Mark Bell's Power Project - EP. 515 - UFC Recap, Post Meet Blues and Tasting Your Fluids???

Episode Date: April 27, 2021

Back from watching the first live UFC with a crowd in over a year, we recap the card and remember some of our favorites from years past. There were a bunch of records broken recently, Mark and Nsima t...alk about how to get over some of the "post meet blues" and unfortunately, Nsima brings up the question if we've ever tasted our own.... fluids. Apologies in advance. Subscribe to the NEW Power Project Newsletter! ➢ https://bit.ly/2JvmXMb Subscribe to the Podcast on on Platforms! ➢ https://lnk.to/PowerProjectPodcast Special perks for our listeners below! ➢LMNT Electrolytes: http://drinklmnt.com/powerproject ➢Piedmontese Beef: https://www.piedmontese.com/ Use Code "POWERPROJECT" at checkout for 25% off your order plus FREE 2-Day Shipping on orders of $99 ➢Sling Shot: https://markbellslingshot.com/ Enter Discount code, "POWERPROJECT" at checkout and receive 15% off all Sling Shots Follow Mark Bell's Power Project Podcast ➢ Insta: https://www.instagram.com/markbellspowerproject ➢ https://www.facebook.com/markbellspowerproject ➢ Twitter: https://twitter.com/mbpowerproject ➢ LinkedIn:https://www.linkedin.com/in/powerproject/ ➢ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/markbellspowerproject ➢TikTok: http://bit.ly/pptiktok FOLLOW Mark Bell ➢ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/marksmellybell ➢ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/MarkBellSuperTraining ➢ Twitter: https://twitter.com/marksmellybell ➢ Snapchat: marksmellybell ➢Mark Bell's Daily Workouts, Nutrition and More: https://www.markbell.com/ Follow Nsima Inyang ➢ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/nsimainyang/ Podcast Produced by Andrew Zaragoza ➢ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/iamandrewz #PowerProject #Podcast #MarkBell

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Starting point is 00:00:00 You know that in SEMA. We'll still be your friend. Yeah. You don't need to make up stories to us. Well, we just put up a YouTube video on the Super Training channel where it said I take loads of Tren. I legit said I take loads of Tren. Do you? No, just a little bit, man.
Starting point is 00:00:15 Wait, which video? I want to see this. You know what, though? People make such a big deal about Tren, but Tren Ballone is naturally produced by the body. So, you know, I don't see any problem with it really natural this is a new factoid for me that well they just found out oh really today this morning you didn't see the report that's why there was so much trend in my blood because i just naturally it's also it's also found in eggs and my understanding is you eat a lot of eggs right a lot of eggs single day duck egg specifically more so than anything else but eggs nonetheless my mom's been feeding me eggs since i
Starting point is 00:00:49 was like three years old hard boiled goat brain too and goat head yes i do eat lots of goat so that's why there's trend in me i didn't realize that guys i'm joking it's like how how we're live right yeah now we are goats are pretty scared of en Encima I've seen it happen bruh oh my god remember that Andrew what's that remember that goat fucking jumped over that fence one time when he saw Encima you remember that it's cause it knows that I would slaughter it
Starting point is 00:01:16 well it was funny cause like drooling and shit we all have guns and shit we're shooting stuff that goat's like whatever and then Encima comes out it's like nope I'm out yeah smell the Nigerian on me yeah we love goat meat goat meat is good if you guys haven't had goat meat you should try it i don't think i've ever had goat meat you should try it it's pretty damn good is it comparable to anything else lamb or something like that or no lamb lamb is softer goat meat isn't necessarily tough it's just uh it's uh i don't know i don't know
Starting point is 00:01:50 what i could compare it to if i if anything i can compare it to beef i can compare it to like steak so but it's good the guy who fought this weekend is he nigerian too usman yeah kamaru he is yeah he is damn he's a bad motherfucker That punch was crazy I was really thinking actually Masvidal would win Because remember in their last fight He didn't come in shape But he still went all rounds with Usman So it made it interesting
Starting point is 00:02:16 Yeah, and this time he was prepared But Dude, Kamaru Weren't you saying he just started boxing like not that long ago or learning how to how to throw punches or was that someone else maybe that must have been someone else but he just doesn't have that much experience and you can tell with like some of the punches he was throwing where he was like really reaching he just seems so this man just seems he just seems so strong yeah yeah i don't know like mean, it's probably a combination of good technique, unbelievable
Starting point is 00:02:45 quickness and explosiveness, and he probably is really fucking strong. His chin is something else. Do you, do you guys remember the Kobe Covington fight? Yeah. With Kamaru Usman? Remember how many times Covington, like, got his chin, and he was just like, damn. He was just getting hit and looking back at him? Like, his
Starting point is 00:03:02 chin is, it's just ridiculous how he can take hits. Yeah, I saw some video of why they thought he did that. And it's like they say there's a lot of give and take, right? Like, well, if you take a lot, you can gain a lot, but you're also risking a lot. So in the case of his fight with Covington, I don't know who's southpaw, but the whole objective is to try to keep, if Nseem and I are squared off and his left foot's out and my left foot's out,
Starting point is 00:03:31 I need to try to get my left foot beyond your front foot in some way. I need to try to get outside of that. And so he would take a shot just so that he would be lined up with his midline of his body in perfect position for him to throw a straight right. So he was like, I'll take a jab, you know, I'll take a hook here and there. It's not that big a deal. And he was kind of partially blocking him, but you're right. He was taking some, he was taking some good shots, but when he would give a shot, it was like way more impactful. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:03 And he's like, his streak right now is something crazy i think it's like a 17 fight win streak now dude it's insane and then um that wage waging whatever who had a 21 fight win streak and she got kicked in the head in the first round from her name yeah way uh yeah we're bad people for not remembering one of the fucking dopest fighters but yeah yeah i did not i mean i knew that was gonna be a brawl but dude i'm happy for thug rose and like she looks like she loved it too you know like that's so cool to see that it's like i'm the best that shit that shit was motivating it was like oh yeah it was yeah uh and she started crying it was hit the heartstrings What about Bones Jones
Starting point is 00:04:45 You know People forget Y'all must have forgot People are sleeping On Bones Jones I don't know why How is that even possible I don't know
Starting point is 00:04:53 Fuck But now he's Training with Rhino Yeah Shit's about to pop off I think And then Rhino Did you guys see Rhino
Starting point is 00:05:01 Beat him in the sled competition That's Bones like making fun of him Telling him that he's guys see Rhino beat him in the sled competition? Bones is making fun of him, telling him that he's old. And then Stan beat him. I don't know, they did something that would be impossible for Bones Jones to win, probably. Knowing Stan. But Stan was like, I beat him. He's like, that's all that matters.
Starting point is 00:05:19 Who cares? You can say he beat Jon Jones. That's right. It was so great seeing the crowd at that UFC card, though. It was so much more exciting. The boos were interesting, though. It's like the way, whatever. I think people like to boo champs because the way, whatever her name is.
Starting point is 00:05:37 Oh, my God. I feel so horrible. I think that was just a case of USA versus China. USA versus China. But also, Usman was not like, it was the same thing with him he got a hell of booze that's because they're in Miami yeah or Florida wherever the fuck they were at sorry and um Masvidal's from Florida yeah oh that's his home yeah so he went into his own backyard and and whooped his ass yeah yeah I love how Usman was like use that first fight as an excuse that you didn't have that much time to train.
Starting point is 00:06:05 He's like, that's the only reason why you took the fight, because you were like, you thought you had nothing to lose. Yeah. But now what you got for the second fight. And it was quicker, too. Oh, God, that punch was crazy. It's got to be tough if you're another fighter and you, you know, you go against George St. Pierre, Usman, or Bones Jones, and you're like right there, like you're in contention to at least be in the same ring as them. And maybe at some point in your career, you start to get a little bit better. And maybe you can, like maybe Masadov can come back at some other time and have a third, even though he's gotten knocked out.
Starting point is 00:06:38 You know, maybe he could, but it's got to be hard to keep yourself in the game. Cause you're like, nah, that guy smoked me twice. Yeah. And he smoked me pretty, you know, bones Jones, uh, DC beaten DC multiple times. And you could say like,
Starting point is 00:06:54 ah, well bones might've been on shit or he tested positive. It's just like, I don't know. You could just reach for anything, but like, I don't know, beating someone twice,
Starting point is 00:07:03 you know, is that just not a not a fluke right no no yeah i don't know speaking of twice you had two steaks for lunch what did you have yeah i just mowed right through those i didn't even really mean for that to happen but i was like i'm kind of hungry and i was like i think i have some steak i didn't realize it was two so i just say i cooked up uh up a center cut and a filet. You guys aren't going to believe this. From a company called Piedmontese. Where, listen, hold on.
Starting point is 00:07:32 No way. Hold on to your panties. Too late. Andrew, hold on to Encima's panties. Encima, hold on to Andrew's panties. Try not to smell them. Do your best to not take a sniff. I just did jujitsu, so yeah. It's going to be rough.
Starting point is 00:07:46 Yeah. These are the only steaks that are this lean. They're lean enough for bodybuilders to take in. They're lean enough for people that are trying to count their macros. And normally, you have a ribeye or something like that, you're done. Your calories are done for the day. You got to call it in. But with these, they get about half the amount of fat, lots and lots of protein, and they're delicious. But what do they taste like though?
Starting point is 00:08:12 They taste like a hockey puck. No. That's what I thought. You've seen anything they taste like. That's what I, when I originally bought these at a grocery store, I thought they were going to, I was like,
Starting point is 00:08:21 this has got to be terrible. So I'm just going to buy about like one small one. And I'm like, there's no way this tastes good. Because I saw that it had half the fat of other steaks. And I was wrong. Shit's fucking tender, juicy, delicious. You guys got to try it out. And I would always like to note that there are a lot of good lean steaks there if you're dieting or trying to go low fat.
Starting point is 00:08:42 But they have some good cuts that have a good amount of fat too if you're someone who like is higher fat or you like a good amount of fat in your steak they have all those options too so there's a bunch of stuff there that you can pick from and there's ground beef that has more fat those hot pot yeah i ate five yesterday you ate five patties yeah so whenever i eat the hot dotty i eat the whole pack yeah it's awesome i love it what do you think that's like 2 000 calories it's a lot it's a lot of calories no it's just a lot and i had cheese on it too so of course dope love it cheese just adds more protein yeah not that and healthy fat we'll just say that but uh yeah so on top of all of this we can
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Starting point is 00:09:50 and he's gonna be getting jacked even more jacked than he already is did you see that um that Jake Paul tweet thing that happened okay so yes what with DC and everything like what the hell no he just got into some shit with DC at the fight but that that's me but he put out this uh I don't know if it was a tweet or something to dana right it's
Starting point is 00:10:09 yes where he was like i made more money off of my last fight than uh like i think 99 of your fighters make and only you know khabib connor and some other fighter made more than jay call in their fights he's like if you say you make the if you say that you're going to make the fights that people want to make you need to make the nganu jones fight and you need to pay your fighters more because there should be no reason why me why my i'm making more money than a majority of professional fighters and kind of has a point but yeah it's a business yeah i'd say there's a lot to it because like ufc and dana white and just the structure of how everything probably was in the beginning was probably, you know, they have a lot of employees and stuff too.
Starting point is 00:10:51 I'd imagine what's going on with this like boxing event. I probably just not, man, I mean, maybe I'm wrong. Probably it's not that many people involved. I would imagine that the UFC, like UFC has headquarters. How many people that work for the UFC make 100K or more? You know, how many executive level people are there? Making sure that everything's safe as far as protocols. Yeah, there's, I mean, you know what?
Starting point is 00:11:16 I understand what people are talking about. I get that they're trying to get, like, I would love to see the fighters make more money. they're trying to get, like, I would love to see the fighters make more money. But Dana White and the Fertitta brothers, along with, you know, Joe Rogan being like a, I guess an employee of the whole thing, but, and Joe Rogan's podcast, those guys have transformed fighting forever. They really did. They, like, it was nowhere. No one cared about it.
Starting point is 00:11:41 People didn't even really, I mean, in other countries, people watched it. You know, they had pride fighting championships and there was some like, yeah, there was, K1 was huge. They had some like underground stuff too, but like in the United States it wasn't a thing. When I was a kid, people would always talk about martial arts. Like, oh, I wonder what that martial arts guy would do against that like world's strongest man competitor or, you know what the uh what the wrestler would be able to do against the karate expert or whatever and dana white he fucking made that shit happen and it's it's unbelievable so i i'm always like just grateful
Starting point is 00:12:17 that the whole thing's even around because it got banned a bunch of times um even after like ufc one i think ufc like two or three had to be done in like alabama and it was like they had everything set and like people were like like people like flying to the event people were going they're like nope it's not here anymore it's not in colorado it's in alabama yeah they had like i mean he's gone through that through that stuff so many times. ESPN didn't recognize it as a sport. And now they bought it. Disney bought it. Yeah. ABC, Disney, ESPN.
Starting point is 00:12:55 ESPN did not reckon. They wouldn't report on it at all. They wouldn't even comment on it. They wouldn't even have it on the ticker. That's crazy. At the bottom. It's barbaric. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:03 It's the savage. have it on the ticker that's crazy at the bottom it's barbaric yeah it's the savage you know this is this is not you you know you uh you know putting up your hands against someone else and fighting him that way is not a sport that's what they thought and so dana white had to push through all that fucking bullshit i think he's a pioneer and a legend and i don't know how these guys can make more money because i would imagine you know the big a big part of the whole thing is figuring out how how to get as many people to buy the pay-per-view as possible and i think conor mcgregor kind of ensures that even now if conor mcgregor came back and just had some random fight against whoever he would crush it again yeah that's why like i mean jake Jake Paul's tweet right it makes sense that Jake Paul made the amount of money that he made off of that fight because he is like more famous than
Starting point is 00:13:50 Majority of USC fighters and people want to see people want to see him get beat up So it makes sense that he made that amount of money because like a lot of fighters They have to try to build a name for themselves. If you're a fighter that doesn't have a big following Well, you know it the amount of draws that you're going to get onto the sport, it's going to be hard for you to be able to make that much. You know, that's why Adesanya and these more famous fighters can make so much because they also bring a lot of eyes to the sport. Can give you another example. If Donald Trump and Biden were to have a pay-per-view fight. That would be legendary yeah
Starting point is 00:14:25 they would make more money than conor mcgregor ever made yeah they would you know what i mean like if they had no holds barred you know like it people for some reason they want to see like that was the essence and the beauty of the original ufc is not everybody really knew how to fight and everybody remembers tank Abbott. Tank Abbott is, he's still like my favorite fighter. He was 50-50. He was like 15 wins and 15 losses. And he went in there and he just threw bombs.
Starting point is 00:14:59 And a couple of times when he got tapped out, he was like, that's weak. He's like, come on. He's like, come on, seriously? You're going to grab ahold of my foot and twist it? He's like, yeah, I had to tap out because you break my foot. He's like, I get it,, come on. He's like, come on, seriously? Like, you're going to grab a hold of my foot and twist it? He's like, yeah, I had to tap out because you break my foot. He's like, I get it. But come on. Let's actually fight.
Starting point is 00:15:12 Like, you know, he's like men. Yeah. He thought it was she thought it was like cheap, you know, but obviously you learn later on, like what jujitsu is and all that stuff. But I think people love that. It was so unconventional. It's like, what's this big fat guy? I think people love that it was so unconventional. It's like, what's this big fat guy. You know,
Starting point is 00:15:25 they had one of the first fights. There was some guy who was like 350 pound, like sumo wrestler looking dude. And he went against a guy. Oh man, I can't, I can't remember the guy's name. Um,
Starting point is 00:15:37 he's like a legendary kickboxing guy, but the guy just sidestepped the sumo wrestler. The guy, the sumo wrestler must've weighed four or 500 pounds. He was huge. He just like sidestepped him aso wrestler the guy the sumo wrestler must have weighed four or five hundred pounds he was huge he just like sidestepped him as he was charging you thought you thought the guy was dead because the sumo wrestler came right at him and all the guy did was sidestep him just a bit and just threw a kick and it was over the guy's tooth went flying out in the front row the guy's nose was completely bloody and he's like holding his face on the ground you're like
Starting point is 00:16:03 what holy crap you were like yeah you were like what was that yeah it's like holding his face on the ground. You're like, what? Holy crap. Yeah, you were like, what was that? I don't know. You hear a lot about technique and all these different things, but you're like, that ain't going to hold up against some big fat guy who's like mad. You're like, that shit ain't going to work. See if you can
Starting point is 00:16:20 try to pull it up, Andrew. I'm trying. It's Gerdau or something or man, i can't remember the dude's name it'd be like like ufc one two three like yeah it's like ufc one i think i think it's ufc one i think it's the first fight out of the gate i think oh god and it like made me a believer from day one i'm like i'm in i hope we can see this i really do i'm in on this but that's the crazy thing about like you you notice how like in a
Starting point is 00:16:45 majority of um ufc fights you'll see like oh uh first fighter in featherweight history to do this and every single fighter has like some type of historical thing that just shows how like new the sport is still because yeah every single fighter is doing something oh andrew you're the best oh is this the video or It's just the still. Yeah, but... You can find a video, right? I'll look for it. Maybe the guy's not 500 pounds. He's probably like 350 pounds.
Starting point is 00:17:12 He's not small. He's not small at all. Holy shit. Damn, I cannot... It's driving me nuts that I can't think of that guy's name because he's a legendary striker. Yeah, Gerard. Gerdau. There we go. That guy was a badass.
Starting point is 00:17:35 But yeah, those early days, it was super unconventional. There was actually one guy. This is the dumbest thing I've ever seen. One guy had a boxing glove on. Just a single boxing glove? Yes, a a boxing glove on just one? yes a single boxing glove I don't know he probably thought it was an advantage yeah here's like one of the first fights ever in the UFC I think oh my gosh oh lord
Starting point is 00:17:55 I need play by play that is a big boy in there that's a big octagon too oh yeah and oh cause he kicked him when he was down Oh, because he kicked him when he was down. Oh! I forgot that he kicked him when he was down. He got a good punch in there, too, and the guy's eye was all messed up.
Starting point is 00:18:13 God dang. Boop. Ka-ka. Whoop-a-m. Oh. Oh. Allie. George St. Pierre was saying recently that he thinks all that should be legal.
Starting point is 00:18:23 He thinks it should be, like like literally kind of anything goes. I think you need some rules like, you know, jujitsu, how cheap would it be for someone just to pull your fingers back, you know, just to wrench your fingers and get out. That would suck.
Starting point is 00:18:36 But I guess, I guess like, uh, I guess it would like maybe just change the sport a tiny bit. Cause then you would just dealing with broken fingers. People probably wouldn't mind it. And they'd probably like, right.
Starting point is 00:18:48 Cause you just certain things you just deal with in the sport. Like you said, your feet hurt real bad and your neck hurt real bad and your fingers hurt real bad. Yeah. Like, like horribly. Right.
Starting point is 00:18:56 Yeah. And then if someone breaks your finger, I don't know, they break your finger once or twice and then you don't ever have it happen again by figuring out ways of holding the gi differently or something but small joint manipulation and like i don't know some some of the you need some like you can't just go punching the guy on the balls the whole time can you no no yeah that'd be messed up that'd be messed up but like you'd be known for that guy that always goes for the sack hey but let's let's remember remember the the last mazalal
Starting point is 00:19:25 uzman fight the freaking foot stomps oh yeah see those things like stomping feet it's just it's toes fingers i mean shit and nah did you okay you guys remember the hammer fist that uzman put on mazalal in this past fight right this weekend after he knocked him out yeah oh those hammer fists yeah dude he like he didn't go light on those hammer fists like he was just like he went and he got good five good hammer fists in on mazda's face before that ends before it ended that shit just those that's just fucked man like i get it you gotta do it but the fighter's down and you just fist his face it's savage i wonder how you even like start to train for that sometimes because i would imagine in training it's like oh i clipped
Starting point is 00:20:12 the guy so you know you probably help him back up it's your buddy your training partner right hammer fist your training yeah right hopefully shit yeah but i i wonder like i guess these guys maybe this you're professional you go until the whistle right i mean you go until the guy like what i've heard in the ufc they say like don't go until you think it's over until the ref like pitter patters his hands on you have the ref pull you off of him completely because like some guys would do like fake bullshit like taps um that's kind of a strategy like shell sonan and some other guys will do like bullshit, like taps. That's kind of a strategy. Like Shale Sonnen and some other guys will do a little mini tap,
Starting point is 00:20:49 and they're like, what, I didn't tap. It's like, no, you fucking. So it's like if you have an opportunity to break the guy's arm, you unfortunately need to just go through with it as much as possible until the ref sees what you're about to do and can just slide right in there and just pull you off of him. Yeah. That's why you can't necessarily get mad at refs when they uh call things too early but um you got to keep the guys safe you have i don't want to see anyone's head bouncing off the
Starting point is 00:21:15 mat i like to see a good fight like see a good contest good knockout here and there but i don't i don't want to see the guy's head bouncing off the canvas. Yeah. It was Hoist Gracie, right? He was in the UFC first. Yeah. I remember watching just like a timeline of his career, and he was tapping a guy out, and then he kind of let up, and then the ref was like, oh, you're still fighting. Oh, careful. And then I remember after that that he would hold it the ref would call it and he'd be like are you sure like he would be like he's gonna be in pain now because
Starting point is 00:21:50 you fuckers missed it the first time and i just thought it was great because it's like yeah you you gotta keep going man until they rip you off people try that shit in jujitsu tournaments like they'll uh they'll fake tap you like they'll go like this and just in an angle so the ref doesn't see it and you'll let go but the ref didn't see it so they'll keep fighting it's people do that stuff so you gotta like when you have a submission gotta hold it until the ref comes in and takes you out because it'd be slimy like that that's super smart it is because you're probably trained to like yeah all right i gotta ease up yeah we're training we're trying to learn i got the guy in a good hold he tapped out but then you're kind of lose the fact that trying to learn. I got the guy in a good hold. He tapped out. But then you kind of
Starting point is 00:22:25 lose the fact that you're like, I guess when you're in a match, it's like a little bit almost more like an organized fight. And you got to treat it as a fight. Yeah. Interesting. I wonder like in Jiu-Jitsu, have you ever seen this? Has anyone just like lost their shit? What do you mean lost their shit?
Starting point is 00:22:41 Like just throwing a punch or kick? I've seen that happen. There's this guy named Herbert Santos. If you look up some of his, when he gets mad, he'll just, he turns into an asshole. That's why people don't like him. But you don't see that that much. Yeah. You don't see that that much.
Starting point is 00:22:58 It's only like real crazy. I'd recognize like you would just be banned from tournaments and shit. Yeah. Yeah. But like I could understand how it could happen Where you just But Frustrated That'd be the worst
Starting point is 00:23:07 You get more frustrated Then you get your ass kicked even more Oh god Yeah It's fun though That'd be rough That's like a A uh
Starting point is 00:23:16 Like a walking competition Where you just wanna start sprinting Yeah you just wanna start running Yeah fuck that You get your ass kicked in that too How about Daniel Bell? 11-13 squat. Wow.
Starting point is 00:23:29 Did you guys see that? I think I did. I did see that. That was deep. 11-13 pound squat in some knee wraps and a belt. I don't know what's going on anymore in powerlifting. It's crazy. It's got to be completely like, what is bones Jones deadlift?
Starting point is 00:23:48 I want to say I've seen bones Jones. Yeah. Pull around six 50. Right. And then you were just saying before we started the show today, there was a girl that, Oh my God. What did she,
Starting point is 00:23:56 uh, Hunter Henderson. So she squatted six 30, which was already breaking the record. The funny thing is, I think that the judge in front of her was the holder of that record, right? So she broke the record with her second attempt. And then on attempt three, she broke her world record at 650.
Starting point is 00:24:13 So it's like she is insanely strong. It's crazy. Hunter Henderson, she did how much of a squat? 650 at 165. Yeah. Let me see if I can so here's the uh 650 i know there's a page that posted it oh this is uh daniel bell or 1113 pound squat i believe jeez man those are some legs yeah mm-hmm you know daniel bell for a long time too. He wasn't wearing any sleeves or any knee wraps or anything. It just goes to show you these guys that build up this great strength
Starting point is 00:24:53 without wearing a lot of equipment. Once they do put some equipment on, they can be even that much stronger. Oh my God. Shout out to our boy Sully. Okay. For reals. 804 squat in knee sleeves. Just insane improvement from his last competition. I remember talking to him more recently. He was saying that he did a 770 squat in training. And he's like, man, I'm a little concerned about it because he's like, it kind of killed me. He's like, it kind of got the better of me.
Starting point is 00:25:25 And I was like, well, when's the last time you squatted? 770. He's like, my best squat previously is 716 or whatever that number was. It was quite a bit lower than 770. I said, dude, you're in uncharted territory. Your body's like, what are you trying to do to me? It's like, by the time meat rolls around, you'll probably be okay. We saw him today.
Starting point is 00:25:45 He successfully squatted 804. Seems like he's totally fine. Yeah. Not a scratch on him. Nice to be young, but your body starts to recover from that shit and you start to get used to it. You get that kind of accumulation. And that squat that he did, I don't know if you guys had an opportunity to see his squat,
Starting point is 00:26:01 but he took that thing to the basement. I was like, man, he could. I mean, you don't want to really encourage people to not squat as low, but don't squat as low. Because the 804 will turn an 848 quick. You let the judges, let the judges sweat it, you know? Let them have to figure it out. I'll just pull up Sully. Yeah, what a god damn beast.
Starting point is 00:26:26 Just in a pair of knee sleeves. I want to say, what is he, 21? I don't know. Look at that. Monstrous. Wide stance too for someone squatting that low like that. Yeah. He's the best big dude.
Starting point is 00:26:43 He did well on the bench too. He hit a 474 bench and then he missed a 501 bench god i mean in the previous meet we were talking about it this morning i think he only attempted like four i'm gonna mess it up but yeah maybe four low mid four ish it was like four so i don't i'm bad with remembering numbers but to jump that much it was like oh my gosh he put in some man he wasn't far off of being able to transition out of that 500 pound bench a lot of that 716 deadlift just crushed it that came out so quick and then the 760 just has a little tough time getting hips through with the lockout yeah i think the guy behind him spotting has a mullet. That's sick.
Starting point is 00:27:25 That's right there. Welcome to Nevada, everybody. Yeah. That's where they meet. Yeah, I think his total is like 2,000.6. Yeah. What did this girl deadlift? Is Hunter?
Starting point is 00:27:43 Hunter Henderson. What is she deadlifting? What's her IG again? Hunter M. Henderson. But I don't think she posted it. It was posted on Live Large. I DM'd you two of the videos for her squat. She deadlifted 573
Starting point is 00:27:58 at 165. That's the thing you forget about the girls. It's like they don't weigh that much. Mm hmm. Well, I looked up and the bar was already just like, you can't blink. What was that? And it seemed like the judge was like, oh, shit.
Starting point is 00:28:21 Let's see her squat. Let's see. I think that was her second attempt the third her third attempt on the deadlift it's like the judge didn't do the down command because she was holding that shit so long and then she had to drop it so this is 650 yeah like i mentioned she already broke their at time world record at 6 30 so she broke her own record in the same meet wow and the judge that's hugging her was the former record holder of that squat. And then Sarah, what's her, damn it.
Starting point is 00:28:52 Oh, yeah, yeah. So terrible. She deadlifts like crazy too. Six. Oh, I'll find it. How about that? Yeah, it's just the numbers that people are hitting in powerlifting, it's just the, the numbers that people are hitting and power thing. It's just gotta be,
Starting point is 00:29:06 excuse me. It's gotta be off the charts. And Seema, what do you think, um, are some like, uh, mistakes that maybe people that are in like grappling and maybe like MMA style
Starting point is 00:29:22 sports, what mistakes do you think they might be making with strength training, either in a going overboard and doing maybe too much of it and, or B just like not really entertaining how beneficial it could potentially be. It's B because the majority of people that are like really concentrating on grappling don't really come from a strength background. Um, and then when they do start strength training, they really just kind of like take it easy and they sprinkle it in. And it's not something that they take time to really try to progress. So they, they put all
Starting point is 00:29:53 of this intensity into their rolling every single day. They feel super tired. And because they put so much intensity into rolling four or five days a week, they don't have the actual energy to now go into the gym and do something progressive energy to now go into the gym and do something progressive like they go into the gym and it's kind of half-assed work um and it doesn't you're they don't allow themselves the space to progress it would be just much smarter for them to like you know just like in the gym we don't go heavy every single day that should kind of like be how i think grapplers need to approach the grappling there's certain days where you go more intense and you could train the same amount, but certain days you're more intense.
Starting point is 00:30:27 Certain days, maybe you train with lighter training partners that'll allow you to have good enough recovery so that now you can come to the gym the next day and get in a really good training session where you can push some good weight and really progress it. What percentage of people, uh, just in your experience at the gym that you're at, what percentage of those people train, do you think, like do resistance training maybe on a consistent, serious basis where it seems like they're heading in the right direction? Five percent. Yeah. I'd say maybe five percent, yeah. And do you think that's pretty common amongst other places?
Starting point is 00:31:02 Yes. amongst other yes other places yes unless it's like i would say unless it's like um i'd say even at gyms that that like it's a lot of competitors maybe it's 10 or 15 percent and maybe places where maybe if they're known for mixed martial arts do you think it might be a little different like maybe like our buddies at like combat sports academy and places like that you think it might be maybe slightly higher because It has to be because they have guys like Jesse Burdick around. Yeah, right. You know, when you have individuals that are specific, like their specialty is strength training, that's their specialty,
Starting point is 00:31:33 then yeah. But a lot of these grappling gyms don't have that. Maybe like Casio's, there's a gym in the back, but you don't see a lot of people really using it like they could. On the flip side, what are maybe some people that aren't doing some grappling type sports, maybe missing out on it, that they could get a lot of benefit from that could potentially carry over to their physique, their overall health, their just conditioning levels? Because it seems to me like it's worked
Starting point is 00:32:06 out great for you i know you're you're high you're getting to a high level in jiu-jitsu but um and doing jiu-jitsu being like i'm gonna go do jiu-jitsu for cardio like it's more intense than just that and there's a period of time where you got to acclimate to it so to even have it in your toolbox yeah you have to have a skillset of some sort, but what are people maybe missing out on that? I've never just really dabbled in it. This like I was having a, uh,
Starting point is 00:32:34 kind of a short discussion in the DMS with a homie of mine. Um, his name's a Kune Matata on Instagram. He's a coach, really strong guy. Um, really good coach. And he was talking about how, like, you, you know, when it comes to static stretching, research has shown that doing that can hamper your strength for up to a 24 hour period.
Starting point is 00:32:54 You know, if you if you static stretch and that is totally true. But I kind of take things out of that lens and look at things in the context. OK, well, are you a competing power lifter? You know, if you're a competing power lifter, okay. Maybe you don't want to stretch. Maybe you don't want to do like, you can still do, um, loaded movements. Like, uh, there's a split squat that he was showing that you could, uh, get into different ranges, but with low, so you can do stretching with load. But I think outside of that, um, um outside if you're a competing power lifter the are you someone who's moving three to five rep maxes every single training session
Starting point is 00:33:32 are you okay if you are but you're just training to train it's not a big deal to mobilize with weight and to mobilize with static or pnf which is it's not a good get to technical. Like if you're doing, if you're doing a stretching movement and let's say that you are stretching your hamstrings and you're flexing your hamstrings as you do it, flexing and relaxing, that allows you to get into a deeper position with those movements, right? I think that if you're not someone who's focused on moving the most weight possible all the time, there is no danger in doing some of these things and allowing your body to feel better over time. Maybe instead of squatting 405 that day, you squat 385. Is that really
Starting point is 00:34:12 the long-term? Is that difference going to be the thing that makes or breaks you progressing? No, but what could happen is you just feel better every day. So you sacrifice 20 pounds for feeling better. I would much rather feel better and move better than lift an extra 20 pounds. If I'm not competing in powerlifting, that's the way I look at it. Yeah. I think a lot of times with studies, you know,
Starting point is 00:34:34 they, they, they'll people whip out these studies all the time. And like, maybe it's true within the confines of the study, but how long was the study done for? Yeah. Who was the study done on?
Starting point is 00:34:46 You know, like, what if the person in charge of the study or what if the company or the group is looking for a certain result? we could maybe show, we could show a study that shows that stretching and after the stretching, 24 hours later you're weaker. But is it amongst people whom already stretch? Or is it amongst people that are brand new to stretching? Is it amongst people that are brand new to lifting? Is it to people that are conditioned with, because like I actually personally think, and some people sometimes think that this is crazy and that you go,
Starting point is 00:35:32 you know, all the way from one side, all the way to the other. But I think most of the studies are, I think most of the studies are fairly useless. And what I mean by that is there is some stuff we can extract from it. Yeah. There's definitely information there.
Starting point is 00:35:46 Probably be really cautious to extract something from a study and just say, hey, this is the absolute facts. When I listen to like Renaissance periodization, I listen to someone like Mike Israetel talking about the protocols of the rep ranges and hypertrophy volume, all these different things. He's pulling out a lot of research, but it's,
Starting point is 00:36:10 it's still general. Like Mike, I think does a pretty good job of like saying like, Hey, things should probably kind of be like in this bubble. But then if you were to say, well, I don't ever do that.
Starting point is 00:36:21 I do three sets of 30, you know, and you were big, he would, he would still have good explanations and reasons on why that was effective for you. And he would also say, well, yeah, it kind of falls in the confines of doing like a superset or an extended set or whatever it is that he would call it. But I think a lot of times people have, they take the research
Starting point is 00:36:39 and they like try to, I think don't ever use research as a crutch to not do something yeah like i think that's a mistake like i'm just not going to stretch because research shows that it potentially makes you weaker maybe it makes you let's just say let's say hypothetically that does make you weaker for how long for six months a year but what if two years later you're 10 stronger than you would have been if you didn't stretch now the stretching is massively beneficial now we're on you know so i don't really love listening to studies i like for people to expose themselves to stuff give something a try give something a shot and then see how you feel from there yeah i think
Starting point is 00:37:24 like you know not just that expression but a lot of things in the gym that show different types of movements kettlebell swings you know front and back walks i think we like maybe doing more lateral type movement too for general athletes like would just be better for movement because again i i think that even competing power lifters um not everything needs to just be in all of these single planes. I think that they could benefit from doing a lot of things that would just allow them to move better and feel better. And this doesn't need to be static stretching. This can be using loads to get into deeper positions. If that's what you'd rather do, that is still much more beneficial than, I don't know, just being super stiff, feeling like you're in pain. And, you know, I think you can get, I think you can definitely get out of that. Look at our boy Sully. You know, he's made a lot of great progress.
Starting point is 00:38:15 He's feeling pretty damn good every day. And you see the amount of work that guy does. Yes. I mean, he's doing a lot of different style of training. Yes. He's doing, you know, some straight up, just flat out power lifting stuff where sometimes he's doing a partial range of motion. Maybe he's doing overload work here or there, but he's also like up against the wall forever with his legs up, trying to like stretch and open up the groin, open up the hamstrings. He just does like any and every single thing you can possibly think of to get himself stronger.
Starting point is 00:38:44 like any and every single thing you can possibly think of to get himself stronger. And I only recall like so far one time in, I mean him improving his squat, like over 200 pounds. Um, I only recall one time of him having kind of a slight injury. The rest of the time he's been, he's been going at it pretty damn good at a,
Starting point is 00:39:02 at a good clip. So I think just introducing a little bit of stuff here and there, I think, uh, you know, make, make some sense in, in,
Starting point is 00:39:10 in what you're saying. I would also say like, especially if you like it, like you like something, if you like certain things like, um, just some like old football drills, you know,
Starting point is 00:39:21 old drills that maybe did for soccer where you run into your knees up high, you do the, uh, you kick yourself in the butt, you know, old drills that maybe did for soccer where you run into your knees up high, you do the, uh, you kick yourself in the butt, you know, um, you stride it out, you do a basketball,
Starting point is 00:39:34 you know, slide or whatever, you know, you just, why not incorporate some of these things? They feel good. They're going to keep you feeling good. And is it better to be more athletic or less athletic? It's better to hold onto that
Starting point is 00:39:47 athleticism. I bet you Daniel Bell, even though, uh, fully, uh, prepared to do an 1113 pound squat might not be the most athletic at that moment. I bet you in about two, three weeks, he probably moves a lot better than you would think. Cause to be able to handle that kind of training for that long to not get hurt and to be able to execute that lift, you need to be athletic. You need to be an athlete in some regard. Absolutely. And I think you kind of hit the nail on the head there. They should do things that they enjoy. Because I do understand, even Stu McGill talked about it, that there is a level of rigidity that a lifter probably should have in the spine when they're going to be handling crazy squats, right?
Starting point is 00:40:26 You probably don't want to be able to have the ability to just freaking wiggle all over the place. That's cool for being able to do jujitsu or just moving around in life. But for being a power lifter that wants to deadlift and squat the most weight possible might not be the best idea. But you should just try out certain things and see how it goes along with your training i think just the big thing is not overdoing anything too quickly so if you do add some stretching in with load don't go crazy with it go into a place where you feel pretty comfortable and work with that because i i think that like doing something like that as long as you're still continuing to strength train and continuing to progress, that shouldn't necessarily pull too much back from that, if at all. The amount of
Starting point is 00:41:12 comments that I see on people that do those Smooth Panther videos talking about, oh, I had all this pain, and now I don't. That is repeated over and over and over again. I'm just like, I see the benefit here. Again, if you're not a competing power lifter i don't see the hurt what's smooth panther videos just type in smooth panther on youtube it's like a 32 video playlist of mobility and stretching stuff on youtube so so i get what you're saying mark um kind of almost like ignorance is bliss like yeah if you don't if you read something you know what i mean you can talk yourself out of doing something, but what are maybe some things that someone should pay attention to if they're not paying attention to studies? And Seema kind of answered it like, you know, try it out and be careful.
Starting point is 00:41:54 Don't go too heavy, too hard. But what do you think there's some other, are some other pitfalls in regards to just kind of going in and, you know, saying, fuck what you heard? Yeah, it can be tough sometimes, you know, because there's the guy in the gym that benches the most, he may not necessarily know the most, but he's going to have some decent ideas on at least how he built his bench up. I think you try to gather information from anyone
Starting point is 00:42:23 and everyone that you possibly can. So you're not just, because anyone can kind of help speculate about like a diet or a training program. And somebody might think, really, anyone? Yeah, I seriously mean anyone. Because sometimes someone who's never even touched a weight before, they might ask a question that flips a switch in your head where you're like, oh my God, I didn't even know that people didn't know that, you know, or they say something so plainly where you're like, oh my God, I, I gotta, I need to use that. Like, uh, an example is, um, I was explaining to somebody what happens to people when they deadlift. And I was like, they round over quite a bit,
Starting point is 00:43:04 you know, and then they, their, their whole spine is really they deadlift. And I was like, they round over quite a bit, you know, and then they, their, their whole spine is really rounding over. And the guy was like, oh yeah, they look like a fishing rod. And I'm like, yeah, it looks like a fishing pole. It has like a huge fish on the, you know, that's what happens. And so I use that term and that's from a guy that doesn't lift. So you can get some great information from just about anywhere. Keep your mind open to it.
Starting point is 00:43:25 And if you are going to try something that somebody recommended, you know, I wouldn't say somebody says, Hey, you know what? This German volume training stuff's great. 10 sets of 10 squats with 10 sets of 10 leg curls in between, or I wouldn't advise like just diving right into that. You're going to get really sore and potentially even get hurt. Um, somebody starts talking about one rep maxes, you get all hyped up and you, you hear about powerlifting and stuff and you're like, Oh, that, that's what I need to do. Same thing. I would just, what have you done before? Whatever you've done before,
Starting point is 00:43:58 I would kind of baby step your way, your way into it. But that's, that's a really hard thing to do is to try to decipher out what's going to be in your best interest and what's not. But I don't think there's any harm in any of it as long as you start slow. If you start slow, start with weights that are light, do some of your own research. Someone talks about a way to deadlift or a way to squat, ask another question on top of that or look at another person doing that lift. And I don't know, just kind of make sure that you have the information needed to move forward before you do something and get hurt. I mean, I think that's a great thing with like how I see you train, because like whenever we have a guest that brings something like Ben brought a lot of stuff or even your progression from 330 to 240, like everything was a gradual addition.
Starting point is 00:44:49 Even when Ben had you doing the backwards walking initially, you knew how to modulate yourself in terms of, I'm going to take this. This is the speed I'm going to be going at with this today. I'm not going to push it hard. You know what I mean? So that's what you do. You add things in, but you don't add it in so quickly or so intensely that you fuck yourself up. I think it's important that people have the ability to kind of be a pussy in a way.
Starting point is 00:45:12 Yes. You know, like, yeah, yeah. You got to, uh, you got to really be like a weenie about it.
Starting point is 00:45:20 Sometimes. Is it, is it a weenie or put, I'm confused. Yeah. Yeah. It's both. Small weenie or pussy. Yeah. One of the two.ie or I'm confused? Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's both. It's both.
Starting point is 00:45:27 Small weenie or one of the two. Yeah, I think, you know, sometimes you got to be like not super pumped about the amount of weight you moved for that day. You know, if someone says, hey, you know what's a great exercise is bend over rows with dumbbells. And you go all the way down to the floor and let the weight touch the floor, like where your knuckles are like on your shoes. Sure. That's probably is a great exercise. Is that a great exercise to start with a hundred pound dumbbell, you know, a hundred pound dumbbells? Probably not. Like it would be good. Like why not do it at the end of a workout? You already got a good workout in, so you don't have to be frustrated with trying this new thing that you're not sure how it's going to work and grab the 20s and try that and see how that feels
Starting point is 00:46:09 and then say okay i can see how this could be a good exercise i'm going to throw this in my next workout and i'm going to use the 40 pound dumbbells for three sets of 10 yeah to see how it feels you know really try to like be able to get a gauge you know i always thought that people make so much such a big deal about your warmup, but I don't think your warmup really matters that much. I think what matters is that you get a little diagnostic test of where you're at for the day. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:35 Where am I at for the day? You know, like, where's my body at for today? So let's just say you were planning on doing like a heavy squat. You woke up, you felt kind of stiff. You're like not really sure what's going to happen. Why not go in the gym and just say, I'm going to warm up the area around my elbows. I'm going to, that's involved in the squat, right? Like, so, and it's easy.
Starting point is 00:46:59 It's easy to warm that up. It's not always easy just to pop right into a squat out of nowhere. It's not always easy just to jump right into a squat out of nowhere. It's not always easy just to jump right into a lunge out of nowhere. So do a couple curls and then wander on over to the seated row. Do a couple reps of seated row. All right. I think I feel pretty good. Or, oh, my God, like, I kind of have a headache.
Starting point is 00:47:18 I don't really feel that good. Let me do a couple sets of, like, lat pulldowns. Or let me go warm up my legs a little bit with the sled or leg extension. Now you have a little diagnostic, you have some information. Oh shit. Like, you know, you don't want to be talking yourself out of the squat workout, but maybe your knee just doesn't feel that great. That happens a lot of times, probably because you are trying to talk yourself out of it. but if your knee is bugging you, your hip is bugging you, you can say, all right, well, I'm just going to,
Starting point is 00:47:47 I came in here on Sunday and was squatting, and I just, I squatted a plate, and even a plate felt like two plates. Two plates felt like four plates. Like, it's just one of those weird things where I'm like, that's really strange. I haven't really been squatting that often, but it shouldn't really feel that heavy.
Starting point is 00:48:10 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And so what I did is I did one plate twice. I did two plates, like three times. My brother's like, you're not going to go up,
Starting point is 00:48:17 try not to fall for the bait. You know, he's, uh, he kept going up and wait, I had to kind of take the weight off, you know? And eventually I got to
Starting point is 00:48:25 275 and 315 and 365 and 405. And eventually I got like five plates on there. And it felt great. But it took a long time. Normally it doesn't take me that long to warm up. But on that particular day, that is just what was going on with my body. And if I did repeat one plate and two plates, and it just felt like it wasn't in the cards, I just would have stuck with higher reps. Yeah. And I would have got my challenge through doing higher reps rather than trying to get any
Starting point is 00:48:54 sort of weight on my back. No, that's, that's, it's a really, really big thing for people to understand. I think actually that kind of falls in line with, um, a lot of people just finished up competing this past week, right? Um, some people, maybe they did great and they're happy. Some people didn't hit what they wanted on the platform. And I think a tendency of doing that is coming into your gym on the next training days and going for that. Um, what, what do you, what would your advice be for lifters post-meet? Like, let's say they don't know what they want to do. They don't know how they're going to handle things. You've done countless meets. What is the best way to handle things physically and mentally for the next month or a few months?
Starting point is 00:49:32 I think the best thing to do is to get back into the gym and is to train, but with very, very modest intensity. It would also depend on your level. intensity. It would also depend on your level. You know, if you're at a high level, then you're going to want to back off a little bit more. But I think it's important if you're someone that's like really, it's important that the work that you do matches your mindset and your beliefs. So some people might believe differently than what the way I believe. My belief though is, um, I always like, I like to push. I like to really just the activity of the stuff that I'm doing makes me feel productive, whether it is or not.
Starting point is 00:50:19 It's very much debatable. Yeah. But I would rather go in the gym the next day like if i lifted on like a saturday i'd rather be in the gym the next day on a sunday just walking around with the sled seeing some of the team talking shooting the shit maybe doing a little bit of work just to get movement in much the same way you would do uh before the competition hit a couple days prior you're just kind of moving around you're not really trying to lift the world. But that's what's always worked well for me.
Starting point is 00:50:49 And one thing I will note is that what I have noticed is that if you start lifting, lifting right away, sometimes you're actually really strong, kind of almost like a bodybuilding type thing where the guy's like three days after his contest and everyone's like, dude, you look way better now than you did. You're like, fuck, you know, that, that kind of stuff happens in powerlifting too. You get this like, plus maybe you were nervous for the competition. There's all kinds of shit that can happen, but
Starting point is 00:51:17 you get this kind of like delayed response. Your body sometimes has some lag time and there you are two weeks later, you're way stronger than you were at the competition. But what I noticed is like that two or three week timeframe after the competition is where most people get fucked up. That's where most people get hurt. people that are on peds what they'll do is they take the they take their peds uh later than than they should have not recognizing how long that process takes to like sit in your body and register and to become like actual part of your training and there they are like a month later they're way stronger but because they've been pushing so hard for so long now, now we're getting like the 20 week range of pushing hard or something like that. Now this is where we tear a bicep or tear a hamstring or something like that. So a post competition, whether you feel rotten about how you did or whether you feel really good about how you did, I would proceed with caution. I would take about a two week timeframe and, uh, just start to
Starting point is 00:52:28 evaluate what it is you want to do next. What do you want to compete again? Do you want to do a bodybuilding show? Do you want to just chill? Once you've made that decision, that's when you're going to step your training back up, but don't make any decisions until, until that time, just enjoy yourself, pick exercises that you like you like to leg press and do curls and you like to do machines and shit like do all that stuff get all that stuff out of your system because you might end up right back into training again where you're going to have to do a bunch of things you probably don't always enjoy doing yeah i think that's one of the biggest, that's the biggest thing right there.
Starting point is 00:53:05 You know, you just finished competing, right? Take the time to do some things you haven't been doing or do some things you've maybe been interested in doing. Let's say you just want to do some snatch grip deadlifts. It's just something that's been interesting to you. Go do some light snatch grip deadlifts. You know,
Starting point is 00:53:17 let's say that you're, you're, you love incline pressing, incline barbell pressing. Spend a few weeks and work on your incline press, right? Take the time that you're not now prepping for a meet again to progress some like front squats. Maybe progress that a little bit because a lot of these things can potentially help with maybe some
Starting point is 00:53:36 weaknesses that you might've had on your main lifts on the outside. And they're kind of new stimulus. So like maybe they'll progress a little bit faster. They'll bring a little bit more excitement to your training, a little bit more excitement to your training, a little bit more interest to your training. And that can be something that helps fire you up for the next time you set your goal for the next meet that you're actually going to do. Okay. Maybe you,
Starting point is 00:53:53 okay. The next thing you want to do is 24 weeks out. Okay, cool. Spend a good, you know, 12 weeks or whatever, maybe eight weeks,
Starting point is 00:54:01 just enjoying a bunch of different progressing, a bunch of different things in the gym and doing different movements that could really help with your overall progress. You know, the Russians did a lot of like, you know, we were just talking about studies, but the Russians, like they, they really, the Russians and the Bulgarians, it wasn't really like, it wasn't necessarily like studies. It was like more like observations of, of the people that they were working with. And they, they took notes on everything. They took notes on like what it looked like when the guys drank milk before a workout, what it looked like when the guys ate only steak before a workout, eggs, like just, they
Starting point is 00:54:41 tried every single thing. There was a lot of like money on the line. There's a lot of like, almost like fame on the line. These people would be treated like royalty if they got it right. Because these strength coaches and strength in Russia and Bulgaria is like a thing. Like in some of these other countries, it's a rite of passage. Strong's people are some of the most famous people. Like really, they really love them
Starting point is 00:55:05 like it it's just hapthor bjornson is is the rock in his country i mean people like people go absolutely crazy for that guy so when when the russians and the bulgarians and some of these uh kind of eastern bloc countries would prepare for our olympic uh for the olympics and olympic lifting they just did just threw as much stuff as they could at their training to try to see some of the things that would work best. Bulgarians would train three times a day. They'd try that for a while to see what that would do. And they ended up with just a lot of information that you can
Starting point is 00:55:43 pull stuff from. However, even in pulling stuff from them is sometimes a mistake because you have to recognize these are Olympic level athletes. And so same thing when we're looking on Instagram, we're looking for inspiration. Like I'm going to do Bradley Martin's workout. Well, Bradley Martin can jump over a car. You ever seen a motherfucker do that? Like that guy's athletic as hell. He's really strong.
Starting point is 00:56:07 He hasn't really messed around with much powerlifting, but I think I've seen him deadlift 700 pounds. I mean, there's so a lot of the people that we follow, it's great to be inspired by them. It's great to be fired up by them, but also be a little cautious on like what you're picking, who it's coming from and how you get into it.
Starting point is 00:56:27 The one thing I'll say too about post-meet stuff, some of the things the Russians found out is that, especially in the higher trained athletes, it takes like three weeks to recover from high-level competition. And I think they found this across the board in any of the sports that had high intensity. Somebody like James Smith, the thinker, can come on here and give us a much better explanation but takes three three weeks to almost a full month for your body to really truly recover from high level competition so someone might say hey man how you feeling after that jiu-jitsu competition yesterday you might be like i feel great that's the athlete mindset coming out on yesterday you might be like i feel great that's the athlete mindset coming out on coming out for you speaking on your behalf saying you better tell this dude you're all right because he's gonna think you're pussy yeah you know what i mean and also it's your own mindset because you know that if you're like well you know what man like i i feel i feel I feel pretty beat up. Like I need to take a month off. You know, if someone
Starting point is 00:57:27 says that you're like, oh man, but that would, you'd have to be like really in tune with yourself. You'd have to be okay with, um, just, I don't know even what that mindset means. Like to me, to me, I don't, I don't like that mindset. So for me, I always got back in the gym, but I didn't lift heavy. I took my time with it because I know that the full recovery of your central nervous system, there's no substitute for it. It doesn't matter if you're on steroids. It doesn't matter if you take growth hormones. It doesn't matter what you do.
Starting point is 00:57:56 The only thing that's going to help your nervous system recover is going to be time. Obviously, nutrition and things like that, sleep. But you need a lot of time. So take, when you come back from competition, take your time. Yeah. I think that's, that's, that's a tough thing though. Like what you were mentioning at the beginning of that whole thing, when athletes come back and they feel even stronger in the gym than when they were at their meet, it takes a lot not to go ahead and go forward with that feeling, right? Not, not to go ahead and just load up as much weight as you can on the bar and see what you can do, because maybe like now you can start progressing again.
Starting point is 00:58:31 But I think it's much harder and it's going to be much more worthwhile if you do purposefully back off a little bit and you do personally lower the weight. You do just try to feel not as beat up for the next few weeks. Cause I think a lot of us, we get a good feeling kind of like, we feel like we've done something when we get out of a training session and we're just kind of wiped. Like, ah,
Starting point is 00:58:55 I'm not going to lie. I do like that feeling. I do like leaving that. Like, like I do like leaving jujitsu or leaving the gym. Just like I did some shit today. Right. But you're not always trying to seek that.
Starting point is 00:59:08 You're not all, you don't always want to be in that zone. Cause that's a very easy place for you to fuck yourself up. Yeah. Um, about how far out should they kind of circle the next meet? You know, like I heard,
Starting point is 00:59:21 you know, Sully talking about it today and I'm just like, Ooh shit. Like he's already, you know, he's, does he have, does have does he know how many weeks out he is and that's the thing i don't know for sure but that was just my first thought what that came to me was like i know he's he's a savage he's cut from a different you know cloth but yeah i'm just curious for people listening you know like what do you i mean is it like x amount per year or yeah per year is it like how do you feel?
Starting point is 00:59:45 Like, what do you think is a good recommendation for how long or how far out they should be, you know, planning for their next meet? You know, this is one of those, like, it depends situations, unfortunately. But what I would say is that it would be really helpful and useful for you to try to compete as much as you can within reason. Um, just to get like all the competition stuff out of the way, the jitters that some people have,
Starting point is 01:00:12 um, and also just getting like some real platform experience. But in general, I think people should probably only compete about three times a year, you know, start doing more than that. But if, but if it just gets to be too much, but if you're, if you're a younger lifter and you're just getting started, I don't see any problem with, um, competing often, you know, competing four or five times in a year. But I would only do that for like the first year or two.
Starting point is 01:00:41 Yeah. for like the first year or two. Yeah. The reason why I say that though is this, is because people put too much quote unquote weight on the competition. You know, they, they,
Starting point is 01:00:53 they are so, uh, they're so like worried about it and concerned about it. And it seems like almost no matter the result, they're always pretty disappointed. And you're like, well, that's not it. So if that, if your mindset is a little bit like that,
Starting point is 01:01:07 I would suggest that you compete more often because after a while, that'll dull a little bit and that's right where you need it to be. Your contests and how you perform in your contest isn't a result of, it's not a result of like your looks. It's not a result of your parents. It's not a result of your parents. It's not a result of what's in your bank account. It's a result of the work that you did.
Starting point is 01:01:31 It represents a body of work that you did. And if you come up short on a lift or come up short on several lifts, it's no indication that you're a bad person. You know, it's no indication that you're a loser person. You know, it's no indication that you're a loser or a big letdown to other people. But I think that's how much weight some people put into these competitions. And for me, because I was sort of like born into it,
Starting point is 01:01:54 I never really felt that. You know, I would go compete and someone would say, how did it go? And I would say, man, it kind of sucked. I missed most of my lifts. But anyway, I'm going to compete, you know, in about three weeks, I'm going to compete, you know, in about three weeks, I'm going to go compete again.
Starting point is 01:02:06 Cause I think I have some things I could fix up and, and if I did really well, I would say it went awesome, man. I, I made a, you know, seven out of nine lifts. I squatted a thousand pounds. I think I might've tweaked something in my back a bit, but I'm, I'm good. I'm going to start training again and I'll come'll come you know compete again in a couple months so for me like competing often i think helped a lot and because i competed so young i there's something there's something amazing about i guess what i'm trying to say here and i don't know how else you get the experience there's something amazing about
Starting point is 01:02:40 not giving a fuck there's something great about being super calm. I'm sure when you competed down in Long Beach, I'm sure you were nervous, but I didn't see any of that. You looked like you're like, I haven't seen you practice either, but you look the way you look in the gym. Like I'm showing up here. I got a certain amount of work to do today and, um, I'm going to get it done. It's going to go the way it's going to go the way that it goes because of my previous training. It's not going to go because of some spectacular thing that I pull out of my ass today or some pre-workout that you took in your car or something, you know?
Starting point is 01:03:17 So I think that's where people kind of lose sight. It, this is all, it's a by-product of stuff that you did for a long time. There's no reason to get too emotional about it. There's no reason to like cry about your deadlift or be so tied to it in that sense. Although I have been upset with myself to that point, but having gone through those experiences and being that frustrated myself, I kind of woke up and recognized, hey, man, this is not anything to act this way about. I need to act opposite of this. And I actually just need to figure out a way to problem solve and be more productive because my grip gave out on the deadlift. So why, you know, crying about it is going to put more tears in my hands and make my hands more slippery for the deadlift.
Starting point is 01:04:01 So how about I go train my grip, you know, or think about the things that you can train to go and fix it. I actually just shared with Sully. He missed a 760 deadlift and he missed a 501 bench. I said, that gives you awesome information for your next contest. Had he made those, he might not have the same information. He wouldn't be where. Is he going to bench 501 in the next meet? Is he going to pull 760?
Starting point is 01:04:25 I would say absolutely not. There's no way. He's going to do more because now he has the information. He's already in line to bench that weight. He wasn't that far off. He's already in line to hit that deadlift, but he's probably going to deadlift like 800 pounds in the next meet. He's probably going to bench like 520. Like he'll be way beyond that.
Starting point is 01:04:43 But had he not had that information, he might barely squeak out a 500 pound bench. He might barely squeak out a 760 pull. Yeah, I like what you're mentioning in terms of, it's funny because you have that kind of same idea as far as the diet's concerned. I've heard you mentioned to people like, you know, if you want to binge, just go fucking binge. Go get it all out of your system. Maybe actually have so much that it makes you kind of disgusted to want to do it again you know what i mean so it's like as far as competing is concerned
Starting point is 01:05:10 go do competitions because at some point you're just going to be like huh i should probably just train it's funny because like i kind of have a maybe a different viewpoint in terms of power lifting competing just because like especially when lifters are newer they have such a such this the ceiling of the amount of strength that they can gain that i'm just like do a few competitions but then like don't be competing all the time because like the more you have to prep the more you're peaking and it's just like all this time can actually be just spent training and gaining strength right but i do really like that i do really see that approach especially for a new new power lifter because they'll they'll do like five
Starting point is 01:05:49 competitions in a year and they'll be like huh well you know i i have a lot of progress i can make and okay maybe i know what competing is like already so i don't have to do it so much and i can just spend time progressing so just like rather than like trying to imagine how it feels and being, feeling like you're, you're left out of competing and get that out of your system. So you can really spend time training and seeing what you can actually achieve to that ceiling. I like what you're saying as well, though, because you might not give yourself an opportunity to really grow. You know, we see that with bodybuilding. Sometimes people, they want to bodybuild, you know, keep doing competition after competition. And it's like, dude, if you always stay like 150 pounds,
Starting point is 01:06:27 you're always going to be 150 pounds. It's going to be hard for you to get to 170 and 180. So maybe you should work on just like do your best to not compete for a while. I've actually had people come in the gym, um, years ago when we were years ago, when we were even like more entrenched and just actually competing in powerlifting and had people come in and like what do you think I should do and I always kind of felt like a jerk but like I felt like the main thing I should tell them to do is like go to another gym like go to other gy, like experience other gyms and go do sets of 10 on a bunch of different equipment with a bunch of different dumbbells and a bunch of different leg presses and a bunch of different leg curls.
Starting point is 01:07:14 Just come back a little bit beefier, you know, go eat some food. Cause like the, like, and I wasn't trying to be insulting about it. It was more like, this isn't,
Starting point is 01:07:24 you're not, it's not that they weren't ready for it. It's not like super training, some sort of thing that you need to be like upper echelon to be able to do. But I think their time would be better spent with investigating what's going to be best for them rather than diving into something specific, which would be powerlifting. So I'm like, you know, go, go fuck around. Go do some like military presses and some, you don't need to necessarily be at super training and have a safety squat bar and a cambered bar and a reverse hyper and a glute ham raise and all these amenities that we have. You don't really need any of those yet.
Starting point is 01:07:57 You just need a barbell, uh, some dumbbells. And if you have access to some machines, that would be great. Yeah. You get, take time to some machines, that would be great. Yeah. You get, take time to gain. Cause that's the thing. It's like newer power lifters also have a lot of muscle that they can put on their frame. Like there's this,
Starting point is 01:08:13 there's this level of strength that you can get to. And there's also a bunch of muscle that you have the ability of putting on. And if you're, if you're always worrying about trying to be in a certain weight class at the beginning, I feel like that's like not even something you should be thinking about. Don't think about the weight class. Just think about getting strong and getting bigger.
Starting point is 01:08:28 You know, because I see a lot of like I see some guys that are like maybe they're 210 and they're like, I want to get ready for the 185 or 181. I'm just like, damn it. Why? Why do you want to like why do you want to do all that cutting? What do you could just get stronger where you are? Your body looks OK. Just get get stronger there get leaner there and just compete at that body weight because maybe that's where you're better this is massively problematic
Starting point is 01:08:54 it really is like this is a big problem like this is probably another a whole nother show um i see people all the times kind of spinning their wheels. They're constantly, like they want to get stronger. Like they say they want to get stronger. They'll compete in powerlifting. They continually stay in this lighter weight class. It's like, man, just go up, you know, go up a week or just don't worry about it as much.
Starting point is 01:09:20 Allow yourself to grow. Get off this 1800 calorie a day diet. Like, why are you depriving yourself of nutrients when you're trying to get bigger? I remember Josh Bryant at a seminar, somebody asked him a question and they were like, I really want to have my arms grow. And he was like, okay, first things first, you need to be in a caloric surplus and he's like what exercise you like doing for your arms and the guy's like i like preacher curls he's like all right well what about okay for the biceps what about for the triceps he's like i like skull crushers he's like do a lot of skull crushers and do a lot of preacher curls and eat a lot of food
Starting point is 01:10:03 and i know it's like that's such you know, and he did give the guy some other protocols and he's mentioned like, hey, you know, a lot of people don't train their arms very heavy. And he thinks that that's, you know, a key ingredient as well, because most of the people will do like 12 reps for their biceps. But meanwhile, they'll do sets of three for their chest. And he's like, it doesn't really make sense. You could do three reps for your triceps and three reps for your biceps and and so forth you know so
Starting point is 01:10:28 he had had some good uh ideas there but he was like how are you going to grow if you're under eating because that was the guy was uh was also saying previous to that he asked a question about deadlifts and he was saying that he's like real specific with his macros he doesn't want to get fat and so josh was like man you're gonna have to like not that you need to get fat either that's the wrong way of looking at i don't think you need to get fat you might need to have a little layer of fluff for periods of time but like how much weight are we talking about like if someone if someone needed to like you know if someone's trying to bulk up and they're trying to be like a little thicker a little bigger we talking about five, six pounds and maybe like a little extra water.
Starting point is 01:11:09 Right. But we're not talking about somebody weighing an extra 30 pounds and 20 of it being fat. Right. No. Allow yourself to gain weight slowly. Like a surplus could be three to 500 calorie surplus. Like really that's, that's like all you really need. And it's going's gonna let's say
Starting point is 01:11:25 you're 200 maybe by the end of the year you end up getting yourself up to 212 or 215 not 230 or 240 you could do that that'll probably be quite a bit of fat but maybe like and and what is that close to a pound a month or a little bit more. Right. So that's the thing. It's like, I think a lot of lifters, because everyone wants to be competitive in what they're doing. That's the big thing. Everyone wants to be competitive. And a lot of lifters come into powerlifting and they're like, well, if I can cut myself down to that weight class, lighter weight class, I can be more competitive there. But at the end of the day it's like you haven't even allowed yourself to you know gain strength or gain muscle so why are you trying to cut to a weight class it's like this this total you have right now is not going to
Starting point is 01:12:17 matter in three years you should just compete just to get a total you shouldn't even cut for your first meet or second meet maybe no No one even knows what a total is. So when somebody's like, oh man, you look like your workout, you look like you're pretty strong. You're not going to be like, yeah, my total is 1655. You know, you're not going to like randomly blurt out some total. They're not going to know what that means. And even if they did ask you, you know, like, oh, powerlifting. Yeah, I know a little bit about it.
Starting point is 01:12:42 Like that's bench, squat, deadlift. Again, if you said your total, they wouldn't really know what that meant. They're not really sure how good a 500 pound squat is. Sounds like a lot. Do you need to say anything more? Like when I was in Redondo, I was running the stairs and this guy's like, oh my God, dude, he's like, your legs are huge. He's like, what do you do for your legs? And I said, well, I've been squatting for many years. He's like, how much can you lift? I said, 500 pounds. He elbowed his buddy in the chest.
Starting point is 01:13:10 He's like, 500? He's like, I told you that guy was strong as an ox. So people just, people, they freak, they think that those kind of weights are, they don't have anything like, they don't have anything to compare it to. Like someone at their local gym does like three, four plates or something. Right. And so they just, they don't have anything to compare it to. Someone at their local gym does three, four plates or something, right? Mm-hmm. And so they don't really know. And no one, like Nsema's saying, it's not going to matter to you that much.
Starting point is 01:13:33 And don't be competitive with where you think these imaginary folks are that are potentially maybe coming to this Power of Thing meet. Be competitive against the actual weight. Like I want to figure out a way to lift four Oh five. That's my goal. Four Oh five deadlift. That's my goal. Have that be the main focus rather than I'm going to, you know,
Starting point is 01:13:58 lift four Oh five at this particular body weight, like do. And if you do the way, then maybe you can think about like, oh, that would be kind of sick to do the same weight, but to do it in lighter weight class. But even that I don't agree with. And this is the thing, it's like every,
Starting point is 01:14:14 like, okay, even though most power, like a majority of power lifters, their main goal is like squat, bench, deadlift, total. Let's just be real. A lot of lifters also want to look good too, right? So when, when you're starting this, maybe something you could kind of be or think about is visualize kind of like, what do you actually want to weigh? Like as a guy, like let's say you're starting off
Starting point is 01:14:35 at, uh, let's say you starting off at one 80 and you're starting this whole thing, you're 180 pounds when you're, when you've achieved the strength that you want to achieve and you're as heavy as you want to be, is your goal still to to be 180 or did you want to be 210 or 215 you probably want it to be heavier so just start heading in that direction like just start allowing yourself to go in that direction gain strength gain weight gain size don't worry about cutting yourself for you know uh a weight, just head in that direction. Because I mean, it's just like in jujitsu, like if one of your goals is to compete at a high level as a black belt, right. Uh, you're what you do in terms of competing as a white belt, all that,
Starting point is 01:15:16 all those things, it's just progressing you towards there. So it's not right now. It doesn't really matter. Yeah. I love what, um jesse burdick shared today on an interview um that'll be on markbell.com is with one of the members awesome story but um he was saying that if you're if you just get one percent better every single day at the end of the year you're like 37 better or something like that i might have messed up the numbers but but he's like, what, what wouldn't look amazing? 37% better. Like imagine your bank account, you know, whatever it may be. And you know, when you think of it that way, it's like, Oh man, and Seema said in a year, 12 pounds, like, I don't know, but it's like, holy shit, dude, like that would be amazing. You know, if you didn't get fat and you got just
Starting point is 01:16:00 bigger. Yeah. So that slow progression I think is crucial, but none of us want to be patient. Yeah, I think a lot of us are really guilty of wanting the shit now. And then because we're guilty of that, we make changes way too early. That David Goggins thing about a lot of times people are only at like 60% when they think they're working at their fullest, they think they're at 100%. And then things don't quite work out the way that they think. And they start going the other way. They start turning to drugs or alcohol or depression or cause they didn't reach what
Starting point is 01:16:33 they wanted to reach. And it was like, damn man, like you were, you were doing really well. You were doing a lot of things right. But on a scale of one to 10, you were only at about a six. You needed to get yourself acclimated to that so you can adjust. And then you could have worked on being a 7, being an 8. And by the time you're at like an 8, you're probably going to get to the goal that you want. Because you don't really need to be perfect, in my opinion, to really accomplish much of anything.
Starting point is 01:16:59 I also think it's important that people keep stuff. Like, I keep going back to like like, a ketogenic-style diet. Like, I did it when I was young. I enjoy a lot of the foods in a ketogenic diet. It's something that I like. What are the things that you started with that you liked? Like, what do you enjoy? Like, talking about this post-meat stuff, what are some workouts that you used to really love and enjoy that aren't crazy heavy?
Starting point is 01:17:28 Maybe you used to do bodybuilding. Maybe you used to do CrossFit workouts. Maybe you used to just train a little differently. Maybe you used to hike. Go hike for two weeks. It's not going to kill you to do something totally different. It's just going to rejuvenate you. It's going to make you better in the long run.
Starting point is 01:17:47 Another thing to keep around, too, and this is something I forgot about until I talked with Nsema more recently, was keep an exercise around for a little while. You know, like just do a specific exercise in a very similar fashion for several weeks in a row. for several weeks in a row you know and just i think that people kind of know that but i think we lose sight of it sometimes because i don't know we see a new exercise someone doing on instagram or or whatever it is and we just we have a lot of distractions and i know that like basing stuff off of like something in particular that ronnie coleman said isn't always the best idea but the fucking guy knows what he's talking about. They asked him about like switching stuff up and he's like, I did the same back workout for 20 years straight. It's like, fuck you. You know, you know, if you actually
Starting point is 01:18:36 look at Ronnie Coleman's workout, there were progressions in there and he probably started using more weight at certain times and, and things like that. So, but you leave something in for a while and then that way you can actually see what that thing is doing or not doing. Like if you do pull-ups one week and then the next week you do lat pull-downs and the week after that you do seated row and week after that, it's going to be hard to have good information about what is working well for you. So instead, maybe you keep something in for a while. Try to keep it in for about five, six weeks.
Starting point is 01:19:11 We've talked about this before. Write some shit down. Now, when you've written stuff down, you might be able to use that at another time. So like, man, my back was really making a lot of progress at this time. And you can go back and look and say, okay, I was just going to, you know, run that same play. I'm going to go back to that again. Cause that sometimes it will stop working and you might need to like revisit it at some other time. Herbie, Andrew Herbman, one of the most aesthetic power lifters, I guess.
Starting point is 01:19:39 I think probably out there. That's this whole thing. He has notebooks going years back. Weights that he did sets, reps, weights. Yeah. To give yourself like, again, if we're talking post-meet again, progress an overhead press or a front squat for eight weeks. See what you can, see what you can gain there. And it's, it's again, it's a different type of stimulus. It'll probably be enjoyable since it's not just the same back squat you've been doing or box squat or the same type of squat that you've been doing all your prep.
Starting point is 01:20:07 It allows you to change things up. And it's enjoyable. That's why Conch gets so awesome. That's why people love that because it gives them different things that they can focus on. Yeah. Allow yourself that. What did you do today, Andrew? Are you training today?
Starting point is 01:20:21 Yeah. I was talking to Josh Settleage. Happy birthday, by the way. His birthday was on Sunday. Oh, okay. I was going to say. Yeah, no, not today. No, we don't. I mean, we could still spank him, but you know. My mom's birthday's today. Oh, happy birthday. Yeah. Dang. That's amazing. You better get her something nice
Starting point is 01:20:38 for real. I got her something nice. We got her something nice. Super nice. Yeah, I had all of the excuses man uh kiddo had the roughest night in history officially was last night wow yeah uh it was just it was more stressful than anything because he's never freaked out the way he did in my hands and like he i was telling josh i'm like i didn't watch dragon ball z but you know, when like they turn into Cyan. Yeah, Cyan.
Starting point is 01:21:07 Cyan, sorry. That's what he did in my hands. He just like, boom, you know, and all the flames came out everywhere. I was like, what the fuck? So I was stressed out. So I actually didn't get a lot of good sleep. Okay. But then it just being Monday, we got the food.
Starting point is 01:21:23 I had pack up my laptop, all kinds of shit. And I almost had that thought. It almost beat me to the day where it's like, dude, you don't have that much time. Just get ready to go to work instead. I was like, no. I was like, I'll get in there. It's not going to kill me to just have a short workout. It's only going to help.
Starting point is 01:21:40 So I ended up doing chest, and I did a lot of dog crap stuff. uh so i ended up doing chest and i did a lot of dog crap stuff um uh tom file was showing me how to like activate my pecs better with the uh the bands as opposed to like the cable crossover because my thing is every every other muscle will take over instead of the pec yeah with the band it only takes over right where i need it so i had a dude i had a solid solid chest work i didn't do the sled drags like i normally do because i again, again, short on time, but I'm using a prototype belt. Didn't hurt my back. Did some, yeah, it's just a solid chest workout in like, probably like, I don't know, 35, 40 minutes.
Starting point is 01:22:17 Yeah, buddy. And it just, it felt good. Yeah. That voice that told you like to just leave, just go to work. The ultimate warrior would call that the genius reaper. It takes away all your good ideas. I always thought that was really cool.
Starting point is 01:22:32 He said, you go to bed with a dream or an idea, and you're like, that's it, man. Start tomorrow. I'm going to do that thing. And he goes, right before you have your first fucking cup of coffee he goes there he is waiting for you the genius reaper there to steal your ideas away and you're like fuck man he's so right dude yeah that's perfectly said yeah the genius reaper was there he was fucking screaming at me too and i'm just like no come on man we're doing good we got you know this power project party thing I'm working on.
Starting point is 01:23:07 Let's fucking just go. I don't care what happens. Even if you get there and there's literally not enough time. You hit traffic, whatever. We're going to go. And then I got in the car and thankfully I didn't hit too much traffic. And here we are. The voice that's in our head, it's almost as if you're watching somebody else in a movie. They're making decisions and you're able to actually tell them all the wrong shit to do.
Starting point is 01:23:29 Like, oh, check your email. Oh, scroll through Instagram. Like I'm watching Andrew. He's going through the fridge. He's grabbing some of his meal prep and stuff. And I'm saying, no, man, just just put that shit back. You know, be be unproductive. Like I'm just throwing out opposite of what you're actually trying to get done.
Starting point is 01:23:47 You don't really want to do that right now. God, we seem like we're fucking psychotic, right? We seem like we got something wrong with us. The mind is quite schizophrenic. What is wrong with us? Why is it? I mean. Is it just us, though?
Starting point is 01:23:59 No, it's everybody. Oh, okay, good. Thank God. Is it, though? Yeah. Meditation helps. about michael hearn oh god oh never mind i this i i love uh really good like product names um you know the anna bar which was great but uh i seen i think it was on his story or a post it was iso hern oh it was a protein isolate i've never seen i don't know if i so
Starting point is 01:24:27 hern but it's iso hern so i so hern i'm like way to go man that's that i love that that's got to get you huge it should yeah well if it has duck egg protein it should it's got to be it's got to taste better than that and see my milkshake. Oh my God. No, my milk. Trust me. If you have a milkshake with all the best. Man, you will grow. You will grow. I've been trying it for a long time.
Starting point is 01:24:53 I'm still. Man. Do you know that's a thing? No, that's a thing. Yeah. I'm out. Connor Murph. Oh my God. Oh yeah.
Starting point is 01:25:00 I heard he drank his own like pee and stuff like that, but he took it a step further. And he, he like, he has this video and he said he put the full video on OnlyFans where he has his buddy here. And they're like, there's so many cofactors in semen that will allow you to have growth. So I'm going to have my buddy, you know, go ahead and beat off into this and I'll drink his semen. And his buddy also was very serious. And he was like, this is on the More Plates, More Dates. You guys got to check it out. Go check out Derek's channel for this. on the more plates more dates you guys got to check it out go check out derek's channel for this but the dude i'm on my way that was producing
Starting point is 01:25:28 said seaman was like yeah i usually drink my own but you know i'm gonna give some i'm gonna give it to connor too so he can have some also i'm like these dudes really be just drinking cum for growth i'm sorry like the world we are we are in danger couldn't we just observe like porn stars and kind of go from there do we need to actually try it ourselves to know uh hey shoot
Starting point is 01:25:55 yeah but people really out here my stomach hurts he really did drink his homies semen and that makes me wonder how many kids were like oh that's all you gotta do protein shake before bed mix it with some protein man the things people will do for gains man who is this guy i've seen him on more plays more dates a bunch of times. He's just like a famous YouTube guy or something.
Starting point is 01:26:26 Connor Murphy. In the past, he used to be a guy that he used to be in better shape, but he would be like, he would go up to girls on the street and be like, uh, you know, kind of like, oh, do you like abs or this or this? And he'd do that type of stuff. And then he kind of transformed into a guru that does like, uh, sensual meditation. of transformed into a guru that does like uh sensual meditation and um now he's uh drinking his own semen and and uh sharing his semen with friends and friends are sharing their semen with him and jizzy shake you want a recipe to be famous looks like that guy's on the right path he is a
Starting point is 01:27:00 it's it's definitely different different Let's be real here real quick. All right. Let's just have a conversation between us three. Nobody else is listening. Got it. People are checked. They've checked out a long time ago. At some point, no one's listening.
Starting point is 01:27:15 When I was like fifth, I know there's a point where I was like, you know. Salty. I was curious. I know in my teenage years i was so curious one day because you can't tell me you've never been curious what should so yeah i just took a little dab little little finger tap that's it and you know you have to you just don't want to admit it on air i know you have oh yeah i would say most people probably have and then you know you've definitely like smelt it and stuff like that i mean yeah definitely like use it on your face as cream like oh well yeah it's a great lotion i don't do that anymore but
Starting point is 01:27:53 it works it really uh rejuvenates you've wondered what my skin i think uh there's this guy ian the rhino who asked about my skin routine is that's part of it keeps the skin supple and young why do you think all these women in these videos are you know what's part of it keeps the skin supple and young why do you think all these women in these videos are you know what's your thought it was filters what's your skin routine why does that seem odd you know in comparison like hey what's the routine you do for your shoulders you know what i mean right like it for some reason like what's your skin routine like this sounds different a little bit a little bit Hey, we should do a poll. I think this is a great poll
Starting point is 01:28:29 So how would we phrase it where we don't get banned? If dudes have tasted their own jizz milk no Well Mark and I have admitted to this i think load would like imply that you like swallowed the whole thing yeah no you don't do that i'm sorry you don't do that that's that's weird just take it a step too far i said a little a little little dad if you haven't tried it try it tonight just after dinner no so andrew you telling us you never have are you seriously i've never hand on bible god is watching okay that's fine okay uh i've definitely have never went like
Starting point is 01:29:13 oh let me see what that's like but he may have accidentally shot it into his face that was wide open when he was hanging upside down was not wide open but that would be the time there we go i was like god damn that's not far good thing you got you need a windshield wipers for your glasses something it's like no the towel towel should have caught it you know what i wonder i wonder if there's a like a distinct difference in taste between male and female cum. Yeah. Yeah, there has to be. I would imagine there would be.
Starting point is 01:29:49 Yeah. I don't know. Yeah, I mean. Yeah, there has to be. I mean, a taste test. Pause. Where are we going in this episode right now? Downhill fast. Absolutely nowhere.
Starting point is 01:30:01 Wait, okay, so you said you wonder if there's a difference between male. Yeah, there is. I don't know. Yeah, one's semen one's whatever i am not going to go down the question hole that i want to go down with you right now because it would be very inappropriate but yes it does taste different yeah yeah taste tests just go home and yeah what are you doing down there like all right i'll be right back i gotta go do something and then you just hear mark in the background he's right oh man i don't know if the pineapple thing works. You guys heard of that? I've heard that it doesn't work.
Starting point is 01:30:47 Yeah. Where did we hear that? We heard it. I heard it when I was young. No, but I'm saying like we heard recently that it does not work. Yeah. Oh, maybe it was Tony Huge. Probably something.
Starting point is 01:30:57 Something. Probably. Yeah. I thought maybe it was a girl that said it, but I don't remember. Yeah. Oh, come on. Muscle Maven. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. said it but i don't remember yeah uh uh oh come on muscle maven oh oh yeah yeah yeah she's she's
Starting point is 01:31:07 mentioned that yeah we gotta have her back and we all have to do shrimps shrimps yes okay i asked her that because they're like there's some um like i i was asking some woman that like you know we have this guest coming on what do you want us to ask and one of my friends was like please ask her this that wasn't just this was not my curiosity this was a female's curiosity and i think i would think like uh just maybe more general health might uh matter a bit you know i mean like in how you taste but i don't know no i mean i think so i a lot of like. If you eat really weird food and you take a shit, like it's. Oh, it smells horrible. Yeah, it's quite a bit different, right?
Starting point is 01:31:49 You got to assume your liquids would taste kind of weird too. I would imagine there'd be a difference. And we're being perfectly serious here. I mean, yeah. Yeah. So eat clean foods, non-processed foods. You probably will taste amazing. Oh, so weird.
Starting point is 01:32:02 But the pineapple things, I guess, isn't that. I guess. Yeah. Odd. I'm trying to think like i guess like what comes from your balls like wouldn't necessarily be like it would be it would be something that's digested by the body and broken down by the body but like long ago you know what i mean and it would go into like nutrients and stuff like that so whatever the taste would be would have to be so exponentially different than like it probably doesn't matter that much i guess is my point and let's also be real here like the utility
Starting point is 01:32:29 of semen was never meant to be tasted like it's supposed to have you seen the meme of this woman have you ever seen those like little baby things now okay what do you mean oh my god there's this i'm going to now i i bet because now you said it my phone oh my god we i wish we could find this but there's this me and my friends oh just i have it i have it i have it i'm gonna find it and send it to you because it's like uh i can't so anyone that's been suffering from post meat blues certainly won't have it anymore after listening to the show oh god right I don't think it's possible. I definitely never thought that this would ever go down this path. Pippin.
Starting point is 01:33:10 Let's see. Okay. Oh, I nailed it. In and out. If you guys aren't watching. It went out. It fell out. Yeah. Rim job.
Starting point is 01:33:18 Shit. If you guys aren't watching this YouTube video. It's halfway down and all the way up. You'll see it. All the way up. Did you instagram it me oh damn you get it yeah that's so funny oh that's pretty twisted it's perfect yes yes so that's what it is it's just
Starting point is 01:33:38 a bunch of little babies you know not meant to be you know supposed to anyway i don't know how we got here but we're here well we are going to hell i think all three of us oh one way ticket one way ticket i don't know about that yeah but maybe it's not as bad as people say maybe it's not that hot maybe it's not that hot plus i do well in warm weather yeah not that bad yeah no that's not happening i i believe no i i believe in speaking things into existence that that's that we're taking that back i rebuke that that's not happening been rebuked fluid check oh yeah saw that in the chat room fluid check oh you know there's a wrestling move that's uh it's called the fluid check i think it's not not the fluid check it's oil uh oil check yeah yeah it's uh josh has josh shown it to you
Starting point is 01:34:33 i hope so you know what the oil check is i do you do yeah i think maybe you might have been the one who told me that maybe i yeah i mean you did it too but i mean you also told it to me let me show this to you it's nothing no hands oil check take us on here Andrew I don't think this is gonna get any better I think we hit our peak peak low point oh god man that is an unforgiving trash can
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Starting point is 01:35:14 worded cleverly our jizz poll I know y'all have if you guys say no you are liars okay let's normalize we got a couple people saying no never have liars saying that's disgusting nasty as hell it's just fluid it's just fluid anyway uh i'm not gonna mention the sponsor i guess right now uh you know who they are all links and everything down in the description below.
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Starting point is 01:36:02 and Cloud House. And Seema Inyang on Twitter. Mark? Hey, everybody. Listen to Joe Rogan with Action Bronson on if you haven't had an opportunity to listen to it. I thought it was entertaining as hell. I thought it was really, really good. They talked about a lot of shit. And Action Bronson, like, probably maybe like two years ago, he reached out to me and us and our team. And he wanted me to, like, inject me to inject him with steroids or something. And so it never worked out because I was excited because he wanted to do something on TV.
Starting point is 01:36:31 And I was like, oh, this would be really cool. I was like, I love Action Bronson. And then it turned out he wanted me to inject him with juice. But anyway, I'd love to do something with Action Bronson, hopefully sometime in the future. What's that? Like literal juice or juice juice? Like juice juice. Steroids, yeah it is. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:36:45 Okay. Yeah. The truck driver, truck driver trend. Anyway, go listen to that episode. I think you guys will enjoy it. Strength is never weakness. Weakness is never strength. Catch you guys later.
Starting point is 01:36:54 Bye.

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