Mark Bell's Power Project - EP. 394 - What We Can Do To Help

Episode Date: June 8, 2020

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to Mark Bell's Power Project podcast hosted by the fat guy himself, Mark Bell, co-hosted by Nsema Iyang and the voice you're hearing right now, myself, Andrew Zaragoza. Today, we had just the Power Project crew, so no guests. And just like a previous episode with just the crew, we had intended on speaking about different topics. Today's topic was supposed to be about fat loss. And again, we just started kind of just expressing all our thoughts and feelings about the George Floyd situation and everything that's going on. Drew Brees, a bunch of just concerns that we all kind of have been had in our head lingering around and we just kind of spilled them out all over each other and we talked each other through certain things. And, uh, really what it came down to was,
Starting point is 00:00:48 um, you know, we, we kind of started discussing like, what can, what can we do to help the situation? You know, uh, someone like me, I'm not, I'm not really going to put myself out there in harm's way in, uh, you know, cause some of these peaceful protests have been turned in violent. And, uh, I, like I said, I just don't want to get stuck in the middle of, you know, a rock and a hard place. It's a tough situation. So we basically broke it down into what we can do to help the situation that's going on right now. And I think you guys are going to appreciate it and find some value in it. And before the conversation gets started, I wanted to let everyone know that markbell.com is offering another free 30-day trial. If you guys haven't been poking around that website, there is now a premium version of
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Starting point is 00:02:55 single workout that the entire, uh, super training team does. So that whole team workout, you guys can gain access to that. And we're talking stuff from PowerWOD, again, from Kelly Sturette, all the way to the fat shaming. If you guys are unfamiliar, that's just basically our version of doing cardio at the end of a workout. We call it fat shaming because if you don't do it, you kind of, you know, you get it. Anyways, again, that's at markbell.com. Sign up from now till the end of June and you'll receive a free 30-day trial all you have to do is put in your email address and you gain access to the entire website including the premium more betterest version of markbell.com so that's it for me so ladies and gentlemen please enjoy the show hey you know what uh i'm i'm jealous of you guys i think you guys um i think
Starting point is 00:03:42 you guys got the salted caramel collagen protein yeah i got two of them actually see i don't know i could tell i could tell by the way you guys are acting today it was funny because in sema like so i went and i picked up my salted caramel uh mct oil powder and then i seen like like there's a couple extra ones over there and then in sema checked with me he's like hey there's uh there's a few extras here over there. And then Encima checked with me. He's like, hey, there's a few extras here. Did you grab yours? And I'm like, yeah, I did. I don't know who the other ones were.
Starting point is 00:04:11 And now it makes sense. You know, Encima is just sitting on a pile of those bars and stuff, too. I finished them. The bars are done. The bars are done. You put them all on top of each other all at once? Yeah, they've been done for a few weeks now so i'm i'm barless but you have peanut butter right oh man yeah amazing peanut butter cookies
Starting point is 00:04:33 and uh i think the peanut butter cookies um i posted about them and then they they told me they're like they're not out yet like you can't be talking about these things. So I think, I think they might be out by now. I think they said June, I want to say they said like June, June 5th or June 7th or something like that. They'll be on the website soon enough. But, you know, in this episode, we're going to talk a bunch about, we're going to go all over the place like we always do, but we're going to talk a bunch about, you know, fat loss and just some new things that, that we've all been up to to try to maintain a good, healthy, strong body. And I think all three of us are in the best shape of our lives in a different kind of way
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Starting point is 00:06:45 Yeah, it looks cool. And your background looks like one of those moving screensaver things. Yeah, the sky's moving quick. Yeah, we got a lot of wind. That's why I was asking. It's the wind is supposed to pick up to like 25 miles an hour today. Oh, damn. It's going to blow me away.
Starting point is 00:07:01 I'm, you know, I'm only, I was 231 pounds this morning, so I'm just going to get swept away. I'm just trying to get these arms skinny and, uh, just trying to get, you know, flabby. You know, I had a dream a few nights ago. No, no, no. It was weird because in the dream, all I remember was like, I was saying, Oh my God, I'm only 200 pounds. And I've been telling people I was two 40. And then I woke up and like, Oh no, I'm was like, I was saying, oh my God, I'm only 200 pounds. And I've been telling people I was 240.
Starting point is 00:07:26 And then I woke up and like, oh no, I'm 200. And I was like, wait, no, I'm not. It was the weirdest dream ever. This is some underlying shit. You're going to get found out in SEMA. It was so weird. Like I've never dreamt about weight and stuff like that, people. Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:07:43 Kelly Sturette was going around his whole life. Now, Sturette is probably the same height as you and Seema, give or take an inch or two. I don't know who's taller or whatever, but he's a fairly tall guy. And Jesse Burdick is tall as well. He's a little taller than I am. He might be about your height. He's definitely the same height as uh as kelly and kelly said something about being six four and me and verdict
Starting point is 00:08:13 did like a double take and then and then we looked at kelly like he was crazy and then we looked at each other and we're like should we should we inform him? Like, you know, should like, or just like, let him have it, you know? And like, you know, just, just let him think he's six, four, you know? And, and, uh, I looked at Kelly and it was like, you're not six, four, dude. Like you're just not. And he's like, no, no, no. I'm six, four. And then he, and then he pulls out the doctor thing. He always pulls that shit out. He goes, motherfuckers. He's like, I'm a doctor.
Starting point is 00:08:47 He's like, I think I would know how tall I am. He's like, I think I would know how to measure. I was like, is that something they taught you in medical school? And we were just harassing each other like crazy. And then Burdick is like, we're the same height. He's like, I'm 6' two on a tall day with shoes on. And he's like, so you're not sick. You're just not six, four. We were going back and forth.
Starting point is 00:09:10 And then there was something that popped up like a few months later, got in really good shape. And he started talking about being 8% body fat. And so me and Burdick got on a conference call with him and we said, Hey, remember the conversation when you were telling everybody you were six foot four. I was like, do we have to have a conversation about the 8% body fat? And he's like, I know, I know. He's like, but it was just one test. He's like, and so I just went off the test and he's like, and I was all excited. I'm like, you know, you're, you're not
Starting point is 00:09:40 8% body fat, Kelly. I don't know how we could tell you this the body fat one is one that everyone likes to pull out they're like i'm seven percent body fat i'm eight percent body fat now bro you're like 14 that reminds me of that veins and you need abs to show for it right reminds me of that adam sandler bit where he's telling him he's selling him all kinds of drugs and he's like oh that was just pencil shavings it wasn't weed he says he's so high he goes i'm so high he's like oh because you had the pot brownies and he's like yeah man and he's like there's actually no marijuana in those and he's like oh it's because i'm so drunk man i drank like all like all these beers and he's like those were non-alcoholic he's like oh it's this lsd you gave me man and he's just like i'm way i'm wigging out on this and he's like those were just uh paper
Starting point is 00:10:32 clippings and then and then he goes on to like he tries to commit suicide and he shoots himself and he's like i'm so dead dude and he like adam sandler's like it was a cap gun and he's like, ha, I'm so dead, dude. And Adam Sandler's like, it was a cap gun. And he's just like, fuck. Just keeps crushing them. Yeah. Did you guys see the message come through from our boy Smokestack that we're going to have Daryl Davis on the podcast again? Yeah, I saw that. Yeah, I've been doing some research and poking around.
Starting point is 00:11:02 A lot of people, I'm sure, listening to the show are..., hopefully I hope a lot of people are doing it. Maybe not everyone's doing it, but, um, I hope a lot of people are trying to educate themselves. I know that, you know, with what happened, it's hard to, it's hard to see what happened. And, uh, you know, I'm not imagining that anyone's running to the library, you know, to like whip out a bunch of books. But really, truthfully, you know, as much as that is hard to do because you get so angry and frustrated, that that's kind of the best medicine. Because, you know, if you think about racism and you think about like fighting it, you know, you hear people talk about fighting cancer. Well, we know that you're not really fighting cancer. You're not like you're not like, you know, punching a cancer cell. You know, you don't have, we don't have that ability
Starting point is 00:11:49 at the moment to do anything like that. And I think when we think about, when we think about fighting racism, I think we have to really, we've got to put some logic behind it because who are we going to punch and where are we going to direct our anger towards? And that is something that's just not easy to make sense of. And after you see someone get murdered on television by authority, by people that are supposed to protect us, it leaves you very confused. It leaves a lot of people very sad, very mad, just very, very emotional in a lot of ways. And that is what you want to do when you see it happen. You just want to run outside and punch somebody like you. I'm sure a lot of people I felt that way.
Starting point is 00:12:33 You know, I'm just like somebody needs to pay for this. And it makes you feel like you want some sort of revenge, you know, and I can only imagine how other people felt that are that are closer to this or that have been in predicaments like that before, how just enraged you'd be. Yeah, it's pretty crazy. All the things that I guess we're even learning about. Like I was talking to Andrew about this, and I found out about this guy, I don't know, it was a few months ago. I think his name is Darryl Richards. I have to look. Yeah. Darryl Richards. You heard about him, Mark?
Starting point is 00:13:10 I've heard about him before. Yeah. Yeah. That's one that kind of, that, that was kind of just shoved under the rug. But the thing about the, the weird thing about the Darryl Richards shooting here in Sacramento is that he's 19 years old. It was in 2018. You see the body camera footage, right? I don't know if you got the info on the footage, but you see the footage right before the cops get to him.
Starting point is 00:13:31 The cops get to him. They're like, put your hands up, put your hands up. The video shoots off on all the cops' cameras. It turns back on. He's down on the ground with a pellet gun next to him. So it's like, and one of our listeners are listening, and maybe I got something wrong there because i was trying to like i was like everywhere i was seeing all that like that
Starting point is 00:13:49 footage is it's like it's not there and they're saying oh like something happened to the body cameras at that point in time but it's again a situation where you just don't know what happened i'm not blaming the cops not saying they did something but it's really odd that the footage disappears before a shooting happens before you see anything on multiple cameras though right multiple cameras it's really weird yeah there was a guy that got shot in uh vallejo um i i think i think he was uh i think he's mexican i think he's like, I want to say 19 or 20. And he just happened to be around like during the looting and stuff.
Starting point is 00:14:31 Not, not just happened to be around. I mean, he was, I think participating, but he went to like put his hands on his head. And then they, I think from what they said, they said he was on his knees, but they also said that he had a hammer. So I don't know, you know, I don't, I don't know what he was doing or whatever, but this poor kid got shot and killed. And you know, I think, I think, you know, and Seema, you've mentioned this before and we've heard CT and other people talk about it.
Starting point is 00:14:56 Darrell Davis talked about it, how there's a conversation in, in a black home, in African-American homes where you say, Hey, you know, here's, here's what potentially can happen. There's a lot of racism out there. And I think this is something for all ethnicities to know is that if you get into a predicament with the police and you run or you do anything, anything alarming or you have like, you know, a hammer or like, you know, whatever it might be. Um, you just have to understand just how dangerous, potentially dangerous that could be. Um, the police, you know, they don't, they're, they're not, you know, they're not just gonna, you know, try to shoot you in the shin. They don't know what your intentions are, you know, and they're
Starting point is 00:15:41 probably gonna, if they're, if they have to take out their gun, um, they, they are prepared to use it. And I'm sure they're, they're aiming to kill. And that's in that situation, which is, which is extremely unfortunate, but yeah, what happened with this kid, it's like, he's probably just a young kid that had pent up aggression and anger and just was frustrated. And, uh, I I'm sure he was doing stuff that he probably shouldn't have been involved in. But at the same time, it's like we know that people don't deserve to be shot. It's just it's hard to make sense of these situations. Yeah. And, you know, we mentioned multiple times on the show that and i need to say this for myself too it's like i know officers have a very difficult job
Starting point is 00:16:30 like i'm not someone who hates police um but it's just like i saw something where somebody posted that we need to defund the police. I've been hearing that going around, right? But that kind of doesn't make much sense because at the end of the day, we do need police in society. We need individuals we can call when something happens, like it's necessary. So we can't defund them because if you defund the police, what's going to happen? Well, less people are going to even want to become policemen and we'll have worse people for the job. And it's not like I'm someone who knows exactly what needs to be done. But we've talked about this a little bit. It needs to be harder. I feel like if anything, it needs to be harder to become an officer. And maybe, maybe because it's so difficult and because they go through such rough training, maybe they should be paid more. Who i don't know but it just i don't think it makes sense to take away from that there
Starting point is 00:17:29 needs to be some sort of reform but you can't pay them less like that doesn't make much sense either just think about this for a second too like um i know they have stuff in police academies right like sensitivity training and these kinds of things, but like, that's a weird conversation, you know? Uh, and, and again, I understand is very difficult to figure out who's the good guy and who's, you know, got prejudice. And it, I'm not saying that any of it is very easy, but, um, like I, I don't feel like I need to be told that black lives matter. Like I, I know that, you know, I don't, I don't feel like I need to be told that black lives matter. Like, I know that, you know, I don't I don't feel like I need a speech about it, you know. And some people may be offended by a statement like that. But I've always been told that that all lives matter. You know, I come from a very loving home and we have respect for other people, even though I have personally partaken and I've mentioned this in other videos, I personally partaken in racial jokes.
Starting point is 00:18:31 And I'll probably always continue to do that. I just, yeah, usually, usually the banter back and forth is with somebody who if anybody has ever had a problem with it, I would hope that they would come to me and say, Hey dude, like, I'm just not, none of that shit's for me. And I would be fine with that. And I wouldn't, I'm not gonna, you know, bully somebody and just keep harping on it. But you know,
Starting point is 00:18:58 the police, the police force, they're in a very difficult situation. But you would think that, you know, a lot of screening, a lot of heavy screening. And I know that they do that. I know they have a lot of tests mentally, physically and things of that nature. But I don't think they re-up it very often. I mean, imagine being on the police force. Like, I'm just going to play devil's advocate and play from the side of the police. Right. Let's just say like every day, you're just seeing people acting like dirt bags, you know, and,
Starting point is 00:19:31 and it's all racist and you just keep seeing people continually lying to you all the time. No, that's not my bag of weed, dude. Like what are you talking about? You know, that's not, that's not my, that's not my gun. That's not my, this is just every day. And you're like, it probably wears on you after a long period of time. Now, I don't know if, I don't know if those guys get continually tested once they've been in there for a long time, but you would think something that could potentially help is that you do start to communicate with them or you ask the people they work with and they could say, yeah, dude, like Mark's been, he's like, he's been super
Starting point is 00:20:14 aggressive, you know, when we've been out on some, you know, he's, he's been a little over the top. I don't know what's, you know, and they give you some sort of evaluation and they say, Hey, look, you know, we're going to switch you over into, you know, a field where, you know, they potentially don't get into the same, you know, they don't get into the same thing. I mean, if you don't have proof that the guy's like doing anything too horrible or whatever, right. But, um, the train, the training definitely needs to be stepped up and they might need to put more money into the police departments rather than rather than less. And I think some people think that, you know,
Starting point is 00:20:48 it's okay to just let people stampede over the community. And a lot of people are against, you know, what Trump called into action, but a lot of stuff that Trump was calling into action was just in response to, I don't think anybody else knew what to do at that point, because it did look like people are kind of overrunning cities. They're lighting shit on fire. They're getting very violent. And yes, there's a lot of images of police officers, again, probably abusing their power, but something else to think about to make things even more complicated. How much training do people have in real riots? Not a lot, you know, not much. Thankfully,
Starting point is 00:21:27 right, that we don't have a lot of riots, but they don't have a lot of training and they keep telling you not to cross this line and you cross that line. You know, I don't know what they're supposed to do. I would think that in that situation, I wouldn't hit somebody if I was a police officer. However, if I've been a cop for 10 years and I've seen what happens when I give somebody just an inch, what happens that they take a mile, you know, and then I'm thinking about my fellow police officers around me. I don't want all of us to get stampeded, you know. And so it's just it's just a real ugly mess. But I think most people what I think is cool is that it creates a lot of dialogue. I think most people are in agreement that we need a lot of changes and a lot of money to, I'm assuming, a Texas police department to basically implement a program to teach police officers more about racial topics or something like that. But, I mean, he was like, no, we don't need to defund them.
Starting point is 00:22:41 We need to help educate them better. So that way they do understand how to deal with, you know, certain different demographics and, you know, just to kind of just give them more ammo. So that way they don't need to default to, you know, brute force every single time. Yeah. Yeah. The defunding thing just doesn't make much sense.
Starting point is 00:23:02 And, you know, it's kind of, it a little bit ties into the, the sketches that I sent you guys. I think it was from Richard Pryor, right? It's like, you know, you have individuals policing certain communities and there is a difference where in one community, that police officer could be your neighbor, right? Hey, officer Timpson, how's it going today, sir? Right. And then in another community, like in a black community, none of those people know who
Starting point is 00:23:31 those officers are. They are automatically seen as, as other, they're not, they're not seen as part of the same community. So there is a very big difference there too, which probably, you know, they'll be taking into account. I think a major problem, a major issue that is going to be tough to overcome is I think that a lot of African-American men and maybe women as well view police officers as very dangerous. And I think the reverse is true. And then how do we, you know, how do we, how do we you know how do we break bread together and have conversations
Starting point is 00:24:07 about how that you know I don't think it's going to come to a screeching halt but maybe there's just ways of not passing so much judgment on each other before we learn anything about one another you know how can you hate me if you don't know me,
Starting point is 00:24:26 the Daryl Davis thing, which is just absolutely brilliant. Yeah. I totally agree with what you're saying there. And like, like I've said multiple times, I know that not all cops are bad. I understand that most cops probably aren't, you know, wouldn't do what Derek Chauvin did. It doesn't change the fact that I'm still, I'm still afraid when I'm in a situation with a police officer, not because I did anything wrong, just because I'm just like, I gotta be, I gotta have everything where it needs to be right now. So I think like, we're mostly going to see a change
Starting point is 00:25:00 in the way that the black community feels about officers when we see more change in what happens as far as police structures are concerned then we don't have much of a reason to be afraid but until that happens we're we're all going to be just as fearful as we've always been and that's like again that's not me saying police are evil or anything but it's it's just like the react like the reaction or being afraid is because of what we see. I was talking to one of my friends and they were talking about how their children are scared. You know, they're like, my kids are scared because there's like these riots going on. And I said, you know what?
Starting point is 00:25:39 I said, this is a really good opportunity to talk to your kids. And these people are white. And I said, this is a good opportunity to talk to your kids and say, imagine feeling that way every day. You know, imagine being scared like that every day of like something could potentially happen. I mean, especially, especially if you had,
Starting point is 00:26:03 especially if you did have a past where you got in trouble even a couple times, just for just real minor bullshit. Then every single time you hear the cops siren, every time you saw them, and even if you didn't get in any trouble, just the color of your skin, being something that is being identified as being dangerous. You know, it's just, it's just a, it's a horrible situation. And it's been, I think it's been eyeopening to a lot of people where I don't think they
Starting point is 00:26:33 understood. I haven't heard, like I personally, I'll admit, I just haven't heard, like, I haven't heard you talk about it that much in SEMA. We've talked about race on the, on the show before. But I haven't really you talk about it that much in SEMA. We've talked about race on the, on the show before. But I haven't really heard you mentioned like being, like being scared and being like fearful. I haven't heard you mentioned that situation that happened when you were 14. And I haven't heard like a lot of the stories that are coming out from a lot of other people, because I think a lot of African-American people just thought
Starting point is 00:27:03 like, Hey, this is just like status quo. And why would I bitch about it? Like, why am I going to, you know, why am I going to complain about it? But because of what happened, I think you hear more people coming forward and there's story after story after story. And it's just completely 100% undeniable. I mean, we all know that these things are going on, but they, you know, they, they happen and they get blown up into a big news story, you know, every, every couple of years or depends on how much news, I guess you watch, how much you'll see of it.
Starting point is 00:27:34 But I think that this is a really opened up a lot of people to say, oh yeah, yeah, no, no, that's not like, you know, like the me too movement as well. Right. Like, oh yeah, that's happened to me too. And then you're like, what really? Like, holy shit. Like it's happened to, to, to so many. So I think it's good that we're hearing the conversations. I mean, yeah. Like, well, the reason why I don't bring stuff like that up is because there's never a situation where I need to bring it up. Like I have friends that we've all had those types of
Starting point is 00:28:05 situations right so we talk about that stuff amongst each other but that's where contextually it makes sense because myself my boy brian micah like we we've all had these situations happen so it's just kind of normal but it doesn't make sense to just bring it up randomly out of nowhere right um so it's just like yeah it is good that there's being awareness brought to that now. And again, like I think the biggest thing that needs to happen is just more people need, like, I think the biggest thing is voting in just the right officials in smaller offices that can actually help bring about that change.
Starting point is 00:28:38 Cause I think that's one thing that younger generations, my generation just doesn't pay much attention to who we put in office, you know? So hopefully that kind of rides into November. Yeah. And you can get involved in your community. You know, maybe there's some, maybe there's some small ways that you can get involved or big ways you can get involved in your community. Andrew, have you ever had anything like that happen? Like, you know, because of the type of friends you hung out with or the type of ethnicities that you hung out with, you've ever have, you know, because of the type of friends you hung out with or the type of ethnicities that you hung out with? You ever have, you know, any particular like run ins with police or anything like that?
Starting point is 00:29:12 I remember we did get pulled over because we fit a description. But by no means was it anything crazy like we didn't get certain. Well, sorry, I did get searched searched but it wasn't like they weren't i don't even want to say aggressive but like it was just like very like minor like they were just doing it because it was like protocol or something and i remember like we didn't even have like our the like updated insurance like it was very like they could have easily been like no you're going to jail but there's like no you fit a description but then they got a call for like something serious and then they they sped off and didn't even like it was it was just really weird
Starting point is 00:29:49 i remember being like super confused because like i was like really scared like oh shit like we got pulled over like is everything like i don't and it wasn't like oh shit like i'm mexican they're white i'm gonna get caught for something that i'm not actually like because i wasn't doing anything we were just driving i was more nervous like fuck do i have my driver's license do i have my insurance card like which i didn't because uh or is the registration sorry i had insurance but the registration i couldn't find like the new one i was so nervous um but it was like over in a second like you know it was nothing serious other than that just being you know with a group of friends to you know like in the mall or something and like
Starting point is 00:30:34 having like shop owners like follow us around and stuff which i don't even have a problem with because one of us probably was going to be doing something stupid but uh nothing to where like you know i had to go they're they're profiling probably your age almost more so than anything else yeah yeah yeah absolutely but other shit teenage kids are going to cause some problems i mean yeah and that's and you know at the time you know it was like we're mexicans whites and you know it wasn't like we were all mexican and you know looking like trouble we're Mexicans whites and you know it wasn't like we were all Mexican and you know looking like trouble we just happen to be teenagers so thankfully nothing too serious to where I had to like uh you know run home to my parents and like ask these like tough questions the uh I think the
Starting point is 00:31:19 worst time for sure was actually in Mexico which we were held at gunpoint by mexicans like the uh like the military was like wait you're not from here hold on we need to now search your whole vehicle that's that scared the shit out of me that was terrifying but again that was in another country so it was really nice to get back home you know but so no, I haven't really had to deal with anything serious the way that we've been seeing on TV. I like what you said right there, you know, and that's a great thing is that this is still the best country to live in. You know, I know different people might have different perspectives. They might have lived some, they might live somewhere else and they, they might be patriotic or they might love the country that they're in. But,
Starting point is 00:32:03 They might be patriotic or they might love the country that they're in. But, you know, you hear sometimes people talk about the American way. But I don't I've never heard that about another country. You know, I haven't heard. Oh, it's the Russian way. Like and it's like this this thing that everybody loves and everybody wants to move to Russia. move to Russia and, uh, you know, or, or everyone's in, in favor of, uh, you know, Korea or China or, you know, uh, communism or whatever, whatever it might be. I mean, there's still, you know, this, it makes it complicated because, because we have freedom, you end up with some really distinct disparities. Like, like I, I think we need, you know, we need a LeBron James, we need a Tom Brady. Um, you know, we need to have a Grant
Starting point is 00:32:54 Cardone on the show coming up. We, we need Gary Vee. We need a Michael Jordan. We need an Arnold Schwarzenegger. Like you don't have those people in a, in a society where they're trying to keep everybody the same, like where they're literally trying to now, what people are talking about is equal rights, which I am in full agreement that we shall have equal rights, equal, equal opportunities to all the same things. But this idea that you might think that we want everyone to be equal, that is something to kind of rethink a little bit. You really, you kind of don't want that. Because again, like, you know, I understand it can get a little complicated,
Starting point is 00:33:39 but you want to be able to freely, you know freely strive for the stars. You want to freely be able to strive for what you want to be able to get. And the unfortunate truth is a lot of the ways that our government is set up and a lot of the ways that things are set up here just makes it more difficult for certain ethnicities to be able to get momentum heading in the right direction. And so that, I mean, that's, that's, that's the part that's, um, it's just, I think a lot of the younger people are just, you know, they're super frustrated with what's going on and, and they're just thinking like that they want everything to be almost the opposite. And that's not really true. It's just this, we have, we have many
Starting point is 00:34:25 problems here in the United States, but this is an amplified one. I heard somebody say it the other day and they said, you know, racism has always been an issue, but it's just been like 17th on everybody's list. And now here we got it. It's number one. So, and I think that's a great point. And I hope that people that really want change, I hope they have the stamina to really stick with it because there'll be a lot of ups. There'll be a lot of downs. There'll be a lot of lives lost. Probably there'll be a lot of unfortunate things that happen throughout this process. Like this will be ongoing for I mean, it's always been ongoing.
Starting point is 00:35:01 But this particular the way it is now, this will be going on for a few years. This case right now that's going on right now, I mean, these four officers that got arrested, like, this thing's not going to, you're not going to hear much because they if they if a bunch of stuff started coming out about the case and stuff now, people would just keep continue to flip out and it wouldn't be good. So they're going to prolong the ship for a long time. It's going to be impossible for them to find a jury that's going to, you know, be able to judge this thing fairly at all, too. You know what? Real quick, you know, on what what you said this thing is going to be going on for quite a while but the crazy thing when you look at this situation the protests and all of that have been super beneficial towards this case because first off all officers have been arrested but i was just talking to andrew about this um the first coroner and i think mark you you mentioned
Starting point is 00:36:01 this on on a prior podcast the first corner that that that looked at George Floyd's body said that he had fentanyl in his system. There were all these other underlying causes that led to his death that wasn't necessarily asphyxiation by Chauvin, right? And the second family hired coroner was like, no, that was asphyxiation. So you think about this. If there weren't all those protests and there wasn't all these eyes and they went eyes and they went off what the, what the first coroner said would show and even be arrested. Like that's the only reason why he's arrested is because so many damn eyes are paying attention to it, that they know, you know, that if we don't arrest these guys, there's just going to be more angry people.
Starting point is 00:36:39 Right. So the thing that kind of is worrying is in situations like these, when there aren't eyes on it, is it like it's only one society's angry when they're going to be able to see some type of justice or what's going to happen there. That's a really scary thought. Like when things quiet down and they go back to normal, will we continue to see, will we continue trying to move in the right direction?
Starting point is 00:37:03 How crazy is that? Because I mean, to think that all how crazy is that because I mean to think that all of this wouldn't I mean if it didn't happen that he would still just be a police officer today yeah you know after killing somebody like
Starting point is 00:37:18 that that is I can't even put that into words how insane yeah if there was. If there was, well, if there was no video, right, right.
Starting point is 00:37:28 If there's no video of a police report, he'd be, he'd be off. Right. Yeah. Cause what was the police report? Uh, it said that,
Starting point is 00:37:34 um, he was, you know, taken to the hospital that he was still alive when he got to the hospital and he died in the hospital. That's what the police report said. Um, it didn't say anything about him dying on the scene
Starting point is 00:37:45 yeah so they could have made like the correlation because he did have a coronavirus system like right you did you know you also saw and i i didn't really see clear view of what the other officers were doing but you did see the one officer was just really not doing anything. I mean, his concern was about the crowd, which is probably what they're trained to do. I mean, you know, you got a guy down the ground, and that officer is preoccupied, and you don't want that officer to get hurt. You don't know what the crowd is up to. And you don't want that officer to get hurt. You don't know what the crowd is up to.
Starting point is 00:38:31 But as we talked about before on this podcast, it's so normal that he didn't think anything was going on, really. You know, he didn't really seem to he just he had no he had no concern at all. He just is like he's just numb to it. And, you know, I think I think that um you know what you guys are saying if if like there wasn't a video and they're yeah because the other officers wouldn't have gone back to the police department and been like hey like like i don't know what i just saw like it wasn't good i'm an asshole i didn't do anything about it. And I, you know, you know what I mean? Like they, they, they wouldn't have like said anything. Now I do think, I do think one of the guys, and I could have the wrong information, but I think one of the guys has only been on the squad for just a couple of
Starting point is 00:39:16 days. And could you imagine how bad that sucks? You know, could you imagine like that's your senior officer, you know, that's been there for 18 years or 19 years and you've been around for a week, you know, and supposedly this guy was one of the people who was kind of saying like, hey, I think we're good. Like he's subdued. Like, you know, and I didn't see any evidence in that in the video, but I'm sure more stuff will come out. But man, could you imagine, like imagine being that guy's family member, you know, and I'm not saying that I'm not, I'm not, I'm not trying to, uh, you know, lighten up the mood of, of what happened, um, to George Floyd at all. But I'm just saying like, man, that's a rough, that's a rough spot to be in.
Starting point is 00:40:06 People are probably all pumped that he's a cop and he's only been there for a short period of time. And he didn't have the strength to, you know, literally rip the guy off. Like he didn't, he didn't, you know, take it that far or whatever, but you know, it's just, there's, there's just so many things that have happened, you know, in in in the in the wake of this that what I what I think is also good is that like you see a lot of irrational responses to things. I sent you guys a video, I think, of somebody flipping out because somebody was getting graffiti off of a federal building. And, you know, they're, they're like, Oh, you don't think black lives matter.
Starting point is 00:40:46 And they're like yelling back and forth at each other. I mean, I think it's just like, look, somebody made a message. They put a message on a building. Somebody else has just recognized that I like, Hey, let's, let's kind of clean up our city. Let's clean up our town. And they're trying to, you know, remove some of this shit to get the city back to where it was before. And I think sometimes it's fairly easy for some of us to see some of the reactions and see some of the things that are going on and say, you know, there's a, the video that I sent you guys was like a woman's like yelling out of a car to these kids that are,
Starting point is 00:41:30 are trying to get the graffiti off this building. And that's not gonna, I mean, and as soon as the car pulled away, they just continued on with what they were doing. But without like, you know, really communicating,
Starting point is 00:41:43 like rather than just like filming it and being all mad, they should go up to them and say, hey, I have a question for you. Like, why are you getting rid of this graffiti? I think this graffiti should stay here for a couple for a while because what happened, you know, because of what happened. And like just some explanation, explain yourself a little bit. But, you know, this these irrational thoughts and the fighting and there's just stuff that's going on. Like, I don't think that's going to help. I'm glad you brought up the point about the other officers. Um, we had one of our buddies, a listener to the show had commented, you know, saying that we need to be focusing on
Starting point is 00:42:19 everyone else that just sat and watched. I think he was talking about like the girl that filmed and the, just the bystanders that were watching and didn't do anything and i'm just like the other police officers didn't have the strength to pull this guy off meaning you know they like the one asian cop just kind of was like he looked so passive like he looked like he probably i mean i don't know like it just looked like he knew that it was wrong, but he had no idea how to do it. I'm like, so to ask the bystanders, that's a really tall order. You know, like I get it. I understand.
Starting point is 00:42:53 I kind of agree. But not only would they be facing jail time, they could be facing fines. And if they get, you know, like like a felony then their life is essentially over and on top of that they're watching somebody else get killed and you're you want somebody to jump in and help that like there's no way like if if it was somebody i knew i'd be like no you need to get the fuck out of there because like i don't want you to be the next one you know it's kind of like this the 9-11 stuff with uh exactly stuff with the people taking over the plane. It's easy to talk tough afterwards and be like, I'd kick that guy's ass.
Starting point is 00:43:30 And it's like, man, you don't have any idea how scared the people on the plane must have been. And if guys stand there with a machine gun, it's like I would love to think that I'm going to run up to them and tackle them and save everybody on the plane. to think that I'm going to like run up to him and tackle him and save everybody on the plane. But what if I'm with my kids and my wife, I might be like, well, if we just listen to what the guy says and it'll probably be fine when they're watching, you know, what happened to George Floyd. I mean, they don't really have the knowledge to know that he's actually being choked out. They don't really know. I mean, they are seeing him and they, and I would totally disagree with that statement. I i i thought that the people watching i actually thought the main guy who's communicating with the police officers did an
Starting point is 00:44:11 amazing job like that guy that guy's a stud because short of him physically pulling off the officer and getting shot himself um i thought that he did an amazing job of communicating without going too crazy. Like he somehow kept his cool. He was like, bro, he's like, just let him out. He's like, look at him. Like he's, you know, he's the life is being drained out of him and he's telling him over and over again. So I don't know. I don't think the guy, again, a short of him grabbing the officer, which you can't even really like, I mean, just pulling your arm away from an officer in some cases, like an officer grabs your arm, which they usually are going to grab it pretty firmly. Just pulling your arm away can be
Starting point is 00:44:58 considered resisting arrest. Imagine what they would do to somebody who tries to pull somebody off of a suspect. You know, I mean, that's not going to be that's not going to be taken very lightly. Yeah. And I was getting like, like, just real quick, as that officer was getting approached, he pulled out some spray. Like that was in the video. Like they were like kind of creeping. He was like, oh, you know what I mean? Like, think about like how jumpy that guy is. I mean, just think critically about it. There's this officer trying to push everybody away. Well, everybody's supposed to somehow just kind of gang up on a bunch of officers who have guns, tasers, and spray.
Starting point is 00:45:34 Yeah, because that's going to work out really well. I think there's also, like, four cop cars around, too. So there's the four guys that are there, but I think there's other cops kind of swirling around as well. Wow. Yeah, and I just wanted to bring that up, not to, you know, put, put down that guy or anything, cause he is a listener to the show and we appreciate him, but it's because like, I did see, you know, like the, uh, the, the girl that filmed the whole video, you know, she was, she's been getting tons of shit for what she did for not doing something extra. And it's like, man, what could you do?
Starting point is 00:46:04 Like, you know, you would be there with george floyd too they did the most important thing that they could do they have a piece of american history that's important to the movement of this country forever yeah what more could you do than that i mean that's amazing you know like and and also too again like you know uh if they if they did prevent them you know then none of this gets found out you know and and we don't start investigating police departments more we don't start investigating i mean it seems like what's going on in minneapolis like it seems like they have a lot i mean a lot of cases of this all over the country you know but it seemed like in minneapolis in particular they have they just they have a lot of things to examine and look into. And none
Starting point is 00:46:49 of that would have got, none of that would have happened, you know? So it's a tough thing to say, but it's, it's true. It's a tough thing to think because you want that man to be alive right now. But at the end of the day, you see everything that's happening and there are negatives and positives, but overall a lot of things are being brought to light. I think, I think in almost all the other cases that have ever happened, people can, people can drum up a crazy amount of excuses for all of them. They can say, Oh, what was that guy doing? You know, in the alley, you know, in the middle of the night, you know, what was he doing? You know, they know, they can drum up all these weird bullshit reasons on why someone's life was taken and how it could have potentially posed a threat to the police. And I think there's two sides to most arguments, you know.
Starting point is 00:47:39 But in this case, it's just like so clear. It's so clear. case that it's very it's just like so clear it's so clear and so um yeah i mean it's it's it's impossible to say that maybe we needed it but maybe we needed it yeah i see the uh the video of his daughter you know i think she's on um uh steven steven jack i don't know i couldn't remember his first name she's on his shoulders, you know, and he has her up and she's like, my dad's going to change the world.
Starting point is 00:48:09 My daddy's changing the world. Yeah. I was sick, man. I mean, you know, the sad part though is like her being so young, she,
Starting point is 00:48:18 she still, that, that it probably hasn't hit her just yet. What, like what scout hunter like happened to her dad because a young kid it just you know you're a young kid so that that's sad when i saw that it was it was it was great but it was also just like shit very emotional for sure yeah yeah you guys uh andrew and i were talking about you heard about the drew brees thing mark yeah you know i don't know uh his direct quote but he was basically he was talking
Starting point is 00:48:47 about kaepernick right yeah yeah he was talking about kaepernick and um he was saying how like you know he doesn't necessarily support the kneeling because it disrespects the american flag he talked about how his forefathers like uh you know fought in world war ii and then laura ingram you know what you remember that or no laura ingram she's the one that said some shit about lebron or something right lebron and kevin durant um yeah she was like yeah shut up and dribble yeah yeah and then with him he's like oh she's he's entitled to have an opinion he's a he's an american he can have his own opinion oh my god oh god and it was funny when they put those videos side by side to her response to drew and then her response to lebron
Starting point is 00:49:33 and kevin it was just like this is juicy yeah she went in hard on lebron though it's like nobody voted for you lebron it's like those um those things are important to have happen because they're they're so obvious you know it's important that like stuff like that happens important that people get called out on it it's it's very clear it's like wow okay that we know exactly you know we know exactly where you stand now you know yeah? Yeah. Yeah. It is. Uh, in regards to drew breeze, like I would like to point out a couple of things. Um, I am patriotic. I am for, you know, I'm, I'm for, uh, I'm for everybody, you know, like whether you're a police officer or regardless of your color or ethnicity,
Starting point is 00:50:22 um, uh, you know, know, I love our military people. I'm friends with a lot of police officers. But something to think about and something to consider is that the American flag, I understand how it is interpreted as meaning a lot to certain people, maybe because of, you know, the things they've done for the country, but something to consider and something to think about. And even with Kaepernick situation, I think it got like misconstrued and blown out of proportion in a direction. And here's why I think that way. The American flag is literally a piece of cloth that we put stuff on to represent America. It's it's, but it's, but it's 100% made up. Like we don't need a flag. What we need is each other. We don't, we don't need, we don't need a symbolic thing. You know,
Starting point is 00:51:22 it's supposed to, what it's supposed to do, it's supposed to represent all of us is what it's supposed to do. And we're all supposed to be like for each other and with each other. But when somebody, I'm not saying that it's cool to disrespect the flag in any way, but when somebody is, is making a statement during like an anthem, they maybe haven't figured out a different way or a better way or they thought that was the best way. I don't think there's I personally don't think and somebody else can have their own opinion on this. I personally don't think there's any reason to be offended at all. I don't fucking care what Colin Kaepernick does. Now, he does that.
Starting point is 00:52:04 And I say, why does he do that? And then I hear why he does that. And I can, then I can make a decision about what he's doing and say, Oh, I don't really agree with that. Or no. Oh shit. You know what? Oh, the fucking police brutality. Yeah. He's, he's definitely, he definitely has a, has a point. I mean, I see it pop up on the news, you know, the news often or whatever your take is on it. But people get so wound up over these concepts or over these things. And I think it's important. I understand that people love American history and I love the United States as well.
Starting point is 00:52:43 But think about how irrational it is. You know, like it, let's, let's say that Andrew and I are at a ball game and I noticed that Andrew didn't take off his hat during the national Anthem. How completely irrational is it for me to turn around and punch him in the face and be like, you asshole. Now there's some people actually believe that I would be in the right for doing that. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:06 Which is ludicrous. It's an irrational thought process. And also part of having freedom is the fact that you can wear your hat during the national anthem. Like that's part of it. You can refute what's going on. You don't always have to be in favor of what's going on. I mean, I think, man, people just, they get such an irrational thought process going on. You don't always have to be in favor of what's going on. I mean, I think, man, people just, they get such an irrational thought process going on that it's going to be a difficult thing to unwind. But I hope, you know, moving forward, I hope that people can
Starting point is 00:53:36 really learn to control the way they think about the thoughts that are popping into their head. control the way they think about the thoughts that are popping into their head. That's, that's very well said. Yeah. And you know, one, one thing I do want to clarify here too is, is this, because you're, you're still seeing it. I think this, this week on, on Instagram, people have been doing a good job explaining when individuals are saying black lives matter, right? They're not saying that all lives don't matter okay because like because you still see people saying no all lives matter like the reason why people are putting this forward black lives matters because like black people in the black community don't feel
Starting point is 00:54:19 like their lives are mattering much right now in the eyes of police. And just as it's totally within the nation, they don't feel like their lives are mattering much right now. So it's not saying everyone knows that all lives matter. We all understand that just right now, Black lives don't seem to matter as much. So that's all that is. So please, when you see your friends holding posters, you see your friends posting things about that, understand that they're not saying that your life doesn't matter as a whatever other race you may be.
Starting point is 00:54:51 They're not saying that. Okay? It's similar to if there's funding to help an ethnicity get into a college. There's not a problem with other ethnicities getting into colleges a lot of time. So the fact that there's, you know, a college fund towards, you know, for African-Americans, it's fulfilling an issue that is perhaps problematic in that particular for that particular ethnicity. perhaps problematic in that particular, for that particular ethnicity. And, you know, people tend to get all bent out of shape about all these different things, but it's like, well, there's no, there's no reason for us to have, you know, a, a funding system for places where there's not a problem. There's no reason to focus in and hone in on places where there's not a, not an issue. We want to hone in and focus in on where there is an issue, where there's an issue.
Starting point is 00:55:46 Hopefully we can assist it. Hopefully we can help it. And hopefully we can, you know, draw, even just draw attention to it in this case. Yeah. I think people are, that whole thing is just that, and that's what we're dealing with at the moment is, you know, we see it in our own stuff with nutrition and we see it, you know, and if I, if I say, Hey man, I don't, I don't count calories, you know, then they're like, Oh man, you know, he's only this one way or, or if someone eats meat and they hate all vegans or, you know, it's like, it's kind of this all or nothing mentality across the board and it doesn't have to be the case. Yeah. At the, at the end of that 13th documentary, it made me feel extremely guilty. At the very, very end, I don't know anyone's name, but the guy says, people say, oh, if I was around during slavery, I would have stood up and did something because that's so wrong he's like but fast forward to today and it's just as bad and people are still living with it i felt terrible because i'm like
Starting point is 00:56:52 well shit man i don't really know what to do and then you know you see people putting up posts i don't know the exact quote but it's sort of something like silence just helps the oppressor or something like that um what's your guys take on something like that just helps the oppressor or something like that. What's your guys' take on something like that? Like I want change. I want to help. I think doing this podcast and doing stuff with CT and these guests that we have coming up is part of the solution. But like somebody else that just doesn't have an outlet, like what?
Starting point is 00:57:25 I mean, I'm just basically asking like how do we maybe not feel so guilty and how can we help? Yeah. I think, uh, I think in SEMA we'll have, you know, something great to say about this, but I think Andrew, I think, you know, what I've mentioned to you in the past is just like you improving yourself is like one of the best things that you can do because you at 21, uh, would be able to help a lot less people than what you can do now. With the strides that you made in your diet, with the strides that you made in your relationship, with the strides that you made in your career, the strides you made in your relationship with your daughter. I mean, it's just the list goes on and on of like valuable assets that you're adding to society. And you're open-minded and you're gaining more knowledge all the time. So I think extrapolating that out and just kind of putting
Starting point is 00:58:14 that out to everybody else, same thing. Make yourself better. Keep figuring out a way to make yourself better because the better that you can become, the easier it's going to be for you to assist and help other people when they need it. And I don't think there's any reason for anybody to really have guilt unless they're starting to recognize, wow, okay, I've done a bunch of shit wrong. I really need to make a lot of changes. But even then, it's like, well, you don't have to sit around and feel guilty about it because that's not going to be helpful. It's time just to make some changes. I think all ethnicities across the board are probably recognizing, yeah, man, I can do a lot better job
Starting point is 00:59:04 of what I'm doing now with my, with the way that I'm thinking about society, with the way that I think about other people. And I, I always am a big believer in, especially with what we're afforded in this country, like, man, just do the best you can to continually and constantly improve yourself, try to be open-minded, and just the same old shit that's been going on forever. Like, you don't even have to necessarily be extraordinary, but just don't be a dick. You know, just simply just don't be, you know. Educate yourself on topics, especially when they start to pop up
Starting point is 00:59:40 in your community or in society. But that's the simple rule. Don't be a dick, be kind to other people. Yeah. I think Mark, you mentioned it really well. I think also like the, well, the biggest things that every individual can do, and Mark, you did this with your family, you went and you watched 13th with your kids, right? So you, you, you brought an awareness to something that maybe not all of them were aware about. And that, in and of itself, changes a lot of how they think about certain things. So with your immediate family, maybe watching something like that or learning more about something like that, having conversations with other family members.
Starting point is 01:00:19 There are also organizations that people can donate to, like the Black Lives Matter movement and WACP, all that type of stuff. But I honestly think that even bigger than that is educating yourself like you did with your family. I mean, it's not like – I think some people probably don't think that that's that big of a deal. But I think that's a very, very important thing to do. Because then that will have you thinking more and understanding oh this is actually wrong and this is right i think that's more powerful than just donating some money to an organization and going about doing things the same way you always have been you know um so i think that's honestly the biggest thing that anybody everybody can do in this situation
Starting point is 01:00:59 is just to learn more about the things that are actually going on and why certain people why people are out there protesting because a lot lot of people probably like, Oh, there's no problem really, but there is. And you want to learn why they're doing it. One other thing is like, I don't think anybody needs to be, anybody needs to feel guilty. I mentioned this in our last podcast, but I want to mention it again, because this is something that I disagree with a few people on. Um, a few, there's quite a few people that disagree with me on this point, but there's this thing like, you know, you've seen like white silence is violence or whatever, right? Because certain people aren't posting or whatever on their social media. Again, I fully
Starting point is 01:01:38 don't agree with that. I don't agree that somebody should post about something until they feel ready, until they feel like, okay, I want to post my opinion on this. I want to post about what's going on. Or even if they want to bring more awareness to it, then that should be something that you feel drawn to do. That shouldn't be something you do because everybody else is doing it and everybody else is telling you that you have to do it. I don't agree with that. I don't agree that we should be forcing people to do something that they're not necessarily ready to do. We're bringing a lot of attention to it, which is amazing. People are educating themselves about it, which is amazing. If you choose to post about it, okay, cool. That's fine. But if you don't, don't think that, I don't think anybody should feel guilty for not posting up on social media about it. I don't know. Do you guys agree with me on that or disagree with me on that? up on social media about it. Do you guys agree with me on that or disagree with me on that? Yeah, I know. I agree. And, you know, you hear a lot of talk about like white privilege and stuff.
Starting point is 01:02:36 And whenever anybody's asked me about my story, you know, to be successful or make money or whatever it might be, I always share my full story. You know, I always say, okay, well, you know, here we go. I got to start out by saying, you know, I grew up upper middle class. I had a family that loves me and cares about me. Not just my parents, you know, my brothers, my cousins, my uncles, my aunts, my, I mean, just grandparents. Like everyone was involved. Like I have a huge family. Um, and everything you did was a big deal, you know? So like, I couldn't have, I, if I'm guilty of anything, I've had too much like love, you know, too much. Cause I didn't know, you know, how to do anything for myself until last week, pretty much. I didn't know how to do anything for myself, you know, for a really, really long time because there was always, you know, relative there to assist and to help out, but I still had to figure out my own life for myself, you know, and I think regardless
Starting point is 01:03:36 of where you came from and regardless of what happened to you, you know, I also had, I had a fortune of, you know, seeing my dad do really well with his, with, with work. But I also, you know, I also had, I had a fortune of, you know, seeing my dad do really well with his, with, with work. But I also, you know, saw him get released from his job and I saw us make like some massive changes. We lived in a pretty, pretty big house, lived in a pretty big neighborhood. And we ended up right back where my parents started, which was in a trailer park. You know, and so like I, I saw, I saw the ups and downs, but I just also saw that my parents were willing to just sacrifice everything for the sake of us being the best,
Starting point is 01:04:13 getting the best education we possibly could. Um, and just, just trying to put everything they could into their, uh, into their children. And so for me, you know, I, I, but I don't feel guilty about any of that. Like I, I just happen to be fortunate. I happen to be lucky. If someone else wants to call it privileged, then I, you know, I, I am privileged. I have, I have awesome parents. I'm privileged to say that I have, you know, I grew up in a family with a lot of love and I'm privileged that I, I didn't, and I'm thankful more so than anything else. Grateful that I didn't, you know, grow up in a city where there's a lot of violence and a lot of drugs.
Starting point is 01:04:53 And I mean, there was those things not too far from from me, but I didn't I didn't live in those particular neighborhoods. And I'm thankful and grateful for that. and I'm thankful and grateful for that. So yes, I, I did. I, you know, if we were talking about like a starting position of like where I was in society, um, I was like, you know, in, in the middle and didn't have a lot of other problems weighing me down. I didn't have, uh, you know, government or anything raining over me to like to hold me down at all. I was kind of free to kind of just start and just
Starting point is 01:05:25 go. But I recognize that. I understand that. And I've always, and I've, you know, my, my dad is a financial consultant for people and stuff. And he's taught me about these things and told me about these things. And I am aware, you know, I'm, I'm, I have awareness of it. And I think that's all you can do. I don't think there's a reason for you to feel bad about it. I think there is a reason for you to be aware of it and to maybe be thoughtful on, is there anything that you can personally do about it? Yeah. Like the documentary, 13th, and then a couple of the videos that we've been passing around to each other, so I've been aware of everything that those videos talk about, but I didn't understand how and why it works. Like when I'd be having like a, an argument with somebody saying like, no, like, you know, it is harder for somebody in these red squares to get
Starting point is 01:06:20 alone, to move out of the ghetto. Like, no, no, no, no, anybody can do it. But I didn't have the knowledge, the ammo to be like, no, no, no, no. This actually did happen all the way up to the 90s that they kept people out of certain parts of the neighborhood. I now have that. And so I feel good the next time I go into one of these arguments to be like,
Starting point is 01:06:43 no, bitch, this is actually what happened and why and how. And you know, so that part I am, you know, thankful that I am learning more stuff like that. Do I wish it could have come naturally? Not because of what's happening, of course, but some shit's going to change and it's just unfortunate that someone had to die in order to make all this change happen. I also want to point out that the movie 13th, you know, I got a lot of flack for it.
Starting point is 01:07:11 People are like, it's so one-sided. It's like, what am I going to watch a movie about? You know, am I going to, you know, try to, you know, watch a movie that doesn't call into question a lot of these problems, a lot of these issues, I recognize that it was kind of one side of the story. And there was parts of the film that I didn't care for. I didn't like at the end how they
Starting point is 01:07:35 and I didn't like at the end how they utilized Donald Trump's voice and they used a voiceover of his voice and they showed this stuff that happened a long time ago. That was really powerful, though. Yeah, it was. It was cinematic as hell.
Starting point is 01:07:52 They did a great job evoking a lot of emotions and it makes you think, shit, man, is that? Holy shit, I hope that's not where we're heading. But at the same time, like you said, Andrew, it makes you feel, uh, you know, it makes, it makes you feel guilty, but, um, I'm not going to watch a movie that is just, uh, a hundred percent to all, you know, favoring all of my own personal, uh, thoughts or like, I want stuff where I'm like, what really crap? Like, is that really that way? And I want to be able to look into it further and then find out one way
Starting point is 01:08:28 or the other. Was it really this way? Did things really go down this way? I thought that movie was... I really liked the movie a lot. And there was definitely parts that I personally didn't agree with, but it opened up my eyes to a lot of different things. I've never seen
Starting point is 01:08:44 it before. It's been out since, I think like 2016, but it popped up on the old Netflix. You know, one thing I want to mention, though, is, Andrew, you mentioned like feeling guilty. I don't think anybody should feel guilty for whatever level of privilege that they have. You know, as long as you're not an individual who is like, you hate other races, whether they're Asian, Mexican, or black, and whatever, and you've literally done things to those individuals, there's no reason you should ever feel guilty for any place you you've started in life, whether you're a kid that was born into a trust fund and millions of dollars, don't feel guilty about it, move forward and do something with that. So this whole, you know,
Starting point is 01:09:26 about it, move forward and do something with that. So I, this whole, you know, people call it white guilt. I don't think unless you're actually an individual who has done things to try and oppress other individuals, right? You shouldn't feel guilty of where you're starting or if you're ahead, the whole, the whole idea of the white privilege thing or privilege in general is understanding that you do have some, I have some privilege shit. I mean, my mom, she came here from Nigeria to America. She got a job as an engineer, right? And yeah, she did have to take care of two kids, but I mean, we didn't like have to struggle for food, et cetera. I have a level of privilege. Okay. That's something to understand. But like you mentioned, Andrew, the idea of redlining. When I've had conversations with individuals about this, right, and they're saying, oh, why can't these people just pick themselves up by their bootstraps and, you know, you mentioned certain communities have literally been blocked
Starting point is 01:10:25 off from good education. You know, there are certain people that are able to come out of that education, good food, good anything. Oh my, like, so there are a few people who will be able to beat the massive odds that are against them and come out of those communities to be successful. But a vast majority of them, all the cards are stacked against them. And you need to, you got to understand that that's actually just factual. It doesn't take away from anything you've done as an individual. It's not blaming you for anything, but it's just understanding the way certain things are set up. So you don't think that, oh, they're just not trying hard enough, or they're just not working hard enough, or, you know, well, you know, they
Starting point is 01:11:02 shouldn't be going into crime. Well, think about where they are and the opportunities that they have. And when certain opportunities come up for them to make money, you don't think they're going to, instead of having no success in school, they're going to turn and try to do something else that'll help them make more money. Right. Well, if the car, the cards are already stacked against you and you just don't have that much
Starting point is 01:11:22 parental guidance, you know, that that's got to be tough. Like, and maybe like maybe your mom or someone still cares about you. But a lot of times these people are growing up. These people want to say that I'm talking specifically about African American, African Americans, a lot of them grow up in a single family household. I think it's, I could be wrong. No, you're right. I want to say it's like 70, 70% or something along those lines. And again, that's not to point out that that's the only problem, but if you're living in the inner city and that happens to you and your mom
Starting point is 01:12:00 has to work multiple jobs, well, now you don't have any guidance at all because you don't have, you know, some, sometimes, uh, you know, maybe they can have another relative live with them or something like that, but it just puts you in a really, really tough spot. And eventually the streets are probably going to win. Eventually some, something along the lines is going to be, you know, more enticing than just trying to go to the school that you go to where there's a lot of violence. Maybe a lot of other people that go to the school, maybe a lot of other kids that go to the school don't care that much about their education. It's not cool to do any of that. Maybe you mess around and play a sport, but maybe you're not good enough
Starting point is 01:12:38 to, you know, make a living at it and you just kind of end up end up where you end up yeah and it's a whole another conversation for a whole another podcast but like the also like the the incentives to have a a broken up family are very present as well you know you can get paid a little bit more from the government if you're a single mother um and it's just so like the argument's like well it's not you know anyone's fault that you know the dad walked out or the mom pushed them out whatever it's like well they actually get a little incentive when that happens you know it's like and it's some crazy stat where like uh children of um doesn't matter like what ethnic background, like, so like a, a, a child that grew up with a mom and a dad, white, white parents or black parents, like they actually like the
Starting point is 01:13:32 statistics show, like both kids can be just as successful, but when one parent is gone, it's like very obvious, like how much their success rate drops and it just so happens to happen more in the black community more than you know sorry not more than just in these red line areas that we were talking about it happens a lot more because the incentives are there just look up fatherhood.org if you want to see the statistics as far as uh the statistics of kids not just you know the whole population but also by ethnicity uh just kids without fathers like there's it's tough it's it's it's rough statistically for those groups not that they don't ever move forward but it's rough for those groups and you see that it's very prevalent thing in in black communities and there's a lot of reasons for that.
Starting point is 01:14:25 It's not just because the father leaves because people are going to be like, well, those fathers shouldn't leave. There's a lot of reasons that kind of stuff happens. 13th goes into one of them, the prison systems, but, but there's, there's a lot of stuff, man. It's so again, going back to it, do not feel guilty. If you feel privileged in certain ways, no one's saying that that's a bad thing that anybody has some privilege but understand where other communities are coming
Starting point is 01:14:49 from where their starting point is yeah just have an understanding of it and yeah my feelings came from like not doing enough maybe you know that's kind of it's i mean i definitely i'm very privileged but it came as my point is I think you are doing a lot. I think that if you're trying to make yourself better, but not at the expense of like hurting other people, like you're not stepping on a bunch of toes to make it ahead and you're like, I know you, you know, I know that you're not like that. So I think that, and it sounds selfish, but advancing yourself, I think, is the most powerful thing you can do. Like, even, for example, if you don't take care of yourself from a physical standpoint and you have diabetes, guess who has to pay for it?
Starting point is 01:15:35 You know, all three of us have to pay for that, you know, through insurance and through taxes and through, like, it costs a lot of money. It takes up a lot of time. It takes up a lot of time. It, it, it, it fucks a lot of things up basically. So the more that you can take care of yourself, uh, you know, the, the better, the better off we all are. Yep. Looks like we're running out of time though. We got to get out of here, fellas. Oh my God. I just want to, uh, you know, finish up by saying, you know, we didn't get to talk about fat loss or anything like that, but we'll get that in a future show. I know I mentioned that in the beginning. You know, if anybody, any issues anybody had with any of the stuff that we say, we're open to criticism. You know, if you, if you have, if you want to point us in a direction of, of where we can get our education on, where we can learn more, you know please point us in the direction. Cause
Starting point is 01:16:31 you know, it's not like we're going to be talking about this nonstop every single day forever, but it is something that's, that's on our minds and we wanted to talk about it openly. And none of us are experts when it comes to politics. We're just people that happen to love lifting weights and we love other people and we want to see like good things happen in this world, not shitty things. And so, you know, if you want to point us in the right direction towards some stats or if you heard something that was way off from us, please don't flip out and please don't be offended. Just, just, uh, say, Hey, uh, you might want to check this out because some of the stuff you're saying is a little off. Uh, I'll point you guys in a direction.
Starting point is 01:17:14 I think some of this stuff, um, it's never, never a good idea just to go with just one source. Um, so I'll say that in the beginning, but, uh, Thomas soul is somebody that I found a lot of great information from. So you might want to look him up. You can look him up on YouTube. He's written a lot of books and stuff like that as well. That's a lot of good information.
Starting point is 01:17:35 Yeah, and then coming up here on this podcast, we're going to have a bunch of guests coming up. We'll have Daryl Davis on the podcast again, so we can ask him a little bit more about this particular situation, the riots, the looting, the protesting, the whole nine yards. Thank you everybody for checking out today's episode. For more information on Perfect Keto, please check out the YouTube, Facebook and iTunes show notes down there in the little description box there.
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