Mark Bell's Power Project - EP. 375 Live From Bodega Bay

Episode Date: April 24, 2020

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Oh yeah, I hit the right button. I think I hit the button. We're out here in Bodega Bay. Bodega Bay. And we are live. That sounded weird. That was creepy. Sorry.
Starting point is 00:00:11 That was cool. That was cool. I thought it was great. Bodega Bay. Bodega Bay. NorCal. Should just do a lot of heavy breathing on the mind. Heavy breathing and chewing.
Starting point is 00:00:22 People love that. Yeah, just... Chewing is good. Oh, we got to go live on Facebook too. Oh, Oh, we're live,
Starting point is 00:00:31 live, live. No, I wanted to make it really difficult to do everything. Is it free on location live? And we're only charging people half price today. Nice. Wow.
Starting point is 00:00:44 Yeah, we're going sick people half price today. Nice. Wow. Yeah, we're going. Sick. Half price. We should just do a whisper cast. Oh, yeah. No, no, no, no, no. That's terrible. That's terrible.
Starting point is 00:00:54 Nope. Why is it? We could do anything else. Because audio-wise, it's no good. And Seema's done some voiceovers for our commercials, and I'm like, shit, I'm going to buy that. It had me in a trance. I was like, worked on me dude it was funny so me and ryan soper were just like staring at each other as he's doing like one of the reads it's like fuck dude like man this guy has a full-on career i was gonna say something else but in in, in, uh, yeah. In voiceover work. Cool.
Starting point is 00:01:25 I know. You could easily be like a, like how fun would it be to be a cartoon? Oh, that'd be dope. Yeah. That would be so much fun. Yeah. Yeah. You know, he's got different voices too.
Starting point is 00:01:36 He's, he's, he's ready to go. Yeah. It's, that's great. When you, when you turn on a camera and then you like, you kind of do like a double take at somebody, you're like, Whoa, that was weird. They've, they've been ready for this moment the whole i think carrie was like that when we filmed the revenant thing she was like she was she got way into it she turned it up yeah that was pretty cool anyway i got some bad news for you guys what we have a lot of meat here and
Starting point is 00:01:59 we got a lot of food here but i don't have any perfect keto stuff all right the wifey's got to bring it up tomorrow dude i was hoping i was really looking forward to like with the um the nitro brews mixing up some of that mct oil powder because i haven't done it cold i've only done it hot does it work cold too yeah yeah it works great i finished all my chocolate chip cookie bars by the way they're all gone you stacked them all on top of each other didn't you it's like i think four in a day. Oh, no. You did that and then you put one of their nut butters in the middle and made sandwiches? That would have been a great idea. I always justify it by I'm just like I'm getting in my collagen.
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Starting point is 00:03:40 more. I am gassed from that workout. That felt really good to go down there. We went down, uh, near the beach and did these, uh, flights of stairs. We did 20 flights of stairs and, uh, and we did like, well, I ended up doing 420 pushups cause I did 20 reps each time. Then threw it in an extra, an extra one, one but it was it was a hell of a workout i dude i mean i know you guys had the vest on i had a backpack on i i should have weighed it but after the first two rounds of the push-ups i couldn't hit 20 so i'm like okay i can maintain
Starting point is 00:04:18 15 i did 15 for as long as i could and then i just lost everything and i just couldn't i was doing cheater push-ups i was just like hanging out on the ground, kind of like pushing myself up the way, like when you can't do pushups, how somebody would. And then even that, I'm just like, I can't move. I can definitely feel it right now in my lungs. You know, I, I, I feel that I, uh, did a lot of breathing today. Um, you know, I looked at, looked at the heart rate monitor a lot of breathing today. Okay. You know, I looked at the heart rate monitor a couple times just to kind of take a glance at it, but I was trying to pay attention to the workout more, and I saw it was like, you know, 170 and things like that.
Starting point is 00:04:54 And I just haven't really trained that way before. I haven't trained where my heart rate is elevated to that level and then kind of sustaining. Although, you know, with what we were doing, going back down the stairs and that little walk, that five second walk break or whatever, it's like, uh, you know, your, your heart rate gets to come back down to normal ish, but having the heart rate elevated for that long is uncharted territory for me, for sure. I think the really cool thing though, is like a lot of people just have stairs where they are like if you live in an apartment building you have stairs if you live close to a campus or close to anything like
Starting point is 00:05:30 parking structures parking structures you have stairs you can do and that that workout was well i think stairs are the ultimate big guy fat guy exercise um and same with hills if you have a hill or stairs either one will really work because it's continuous it's continuous motion um but it's it you know it's one it's one leg at a time you get like a little bit of a rest after every flex of the leg and then it also uh cuts way down on the amount of force that you have. When you're running, when you're sprinting, let's say, you're in flight. And for a 300-pound guy to fly is not usually a good idea. Even someone who's just even if you just haven't run in a long time and you're close to 200 pounds, it's a good amount of weight. It's a good amount of weight on the joints and ligaments and tendons
Starting point is 00:06:28 and stuff. So if you can find a hill, that's huge. If he can't, if you don't have a hill or stairs, or you just can't figure it out, figure out that part of it, then what I would say for running is to really run like a wimp and to run very, very slow and to not have much of a stride, not leave the ground that much and just be a baby about it for a little while until you get used to it. Yeah. When we were going up the stairs, so like the first flight, we were kind of just getting through it. And then the second flight with like legit stairs that were, you know, sturdy, we were running those and I was just going like, just, I was going, right. And then I seen in SEMA go and I was like, dude, he looks like he's just cruising.
Starting point is 00:07:11 Like, I feel like I'm wasting so much energy the way I'm doing it. So then I'm like, let me see what this guy doesn't know what he's talking about. And sure enough, I'm like, all right. Okay. So because of that, I probably saved a couple of laps just by doing that correctly, by kind of being done? I don't know what you're talking about. I don't want to say being lazy because you weren't being lazy. But what he's talking about, like, I was just wasting a ton of movement. Like, I was going fast just for going fast sake.
Starting point is 00:07:35 It wasn't actually getting anywhere. So by like, oh, okay, let me cruise a little bit. And I was going the same speed, i was just like i'm pretty sure my heart rate even went down i get no i agree i know what you're talking about i know because yeah i think we saw i saw him doing it too it's like when you get to those second stairs you you you do run it but you're like you're not picking up your knees super high or anything you're just kind of yep you know so it's uh it's kind of like jumping rope you know when you jump rope you learn you don't need to jump very high the rope is not very big uh you want to do minimal amount of effort that's necessary to jump over the rope every single time crossfitters are the kings at
Starting point is 00:08:15 that kings and queens of that they are unbelievable like if you watch them do like a box jump like burpee like where they do a burpee box jump and then a burpee on the other side of it they stay low the whole time like they almost stay in like a squat position and they really they're they're strict with the rules that they have um and i know that the internet makes fun of their form and stuff like that but in general they they do an amazing job i watched rich froning's documentary the other day. I think I've seen it before, about halfway through. I remembered that I saw it again.
Starting point is 00:08:49 I'm getting old and falling apart over here. And then I watched another CrossFit competition that they did in Dubai and watched Matt Frazier's victory from last year and stuff like that, too. And it's just amazing how efficient they are. And again, they're very calm. Like they can't grit it out. They can't grind their teeth together and go all crazy because the event might last 15 minutes, 20 minutes. So you can't afford to do that.
Starting point is 00:09:22 Yeah, they're kings and queens of pace. I remember when you were telling me about Rich Froding and he was like in the rogue. Yeah. They're Kings and Queens of pace. I remember when you were telling me about rich froning and he was like in the rogue gym and he was just going and going and going. But the thing is he knows where his limit is and he knows exactly where he needs to work out so he can last that whole thing. Like these past few weeks when I was doing, when I've been doing those workouts outside, I've been realizing that there's a certain pace that I can keep these workouts at so I can keep going for 10, 15, 20 minutes. But if I go a little bit faster, the next round is going to be absolute hell. You got to figure that out where that is as an athlete. That's actually, that's a really,
Starting point is 00:09:52 really high level skill. It's crazy. I think it, I think it's might be similar to, you know, when you're lifting heavy, you know, we all like to lift heavy, but you shouldn't have reps that look like crap when you're trying to get better. And I think that that's a key ingredient across the board to gain anything, to gain more knowledge. You can overdo knowledge, right? Like, I don't know if you guys have been to seminars or people that are listening have been to, you know, like a two or three or four day seminar. Holy crap, man. You can't learn shit there because i mean you got there's a lot of people that at those seminars there's a lot of people that are smart and they've been doing before and they take the notes best they can but you see the same guys
Starting point is 00:10:37 you know at the coffee you know they see the same guys like taking a break using the restroom going for 10 minute walks i mean mean, a seminar I went to last year down in San Diego, you know, it costs a lot of money to go to it, but I, I'm worthless if I can't, you know, sit there and really absorb the information. So am I going to be able to sit there for six hours and absorb all this information? It's like, there's no possible way. So even though it sucks to miss out on someone's talk or something like that, it just like training, you got to recover, you got to recuperate and, you know, learn it in spurts and learn it, you know, when you're, when you're fresh and you can learn it very cleanly. Yeah. I know you sent us that, uh, that Tim Ferriss note taking video,
Starting point is 00:11:20 which was dope. I got a lot out of that, But for you, like, how do you review some of the stuff that you've written down in your notebooks? Cause you have a ton of them and a lot of it's like probably illegible at sad times, but yeah. Do you have any strategies for that? Yeah, very much so. It's like written all over the place. Um, but as I was listening to that, I was like, this is kind of cool because you know, by, by the way, if you guys haven't checked out some of Tim Ferriss's stuff, you need to. He's revamped his YouTube channel. He's being real hyperactive again with posting stuff. And he's, you know, one of the best in the world when it comes to like you want to learn something quickly.
Starting point is 00:11:59 You want to learn how to read faster or write faster or take notes better. I mean, he's the king of that stuff. read faster or write faster or take notes better. I mean, he's, he's the king of that stuff, but you know, in that video, he was kind of talking about how he would write differently. And Andrew, you pointed this out when you've seen my notes before, you're like, man, you write like fucking sideways and like you like are drawing pictures and shit. And I'm like, yeah, cause I want to like be able to remember it. And so when I do go back and look at it, when I see a lot of writing stacked up, I know that that's probably not that important. But when I see a word that's big or I see something that's sideways or circled or has a bunch of lines around it and stuff like that, then I usually know. I'm like, okay, well, that's probably the most important part.
Starting point is 00:12:39 Let me pay more attention to that. Because usually I'll do my best to try to keep up, which is know, which is always the hardest part and trying to try to like hold on to words that you heard, you know, luckily most of the stuff is I can like rewind it, but some stuff that I'm learning isn't that way. And it gets to be really difficult to keep pace, but I'll just, I'll write the word down big and I'll just kind of continue to keep writing just so I can keep up and then I'll go back. And if I thought it was really important, I might like put it sideways and I'll just kind of continue to keep writing just so I can keep up and then I'll go back. And if I thought it was really important, I might like put it sideways and I might, you know, put star next to it or something like that. But going back and reading it is, is one of the most important things that you can do. What was the, uh, cause I didn't watch Tim Ferriss videos.
Starting point is 00:13:17 What were some of the key points that you guys were like taken away from that? He just had, uh, like different types of notebooks for different types of things so he had like a quick one kind of like what mark would do like with like almost gibberish right yeah it was like a small little small one and he gave like examples of like oh like this is just a bunch of stuff like so he wrote he wrote out just i can't remember any of it but some of it was pretty crazy he's like but then he's like i'll go back he like, and this one that's highlighted. Okay. That one, that means that, yeah, I'm going to revisit this one.
Starting point is 00:13:50 He's like, and these ones are boxed. That means that they're kind of close, but not really there. And then on another one that I am definitely going to use, he actually numbers his pages and then he makes a table of contents. So in the, in the first part, you know, he has page one through whatever, blah, blah, blah. When he takes the note, he goes back to the front and he's on page one. That was note-taking notes, like whatever it may be. So I'm just like, because I have a hard time.
Starting point is 00:14:17 I'll have tons of notebooks also, and they just stay there. They just die. And it's like, man, I wonder if any good ideas are even in there. No, that's like, that, that makes so much sense because like, I have a few notebooks too, but it's been a long time since I've gone back and I've read my notes. And one of the reasons why is because you don't know where the hell to start. You don't know what you were thinking on that certain day. And sometimes you don't even remember what the hell you were taking notes on. And so like you kind of be, Oh, so this is from this book and you know, like it's not organized. So yeah, even when taking notes on podcasts, like all, so my, I have my own like strategies, like on the left side, these are where I write my questions.
Starting point is 00:14:53 And on the right side is where I write down like some like really key parts of the podcast. But as we're in the middle of it, I'm like, what the, what did I write? Like, it's not even close to legible, but in that moment it made total sense. Like, Oh, use this pen motion to write this word down. And I look back and like, well, so much for that question. I would relate it back to training again and say like, um, you know, every single time you work out, do you go and try, do you spend a lot of time trying to set up something new and totally different or is it more advantageous just to do what you already kind of know and to maybe review that you know like hey i'm pretty good at squats so i'd imagine i'll get a good workout and it will
Starting point is 00:15:39 go pretty quick and i'll be a very understanding of what needs to be done if I just squat. That's why people stay, that's why people kind of stay in their own lane sometimes, or they get used to a routine because the routine can work, can be effective. Like, oh, I know how to run. So I'm going to go, I'm going to go run every day. And I think if you look at your notes or you look at your education and your knowledge that way, then maybe you can piece things together. Are you better off looking into something that you thought was important just a few days ago? You thought it was important enough to take notes on. Are you better off reviewing that or are you better off seeking new knowledge? Just to probably depend on where you're at in your life and what you're looking
Starting point is 00:16:22 for. And maybe you do need to acquire more knowledge. I mean, maybe when you get done with something, maybe you can kind of look back and review it. But I would say, you know, a good way to know, you know, when to kind of look back at your notes is, uh, I think that if, if something is kind of like starting to turn you off about it then you you know it's a good idea to to reassess why that is to like try to take a second and say am i kind of just fatigued or or do i need to really look into this and not worry about uh you know if it if it's kind of killing me you know because you you want to try to make sure that you've learned everything that you could about whatever it is that you took your notes on, you know. And so that's the way I kind of look at it. I try to go back and dig.
Starting point is 00:17:15 And then I'll remember, you know, remember like why I thought the idea was good. You know, for me, a lot of times it's like an idea or it could be a product or invention or something like that. And it just keeps, it's probably why I don't sleep. You know, it just keeps kind of burning a hole in my head and it just keeps fucking bugging me forever. And I'm like, yeah, I do need to make that thing. But you go back and forth, you know. Someone says, ah, you can't make that.
Starting point is 00:17:42 That's too hard. You know, that's too big. We don't ship stuff like that. We don't make that that's too hard you know that's too big we don't ship stuff like that we don't make things like and you start to think about it you're like oh this is kind of a pain in the ass and then you know a couple weeks go by and your your your flavor for it your your fire for it kind of just you know kind of uh burns out a little bit and then when you see the notes again you're like fuck no i need to actually do that i need to make that and so i think it's it's really important that you review your notes yeah and then when you see the notes again, you're like, fuck, no, I need to actually do that. I need to make that. And so I think it's really important that you review your notes. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:08 And then do you find that like after reading it, you're like, man, that's kind of bullshit or whatever. Like, that's not a good idea. And then you take a break from it all. And then you come back like, actually, there is something there. Yeah. Yeah, that's happened. That's happened a lot of times. I mean, that happened with the slingshot, you know, or I, you know, the slingshot, I,
Starting point is 00:18:29 yeah, I thought about it for years and until I ever even like acted on it, you know, I'm just kind of lucky and fortunate that I did. Yeah. The point that I'm really trying to make, cause I'm guilty of it also, but people will, whatever the goal is, they will just pound that goal. Whether it's fitness, finance, whatever it is, they will just kill themselves trying to do it without taking a break. And then it's like, dude, I'm grinding. I'm working as hard as I possibly can, but they're not getting anywhere. And this is all coming from that book we were listening to on the way down here. They're just talking about like the emphasis on breaks, like some of the most productive people in the world, like in the workforce, they all like they, you've said this
Starting point is 00:19:13 on a podcast, um, they treat their break as a part of like their routine and not just routine, but like, uh, you said as far as like on, um on coming from the fitness realm, like planning your day, your off days, like that's non-negotiable, just like chest day. You know, like we're not going to skip that day. So we can't skip this rest day. So the same thing in the business world, like, OK, I'm not going to skip my break no matter what. And it just like studies have shown that like, like yeah you get so much more work done when you give yourself breaks that hill that we walked up at the end after we did the stairs you know you can you can sprint up that hill a couple times and if you do it with no rest you you really can't
Starting point is 00:19:56 produce any more force you just you'll get to a point where you're trying as much as you possibly can to run and all you're doing is walking you're not really going anywhere and you could probably get yourself so exhausted that you're really not hardly hardly moving forward at all so if you kind of think about your knowledge that way in the way that you're trying to learn it's very similar and i think your knowledge is like actually everything is really short you know the the people that are in the best shape in the entire world they can still only sprint for as long as any of us can sprint for like they can only hold on to their top end speed for just a couple of seconds really you know
Starting point is 00:20:38 and it's obviously the more trained they are the better they can be at that. And the less they can, uh, the more, the more they can work on, I guess, like decelerating, like that's a hundred meter dashes is more of a battle of who decelerates the least. Obviously you still need to be fast. Um, but, but anyway, I mean, you get the point of like, recuperation is, is huge. And, and again, just applying it to say like track, you know, if you were to run a hundred meters, let's say it's, you know, Hussein Bolt when he runs nine seconds, right? Well, as soon as he goes to do it again at that same effort, if nine
Starting point is 00:21:16 seconds represented close to a hundred percent of his max, he's going to be a lot slower the next time he's going to be slower the next time, slower the next time. And any track athlete, any top level coach in the world would tell you, even if he ran really fast on the first one, let's say it was training and the rest of them were dog shit. They would say that's a bad day of training. Even if the first one was like close to world record time, because he still didn't get like efficient training in for the first one was like close to world record time because he still didn't get like efficient training in for the day now he might have done a nice test and they might have said okay well that's cool because you're close to some of your to some of your bests but it was literally just a test and it wasn't good enough probably wasn't good enough maybe from a mental
Starting point is 00:22:00 perspective which is different but like maybe from perspective, it was healthy for him to put up that score, that number. But again, it wasn't the stimulus that he needed to even get better. It was just a test. And we see that with lifting a lot where we talk all the time about, you know, you got to kind of train and not really test your strength all the time. You got to, you know, kind of build your strength and you got to you got to build your knowledge but you don't build your knowledge by trying to force yourself to learn shit that you don't want to if you don't want to learn it then you're not going to absorb it yeah and then even with like your 1080 squat how many times did you hit 1080 in training right yeah i didn't i didn't, I didn't lift it. You know, I didn't, I didn't lift that amount of weight on any particular lift. Although, you know,
Starting point is 00:22:51 with some of the methods that we use, we, you know, we, we have methods and we have a way to, you know, make the weight, uh, you know, lighter at the bottom. So like we did things like, you know, reverse band squats and things like that, or, you know, lighter at the bottom. So like we did things like, you know, reverse band squats and things like that, or, you know, squatting against the bands and chains. And it may have been 1100 pounds and stuff like that at the top. I did a, an 1130 pound, uh, reverse band squat at one point. And that just kind of proved to me, it's like, Hey, I don't think it really matters that much what's on the bar. Um, i think i can do it if i just have the right form and technique which is obviously not 100 true but um it was again it was more mental
Starting point is 00:23:32 though than it was anything else more more of a confidence boost and i would also say kind of back to like the taking the taking notes and taking break thing is like i would have never even created the slingshot if I didn't write down notes. And secondly, if I didn't take a break. And third, if I didn't go back and read my notes. So that's how important going back and reading some stuff that you wrote could be, because a lot of people read stuff and a lot of people are knowledgeable. Um, but the real key and the real trick to life is to try to utilize your knowledge to your advantage and to the advantage of the, and the advancement of the people that are around you. You know, one thing that, uh, I was thinking about when you were mentioning all this about taking notes and obviously right now, a lot of
Starting point is 00:24:23 people are maybe taking up new things and trying to learn about new things and figuring that out. But one thing you'll see when people like maybe they get out of high school or they get out of college, a lot of people don't really try to learn new things maybe because they didn't have the best experience with learning in the past. And one of the big reasons I think why a lot of people don't have the best experiences with learning is because the way that they were having to learn, not just the subject matter, because maybe they didn't like it, but the way that they were learning wasn't the best way for them. Like having to read some people, they'll take an information better if they can hear it. Or when you're taking notes on things,
Starting point is 00:24:58 some people like for myself, I can take notes, but if I'm not also thinking like, like visualizing it in my head, like I have kind of a story going in my head when somebody's telling me something, if that's not going, then what you're telling me, honestly, I'm not, I'm really not getting it that well. My head has to be creating some kind of story where it's like being, you know, like when you're telling me something about a lift in my head, I'm thinking about actually doing it or, or, or some type of motion. I'm thinking about what's going on. If I were taking notes, I wouldn't understand it. So some people, they need to figure out what is the best way to make things click for them so that they can actually learn it better. And that's a tough thing to figure out.
Starting point is 00:25:40 I think, I think with you, something I noticed with you is I think that you're a good like mimicker, you know, like if I was to to say, hey, try this with this football, even if you didn't play football, and somebody might say, oh, well, he's a good athlete. And I'd say, well, yeah, sure, definitely. But I think it goes beyond that. I think if Andrew was to talk with a weird accent or something, or if he pulled off some weird karate move or something, or if he, you know, pulled off some weird, you know, karate move or something like that, even without you doing it previously, I think that you would just in general are a pretty
Starting point is 00:26:11 good like mimicker. You can say, yeah, I think I could figure that out. I could, I could kind of try something. And it would be clear that you're mimicking of what somebody else did. It may not match, you know, the professional, it may not match the person that's best at it, but it's better than everybody else in the room, you know, and that's a skill set. And those are things that, that kids have that, that, that people have that, um, yeah, maybe isn't really recognized by school. Like, Oh, maybe this, you know, and, and then how, I don't know how you solve some of these problems because each person might learn a little differently. I don't know how you solve some of these problems because each person might learn a little differently. But when I think about my own children and I think about like my son,
Starting point is 00:26:50 he's 16 and you know, we're just hanging out here together. And I said, it's up to you, man. Like whatever you want to do, you want to play video games, you want to like not eat dinner or whatever. Like it's just, you're 16. Like you're, you can do, you know, I'm not trying to have him like not have any restrictions at all or any rules, but like, what do I care? Like what, what, like I'm his dad. I'm trying to, you know, my main thing is to just keep him safe, keep him healthy, keep him happy. And, you know, we've talked about like his haircut and things like, I mean, typical things you talk to kids about. And I'm like, I just don't care about what you do with your hair. I don't care if you let it grow from this day forward and never touch it ever again. It just, it's completely irrelevant to me. I don't, because his life is his life. I mean, he's already to that stage when they're a little younger. I mean, you're trying to maybe like hoard over them more and have them be little
Starting point is 00:27:50 clones. You know, it's, it's easy to admit that kind of stuff. It's cute and whatever, but he's his own, you know, he's learning his own way.
Starting point is 00:28:00 He's advancing his own ways. Just fuck it. Let it go. I mean, let it, just let it just let it let it go why again like just that's such a simple thing right my wife will be like oh you need to tell jake to get a haircut i'm like but um let's let's discuss some reasons why like what are can we, can we have, can we come to a logical resolution on why he needs to, quote unquote, needs to cut his hair? Because that's actually not, because to me that doesn't sound very true. You may want him to cut his hair.
Starting point is 00:28:37 Now, if you give me a good explanation on why you would like him to cut his hair, then I will go tell him, hey, we need to take you to get a haircut. Right? like him to cut his hair, then I will go tell him, Hey, we need to take you to get a haircut. Right. But if you don't have a good explanation to back it up, you can't be because I said so like that's not strong enough. If, if you, even if you were to say, Hey, look, you know what? If his hair is really long, I don't want him to be lumped in with a bunch of other people. And I don't, that's good enough. Like even that I could say, Hey, you know what? That's actually a pretty decent explanation. I see where you're going with it. Let's talk to him and say, Hey, I got a suggestion for you.
Starting point is 00:29:14 You should get your haircut and see what he says. And if you, you know, and then you kind of go from there. So switching gears a little bit, what are your guys' thoughts on chipping the world record you know or just records in general yeah go there first yeah uh you know i think that it's been done it's been done for a long time i mean the russians are famous for especially because they they used to get paid for it so uh uh alexiev the most famous weightlifter of all time, he would chip his own records and he would, you know, make, I forget how much money he would make, but he was treated really well. And he would just kind of like, quote unquote, sandbag it.
Starting point is 00:29:57 And he, I think he broke his own record like 60 times or something crazy like that. And it was an all time world record. You know, he kept breaking the snatch record and the clean record and total records. And he would just kind of always just stay a little under so he could always break it and make more money and stuff like that. And so, um, people have been doing stuff like that for a long time, but a lot of times it's their own record. Um, so in powerlifting, you you i don't know what the rules are in the usapl and ipf they're you know they got they're pretty strict about they're very particular i'd say about everything um but in other federations in normal power lifting, you can chip records. I'm trying to think, can you chip
Starting point is 00:30:48 a total? I don't think you can chip a total. I think you can chip a, so let's just say it came down, you know, it comes down to the end of the meet and I have an opportunity to do a 2000 pound total. Let's just say that was some sort of record. Um, let's say the pre let's say the previous record, you know, let's say the previous record was 2000 pounds even. And, uh, the next kilo amount that I would be able to take on this particular deadlift would, would make it, uh, like 204 pounds or 2004 pounds or something like that. I don't think you're allowed to chip a, a total record. Cause I think it makes it complicated and I don't. I don't think you're allowed to chip a total record because I think it makes it complicated. And I don't think you're allowed to do that, but you can chip anything else. You can chip a squat, you can chip a bench, you can chip a deadlift. And I've done
Starting point is 00:31:34 that before. The biggest bench ever done in the USPF was a 804 pound bench. And at the time it was the biggest single ply bench ever done and i i did 805 i think later on i ended up like maybe like uh not in the same meet maybe like a couple maybe like a meet later i ended up doing like 815 or something like that so i came back and just you know hit hit a an actual kilo number i didn't chip it with the little tiny plates or whatever. But why can't you chip a total? I'm still like, I'm thinking in my head, what's the legitimate reason why you can't chip a total? Yeah, I'm not sure why.
Starting point is 00:32:14 And I could even be wrong, but I think that's just something that I remember. Power lifting is weird rules. Sometimes they're like, hey, you got to take the loop off of your wrist wrap. It can't be around your thumb or whatever. you're like yeah yeah like why is that a thing or your feet can't move when you bench i never figured that one out because who really cares your feet move the bar comes up you're right yeah i mean i see i see their point with your butt coming off
Starting point is 00:32:38 the bench because now you're kind of turning the bench into like something a little different and something weird um but yeah some of the rules are kind of stupid who care who care go ahead and move your feet around i don't think it's going to be much of an advantage you know in terms of like chipping records though i have honestly i have nothing against it because there is a record and you did more so it's your record like in what we're we're dealing with right now with the deadlift, obviously it's 500 and 501. There's a bunch of other factors like it's going to be in a garage and all that.
Starting point is 00:33:09 But at the end of the day, if he gets more, it is now his record, right? I mean, maybe it's not as iconic as the 500 because when, when my boy Eddie did it, it was like,
Starting point is 00:33:19 what did, was it 60 kilos more than the record before? Am I? Yeah. Yeah. Some outrageous amount. Yeah. Right.
Starting point is 00:33:24 So it's like a little, it's, it's, it yeah yeah somehow outrageous amount yeah right so it's like a little it's it's it's it's not as cool because it's one kilo but at the same time it's still i think it might have been like like around 30 kilos but yeah that's a shit ton of weight like 60 pounds yeah yeah so yeah i don't i mean i necessarily don't really have a an issue with it at all um i think the person that does break the record eventually will have an issue with it at all. Um, I think the person that does break the record eventually will have an issue with it. If, uh, like you had brought up Usain Bolt, like when he's dogging it at the end, kind of like, just like, la la la, like if somebody comes and smokes his record, he's going to eventually be like, shit, maybe I should have tried. Now lifting's different because,
Starting point is 00:34:02 you know, there's obviously a lot more opportunities to you know break a lift and whatnot but if he gets 501 i i don't i mean i think it'll be it should be celebrated like heavily and then he's now saying that like 520 is in the in the tank and it's like oh my gosh like that would definitely be a huge exclamation point on breaking the record. Yeah. Yeah. And, and in this case, you know, I would have to also say like, well, what, you know, why do the chip plates exist? You know, like if they're part of the rules and they're part of the rules and absolutely you can, I don't have any problem with like chipping weights, you know, in you know we used to like we used to have some
Starting point is 00:34:46 rules we do like max effort work and you know if we're if we're all like benching you know and and and uh somebody does you know 300 pounds well i'm not allowed to take 305 or 310 or whatever i have to take what you took first and and we all have to lift that and then we get to then we get to go up it was just like fun stuff that we did in training and then we also were like you know you you couldn't like beat each other by like five pounds like you couldn't we wouldn't allow each other to use like the two and a half and shit like that because they get it just it gets to be like way too much way too many sets and stuff and so a lot of times if we tied we tied we just we would kind of leave it at that or we would just try like a quarter or dime more which
Starting point is 00:35:29 was way too heavy and and not and probably not smart um but it's just kind of the way that we just kind of way that we did it i yeah i would have to say like chip in a record i i don't think is uh problematic at all and i think i think the main thing on this one is just maybe the way that it's going to be done. That's, that's upsetting, you know, to Eddie Hall and to some people in strong, in strong man. And it's, it's understandable. I mean, you know, Michael Phelps can't just randomly show up to a pool and at least at the moment, he can't randomly just show up to a pool and at least at the moment he can't randomly just show up to a pool and and break a record however uh we're in some weird different times and uh as long as he is timed in a way that makes sense uh in whatever way they time people now whatever computers or whatever
Starting point is 00:36:19 things they use um he should be able to do that because we're in a different time and and maybe that is where some things move to i mean hopefully not hopefully we get out of this thing in a couple months but um the internet is powerful too you know the internet is a powerful fucking machine so um even let's let's just say that he does this right. And let's say that Thor is set as Thor is like the ultimate sportsman or something. And he says, Hey, you know what?
Starting point is 00:36:49 Like I lifted more than Eddie Hall, but I want to denounce this as a world record, like just from my own position, because this is not a sanctioned competition. I just think it's the right thing to do. Still, who lifted the most amount of weight? Like, like what are people, what are people, you know, he should do that.
Starting point is 00:37:09 He should, should grab a microphone and say, Hey, that was fun. That was cool. I can't wait to do it in a sanctioned competition. Uh, when it meets everybody else's expectations of what this should be for me to break the record, that'd be kind of cool. Cause they wouldn't take it back from him anyway. And there's really nothing you can do. It's like, hey, you lifted more than everybody else. Yeah. What if like, because you brought up Michael Phelps,
Starting point is 00:37:34 what if he just like calls it like Guinness World Records, whatever, you know, and like, I'm going to break whatever record it is. I mean, he's still breaking it, right? Yeah. I mean, and if he televises it and stuff and uh yeah i mean there'd be like yeah you know he broke he broke the record now the olympics might not recognizing swimming might not recognize it but to your point i mean and what if it was somebody else saying hey i'm gonna break michael phelps's record you know it a lot of people would be pissed and they'd say hey it's
Starting point is 00:38:01 bullshit but again if it was televised and espn is is you know i mean who knows uh the different outlets that are out there that that are what doing whatever nowadays but espn seems pretty legitimate especially when it comes to sports right yeah do okay i have a question now do any of us know how the guinness book of world records works because like when you think about it right the Olympics, not going to have the Olympics, right? So now everyone who wants to try and break records, they have to wait till next year. But I was thinking, let's just say there's a snatch record, the Olympic snatch record. If someone was to call up Guinness and say, I'm going to break the snatch record by 10 kilos, come record it for me so it can be in the
Starting point is 00:38:42 Guinness Book of World Records, then it's in the guinness book of world records but the olympics wouldn't necessarily say that's an olympic record right but still that individual snatched the most ever at this weight class yeah i wonder how they handle that because i wonder if they i wonder if they would just say hey like we you know you can't break records that that exist in other sanctioned sports already like maybe they play it that way but i don't know it's a great question yeah yeah i don't know because i normally people don't set records like that they normally do something weird like i'm gonna snatch uh you know a hundred kilos for for two days straight you know without a break you know or something wild you know you're like whoa okay it's usually like weird, right?
Starting point is 00:39:25 But like, yeah, what if it was just some sort of straight up thing? Yeah. We got to have the, the power project, like world records, just so people can break random shit. Like I did 10,000 steps and whatever X amount of time, world record power project seal. Yeah, we have, we have, we uh had a few you know uh guinness book of world record people on the podcast but i don't know they wouldn't even really know i mean they would know what they had to do i think you need like four or five people around
Starting point is 00:39:58 and you need to video it and uh our speed golf guy yeah i couldn't yeah brad kearns yeah brad kearns and uh furious pete um mike uh the guy who broke the pull-up record yeah i'm having trouble remembering his last name mccastle mccastle yeah david goggins had a guinness book uh world record as well yeah it's going to be really interesting i think it's good well. Yeah, it's going to be really interesting. I think it's good. I think it's going to be good hype. Everyone's going to be super excited. And, you know, in getting this lined up for later today with Thor,
Starting point is 00:40:38 it's really exciting that we get an opportunity to talk to him. And we'll talk to Eddie Hall as well. I think Eddie Hall, you know, it's, it was a body of work. It was a culmination. It was like, I think it was something that he honestly didn't think he could probably do for a long time. I think he probably just, he probably knew that he was one of the strongest, probably knew he was one of the best. And he probably at some point he turned it on and, and, and recognized that he could do think probably for many years he's probably doubting whether he could i mean that's a that's a just a crazy crazy amount of weight you know once someone deadlifts like even
Starting point is 00:41:15 i would say once someone deadlifts like five plates that's a that's a lot of weight five plates is a lot of weight five plates on each side on any lift is a lot of weight. Five plates is a lot of weight. Five plates on each side on any lift is a lot of weight. Even once somebody, you know, starts to get into like doing maybe like double their body weight or something, it's starting to be pretty, pretty damn good deadlift. So for someone to deadlift 1100 pounds is just beyond abnormal. It is. But, you know, again, I don't think it's going to be official personally i don't think it's going to be official but even if it's unofficial in the eyes of the
Starting point is 00:41:52 world the new record is going to be if he does get it it's going to be thor even if it's unofficial nobody cares about that you just know that he lifted more because if when the official one does come out it'll be like oh but it wasn't as much as what thor did thor do either one of you guys know who has the uh all-time deadlift record powerlifting like without straps yeah i have no idea no that would be benedict magnuson yeah shit. Yeah, but that definitely proves the point that you just brought up, is that no one cares.
Starting point is 00:42:29 You know, because I personally still view that as the deadlift record because, you know, a big challenge of the deadlift is to hold on to that damn thing. And when, you know, Benedict Magnuson did 1015 and he smoked it like he was, you know, he was ridiculous. And what does a suit do for for somebody when they're deadlifting? Because a squat makes sense. A bench shirt makes sense. What does a suit do for the deadlift?
Starting point is 00:42:58 It's really hard to explain, but I would say it maybe feels like a belt. Maybe it's a little bit like a belt for your whole body in a way. Like it's supportive. You got a chance to wear the briefs that we made. So it's a lot like that. When you bend down and you go to pick up those weights, it's like you have something that is assisting your joints. It's like you have something that is assisting your joints.
Starting point is 00:43:33 You know, you have like if there's a – I'm trying to think of – a slingshot is a decent analogy. You know, it's a little bit like a slingshot. Like it's not going to help you a lot. It's not going to help you by 200 pounds. It might not even really – well, it could help you by by some pounds especially just depending on your form and technique and stuff but it can it can assist you by at least 50 pounds i'd say well i mean getting down into position with a suit on it's it's difficult to get into position sometimes harder yeah so it's like when you're coming out you have that little extra zip at a certain point if you've built up i guess enough velocity coming out it can help pop you into that position a hundred percent correct if you if you can get
Starting point is 00:44:10 your back locked in and get your back you know kind of straight and flat um then you're then you're good to go but sometimes because it makes it difficult to get to the bar sometimes you're kind of rounded over and you're a little some that's why some people can't really use a suit and that's why there's always so much arguing about it people like that doesn't do anything on a deadlift but i mean if it didn't do anything you wouldn't wear it yeah you know it certainly helps a lot and i think thor has been training in a deadlift suit it looks like uh i'm sure he's going to use every every and anything that he that he possibly can i actually was working on making him some straps because he asked me to make him some straps.
Starting point is 00:44:48 So we made him some straps. We shot them out to him. They went out today. I don't know if they'll get to him in time, though. Wow. Yeah, I was like, all right, let's see. Let's see what we can do. Yeah, because he's using those, like, figure eight looking straps.
Starting point is 00:45:02 I've never seen those before. I don't know if they've been around a long time but i'm like oh like that looks because i mean it is kind of a pain in the ass to sometimes to get in there if it's like a uh like a really like serious lift but having that seems pretty i don't know oh yeah i think you're really locked in there yeah it's the only like downside it's like you can't get out of that like you're it's like a trap yeah got your hands trapped in there i've heard some really like uh famous strongmen say like oh this isn't going to be good for the sport this is not and i'm thinking like how this isn't going to be good for the sport i mean okay let's say that he gets it but it's unofficial there's now more eyes on strongman because of hapthor Bjornsson, the fricking
Starting point is 00:45:45 mountain from game of Thrones. Like how is this not good for a strength sport? Can you tell me? Yeah, I think, I think it's great. I think it, it, it highlights strength sports and it's, uh, I think it's healthy. Even if people are, even if people are still negative and upset about it, I still think it's healthy. I think, um, it can help the sport grow. I mean, first of all, you know, Joe Rogan and people like that are probably going to talk about, it'll be talked about on a lot of podcasts and things like that. And then addition, in addition to that, like how many like young kids will see that and be hyped and they'll be like, wow, that looks, what is that? That looks cool, man. The guy's getting all this attention
Starting point is 00:46:21 for picking up heavy weights like that that would be neat and then also there's probably a lot of people uh that are that are bigger maybe they didn't feel like a like an athlete you know per se maybe they didn't have opportunities to play or maybe they didn't feel like that opportunities to play some other sports because they always been a little bit heavier but power lifting and strength sports are perfect if you're a bigger person it's an advantage to have a little extra fluff a little extra junk in the trunk yeah and i mean what sport has never um improved or gotten bigger and better by having one really big superstar jordan jordan jordan so jordan uh
Starting point is 00:46:58 mcgregor now bjornson like that's yeah he i mean he will be like once this happens and then if he does follow up with like a uh like in a sanction whatever it may be whatever to legitimize it all when it comes to like the top of the game in whatever sport or whatever he will be mentioned no matter what now yeah which is fucking incredible eddie hall's got to be kind of pissed because like he you know he knows that he because he knows that it would just be too much on him to try to come back. He retired. It doesn't seem like he wants to mess with that part of things anymore, which is totally understandable. But it's like he can't.
Starting point is 00:47:42 With jiu-jitsu, your coach, your instructor probably can't do it as much anymore. But when you guys are grappling and he's just like, oh, this guy's an idiot. Let me show Encima up a little bit. He could just kind of go in there and he could just tap you out to prove a point, right? Eddie Hall, he probably doesn't feel that that that's worth not that he couldn't do it he probably doesn't feel it's worth going after anymore but it's got to be kind of frustrating since it's meant so much to him yeah i wonder does his mindset change because when we had him on the most recent time he's like yeah no one's gonna remember who did it second
Starting point is 00:48:20 like but if it's that much over then he becomes the guy that you know lift he broke the record first but he still hasn't deadlifted the most yeah it's just yeah i wonder what's going to be going through his mind to be perfectly honest if i put myself in eddie's very large shoes if i try to imagine that i would be so pissed if my record got broke by one kilo personally from him. Like, we can all say, like, it's still broken a record. But being the person who broke it, you break it by one kilo? Fuck you.
Starting point is 00:48:53 Like, that's what I'd be thinking. Like, come on. One kilo? I think, yeah. I think that's where the, like, who did it first would come into account. Yeah. Because nobody's going to be, ah, he did 501, but. You know, I think sometimes, too, I think some of that who did it first thing
Starting point is 00:49:11 is a little bit of a myth, you know, who did it first via, like, social media. Like, what was the first big type of social media? Myspace, right? Myspace is crushed, you know you know like it's not i mean yes you should go back and look in history and say oh but like people don't even talk about it anymore kids don't even know it existed right there's a lot of people that don't even so sometimes being second and third and and being behind isn't necessarily a bad thing. And Eddie Hall, you know, he happened to be the guy that break that barrier, but there was a, you know, there was Andy Bolton who broke, broke the thousand, thousand pound barrier.
Starting point is 00:49:52 And there was other lifters that broke the 900 pound barrier and guys like Ed Cohen and stuff like that, you know? So there's, there's always going to be a first to something and there's going to be someone to do 1200 pounds. I mean, it'll happen, especially at all these mutants pulling sumo and stuff. I mean, these guys, they don't use straps and they're lifting 970 and close to a thousand. I think that one, that one kid did do a thousand, right? Jamal? Yeah, he did.
Starting point is 00:50:19 Jamal. Yeah. I think he, did Jamal get a thousand? I think he may have done a thousand like in training or with straps or something like that. Yeah, no, he did do 1,000 straps in training. It wasn't slow by any means either. But you give that kid a suit and have him pull sumo with straps, if he just trains for it, I think he could do 1,200 pounds.
Starting point is 00:50:40 No, and I seriously think you're right. I seriously think you're right. Yeah, I mean, I really think think he's only 25 yeah you know and he just like i think it was only maybe a year ago that he got into the 900 club he's just kind of been skyrocketing super consistently like and for him there's not even anything on the line i mean for thor he's the world's strongest man and like he's making a lot of dough you know uh being a hollywood figure and then being who he is in in his country and everything i mean he i'm sure he's doing you know really really well from a from a financial standpoint but for someone like jamal it's like
Starting point is 00:51:18 that that part isn't even there but what if it was what if someone was like hey you know you pull you know you you break the all-time deadlift record and you get 100k i think he would i think i think he'd be able to do it because what if he just gained weight too because he doesn't weigh that much i'll say that okay jamal is not like he's not fat by any means and if he wanted to put on a cool 60 he definitely could and if he also did also make no mistake about it we're not saying it's gonna be we're not saying he could turn it on and like you know blow the record out of it we're not we're not saying that i just think it's possible yeah it's definitely possible for some of these guys to gain some weight have that goal and if there's like monetization behind it
Starting point is 00:52:00 like there is for a lot of the strongman competitors i think they i think they'd be able to give it a good run yeah it's possible and possible to do within about a year you know wait um you guys probably know this but you know strongman deadlift form why is it that we don't see like are they not allowed to pull in a sumo type fashion are they it's like the deadlift form conventional yeah i believe they're not allowed to do they're not allowed to do a sumo type fashion are they it's like the deadlift form conventional yeah i believe they're not allowed to do they're not allowed to do a sumo pull um but a lot of them have a stance it's pretty wide it's wide even though their hands are outside yeah thor's thor's stance is very wide
Starting point is 00:52:36 brian shaw eddie hall i mean all three of those guys there's a few others yeah their stance is probably just as wide as some people that pull sumo yeah except their arms are freakishly long where they can keep them down there yeah all right i think we should bring this one in for uh for a landon tell people tell people where they can find you mr andrew thank you guys for checking out this live stream it was really cool sorry i wasn't uh you know chit chatting with you guys but i really appreciate you guys uh hitting us up with whatever. Let's see.
Starting point is 00:53:07 Johnny Death, you were the most active one today for sure, so thank you for hanging out with us. Again, we have a really, really big show coming up in about an hour with Hafthor Bjornsson, so if you guys are checking out the live stream right now, make sure you come back for that. Please make sure you're following the podcast at MarkV's power project on
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Starting point is 00:53:55 and then we'll have some shenanigans in the hot tub later tonight. Yeah, buddy. That's what I was looking for the whole time. We've got to live stream that shit. That's right. I'm at Mark Smelly Bell. Strength is never a weakness. Weakness is never a strength. Catch you all later.
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