Mark Bell's Power Project - EP. 287 - Sling Shot Record Breakers Recap

Episode Date: November 15, 2019

Today we are recapping the Sling Shot Record Breakers Meet at CSA Gym. Did Cailer miss the World Record Deadlift?? We get into it on this episode. Subscribe to the Podcast on on Platforms! ➢https://lnk.to/PowerProjectPodcast Visit our sponsors: ➢Piedmontese Beef: https://www.piedmontese.com/ Use Code "POWERPROJECT" at checkout for 25% off your order plus FREE 2-Day Shipping on orders of $99 ➢Perfect Keto: http://perfectketo.com/powerproject Use Code "POWERPROJECT" at checkout for 15% off your order! ➢Quest Nutrition: https://www.questnutrition.com/ Use code "MARKSQUEST" at checkout for 20% of your order! ➢SHOP NOW: https://markbellslingshot.com/ Enter Discount code, "POWERPROJECT" at checkout and receive 15% off all Sling Shots FOLLOW Mark Bell ➢ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/marksmellybell ➢ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/MarkBellSuperTraining ➢ Twitter: https://twitter.com/marksmellybell ➢ Snapchat: marksmellybell Follow The Power Project Podcast ➢ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/MarkBellsPowerProject Follow Nsima Inyang ➢ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/nsimainyang/  Podcast Produced by Andrew Zaragoza ➢ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/iamandrewz

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because it takes almost two weeks for your body to actually start to produce ketones. Ketones is a, it's a fractionated fat. When you start to consume large amounts of fat in the absence of carbohydrates, your body will start to produce ketones. Some people believe that ketones are a preferred source of energy, especially for like your brain. So a lot of people say, oh man, I'm on like this keto high or I've gone on a ketogenic diet and I have a ton of clarity because of the ketones. But for me right now, like I haven't been on an actual ketogenic diet in a long time. I do eat very low carb, but I still have room for fruit. I still have room for dairy. And so therefore I supplement with perfect keto. I utilize their ketones and they have aflavored one, a salted caramel one.

But my favorite one is the coffee-flavored one. I actually throw that in my morning coffee, which I think would be something to be great for you to try because you do a lot of fasting, right? Yeah, no, I'm definitely really excited to try that in the morning when I'm fasting because I fast for most of my day. And since I'm pretty low-carb, there is a period where I think I do hit ketosis. So it'd be really, really cool to get that in in my fasting period. Yeah, we got to test your ketones too. To see what you're running on over here.

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I know that you got to really tighten up and restrict a lot of the foods that you're eating, but were you able to make room for certain treats here and there? Yeah. So like first off off the quest bars and pretty much all of those stuff were great because I didn't have much fat to work with and I needed to get into a good amount of fiber because fiber fills you up. So the cool thing about quest bars is that, you know, me, I, when I have something like this, I, I like to eat a lot of it, but because the quest bars had like 18 to 22 grams per fiber of fiber per bar, it's really, really hard to eat like five. You know what I

mean? And most I could usually do was like two. I couldn't really push it more than that, but they fill you up, you know, because the amount of fiber, I don't really know any other bars that have that amount. I know for myself, for some reason, after I have dinner, I always want to finish off the night with something sweet. So Quest Bar, you know, fit into my diet really perfectly. What do you got over there, Andrewrew an exclusive deal for our listeners if you guys are listening right now this deals for you for any of the quest bars and quest cookies the protein chips and so much more at quest nutrition.com head over there enter promo code mark's quest for 20 off your entire order at quest nutrition.com oh we're live now man i would love to spar with jocko willing because i see this picture

and he just looks just like such a scary human being damn why would you want to spar with him because he seems like such a badass and he's a black belt and he's strong he's apparently 240 pounds i think he's like that's what i heard and he's like what six foot or 5 11 that's a big man foot or 5'11 that's a big man military like he would break me he'd be he'd be a tough guy to

tough guy to tap out I'm sure for sure no stranger to pain yeah I got nothing I got nothing over here anyway oh now something came through Yeah, I got nothing. I got nothing over here. Anyway, oh, now something came through. Oh, now I clicked the wrong button.

Oh, I got wrong button problems. Why did I see like a butt pop up on your screen? What is that, Mark? A butt? Did you see a butt pop up? We have been doing a lot of posing lately. I don't know what that was. Oh, my goodness. No, I actually hit, I don't know. don't know i was joking i didn't see a butt

i think i hit the i think i hit the butt button wait that's the new feature of the new iphone you sent me a link to uh the podcast that we're doing now yes Yes. How am I supposed to watch that? I don't know, man. Shit. Technology. It's tough. Technology. Remove link. I guess so.

Alright. Oh my god. This is like watching me struggle with the fucking internet. It's like watching somebody play a video game that keeps dying, and you're like, just give me the goddamn controller. Just let me fucking jump Mario over that goddamn fire.

I know how to do it right. You suck at this. So frustrating, right? That game's hard. You ever gone back and try to play it? No, yeah. Well, yeah, the original Mario. Yeah.

When he's like Donkey Kong, I guess you would say. Like, that was really hard. Ah, whoops, I turned it the other way. All right, there we go. Oh, and Seema's hitting the wrong button over here. There we go. There we go. Okay, cool.

Any goddamn way. There we go. There we go. Okay, cool. Any goddamn way. The Backyard Meet of the Century, I was going to say, but I guess it's the extension of the Backyard Meet of the Century, which is the meet that went down at Combat Sports Academy. We just had Kieran Fitzgibbons and Jessica Fitzgibbons on the show.

They're the owners of CSA, and that's where Slingshot Record Breakers went down. Kieran Fitzgibbons and Jessica Fitzgibbons on the show. They're the owners of CSA. And that's where Slingshot Record Breakers went down. And a bunch of records got broke. A bunch of records got broken. A bunch of records got smashed. And, you know, people always get pissy, you know, when they watch these things back on YouTube. But we'll get to that in a moment.

But man, the meet was great. A lot of awesome energy. What I like about what this contest has evolved into, this kind of started out as Jesse Burdick and I talking about getting some of the biggest badasses together. And back years ago, we had Reebok sponsor it, and we're like, no, we'll just use a bunch of Reebok's money, and it'll be a lot of fun, and we'll get the best.

We'll get to hang out with the best lifters in the world. We'll fly people out and so on, and we'll put thousands of dollars at stake, and a lot of the best lifters in the world will come out of the woodwork to lift there. And Jesse and I personally invited a lot of the best lifters in the world to come lift at this event. But what we recognized was that even though it was great to have the best lifters in the world there, we quickly recognized that that's not really what it's about. That's not really what powerlifting is about. And we recognize that so many up and coming lifters and so many lifters that were kind of novice lifters loved sharing the platform with some of these professional lifters, some of these lifters that have been doing it for a long time.

And so over the years, it has become kind of more and more mixed than it has been just a simple showcase of one mutant after another. And this competition, I think, really showcased that quite a bit because there was a bunch of mutants like this guy here we're watching on YouTube, Edward Blair, crushing a 704-pound squat, laying 219. I mean, there was a lot of great performances on this day, but it's not, it's not like, um, it's not like the backyard meet of the century where we had, you know, Eric Lillibridge and one world record holder after another, uh, really kind of fighting for

that top position. This is more like we have, you know, in each, in each, um, in each flight, you know, in each flight is, is, uh, kind flight is kind of represented of the type of weights that people are going to be moving for the day. And there was probably, I don't know, maybe about, I would say, 20 lifters that I would consider to be pro at this meet. Maybe a little bit more out of the 60 lifters. So it was a good mix. It was a good mix of newer lifters and good mix of some professionals that are moving some crazy weights.

And the goal of the meet is to get some records broken, though, right? Absolutely. That's why. Absolutely. You want to see the records broken. And, you know, I think that's part of the reason why a lot of people like to compete in this meet, because not only are they going to see a record broken broken they're going to kind of see it firsthand they're going to get to rub elbows with these people and they're going to see these people in the warm-up room and they're going to like they're lifting on the same platform they're going through the same set of circumstances and here's our boy Jimbo Cooper

with an 830 pound squat but yeah it was just man it's just it's just a great atmosphere it's a lot of fun yeah is it me or does jimbo squat almost like a bodybuilder yeah he yeah his his hips are a little like uh like not really moving back a lot he's not driving the butt way back and um he definitely squats a little bit like a bodybuilder knees go forward first like he's just like more upright because like when i saw him squatting it reminded me of uh oh wow i feel terrible um he was dang it tom platts bodybuilder that was here a while ago i could oh my gosh i think anyway it's reminding me of a bodybuilder that we had on the podcast uh recently it's gonna kill me i'm gonna figure out who it is you know what the in this video you mentioned how like um a lot of people are just overall getting stronger within the powerlifting community like lifts that used to be really impressive like impressive like pulling 700

or one of that everyone's pulling that now i think it's not only because of meets like this where all of these lifters together doing just immense amounts of weight but it's also because like you see it all the time like you see people posting videos that they're you know 800 pound pool 900 pound pool thousand pound pool and it's like it it's just like when the four minute mile was broken and then everyone started running four minute miles i feel like it's going it's it's heading in that direction yeah look at this at this guy, Tyler, you know, with a 959 pound squat. A lot of people don't even know who this guy is. You know, I think you're absolutely right. I think you're seeing more and more big lifts pop up on social media. And then you're

also seeing more big lifts being shared on social media to guys like Eddie Hall that have thousands and thousands or millions, I'm sorry, millions and millions of followers. You're seeing people like that, um, you know, reposting and collaborating with some of the best lifters in the world. I saw him, uh, recently with, uh, the, uh, the guy who broke the all-time world record in, in the, uh, bench press Julius Maddox. And so like that gives the sport a lot of exposure. And then plus you're just seeing people just kind of on the daily just you know posting an 800 pound pull look at this 550 pound bench press right here 219 god it looks so beautiful he did it pretty easy too yeah so fast edward blair yeah that guy was a freak every he just, like, on all of his lifts,

he made it look so fast and easy. Yeah. If you guys are listening and you don't know what we're talking about, there's a video on the Super Training channel that, like, you can legit just turn on right now. It was posted today, and it's part one of the Meet Recap, part one of the Record Breakers Meet Recap, where you can see all these crazy lifts.

I think one of the biggest breakers meet recap where you can see all these crazy lifts i think one of the biggest reasons why you know you've seen such a huge spike with how strong power lifters are i would i would say there's two two main reasons one is the training training has changed quite a bit from when i started used normally used to just like lift you would do the main lift one time a week and you would just go hard that one time a week. And that's all you would do. You would, uh, you know,

bench or you would squat or you would deadlift on a particular day and you would just go nuts on it. And, uh, that would be that. And we utilize progressive overload. And for a few weeks we do sets of 10 and then for a few weeks we'd do sets of 10. And then for a few weeks we'd do sets of eight and so on. And, uh, we'd work our way down to kind of a five sets of five and, uh, work our way downward, uh, more in reps as the contest got closer, we'd cut out assistance

work as the meet got closer and closer. And we just kept making, you know, you just kept making those kind of small changes and you're just hitting those big singles as the contest came around. But nowadays we see a lot of lifters using much higher frequency, and they do what they call spread fatigue. So rather than have the intensity be up on just a one given day a week that you work on your squat, you're now going to squat three times a week, but you're not going to squat three times a week at 90% or 95%. It's probably going to look a little bit more like one day might be 70%. Another day might be 80%. And on another, another, uh, day of the

week, it might be 85%. Yeah. And you might might cycle through that and there's a lot of different ways that people have utilized that but the great thing is about you know utilizing that kind of frequency is it really increases your overall volume for the week your overall volume for the month you're handling a lot more weight in a shorter time span and so therefore over a period of time you get way stronger way faster which if i'm being totally honest i've just thought it was so dumb when people started talking about like people would talk about bench squat and deadlift like in the same day yeah and i'm like what what are you talking about like that's the stupidest thing i've ever heard and then out of nowhere people started getting like crazy crazy strong and i

was like oh maybe i just didn't know that's something that you could do. That's one thing that's cool about it because it's like, I think that when it comes to that, some people can thrive off of high frequency. Um, like I thrive of high frequency when it comes to deadlifting. I, I, my deadlift gets better when I get a little bit higher frequency, but when it comes to other movements, frequency doesn't, I don't like doing it more frequently. And with those, I guess, newer adjustments to training,

I mean, you could do whatever you pretty much, you can figure out more ideas to get stronger. Let's just put it out there. There's more tools that you can use. It's not that I don't think that one is the better. I don't think that more frequency is better than lower frequency type training.

I just think that you now have more options to see what works better for you because wasn't it Ed Cohn that hated high frequency training? Like he, he only what deadlifted once a week or something. Yeah. Yeah. I don't even think. Yeah. And so back to what you said about options, I don't even think he ever explored it. You know, I think he just trained, trained the muscle group once a week. He competed about twice a year and he was pretty dead set in the way that he trained and he used progressive overload. And he, you know, would, after every contest, though, would similar, doesn't really matter

what style of training that you do, you'll find this one common theme amongst the lifters that are smart. All the lifters that are intelligent and that have been around for a while is every single time they get done with a competition, they will let their body rest a little bit and then they'll come back and they'll rebuild and they'll try to do this very simple idea, this concept of rebuilding a bigger base, a rebuilding or not even rebuilding, just building a bigger base,

building a bigger foundation. So now you have a bigger, stronger foundation, and now you can put more weight on that bigger, stronger foundation. It really makes a lot of sense. So when somebody gets done with a competition, they might come down in size a little bit. They might want to be a little healthier, but they're going to move into doing some bodybuilding stuff. They might clean up their diet a little bit because some of these powerlifters are trying to be on the top end of their weight class. And so they might kind of fluff up a little bit and chub out and be a little bloated for the contest. But as soon as the contest is over, they want to feel a little healthy.

They want to feel a little bit better. And most of us have, not most of us, all of us, uh, we still have like a side of us that wants to look better. So it doesn't matter if you're a big, super heavy weight or who you are. Uh, everybody wants to drop a couple LBs and be a little tighter and, um, you know, hammer out some Ronnie Coleman, you know, sets of, uh, rows and stuff like that. Right. So, uh, we, we all get a little bit excited about some bodybuilding stuff. Doug Fruchet. There we go, our boy Doug.

I'm like, I know, I can see the T-shirt that we even made for him. Like, why is his name not coming? Anyway. Yeah, Doug, he shoves the knees forward quite a bit. Yeah, so his squat reminded me a lot of Jimbo Cooper's. They look similar. Yeah, so his squat reminded me a lot of Jimbo Cooper's. They look similar.

Okay, and then the big lift of the meat. Yeah, 953-pound deadlift by our boy, Kaler Woolum. Yeah, there's a little bit of a double pump on that one, and I didn't know what to think of it when I was standing there watching it. But, you know, the rule is that the weight can't come back down. And if you go back and watch that video, I think you can make an argument that the weight did come back down. But, you know, it's not an easy thing to really see. It does, however, look like he may have kind of double pumped the weight a small amount but it's it's just um it's very minimal and and not to make excuses for the judges but to give you an excuse

for the judges all the judges you know we're always fans you know the people that put these meets on the people that are you know jesse burdick runs the meet. Like we're huge fans of lifting and we want to see big lifts and we're not trying to give away a lift. And I wasn't even a judge at this meet. Neither was Jesse. Um, but you know, people get excited and the crowd response to your lift, uh, is a huge factor in there. And so I, I mean, the weight never, the weight didn't come off the ground. And then when that double pump happened, the weight started to come off. This is like one of these weird, like football things. Sometimes you watch football and you're like, how the hell can

all the rules not be, have not have been explored at this point in our life. But, you know, when does the deadlift start? You know, the deadlift starts when the lifter initiates the pull, but I would say it probably really starts when the weights leave the ground. And then the rule is, like, once you start your lift, the weight cannot come back down. And so maybe he wasn't even really, like, is there a rule about how you can start?

I don't know. I'm unaware of it. Yeah, because you see people all the time, they will run up to the bar shake it and it's like dude that bar is going up and down like crazy this is way different because he actually he initiated the the pull i just the way i look at it is like i i can't imagine that that going back down and then up with that much weight with like some of the plates already kind of coming off the ground how much can that help i i don't know maybe i mean i just it's incredible no matter what he did you know what i mean like it was amazing yeah but yeah the uh the old rule book you know like shit it's like i don't think anybody's gonna be like oh he found

a loophole like you have to just do half a deadlift and then go back down and then back at like, it's. You know, in football and football nowadays, they have instant replay. So they're going to like watch everything. They're going to watch everything over and over again. They got these real high speed cameras. They can watch it in super slow motion. They can like capture every angle and look at it, know under this microscope but i remember plays when i was a kid that would happen and i remember the announcers being so pumped they're like just give it to him like just give it to the guy there's that uh i know andrew you'll know this one that famous steve young run against like the minnesota vikings and in that case he clearly like

ends up in the end zone but like there's other cases where somebody just continues to like get away from the defender over and over and over again. And they like, you can't really tell if they made it. You probably are thinking they didn't, but you're just like, I just want them to. And the same thing happens with lifting.

Yeah. The same thing happens. Um, you know, like even Michael Jordan, like we all made up that he dunked from the free throw line, but he didn't. He stepped over. He stepped over it.

But in our head, jump man, like that's from when Michael Jordan dunked from the free throw line. He took a nice, you know, at least a full foot's worth of, like his shoe worth, right, of being ahead of that line a little bit. And so sometimes you just get excited as fans and just want to see the guy get the damn thing passed. Nobody talks about Vince Carter doing the exact same jump with two hands, though.

Jordan reached with one hand, dumped it. Vince Carter was like, oh, check this out, and he just has both hands up. Yeah, Vince Carter was. Oh, really? Yeah. Yeah, Vince Carter was a mutant yeah former sacramento king no i get it yeah he was still a mutant he's in the nba he's the longest guy

that's ever been yeah yeah i still gotta get his damn jersey on the king's uh uniform he's not here anymore though no no yeah but i mean he was awesome when he was here like uh he had opportunities to go like insert whoever was hot that year that we got him and he's like that's not my thing i'm not chasing a ring and he went to the kings when we were really bad and we're still actually probably the worst we've been in a long time but he was dope it was it was so cool to have him in sacramento right vince carter like it was it was incredible yeah yeah and then uh mark can you tell me real quick? Because I just, his picture just came up. What happened here? Oh yeah. Look at that guy.

So he's trying to get out of there with some knee sleeves, huh? Yeah. Oh, he was trying to jack a knee sleeve. Yeah. Well, so what happened was, is I, you know, I went to get some, get some coffee, get fired up for the meet. And when I came back, this guy came up to me and he was kind of frantic and he was like, Hey, he's like, I just had to come and tell you in person. And my brother was with me and my brother was like, like kind of thinking like, what's this about? I was kind of thinking the same thing.

I'm like, this guy's pretty big. Like shit's about to go down. I'm, I'm ready for it. But this dude's pretty big, you know? Cause I, I don't'm ready for it but this dude's pretty big you know because i i don't know i don't know who the fuck's coming at me right and uh he's really really wired and and kind of fired up and super nervous and then he's kind of like almost crying at the same time and uh he's like hey he's like i just had to come to you i had to come do meet. I didn't want to do this meet. I got injured, you know, halfway through the training cycle, but I made myself do the contest even though I wasn't prepared for it.

But I knew that you were going to be here and I had to come to you and I had to tell you this. I had to tell you that I'm the one that stole the knee sleeves from you, you know, about a year ago from your store and I got kicked out of your gym. And I was just like, what? He goes, yeah, I, I, I, that was me. Like, you know, he's like, he's like, I got kicked out and he's like, somebody, you know, somebody saw that I was stealing the knee sleeves. And, and I was like, Oh dude, I'm like i'm like you know uh i think that's amazing that you're telling me and so he went on to say like how much it haunted him and like how how like

bad and good of an experience it really was for all that to happen yeah he's like but i needed to get it off my back i needed to you know come here and tell you face to face. And I just said, Hey, I said, it sounds good. Just gave him a big old hug and said, you know, you're, you're, you're good to go. I'm not worried about it. And then, uh, yeah, he and I just started talking a little while later and, you know, I was telling him, I was like, I think things happen for a reason. And I think that, you know, stealing is a shitty thing to do, but i was like i think things happen for a reason and i think that you know stealing is a shitty thing to do but i was like if we're if we're all gonna actually be honest we all steal you know and we've all stolen from somebody at some point some way

and you always like tell yourself little white lies about it you know you're like oh it's not a big deal you know stealing a pen from work or you know and and maybe sometimes it's not always uh super intentional but uh as a kid you maybe you like borrow your friend's toy or what right right i mean you everyone everyone's doing a little something that they shouldn't be even if it's just like speeding right like it's like you're committing a crime of some sort every fucking day you're rolling through a stop sign or doing something that you shouldn't really be doing. Stealing, though, I think is on a different level.

And when you actually steal something from a store, that's pretty bad. But what I said to him was, I was like, that's probably really good that you got caught and probably good that you got caught the way you did and where you did because he was just super embarrassed about it. He was like, I love lifting. And he's like, he's like, I almost, he goes like, because of that situation, I almost felt like I had to throw all that away. And he just said he went, he went through a lot just from, uh, you know, having that situation happen and everything. And I thought it was great. I thought

it was great that he came up and, you know, I mean, I think it was great that he stole from me, but I thought it was great that he, uh, that he came up and, and, uh, apologize for it. Yeah. When I was, uh, I was telling some of the guys later that night, like that whole thing, cause I think, uh, Chris Bell was kind of mentioning it. And so I like just went in and clarified what was happening. Cause he's like, yeah, I seen this guy come up to Mark. I don't know what was going on. And so I like just went in and clarified what was happening. Cause he's like, yeah, I seen this guy come up to Mark. I don't know what was going on. And so I explained and you know, the guys were like, oh,

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You know, some people are very judgmental online about where the squats were, and they think Jimbo Cooper's squat was, I, I was there for both days. I watched all the squats. Um, I, you know, I don't, you know, I, I'm not, uh, I'm not particularly pumped about, you know, somebody squatting really high and, and, uh, breaking somebody else's record. And then I'm, you know, obviously not pumped to give away a thousand bucks for it either. Right. So, I mean, I thought the squats, I thought most of the squats were really good. I did see two squats where I was like, I don't know what they saw on that one, but they got past. Right. And I think that if, you know,

we're thinking about most powerlifting meets, I mean, what's in question at every powerlifting meet in the history of the world is always squat depth that this is nothing new they've been fighting about this since the inception of powerlifting and no one's really ever tried to do anything about it other than i guess make it even more complicated than it needs to be yeah and then so for the video that we just showed previously you know the the camera angle is low and it doesn't matter how low the squad is if the camera is lower it looks you're looking up so it's going to be higher like it just that's just how it is so when we set this camera up it was uh it was we're we try to get eye level basically so we we did our best to try to like show what it actually looks like in person but

even still on camera like you just you just, you're not, you're not getting a full 360 view of the person, but there were some times where I was just like, like, wow, like, okay, that one passed, you know, like I was, yeah, it just now because I'm more familiar, like previously, like the first one. So it's funny every, every time, you know, record breakers comes around, like I get the notifications on my phone phone like on this day a year ago and you know i posted a picture of in sema like it was i didn't even know him and i'm taking pictures of him at the first record breakers i

went to um but back then i had no idea what like depth even was you know and now that i can see it and i can like okay like all right i get what you guys are saying on some of these, but not all of them, nowhere near as many as like the internet would, would have you think. Yeah. And our boy Rob Flett was there too. He's super strong. Oh my God. He's big. Yeah. He's a big, big boy. Yeah. That was somebody that I ended up, uh, meeting, uh, overseas. And, uh, I think I've shared the story before on the podcast, but, um, it was great having him over here. Great having him at super training gym. And then to see the performance that he put on, um, he shared a bunch of stuff with me, uh, on our, on our drive up there. And,

um, and that kid has, uh, he's overcome a lot. You know, we talk about lift, lift through it quite a bit. He's somebody that, um, ran into some drug problems and ran into some issues early on in his life. And he's, you know, filled in those gaps with lifting. And I think, um, he's a great, great example of like, you know, here's a guy that, uh, you know, didn't think much of himself, didn't have a lot of confidence. And now here he is, you know, squatting, you know, what he squats around 600, 600 something pounds. I think he deadlifted mid sixes and benched, uh, mid fours.

This is his first powerlifting meet. So his numbers are not, you know, off the charts and they're not still great numbers. Yeah. They're not huge, uh, for his, uh, weight class, I guess you'd say, but he's somebody that, I mean, if he continues, it continues on the path that he's on, he's going to really be moving around some, really moving around some crazy weights. Anyway, I love fucking powerlifting. I love going to these meets. I love seeing all these lifters. I, you know, the acceleration of how quickly, of how quickly these people have gotten stronger. It still blows my mind. Every time I go to a meet, I'm always like, man, how is it?

Every year people are just lived in more and more and there's more names and there's more people where you're like, wait, who's this guy again? You're like, which guy is this? And then sometimes there's somebody who's been doing it for a while that comes into that. You're like, which guy is this? And then sometimes there's somebody who's been doing it for a while that comes in too. Then you're like, oh, I kind of forgot that he's still doing it. Like Andrew Herbert. Like, not that I forgot that Andrew was still lifting, but he's overcome a tremendous amount of injuries. He tore his tricep really bad a couple of years ago.

And that was another thing that was in question. You know, people were like, oh, well, what's the deal with his bench? I, you know, I don't know, you know what, I don't know why the rule isn't like this in powerlifting, but if you can't extend your arm, you can show the judges that your arm is like locked. I don't know if the IPF and USAPL have the same rule, but you can show the judges, look, my arm, like I'm kind of disabled in a way, doesn't move any further than right here. Um, and that's where Andrew Herbert is.

He doesn't have 100% range of motion. And so when he benches, that one side is going to be down. And it's like, I don't know how you judge that. It's going to not look great. But anyway, that guy is an animal. He squatted 942, I think. And then he deadlifted 892, I think think it was high it's yeah 890 something yeah 8 890 and a in a 940 i mean what the what in the world's going on with that guy yeah and as you

mentioned in terms of the sport progressing man just wait a few more years because i've sent you a few of these lists from like a few 16 17 year-year-old kids who were squatting 6 and 700 at 16, 17 years old. Yeah. That like, you know, it all depends if the individual does stay with the sport. It's insane. But if they stay with the sport, my God. Yeah. I mean, it's nuts.

You know, one time I got, sliding into the DMMS, I got a message from a kid and he said, Hey, you know, what do you think of my deadlift? And this kid's really super skinny. And, uh, it was just like a seven Oh five deadlift. And I watched it and I was like, Oh my God. I was like, well, what do I think? I think it looks awesome. Like I was great. And I had a little bit of advice. I was like, Oh, you're was great and i had a little bit of advice i was like oh you're maybe like over the bar a little bit but it's like 700 pounds and you look like you don't have any muscle you know i didn't say that to him but he just looked really real thin you know yeah and uh he's like all right cool thanks and then he sent me like this program that he was trying

he's like hey you think i should do this and i took a look at it and it included um dead lifting twice a week and stuff like that i said yeah i said that that looks good like it looked like well thought out plan and i didn't want to i want to just encourage him you know that's usually what i do i'm not gonna like sit here and try to nitpick somebody and i was like yeah it looks pretty cool and then it was like just a few weeks later sent me another video. He's like, here I am, you know, trying 755. And then he hit 755. And then I now, and I was like, well, that looked even a lot better than the 705. I mean, your form is better and you're lifting more weight.

It wasn't too long after that. I get another video. He's like, I hit 800 on my whatever birthday, 19th birthday. He hit 804 deadlift, right? Oh, my God. And that guy was Kaler Woolham. Oh, really? Yeah.

Oh, shit. Yeah. Yeah, I was like, oh, shit looks pretty good. It's funny because I tease him all the time about getting bigger. I'm always like, dude, you need to get bigger. You need to get bigger. You need to get bigger. It's really hard to pull 1,000 know if you're not a certain body weight you know man and when i saw him at this meet i mean he he looks pretty pretty goddamn

jacked his back is he's like he has this like still has room taper he still has a lot of room though to get bigger because he's still not heavy but he only weighed 219 or something i think right oh my god really yeah he always wasn't 240 something no no i i think the uh the um the projector had it wrong but i know that i heard uh i think jesse burdick say like like oh this you know damn it he came in at 215 and like that's a thing that he does he always like whatever weight class he is he's like oh shit i'm underweight again oh well like oh my gosh dude like yeah and then when mark was telling that story i was just like oh man that's crazy someone else and like oh those numbers okay it is kaylor yeah and he did you know he did his 953 deadlift beltless and it's like just i mean maybe

that's a preference for him. Maybe he's not exponentially that much stronger with a belt. Maybe he's not stronger at all with a belt. It's probably why he doesn't wear one. But the guy does a great job of getting in a good, strong position, and it's just amazing to see he continues to get stronger and stronger. And one of the things of advice he had for everybody out there that does deadlift sumo,

he was like, pull conventional in your training. Do a lot of conventional pulling. I know that you pull sumo in competition, and you're a big proponent of bent over rows, and he is as well. You guys have kind of two different styles. Yours is more strict. His is more like just kind of do them whatever way, whatever way you can, but just even the act of having your feet close together and moving around a barbell, whether you're deadlifting it or whether you're rowing it, um, is probably

super beneficial just to train the lower back, right? Yeah. It'll address a lot of weaknesses that you may have with your sumo, but I think honestly, like it's even more powerful for conventional pullers to pull sumo because like what i've seen is that like when a conventional puller pulls sumo it's easier to cheat in the conventional deadlift than it is in sumo and sumo you have to take all the slack out of the bar you have to use your hips the bar is not going to move fast off of the ground with conventional you can just kind of you know if you have a strong back you can kind of rip it off the ground but whenever conventional pullers lift sumo it seems that like whenever they go back to conventional, boom, it's gained strength even without working it.

So it works the same for sumo pullers too, but I think there's a lot of little things that good sumo pullers do that some conventional pullers don't. Yeah, and I think I agree with you there, and you don't really see that that much. You don't really see closed-stand squatters trying to squat wider. don't really see close stance squatters trying to squat wider. You don't really see, uh, conventional deadlifters, um, trying to go out and mess around with a sumo deadlift. And a lot of them will say, oh, I can't sumo deadlift because it like kind of hurts. And it's like, well, that's probably a good indication that you should be working on it. Cause like your hips shouldn't be, shouldn't be that messed up. Like that you should be able to open up your hips and you don't really need to be able to lift a

crazy amount of weight, but you should be proficient at it and you should, you should work on it. Think about this. Like if something's only, let's say you have one lift, it's at like 600 pounds, right? Let's say your deadlift is at 600 pounds conventional. And then you go to do a sumo pull and you're only at like 300 pounds. Where do you think you have more room for improvement? You think you're going to be able to improve a lot to, to go from 600 to 633? Or do you think

it sounds a little bit easier to go from 315 to like 365? Yeah. You know, that sumo pull, uh, will be easier to increase in strength because you are just not very good at it at the moment. So yes, it will take a little time to adjust to it but when you do get better that might show up somewhere else that might show up in your squat it might show up just an increase in size because you have a new stimulus and it could also just show up in your conventional pull did you ever have the experience of because you were a conventional puller initially correct did you have the experience of switching to sumo and feeling the burning sensation in your hips for months or weeks? Did that happen to you?

Yeah, it took a while. It took a while to get used to it, especially in the very beginning. I can remember back, I had to think back a little bit. But yeah,, I was brought up in powerlifting with like just old school stuff. Five sets of five single ply powerlifting gear was just like, it was, it was the uniform. Like you guys have, they have singlets now. They had single ply squat suits then. Like that's just what you, there was no raw powerlifting. And so I was kind of brought into it in a very old school way. You just, all you need is a belt and a squat suit and you can pretty much go from there.

And, uh, it was closer stance squats. It was a conventional pull. And, um, you know, that's, that's what we had. That's what we did. But yeah, as soon as you went to open up your, you know, open up your legs and force your feet out wider, you were like, you're like, oh my God, I think I'm going to die. My whole body's going to split in half. That was like, first off, that's not just only something

that I felt when I switched to sumo from conventional, but a lot of other individuals that were conventional pullers that I had pull sumo for a little bit, a majority of them are like, oh my God, my hip flexors, they're burning. Because that's literally what I felt. My hip flexors were burning. It's like, I couldn't recover after a few, like, I think for me, it took a few months, then it went away. And then the sumo just like

started to get stronger. But that's one thing where I, that's one place where I think a lot of conventional poolers like say, oh, sumo is not for me because they feel that there's an adaptation period for that. You'll get used to that and then seriously it really will transfer over well to the conventional pool it makes it it makes a huge difference yeah you know andrew's been on this mission to get uh get some abs for christmas and so uh we've been we've been pushing on him we've been leaning on him you know i gave him a speech the other day got him all fired up and uh just making sure just making sure that he doesn't you know look back at it and be like oh you know what i probably could have done i probably you know i probably could have done a lot better you know i want him

at the end to be like you know what i i put just about everything i got you can always you know there's always room for improvement right but it's just about everything i had in You can always, you know, there's always room for improvement, right? But it's just about everything I had in this. And I'm, I, I'm excited about it because that's, that's where you're going to be excited about, you know, you're not necessarily, uh, you know, going to be just completely overwhelmed with like where you got to or whatever, but you'll be the most pumped about just the effort. You'll be like, I put that effort in every day for, you know, weeks on end. And that's what you'll be like i put that effort in every day for you know weeks on end and that's what you'll be the most excited about i was i was so excited so i i text mark because he had mentioned the day maybe it was yesterday it was all in the text thread but he's like hey like you know

training 5 a.m tomorrow and okay i'm supposed to hit the step mill either thursday or friday we usually train fridays regardless so i'm like okay am i going'm supposed to hit the step mill either Thursday or Friday. We usually train Fridays regardless. So I'm like, okay, am I going to do one day or the other? Or am I going to do both? Because then I have the weekend coming up also where I do Saturday, Sunday step mill before coming here to train. So I just like, hey, like what day? And he's like, ah, just go ahead and do it tomorrow. I'm like, okay, cool.

I got up at 12, like 20, jumped out of bed, 12, 12, 20 AM. So I went to bed like around, I went to bed late, but I went to bed around nine and I got up at midnight, jumped out of bed. I seen that it was, you know, two 20 or whatever it was. 12, 20 or two 20? 12, 20 thinking it was two 20. Okay. So I'm like, you know, I got to gotta get up anyway so i might as well just go i i got up i like i started putting my clothes on and then i looked at the clock again i'm like

oh i still have two hours weird shit happens in the middle of night i've done that before a bunch of times too yeah so then i like well i can't go now like okay well i have a couple hours of sleep i'm gonna go back to bed i got up and it and it was, you know, 2 something, and I just, like, you know what? I'm getting up now. Looked over, and, yeah, my alarm clock went off at 2.45, but I had, like, I was so pumped up to just go to the, you know, go jump on the step mill. It just, something's happening, dude, and it's freaking amazing.

And just, yeah, and gonna i'm gonna get tired today for sure like i didn't get much sleep and i've been so i had been training from like 3 30 till 7 a.m like today it's pretty amazing like yeah you did the step mill you then worked out with mark yeah so so step mill uh you know time uh commuting and then we walked for like half an hour and then we trained for whatever long and then we walked again and yeah i just look up at the clock and it's like oh shit like we got a lot in but i have been moving for a while already you know uh talk about yeah that that was a full effort. And some of that, like, is, you know, some of that is, you know, you can look at that and be like, oh my God, like we're getting into

like some overtraining. Right. But some of it's just intentional just to make sure that that habit is there. You know, sometimes you got to go like a little nutso, make sure the habits there, make sure we're going to get on the step mill, make sure you're feeling comfortable with it. And then of course, you know, you can always, like I had a lot of communication with Honey Rambod throughout the bodybuilding show and stuff. And, um, you know, he would check in on me and, and I was usually doing okay. I mean, everything was, everything was, uh, I'm trying to think if there was a time where I was really like wiped out or anything.

I think at one point I just told him, I was like, I'm just feeling kind of skinny. You know, like I feel like I, I can do whatever you want me to do, but you know, I, it's, it's up, it's up to you. You asked me how I felt. I just said, I was just feeling skinny. So then he gave me like a cheat meal or whatever. And that was about it. But, um, yeah, communication communication just like letting us know how

you're feeling and and all that will be uh really important but yeah trying to ingrain that you know that cardio in in the beginning is a real bitch otherwise i would just say you can do it whenever you want have you ever done cardio this much in the past uh so when i was talking to mark about it i i've i've always incorporated it somewhere but i never did it um like smart right like i i i know like oh i gotta warm up that's what people do they jump on the treadmill before they hit the weights like that's just what i thought people did yeah and then um on leg days i would always end with the step mill um but for like 15 minutes or whatever and i'm you know i'm always looking at the clock because at the time i had to like actually clock in for work so how long are you doing it now by the way

uh mark asked well he told me to do 20 minutes just because i know that's what honey had him do it's like i know it's going to be more eventually so i'm i'm overshooting right now so i've been doing 30 minutes every time i touch the step mill. The first time wasn't on purpose. It was just like the step mill stopped at 20 minutes. I'm like, hey, I'm not done. Keep going. And then I looked up and I'm like, oh, okay, I probably should stop. And then today it was just like I'm going to go until 4 a.m.

And that just happened to be right exactly at 30 minutes. But previously, yeah, like I didn't do it smart i just did it just to move around and there wasn't a purpose for it you just do it for like warm up and stuff like that for a warm up and because i thought that's what you're supposed to do now that there is a purpose like i'm leaving you know my my hoodie on i'm leaving my beanie on and i'm like when i get off of it, yeah, I'm sweating pretty good. And it feels awesome because the commute here is like, okay, whatever happens at the gym, I'm warmed up, ready to go now.

That was really cool. And then Mark, he had me drink a protein shake if I'm going to have these higher volume days where I normally wouldn't. And I mean, that was probably the best protein shake I've ever had in my life. Yeah. You know, it was amazing having a shake that early in the morning when I normally wouldn't be having anything. That was also really weird, you know, having a little like, oh, what's this? My God, this is so good.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So eventually I know the step mill is going to, it's going to longer durations are not going to be as fun, but like Mark said, you know, just, it's just, it's, uh, ingraining these habits into my daily right now. So that way it's not such a big chore later. It might increase, but it might not, you know, because you, you know, it might even decrease. I might even tell you to back off, you know, because we just need to see, just continue, you know, see what you look like. You know, on a kind of a, you know, every other day basis, kind of see what you look like. And then, but not every other day for right now, but as you get closer, you know, as you get closer to that day, the more we know, the more we can help. Yeah.

Another thing that's actually starting to happen is like now that I am showing some definition and I'm just like I'm really pumped up about it. When I see like on Instagram or something, I see somebody else with abs like, huh, I thought they had more like more like definition. I thought they had bigger abs or something. It's like I feel like maybe because I'm had bigger abs or something it's like i feel like maybe because i'm getting closer to it and it doesn't seem like it's so far out of reach it's like like oh it isn't a unicorn like it's just uh yeah it's a it's a thing about two weeks from now you're going to be totally disgusted with a lot of people too it's a weird it's a weird fucking thing did that happen to you and se Seema feels like that every day when he looks at the human race.

It didn't happen to you? That doesn't happen to me, no. I think that everyone's on their own journey. Everyone's doing their best. When you're bodybuilding, you're just like, these people are fucking disgusting pigs. Yo, bro, no. It's bad.

You feel like a bad wrestler feel like a bad wrestler like a heel wrestler like oh yeah come out and give a give him a promo on everybody about how fat they are and how you know you're gonna fat shame them to death or whatever it's crazy i don't know why like your mind just goes in that i'm gonna be super vague because i don't know if this person's listening but a friend of mine i'm helping out her dad and her dad lost like uh I think like 20 pounds so far right and the mom is like not losing that much as fast as the dad but like she's like he's walking around the house and looking at himself in the mirror and he's starting to be all like he's starting to like you know check himself out getting hella confident she's like I don't like this he's getting too

that's great that That's awesome. Oh, my God. Yeah, I'm definitely taking, and this is because, you know, I'm filming more stuff and whatnot, but, like, I'm taking way more, like, pictures of myself. Yeah. At first, I'm like, ah, this is so shallow. Like, I don't like this. And then now I'm like, okay, I'm going to, like, favorite this on my, you know, camera reel,

so that way I can look at the other ones I favorited and scroll like, ah, like, okay. Yeah. That does look a little bit better. Like sick. Oh man. It's a great, it's, it's honestly like, that's why it's, it's so awesome when you're making a transformation for yourself because you, you're becoming a more confident individual, even though like, yeah, your body's changing, but other aspects of yourself are changing.

That's why you just said, I don't know what's going on right now but things are happening yeah and you're you're transforming into a different andrew yeah and i'm loving the workouts right now like today today was was pretty brutal uh but i mean dude like it just we did shoulders by the way sorry and i mean we totally torched our shoulders we're're getting jacked and tanned is what we're doing. Yeah. It's amazing. Yeah. It's great. But, like, the way we did it today was, like, we don't even need the sun. Like, everything's on fire.

It's just going to cook, and we're just going to naturally tan, you know? Good for you guys. I hope your tan goes well. I hope you guys are able to achieve it. We'll never be able to catch up to you, I don't think. Doubt it. No. But you guys can get pretty.

Maybe with a spray tan? Do the spray tan that you did for your show. You'll be right there. Oh, God. I was like orange for this show. That was crazy. And it got all over everything. That was terrible.

And it was like if you touch almost like an old donut, like the frosting on the top. Oh, yeah. It doesn't wipe off, but you're like, hmm, I feel a little little feel something yeah it's all over everything all the time yeah did you have to use any tanner yeah i did i use something called dream tan actually for my shows and dream tan isn't just like your typical spray tan it's this tan that's like it's in a thing and you take it and you have to like pat it in and you can't touch anything because anywhere you walk dream tan will get on it but it's literally like the best tan for bodybuilding. If you're going to do a show, you want to apply DreamTan because it just makes everything look even and well.

It's not like spray tans where when you start to sweat, you start to look all drippy and nah. DreamTan stays. That's probably the shit I use. I don't remember. But I do know that like if I touched a wall or something, it was like on the wall. Man, it was a it was a weird experience having to uh help okay so when i was um doing my show i was with my boy vernon and vernon's also really like really dope natural bodybuilder i think his instagram is v will

something if you guys want to check him out but when we were applying dream tan i was like wait how are we gonna apply this how are we gonna apply this because like like, wait, how are we going to apply this? How are we going to apply this? Because like it's, you know, we had to put socks over our dicks. And then we just pat each other down and applied the DreamTan before the show. It was a very awkward experience, but he's my bro. That's why it's called DreamTan because it makes dreams come true. It makes dreams come true. Oh, my God.

So, Andrew, you got another gym membership too, right? Yeah. So I mentioned on the previous podcast like i tried to make well i didn't try like the um the gym owner was making a deal for me because i like hey dude like i i have this one specific goal um and i i just need that step mill till the end of the year i was like and that's that's it. Like, I'm not going to pretend that like, Oh, you guys might keep me around. You know, he's just like,

Hmm. All right. Well, how's this 50 bucks, 24 hour access till January 1st. I'm like sold. And then I'm like, can I get two of those though?

And he starts laughing. I'm like, yeah, I need one for my girl, you know? And so he said, yeah, but,

uh, it's a, it's a small gym. It's a, it's got 24 hour, 24 hour access, which is huge. And in comparison to like 24-hour, the gym themselves, you know, that chain, it's like, I mean, there's no way I'd be able to get that price. You know what I mean?

Of course not. It's got everything that a normal gym would need, you know, squat rack, one or two of them uh flat bench an incline bench decline bench and then a rack of weights uh along with some other uh machines that we don't have here which i i might you know start like wandering off of the step mill and kind of head over there and uh the one that they have it's like the uh you hold the handles and then you just raise your shoulder oh yeah my shit's sore right now but i love that machine machine lateral raise is amazing yeah they got that uh they got the seated calf raise but it's cool man because it's a it's a completely different environment

um i honestly thought i would never go back to that gym because i did go to that gym before i came here and then after experiencing working out with the team, working out with Mark, you know, not having headphones and being on a team is so different than what it was in the past. You know, like that, that meme empty gym equals a happy gym or whatever it is, you know, that used to be me. I would, I would hate it when people were in the gym, like, ah, like here we go again. Like, man, hopefully they're not doing the same thing I'm doing. Or if I'm'm benching i would switch my workout because somebody else was on there super set bro yeah like yes i'm still on that no you can't work in damn you were a dick

no i would never say that i wanted to say that stuff you know like i have a pump going bro yeah but like i was so quiet like nobody would even approach me anyways. Yeah. But yeah, it is. It's a different experience for damn sure. You know, it's a little weird, but I just I like being so focused on knowing that like, hey, I'm just going to go hop up on that step mill. And then when I'm done, I'm out. Like, you know, it's really cool.

And then but when I go, there's nobody working. So I don't have to like i don't know say hi to anybody i just go and get to work yeah yeah it made a huge difference in my bodybuilding show you know going from here going to gold's gym in venice and training with uh o'hearn obviously like just mike is going to kind of amp things up a little bit but there was many trainings many training sessions where we didn't uh weren't able to uh link up and just having access to different machines um really just changed changed things for me quite a bit and just it changes your perspective on the way that you train and the way that you see other people train

because sometimes you're watching people train in the gym and you're like what is that guy doing like why is that guy starting out with cable crossovers like shouldn't he you know start out with a compound movement or but like just sometimes people just have different goals uh how about sorry i don't mean to cut you off but how about the guy when we were training at the other gym in davis when he's he's talking to this chick for at least 15 minutes and then she's like oh well what's your goals and you know she said something and she's like how about yours i just want to look like captain america and mark's like, oh, well, what's your goals? And, you know, she said something. And she's like, how about yours? I just want to look like Captain America. And Mark's like, you're not going to look like Captain America talking for over an hour, you piece of shit. It was so funny because it was just, you know, in Mark fashion just came right like just right off the top of the head.

Perfect timing, punchline. Everything was just perfect. And I was just like, he didn't hear it, right? No, no, no, no. Of course not. We were just messing around. But yeah, yeah, I'm totally messing around. punch line everything was just perfect and i'm just like he didn't hear it right no no of course not we were just messing around but yeah yeah i'm totally messing around but it was just funny because yeah it was true like dude like you've been talking for a long time you're not really gonna get where you're trying to go yeah no i totally agree i think yeah in terms of different

gyms i think it's really important though, because like, for example, that machine you just mentioned that, um, the seated lateral shoulder raise, what do you think about the, the reason why you love it is because when you're doing a normal dumbbell lateral raise, first off, it's very difficult to have to control the seated lateral raise has that same range of motion and you can load that way heavier than you can load with dumbbells. So that's why you feel such a better pump. That's why bodybuilders love machines because like you can load with dumbbells so that's why you feel such a better pump that's why body builders love machines because like you can hit all these different muscle groups like there's a machine at uh one of the gyms that i go to it's a uh seated hamstring curl machine not a prone it's seated and i feel my hamstring activates so much more in that machine than anything i ever used those are great you can actually like yeah you can literally feel your body raise off the seat

because your hamstrings are like growing because they're flexing, right? Exactly. Yeah. And like, I love that for my hamstrings. Like, so that's why I like, I like getting all these different machines. But I also think that like, there's, there's a guy I know that he's been training in his garage gym for like five years and he hasn't, he's like been making progress, but it's been really slow. I've been trying to tell him, dude go go get a gym membership right now i'm saying it's too far or whatever but get yourself out of there because there's so many other machines that you could start working with

you can get so much different stimulus i i know you can get far with a pair of dumbbells and some or not a pair but a rack of dumbbells and some barbells but you know if you got if you add these into the mix it'll be so it's so different there's so much to gain there well there's so many other exercises that you can do which that is super motivating and then on top of it like maybe you've been stuck in a rut for a while maybe you just are training at a commercial gym or training at a place that just doesn't have that much equipment or you've just been out of place for 12 years and it's like time to just you know try a different place you don't have to like switch gyms or nothing just get another gym membership like if it means that much to you and you feel like you're stuck and you feel like you're not making progress you're unmotivated

try a different place you know and if you're single you're going to be different different people to mingle with right everything? Everything will be different. The culture will be different. Some gyms have like a smoothie bar. Some gyms don't. I mean, there's a lot of different things to, some gyms are loaded with tons of cardio equipment. Some gyms have tons of free weights. Like there's a lot of different options that might be available to you. Yeah. Mark, can you explain, well, I guess you're going to explain why you want me going to another gym, but maybe can you explain that? Like what, what that is, you know, like, uh, taking yourself from your house, out of your house, driving to a gym to focus kind of like on yourself. Yeah. So, you know, if, um, if you're trying to get someone to break some habits and to start to employ some new ones, people always think like the best thing to do is to lower the barrier of entry and to make it like really easy.

And they're like, okay, well, you know, if this person's been really heavy their whole life and they've been battling obesity and I just stick a treadmill in their house, then it's going to get used a lot. But we know that doesn't work that way, right? That's not true. Things in life can't really be just given to you that way. And I feel like the more, like things don't have to be so difficult. And I'm not saying that this works great for everything, but in a lot of cases, this works really well. The more that you have to work for something, uh, the more rewarding it's going to feel because you need to, you know, discipline is really surrounded in a totally different word that people don't really talk about that much. But your discipline is actually a skillset. It's actually a skill like that. It takes,

it takes skill. It's, it's, uh, something that's going to take time. It's going to take practice. And when you have, when you mix time and practice together, you end up with a skill. You will have a skill. You already have a skill to wake up early. You got used to that. Um, now it's a skill to drive your ass to a different location to get yourself on you know just going into your garage I think there's maybe like oh Jasmine wants to do this or my wife wants to do that it's it's probably a little too easy to be like yeah I should spend more time with the family because you should right 100% like that should always be the priority, but, um, getting yourself somewhere else. Now you're isolated. You're away. People can't get ahold of you. Yeah. You have your

phone or whatever, but you got headphones on. It gives you your own space, your own time. And everybody needs that. Whether it's they're going for walks or, I mean, when I was doing cardio, that was a huge thing I missed after the bodybuilding show I was like I don't have that I don't have that same time now after a while starting to get like sickening you know because I was doing 90 minutes a day it was horrible but you know I really enjoyed being able to listen to podcasts and all the time I had to listen to music I just I don't know I learned a lot about myself because I kept feeling like I had to listen to music. I just, I don't know. I learned a lot about myself because I kept feeling like I had to dig deeper and deeper and I felt like there

was nothing left. I'm like, this is fucking stupid. Like there's nothing. I keep trying to dig deeper and there's nothing here. Like I'm fucking tired. I don't want to do it. Like I feel like I don't want to do this anymore, but I know that I have to do it. So I'm just going to keep forcing myself to do it. And I, the only way that I was forcing myself to do it was because I developed a skillset towards it. And because it was kind of difficult. And even, you know, even when I was here, you know, just driving back and forth, uh, to do the stuff here, the diet was so difficult that it made it challenging enough that it got me excited. You know, you want challenges. I think people always think that you want things to be easier and you don't really want things to be easier. You just want to be better. Like you just want

to be more skillful. You don't want to just like, you don't really want stuff to be better. Like you don't want to go to jujitsu and whoop up on everybody just because they got worse. to jujitsu and whoop up on everybody just because they got worse right like you you you want to have earned this skill set where you've gotten to some battles with some people and you battled back and forth and you lost and you won and you lost and back and forth and then finally it's like you're never beating me again dude because i i got your number and i and i got the skill set now and you're not going to ever come close to me again. And that's kind of the similar thing with this, like, you know, drive out of your house. I can go, go to a different location, go get the stuff done. That's where you go and do your

cardio. You know, did you get your cardio done? You'll know because you either left the house or you didn't. Right. Yeah. And when it comes to making things harder, easier, you're not, you're also not saying, okay, when's the gym the most busiest? When is it the most inconvenient for you to go? No, you're saying just get it done before training, whatever that looks like, just, just get it done. Cause yeah, in the morning there's no one there. And then, uh, traffic wise, it should normally take me like anywhere from 15 to 20 minutes to get to the gym. But when I go at 4 a.m., it takes me almost exactly 10 minutes. Because I catch every light and there's nobody there.

It's perfect. Yeah, it's great. Yeah, it's nice there's nobody out on the streets and stuff like that, right? Yeah. This morning, the only person in the gym was somebody leaving because they had been like they got off work and they were training at night so that's how early i got there today yeah it's a little bit harder to make excuses too because like when you do i know some people who have a home gym where you'll go in you'll work out a little bit you'll get kind of tired you'll go back inside and you won't go back in when you have to go to a different setting you need to actually leave that area.

It's harder. Like you can still leave, but just the fact that you're already there makes you not want to quit. Absolutely. The early morning workouts too, I think are a good example of like, anyone can wake up at like seven or eight, you know, but try waking up at three.

Like, fuck, you know, and then to try to do that on a consistent basis is really hard. I mean, part of the, part of the reason for the early morning workouts was just something that I, I I've been working out early since I was a kid. I've been working out early. I used to work out before school when I was in high school. Um, I've been messing around with this for a long time and I, when I was power lifting and I was in the middle of my power lifting career, I didn't work out early in the morning that often just cause my sleep got so compromised. It just wasn't a possibility anymore. But even all through like, you know, all through high school, I lifted in the morning and then even, my 20s when there was no reason.

I didn't have a job or anywhere to be. I just wanted to go to the gym and train early and get it done. Now, I don't necessarily even do it for myself. I do it for the other people that show up at that time because I kind of recognize with the group that I have, at that time because I kind of recognize with the group that I have, everyone's like super bummed and super disappointed when we don't work out that early, even though they fucking hate it. And I don't feel like I need that discipline anymore. I feel like I'm over it. I feel like I could work out at like six or seven and be totally fine and not feel like I need, uh, these life altering, uh, morning workouts, but I, I just recognize I'm

like, I think everybody else does. So I shifted them back and I'm like, we got to just keep them super early because, uh, anything else is just not enough for everybody at the moment. So I'd like everybody to kind of raise their level and I'd like to see everybody make a progress. And I think it's the, I've talked about it many times here on the show, but it's that cascade of disciplines that sets forth everything else. It has nothing to do with the actual hour that we're waking up. It just has to do with the discipline of getting organized enough so that you can wake up at that time and be somewhere on time and then have the rest of your day. That's the key. You can wake up at 4 a.m. once, and that's not a problem. But try doing it four days in a row, five days.

It starts to beat your ass down. And then you have to kind of search within yourself how you're going to be able to continue onward. Something weird happened to our clock. I'm not sure what it is. No, it's just 63 minutes. Oh, no, it's still right there. 63 minutes, 37 seconds. Yeah. I thought it'd fast forward

somehow because that doesn't seem like we've been going that long, but maybe we have. No, we haven't. Yeah, an hour and... Three minutes. Oh, there we go. An hour and four, so maybe I just started it late. This other one's kind of working. Isn't that weird? No, it's gone an hour. It just started at 51 minutes, so it's working.

Yeah, I think it feels like there's a little bit of competition with this new smaller clock so now it's like i'm a i'm a i'm a work well it knows that the return process has started it's leaving yeah sorry buddy see you later yeah all right i think that's all the time we got anybody have anything else to add just i don't think they hate the workouts as much as you're saying by the way no because i feel like if they're there they know no they know they like it yeah the the earliness sometimes is tough because you know we may or may not get the text message like in time for me to like you know put things in motion to make sure that i am planning on waking up that early but now with with cardio happening, that's every day. So it should be a little bit better for me.

Shredded goes is going to be interesting. I can't wait. Shred again. Yeah, you're getting there, buddy. Yeah. How's the body weight? I haven't checked it today, but it's been... So I just quick recap.

Started at 192, quickly lost seven pounds, ended up dropping down to 180, and I've been hanging around 179, 180 every day since. Yeah. If you ain't 180, you ain't a lady. I guess I'm not a lady anymore. Yeah, I think that's how the song goes. Right? That was a great song.

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amazing yeah so i had that with lunch yesterday bad andrew maybe but it was incredible yeah those are really those are surprisingly good because i think everyone that's listening has probably had one of those um those ready to drink you know protein shake things a lot of the times they're they're very underwhelming like they you just kind of chug it down so you can get it out of the way just get your protein in but But this one tastes good. Like, I wanted to enjoy it. When I was done, I was like, oh. Yeah.

Yeah, it's like not, it's not very powerful to get a protein shake and then not drink it, right? Like, no one's ever, like, just dumped it out. Yeah, I was explaining to one of the younger people here about the protein bars in the early days, how terrible they used to be. Oh, my God. Yeah, like the original Metrex bars and stuff like that. I was talking about the gold wrapper power bar. Yeah. Back in the day.

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Birthday cake. That used to be a staple when we'd go to the Arnold. Yeah, the S'mores is damn good. S'mores is the one, though. I haven't had the birthday cake. What was that one I was going nuts about that one day? I was like, they need to inform me when they come out with a new flavor remember that andrew yeah i think it was the it's like double chocolate caramel or something like

that i was like goddamn bruce yeah andrew laughing his ass we need to set an alarm there needs to be a notification on my phone when they when we get new flavors right here and then magically that box disappeared our boy dj posted uh i need to try this because i only have right now 80 20 peat montees but he put 80 20 and mixed it with his 98 too and that just seems like it'd be so good you know just a good mix of the both yeah mixing that peat montees beef like that yeah he's a freak is that even is that legal maybe oh he's in texas there's a lot less likeities. And he's military. Everything's legal.

He's got a, what's it called? You can just flash your badge. Yeah. I forgot what it's called, but that's what he got. I don't know. Privileges? Yeah, we'll just say that. That's what I meant to say.

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