Mark Bell's Power Project - EP. 400 - Obtain More Haters ft. Grant Cardone

Episode Date: June 17, 2020

Grant Cardone is a financial expert, the CEO of Cardone Capital, international speaker, entrepreneur and best-selling author of “The 10X Rule”, and creator of 21 different best selling business programs. He is also the founder of the 10X Movement and the 10X Growth Conference, and Grant Cardone TV. Subscribe to the Podcast on on Platforms! ➢ https://lnk.to/PowerProjectPodcast Support the show by visiting our sponsors! ➢Piedmontese Beef: https://www.piedmontese.com/ Use Code "POWERPROJECT" at checkout for 25% off your order plus FREE 2-Day Shipping on orders of $99 ➢Icon Meals: http://iconmeals.com/ Use Code "POWERPROJECT" for 10% off ➢Sling Shot: https://markbellslingshot.com/ Enter Discount code, "POWERPROJECT" at checkout and receive 15% off all Sling Shots Follow Mark Bell's Power Project Podcast ➢ Insta: https://www.instagram.com/markbellspowerproject ➢ https://www.facebook.com/markbellspowerproject ➢ Twitter: https://twitter.com/mbpowerproject ➢ LinkedIn:https://www.linkedin.com/in/powerproject/ ➢ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/markbellspowerproject ➢TikTok: http://bit.ly/pptiktok FOLLOW Mark Bell ➢ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/marksmellybell ➢ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/MarkBellSuperTraining ➢ Twitter: https://twitter.com/marksmellybell ➢ Snapchat: marksmellybell ➢Mark Bell's Daily Workouts, Nutrition and More: https://www.markbell.com/ Follow Nsima Inyang ➢ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/nsimainyang/ Podcast Produced by Andrew Zaragoza ➢ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/iamandrewz #PowerProject #Podcast #MarkBell

Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to Mark Bell's Power Project podcast, hosted by Mark Bell, co-hosted by Nseema Iyeng and myself, Andrew Zaragoza. This episode was recorded on June 16th, and it is with the man, Grant Cardone. We are really excited to finally have Grant on. He and Mark have been going back and forth for a long time now, so it's really cool to finally get Grant on. And today we talked a lot, I mean, I had some serious questions about his theories on don't live in the house that you own. Instead, you should rent. It kind of goes against everything

that I've ever known. But then again, after talking to Robert Kiyosaki, I actually don't know much about finances anyways, because it's not taught to us, right? So it was really cool getting his views and his theory behind all of that. And it makes a lot of sense. So, I'm really excited for you guys to check out today's episode. We also talked about his drug addictions early on and how he was able to overcome those. And then Mark straight up asked him like, hey, how can I make more money? A really informative episode, a lot of value in today's episode. I hope you guys appreciate it. I know we did. So, thank you again, Grant, for taking. I hope you guys appreciate it. I know we did.

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Yeah. It should be really cool to ask him questions about credit cards, cars, houses, what to do with all these things, what to buy, what to rent. Because I know he doesn't seem like he's a fan of buying a house. But most people, I mean, traditionally, people are like, that's the whole thing that you need to do when you're an adult. Buy a house. They say it's a great investment. But most people, I don't think, really ever own their house. Because it's like you got to pay it off

forever yeah for a long ass time freaking 30 year loans and all of this it's like yeah and usually don't pay it off within that time period anyway yeah and imagine if you had a couple of kids you know you might live in a bigger home for a while and then there's there's really no reason to live in a bigger house uh you know when when it's eventually just you and your wife, right? So all that's kind of interesting, too, because how long would you live in a bigger house for anyway? I don't know. So it'd be good to talk to him about it and see what makes the most sense. I know he's a huge fan of real estate, though.

So I don't think he's a huge fan of buying a home for yourself, i think he's a huge fan of uh buying other homes that could house other people potentially i'm a huge fan of certified piedmontese how about you guys ah yeah absolutely i had uh i had three burgers yesterday uh on my way to sushi. I stopped at home and had three of the Piedmontese burgers. Because I know, like, I love sushi. But, like, it's usually, you can fill up on sushi, but then five seconds later, you're still hungry. So, I wanted to go in there with some of that protein. So, I smashed three of their burgers.

They got, their burgers are amazing. I know we talk them up all the time, but're damn good i'm actually gonna make some of those today this is gonna be the first time i think i'm gonna make their burgers with no bun i know you've been going the bunless route right yeah but today i'm just gonna do um patty cheese patty cheese patty yeah you'll like it dude cheese too some ketchup just barbecue sauce must be something in there because i had um i had two yesterday two of the bigger patties i kept trying to give stephanie more because like i seen she had a big old salad and i'm like hey how about a little bit more protein huh and you know of course they're so big though she can get through like half of one

and then that's it i never understand understand that. Yeah, me neither. Like you're still an adult. You like one. Well, she is little, but. She is. But. Tell her to man up. I know, right?

Let's go, Steph. Come on. I don't, I think they're like quarter pound, the big ones. I'm not sure. Whatever they are, those ones are actually pretty damn filling. But they're, again, they're on an H&L. They taste different. In my opinion, they taste a little bit different.

Definitely use the smoker for sure, but you tried it out of the air fryer. How did that come out? It was pretty decent. It was surprisingly good. Some people cook burgers in the oven sometimes. Yeah, I've never done that. Yeah, sounds weird, but it's still kind of the same. I mean, the air fryer is similar. Yeah. Anyway. Alright, for but it's still kind of the same. I mean, air fire is similar. Yeah. So.

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And then yesterday, I put some cheese on the burger along with some garlic salt. And that was amazing. But it's just so simple. You ain't got to do much to those burgers to make them yummy. Yeah. They're definitely juicy. Very juicy. But yeah, I haven't eaten one steak

from them in a long time it's always two steaks two in a row it's just just like two at the same time you're so fat just overachieving yeah i don't know what kind of sushi you're eating where you don't get full but well no i i did get i mean i do get full on it but then like i don't know why i think a little while later, I'm usually kind of hungry. Oh, yeah. Okay. I kind of knew going in, getting that protein. I try not to eat too many of the rolls.

You know, I try not to have too much of the sauce and all the other stuff on there. I try to be good with it, but you know. It's literally a 40-roll minimum for me, or 40, you know, little. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, you got to have, yeah. I mean, the rice alone will catch up with you but i think you know i think uh sushi i think a lot of times people get hungry after sushi because they'll say like oh you don't doesn't seem like you're very satiated and i think it just has to do with the speed at which you eat it i think you just eat it fast

you can't eat it slow yeah that that fish too it just goes down easy there a lot of, it's not like eating a steak or a piece of chicken breast. You got to really bite that shit. Yeah. Chew it up a lot. What was the rolls that you had ordered for us at McCuny's that one time? I mean, that was when, like, I had no, like, I was like, no, I don't eat sushi. And Mark's like, no, just try this. I don't remember what it was, but that changed the game for me.

I don't remember, but, you know, Makuni is amazing. That place is fucking awesome. A lot of times we get Pimp My Rolls really good. But, you know, you need to, like, know, like, when someone's new to trying to have sushi, rolls are a really good place to start. new to trying to have sushi rolls are a really good place to start because uh especially i usually get them with a soy wrap rather than the um i don't like the seaweed because it's like i don't know it's just it doesn't fit in there very good it's like hard to pull it apart like it's hard to chew it so i usually just get it with something a different uh different style of wrap but anyway yeah you got to get you know getting people used to uh sushi you got to start

out with something really benign like a spicy tuna roll or something like that you want to try to stay away from the fishier stuff yes don't don't get somebody some like raw eel or something it's not going to go over well you're gonna have a tough time even just the look of it right yeah yeah just the look of it will scare you away is grant how long till we get grant on uh he should be coming on in a couple of minutes momentarily momentarily yeah i'm really excited for this one i remember um i listened to his audiobook back in i think it was 2014 or 15 yeah it's been a bit i should go through it again because i remember after i listened to that book i really really liked it that 10x rule book it was really really damn good and then yeah he runs

crazy events i think he might have sold out like dallas stadium or whatever where the cowboys play yeah he's like tony robbins kevin hart yeah yeah he gets big people at his events it's wild it's crazy he's a beast so what is the 10x it's. He's a beast. So what is the 10X rule? Is that what he said? Yeah, the 10X rule. I mean, I listened to it for like five years. But from what I remember, the book is just about doing certain things to speed up the growth of your business in a much shorter amount of time. So there are a lot of really good concepts in that book, like figuring out why.

Pretty much, I think, one of the primary questions of the book is something that you want to do 10 years from now. How can you do that a year from now? And then it gives you ways of thinking in terms of, you know, what you do. So you can instead of like having that be a 10 year goal that that should be a goal you can do in like one or two years. He talks a lot about how people can do a lot more than what they're currently doing. Yeah, you can make a lot more than what they're currently doing how yeah you can make a lot more money um you know he said some people they don't uh they don't uh give money away to charity he's like when why don't they do that he said because they just don't earn enough they don't expand enough they don't grow enough they don't work enough they don't

you know so he's really about adding you you know, more and more to your plate, probably until you explode. But he also talked about like working for 18 hour days for 30 years straight, you know, just being completely obsessed with it. So he's somebody that's not afraid to get his hands dirty. Yeah. How would somebody, well, I guess somebody with the family wouldn't be able to balance that then. Yeah, it's a good question really good good good question for him you know it all depends on your dynamic though too certain people with families like if there's someone who has to work 18 hours

sometimes the family is cognizant of that you know i think his wife's very involved so i think that uh that's how that works you know i think a lot of times i think people you know someone like kevin hart when he was on uh joan, he talked a lot about that, how he's not he's not around enough. And even like he wasn't happy with the fact he wasn't around as much as he wanted to be. And he talked about how to balance it out. And then he, you know, with covid and those different things kind of helped him recognize that you know he's really just hustling and shuffling everybody around but he could probably do it in a slightly better way yeah because he would travel and he'd like bring the kids with him and he was like well let's just

spend time with the kids but then he's still working and yeah makes you wonder though like can't be in two places at once could you do that like could he have done that in a way without like, could he be where he is right now without all those years of having to kind of neglect a little bit for that? Who knows? I think that you have to say yes a lot, you know, when you're, when you're newer. 14 shows in like six days or something or seven days doing two shows every day for like a whole week

or something like that. I mean that's that's got to crush you. Yeah. That's got to be tough. Well they kept selling out so he's like yeah add another show. Add another one. They keep selling out. That was a really great episode by the way. Thanks for the recommendation. I definitely loved the fact that he was you you know, saying like, oh, we got to go, whatever, we'll be off three days and then go work three months or whatever he said.

Like, and then I realized like, wait, that's not the way to do it. You know, like kind of, well, the accident and stuff made him have a different perspective. So, but I think you're right i think you do need to go through that process of like crushing it for you know sacrificing a lot to be able to get over that hump to be like okay i actually can kind of downshift a little bit and still keep uh progressing the other thing is too if you're a good parent your kids shouldn't need you as much either so especially if your children are older you know if're, if they're still like under the age of five, then it kind of sucks because you don't need to necessarily

be there because they might not even remember, but you need to be there because they'll remember, you know, they might not like physically remember, like you weren't there for me when I was five, but like, there'll be, there'll be some little chunk of neglect in their head. Probably. Yeah. That you don't want to, you don't want to test those waters. Dang. Kids. Yeah. They're tough, man.

Grant Cardone stays in good shape too. He does. He's actually really jacked. Yeah. He stays, he stays fit. He's got some biceps on him. I mean, he stays, stays lean. I saw like during, during quarantine and stuff he was like doing some pull-ups and things like that so he's a pro baseball player yeah that's that's

something that surprised me i didn't realize that like and they're in shape those guys are in crazy shape so i wonder does he have kids he does yeah he has uh he has at least two kids i think i'm not sure if he's got more than that but yeah trying yeah, trying to figure out, you know, your work, you know, that's always a question people have the work life balance. every time you go somewhere and you do so from the time they're really little. And yes, you might be away. And when you go to a trip to Miami or something like that and you're having a good time with the family, that there might be a couple of days that you're the one person that has to bow out here and there. But I think the family probably understands. I would say that your kids, you know, might get resentful at certain ages, but then they'll

also come back down to earth and just be like, well, dad was out there. You know, that's why we have all this, all this opportunity. And that's why we have all these cool things. Yeah. I wonder if like, even like when you mentioned the work-life balance thing, I wonder if like, even like when you mentioned the work life balance thing, I wonder if for Grant, cause he obviously works a lot, but is, you know, some people,

what they do is kind of enjoyable to them. So I wonder if he looks at it like, you know, fricking exhausting work or, I mean, it's obviously a lot and obviously makes him tired, but does he enjoy what he does so much that it counteracts like the amount of, just the amount of work that he has to do on a day to day basis.

Yeah. I think he just loves, uh, being successful. He loves being able to, and I think he judges that by how he's able to multiply things. You know, I think I heard him talk about how he didn't have any money when he was like

25. Cause for like 10 years he was addicted to drugs and then uh he shifted gears and started working and then he at like 45 he was worth like 10 15 million dollars or something like that and he got kind of complacent he was like i i'm doing shit i'm doing way better than everybody else you know so he just kind of chilled chilled there for a little while and then he just realized oh i could do way more than this and he got around other people that were doing more than him yeah and he was like how are they doing more than me like i'm doing pretty good and then he realized they just they're just wanting it they're working for it yeah that always like interests me as well you

know like when i see you it's like okay yeah you've you've made it we'll say but then you're still pushing forward and it's like at what point do you like kind of i don't know take a take a seat and look around and be like damn that was pretty cool you know and then so someone like grant to be in a a millionaire to be like shit i need to work a little bit harder it's like damn i mean i guess that's kind of what separates you know those people from everybody else. But, you know, because like you hear people about like even when it comes to a diet, you know, like when do I get that cheat day? Or like when do I get to.

Yeah, your diet is never over. So I guess that makes. Yeah. Business is an infinite game. And so is social media. And that's a, you know, I think I think that people need to recognize when they're on social media. Like, what is the end game of this? There's not one.

You know, there's not an end game to it. It goes on forever. Yeah. And when you recognize that, then maybe you can ease up on how much time you spend on there. Since you can recognize, like, hey, this is probably going to go on for the next decade or so. At least, I mean, it will come and go. You know, come and go in different waves. and there'll be different forms of social media. But the same thing with your business, just knowing that your business is going to be around like, hey, let's just make this business like, you know, we're coming up on a 10th year anniversary of Slingshot. Like, let's make this business something that's here for a long time.

And when the people come in here and we have employees in here, let's treat them well. Let's treat them at least well enough to where they're not like always looking around being like, I need to get the hell out of here. You know, pay people well enough, treat people well enough. We try to allow people to be kind of like their own entrepreneurs within the facility. Sandro, yesterday when he was snapping some pictures, he was like, man, he goes, I just love working here. And the same thing happened with Carlos when he started. Both guys were like, eh, I think I want to be kind of part-time. I'm like, you're toast, buddy. Like, you don't even know. And you're here for two weeks. You're going to want to be here all the time because we just

have got some good peeps in here. And we try not try not to try not to hover over your work too much try to let you do your own thing yeah and part time would be so hard because there is so much going on like you're either like kind of like all in or you're in the way yeah so yeah but that's cool how did the shoot go it went great yeah it was my first time uh doing a shoot with him yeah and it went it went well. He's really good at what he does, man. I'm interested to see the... I was in there forever, though.

Those guys were taking up a lot of my time. Dang. It's like, shit, man. How many photos we got to take? I mean, didn't he get the point across that I'm a handsome son of a bitch with the first photo? I mean... Was your shirt on? Sometimes.

Sometimes. Okay. that's something that people most of the time the noobs got to learn is just take the shirt off and everything looks better take the shirt off on the first picture uh as long as you you uh chased the pump pump the magic dragon so you don't need an excuse in a photo shoot you don't need to be like oh my god it's hot no no no yeah sure just the shirt should come off the the excuse in a photo shoot. You don't need to be like, oh my God, it's hot. No, no, no. Take your shirt off. Just the shirt should come off. The excuse is the photo shoot. So you're just like, oh.

Yeah. Pants, optional, but frowned upon in certain districts. Kevin figured that part out yet myself, but. Tearaway pants. Yeah. That way you get a good photo. Adidas ones back in the day

they had like the snaps yeah remember the whole basketball teams still have those those full uniforms do they have the Tearaway Pants though because I've never seen

I haven't seen them do that in a very long time I haven't even really watched basketball but yeah Tearaway Pants are underrated they're always fun to see just like

but I mean if you have to be the if you're the uh the guy that has to snap them back into place though oh yeah that would be forever and then especially if they're basketball players there's those things are going to be forever long there's a lot of snapping that's a lot of snaps to do somebody's got some sore thumbs snapping those things together fingertips are all sore but yeah did you get some 10 minute walks in this morning mark i did actually i took a couple laps around davis and then uh took a lap around the building before i uh got into here talked to my chubby chubby little friend jesse burdick

and uh yeah it's always good to get those walks in. You know, when I don't get them in before I come here, I honestly just, I feel a little bit, like, more tired. Like, I feel like, you know, I don't feel as energetic, I guess. So, just even just getting out there for a little bit always seems to help. That's good. I agree with that. Yeah, I had to go see my boy Dan at Movement Matters. My back, you know yesterday like right before we got on the podcast it just like totally bent over yeah i don't know what happened

it just fuck so i went over there he did some work on me it felt better and then i went to uh stephanie's parents house for dinner and then that's when like it hit again i'm like dude what's going on and it was interesting because like you know they they care so they're like oh do you want to ice pack do you want you know uh like ibuprofen do you want this go lay down like if i lay down i'm never going to get back up again like i need to keep moving so like i walked as much as i could that felt better and then i started doing like a really really light like um what are they called uh like uh not the like 45 degree back raises or whatever but I'm just standing so with a little bit of

weight a little bit more weight then I started in super light deadlifts switch that up to doing uh lunges and I felt way better and it was just interesting because it's like wait your back hurts but why are you doing all these exercises i got an almost like a full like leg workout because i started doing squats and stuff did you work out before that happened to you yesterday no no maybe you just got to work out before you do other stuff yeah i mean i just it i it just was weird dude because like last week everything felt good we did some sprints and that kind of woke everything up yeah like i could feel like sore from that which is you know it's kind of a bummer like sprinting leads to my back hurting um but then i i got off a bench after doing uh just dumbbell

presses and that's really what tweaked it initially. But I was fine. And then all of a sudden, just like, oh, like I can't move. Yeah. Like I had the thought of like, dude, how am I going to do this podcast right now if I can't move? Like it was terrible. Yeah. No, exercise, bro. I was talking to somebody about this who does jujitsu the other day. Like every single, every time that maybe I didn't work out as much as i typically do or something maybe the volumes come

down because of jujitsu or something like that always a little tick or a little injury leads happens and it's like like i've realized that you know working out and lifting is just like it just helps you feel it helps your body feel better you might feel a little bit sore but you don't have the typical pain that most people have you know because a lot of people are walking around with hip pain uh constant knee pain constant back pain um and i'm not talking about you here i'm just talking about like the general population that was like oh my neck feels like this my back feels like this if you don't lift it's probably going to keep feeling like that yeah i just i don't know it was it was really frustrating but i'm just glad that i'm at a point right now where like i understand like i can't just do nothing about it you know i gotta

keep pushing forward i gotta yeah keep that movement going so i think like the next next phase mark had already told me in the past like hey how about we just focus on getting better but you know of course i'm going to listen the first time. But after this happening to me yesterday, I'm like, okay, I think it's time to, like, okay, I'm not going to come into the powerlifting gym and try to powerlift every single day. Like, how about I just focus on my back and get better? Yeah. Because, yeah, and do all the stuff that I, you know, like, I don't know how to do yoga and stuff like that, but whatever stretching I can do to help fix it, I think I got to really just focus on just that right now. Yeah, feel good in every single workout.

So, I don't know, you have like those smooth panther videos. Is that like a good start? Sweet, all of a sudden you couldn't do it. Yeah. Yeah. So, yeah, that's the thing. It's like i i need like hey stupid do this like your back hurts try that and i know there's tons of information out there

but you know like when i was trying to become a photographer there's tons of photographers to learn from but it wasn't until i found the one that made the most sense to me so i think that's kind of the same thing here but you know it's just just a learning process still for me yeah just if you do those videos you shouldn't uh like any movement that's there you just never should really push yourself into it or push yourself deeper let gravity do the job like seriously let gravity do the job because if you overdo something then it'll feel kind of wonky for a few minutes. So just let your body do the work and you'll be fine. Got it.

I can also put you in a Boston crab or a camel clutch. Dude, a Boston crab? Do you guys try pro wrestling moves sometimes? Probably, yeah. When I was a kid. No, but in jujitsu, do you guys? Oh, in jujitsu. Like every once in a while, you're like, yo.

He's making him tap from a figure four. Put somebody in the sharpshooter. Well, like some wrestlers that do jujitsu, like they know some like they know some things already. So like it is possible to put people like these weird body cranks and make them tap. Not because of like a friggin hurts. Yeah. You're just like crumpled up and your body's on top of each other. And yeah, those are wrestling moves so do you uh once you become higher level and you get used to stuff it's

pretty rare to tap from something that hurts right um yeah i mean in practice you might yeah maybe pressure tapping is kind of frowned upon not even frowned upon it can happen but it just doesn't happen as much because you kind of know how to finagle your body underneath somebody else's pressure so yeah i remember sometimes like when they didn't have a choke and they would just give you a lot of pressure on your face and you're not used to that it's like holy shit like on your jaw or something yeah that's messed up if an upper belt does that to you though like if an upper belt does that to a lower belt and like they get the chin oh like slower like, lower belts are, it's easy to be stupid, because you think that your chin can stay there, but no, your jaw can break. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

So. What about, like, a forearm straight to the nose, just like. Yeah, that's, you don't do that. You don't do that. Good. You do that in UFC, but not, like, in competition. You can't just put your forearm in somebody's nose because they would tap

but that's also just an illegal thing to do you actually have to choke them makes me feel like I need to sneeze just thinking about it me too actually my nose started to tickle

why did that happen? like really my nose started to tickle hardcore after we did that yeah my eyes started watering and everything that's fucking weird

yeah so we got Grant. He's shuffling around. He's coming on in a second here. Oh, cool. I think there was a miscommunication about what time. Oh. Okay.

Okay. But yeah, he should be here any moment. Any moment. You get any lifting in yesterday or today? No. Like I said, after. So I wanted to come in early. That didn't happen. I went to bed way too late. So I'm like, okay, maybe sometime during the day, like I, you know, like we've been training like midday and like that could happen, or I can just

do it after, you know, after work. And then that happened with my back and I just, I couldn't move. So I'm like, okay, shit. I'm, I just need to go to the chiropractor. After that, like, I got a pretty good leg pump after just doing lunges throughout the house. Like, and then weighted lunges. So, I mean, technically, I guess I did get in a little bit of lifting. But nothing, you know, I mean, I sweat for sure because it was pretty hot yesterday. So, I got my heart rate up and stuff, no lifting in the gym like officially but i would like that to change today it will change today it absolutely will like even if like i just want to like i said move around like i need to figure

out like good solid movements that aren't going to hurt me, but that are going to help build that, that area. Oh, for sure. That's a good thing about this gym though. Like that, there's that, uh,

that back extension machine. That thing is a beauty. Is that the one that like pushes you forward and you just, some of that reverse hyperaction. Oh man, like I still haven't been able to figure out the damn reverse hyper. Wait, what?

What do you mean? I'm going to sound like the biggest bitch right now and i'm okay with that whenever i so i grab hold i do it i get a headache instantly it's so dumb but even if i so if i do like super lightweight then it's okay but then i can't really like i don't get the extension yeah so i feel a little bit better when i get on the gh ghd ghr ghr or i call ghr some people call it ghd i don't whatever whichever the case don't matter yeah i'll do basically the same style movement with that yeah but my legs are a little bit too long so i ended up hitting like the uh the machine itself but that one actually can feel the the uh the extension but i can't feel the uh the bottom portion where it like stretches out your lower back pause are you talking about

the rogue ghr yeah in the gym yep so you know how like you would normally get on to do uh like hamstring whatever's so i i go from the other side and I grab the back where your feet go. And then I just go up and then down. That feels really good. My back will pop on that one too. I think the reverse hyper sometimes can just put a lot of pressure

on your hips and stomach area. And so maybe that's what's making you feel like your head's going to blow off your shoulders. Cool. We got Grant. He's coming on in. There he is. Those supplements I see in the back.

Probably steroids back there. No, those are books. What's on that TV? Watching the stocks, maybe. Yeah. What's going on, brother? Hey, my man. How's it going?

I got my little vegan lunch. There we go. Yeah. So have you been doing a vegan diet well you know yeah i've been doing what i do man i don't know what i'm doing most of the time well you're staying in good shape it looks like you know i i keep i'm carrying 10 pounds dude i don't know how to get rid of it. We got to get, we got to get you on that meat diet. That's what,

that's what's missing. Oh yeah. I think it will help because it can help you to, you know, add a little bit of muscle mass and then we don't have to worry about the 10 pounds as much. If you make your lats really big and your arms really big, no one looks at your stomach anymore. Yeah, but it's still, there's still, like, I weigh 180 pounds, but I'm 5'8". I shouldn't weigh 1'8".

I should be like 160, right? 162, something like that. Have you had abs before? Have you ever had your abs show pretty good? Yeah, I mean, my abs look pretty good. They're bad, right?

They do, okay. That's not bad. Not bad, right? Have you ever had them, have you ever had your abs like pronounced, like a fitness model? Never bro. Never. Come on. I think, I think we can do that. We can 10 X that body. I like it, man. I like it. Who's you got? Who's your sidekick there? We got my boy and SEMA over here and we also have Andrew.

How you doing? Andrew's in the house. That's awesome, man. I'm going to go in alone today, guys. I'm going to take you guys home by myself. All right. here and we also have andrew how you doing andrew's in the house that's awesome man i'm gonna go it alone today guys i'm gonna take you guys home by myself all right oh good uh but we we needed to actually talk to your wife because she runs the show over there right no i'm just kidding my man hey man it's really great to have you on the show we really appreciate your time there's a lot of stuff to ask you because you know, you have some unconventional thoughts. I hear you quite a bit talking about probably the main thing that I hear from you is when you talk about purchasing homes. You know, I think a lot of adults, you know, once people start to get out into the adult world, You hear how valuable it is to buy a house,

what a great investment it is into your future, buying a home. So let's get your thoughts on that, because I know that you're very much against it. Yeah. So, look, I'm not, I mean, I am against the concept that it's a dream, that it's actually a prayer. A lot of the things that are pitched to the American middle class are their

prison concepts. And, you know, it's a misinformation with the intention to imprison people for life. And I'm not a dramatist, but it's reality. If you just study the statistics in America, the banks win on a house deal more than anything. You're going to pay the bank

4 or 5 percent. The banks are the great slave masters. Save your money, leave it at the bank. Put your money in a retirement account on Wall Street. That's the winners in the deal. If you calculate the cost of a home, nobody does it on, I bought the house for $200, I sold it for $300. Okay, yeah, but what about the interest that you paid for 10 years? 6% a year times 10

is 60%. If you bought the house for 200 and you paid 60% to the bank, that means you paid $120,000 in interest to the bank. Property taxes are 2% a year in some states, 1.8 in a week, maybe 75 blips of a point property taxes.

Every year times 10, a 75% in properties. Maintenance is 1% a year. That's 10%. You had to pay the real estate broker 6% to 7%. The real estate broker is going to make more money on a deal that makes $100,000 than you did. But nobody does that. Nobody talks about the cost of painting, utilities, the cost of running,

landscaping, the energy involved. Oh, by the way, the mobility that you lost, the mobility. When you lose mobility, you become like a tree. And so that is the great, I'm writing an article right now about the American dream. Is it really a dream?

Come on, man. Anytime somebody starts talking about dreams, you know they're selling something. And this is a dream that costs a lot of money. The loss of mobility by itself is the biggest, to me, the biggest expense. I lost opportunity to move to another place or location

to get real money. Now, that being said, if I can buy $1,000 a month and rent for $17,000, it costs me more money to rent than it does to own. month and rent for 17. It costs me more money to rent than it does to own. I pay $700 more in rent before I would buy. For all the reasons I just gave you.

But hey, what do I know, dude? What do I know? You know, I'm just a little guy, you know, that climbed out of the lower middle class and said, hey, man, all this stuff I'm being taught benefits them. It doesn't benefit me. I had an IRA when I was 20 years old. It was stupid, completely ridiculous. Really? I bought life insurance when I was 21. Completely ridiculous.

I was 21. Completely ridiculous. So, this hits really close to home for me right now because I'm actually in the process of selling my first home to purchase my forever home. I'm pretty sure you love that term too. But I guess my thought is in the two years that I owned the first house, I did accrue a lot of equity and there would have been no way that I could have saved or done anything to really come up with an extra, it's almost $80,000 in equity that I'm getting out of the house to put towards this new house. So, what are your thoughts on somebody, you know, like me who I didn't have like a big investment to make, but because I did, you know like me who i didn't have like a big investment to make but because i did uh you know i i did pay the interest i did pay you know the the loan broker the uh the realtor i paid the bank all this interest but in the end i am still i i feel like i'm still coming out on top because

i have this uh good chunk of change that i couldn't have gotten any other way. Uh, barring like starting my own company and doing that sort of thing. How much did you, how much did you put into that house two years ago? Uh, so, uh, just like the initial sale was two 64.

So 264,000, um, at 4.75% APR. And, uh, so now it is at two 50 and it is going, at 4.75% APR. And so now it is at 250 and it is going to be selling for 330. Okay. So if we just do the math on that, it looks like you made $66,000.

That's a quick math. Okay. 330 less the 26264,000 that you paid, right? No, the $264,000 was the debt. That was the... What did you pay for the house? That was the initial price of the house. Market. No, sorry. It was $274,000. My bad.

Sorry. I was like, wait, that's not right. Yeah. Yeah. $274,000 and you financed $264,000. No, no, no. So I financed that whole $274,000 and then so now it's at $254,000. Yeah, well, it's paid down, right? Correct.

You paid that down. Yes, absolutely. That's not some gift. You paid the $20,000. Correct. So that's not a present you pay for it absolutely but what you're calculating is the 254 that you owe now when you sell it you're going to get 330 you're going to pay six percent in in less than property taxes for two years i mean you had a

little score you had a little score in two years. Yeah. I would say you're $70,000 and you go buy, you go or a four-plex and you rent it to other people. Okay. That $74,000 is going to the $74,000, like a $300,000 piece of real

estate. No, no. $74,000 you could buy yourself. You got $74,000 worth of equity.. No, no, $74,000. You could buy yourself, you got $74,000 worth of equity. You could go buy yourself a fourplex. Where do you live? Here in Sacramento, California. Yeah, so you could go one house is good, then four

times better. And I would rent those four properties to someone else. Let them pay the rent. Let them mow the grass. Let them clean the place up. Let them pay for your property taxes. And that's my point.

Rent where you live and own and become a land, become a owner of properties. Rent where you live. Rent the dream. Would you basically say that a lot of we basically say for a lot of the middle class you know they say 76 of america you know works paycheck to paycheck is this mainly who you're speaking to when you're talking about uh this idea of just maybe renting a house instead of purchasing a house. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Like like there's nothing wrong with renting a house. OK, own real estate that pays you. I want to I want to own the house and rent it to you guys.

Got it. And you're going to get rich. I bought I bought a I mean, I own 8,000 apartments today. Oh my gosh. At $1,500 a month. I have not had attention on houses, even though I've made money on houses. I'm not telling people you can't make money on a house.

You can. You can lose money on a house. LeBron just bought a house for $52 million. I guarantee he loses money on that house. He won't be the first man to lose money on a house for $52 million. I guarantee he loses money on that house. He won't be the first man to lose money on a house. But hey, what does it matter? Most Americans aren't going to get a deal with a

Sure. Okay, Michael LeBron never needs to play basketball again. He's still going to get revenues from royalties. Most Americans don't have that. Once you're rich, buy a house. Warren Buffett never talks about his one home in Omaha, Nebraska that he bought.

He talks about the investments he made in Coca-Cola. A house is a liability. Andrew, and he won't get lucky the next time. He just got lucky. He didn't do anything brilliant. Some fool in his house is worth. I'm curious about this. The house he's going to live in forever. By the way, forever is a long damn time.

I mean, if you go back to the house that you guys grew up in, Mark, where'd you grow up? I grew up in upstate New York. When's the last time you've been to the house that you guys grew up in? Mark, where'd you grow up? I grew up in upstate New York. When's the last time you been to that house? It's been 40 years, probably. Or 30-something years. Go back to that house today. That was a dream for your parents.

Right. That was your dream. You go back there today, you're like, man, this place is small. Right. You know, Grant, right? Yeah. So the house forever. Your mom and dad probably bought that house thinking this is where we're going to finish our life.

We're going to raise our kids. It's going to be unbelievable. We're going to be so happy. We're going to get our uncle Matt and we're going to have our little dog, Ruffy. And it's going to be fucking unbelievable. Life is going to be awesome. And they got fat and they got bored with each other and they don't travel anymore. Man, people should be traveling.

They shouldn't be stuck in a house. So I personally would rather move every two or three years. I can't if I have a market for years. Anybody that bought pre-COVID, if you bought in January, you bought a house in January. You ain't selling that house for a long time. If you bought in 2008, there's people, there's millions of people. This is what people aren't told about buying a house. Millions of people are still underwater from 2008.

That's 12 years. They still can't break even on their house. Andrew just got lucky. And then also, yeah. And then also, so like, uh, I also got a really good, not interest rate, commission rate. The realtor that I used to buy the first house said that she would, you know, cut me a deal for this next one. So everything, yeah, you're right. I did get lucky. I feel very, very fortunate and grateful. But my next question would be just if someone like me were to start start renting like it again this is stuff that we've

been told so i'm happy that you're here to go against the grain but aren't we just putting money towards someone else and something else and we're not getting a return on that at least if i you should become that guy you should become there you go okay got it okay yeah Got it. Okay. Yeah. I'll go to Las Vegas and what they do, they buy a book, how to win at blackjack. They're so proud because they know when to hit a 16. They bring their little freaking cheat card with them. You ought to be reading a book how to own a casino, not how to play a game.

Wow. See, the difference is book how to own a casino, not how to play a game. Wow. See, the difference is, rather than buying a house, how could you own 50 houses? You're trying to figure out how to make a good deal. I'm trying to tell you, hey, don't worry about where you live. Worry about where other people live, and they pay you to live there. Just shift your attention. Well, I'm curious, Grant, like for a lot of the audience, um, especially like the 20 somethings, right. Who are told to buy a house. Maybe they want to get into real estate, but they

have a job or something else that they're doing. What avenues would you suggest people take? Because becoming a real estate agent, of course, takes work and time. And if you want to do that, that's an option. But also, I know that you have Cardone Capital, which allows people to invest in real estate through you. Is that an avenue that individuals can take to dip their feet in those waters? What would, what, what would you do if you were like 25? 100%. Being a real estate agent would not be one of the paths that I would suggest to people. Real estate, most real estate agents don't make any money at all, ever. Now there are, I mean, I work with some of the top real estate agents in the country that make,

you know, these guys $8, $9 million a year. But they are professionals. They are like, they're selling to LeBron. You know, those are a half of 1% of the nation. Most real estate, what a flight attendant makes. No offense to me, the money matters. And money matters. It doesn't matter until you need it. But once you need it, it matters a lot.

And so I would tell people, number one, either learn the game yourself. You do not need a college education to go buy real estate. You do not need a degree to go buy real estate, and you don't even need a license. What you need is, I need knowledge. I'm looking for a job with almost no money now. And then no more. You don't need to have some business intelligence. You don't need an IQ. You don't need anything.

Anybody qualifies to buy real estate like I buy. But if you got a job and you work in a job and you don't have to do this on the weekends or. Like, look, I wanted financial freedom so bad, bro, I would have I would have done anything short of. And if I thought I could have got away with robbing a bank, I'd have probably done that. But but I knew that I had to go sleep with myself at night and say, hey, wait a minute, you don't need to rob a bank, bro. You need to be the bank. So the second thing that people could do, like I have people that invest with me that have made millions and millions of dollars that have never even shopped a piece of real estate. What I did, and this goes back to the casino

thing that people probably make fun of me for, that you can't buy a casino and you can't be a bank. What I did was rather than – there's certain things I just don't like. I don't like the big institutions, J.P. Margins, the Margins Stanleys, the Blackstones. I don't like them probably because I'm envious of them, just to be frankly honest. Sometimes I don't like Bell because he looks so good. I'm that guy. He spent too much time in the gym. But, you know, what's up with that?

So sometimes I hate on the very one. But the Goldman Sachs and the J.P. Margins and the Margins, Merrill Lynch's Schwab's and all that. Look, they took advantage of my mom. They never gave my mom a break and it pissed me off. And one day I said, I'm going to get even for the deal. In 2008,

Barack Obama passed a law called the Jobs Act. And the Jobs Act basically allows me the garbage in there that got buried in the Jobs Act that said that a guy like me can now raise money from a guy like you. And all of a sudden that changed. This was 2012. It got

in in 2014. It said I could raise money from accredited or non-accredited investors. And so about 20 years ago, I started raising money from regular, ordinary people. I raised $400 million in 25 months. It bought $1.1 billion. And you're an equal partner with me in these deals, literally a partner in the deals. So I don't go to Mark and Stanley to get the money anymore. I go to my friends and say, let's me and you do the deal.

I'll buy the deal with my money. You can buy as much of it as you want. Mark Bell can put in $10,000 or a million dollars. And I'm going to run the deal. I have total control over the deal. I run the deal, pick the deal, buy the deal, get the funding for the deal, collect the rents, and then I distribute to our investors.

And I did that, one, because it benefits Mark, and number two, because I don't have to deal with J.P. Martin. And I could literally create as big with JP Morgan. I could literally create as big as a JP or Morgan Stanley by going direct to investors. For those of you who don't have the time, the energy, you don't

have the knowledge, you don't have the confidence to go buy these, find a guy like me that's doing deals every day, putting his own risk and partner with them. what i'm going to end up doing is i'm going to build a big massive real estate portfolio and i'm going to actually sell it to the people using the jp margins and martin stanley's those would be the people that actually buy these assets from me later you uh one of the reasons why I got drawn to you in the first place is because I view you as

the Ric Flair of the personal development crowd. And you do some stuff that would be viewed as obnoxious, over the top, burning $100 bills on stage, coming out of your Humvee and cutting what I would call a like a wrestling vince mcmahon uh style promo where does this kind of stuff come from i've heard you say before that uh it should be everyone's goal to have haters uh why is this a belief that you attach to you know because look if you're not doing it if nobody hates you no you're not doing anything every if you study great people i've if nobody hates you, you're not doing anything. If you study great people, I've been studying, I've been inspired by great people my whole life, like whether it's Christ or Gandhi or you name it, Martin Luther King,

like John Kennedy, like these people that were so inspirational, man. You listen to the John Kennedy speech. I don't care who you are, what age you race is. You listen to the Moon speech, dude, and you're going to be like, duh. You listen to Martin Luther King do the speech. Who can't? Who's not inspired by the dream speech? It breaks all races. It breaks colors, division. I mean, he would be really ignorant

not to be inspired by that speech. So, all these people have haters, man. You know, if you look at, hey, what do all these people have in common? I mean, Jesus, man. It's so bad, they put him on

a cross. Put him on a cross. And what did he do? He's like, you know what? We're going to play this card out for a while. See, I'm confident some people will find this offensive. I am a huge fan of Jesus Christ. Okay.

Jesus Christ was a show off. Okay. He took three days up there. But Jesus Christ was a show-off, okay? He took three days up there. He's like, look, this is going to be good, man. Don't waste the nails. And we're going to play this out, okay? Y'all put me up here. You want to string me?

You want to sword me? You want to cut me? Okay, well, you know what? You're going to have to watch me here for three days. I'm getting all the TV time I can. Walking on waters, man. Getting blind people to see. Man, this is like, he didn't keep that quiet. He said, let the people know I did this.

But then when they asked him who he was, he says, hey, man, I am. And you can do more than I do. So he was very inspirational in his messaging, but he didn't stay in a cave. Even that, look at it. He's a lot of big acts right there, right? Like Martin Luther, I wouldn't know him. He wouldn't have marched. Got his share of haters.

I was saying in 2014, I'm like, you know, if I wanted to become the president of the United States, I'd have to get half the country to hate me. I didn't say I'd have to get half the country to love me. I said I'd have to get half the country to hate me because you cannot become a president. So I promise you, Jeff Bezos will be in congressional hearings in the next two to three years. I said it right here in the Mark Bell show. He will be in congressional hearings for having a lead and they will break up Amazon. That will happen

in the next two to three years. He will have coming out of every corner of a rat hole. So you can just go down to people that Warren Buffett only got to know that

somehow has figured out how not to have anybody hate him. Because he's probably one of the greatest hucksters in the history of the world. He's everybody's grandfather. Grant, what about this notion, money isn't everything. Money can't buy happiness. I'm sure you hear this one all the time. Yeah, dude.

Yeah, I did. People tell me this all the time. People that don't have any money give me all kind of advice on money. Money won't make you happy. Bro, you ain't got any money, man. You know? Money's not everything. It's because

you don't have any money. Don't talk to me about money until you've had about a couple hundred million dollars put away. Then you can give me all the advice you've had about a couple hundred million dollars put away. Then you can give me all the advice you want on money. Then I'll listen to you. But until I have more money than I got, I don't need your advice. All right, listen to those and help me back.

By the way, money will not make you happy. I have enough to know. But it'll buy a watch. Okay. It'll get you, it'll get you, it'll get you, it'll get you a private room in a hospital when, when,

and, uh, uh, you know what, enough money will actually get you access to your mother when you can't get into the hospital. Okay. Enough money will get you out of jail.

It'll get you a lawyer to defend yourself. Enough money will take care of your kids and put tennis shoes on them. Money's not everything, but I go stream 550. In fact, it's the only thing that'll buy one. Your plane is faster than Ed Milet's, right? I heard you guys getting into it on a podcast before. Oh, my God. Ed Milet.

That's so funny, dude. Ed bought a Falcon. Ed bought a Falcon. He bought this I think it's a 2000 or 1998 Falcon. It's got three engines on it.

He's like, you know, Grant, I got three engines. I said, okay. Mine will run with one. He says, mine has a gas mileage in yours. Okay. Mine will run with one. He says, my gas mileage in yours. Okay. It was funny. He's like,

my pilot says my plane will go faster than yours. Okay. Did you guys ever race yet? No, we haven't raced yet. You know, I'm curious. Because before the show started or actually during the initial part of the show, Mark was talking about how, like, I think, you know, you were worth 10 to 15 million by the time you were 45.

And then you maybe settled a little bit. But then you found a way to push yourself to, like, the next level, even though you were already super successful. So I'm curious if that's the case, what is it or what was it at that point, right? Where you were already super rich, according to everybody, like at least myself and Andrew and probably, I don't know. What was it that allowed you to kind of get to that next level? What made you want to push there? Yeah, that's a great question. First of all, I did not consider myself super rich at that time. I felt myself very susceptible and I was probably worth six or eight million at the end of 2008, 2009, and 2010. A lot of people,

that's, oh my God. That's so much money. No, not really. Not when you, uh, a $60 million lawsuit in your face, you got to bank. The bank that you owe money to is asking for $50 million. Um,

and the, the, the, basically the banking system has failed. I got a baby on the way. I thought I had something. And then the next thing, you know, dude on the way. I thought I had something. And then the next thing you know, dude, I thought I had made it.

And 2008 comes, and the next thing you know, I'm like, oh, oh, my God. It's like you being in the best health of your life and then finding out you got cancer or something. You're like, oh, my God. I thought I was in good shape. So, you know, that's all relative, right? It's relative to what does it cost to keep funding my projects. And 2008 wasn't my idea. I wasn't part of the housing crisis. I didn't do any of those bad loans.

And it affected me. And it affected the environment. COVID. I had nothing to do with COVID. It affected me when I couldn't come to my office. When the country got shut down. So the point of that story is that, like, people, you don't have money. You have enough money until you don't. Money doesn't matter until it does. When your mama needs

special surgery, bro, they only take one thing, money. In 2008, when that whole thing happened, I thought I was going to go bankrupt. I had spent 20 years busting my ass to get in a situation

that I thought I was financially solvent. And then when the rug got pulled out from underneath me, I owned a home, had a bunch of equity tied up in the house, couldn't get my equity. Had my apartments. My apartments couldn't sell. The market was frozen up. Businesses that I've been busting my ass in,

cut in half overnight. Okay? Had nothing to do with me, dude. Except one thing had something to do with me. I wasn't big enough. That's what I learned in 2008. I wasn't big enough. That's what I learned in 2008. I was not big enough to weather the tide

going back out and everything back out with it. I did not have the muscle to swim against this tide, in this case money, to swim against this well that was pulling all these assets and fortunes,

not just mine but a lot of people. And a lot of people got buried in that deal. And I got hurt. And I promised myself in two years this will happen to me again. The next time we have a crash, I'm going to be ten times bigger. I'm going to have 10 times more debt. Who got all the help back then? And who got all the help this time?

The big guys. Okay? This is a stat game, man. This is a stat game. This is a big casino we live on. Okay? The big guys win. They're going through the biggest wealth redistribution in

the history of the world right now a little guy will get kicked his ass will get kicked after covid passes and gone we're going to find out it was a whole big scam and watch the little guy the american the middle class will have less their wages will be less their wealth will be less okay their net worth will be retirement accounts will be smaller and Their wealth will be less. Okay. Their net worth will be less. Entirement accounts will be smaller. And the wealthy will get wealthier. 60 days into COVID, okay, the top 10% richest people in the world got like 50 times richer. Well, the rest of the time, it's a game, bro.

It's a game. It's all stacked. And when this COVID thing came and i knew exactly what to do this time was the impetus between in the last 12 years was like i'm never going to be in that situation again to let my family myself and my family down when you you had your your dad died when you were 10 i think you mentioned that you had a sibling die as well. And then also, you also pulled yourself through addiction. What are some things that you learned from these two losses of family members and also getting through an addiction? I think you said you were addicted to like any kind of drug that was put in front of you. So what are some things

you learned being able to make it through some of those tough times? Yeah. When I was 10 years old, other than when I was 20, those were two really like major, you know, get,

get punched in the face. One time's one thing, man, get hit a second time. It's like, and a time I was 20 years old, Mark, I was like, like okay i'm not gonna live until i'm 25 yeah and so when you're starting death every day i remember i was i was 11 years

old and i i'd go check on my mom because i was certain she was gonna die oh man i got friends never lost anybody in their life. Their grandparents are still living. So, you know, I was a drug addict by the time I was 17, using drugs every day. It didn't matter what drug. You had a medicine cabinet, and I knew what was in it. You know, I'd go to your grandmother's house just to get the drugs out of her. Didn't matter what it was.

I would just, I'd take it and figure, I'd take the drugs out and figure out what they were later. That's the kind of drug addict I was. How did you fall into that? Started smoking weed with my brother and Russell and a guy named Brian. And I was, you know, I knew it. I knew it for me at the time. I knew it was going to. This isn't a moral vindication about marijuana, but it was bad.

It was it was the door for me. It was like it was door. Yeah, I made it OK. I started using weed and then I then then i started smoking hash and then i started smoking whatever you'd give me and then i started eating pills and i was trying to escape man but mostly i was bored like if i'd have been working out man and building muscle maybe maybe i wouldn't have. I was a baseball player.

I wanted to be a baseball player, but baseball was only like three months of the year. I had nine months. So I don't think drugs was a symptom of another problem. And by the way, I don't think it was about the loss of my brother and my dad. I think it was at the end of the day, I was bored. I hated school. It was too slow for me. I could have done school.

I could have done school. What is it, 12? I could have done school in six years. And no one ever did anything. I had summer school on me, weekends like the Chinese do. I should have done weekend, summer school. I'd have been 12 years old.

I'd have been finished with high school. Shit, I'd go for that deal. What pulled you through the addiction? One of my kids is doing sixth grade math right now. I said, Gary, if you let me, I will get you through the entire sixth grade math math right now i said i get if you if you let me i will get you through the entire sixth grade in three weeks what pulled you through uh addiction was it uh was it your mother or someone okay yeah my mom my mom kind of intervened on me and she said hey

don't even come here anymore um i had overdosed three times, and somebody brought me back to life. And so my mom finally said, okay, done. I'm done saving your life. Get out. And 30 days later, I was in a treatment center. I went to treatment, spent 28 days there, 28 days and $20,000. And came out, and I was selling cars. The only job I could get was car sales.

And I'm like, okay, I'm going to keep selling cars. And I hated selling cars. It'd be like you selling cars, Mark. I would hate it for sure. Mark Bell, can you imagine Mark Bell selling cars? You want it or not? That'd pretty much, that'd pretty much be it. Kind of last question for the day is how do I make more money? Grant, what do you, what you got for me?

Look, look, Mark, the best way, the best way to make money is to invest in a business. You know, you know that. And the second best way is to invest in a business that cash flows. So I know for everybody, like, there's nobody watching this. It has been around, tried and true, man, thousands of years. Buying real estate in a good location that cash flows. It's going to be around 15 years, 20 years.

What city do you live in? I live in the Sacramento area. Yeah. I hate California, bro. A lot of taxes out of that. I hate California. Yeah, I mean, I hate California from a real estate. You've got water problems there.

You've got license regulation problems. You've got landlord problems. You know, the tenant's going to always beat you in court. They'll take you to court over and over. So, you know, I love California, and I lived there 25 years. I left California because money's important to me, and my charities are important to me i've i've been raised hundreds of millions of dollars to charities i don't want to pay california that

money i'd rather i'd rather save the 10 10 or 15 million bucks a year that it costs for me to live in california and give it to the charity. At least I know it's going to good. I don't know what it's going to do. How about broken streets and roads and, uh, you know, airports that you're embarrassed to even walk through. So anyway,

uh, I would tell you, keep building your brand bro. You're awesome. You need more products though. You need more products, though. You need more products. And then get those products making money. Invest the surplus in real estate with a guy like me.

Partner with me. I'll make you more money in real estate than you can make in business. I like it. Hey, thanks so much for your time. I didn't know you did such a good show, though, bro. I didn't know you guys like you got back there. We got some shit going on over here. You got to make it out to Sacramento sometime, even though you hate California.

Yeah, no, no. I come visit. You know what I tell people? I'm like, you should use California like a little brother or something. Just beat it up. And leave. I love it, man. Again, thank you so much for your time. We really appreciate it. Thank you.

Yes, thank you. Pleasure being with you. Thank you so much. Have a good one. See you. Thanks a lot. We're going to work on getting him shredded. He's in good shape though he's

yeah you're really good shape yeah yeah i uh send him a bunch of information kind of a long time ago about like nutrition and uh he just wrote back that's way too hard it was pretty funny well if he 10xs it he he'll have abs in 10 days. Yeah, he could, he could do that. He can get in shape super easily. But man, that, uh, that episode in of itself, that was, um, that was very eyeopening for, I guess, my situation and potentially your situation. Yeah, no, absolutely. Like, uh, yeah, yeah.

This is like, and especially right now amidst this pandemic and everything that's going on with like interest rates or whatever, I want to figure out what I should do. You know what I mean? So he, I think he pointed us in the right direction for what we should figure out, what we should learn. But yeah,

I think it was, he gave some great information and I think, uh, you know, for people that are listening that maybe don't have that much money, I think this is just gives you something to work towards, you know, like you can't invest money that maybe don't have that much money, I think this just gives you something to work towards. You can't invest money that you don't have, but you could think about investing and you could have that kind of in the front of your mind. And rather than just saving money just for the sake of saving money, maybe you're saving money to potentially invest it down the road at some point.

I mean, could you save 20 bucks a week? Just whatever, what sounds reasonable to you? Like, it might not sound like anything, but just as we know from lifting that it does accumulate, we know from lifting, we know from our nutrition that when you continually make the correct decision, you are basically saving up your, your, your voting, you're moving towards your goal and um you know that these are these are things to think about when you're thinking about trying to make some sort of uh investment it's hard to it's hard to know like what to invest in you know it's so obvious uh after the fact you know i know friends that have missed out on like starbucks and stuff like that

because it just didn't you know the story sounds funny now but you know 15 years ago 20 years ago yeah i'm gonna have a coffee shop on every corner like yeah right we're gonna have more coffee shops than there are mcdonald's yeah yeah good try good luck yeah that shit ain't happening you know and yeah we're gonna we're gonna overcharge you know they'll be like six bucks for a cup of coffee. Like get the hell out of here. No, people really like coffee that much. You're like, I don't think so.

It's just scary. Like I, I hate the even idea of gambling, you know, like I don't do casinos. I don't like any of that. You know, I work pretty damn hard for my money. I don't want to just like chance it. And that's what investing feels like to me. So it's like really scary and daunting to think like oh it's not just like a uh a table of blackjack you know it's like you can invest a lot and then

you're gonna have to wait and you might go down you might go up and then you might sell and then all of a sudden boom the stock skyrockets and then you're feeling like shit so it's uh man that's that's that's a whole that investing is the hnl you know it's just it's on man, that's a whole, investing is an H&L. You know, it's on a whole other level. Yeah, it's something you got to really think about. And then you have to, whoever you may invest in, if it's not something just like apartment buildings or something. But if you're going to invest in somebody or a company, then you just need to talk to that person. And is this person professional?

talk to that person and, and is this person professional? Like, is this, uh, are you, um, are you investing, uh, simply because you want to see the person do well and it's like a friend, somebody that you know, um, you know, or, or is it more serious? Are you really looking for like a return? And if you're looking for a return, uh, that person better come to you with a really good plan. They better come to you with something that seems very convincing. A couple months ago, my wife and I, we talked to a guy who was talking about turning a place down in downtown Davis into like a bowling alley. And we're like, oh, that sounds kind of neat. But after talking to him, and we had Sean with us as well. Sean knows a ton about business and real estate.

That's another thing is arm yourself with somebody that knows what the hell is going on. You almost always have a friend within arm's reach that you can communicate with that at least knows something. And, you know, having Sean there was helpful because he asked a lot of good questions. But as he asked those questions, it was very clear that this guy didn't really have, um, this guy was, this guy was really big on bowling, which is cool. But I was like, I don't think people are that into like people go and they bowl for, for, for fun, you know? And he was talking about how there's, there's people that are real serious about it that'll want to come and they'll get, you know, they get, you know, they get frustrated when the lanes aren't open and it needs to be a certain way.

And, you know, once you start kind of thinking that way, then I can think about even just my own sport, powerlifting. You know, you open up the floodgates, have a free gym, and, like, there's not that many people that train here. And there's, the reason is, like, powerlifting is a niche thing, it's also really hard. It's hard to be consistent with it. It hurts, you know? So when you're thinking about that, you're like, okay, well, this guy's really narrowing down his market because he wants to have a bowling alley that's set up more for him than it is for like families. And I would think that if we're going to try to make some dough off of this, we better have good food and we better have a place that's lively and fun and exciting rather than like a professional bowling alley yeah no that that makes a lot of sense but yeah it is very surprising even when you think

about super training because i mean yeah we are it is a power lifting gym right but like it's not only power lifters that do train here you know people like in general people just train here bodybuilders etc um and yeah the fact that when it was more open i would have expected more people to take advantage of it you don't need to pay you know right so i mean we have you know we we don't necessarily't necessarily make it super easy to come here because, like, you may not know where we're at and stuff. But, like, we're on, like, we're on Google Maps and, like, we're fairly easy to find. And all you have to do to come here is just let us know that you're going to come. Pretty much that's, like, the only rule.

And then, you know, when you do train here, you have to follow a couple of rules that we got, but there's not a lot of them. So I think the gym opens back up, I think, this weekend. Oh, dope. Yeah. That's nice. Yeah, I mean, it's been open to staff for a little bit now, and it's been open to some teammates. But now we'll open it back up to the general public. So, hey, hey anybody listening 855

riverside parkway west sacramento california uh from like 10 to 1 i think you know it's kind of reminiscent though what andrew was just saying to me like saying to us that like how uh investing you mentioned it's kind of like gambling right um but it seems like it's only like gambling when you don't know that much about it you know like if you spend as much time learning about it seems like it's only like gambling when you don't know that much about it. You know, if you spend as much time learning about it as Grant has, it's not gambling anymore. Like if you don't know how to diet or lose weight, right? Trying to start a diet is like a gamble because you don't know where to start. You don't know which diets do.

You don't know if you're going to lose weight. You don't know if you should eat six or two meals a day. Right. And super training, it's a quick Google search away. But I've heard so many people say, I'm scared. Yeah. I would suggest that people don't invest in stuff that they either don't know anything about, which somebody might automatically think they don't know anything about investing, but I wouldn't really think that. I think if you wanted to, you can brush up on some easy information by reading a book or going on YouTube or something like that.

But I would suggest not investing in something that you don't know anything about. But even more so than just that, I wouldn't invest in something that you can't find out stuff about that easily. You don't have a buddy or a friend or you don't have a contact to reference. Stan Efferding comes to you and wants you to invest in the vertical diet. And he has an app and he's doing, you know, these different things. You don't know anything about fitness or nutrition. You don't know anything about apps. It's like, it's probably not, you know, even though it might be exciting to you,

whatever this, you know, business venture might be, that doesn't sound great because then you don't have anybody you can double check. Hey, does this sound right to you? And someone else might say, yeah, you know what? I helped build out a fitness app. And what you're investing in sounds way better than what I – I lost 25 grand on this other one or whatever it might be. And also, too, I think people always think that you need to have like enormous amounts of money to invest in stuff. And I don't think that's true either. I think if you can,

if you get to somebody at an early stage, you know, what I would suggest to people is that whenever you have a friend or anybody who says, Hey man, I got this like really cool idea. I want to run it past you. I would say just why not leave the door open and say, hey, if you ever need extra help with that, you want a little financial support. I'd love to be able to talk about that with you, too, because what's it hurt? Doesn't hurt anything. So what? They present something to you. You're not able to invest or when they present something to you, you're like, yeah, man, I can invest, you know, fifteen hundred bucks.

They might be like, well, I was kind of hoping for more. But it's like, hey, this is this is a start, bro. Like, let me I can invest, you know, 1500 bucks. They might be like, well, I was kind of hoping for more, but it's like, Hey, this is, this is a start, bro. Like, Hey, let me, let me invest this. And then also if you really liked the idea, you can, uh, you know, be somebody that helps to, you know, support with ideas and creation and your, that's what quest nutrition did. Um, that's how, you know, uh, Tom Bilyeu became part of it, I believe. That's how some of the story goes. I know Ron Penna was looking for, he didn't really want employees necessarily. He wanted partners. He wanted to partner up with people.

And from what I've heard, it was kind of crazy. He would just be like, yeah, man, you want to work here? And people would be like, yeah. He'd be like, you want to be part owner of their company? And a lot of people were scared. They didn't know what that meant. And so they said no. They didn't know without even taking the next step, but that kind of sounds scary to them. And so I think also what it meant was probably that you're going to work for free. So imagine that.

Yeah, you might work here for free. So imagine that, you know, you're, yeah, you might work here for free for three years. It could be 10 years. And we don't really know this protein bar company. We don't know what it's going to do, but we think it's going to be in every 7-Eleven in the country. And we think it's going to be at every airport and every supplement store. You're like, can I just get paid at least a little bit? I would hate to be the person that said no. I know. Gosh. Gary Vee talks about saying no to Uber twice.

Yeah. And then finally taking advantage of it the third time he was approached. But saying that, he's like, I could have bought the Jets by now. time he was approached but saying that he's like i could have bought the jets by now i don't think i i don't think i've heard grant cardone talk so clearly about his uh some of his philosophy there about about homes and it was great that you had a real world example to uh to throw his way where you guys were actually talking yeah numbers and everything i don't i don't i mean i'm sure it has probably come up before but i think what we just heard is like, you know, investment information that you either have to get from like one of his books or one of his courses, you know, which could be pretty expensive. So that was cool to hear.

And also, he wasn't really against buying a house necessarily. He just wanted to make sure it's right for the individual. It's right for the person. And I think it makes sense i think he what he's you know what he was what he said it was that you know you're you're being sold this dream that potentially is just not is just that it's just kind of a dream and you you don't have the ability to really turn that into maybe what you originally thought you know using using your parents original parents' original home, using my parents' original home, your parents' original home. It's like,

odds are like our parents don't live there anymore. You know? So, I mean, that, that alone, uh, could potentially show you that maybe it's, maybe it's just not what you thought it was. That's all. It doesn't mean that it's worthless. It just means that you should probably understand that when you move into a home that you're going to move every couple of years, which is very common. Most people do. You know, we I kind of just let my I just go with the flow with what my wife wants to do.

But like, I don't care where we live or, you know, what what house we're in or, you know, we're getting our bathroom done right now. And we live, our house is pretty big. So, we live on the other side of the house. I don't ever see this other bathroom. And she's like, did you go in there and check it out? She's like, it looks so cool. She's like, it's going to be amazing.

And I was like, I haven't looked in there. I was like, I'll look in there when they finish it and i'll be like cool yeah that's so this is this is a nice place to take a dump yeah that just instantly reminds me of uh chris delia was on someone else's podcast and like he was just joking about how much money he makes and blah blah and they're like dude how big is your house like how many rooms do you have and he's like i don't know it's like that's how big it is he's like i can't count all the rooms so it's just reminding me of that mark saying like i don't know i don't really go to that bathroom i don't know what's going on yeah i don't go to

the west wing or whatever side that is i know it takes about 40 seconds to walk from one side to the other i know that i was testing that out one day. I was like, this house is really long. How the fuck? How long is this taking? Just walking normal takes 40 seconds. That's a test you can try at home. Yeah. Are you going to put another one of those awesome bidets in there?

Lay down a track right down the middle of it. Some turf. Yeah. Yeah, I have a couple of them in there. That's cool. Mm-hmm. Yeah, the bathroom that we're in right now, though, doesn't have the electric toilet seat. So, like, when I go to use the bathroom in the middle of the night, I have to actually lift the lid myself. How are you guys managing?

I'm going to throw my back out any day now. I mean, normally I just hit the button on the remote. It's like right on top of the remote. You just hit the button. Dude, the sacrifices Mark's making to keep this podcast alive does it warm itself the toilet seat yeah yeah you know what's funny is i was talking to angelo and angelo was asking me about i don't know how we got talking about this these uh seats but um he mentioned that he has one he's like i have one of those things i was like oh cool and uh he said he had some you know like one that he has one he's like i have one of those things i was like oh cool and uh he said he

had some you know like one that he got off amazon or something i think he said it was like 20 bucks or something i was like holy crap that's amazing and uh and he goes yeah he goes but the water's cold i said what i was like the water that you wash with is cold he's like yeah and he goes yours is like temperature controlled i said yeah you can set like what temperature you want it to be whether you want it to be like warm or you want it to be like hotter or whatever the water in the bowl the water that squirts your butthole oh yeah okay okay and then also the uh seat you know the seat you can make the seat warm the uh air that dries you you can make that warm there there are some drawbacks to this thing

though i mean it is a it is a great invention great product but if you have that air blowing at the wrong time then you're just getting a big old waft of poop smell right in your face oh my god oh and this is how the this is how the wave whole wave thing came up i'm sure grant cardone appreciates us talking so much about poop on the podcast that he was on can't wait to send it to him but uh my um i was on the toilet the other day and i had i had like multiple waves hit me on the on the toilet all in one sitting you know that's That's what I call the one and a half wave. Yeah. It's not a magnesium heavy day, by the way.

Yeah, it might've been. Probably. So I came out of the bathroom and I told Andy, I was like, I just had like, I just got hit by three waves at once. She's like, it doesn't work that way. And I was like, well, what do you mean? And she's like, well, you know, each wave has to be like separate from each other. And then she said that she's like, you have to like get done, clean up.

She's like, I know what you talk about on the show. She listens now. Yeah. She's like, I know what you talk about on the show. And she's like basically telling me how my own wave theory goes. But it was kind of funny because she, she like laid down all the rules for it. She's like,

you got to be cleaned up. You got to exit the bathroom. She's like, and then she's like, that's not even enough. But the real start of the next wave is when you go to do something else. Cause that signifies that you thought you were in the clear, you know,

like I thought this was over. I did my business. I cleaned up. And then you just go to make a cup over i did my business i cleaned up and then you just go to make a cup of coffee or you go to sit down and uh do some emails and you're like i gotta go again just like gender the wave is a spectrum let me explain like i i get what andy's saying there uh but i feel like a wave still has to go to a board yes that's so that's what i was gonna say i'm glad andy's speaking us speaking up for us because we now have a voice that can go to the committee yeah to help put this in legislation yeah no but i want to hear this counter yeah

because i me and you have definitely had this experience you're pooping together done you get up maybe you haven't even cleaned yet but then the drop happens and then it's like oh oh i didn't even realize so in my head because of how i feel like i i thought i was done but that other wave hits and then i gotta go so i don't even have to leave this stall i thought i was done but i wasn't so there's a second wave so if you identify as being done you identify as being done okay you see yes that's two that's 2020 this is 2020 wave theory yeah i would say yeah if you got off the toilet that's pretty good yeah the other day you stayed on the toilet you just kept going think about think about throwing up right you know so you you throw up like oh cool you'll say i i threw up three times

last night but it's usually not like it's it's you're not in the bathroom the whole time usually you puke you go to lay back down you get up puke again right so i puked three times last night if we if we relate the poop to puke so i i think we need a time period between waves i think that's what's going to fix everything. It could. Yeah. Because sometimes it heals all wounds. Cause, Oh God. No,

I was gonna say, cause my thing was like, I had texted you guys. I'm like, Oh, I had one and a half waves this morning. So in my opinion, that's when you're done clean up. You haven't gotten up,

but then all of a sudden now it's like, Oh, there it is again. And then you're now pooping on top of the toilet paper that you use. That's what I would consider a half wave because you didn't get up, but you definitely cleaned up because you were done. We need to have a Hootenanny podcast about this so the audience can weigh in. Yeah. Andrew, how long did it take until you did have that half wave?

I'm just curious. Think about the time. Well, okay. So you're done. And then the time it takes to wipe, I don't know. Okay. Used a wipe itself also, so not that much time. I don't know.

I don't know. I haven't clocked my speed when it comes to wiping. I see that for a reason. We're in the modern age. People have phones. Majority of people, you're on the toilet, you finish up, but that video has like four or five minutes left. So you're just chilling.

You're like, I'll wipe my butt afterwards. Video finishes, you get up, that video has like four or five minutes left so you're just chilling you're like i'll wipe my butt afterwards video finishes you get up boom wave hits right so like you know this is what i'm saying i feel like there has to be we need to dictate what is the time of which you finish the first wave to when a second wave would count is it like one minute you think you're done but one minute later wave hits would that that be a second wave? I think there has to be a descent from cheek to toilet seat. I think it has to be raised. For me, it's the inconvenience. It's the worst. Yeah, you thought you were done.

You got out of the bathroom. You put your clothes back the way they were and everything, and you think everything's all good to go. And you're just walking out of there, and then all of a sudden another wave hits that's to me i think that's that's that's how i define my waves yeah you know but different people have different waves it's 2020 you know it's the wild we gotta be open we gotta be open to the fact that people are gonna you know have different buttholes we can't give participation trophies for second waves though. That's true. We need

a wave theory. We literally need to dictate a wave theory. There he is. There's a guy who invented wave theory. Yo, yo, that's insane. That's a dude that has a wave theory. If anyone's inventing wave theory, it's Andrew Zaragoza over here.

I think he has the most experience and the most training he taught me how to run taught me how to run when you gotta take a shit knees have to be bent yes

actually that's great it helps it just if you stiffen out the kneecaps you're done it's dangerous nope nope

that's and this is why we don't have as much money as Grant Cardone and I was gonna say because we literally talk shit if anyone's curious why like I don't know how come they don't have as much money as Grant Cardone. And I was going to say, if anyone's... Because we literally talk shit. If anyone's curious why, like, I don't know, how come they don't get The Rock on? It's like, well, funny thing. Here we go.

This is why we can't have nice guests. This is true. We wouldn't have it any other way. Nah, you gotta, yeah. You gotta have some locker room talk in there, here and there, right? Damn it. It happens. Yep. All right, let's get this thing here and there, right? Damn it. It happens. Yep.

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I think he's fun. I'm at Mark Smelly Bell. Strength is never weakness. Weakness is never strength. Catch you all later.