Mark Bell's Power Project - EP. 396 - Call In Show ft. Jesse Burdick

Episode Date: June 10, 2020

For the first time in Power Project history, we are asking YOU to call in and be a part of the show. Special bonus, we have our BFF (Big Fat Friend) Jesse Burdick in the house! Wait for the us to tell you when the phone lines are open and give us a call at 206-737-7369. In the mean time, you can text that number and get notified when we do another call in show!!! Subscribe to the Podcast on on Platforms! ➢ https://lnk.to/PowerProjectPodcast Support the show by visiting our sponsors! ➢Perfect Keto: http://perfectketo.com/powerproject Use Code "POWER25" for 25% off plus FREE shipping on orders of $50! ➢Piedmontese Beef: https://www.piedmontese.com/ Use Code "POWERPROJECT" at checkout for 25% off your order plus FREE 2-Day Shipping on orders of $99 ➢Icon Meals: http://iconmeals.com/ Use Code "POWERPROJECT" for 10% off ➢Sling Shot: https://markbellslingshot.com/ Enter Discount code, "POWERPROJECT" at checkout and receive 15% off all Sling Shots Follow Mark Bell's Power Project Podcast ➢ Insta: https://www.instagram.com/markbellspowerproject ➢ https://www.facebook.com/markbellspowerproject ➢ Twitter: https://twitter.com/mbpowerproject ➢ LinkedIn:https://www.linkedin.com/in/powerproject/ ➢ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/markbellspowerproject ➢TikTok: http://bit.ly/pptiktok FOLLOW Mark Bell ➢ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/marksmellybell ➢ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/MarkBellSuperTraining ➢ Twitter: https://twitter.com/marksmellybell ➢ Snapchat: marksmellybell ➢Mark Bell's Daily Workouts, Nutrition and More: https://www.markbell.com/ Follow Nsima Inyang ➢ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/nsimainyang/ Podcast Produced by Andrew Zaragoza ➢ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/iamandrewz #PowerProject #Podcast #MarkBell

Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to Mark Bell's Power Project podcast, hosted by Mark Bell and co-hosted by Nseema Iyang and myself, Andrew Zaragoza. Today is a monumental episode. This episode is recorded on June 9th, and it is with the crew and our BFF, big fat friend, Jesse Burdick. What makes today's episode so special is it is our very first call-in show. If you guys were checking out the YouTube live stream, things were a little bit different. One, there was no video originally. Once this gets posted in whole, you will see the whole video, but the live stream was audio only. It's essentially the first of its kind. And what you got to see was a actual phone number pop up on screen. So if you were watching it like on your phone in the app,

you could just tap that number and you would be on hold waiting for us to pick up your phone call. So today was really great. We actually got a chance to talk to I think five or six guests, those guests just being fans of the show. It was a fan line. It's incredible. They got to ask a bunch of questions, got to interact with us. It was really just, like I said, a monumental day, first of its kind. We're so excited to implement this again in future episodes. If you guys missed it, the phone number, go ahead and write this one down, is 206-737-7369. Now, by the time you guys hear this on the audio side, we will no longer be streaming live. So if you call that number, I actually don't know exactly what will happen, but you'll probably just stay on hold forever.

The fan lines are now closed. But what you guys can do is text that number. And the next time we do a call-in show, you guys will get notified via text. It's really just an incredible new feature. And we're just excited to, like I said, implement it a lot more down the road. And if you guys missed out, please text that number again, 206-737-7369. That will be in the podcast show notes, of course. And we will definitely promote that phone number. But this is also a great way to get notified. If you guys don't have any social

media accounts or anything, you guys don't do that. This is a really easy way to just let us or for us to let you guys know that we are podcasting live. And you guys can hop in and even talk to us as we're recording the podcast. So before we get to it, I just wanted to remind everybody again, that markbell.com is offering a free 30-day trial and that includes both the normal uh you know paid access and the premium access so you get the entire website for absolutely free but you just have to sign up before june is is over once june is over the 30-day trial will be gone as well. So please take advantage of that. There's an actual scoreboard that you can actually put points on. It's such a cool way to stay

motivated. It's an awesome way to be held accountable. All kinds of different content is going up there every single day. Right after we recorded this podcast that you're about to listen to, Mark and Jesse Burdick actually got into the gym and started recording a ton of new content. It's really awesome stuff. They're doing something different over there at markbell.com. So again, please make sure you take advantage of that because you can gain access to the entire website for absolutely free. You just have to get in before the end of June. That's it for me. So ladies and gentlemen, please enjoy the first ever call-in show on Mark Bell's Power Project podcast. And especially if it tastes good,

because I mean, everything else is usually, you know, you got to go, like when we've been to restaurants, you try and get the fattiest ribeye because that's going to have the most amount of flavor to it. Dude, yeah, no, if you haven't had, it's crazy like how lean it is

with how good it is. Because like I've had a lot of lean steaks and they just taste like trash. You've probably just eaten a ton of just like tasteless sirloin yep right yeah yeah yeah and you know 90 90 10 ground beef and you know you know 100 zero ground turkey so to have something that actually has some flavor that tastes like it it has some fat that's amazing and it's not and it's not that just that it has fat it's like it's a weird, distinct flavor. I don't know. Am I tripping, Andrew?

Am I exaggerating when I say that? Or do you get what I'm saying? Distinct flavor? Yeah, for the Piedmontese steaks. It's like it's a flavor that I don't taste in many steaks, even from the stuff from Costco. Yeah, just a heads up. We are rolling now. I know we were just kind of talking about it.

But I would say that the ground beef for sure tastes different than anything I've ever had. The steaks, I guess the distinctest of it is that it tastes betterest. It just tastes more better. You're probably right. You're right about that. Yeah. It's good. Dude, yeah.

Like what Mark always says, you know, they do the lean steaks so much better than anybody on the planet like the uh of course i talk about the flat iron steaks all the time uh 90 grams of protein eight grams of fat for like eight ounces that's insane so with that much fat you would think it would taste like garbage but no it tastes insane and then it defrosts faster and cooks faster somehow yeah so yeah you don't need a diet with chicken anymore no yeah thank goodness yeah so for more information on that, please head over to piedmontese.com. That's P-I-E-D-M-O-N-T-E-S-E dot com. At checkout, enter promo code POWERPROJECT for 25% off your order. And if your order is $99 or more, you get free two-day shipping. Second note, other note, next note, is that this is the first time we're ever doing this type of live stream on YouTube where it's like basically.

It's a hootenanny. It's a hootenanny, yes. Yes, a hootenanny. So real quick about a hootenanny. One day Mark text and Seema and I, he said something hootenanny. And I'm like, I just quote hootenanny. I'm like, dude, I love that word. We don't use it enough. And then I think and Seema was like, what the hell is a hootenanny. And I'm like, I just quote hootenanny. I'm like, dude, I love that word. We don't use it enough.

And then I think and Seaman was like, what the hell is a hootenanny? Someone's calling in. Yeah, that's someone calling in angry. That was loud. I think we said hootenanny one too many times. Do you guys remember? Do you remember? Well, you guys are way too young probably about like how the BC boys kind of got started.

They did a call in. So I'm expecting like the next Beastie Boys. So they get a call-in with like one of the old DJs in New York City. And do you guys remember, was it Basket and Robbins? Like Cookie Puss? Oh, yeah. Carvel. Carvel.

So they called in. That's fat that I know that. It was the Beastie Boys made this song called Cookie Puss and then they would prank call a bunch of DJs

and be like hey you uh you heard of that Cookie Puss what you think about that Cookie Puss and they're just like

what the hell are you talking about and they would just say yeah them Beastie Boys they put out a thing about Cookie Puss what you think about that and they're like

I don't know what the hell you're talking about and then that's how like people that's how they promoted it who the hell are the beastie boys what the fuck is this cookie puss thing and then everyone i mean this is before you know social media and everything so everyone was actually listening to the radio who in the hell made up cookie puss like what the hell kind of name is that it's like a kid's uh ice cream like

ice cream cake exactly but cookie puss like some evil person's laughing their ass off about that one that sounds like a slur to be honest let's make you fucking cookie that's what i would say to someone if i was a kid yeah i think you should i think you should start that i think that'd be a really good thing now we're gonna get calls in like calling us cookie puss yeah there we go okay now we're all rolling so was that a call no so i think so we got some feedback because like when we laughed it was like so much that it like exploded the phone but anyways yeah so we'll turn on the phone line soon but basically anybody that's listening to this live you guys will actually have an opportunity to call us the uh the number is 206-737-7369 it's in the description

if you guys need it but um and on top of that you guys can actually text that number and every time we do a call-in show you guys will get notified right there on your phone um let us know in the like if you guys are watching it live or listening live i should say uh how it's sounding how it looks obviously it doesn't look like anything on the YouTube side. But if you guys can, in the comments, let us know what it sounds like. Let us know if you need it louder, quieter, if we sound too loud, whatever it is. And then also just be on the lookout for when the phone lines are open, and we'll also let you guys know.

Well, bam. That's pretty cool. It's sick, dude, yeah. So we're just gonna see how this goes more than anything yeah essentially yeah this is a good uh we usually do a dry run we call it a dry rub today we're just we're just jumping right to the deep end though we figured we had jesse burdick in the house so this is a dry hump of the um it's of the calling yeah what you've been uh what you've been doing with yourself jesse burdick you know what there's some quarantine stuff going on like what have you

been doing you know um you know at home you've been able to hang out with your kids a little bit more and stuff like that you got a you got a baby on the way i mean all kinds of craziness going on um yeah just you know i think like most parents just trying to manage having kids at home and, you know, understanding that the whole distance learning thing, if it's not planned out really well, turns into a homeschooling type of situation. And then you also, so I'm lucky that the girls, you know, they're 12 going on 13 and they're really good students and they're on top of stuff. So we don't really have to manage stuff.

It's more of just like the trying to keep them on schedule and stuff. Yeah, having some sort of schedule, right? Yeah. So, I mean, it's been challenging because I was talking to Ape about it where it's like the first couple weeks they had like a half an hour of schoolwork to do each day. I'm like, come on, you can't be done. And then the week after they had about like they weren't done till 6 p.m and you're like what are you guys doing but i think this really does go to show that you know

um the the in-school teaching you know really does have to be adjusted to you know to a distance learning type of thing and you know it's of no you know we i you know my parents are teachers and we know teachers and you know we know that they work extremely hard for pennies on the dollar per hour when you come down to it. So we know that they're working hard and they're trying to figure it out. people for anyone in a grade school or a high school where they're like you know we should have we should have a distance learning you know protocol for just in case something happens that's never ever been you know uttered and i think now they're trying to play catch up you know and um where my mom teaches in you know rural pennsylvania they had to go and give everybody hot spots because they don't have the internet the interwebs don't reach out into the

middle of absolute nowhere and then they gave them them the hotspots, and then they mailed it to them. They're like, okay, cool. So how do I turn this on? So then they had to come out and teach them how to turn them on, how to get them connected. And my mom teaches kindergarten. So these are kindergarten kids that you're giving a tablet and a Wi-Fi thing, and they're going to listen to my mom read them a story, because that's all that you can do when you're distance learning with those kids.

But you know what? I've never taken a vacation more than maybe a week. So for the first couple of weeks, I was like, hey, this is all right. You know, catch up on some sleep, catch up on some reading, do some other stuff. And after two weeks was bored as hell. And on top of that, you know, stir crazy. Yeah. And on top of that, it's not like a kick your feet up cool kind of thing because you have no idea what's going on. And you know, your, your livelihood is being negatively affected. You have other people who are losing their jobs, unemployed. And it just kind of goes way.

You and your wife both train and coach a lot of people. Yeah. I think you both do some a lot of online work, but you do a lot of in-person stuff as well. Yeah, I do online stuff and, you know, helping out with Mark Bell dot com at this point, too. But, you know, I actually really programming. Programming for Super Training Gym for a long time now. Yes. I really, I prefer to do in-person stuff, personally, because I think that that, you know, most of the time when you do online stuff, you're getting, you know, even at my best, I don't know, like 60%. Like when you actually see someone in person, you can do so much more.

Yeah, we've talked to a bunch of people that you train, and I think that every person that you train, when we talk about you, they start crying. I don't know if it's because of the pain that you make them go through, but you know they have a strong emotional connection because you do a great job as a coach. You're probably not going to get that same synergy like online you know yeah it does

become difficult because i think coaching is you know the the the word coach for me and i believe you too and a lot of other people it it should hold a little bit more reverence than i think it does you know i mean you can be an online coach and never have gone to school or never anything and you know i really put a lot into trying to figure out who I am dealing with, what motivates you, you know, what's your past? How can I relate what I'm trying to teach you? I want to learn how you learn so I can teach to your learning style. And I want to know what motivates you. And, you know, I want to be able to have you come into the gym kind of like, like something I noticed that you do a really good job of is you put yourself into the other person's shoes a lot

of times because I've had trouble with people in the past. And you're like, well, you got to think about like, okay, from his perspective, here's what he's hearing. And I'm like, wait, what? I'm like, I think Jesse's right. Like, damn it. I mean, you know, my, my background is, you know, psychology and sociology and, you know, the, the books I listened to and read are all about motivation and trying to figure out how to get people to do stuff. And, you know, we always talk about how do you start, you know what I mean? And, you know, it's just like getting go right. And I mean, but you can say just go a million different ways. You just got to find the right way to say it. So it's been an interesting, you know, doing the stuff online has been, you know, it's kind of blown up, but I think it also, everyone is kind of like, whoa, you can do all this stuff online. But at the same time, you know, I get messages every day from my, from my client, you know,

from all my lifters and clients who, who I see in person and who I have seen every day for the past, I don't know, 10 years or something along those lines who are just like, this is this isn't the same. This is not cool. I do not like this. And so it's been a challenge to keep people a little bit sane, I guess, and try and just, you know, I think more than anything, most people as human beings, we re we really want some structure because that gives us a feeling of, you know, contentment and that everything's going to kind of be okay. Whatever your level of okay is. And when, when there's so much unsure and there's so

much up in the air and you don't know if your job's going to come back, you've been furloughed, you don't know how long your unemployment's going to last. You don't know if your job's going to come back. You've been furloughed. You don't know how long your unemployment's going to last. You don't know if you have a job when you come back. You don't, you know what I mean? There's so many things and it, the stress levels and kind of the mental health aspect of things is a, it's just starting to kind of peek its head out. And I think a lot of the stuff that's kind of going on very,

very currently is because of people who have been locked up for three months. And they're kind of just, you know, they don't know what to say. They don't know what to do. They're angry. They're scared. And people are just lashing out in all sorts of different ways. And, I mean, I think this is, you know, we want to talk about waves. You know, this isn't even the first wave, and it's not even a big one because there's more coming unfortunately i think that there's going to be a big mental health um scare coming

because there's going to be a lot of people who when we finally say hey you can come out of your apartments we'll find out 25 of them don't want to ever come out again and that's a really frightening aspect to to have people hidden away for the rest of their lives. Why do you think it's so high? Because that's a big one. Well, I don't know what the number is, but I mean, I can speak to two or three people that I know who come out of their house once every three weeks during this whole thing.

And not only is that not healthy from the air aspect of you're just breathing your apartment. Well, we know like getting outside kind of perpetuates getting outside, staying inside kind of perpetuates staying inside, staying inside, staying in a dark room, playing video games, that kind of stuff. Yeah. And it's just increases that. And I mean, not being able to see the sun, not seeing other people, you know, really kind of further distances you and it makes like it just makes your head go a little nuts. I mean, you can't tell me that, you know, it really kind of further distances you and it makes like it just makes your head go a little nuts. I mean, you can't tell me that, you know, someone who's in jail or someone who's been locked up and gets thrown into solitary and comes out the same person. It's not fucking true.

Not at all. That's the worst thing that we can do to people. A hundred percent. And this is what we're doing. We've scared people. We've scared enough people who some of them just may never come back out. And they're always going to wear them. They're always going to be that guy who wears a mask no matter where they go.

And they're going to buy. They're going to go to Costco and spend $1,300 on, you know, toilet paper. And hand sanitizer. And hand sanitizer. And more of these people are coming. And we, you know, we as a we need to be kind of a little bit sensitive to that fact. And also just start to try and understand how that's going to affect their, their actions going forward and how everyone kind of relates to it. It's going to be a really, it's going to be really weird.

The new normal is going to be, it's going to look funky for sure. Cool. You guys ready? Yeah, we're ready. All right, let's see what happens. I don't know. We'll see. But you know, okay.

Hello? Can you see who's calling in? I cannot right now. Is it Jay Johnson? Oh, it's Jay Johnson. Oh, whoa. Hey, what's up, Jay Johnson? We can't scream into the phone.

Okay, I've heard that now. That We can't scream into the phone. Okay. I learned that now. That's okay. You guys are doing great things. I love listening to you guys' project. I'm a former United States Marine Corps member. Hell yeah. Thank you.

Hoorah. For real. And I love everything you guys do. I love all your workouts. I was 170. Now I'm down to about 145. Wow. Trying to get back at it, you know?

Good for you, man. Leaning out. Yeah, definitely. I've been doing tons of yoga, tons of mobility exercises, been skateboarding a lot. Yoga? Can we hang up on this guy? Hey, how much you bench is the main thing. How much you bench?

About 150. All right. I don't know if we can keep this guy on the line anymore. You got a question for us? Yeah. I wanted to know how Dan Johns University is going. Do you guys believe in that? Should I start Olympic lifting?

Like, how could I bulk up? Yeah, Dan Johns got great information. I think Jesse Burdick has been following his career a little bit more closely. I've known Dan for a long time, and, I mean, he's one of the true OGs in the business. You know, he's one of the first books I read. And this was, I don't even know how long ago. I don't want to embarrass him or me for how long ago it was. He's been keeping it simple forever.

Extremely. And I think he does a really, really good job of really diluting his information and really giving people kind of thunderbolts to kind of hang on to. And I'm a fan of everything he does. And, I mean, he's one of those dudes who, you know, there are people out there whose information and what they do is really, really awesome. But as people, you're just like, eh. Dan John is probably one of the most solid human beings I've ever met in my whole life. So anything that ever has to do with, you know, Dan, John, I'm always a huge fan of, I think it's a great place to start. You know, it's kind of in the middle of, you know,

right at smack dab in the middle of everything of bodybuilding, weightlifting, powerlifting, strongman type stuff. It's a, it's a, it's a place that you can build a base to jump off of to anywhere where sometimes other stuff you, you you know you really have to kind of have an idea of where you're going if you can kind of stick with some of dan's stuff you'll be able to you'll be able to go in kind of you know pivot move especially somebody that's in the military that wants to be athletic and still be able to move and not just have giant legs for squats right yeah absolutely right that's that's been the problem with me is i did tons of swimming with recon and then i of swimming with recon,

and then I got injured with recon, and then I got out. And I've been trying to heal my shoulder. I've had a little bit of shoulder mobility. I've gained it back through a lot of the stretching. Good for you. But I think 99% of what I'm trying to do is just get back to that 170, big chest, 24 pull-ups, you know, that Marine Corps oorah shit. And I'm trying real hard to get up there again and it's been hard to find the motivation and watching you guys and seeing how big you guys are just sitting down and resting all the time kind of makes me feel lazy and i feel

like i gotta sit down and eat more but uh you know you guys have any advice for that for yeah small guys out there 100 i i actually can help you out with that one because, I mean, you're watching them on camera and I have to watch them in person all day, every day, and it can be extremely frustrating. Yeah, but really, dude, it always will come back to your diet if you're trying to gain, in my opinion, because that's the one thing that I thought I was eating, like, literally as much as I could.

Like, I can't breathe. And then in SEMA, sorry, bad choice of words. I didn't mean that. I thought that's what you're laughing at. Um, and then in SEMA was like, no, let's track your macros. Let's make sure you're all good. And then when I started doing that, I realized that I know not only was I not getting in enough protein, but I just simply wasn't getting enough calories period.

So, um, yeah, that was my problem. Only was I not getting in enough protein, but I just simply wasn't getting enough calories, period. Yeah, that was my problem when I was first starting out. I went from 140 and I was lean and doing vegan stuff to pure bulking and eating until failure. And I shot up to 155. My calves got bigger. My chest got bigger. Then I shot up to 175 when I started eating fast food again. There you go.

Yeah. And that was it for me. When I got I got to Recon, I was like fucking carbs like crazy, you know? And then when I got out of Recon, I started eating carbs, but I got lazy. And then I got away from carbs, so I started getting big. And now I'm just scared of food again. Check out... You get scared of food. You feel weird when you get full at night.

You know, you go exercise again. You get sore. Just get, you know, you get afraid of being big again you know i fear of getting what i want check out the stuff from stan the rhino efforting you know and check out the vertical diet a lot of great information in there it's going to be your sleep obviously your training is going to be a good signal to get bigger as well so the style of training that you do is going to be important but you got to get your sleep you got to get your nutrition in and uh nobody should really be thinking and I know that people fall into some eating

disorders, but there should never be a scenario where that you think that any kind of food is going to make you fat. We what we know is that bad behaviors over a long period of time, they can contribute to you gaining body fat. But a piece of cheesecake or ice cream or pizza, those things won't make you fat necessarily, especially when you just have, you know, one of them or you have it occasionally. And also, just because you're not fasting for the day, that won't make you fat. Carbohydrates won't make you fat. So try to unwrap your brain around that. And when you're getting big, it's 100% okay to gain body fat.

I think Stan... Right, because I had a six-pack, but I had a big gut when I was 174. And my cousin kind of gave me crap for it. He's like, you think you're buff, but you got a gut. But I was bloated, you know, from all the MREs and everything else, too. So, you know, you kind of got to get that mental fortitude as well, like you're saying, I think. I think that's great advice. You've got to get that mental fortitude as well, like you're saying, I think.

I think that's great advice. And also, if tracking makes you a little bit anxious, because some people, when they track and they see it, it makes them anxious, Stan's Vertical Diet is really dope because it gives you concepts in terms of eating. So that once you kind of set it, you don't have to track it anymore. You could just add more rest to it. Right, because I have an identical twin brother who was an Army Ranger, and he had the same thing happen. He got injured and he got out. We're identical twins. Me and him are in the same place physically.

We're both unmotivated. Both have had success and now have had failure, both out of working out. He used to be my gym partner, and just him being gone and me being in Missouri now and him being in California, and I'm moving to Texas next month. Hopefully when I move to Texas next month, I want to find a weightlifting Olympic-style gym where I can get in with some bigger guys who can help me shape my mindset and get my lifts back. First of all, follow Jocko Willink.

He can get anybody fired up, so make sure you're listening to him. And any time you see something from him, any time you see something from him yeah anytime you see something from him that fires you up then get outside and start running down the street and then in addition to that i would say you know check out uh atomic habits from james clear if you're not into books the way that i'm not into books then maybe you can check it out via like youtube and stuff like that so that will will give you, it's just habit forming.

You know, we talk about this quite a bit on this show is, yeah, it would be nice to have that burning motivation inside to wake up early and train. But if you're forcing yourself to do stuff, it most likely won't even be able to become a habit. And you can't work on habits that you haven't formed yet. So you want to be able to form a habit. It's going to be very slow and incremental things.

You're not going to just all of a sudden wake up at 4.30 and start training. You might instead just wake up a half an hour earlier than what you're used to currently. And over a period of time, you'll get used to that. So just think of your habits and your motivation as being incremental the same way that you think about gaining weight, gaining strength, getting leaner, strength training in general. Just think about it being incremental just like that, and that should help a lot. That's such great advice because, you know, you guys are putting out so much positivity. And for people trying to get in shape and trying not to be obese and trying to fix the world, it's part of the game. You know, you guys are putting strength and power into people's hands again.

And I love the message. My daughter just woke up, so I've got to pull dad, dude. Right on. But you guys are the best, and I'm going to keep listening. Dude, thank you so much for being the first caller, man. Sincerely appreciate that. Yeah, appreciate you and your brother, man. Thank you.

Good luck, bud. Thank you, guys. I can't wait to get my chest up and my reps up the next time I call in. I'll be saying I lift up in the 200 Club. There you go. Good for you, man. Catch you later. Have a great day.

Peace. Thanks, guys. Pause. One thing. So, PSA. Dude, why is he flexing on us? Do you notice this all the time? I'm wearing a loose shirt so I don't embarrass you.

Now, PSA to all the identical twins out there. When you start a conversation start it with that information okay because we had a guy you know chris griffin yeah yeah okay i didn't know he was a twin until two and a half years into our friendship yeah i didn't know that there's another identical you need to start with that because it's the whole population that's like the most important thing about you especially the identical thing because imagine imagine if i if i had a clone and i didn't tell you like oh yeah by the way i have a couple clones out there right like it's the same thing right but so so when when he told you that he had an identical twin did you start battling them like wait a second there's

that one time where i swear to god you're off that one day was that your brother he didn't even tell me i see i'm with chris in the gym i see this guy walk into the gym i look at him i look down i'm just like fuck i legit got creeped out because i'm like wait what and he's like yeah it's my brother like your bro your twin and he's like yeah it's it's it's nothing it's not nothing it's not nothing whatsoever at all i mean got someone that looks exactly like him running around my girls girls are twins, but they're not identical. It's one of their badges. It's always part of them.

Who do we got calling in now? I don't know. Who do we got? Hello? Yo, yo, this is Dom. What up? What's up, Dom? Dom.

Man, I feel like a Willy Wonka golden ticket winner. What's going on, guys? What's going down, man? Nothing. I'm just on my lunch break working from home. Just got out of a 10-minute sumo squat. Damn. Look at you.

Nice. You're dumb. What made you want to start doing the 10-minute squats? I actually got into uh in sema's fat loss program on facebook um little pilot thing he did and uh he had the smooth panther routines on there and i just started following him ever since and it's been helping a lot how's the fat loss been going? It's been good. Pretty steady.

Been pretty steady. About a pound, two pounds a week. That's great. I'm like sitting at 229 right now. Six foot two. Yeah. 22 years old. Good stuff, man.

Has the squats been helping? The 10-minute squat? Have you noticed any changes in mobility? Mobility, for sure. I've always had, like, tight hips and just doing the 10-minute squats and then the other different smooth panther routines. I didn't seem mad in his routine. Definitely helping a lot. What do you think you found to be effective from the fat loss information that he's putting out?

Was there something that you found to be simple to implement into your day-to-day that maybe you weren't catching from other people or something like that? Oh, for sure. I've been intermittent fasting for probably like two years on typically typically like at eight hours, anywhere between six to eight hour feeding window. And that's been helping a lot as well as just not eating carbs in my first meal. That's been helping a ton. Like, I mean, I still eat like 220 grams of carbs a day, but just not eating them in the first meal, that's helping a ton.

Let me ask you this, man. Since you've been, because have you always been working from home, or are you working from home because of quarantine? So I was always partially work from home, like 25 hours a week, but since quarantine now it's full time, which that's been a change too. Can't really go out. I'm used to working downtown. I'd go walk, walk around the city, go grab Starbucks, something like that. And now I'm just like

stuck in there and I was going crazy. I want to ask you this man, because I think you can help out a lot of people too, actually. Um, being at home, you said you've been losing like once, two pounds a week making progress, right? What do you think you've changed in terms of your lifestyle and quarantine that's been allowing you to progress? Well, I mean, I don't, um, I've been making a lot of my food, which I enjoy cooking. So that helps a ton. Um, not just going in getting something, you know, fast food or whatever, even though if it would fit the macros or whatever, cooking the, cooking it myself, that helps a ton. Cool.

Probably saves you a ton of money too, right? Oh, for sure. For sure. I think that's one of those underrated, uh, unseen things where if you can actually get people to start making their own meals, doing their own kind of food prep and everything and not, you know, and being able to have be prepared for things and not having to stop at wherever to go ahead and pick up anything, even if it does fit your macros or whatever your diet in general. I think, you know, if we can get people to do that for a month, I mean, the amount of

savings is just insane. How have you controlled yourself, you know, sitting inside your home with the food, you know, just being a couple steps away at all times. Yeah, it's definitely tough. I mean, I go grocery shopping biweekly or once every two weeks. So I just have to have my girl hide the protein bars, like put these in a separate closet. The person will need once a day, twice a day if I need it.

But, like, yeah, yeah i mean i have her hide hide the stuff so i think that go and find it i always think i always look uh think back to all those the older videos of people who are doing kind of the diet coaching stuff and they're like the first thing you got to do is throw out everything in your you know in your cupboards people are like come on man and i think think in this case, people are really figuring out, like, if you keep fresh food in there, it's perishable. And then you can't eat a bunch of just crap. But, I mean, if you're a freezer stock full of ice cream or you're a cupboard stock full of chips, pretzels, whatever, you know, whatever your vice is, you're going to get over there. But, I mean, again, kind of cooking for yourself, you don't have enough, you don't have room to kind of keep all that other stuff there.

And, you know, that's almost just another happy accident where if you're, you know, cooking for yourself, it's perishable, it's good food. And therefore, you know, the, you know, you're going to look better, feel better, you know, pocketbooks feeling better as well. And then, you know, mentally it's just much easier because this is just what I have to eat and I kind of have to eat this or it goes bad. And, you know, if you're only shopping, you know, once every two weeks, you got to have things planned out.

So I think, you know, I mean, you're doing a great job, dude. And I mean, you're, you are a really nice example for everybody else to, to know that, you know, a little bit of discipline, especially in a, in the climate that we're in, you know, really goes a long way and you can make some amazing progress. So that's awesome, man. Tom, thanks for calling in, man. You're off the team. Let's get the next call.

See you later, homie. Peace. Take care. All right. That was an embarrassing thing for me in the past though, man. Like I used to eat out a lot and I used to spend a disgusting amount of money out on food. Like it, but did, so while you were doing that, you're like, Oh, I'm making good choices,

whatever. It's still good. You know, whether you're like, oh, I'm making good choices, whatever. It's still good. You know, whether you were in a line or something. I eat clean, bro. But I mean, when, when was it, how long were you doing your own stuff before you realized like, wow, I'm saving $500 a week or whatever it is. How long did you have? So if we were to say like, hey hey if you just make your own food for

two weeks a month when did it kind of hit for you where you're like oh crap after the first week really because i downloaded how much were you eating um i downloaded this app called mint it was like three or four years ago to track like my spending yeah and then the first week i was like because i didn't pay attention to it so i was like 272 dollars this week fuck so then the next week i just i just bought groceries and i ate at home i was just like wow this is why i can have some money in my bank account after the month right real talk no I think people need to hear that, though. I mean, a week is, that's a little excessive. I would have given it two weeks, but I mean. First week.

Good for you. All right, who do we got on the line? What's up, guys? It's the Boar. Hey. Hey. Hey, this thing actually works. Yeah, I'm just calling in to make sure everything's working right.

You got this thing going? Yeah, we got it cranking. It seems like it's working just fine. Only six prank calls so far. So, you know, that's about average, right? Amazing. What's going on over there? We got my boy Jesse Burdick in the house today, podcasting with him.

We got a bunch of stuff to film and shoot today. And so, yeah, just another normal day of work. Well, cool. I'll be in there a little bit later to come in and do a little lifting. You know, got to get some lifting on. Show us how to lift. After a long hiatus, you know? Yep. All right. Well, good to hear from you. You're off the team, Boar. Catch you later. See you, Chris. Later. That was amazing. So for anybody that's this uh not live uh please do actually text 206

737-7369 and the next time we do a live call-in show you guys will get notified so that way you you won't miss another opportunity uh oh we got a couple people more more a couple more people on the line you guys ready hey that's Sure. Yeah, let's do it. Caller, where are you from? Hello? Hello? Hello? Hi, this is Dave from upstate New York.

Dave, what's going down? What's up, Dave? Poughkeepsie. Way farther upstate. Way farther upstate. Yeah, like actually upstate. But anything out of New York City is upstate. What's going down, man? Hey, guys.

Hey, guys. I didn't know if you guys touched on the whole CrossFit robe re-boxing yet. Yeah, I think we're going to save that for a future episode as we gather more information. But, yeah, CrossFit has had some interesting tweets as of late, and they're really paying a price for it. But yeah, we'll talk about it in a future podcast when we gather more information. Don't want to jump to too many conclusions

and say a bunch of wrong stuff that we have to maybe later go back and correct and stuff like that. So thank you for calling in. You got any other questions? Why, why we got you on the horn here? You got any other questions? Uh,

yeah, actually one other thing. So I've been trying to work toward a 405 pound bench press and I'm at 365 and I've kind of stalled out for the last few months. What kind of, uh, training are you doing at the moment? Actually, I was doing the stronger in 30 thing to get, like I keep repeating it, all the

way to get to about 335, and then I started adding some more sticking point things. I'm just wondering if adding more days for the week or something. I've had a lot of success with bench pressing twice a week and with utilizing the conjugate system. You might want to check out my book, Jacked and Tan. You might want to check out a book called 531, which I think is one of the greatest books ever written on the topic of getting stronger because it's very simple, but yet extremely effective. But basically what I would do is I'd have one day a week that was heavy and one day a week that was for speed. And I'll have Jesse talk about it a

little bit more, but it was, you know, the West side barbell methods, a lot of stuff. There's a lot of options online where you can look up stuff for free. You can also follow along at markbell.com where we utilize the conjugate system as programmed by Jesse Burdick. So Jesse can fill you in a little bit more on what that system looks like. You know, every answer to everyone's question, the true answer is it depends. So, I mean, if you've been following the Stronger in 30, that's awesome. If you keep repeating it, there's nothing necessarily bad about that. What I would do if you plan to continue to repeat that, opposed to adding more days or something along those lines, what I would do is think about trying to change up some of the exercises and some of the prescribed sets and reps. And one of if we call that, you know, a block, you know, the next kind of 30 is stronger in 30 day.

You really focus on dropping all your percentages down and really working on a ton of volume. And then maybe the next one, if you again, you're going to repeat it. You start pushing, you know, pushing those percentages up, lowering overall volume down a little bit more and starting to try and push, push, push. You know, the the cool thing about, you know, this industry is that everything works. And the shitty thing about this industry is that everything works. So, you know, it's about all about the synchronicity and the sequencing of things. So I think if you come in, it seems like you're hitting a spot and, you know, you're looking to try and gain that last little 10% to kind of get over 400. I think you got to go back down.

I think you'd probably find out that, you know, because of what you're saying, you want to do more days. I would think because you're saying that your volume is a little bit lower because your intensity has been a little bit higher because the stronger for 30 is a more intensive. Well, higher intensity opposed to kind of volume side of program. So I would work on maybe the next 30 days or so next four weeks, however you kind of however makes sense in your mind, work on building up your volume a little bit, and then you can kind of creep your way back up. And hopefully, you know, you're going to be able to gain, you know, and what you got to realize is, you know, a gain of two or 3% over a couple months is, you know, especially when you're, you know, starting to approach those

numbers of, you know, especially a 400, you know, that that's a very significant jump. A 10% jump in a month is, you know, those are newbie gains and it sounds like you're probably past those. So, you know, you got to start being okay with those two to three or maybe a 5% kind of gain. If we do, you know, bring your volume back up. Just keep in mind to people train too heavy. People are more guilty of training too heavy than they are training too light. And that's one of the reasons why Jim Wendler's book was so successful, is he tries to drill that into your head over and over and over and over again,

but people still miss the point when they try to 5-3-1 program and they end up going a little bit too heavy. Make sure you're lifting the weights properly. That is a massively important note. So if you're maxing out every week, you know, because you're trying to stronger in 30 days, because it's a, it's a short, it's a shotgun approach to getting stronger. It'd be time to move into something a little different where you're using a little bit lighter weights. And like Jesse was saying, pump up the volume a little bit one other note real quick i have a question for you guys along with that because i've noticed that there's a lot of people who they're training they're training

they're training and you'll ask them when's the last time you took a deload just one week sure and it's been like uh i don't remember the last time i've done that right so some people i don't know if this is your case and you can answer this question but a lot of people maybe need to take one sometimes even three to four weeks with just lower volume to back off yeah so they can start progressing again i've noticed that that happens to a lot of people so i mean has that happened to you have you taken a deload in a while or no i honestly haven't taken a deload in like eight months oh my god it'd be good to just you know flat out do some bodybuilding for, you know, in the next two, three weeks. And honestly, maybe even like, dude, I don't know if you've been benching this whole time,

but I find it really effective to like take out the bench totally and switch to maybe like a close grip bench press or an incline bench press overhead press overhead. So, I mean, yeah, change those exercises up, move those around. And hopefully, you know, when you do kind of go forward, have the thought process of trying to, you know, I think the conjugate system is, is amazing because it almost builds in deloads per week, uh, because it's not allowing you to go max out two or three times, you know, or four times a week, it's going to be one heavy, one light, one heavy, one light, and you can recover from that. So, um, yeah, I think I think we did really good of kind of dissecting that, I think. That was actually really kind of fairly impressive.

Pat ourselves on the back there. So I agree with Nsema. I think you need to kind of take a week to a month, focus on lowering the weights, pump up that volume a little bit, go chase the pump dragon for a while, and then you can come back. Pump the magic dragon. There you go. That's a T-shirt pump the magic dragon there you go that's a t-shirt yeah it's a sick song that's totally a t-shirt right we'll send you awesome thanks a lot

man thank you okay that was great i think uh uh can we i know we can't go back to the caller in texas i think um it if you're still listening it was was a Jay Johnson. So he's moving to Texas or whatever it was, whoever the guy called in, moving to Texas. I think, um, you know, really try and reach out, find some, if you know, if you're having trouble finding a gym, that's going to have other lifters in there that you need that motivation, you can feel free to contact me or someone else, you know, on this podcast, you, we have a list of gyms and a list of people and contacts that you can kind of reach out to and, um, you know, kind of help you build that in, help you walk into a gym and, you know, you, you don't necessarily have to be the weakest guy in the room, but to know that there's someone else out there who has already done what you've done and can kind of help you. Uh, and you can

kind of just fall on their footsteps for a while. That really makes a big difference. So, you know, if, if we can help that guy out, I'm kind of meant to say that but i forgot all right here we go another one what's your name and where are you calling from hey this is russ drake and i'm calling from fargo north dakota there he is so uh just a little quick background russ has been following the podcast for a long time super jacked i think he's like 47 years old. Awesome dude. He's always supporting us. 49. There you go. Russ. So he's always supported the show. This is an awesome opportunity to talk to a long time listener. So thanks for taking advantage. Russ, what you up to?

Actually, I just left the gym. Just got done deadlifting. How was it it was excellent it's always awesome in fact i kind of just brought him back because over the last year started having some hip issues and i kind of attributed it to uh to the deadlift but here it turns out it really wasn't the deadlift it was the way i was gripping the bar i was always gripping the bar overhand underhand the same way and it was causing my body basically to be out of alignment sure yeah it's kind of helicoptering a little bit have you are you just using straps or did you switch to a hook grip or how did you kind of remedy that situation basically it just went back and started using just a straight overhand grip

and went really really light over the course the last couple months and it just uh i don't know it seemed to alleviate the problem that's awesome man i think uh you know we always get the question of you know how do you how do you pick which hand which is over which is under it's kind of going to always come back to like whatever's comfortable but i do think also very similar to using a belt i think way too many people start with a switch grip and with their belt on. And, you know, I, you know, I would never recommend doing that or using that until 70 or 80% where you switch your grip. And then also when you throw a belt on or something along those lines, because it can, you know, it inherently it shouldn't, but it can, when

overused over time and, you know, uh, over so many reps, it can start to lead to poor muscle patterns and kind of shitty posture and everything along those lines. And I think you did a great job in kind of dissecting the problem and kind of coming up with a really good solution. And I would encourage you to try and keep using that overhand grip until you get to a the, your grip is starting to affect your form in the deadlift. And then you can either switch to whether it's hook grip straps and, or that over under, because you're probably not going to be doing a ton of volume over 80%, you know, per workout.

So yeah, good for you, man. That's awesome. No, absolutely. And the funny thing about it is taking the deadlifts out of my life for a little while made me realize how much i actually love them and what a benefit they are to your entire

body just completely love them yeah and sometimes you know what you've done in in your past will sometimes lead to a lot of muscle imbalances you know something like uh something like um you know collegiate style wrestling you know like uh where you're crouched over and you always have the same foot forward all the time. Jesse actually worked with an athlete that squatted over 1,000 pounds, but he had some major hamstring imbalances because he used to be on a skateboard all the time. So he had one giant leg. He had one giant hamstring,

and he ended up having a lot of hip issues and stuff like that. One glute was real developed, and the other side, there was nothing there, right? Yeah, that's one of those moments in my career where it's definitely a left turn where you've got to start asking people, hey, what do you do for a living? And I worked in the commercial sector for a long time. So, you know, I was dealing with a lot of people who were just kind of sitting down. So you start to kind of categorize and put these people in these, you know, in these patterns of what they're going to do. And then when you see a weird pattern and then you look at someone and you're like, how did you get this way? And then you, so, I mean. I've been on a rowing team and they've been on the one side the whole time.

And I mean, it's, it's so easy to pass over and not really deal with. That's why, again, kind of the whole in-person training, you know, makes so much, because if you just have casual conversation with people and you figure out all this other stuff, you know, that was, that was Andy. And then I also remember a client that I had who I figured out was having a really hard time, like, sumo deadlifting. And she was moving so odd. And I was like, what did you used to do for a sport, like, as a kid? She's like, oh, I was a ballet dancer. And I was like, oh, dude, I know how to teach you how to. It's just a plie with your kind of feet a little bit different.

You push your butt back. And then immediately her deadlift went from 135 to, like, 330 pounds. I'm like, oh, shit. So, I mean, it's one of those things where, you know, if you can take a step back Her deadlift went from 135 to 330 pounds. I'm like, oh, shit. It's one of those things where if you can take a step back and look at things as a whole and try and understand how did you get to where you are and start thinking about, oh, it's not a problem. This is just a pattern. Then you can figure those patterns out eventually. It may take a while, but with some good thought processes in it you can you can kind of dissect it and figure it out so um yeah those are always uh well andy was just a weird dude anyways but um that was that was one

of those things that was just a total head shake and it you know i'd seen him four to five times a week for years before I had really noticed that his right glute was just not there. And he had one ass cheek. Yeah, you're not normally checking these guys' asses, right? Not as much as I should be, should have been. So, yeah, those are kind of finding those huge inconsistencies in people's bodies and movement patterns is always fascinating. Russ, you got any questions for us while we got you on the horn here? Just how are you guys doing over there?

We're doing great, man. And I see you comment. Yeah. I see you commenting on, you know, all the posts and stuff like that. Yeah.

We're doing really good. We're just in here creating more content. How long has the gym's been back open up in North Dakota? Do you guys ever, did you have much of a close? Actually, we did. We were 100% closed down in North Dakota and Minnesota. And we have, I guess for us, we have both of our pro shops, our stores are in the gyms.

So when the gyms closed down, our stores shut down, and pretty much everything got completely shut off. And that was for about, I would say, four months, and we've been back open for about two weeks. Wow. Well, I'm sure you're pumped to be back, too. We are, but what I'm really more pumped for is when you guys start talking about things like how lifting can bring us together, it takes me back to being a young guy when you're in the gym, and there was so much camaraderie, and it, gosh, with all the, everything that's going on today, I just really feel kind of like you guys that that camaraderie is needed. So almost like

Mark says, we can lift through it. When you take a look around at all this, I wish more people would pay attention to their health, get into the gym, start talking to each other. And I don't know, maybe alleviate some of these problems, not everything, obviously, but what are your guys' thoughts on that? I couldn't agree with you more, man. I think more than ever, people need to get into the gym, not necessarily just to see other people, but you know, so many people don't understand of what a mental stress relief, uh, lifting is. And, you know, I would never consider myself, um, anti people, but you know, I, at the end of the day, you know, I would never consider myself, um, anti people, but, you know, I, at the end of the day, you know, I just don't, I don't want to talk to anybody, but, you know,

now that I haven't seen, you know, I see a couple hundred people a day normally, you know, I don't see those people and it's, you know, it has had a weird effect on, you know, kind of my mental health side of things. And I think, you know, a lot of other people are kind of struggling with the same thing and, you know, being able just to even just get out of your house and even, you know, break a sweat and just feel good. It's, it's, it's difficult to kind of replace that because oftentimes you really don't even know that it's there and you don't miss it until it's gone. And it's very hard for people to figure out, but I couldn't agree with you more. I think that more than ever, you know, we need these gyms open and we're struggling with that in California, you know, specifically in the Bay Area where they are not open.

And I think, you know, I think it's not necessarily just a physical issue. You know, it's an emotional and a mental health issue, too. And I hopefully maybe things like the gym and working out will, you know, carry a little bit more weight in the future and people understand how important it is. Yeah, Russ, you bring up a great point. I think people, just being involved in your community. For me, I'm not overly involved in my community. I'm not necessarily going to a church and stuff like that. I'm not part of a board or anything of that nature.

But my one like communal service is going to a gym and having a gym that's free. And in addition to that, you know, just like going on like walks all the time and like I'm always walking around the community. So I'm very aware of, you know, I run into certain UPS workers and FedEx people and things like that. And so I think what you're bringing up and, you know, the idea of like lift through it, it's not necessarily just a lifting as much as I am obsessed with lifting and love lifting. It's just being a part of your community. And I think everyone just needs to figure out a way, some sort of way to be part of their community or a community. It doesn't really matter how you figure it out.

Maybe you really dig like rock climbing or maybe you really like going on a hike or maybe like cycling or something. But I've seen a lot of people out, you know, riding their bikes and doing different things. And some people were really almost built for this quarantine type stuff. They just they didn't have to really switch their plans up because they didn't maybe physically go to a gym. You know, and a gym wasn't it wasn't something that they kind of needed for their, you know, quote unquote community service. But other people that were going to church and were leaning on going to restaurants. Or what about the restaurant owners that love, they love food, but it's not because they love food, it's because they love serving people the food

and seeing the reaction to how they cook the food. I mean, these people, like, this is their life. This is like what they, it's their thing. You know, they love it and they love, you know, it's not just that they love pizza, because we all love pizza, but they love serving, version of what they cooked up, and they love seeing the reaction. I mean, you can boil it down. They love making people happy. 100%.

And I mean, to have that taken away from you is, I mean, it's heart-wrenching. It's awful. Yeah, Russ. Oh, absolutely. I was just going to say, thank you so much, man. You've been a loyal listener. We sincerely appreciate that. There's no way we to say, thank you so much, man. You've been a loyal listener. We sincerely appreciate that. There's no way we could ever really thank you enough for that.

But I just want you to know that we will be doing this again in the future. So when you do see the call-in show pop up, please take advantage because we absolutely love talking to you today, man. Absolutely. I'm going to come live with you guys someday. Even better. Get ready for that. Yeah, dude. We'll catch you later, man. Thank you. You have to have a good with you guys someday. Even better. Get ready for that. Yeah, dude. We'll catch you later, man.

Thank you. You have to have a good day, guys. You too, Russ. All right, let's take this one home. Andrew, you want to take us on out of here? Absolutely. So, again, thank you, everybody, for checking out today's first-ever call-in show. For those of you guys – oh, hold on.

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