Mark Bell's Power Project - EP. 260 Live - Motivation Then, Now, Later

Episode Date: October 4, 2019

After reading about Jason Khalipa's struggles with school early on, the guys talk about what school was like for them and how they motivated themselves to not be a bunch of losers and what Mark Bell does to drive himself today. Subscribe to the Podcast on all platforms: ➢https://lnk.to/PowerProjectPodcast Subscribe to the Podcast on on Platforms! ➢https://lnk.to/PowerProjectPodcast Visit our sponsors: ➢Piedmontese Beef: https://www.piedmontese.com/ Use Code "POWERPROJECT" at checkout for 25% off your order plus FREE 2-Day Shipping on orders of $99 ➢Perfect Keto: http://perfectketo.com/powerproject Use Code "POWERPROJECT" at checkout for 15% off your order! ➢Quest Nutrition: https://www.questnutrition.com/ Use code "MARKSQUEST" at checkout for 20% of your order! ➢SHOP NOW: https://markbellslingshot.com/ Enter Discount code, "POWERPROJECT" at checkout and receive 15% off all Sling Shots FOLLOW Mark Bell ➢ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/marksmellybell ➢ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/MarkBellSuperTraining ➢ Twitter: https://twitter.com/marksmellybell ➢ Snapchat: marksmellybell Follow The Power Project Podcast ➢ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/MarkBellsPowerProject Follow Nsima Inyang ➢ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/nsimainyang/  Podcast Produced by Andrew Zaragoza ➢ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/iamandrewz #PowerProject #Podcast #MarkBell

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He forgot something, and he's trying to remember it. He forgot to remember what he's trying to remember, but he can't think of it. I can't remember, yeah. It's right there. Is that short-term memory? I hate that, though.

That's just... It's called tip of the tongue syndrome or something where you it's right there but you can't find it yeah it's like you you have it right you're you're just you're grazing it just a little bit it's just like oh it goes away you know what would help right on the tip what would help uh perfect ketos nootropic uh help? Perfect Keto's Nootropic. You're right. Perfect Keto's Nootropic would help with that. Yeah. Have you been messing with that at all? Yeah, I used it twice since.

I used it with Kratom. I just dig it. I dig the way it feels. It tastes good. It does taste good. Like we mentioned before, it tastes like dark chocolate. Yeah, it's super rare for a nootropic to taste like anything, period, other than like super bitter powder. But it actually tastes good, which is very odd.

I wonder why, because I've never taken any other nootropics, but I wonder why they don't just flavor it. Why do they leave it bitter? Well, it's just mainly because... People are trying to get a high dosage, right? Yeah. So it's not really like BCAs, but like imagine unflavored BCAs. That's more what it's like. Like you can't really do anything with it.

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We don't really want you to snack, but we understand that you're going to. We do. And you're trying to figure out what's going to be the least amount of damage I can get away with. And we also talked yesterday on our podcast at length about trying to have your cheats be less bad. Can you go the rest of your life without a cheat? No.

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and like destroying the ozone layer, right? Yeah. That's impressive to me. Is that true? Can they really do that? I believe it is true, yeah. That means us eating the cows is saving the ozone. Yeah.

Yeah. Perfect. I wonder if these jacked cows have just as bad gas, though. They might. Cows smell bad. Yeah. They smell really bad all the time but they're so like muscular maybe they have like higher protein farts like it's yeah oh my gosh well we don't yeah

i don't know yeah they're grass-fed so they're like 90 grass-fed or something i think i paid montice yeah anyway i had a hamburger last night and two of their hot dogs and i was all pumped up about the hot dogs so i was like i'm gonna go full keto like i'm gonna eat like you know real keto is like is one gram of protein per every gram of fat approximately so you're you have a lot more fat calories than you do um protein calories and so i was all pumped up i'm gonna eat the shit of these hot dogs this whole week i had like a couple packets of the hot dogs. Can't do it, man.

Their hot dogs are 21 grams of protein and only 10 grams of fat. What? And they're amazing. They're so good. Oh, my God. Yeah, they ruined my hopes and dreams with their lean hot dog. Huh. How'd it taste?

It was amazing. It's really, really good. And it's just like steak trimmings that's in there and it has um from what i can remember don't quote me on this but i think it had like no nitrates it had like five or six ingredients um it's had like garlic powder and onion powder and a couple other things it was awesome it was really really good highly recommend it so mark gets the hot dogs but we don't get the hot dogs. We need to make an order of some hot dogs. Yeah.

I'm going to. Oh, my gosh. That sounds so good. I love hot dogs. I know they're not. Well, these ones are going to be good for you, but the other ones are pretty terrible. Yeah. Well, yeah.

I mean, it's just the more processed stuff is. We've talked about that many times on the podcast. But still, I think, you know, for some of us, we're just looking for stuff that doesn't have any carbs in it. And sometimes, like, if you're on the go and we could hit up a fast food restaurant and get a burger here and there, like, those aren't the best options. It's obviously a lot better to stick to your Piedmontese beef or stick to some high-quality meats. But, you know, you kind of do what you have to do sometimes in a pinch. But, man, these were really good.

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You know, speaking of cheats real quick, I feel really, really weird about this. I was telling Andrew about this. Here we go. No, no, no. What did you do now? He had broccoli for a cheat. Well, actually, it's kind of on that note. Now, don't get it twisted.

I still eat out from time to time. Like I had some wings the other day. Great. Perfect. Groovy. But you know what feels weird to me? You know those Costcoco boiled eggs yeah okay hard boiled eggs right um so for some reason like when i do like feel i gotta eat something

you know something good i'll grab like eight of those eggs and some chili sauce pour the chili sauce over the eggs and it's like i i showed andrew yeah the chili sauce and for some reason it it feels so good like it's great like i don't know why too it's like when you what do you think about it this is just fucking boiled eggs and chili sauce but for me it's like you know it hits that it hits that spot for some reason well it's it's so weird it's a really good amount of food it's a great amount of protein you know and it's it's super going to be super uh satiating so like even for someone that may not love the flavor of that it will still fill them up pretty good you know and that's like um you can use protein they call protein leveraging you can you can leverage protein like the more protein you eat it's been shown that a lot of

times you'll eat less overall food sometimes people have like a chicken breast or or some hard-boiled eggs or something like that and that will help you to eat less kind of throughout the rest of the day so it's a good strategy and um i do the same thing i grab hard-boiled eggs i put them in like a like a bowl and i throw i have like everything seasoning i just dump that on there yeah you know stuff Stuff you would put on a bagel or whatever. It's legit as hell. So good. What kind of chili sauce? It's that Asian chili sauce.

It has chicken on it? It's the same chicken as the sriracha one, but it's not sriracha. We've been hanging out a lot. This is great. People are like, sriracha, but not sriracha like writing it down it has little chili peppers in it so y'all know what i'm talking about like it has you can see that the little uh little uh pepper things but yeah that's good so odd you've been uh listening

to some jason calipa lately yeah dude i um i checked uh so for me like audible and all that stuff it doesn't really make sense you have to pay for a subscription and then pay for me, like Audible and all that stuff, it doesn't really make sense. You have to pay for a subscription and then pay for a book. Like to me, that's like Netflix charging me to rent movies. I don't really understand it. So the app I use is called Scribd. I highly recommend this app for anybody listening. It's almost like it's so good that I hate telling people because I don't want to share my hack.

But it's like Netflix that i hate telling people because i don't want to share my hack but it's like netflix for audiobooks um i just happen to check like the uh like so not self-improvement but uh like whatever like uh recommended for you and it's like oh damn there's you know jason kalipa's amrap mentality and uh so i started listening today and it was really cool because like when i think of jason kalipa i mean he's a savage, the AMREP mentality. I just see somebody who's kind of figured it out and has probably had it figured out for a really long time. But he starts the book out by saying, no, he didn't. And he actually struggled in high school. Well, not struggled in high school. He just didn't care because he didn't have any interest in it whatsoever.

he didn't have any any interest in it whatsoever and uh it wasn't until he tried to get into the same uh college as his then girlfriend uh ashley now uh wife where he was like oh my gosh i'm a loser like i finally like i can't do something that i want to do so that basically a long story short lit a fire under his ass to take as many classes as possible do as much work as possible and like really take no breaks and like that's where the am rep mentality kind of started and it just kind of got me thinking like man in high school like I I kind of we talk about on the podcast often like Mark and I we really didn't like school I I didn't really understand what like the point of it I didn't get anything out of it but it wasn't until like i found photography where i was like oh i have to actually i gotta

figure something out you know like i don't want to be a loser anymore um but it got me thinking like like what was school like for enzima like because i think we've barely touched on it a little bit but i'm just thinking like with your mom and like you know you're uh you're disciplined young already you know so it's like what was school like for it and sema before we hear that i gotta take this mind bullet shot right here oh my gosh face and i'm gonna do it solo i'm sorry mark because uh and sema's gonna be saving himself for later i guess save myself saving himself for marriage mind bullet mind bullet extract straight to the dome here we go i'm gonna be high as fuck in about 14 minutes yo guys like seriously i've taken this twice on the podcast now if you can't see the video well just we're holding the mind bullet potion and

it's so damn good um but i have to save it for jujitsu because i've never used the potion while rolling and i feel like i'm just gonna to turn into some weird ninja. Black belt. Black belt, yes. Black belt status. Black belt status on some mind bullets. So I'm going to save that for later. Can't wait. If you do grab it, though, Mark,

do you suggest that they take the whole bottle or half a bottle or a third of the bottle? I think you'd take about half would be a good idea. It's just potent. It's very potent. Probably the equivalent of about eight capsules. Yeah. So, yeah.

Yeah. I would say, I don't know, man, for me, it seems like it's even more powerful than, because I've taken eight capsules and, you know, it's like, okay, this feels great. If I take a whole bottle, man, it's, you really feel it. Maybe it just like hits you all at once. Whereas maybe the capsule is like a longer. So there's also, in the powder form it has like fibers in it and those have to be broken down so it takes it takes a lot longer this is going to hit you this will hit you quicker and i think because of the dosage it will stay in your system for a while too i can't wait. All right. So, uh, while Mark gets high, we'll talk about school.

Um, I'm out bro. Yeah. So, you know, when I was like younger, I think, uh, like school shifted for me from elementary school and middle school and high school. Like when I was younger, my mom, I mentioned this a little bit in the past, she like found a way to get me into community college classes. So she started me out in music when I was like six or seven, I was like playing piano and that type of stuff, uh, in community college when they allowed kids to take classes there. And she actually like when I was like eight or nine, I started taking like algebra classes there. And then after a certain point they stopped allowing kids to come. But since I was already there taking classes, I got grandfathered in. So I was able to take all these math classes with

like adults and stuff. And then she also put me in like this learning center, which was just satanic called Kumon, Kumon Learning Center. And actually, you know what, it's actually a great thing because it teaches like math and reading and it's something to help kids get ahead for like, you know, middle school and high school or whatever. So I took that with my friend Brian and it it was just us two and a bunch of other Asian kids. And it was great. I hated it. I would a lot of the time throw away my Kumon packets. How old were you?

I was like, at Kumon, I think I started Kumon at 10, 10 or 11. Yeah, so that kind of put me ahead because when I started high school, I was taking calculus freshman year and I finished that. So I was already ahead in like math. But this is the thing. My mom was the one that was like pushing me to do all this learning and stuff. I wasn't like I she knew that I wasn't enjoying it or whatever, because I would always like, you know, I'd throw things out like my Kumon stuff. I get spanked multiple times for throwing out my Kumon packets. So when I started high school i like i was ahead in math which is cool but from there it's just like i was just like i would just want to do enough to get by and that's how it was for me for the rest of high school like cool math is out of the way but now

let me just get b's and c's and just do enough to get myself through all these classes certain classes like i'd do better in because like she'd get mad at me she's and just do enough to get myself through all these classes, certain classes. Like I do better in, cause like she'd get mad at me. She's like, Oh, you bring home a B. Who are you?

Like, that's not, that's not normal. She knew I could do better. So like there were certain phases where I was like, you know what? I got to do better. But there are certain phases where I was like,

you know what? I'm really, really good at counter-strike. So I'm gonna play more counter-strike. Like I was really addicted to games in high school. I told you all this. Um, well, counter-strike was a really good game though. Counter-strike so i'm gonna play more counter-strike like i was really addicted to games in high school i told you all this um well counter-strike was a really good game though counter-strike yeah it was uh was the counter-strike there was 1.6 source counter-strike source i played a lot of counter-strike source i played your mom punish you with uh taking away

the video game console i think she didn't even know i was playing video games on the computer like the computers where i got my work done. I got to go do my homework. I got to go do my homework, mom. You know, and then there's alt tab. You know, of course, alt tab is to bring the screen down. So like the computer would be in the loft area. But once I'd hear those footsteps, alt tab, I'm doing my homework, you know. So I'd be fooling her all the time, which I do feel bad about.

But, you know, I was really like fooling her all the time, which I do feel bad about. But, you know, um, I, I was really like trying to, like, I loved working out and I knew I wanted to become a doctor. So my thing was, okay, let me do well in the science classes, which I did really well in my science classes are all right, like bees, but I didn't really, there was no vigor in a lot of the stuff I was learning, you know? So yeah, I didn't have to get by then I, when I got to college, like I knew, okay, I gotta be a doctor. So that's when I deleted my Maple story account and cried about that and stopped gaming as much. Um, and I just worked really hard in college, but then I left because I realized I didn't want to be a doctor anymore.

And I just focused on what I wanted to do. So for me, school was like it was just something I did to get by because I know that this was a path for me to become a professional in what I wanted to do at the time, which was medicine. But I think the whole the whole time, like I didn't really love it. So I didn't really apply myself that much. Whereas like when I realized that I really loved learning about like fitness and nutrition and stuff like that, I'm reading and learning about that stuff literally every single day. And that was like when I really realized what it was that I liked to do. So that's why when I look back at school, first off, kudos to all the kids that were just like, you know, you know, I guess they had more motivation than me back in high school because even though they didn't want to do it they just did it right but like i just wish i knew what i wanted to do earlier like i really knew what i wanted to do i feel like a

lot of people kind of know what they want to do but i wish i really knew and i feel like that's just tough um but yeah yeah yeah the way i feel like i i've said that multiple times like oh i wish i knew back in high school i wanted to do photography but it wasn't so much that like uh i guess the options weren't there but i i really did not even think that that was like a career path yeah so for yourself like oh i want to get into fitness it's like who the hell is going to be around you to say oh and sema you can actually follow your who the hell is going to be around you to say, oh, and Seema, you can actually follow your passion. Yeah.

And it's going to pay off. Like, that's crazy. And that's the thing. Like the drive for in terms of fitness, I really liked it. I was really into that stuff. Like I told you in high school, I went no carb to try and get shredded. I was eating like a thousand calories a day or something. That's nuts.

And I got leaner, but I was also very dizzy. I weren't feeling very good. I was not feeling good. So I was already into that, but I never thought of that being a viable career path because that wasn't going to bring in money. I knew that medicine would bring in money and I'm all right at science. So let me just do that. It makes sense. So it was more of a positive thing, right? It wasn't like how I was giving the example of Kalipaa he woke up and was like oh my gosh i'm sitting next to a seventh year freshman in junior college i don't

want to be like that it was more like i really want to follow my passion instead of you know following medicine when i left yes okay like when i realized what i wanted to do that's when i left or actually it wasn't that i realized that i wanted to go into fitness, but I realized that I didn't want to go into medicine. So I was like, I don't know what I want to do, so I need to stop spending money. And that's an easier route for people is to find out, like, think about the things that you don't want to do, the shit that you don't like. Because if I sit here and I'm like, and let's say you're 16, and I'm like, what do you love to do? Or even say you're 36, right? Like sit down and ask you, just ask yourself this question. What do you love to do? It's like,

man, I don't know. Like I like making money. I like working hard. Like I like a good challenge. Like I like watching some TV with my girlfriend or wife or like, you know, it's like, you're kind of like at a loss for like, what do you you really you might not really be super passionate like i love catching a football game here and there but like you might not have like a thing that you're really crazy about maybe you have a couple of hobbies but maybe you're still not like super fired up or inspired by any any particular thing and then it's like okay well let's try to come from the other side of it what what do you know that you don't like and you could say i know for a fact that I don't like a nine to five. It's like, okay, we can kind of, that's a lot of jobs we can rule out if you don't like a nine to five. I don't, you know what,

man, to be honest with you, I don't, I don't think I really work that well when I have like a boss and it's like, okay, well now we need to figure out how are you going to have a job that's going to, you know, maybe you are a personal trainer. Maybe you're an online coach. Maybe you are. There's so many different things you can go into. But now it starts to open your mind up towards narrowing things down and trying to find out what you want to do. The weird thing about being a kid is like I think that if someone came to you and said, hey, you can like if someone came someone came to you and said you can make money, you know, taking pictures,

you might have thought it was kind of cool. But then the immediate sales pitch after that was, well, you better get good grades because you need to go to a good school to learn how to, and it's like, meh, shut off, boom, like, back to video games, fuck that, like, I don't want to do that. Yeah.

I do think that it's important that people go through like a struggle and it doesn't have to be it doesn't have to be like hard times doesn't have to be like someone doesn't need to die to you know for this to happen doesn't you don't have to have a divorce or you don't have to have like crazy things happen in your life to to have like a struggle but just some resistance like Like you were messing around in the medical field. You were trying some stuff and you're like, you got some pushback in some different ways and realize like, you know, I don't think this fits my lifestyle. And then how unhealthy, I mean, you want to talk about some of the most unhealthy people in the world. You look

at like teachers and you look at nurses and doctors. I mean, they're hustling around. It's kind of understandable. But when you start to recognize the things that you don't want to do, I think that can really help a lot. And you know who can identify shit that they don't want to do better than any other people in the world?

Little kids. They are masters of it. Hey, dude, what do you want to be when you grow up? They might have a couple ideas because they're six. I want to be a cop. I want to be a fireman or I want to be I want to be in the military or whatever. I want to be rich. Like they might just say something crazy. Right. But they don't really know. They definitely know what they don't like, though. They know that for sure. Do you like broccoli? Nope. Like not only will they not only will they say no, they will like shake their head and go crazy.

And they might scream no. You like ice cream? They might ice cream, you scream, and I'll scream for ice cream. They might be pumped, right? And so I think as a kid, it's really interesting stuff where you're just so into, I just want to be a part of hanging out with my friends, man. to like i just want to be like a part of like like hanging out with my friends man and then as you get older you get attached to things uh more so than you get attached to people because i think you find enough stability in some of the people that are around you but as a kid it's like that's

the most important thing is like i don't know like what's up with this dude but he's like the same height as me and we're the same age and we look similar like i want to hang out with this guy like we need to go fucking climb a tree or something you know you're like we got to be we got to be homies i don't know how it's going to happen but we need to figure it out you know though um i like it's funny because when i started working out at 13 um there was i don't remember his name but he would have thought I was so weird. I worked at this club center in Natomas. And the first time I trained there, there was there was this really tall, jacked black dude. And I was just like, I want to look like that guy.

So, you know, I was like super shy. I never talked to the dude, but I'd always I kind kind of figured out what time he would work out 7 PM, 7 30 PM every Monday, Tuesday, Thursday. This might've been my friend, uh, Terreno who was here yesterday.

Maybe, but it was every Monday, Tuesday, Thursday, Friday night. And he was never there on Wednesdays or the weekends. So I would always come in around those times and like, I'd be on the machines watching him trying to see what he was doing and how he was

working out yeah like crush on him after he'd do something i'd like i didn't want him to like know i was copying him but i'd just be like i'd do the same thing and i just watch him and for weeks and i never introduced myself to the exact same workout yeah i never introduced myself and this was like five months and then he moved away and never came back oh yeah he probably i don't know where he moved but like that's where i got my workout knowledge because it was literally almost every single week i'd be in the gym at the same time as this dude and i just like copy him right so like from there like i had an example of somebody that i wanted to look like because he kind of looks like me now like like he he was big and he was bulbous i was like i want to look like that guy so you

bring up actually a really good point like uh copying is always like um is normally like frowned upon but it's actually a really great place to start and when we had um we had elliot holtz on on the show um i was kind of shocked that he said that that was a thing for him to like just imitate and uh copy other people because he seems so original right he said but like you have to start somewhere he's like so i copied this guy and i copied that guy and you find things in people that you admire you find things that you like and you're like that seems pretty cool as a kid though it's really hard to understand what's not cool sometimes like like you know the things that you like um but you think it's cool to like not do your work you think it's cool to like not walk around with your books you think it's cool uh like the cool the cool kids they're

they don't have great they don't have great grades they don't they don't uh like you don't want to overly excel in anything except for maybe like a sport, you know, because then you get admiration from the girls that go to the school and, and the other guys that go to the school and stuff. But like, you know, kicking ass in your calculus class, like that doesn't, you know,

that doesn't really sound all that, all that great. And I think, you know, I think it's important that kids do exactly what you just mentioned right there. Find, find someone that has something, you know, has something going on. And it's not even kids.

I should just say it's for all people. Find some people around you that have something going on where you're like, I like those characteristics a lot, man. I'm going to try better at a couple of these things and just see what you can do. What do you think about the idea of just doing – like you mentioned that figuring out what you don't like, right? You know Casey Neistat? Yeah, absolutely. He talked about – yeah. Yeah, he skated by on his skateboard.

He skated by me and my kids and my son freaked out and i didn't know what was going on and he goes that was uh casey neistat or whatever and i was like i was like wait i was like who i was like wait that's the youtube guy right and i said where did he go he's like i don't know yeah i was gonna like run run him down but he was flying yeah when you guys mark just said about copying people i tried to imitate him when i was doing hustlemania for mark so that's why a lot of the you know the angles i would get like mark would see me i would set up a camera like in a weird spot and then we would just become part of the scene and then eventually i'd run and go get it yeah but it's because i would i was dude i was obsessed with casey neistat vlogs back in

the day and it's not just you he changed the landscape of youtube he was the guy that started drone footage and then every YouTuber started getting drones for drone footage yeah like like it worked too so like he changed that landscape so people started doing what he was doing but um like what I was saying was like he when he what when he figured out what he wanted to do he started off like as a dishwasher so he knew he just had to get a job he did that he hated it he had a lot of shit jobs until like he really knew okay this is what I wanted to do. He started off like as a dishwasher. So he knew he just had to get a job. He did that. He hated it. He had a lot of shit jobs until like he really knew, okay, this is what I want to do because I really, really hate doing this. So somehow I think it'd be, it's great to like get some experience doing something, whatever it is, whether you're volunteering somewhere. Cause that's how I figured out that I didn't want to go into the medical field by

volunteering in a hospital. Um, and like, you know, I worked at a gym. There were certain things I knew I didn't like. Like, I didn't like being, I guess, an employee that had to answer to a boss and had a set schedule. I didn't like a set schedule. I liked it. I wanted some type of flexibility. So then I moved into training people on my own in a private gym. So that that's how I kind of came across what I like by doing things and getting experience and figuring out what I do enjoy and what I don't enjoy. I think it'd be somehow if you could figure that out younger, that'd be even more powerful. But wherever you are right now, whether you're in your 20s or 30s, you could still figure that out right now.

I think going through a bunch of shit that you really dislike is super important. I just got in saying, oh, I wish I knew in high school that I could be a photographer one day. But I needed to go through a lot of bad shit in order to realize, oh, wait, this is what I love to do. And then once I actually have the opportunity to do it every day, I'm not going to throw it away. I think that's really important. I think we can all agree nothing would be a a waste of time really, you know, in pursuing like a job, you know. You get like, let's say you get a job at like a movie theater or something like that. Maybe you just simply learn like, maybe you learn from the manager of like how to treat people. Maybe the manager is great.

Like maybe they're like, wow, like that person every day, they thank me for my work. They make me feel special every time and they do the same for everybody else. Or maybe they're a shit manager. And you're like, you know what? I'm never gonna treat anybody that way. Like regardless whether it's work or whatever,

like I don't vibe with that, I don't like that. You're gonna learn stuff and then you're gonna learn stuff that you like to do. Like, oh, I like greeting people at the front door. And I like saying hello to them. And I like ripping their ticket for them and telling them where to go sit or whatever. But I don't dig mopping the floor. Like, that's not, I don't like cleaning the toilets or whatever, right?

You're going to learn a lot about yourself. And there's going to be those things that you have to do that you really don't want to do, but you're going to be doing them when you don't want to do them. And that builds a lot of character. It builds a lot of strength. And then, you know, here's where I think people are sometimes messing up because they're, you're still able to do a lot of great things in this world right now. You're able to like monetize stuff and you're able to get quick feedback and likes and comments that make you feel really good and that give you momentum. But you really need to be able to, you really do need to be able to figure out a way

to carry your own responsibilities on your back and proceed forward at all times. So you have to be making a living while also pursuing a dream. You don't want to, you don't want to be pursuing a dream and not doing much, you know, like if you're just pursuing the dream and that's all that you're working on all the time, that's kind of cool in some ways, but man, you're going to be pretty dysfunctional and you might be, you might find yourself being pretty sad and pretty upset with yourself and maybe depressed even because you might not feel like you have much value because you can't take care of yourself you know so kind of like the starving artist uh mentality and i and i am a big believer in like bucket man do whatever you need to do to get to wherever you need to get

to and if you need to sleep in your car for a little while, that's fine. But you really shouldn't be sleeping in your, you know, you should figure out a way to have enough finances to get you headed, heading in the right direction. There's no reason why you can't do that and chase down your dreams like kind of on the side. And then the roles will reverse. You'll be actually living your dream and you can be like, I don't really need this job anymore. And you can start to move on to something else. Yeah, it's the Aubrey Marcus's method of like, I mean, a lot of people say smile through the suck, but that's what he implemented when he had a marketing job that he hated. But he went through it and dealt with it because he wanted to start on it. He knew he was going to have to do something in order to put himself in a position to do what he really, really wants to do. And it wasn't like, oh, I'm going to sleep in my car. It was like, no, I'm going to work my ass off at this job that I don't love, but it's going to afford me the opportunity to start my own company. And I think that's, that's one of the biggest takeaways from that book that I can remember. You know, one thing I think is pretty important too, and in situations like that,

when you do have like, when you do have a job and, and there's, by the way, people like, if you do have a job or a nine to five, there's nothing wrong with a nine to five. I'm not saying like, it's just like, it wasn't for me. It wasn't for us. Right. But if you do have that, and let's say that you don't necessarily like it and you're working on something else. I know quite a few people who they kind of really got comfortable with what they had. They're like, yo, I'm making all right money. This thing, I like it, but it doesn't seem feasible. And they just kind of give up on that. And yeah, maybe sometimes you do find it's too hard and you give up on it. But sometimes when you get too comfortable, it gets easy to just give up on what you wanted to do because right now you're like you're just all

right you know what i mean how do you feel about that because i mean sometimes like there are situations where that that is what it is but um how do you think somebody can can like fight that because i know a lot of people that are just kind of stuck where they are and they're not pursuing what they really want to do because it just it's too unrealistic at this point yeah um and you just mentioned the key word right there realistic like what what is uh what is something that's realistic for you and maybe you've been chasing something down for a long time and it just it uh it hasn't happened yet and those are those are tough situations. Cause it's like, are you just going to kind of chase after something forever? Um, and not really be like a functioning part of society the way that the way that you really need to be. Um, I think

that, uh, I think that giving up on your dream though might cost you more so than anything else. Like it might be more painful to do that than to do anything else. Like, um, if, if you had this, this goal that you were really, you know, you really always wanted to try to accomplish as long as it's not like, you know, out of this world, like I want to make a hundred million dollars a year or something like that. I mean, you can, you can be as like wishful as you want and it's possible that certain – it might not become 0.025% of the population or whatever the hell it is, right? So you have to be a little bit reasonable about it. But I think that you should be – you should always hold on to your dreams. And maybe like – maybe you shoot for the

moon and you still end up in the sky, you know, you still end up a little bit above the clouds. And it's like, you know, I, I went after a 600 pound bench, right. And I, and I failed and I tried it several times. I actually tried a 600 pound bench once in a meet twice in the gym. And all three times that I tried it, I got hurt, you know? And I, at some point you're like, okay, like I really want that. And then you start to kind of think about, okay, why do I want, I had something I had to give up on. I had to pass on it and be like, it just doesn't make sense for me anymore to keep, like you guys wouldn't even want to see it. You know what I mean? You'd be like, dude, like you're going to get like like really hurt like you're compromising your health so you have to put things

into some sort of perspective um you know what sometimes i mean when it's something physical like that too like like i'm not stopping jujitsu until i get a world championship and and maybe you do hold on to that forever because there's different age categories and stuff you can get into yeah and you could be like 70 years old and like dude and sema like it ain't gonna happen bro what are you what are you doing you're gonna get jacked up but you do it's important that you you hold on to your dreams and maybe your dreams shift because your goals shift a lot that happens often your goals your goals are going to change a lot as you get older and um there's a lot of things that I have done that I've been pumped

about. And I also got greedy. Like I wanted to do a thousand pound squat and then that wasn't good enough. I wanted to do 1100 and I wanted to do a 700 pound bench and I ended up doing an 854 pound bench. And when I did that, I was like, I got to do 900. Yeah. And then I wanted to deadlift over 700. I deadlifted 766 and I was like, I need 800. And I just never went. I never ended up with that 800. So you end up with some of it. I ended up with a pretty damn good powerlifting career. Yeah. You know, the first off about the goal shifting, um, that happens a lot. Like I remember when I first got back, when I first got into natural bodybuilding at like 22 or something,

right? Yeah. Natural bodybuilding. All right. Anyway, when I first got into natural bodybuilding, I did those shows. The only natural about that's the trend. Okay.

I'm full of jokes today. You know, straight up though, I, I really am digging the nickname trend SEMA. I'm using it for like all my usernames on things. It just really flows. Like I'm not on on trend people but trend sema sounds kind of dope trend sema pin yang trend sema pin yang that's my favorite yeah we know that you're not on trend

right andrew wink someone needs to make an ig trend sema pin yang i'll just you know i'm just gonna make that i'll be yeah you'll be the next. You'll be the next Tony Huge. Be the next Tony Huge. Anyway, no. Yo, I'm not on drugs, yo, but let me get back to this shit. I promise I'm not on drugs. I promise. Anyway. 6'1", 250, 7% body fat. Year round, too. Year round.

That's the thing. But, you know, imagine if he actually tried what he could do. Why do we even have him on the show? He's using the chemistry to help him not work as hard. Is this your idea, Andrew? Actually, no, this was not my idea. Oh, fuck. Do you not remember this was Smokey's idea?

Yeah, when the idea actually came to me, I said no. Was this my idea? I think so. I really hope not. Yeah. You took too much mind bullet one day and like you know what man i love nsema i'm gonna have them on the podcast i felt all the warm hugs anyway back to your bullshit story

all right hey yo when i when i started in the natural bodybuilding, right? You can't even say it. I'm sorry. Okay. In 2015, in 2015, I went to Worlds. You know Doug Miller, right? He's fucking jacked. He's fucking jacked. And like on Instagram, because I was so pumped, I'm like, yo, give me six years.

I'm going to beat Doug Miller on stage, right? And I started doing powerlifting. And like I really dug that. I really liked building strength. And then strength was my goal along with getting bigger. But then I started jujitsu and then jujitsu caught me. And like, like now that that became my main athletic goal, like goals shift,

they, they shift a lot. And I think it's okay to, to let that happen. Because if you find new experiences, you find new things that you really enjoy and that really fit your personality but another thing and it's a tool for like whether you're like 15 16 listening to this or you're like 20 30 40 it's have you ever uh heard about the self-authoring suite by jordan peterson yeah yeah dude that thing if you're if you find it

hard to really think about this that whole, it's like you could buy it. It's like 15 bucks for the whole suite. It has you go over, like you literally go over your past, you go over your present, you go over your future. And it asks you all of these just like just a bunch of questions. Jason Kalipa is calling. Oh, snap. It asks you like. It's quantum.

It asks you like a bunch of questions that like have you go into detail about like what you want to do, why you want to do it, who you want to do it with, what you envision your social life looking like, why that is. It has you go over your personality. It has you go over all of these things very, very, very deeply. I think I did that like a year and a half ago because like I wanted to try it out. And when I was doing it with my buddy, like we were just trying to see is this something that's going to help us out this is something you did like online or something like that yeah you fill out some information and uh what's it like going through that process is it um does it make you feel good does it make you feel bad is it like emotional at all like yes i would imagine like it would be because I mean, look, man, like you start.

People are terrified to go to like a therapist, right? Like they got some problems. Right. And going to a therapist reminds me of going to like a therapist for an injury. Yeah. Like my elbow kind of hurts. But then what do they do to you? Like they fucking dig in deep. Right. And it hurts really, really bad. But then what what happens the pain can subside and you can kind of start to do something about it be active about it and i think what you're talking about can be like kind of you're like man like because you have these hopes and dreams and nobody's nobody's ever where they want to be right yeah otherwise you wouldn't be filling out the fucking survey right yeah man like dude like seriously first off it helped me clarify a lot of the things i wanted to like one of the things I wrote down in there was I want to do more stuff with voice. Like I want to do more stuff in terms of podcasting. And it's not like I willed that shit into existence or anything. But later on, you invited me onto this and now I get to do this. You know, that's that. That was crazy to me. It's like before that, I wasn't even really thinking about that being a big deal. But when I shopping block, by the way, I know that's why I really got up.

I got to perform. But like, no, seriously, when I when I I came to that conclusion on that because it helped me dwindle down a lot of the things I wanted to focus on. And that ended up being one of those things. But before this, I never really thought about that being viable until it brought me to that conclusion. And then another thing it did, it helped it. There is a part of it that made you try to realize what do you want your life not to look like? And it asked a lot of questions. That shit made me cry. Like it made you really think of like, if everything goes wrong, or if

you're living a life that you don't want to live, right? If you didn't achieve the things you want to achieve, what does your life look like? And when you really think that deeply about that, that, that dude, I literally, that made me emotional. I got sad because it makes you go deep on both sides of things. So like, really, if you're trying to figure, if you don't know what you want to do, or you're trying to figure out, you're trying to narrow it down. It takes hours. It takes a while to finish it and it is work. But by the end end of that you will have narrowed things down and have an idea of what you actually want to focus on it's crazy it's like going to a therapist like you said yeah i get in a lot of good conversation i feel like blessed that i have some people that will like open up to me and communicate with me um because it gives me a lot of life experiences and

um you know someone the other day they were just telling me like you know like i'm x amount of years old and like what story am i writing you know and they're bummed about it because they're like i you know i don't know if i even wrote one page you know and it's obviously i'm not talking about actually writing a book but they're just saying like maybe they've been writing somebody else's book you you know, and it's all stuff to think about. It is it's a healthy practice to kind of examine, like, are you doing the things that you want to do? And if you're not doing some of the things that you want to do, you don't need to be beat yourself up over it. But you need to figure out how can I do more of the things that I like? And I'm not just talking about things that make you happy, because, you know, if you just did shit that made you happy, maybe that would be a slippery slope. Like if you just ate ice cream all the time, cause you dig ice cream, like it doesn't sound like a healthy option, you know?

And you can get carried away with a lot of the things that you enjoy. Like you can over-exercise, right? There's a lot of things you can kind of overdo that you like, um, even like alcohol or something like that is a good example. Right. And so I think you need to try to figure out, what are some things that really fulfill me? What are things that make me really feel good? And then you start to think about, how can I do that a little bit more? I think about that every day.

I think about it every single day. I scan over like, I didn't really like that that much, or I did dig that. I know for me right now, I love focusing on other people, or at least trying to. And then sometimes I might get a little irritated by it because I'm like, I don't have any fucking time for myself as I do kind of stretch myself kind of thin. But then I need to just think and say, you know what? No, no. You're following a lot of the stuff that you want to do. You are

helping people. You are communicating with. And so it so it's not an easy thing to balance. Yeah. How safe do you think it is to be a little unrealistic with some of the things you're into? We just said it's important to be realistic. But you brought up, I want to eat ice cream every day. But what if I turn that into a YouTube channel? And I'm thinking, oh, maybe this will lead to getting a sponsorship from an ice cream company or something. John Berardi eats ice cream every day.

You can figure out. And he's jacked. Yeah, you can figure things out and you can make sense of stuff. Like I did the month off of coffee or whatever, and I was like, you know what, I just enjoy coffee. And so when I looked back at it and I got a different perspective, I was like, you know what I'm not going to do? I'm going to really work on avoiding drinking coffee because I'm tired. So now that's like something that I've been working on. I'll even on days where I'm more

sleepy, you would think I would try to drink more coffee. I like just the act of drinking coffee. So I'll actually get decaf and then i'm like you got to correct this shit on your own you need to overcome this stuff on your own you need to what do you need to do need to get to sleep on time you know and need to like sleep is um we talk about it endlessly on this podcast but it is it's a really crucial thing and a lot of people just aren't very good at it and something you need to work at just like um just like anything else but having like goals that aren't are completely um irrational uh can kill you i mean that's how that's how fucking powerful it can i've seen it kill friends before um friends have got addicted to drugs and painkillers and stuff because they wanted to be

like a rock star they wanted to be a professional wrestler they wanted to be it was like they were trying to be they were trying to be great yeah and because of that they forgot all the steps in in the middle you know they forgot all the steps to start out it's like man if you're going to be if you're trying to be great then you need to be like average and ordinary first. And then show me that you can be average and ordinary for a long period of time. And you know what that ends up being? It ends up being great because if you're like, maybe someone, uh, might think, uh, with Andrew, Andrew's not, you know, 275 pounds, all muscle. So it's not like overwhelming when you see him. Right. But somebody might think, uh, you know, he's not, not a multimillionaire. it's not like overwhelming when you see him right but somebody might think

uh you know he's not not a multi-millionaire he's not you know driving out driving up in a bentley right so someone might think like oh it's just like whatever and it's like no no this is a guy that cares about all the people around him this is a guy who's fucking consistent as hell this is a guy who works really hard this is a guy who's going to stay late show up early like do all the shit that's necessary just to be good every single day and then if you're good if you're good every single day and beyond being good he goes above and beyond his job he wants to continue to learn wants to continue to get better and so when you start to see that you're like he's fucking great he's great at what he does and is there room to get better it's not like you can be like, hey, peace out.

I'm great. But that's greatness. And I think that people are missing out on that because you see maybe so many other things going on that you're kind of viewing as, oh, that person got a million likes on their thing or whatever. And you're viewing all's just being consistent like people like Ed Cohn and Jay Cutler and these people that we all admire. If you really think about what do they have in common, it's that real chunk of being good and being consistent for a really long time. It's also a big deal, though, like as you're being consistent at something naturally, when you continue to move forward with it, you will make shifts when you find out things aren't working right it doesn't mean that your your whole goal changed but like when you were developing the slingshot or you're trying to come up with that idea like you probably had to make

so many shifts because just certain things weren't working the right way right like you just you just made changes um a buddy of mine eric kenry do you know who he is i don't know okay so eric kenry his i think his fat his um his cereal instagram is family food dude and what he does is he likes sweets and cereals and these just weird snacks like odd flavored pop tarts or whatever he's a healthy dude too and he actually i think he's gotten back into wrestling too like he does uh some amateur wrestling because he used to do that back in the day but for the longest time like i back on instagram back in like 2013 through 2012 right eric has been doing like this this uh this like cereal and like sweets thing for for a long time because he just likes him and his wife

they're the type of people to buy a box of donuts and take a bite of each and throw away the donuts because they like just to try and see how things taste. So they just love that. Right. So what he's been doing for the longest time before he, before it took off was just like posting videos and posting his reviews of like what he thinks about different types of like really sweet things, you know, like that Trader Joe's cinnamon bun spread, right? He'll, he'll

give it a rating and it wasn't like, it wasn't getting a lot of traction, but then like after, I think four or five years of this, this stuff, right. He got picked up by like, I don't know, just something happened where he got picked up by some company or whatever. And it just blew up. And this thing just like now he does it with his son. He has videos where him and his son try stuff. And it's just like, that's the thing he wanted to do. And he was still working with people as a strength coach. And so does his wife. But he continued to hammer away at that. And that is like super unrealistic, like thinking that, you know, you're just some dude in florida and you like tasting shit and people really end up liking it to think that and just to keep hammering away

at that that's like that's just how this type of thing can happen but he probably had to make so many shifts to make that work for him now you know it's it's awesome seeing how it worked out for him but also it was cool to see how for years not that many people were paying that much attention. And then just consistently it took off. It takes a long time to get recognition and to have people paying attention to it. And so when it comes to a social media platform, maybe people were following him. He's into working out and stuff. Yeah.

Right? Yeah. maybe people were following him. He's, he's into working out and stuff. That's right. So maybe people were following him cause he's into like working out, he's into fitness family guy. And so people were, you know, following him for that. He probably just has family following him just like everybody else does. And then when he started making those posts, there's probably a lot of people are like, I don't, I don't dig this. Like, why is he showing me on healthy food all the time? I thought he's a fitness guy. And they go away. But that's actually really good because the new people that are coming through the door, they found you specifically for, like, what you're showing and what you're viewing.

And now you can, you know, quote, unquote, sell them on this idea. You're not really trying to make them purchase anything necessarily. But then those people are going to be so excited. They're going to share that information with other people. I was like, I got to tag my boy and see me. He loves all this crap too. You know? And that's what happens. Like, look how fun this is. This guy's eating all this different stuff. Check out his kid, man. He's got chocolate over his face. Right. And people share it and it starts to grow and grow and grow. And that's like, you know, that, that is a great thing it just takes you know it's going to

take time right um where i think people can you know maybe save themselves some time is just unrealistic goals in terms of like maybe it's just not like like maybe you just maybe it just doesn't make any sense like um like if i wanted to be a like in the WNBA right like it's like there's certain characters I guess like now I guess yeah I guess now yeah I guess now maybe you know you could but you kind of like see my point like even just saying like me in the NBA it's like I I do love basketball but like that's not enough to get me there and uh for me to try to shift gears, even if I was a pretty good basketball player right now, it's like what would I have to do to be able to do that? Now there are things that are wild that are probably out of reach for you now that you could convert yourself over into doing. But it would take so many steps.

Let's take like something like a backflip, right? Like I only started jumping about three months ago just in training you know jumping on boxes and stuff what if i committed to a backflip now like first thing that comes to my mind for a backflip is i probably would need to be more mobile right so that would take some time but can i do a backflip fuck yeah i can do a backflip but it's probably it would probably honestly take me about two years of me really probably taking semen like a month, but it probably taken me like two years of really trying to work on it. Maybe for me, I'd have to lose like 40 pounds. It's like, can I lose 40 pounds? Like that would, that would suck, but I can, I can take the steps. So like, that's some of the stuff you got to ask yourself, like the goal that you have,

you know, go back to John Brardy's podcast. Everyone should be listening to that podcast. Check it out. And everyone should, you know, look into some of the books and stuff that he has to offer because he talked about how he sets those goals up. And it's like, what are the steps to get there? The steps for me to go from who I am right now to get into the nba i could start to write it out like fuck man i need to be a lot faster i need more agility like i can barely

dribble like i dribble off my foot all the time that's not very productive for being in the nba you know so i you could write out all these things i'd be like wow that going to take me about eight years to be like proficient at that stuff. And I'm going to be 50. Is there anybody in the NBA that's 50? No. Right. So it's like, you can start to kind of rule certain things out and maybe it's too much of a stretch. Maybe it's too unhealthy for me to get back into powerlifting, for me to get, you know, back in a squat suit and for me to pursue an eight or 900 pound squat, I could do all those things, but man, would I be fucked? And would it, it would be, it'd be too much of a compromise. So I ain't going to go for it. When you just mentioned like, uh, what's it going to take for me to get into the NBA? You know,

kids always talk about like, Oh, I'm going to be a professional basketball player someday. And a lot of this has to do with this mind. This thought that I have has a lot to do with, uh, the most recent episode with Charlie rocket, which I'm going to go on record and say it's the most underrated podcast episode across any platform ever. You guys need to listen to that.

But, um, yeah, let's say you want to go to the NBA. Okay. You're, you know, five,

six, you, you dribble off your feet, whatever, like you're, it's probably not want to go to the NBA. You're 5'6", you dribble off your feet, whatever. It's probably not going to happen. But what if you studied basketball so damn much that you know defense better than anybody that's ever even touched a clipboard? you know, point guard for the Kings. But what if you're the head defensive coach or, you know, you're on the sidelines? Okay, you didn't make it onto the team, but you still are in the NBA. And it's all because you had a certain passion and you never gave up. So I think that's like, yeah, okay, I'm not going to,

like an unrealistic goal is to be like on an all-star team. That's our buddy Carlos, who's been filming for us more recently. He loves basketball. He's like, man, he's like, he's like i probably wasn't gonna you know probably wasn't gonna be able to figure out you know how to play in the nba he's like so there i'm there i am filming games for them but yo sick yeah exactly your your example brings up an example of somebody who did something super similar his name i forgot i don't know his name but his youtube name is the professor you know who i'm talking about uh the and one mixtape guy yeah oh the

professor the professor the professor because like yeah like i've seen that guy before exactly since a kid he's wanted to be in the nba right but he's like a five seven five six white dude right so he built his handles he ended up going into and one mixtape and all that type of stuff nowadays he's one of the biggest basketball like influencers out there right he does videos with like nba players um and he just like like he does videos analyzing nba players and other stuff and it's just like it's crazy because he doesn't have the build of some top basketball player right but he just loved it so much that he figured out a way. He shifted his goals and he figured out a way to do something

with his love of basketball contrary to what everybody else thought. Like he was so exciting to watch. Exactly right. And I think he was a teenager at that point too, bro. Like he was a teenager. But that's the thing. Like that is something super unrealistic, but something can be figured out you know yeah it's tough because sometimes you don't know when you should stop or if you should continue but if you just keep going you'll

figure out a way to make things fit you and maybe you'll and maybe you can figure out like what it is that you're looking for like this, this kid probably loves basketball so much. One of his main goals was probably just to like, wow, people with the ball. And he's certainly accomplishing all that. You know, there's a,

maybe all you can do is shoot, but you go around and just shoot the lights out wherever you go. And people are digging on that. You know, it could be, there's a lot of different, um, a lot of different ways to still get the attention.

I think that it's important though to have these like strong powerful dreams as a kid you grow up and you play soccer and you're like man i'm gonna be on the olympic team one day i think that's great like i think that's a healthy that's a healthy thing and like the world the world is full of plenty of negativity and we can get down to reality at some other point yeah i heard a really cool analogy the other day where they were talking about this guy was talking about a garden and how he helped his grandma with his with his garden all the time and uh she was teaching him like how these things grow they've got to water it we got to make sure it's position you know in position to get like sun and we got a groom it and this and that. And he came back like two weeks later and there was a lot of

weeds. He's like, you know, grandma, I think you said, you know, we got a water like the area in order for things to grow. She's like, oh, those are weeds. They don't need, they don't need any water or sunlight. They're going to grow anyway. Like obviously they need something. But the point is like, there's going to be plenty of negative shit around and there'll be plenty of reality checks as you go through life. And I think it's, it's actually a great thing when you're young to think that you're going to be like in the NFL. And at some point, again, you'll have to, reality is going to kick in at some point and things will start to make more sense. Your goals will start to shift and it's not you just being compromising and necessarily giving up but you're like you know what what makes more sense for me and that could even be you know meeting a

significant other or something maybe you have this maybe you're really driven you're like i want to you know go around the country and i want to you know do all this different stuff and then you meet somebody you're like i'm chilling right here like you know i i don't really want to move around that much because i i enjoy being with this person and so then your goals change and then you're like well maybe you know rather than uh you know traveling as much as i thought maybe i'll travel with this person you know twice a year something you know and you start to come up with some uh compromise and you start to come up with some compromise and you start to come up with things that make more sense for your lifestyle yeah now I'm saying not me yeah so then what's uh I mean I guess just the changing of goals is that like what you use what you use now for motivation mark because there's a lot of people that are like maybe they they got the job that they wanted maybe it stalled out a

little bit but now it's like man okay now how do I kick it into another gear to re obtain another goal of mine? I think the main thing for me right now is trying to like make things more, uh, optimal, you know, how do you like optimize stuff? How do you like, I think there's a lot of things I can tweak and there's a lot of things I can make better. So, uh, why not, you know, why not stack it up and go and go kind of vertical with those things rather than like trying to continue to like expand outward. You know, I've done that before and it's like, that doesn't make me feel very good. And it, it kind of like, uh, puts a lot on you. But if I kind of stack it up vertically, if I'm like,

uh, you know, Hey, like some of this digital marketing is good. Like let's, you know, in football, you would just say, let's run the same play, you know, hey, like some of this digital marketing is good. Like let's, you know, in football, you would just say, let's run the same play. You know, let's run that goddamn play again. You know, it got us five yards. And if we get another five yards, we get another first down. So those are the kind of things I think about now. How do I take things and make them more optimal? And I am motivated by that.

That does get me, you know, it's not as exciting as like trying something totally new. Uh, but I'm not going to like try, you know, something new, you know, every other week there's always business is really weird because everything is always just like kind of different anyway. Every situation is different. And, um, all the different things that you try, they, they end up just, they just end up being different. Every commercial that we shoot is different. Every photo shoot that we do is different. Um, they all have their challenges. They all have their, um, kind of advantages and disadvantages, but really just trying to like optimize stuff. I mean,

this sheet is a good example that we got from Jessica today about, we have Jay Nara coming in uh coming up and or tomorrow Wednesday Wednesday Wednesday's day is Monday um and then it just has it's just a chart it's got the information on like when he's coming in what we're doing I mean even our lunch is on there you know um when I went and saw Gary Vee he showed me his like calendar his shower is on there he has he has his shower is on his schedule. It's like, why is your shower there? He's like, I take a shower at that time.

So boom, 10 minutes. And he does a 10-minute shower. He times it. He's a nut. But it's something that works for him. He's able to kind of schedule these things. And then back to some of what we were talking about with Jason Kalipa. This can be really motivating too is to have this as many reps as possible mindset we don't want to be like you know

we don't want to like wear ourselves out you know but uh you know jason's mindset grew over a long period of time that's also important to know so if you're like man i don't have energy for that that's okay none of us do none of us did You'll gain more energy as you go along. And the more that you do, the more you can do, the more that you'll be able to handle. You look at someone like The Rock. You know, years ago, The Rock was went to college and he played football. And like, what else did he do? Probably like partied a little bit and went to class like normal shit, right? And then what did he evolve into? Then for a while he was doing – he was in WWE and he was doing Raw and SmackDown tapings all over the country, traveling the world. That's a lot on your plate. But mainly he was kind of one thing. He was a wrestler. And then as he progressed, he started doing wrestling and movies

at the same time and then he kind of he dumped the wrestling and now he's in movies and tv he's got ballers i mean for a little while there i think he had about two or three movies kind of coming in and out of the movie theater like in the same in the same time span and he's like on the cover of like gq muscle and fitness and it's like i don't and fitness. And it's like, I don't, I don't get it, man. Like for some people that can make them feel like kind of down. Cause they're like, I can't, you know, I can't even like just go to class in one given day. But, uh, you know, you just keep working and you'll build up your capacity. You'll be able to handle more work.

It's same as training. Uh, maybe the first time, like I've been given Charlie Rocket these really easy workouts. I'm like, do three sets of 10 of curls and three sets of 10 of overhead presses with dumbbells. Go back and forth on that. And he's like, what else? I'm like, that's it.

Fucking peace out. Get out of the gym, you know? Just giving him like, you know, really, really easy, real mild, mild stuff. Because in the beginning, I don't want him to go in there and get all sore, beginning, I don't want him to go in there and get all sore. Right. I don't want him to go in there and be like, oh, my God, I can't walk. I can't move. So really, really start really simple. And you build up on top of that.

And like, as you're mentioning the rock for all my my nerds out there, millennials, you remind me of like a pokemon duane johnson evolves into duane johnson the the movie star evolves into duane johnson but whatever you just went from wrestler to move wrestling to movies to this to this you know what i mean um did you guys watch hobbs and shaw by the way playing card the rock huh he needs pokemon playing card he needs like the wrestling yeah he'd be overpowered op oh man dude i watched tobs and shaw last night that movie's insane yeah i haven't seen it he's pretty strong man he like held the helicopter with one arm yeah well no and then there's one scene where he sticks his arm out of a uh i forgot the car but

they're driving really really fast and there's a motorcycle driving really really fast at them and he sticks his arm out. Clothesline. No, he literally grabs them and he holds them and then smashes them into the wall as they're still driving. Yeah. Like, dude, how strong is he? In Dwayne, we trust.

Yeah, well, most of the shots in the movie are just to try to get those biceps and triceps on screen. It's all tan, it's all oiled up. Hey, but you know what? He's jacked. Like, on that AMRAP mentality, you know how we were talking about that john donahue guy yesterday yeah okay so for everyone coach the coach for everyone who doesn't know who john donahue is just picture uh oh really well i don't want to sound disrespectful but he it's a kind of almost frail looking uh

professory looking guy he just like he he if you're watching the video you'll see who i'm talking about um but john donahue uh he was a guy who was a professor you know before he got into jujitsu um i think he was when he was a bouncer he saw like his bouncing guys like deal with uh other people or you know like oh yeah there he is yeah he saw his like other bouncer friends dealing with um alcohol or people that were drunk with grappling so he got into grappling later in life now as he learned about it henzo gracie said that john would spend 12 to 14 hours in the school every day literally every day because he became obsessed with jujitsu and what does he turn into he doesn't turn into obsessed with jujitsu. And what does he turn into?

He doesn't turn into a premier jujitsu competitor. But what he does turn into is one of the best jujitsu coaches in the world, even though he's not someone who's done grappling from like six or seven years old. But he's literally one of the bestogi Championships, his team, the Donaher Death Squad, brought home apparently the most medals in ADCC history from a single team. That's insane. And that's from somebody who just had a passion for something. He had a background in teaching. He's a professor. He had a background in teaching and uses that way of learning to learn jujitsu and learn how to teach

jujitsu in a more optimal way so he didn't turn into some crazy competitor but he turned into a crazy coach because he had some talents that were developed in another way but he did go all in you know he went all in there so that's just how things work sometimes i know for you like you know being excited about fitness when you're doing programming for people and somebody's like you know my like you know sometimes you spit out information and it's like not working on a person for a particular reason right they communicate with you and now it's like let's say sunday and you have to do programming for that person you're not like oh man like i had to program for this guy's squats stuck and you you know, you're like, this is,

this is really cool. I need to try to figure this out. I wonder if this, you know, I tried this a while back that worked really great, or this worked really great on another client. I'm going to, you know, and you start writing and it's, if you have no control over like your hand or if you're typing it out or whatever, and you're, you're fired up and excited about it. It's so important that people find stuff that they really enjoy, you know, and you hear that kind of all the time. You hear people say it all the time that it won't ever feel like work and stuff like that. But it's not so much that it won't ever feel like work. It's just that you'll be able to have a lot of consistency with it and you'll be able to spend a lot of time doing it because you actually enjoy it.

Yeah. And you'll have the sense of fulfillment like when i worked at my previous job i had none of that and i hated it and then now i come here and i you know take even as silly as like uh i remember it was it was before even trump was the president but i took a picture of mark and i photoshopped donald trump's head on it and i just remember mark being like, oh, we broke the Internet. This got like more likes than any picture I've ever posted. And I just remember being like, whoa, like that's weird.

Like I made an impact, even if it triggered and upset people or whatever. But like I just remember like that would have never happened at my previous job. Like everything goes unnoticed. And then here it's like, oh, wow, I'm actually kind of leaving a little footprint on this planet. Bro, look at Sarma Gannon. you look at the footprint left yeah on that yeah people are coming to that for their resource on what to do or like you know just like how to think about that type of stuff that's crazy yeah i trust me i i yeah it is crazy i never expected that to happen and i think um that's kind of like what drives me

now it's like you know i have some certain goals and then the goals changed and then all of a sudden now it's like oh now that's my goal you know so it's kind of like it like sort of like uh replenishes the uh the motivational tank you know yeah it's uh super motivating to do stuff better you know like um when we had uh we had brian aldrew in and he was showing us some of the overhead presses i think the next day i was in there and i was i was working on it again and he showed me something that he didn't really show us in like his demonstration and it wasn't and the reason he didn't show it is because it wasn't anything technical it was just like a mindset he He's like, dude, you got to go.

Sorry. I'll explode the whole desk. He's like, I broke my pen. You broke your pen. He's like, dude, you got to like, you know, when it's time to go, he's like, you got to go. Yeah. I was like, oh, okay.

I'm being a pussy. You know what I mean? And so he just meant like you only have so much time because you're trying to hold your air and it's hard to press the weight up overhead if you don't have your air. And if you lose your air during during the set it's kind of hard to regain it you're only going to be able to regain it with your arms kind of up over your head it's easier to breathe in that position and you start to deflate and you start to kind of lose your core but the whole point is is that when you take on a mindset of trying to go in deep on something and trying to like just be better at something than you were yesterday, it's actually really exciting.

It's actually really fun. I mean you can apply – you can be as crazy as you want to be with this stuff and you can apply it to all kinds of stuff. I remember one time I hung out with Dave Tate, the owner of EliteFTS.com. And he like – every time we went somewhere somewhere he like flew out of the car and this is a guy who's like he's been powerlifting for years like he's kind of in kind of in a bunch of pain you know and i was like why do you like i mean you're like he i was getting out of the car and he's like around the block you know what i mean and i asked him i was like why do you do that he's like because because i don't want to waste any time doing stuff. And he's like, so I built up this mindset. Like when I get somewhere,

I want to get there. And then I want to get back to whatever it is I was doing. And, but you, the point is you can take that mindset and apply that to just about anything. You could figure out like, where am I fucking around? Where am I losing time? Where, you know, how can I be a more optimal? How can I be more optimal? How can I push a little bit harder? And with the AMRAP mentality, it's as many reps as possible. And if you look at some CrossFit workouts, these people are, I mean, it's really rare to see it in bodybuilding and in powerlifting, although I've seen it before, for people to

hit the ground. I mean, CrossFit, that's an average day in CrossFit. You're on the ground, your arms are up over your head, and you're just like dying. You're making like the sweat angel that they always talk about. And that's some of the stuff that you're trying to do in your day-to-day. You don't maybe have to go quite that hard, but just imagine you're at 90, 95 most of the time, because it might be hard if you're going a hundred, going a hundred on

everything all the time, you're, you're going to be, you're going to be wiped out, you know? But what if you just cranked everything up just 3%, 5% more than you're doing now? Yeah. I hate getting to that point where you're just dying we kind of went there yesterday to that point where i'm not recovering anymore it's i'm still dying i'm still not recovering but yeah implement that in your everyday business life and it's you will be able to push a little bit further i fucked up this pen guys don't let me man don't let me hulk smash the table anymore that was my last pin i had as loners too oh it's like all jacked up like the top came off and the spring the springs out

you're done a spring shot out of it you're totally done and i don't know what's going on anymore but if you you know if you're listening and you honestly let's just say that right now um you're like i don't have anything i have that passion for, then yeah, go out, like self-authoring, find things, figure it out. Because when you do find something that you really do like, then even if you don't know much about it right now, the learning experience is going to be enjoyable. Like it'll take a while because you have to get good and you have to learn something. Like sometimes you can't just go out and do something because you don't know much about it but once you figure out what that thing is you you will you will put in the time to work and learn at it and it won't be as hard as it is you

know sitting in school trying to read about algebra it won't feel like that because now you have a vigor towards it so just remember like it's it's not always going to be there initially you'll have to learn at it you'll have to get good but it a lot a lot of that process isn't going to feel like it's not going to feel like school for some of us and you might hate school but you're going to have to be educated you know like you're there's just not i apologize in advance there's not a way around it you need to be educated on something whether it's that i mean that could just be that you're you know really really awesome at basketball like that could be your education that's fine but you better be really really skilled at whatever it is

you're doing and you better learn a ton about it regardless of how much you like i didn't really like school but i spent um from pretty much the last pretty much the last about 15 years or so, really diving in deep and really trying to learn, maybe even a little bit longer, probably almost like 20 years, really diving in deep and learning all kinds of stuff. Some of it started out with training stuff, and then it kind of evolved into over the last about five years, shifted over into more personal development stuff

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And so I answered a handful of questions, but I got so much feedback from that that I'm going to have to make multiple videos just by answering questions. And one of the questions was like what do you regret and my regret was i didn't lean on people that follow me on instagram i ended up making youtube videos for the masses of people which was like tons of haters and stuff and i wish i didn't go that route i wish i just like focused on the people that actually cared and so that's what i'm going to be doing with my ig tv now is like yeah answering like hanging out with like the people that actually care so that's at i am andrew like, yeah, answering and like hanging out with like the people that actually care. So that's at I am Andrew Z and yeah, reach out and hit me up with some more questions.

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