through it, especially if you roll with somebody experienced. That's why they don't usually let white belts roll with white belts. But when you know what it's like, then you know, like, oh, they're feeling uncomfortable. They don't know what the fuck's happening. I'm going to be very cool with how we do things. It was like Twister, man, because they're like, put your foot over there. I'm like, will my foot

go over there? Do they know who they're asking to put their foot over there? I mean, I'll try, okay. Most of the time, it kind of worked because you do kind of roll with it. Yeah, uh, yeah, I don't know. It's just interesting. Something I definitely want to get into. I don't know when, uh, exactly I will like finally make the plunge and like going consistently, but hopefully it's, hopefully it's sometime soon. I'm not putting any pressure on myself. I just know that, you know, over the next four or five years,

I want something that I do want to learn and commit to, and it will happen at some point. The thing is, man, you're picking up a lot of shit. Like you just ran 12 miles the other day. You've been picking up running for a while. You're improving at that. You've been, your mobility and all these things have gotten better. So it's like, you know, you got time, you know what I mean? And I think that's, that's something cool for everyone to understand because you're talking a lot about running, and we've been doing that for a while. We talk about jujitsu and stuff.

There's lifting. There's different types of lifting, kettlebells, whatever. Pick off one thing at a time. And if you do want to do some of these things at the same time, just give yourself the time to improve at each of them. Don't expect some type of immediate shit. And don't be all down on yourself if you stop something. For me with running, I went to run a hill the other day.

And when I started to run it, I recognized that it was not a hill. It was a fucking mountain that I was running. And I had to stop. I had to just be reasonable. And I think sometimes people don't, they maybe don't know that about some people that a lot of people that are really good at stuff, a lot of times they get to be really good because they take their time to get a little more calculated with it. I was like, if I had to, I guess I probably could run this whole thing, but this is like two and a half or three miles pretty much straight up and i'm by myself

i don't have water with me i had water in my car but i was like i don't want to be a half an hour away from my car and get all cramped up and shit this will get ugly fast there's no shade just running straight up a hill right into the fucking sun so i'm like that just it's just not smart like james pierre at what's the chance of dying on this hill? 30%. Yeah, 30% is the cutoff. So anyway, if you're trying something new, I mean, you might have to take some steps back here and there. Absolutely.

But there's time to get back to it. Yeah. How do you get over the close proximity thing? Because that's definitely one for me for jiu-jitsu. Other than if I can somehow figure out to not have this back pain, the next thing would be like, I'm not really comfortable being like sweaty

and having this big sweaty dude on top of me. You know, I don't have that much experience so he can probably explain it better. But like it just, it was just complete. Well, I did professional wrestling for a while. So like maybe I've gotten used to some of that before, but it was just completely non-issue. Like are just like yeah here you know you know get on top of me and like do this like they're because it's so normal to them yeah it's just so common just

like a just like a back spot with a squat or something you have no problem grabbing somebody and assisting them out of that not feeling weird about it right just because it's like so normal like i gotta help this guy get back in the rack. We're going to pretend that this never happened as soon as we put the weight back down. But yeah, I think you would find that it's like everyone's so nice that it's just not really a big issue.

All right. Jiu Jitsu gets super sweaty, especially super sweaty. But let me first tell you about some of the uncomfortable things it's kind of fun um so sometimes if you're rolling with somebody and they're very sweaty i've rolled with people who are like uncomfortably sweaty and i'm just like i'm just gonna roll in a way where you're not touching me too much because like you are like some people sometimes they don't know maybe the word deodorant you don't run into this often.

But when it does happen, you know, usually there's some communication. Like, hey, bro, can you tell that guy that he stinks? Or maybe I have to tell him that he stinks. It sometimes happens. I'm going over the bad shit so that like you know what to expect. The fun thing is beards. Because when sweat drips off of beards and someone's on top, I always make sure like if I'm on top of somebody and I start getting sweaty, I can see my beard sweat going towards their mouth.

I'm like, ooh, let me. All right, let's keep going. You know what I mean? I'm considerate, but some people aren't. Sometimes you'll get some salt. It's just what happens, right? It's just what happens. You're like, let me line this beard sweat up with its eyeball.

You make this role really bad. Sometimes you're in a position where there's obviously neon belly, but there's- Balls to the face. Balls to the face. You know, whole bunch of nutsack on top of you and mount. It happens. Watch positions that are- Yeah, there's positions that are kind of claustrophobic too, where you're like, wow, okay, like I'm-

I cannot- I can barely breathe and there's like balls in my face and as much as you try to force yourself out of it and if they're good they're just like oh yeah yeah get it get it yeah you can't move can you motherfucker all right but but but but but but like you get used to it dude like you learn how to breathe you know how to relax none of that stuff like none of after a while of doing it it dude. Like you learn how to breathe. You learn how to relax. None of that stuff, like none of, after a while of doing it, it doesn't bother you.

It's just like, it's jujitsu. You know what I mean? And I'm sure as you get better, maybe people aren't, I'm sure everyone's always respectful, but I'm sure that people like, they're not,

they want to win, right? So like as you get better, then they're going to crank up the intensity, right? Yeah, absolutely. And none of the shit I'm saying is like people doing that shit on purpose. No one's purposefully trying to get their sweat in your mouth. No one's purposefully trying to fart in your face. But when somebody does fart on the mats, everybody else's reaction is always great. Cause like Casio sometimes, so far, if someone

will fart and be like, Hey, Whoa, Casio do that shit. I'll be like yeah it's always fun it's always fun I'll farted a few times I'll just be like hey I'll stop because I've been in positions where I was I've been in positions on top

where I'm like I go for something I'm like and I just immediately get off because I'm like I don't need you to eat my shit I'm not going to put you through that let's just stop rolling

bro that was just a technique yeah the finish that's a a technique. Yeah. The finish. That's a tournament technique. Yeah. Tournament technique.

Eat it with some really bad shit that gets your gut going. You're just farting in people's mouth. Make a fucking tap because of the smell. There's puking. That's a great strategy. Damn. Hopefully that doesn't happen to Jake tomorrow I hope he can bring Matthew with him, Matthew's

his training partner in here all the time that'd be cool like I don't know, I just think it'd be neat if either one of them got exposed to it and was like I think this is kind of cool, I want to do this more often it's super fun starting Jiu Jitsu with a friend, I remember when I started my friend Brian started a little bit after me and it was so fun to be able

to go to class together, to be able to see each other get better. He just stopped after a while cause he didn't, he didn't think it was for him after like a year. But I really enjoyed having that, like having one of my homies do it with me. So that's a, that's another pro tip. If you really want to stick with jujitsu, see if you can tip if you really want to stick with jiu-jitsu see if you can get a friend of yours to join with you because like that is fun it's really you're both screwed yeah you're both brand new both gonna go through the same shit together there's stories y'all can talk about how y'all getting your ass beat and then 10 years later y'all are badasses beating everybody up when uh so not necessarily for your friend but like you know because you

talk about when people once they get their blue belt they kind of just start to fade off um do you think that's because jiu-jitsu might take away too much from the rest of their life no i don't think it's because of that i think it's because like you get your blue belt you've achieved something and most people it's like it's it's a it's a big fucking mountain to go over. Like you get your blue belt, you've done it for a while, you're adept. But now it's like, there is so much more progress. I think like some people are just like,

oh, okay, I'm gonna take a break. I just got my blue belt. Let me take a little bit of a break. And then they never come back. Like that's like, I think it's not typically like I'm gonna get my blue belt and quit. But it's like,

I've achieved this. I've gotten my blue belt. Okay. You know, it's like- White, yellow, blue? White, blue, purple like, I've achieved this. I've gotten my blue belt. Okay. You know, it's like white, yellow, blue, white, blue, purple, brown, black, white, blue, purple, brown, black. There's kids colors too. They have gray and yellow and shit, but for adults, white, blue, purple, brown, black. But I think when people get their blue belt, it's like, it's like when you are on a diet and you get to a certain point and you take a diet break and you maybe have a cheat week, that cheat week

turns into a cheat year and then you're back to your, right? That's what getting your blue belt is like for some people because then they're like, okay, got my blue. Let me chill. Damn, life is good. I'm not feeling sore. I'm not going back. Do you also think maybe, uh, like as a blue belt that you have, uh uh pretty good knowledge to protect yourself pretty well yeah yeah honestly like a blue belt in jiu-jitsu it takes a year or two it usually takes people two years yeah um so that's like standard like two two two to three two to two and a half years to get your blue belt but after that like you will feel more confident in in physical settings with other you'll feel very confident physical settings with other people that makes sense that's probably a big reason

why people drop off too they're probably like i'm i'm i have not i have some knowledge here yes and and if somebody messes with me um i can be confident that i can at least maybe hold them off, you know, until the fight's over or whatever. Yeah, yeah. Rather than like maybe before they just didn't know how things would turn out and they didn't have a lot of confidence. Yeah.

But there's a very big gap between blue belts and purple belts. And then, yeah, it's interesting, the progression of jujitsu and the things you learn. Because it's just like, there's so much. There's really so much. So many different types of games for so many different types of body types. Which is why people find it so fun,

because you can develop something for yourself. Like, this is the way I move. Like Mike Israetel, he does something called, he said, like, I'm a half guard player. And he's a half guard player because it's actually a position that if you're very, you know, stocky and stiff, that's a good guard player because it's actually a position that if you're very you know stocky and stiff that's a good position to be very good at it's actually very advantageous

for you right and if you're a longer guy there's like de la jiva there's spider guard if you have long legs and long limbs so there's so much for each person that's kind of neat right it's like there's uh i'm sure there's when you get to the highest level there's like kind of neat, right? It's like there's a – I'm sure there's – when you get to the highest level, there's like kind of like a standard body type that maybe performs the best typically. But does it vary quite a bit? Yeah. Yeah, yeah. When you look at like world champs, man, like you will see long guys.

You will see stocky guys. You will see all types. Right. guys, you will see stocky guys, you will see all types. Like you, because again, if you're a really good half guard player, that is hard. Like that's, first off, it's tough for people to escape from trying. So you're on the ground, so it doesn't matter how tall you are necessarily or something like that. Yeah.

Yeah. There's really like, I've thought about this, but there is no like world champion archetype like there is with CrossFit. The CrossFit, it's like five'6", buck 60 to buck 90. I'm just picturing that a lot of the guys look like hoists. No. No. Some of them do.

Yeah. But a lot of them really vary. Right. Yeah. It's like there's no – really with jiu-jitsu, it's like if you are very good at your jujitsu with your body type if you're really good you can fuck people up at the highest levels so there there there isn't a there isn't a world champion that makes actually that makes sense i think about it more uh just because uh somebody that has the mobility of a hoist gracie um there's a lot of advantages to that but then

there's also some advantages of being a shorter person, maybe like Joe Rogan, being explosive. Not that Hoyce Gracie wouldn't be explosive, but a lot of times those shorter guys can be very, like Jimmy House, those shorter guys can pack a lot into a shorter frame body. There are also positions that with certain body types, moves won't work. Like those shorter guys can pack a lot into a shorter frame body, right? There are also positions that like with certain body types, moves won't work. Like, for example, there's no way I'm going to try to triangle a Chad Wesley or Jimmy House because their traps in their neck are too big. So once you put on that triangle, it's actually good for them because they're like, whoo-hoo, bitch, boom.

Like Chad did that to me twice because I couldn't wrap my shit around him. Right. So like there are advantages to different body types. That's why you can build a game around your body. That's the really cool thing. You can build a game around your body. You guys see this from Nikki Rodney. Oh dog. Nikki be doing the wildest shit. Fuck this guy. Jesus. I think it's really cool though. Like, uh, it's really encouraging because you're getting so many different things from jujitsu. I also recognize that it can be very hard on the joints and tough on the body and stuff like that. But you're getting some resistance training while you're doing it. You're getting cardiovascular.

So those people that are like, oh, man, I don't know about weights, I still would advise you to lift weights because I'll always do that. I think I'm trying to make the world a better place to lift, so you've got to lift. But if you really don't want to lift, I think you can go on hikes. You can do jujitsu. There's other ways to get some resistance in your life, you know? And also, like, there are so many ways of lifting weights that no, like, I think, I really think there's, like, no one out there who shouldn't be doing some form of lifting. Because the lifting doesn't have to be going to a gym with a barbell. You can have a few kettlebells at home and get, I do that a lot. Like I do a kettlebell stuff at home all the time and

I can get an amazing workout with literally two bells, you know, and some body weight. Like it's, there's no reason why you shouldn't lift because the lifting will keep your body resilient for everything else you're going to do. It's just too damn beneficial. How long does it take you to do that? Kettlebell stuff? Yeah. If you decide to do that in a day, like I'm sure you get carried away and you probably end up jumping rope and you probably end up doing other stuff. But like, if you really wanted it to, like, how long does it take you usually? I can do really good workout in 20 or 30 minutes. And if I just wanted to really up the pace, I could do a really good workout in 15 minutes and really get in a lot of volume. It's right at your own house.

It's in my backyard. Yeah. It's amazing. Yeah. So it's like they're lower. We always talk about this. You mention it all the time. Lower the barrier to entry for all of these things.

So you don't have excuses as to why you shouldn't do it. If we're too busy on a certain day and for some reason I wasn't able to lift here, I'll lift at home. I love that with running. It's like a 30- minute run takes 30 minutes. Like it doesn't take any action. It's not like lifting where sometimes you get like way into lifting and then you're there forever. Um, or sometimes there's like a drive to the gym and some of those things can be a turnoff, but if you just lift at your house, uh, or if you just run from your house, I mean, or apartment or go on a walk or something. Yeah, any of it. It's just amazing.

It doesn't take a lot of time, and you get the exercise that you want. Dre is consistently posting videos from his apartment. Like, literally, he has a mat on his floor, and he's doing kettlebell stuff in his fucking living room. He's coming back, by the way. I know. I can't wait. Yeah, he's coming back mid-September, I think.

Yeah, man. Fucking love Dre, dude. He's so awesome. Take us on out of here, Andrew. Sure thing. Thank you, everybody, for checking out today's episode. Please let us know

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