Mark Bell's Power Project - EP. 525 - You're Over Thinking Your Health & Nutrition

Episode Date: May 18, 2021

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If I did the three, two. I haven't seen Encima this high in a long time. I know. It's been like a day. Are we on? We're on. Well, what are you on? Yo.

So I had the Coco shot number two. We're calling it the Coco. So for everyone listening. You get two shots of that, right? You get two Coco shots. Yeah. So for everyone listening, you know what we're talking about here. We're just going to be calling it the Coco from now on so that YouTube continues to give us love.

But I got my second cocoa shot today and I feel high as shit. Like when I was walking back to my car, because they make you wait there for 15 minutes after you get your cocoa shot. I wish they gave you a shot of like LSD or something. I feel like I'd be really tripping right now if that was the case. But literally like everything was just starting to shift, shift, shift on my way to the car. And right now, I just feel so airheaded and so spacey. They did a shot into your neck. Is that right? Yeah. Yeah. Into the throat. Back of the neck.

Back of the head. I was wondering what that port was back there. But I got it. Just that way, way go for another one they just said this is just what you do when you get the uh the coco coco the second coco shot first one was in the shoulder did you fast today too i ate after like when i when i got i was gonna say like you might feel like i mean maybe eating would help but did eating seem to help at all no no you still feel weird i still feel really weird i thought eating would settle things a little bit but i'm still a little off but you're you look like you're in better shape right now though than this morning yeah that's good this morning um i i don't know i was just we were talking about it before you actually walked in and i was gonna say i'm like i don't think i've

ever actually seen in sema like show that like he's tired or you know like any like he won't allow anybody to know any of his weaknesses and it's just like whoa like he's tired or you know like any like he won't allow anybody to know any of his weaknesses and it's just like whoa like he actually hey you know what looks like he needs a nap there's no faking like if you have like chills and shit yeah like i don't know if you experience any of that but even if you're close to that there's just no way around it there's no way to fake that sometimes yeah you just kind of look different carry your body a little differently everything's just a little fucked up. Everything's a little bit off.

Just a tad. It's hard to hide. I hate that feeling. It's the worst. It's terrible. We were talking a lot about, you know, what to do, like, post-workout. And there's so much different information, like, on the internet about, you know, eating carbs and having protein post-workout. Is that a water, Andrew?

All these different things. Yeah, that's yours. Okay. Yeah, just throw it to him. Bottle flip it. No worries. And it's hard to find, you know, people being in agreement on exactly what to do. And then Seema and I and Andrew, we've all talked on the show before on what matters.

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Having your electrolytes in order is really a huge factor. I know for myself, many, many years of low-carb dieting, it was kind of hard for me to hold on to water and to stay hydrated and to feel good. And I'd get done with a set of deadlifts. And while I was losing weight, when I came down from 330 down to 230, there was many times in the gym where I was like, I'd go walk over to the reverse hyper and just chill there for a minute and be like, I'm going to let this pass. Cause I feel like I'm going to hit the ground.

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Go ahead and head over there while you guys listen to us live right now. Live. I put that. It makes so much sense. I have a think less right here and it's my watch face too i fucking it clicks man it clicks so the hard part about this is um you know someone sees someone like in sema they're like man he's got big shoulders what i do for my shoulders man what do you know I got to do? And if Encima was to kind of say, hey, I've been training since I was a kid, basically. I've been training since I was really, really young. I've been an athlete since I was

really, really young. So the story of my shoulders, the story of someone's physique is not necessarily in total connection to exactly what they do at the moment. It's a body of work. I got to see David Garibaldi recently throw together some just insane artwork. Local artist paints with, like, music going and just does these outstanding portraits and just all kinds of crazy stuff. When he's putting it together, it only takes him like six, seven minutes. It's crazy. You know?

So I'm like, dude, that's totally nuts. That's unbelievable. He's like, how long does it take you to squat when you squatted a thousand pounds? And I was like, oh, I get it. Cause I'm about to tell him since I was 12, you know what I mean? Like it's took me like many, many, many years, many decades, you know, how long does it take to squat a thousand pounds?

Well, it takes about six or seven seconds depending on how fast you move the weight. Right. How long does it take Usain Bolt to break an all time world record in a hundred meters? You know, it's under 10 seconds,

but it's a body of work. And so what happens a lot of times is you might share some stuff with people and they get all kind of caught up in all these different techniques and all these different ways of doing it. He said 15, he said he does 15 reps. He said he really loves kettlebell presses. And he said he loved,

you know, and they get so attached to all these things, but it's like, you really just want to tell the person, you know, go in the gym, you know, train, train your shoulders maybe twice a week, get in a couple sets, get in some reps, get in a utilize a weight that's challenging over a period of time.

Utilize weights that are more challenging on a weekly, monthly, yearly basis. Keep track of what you're doing. And five, six, maybe 10 years from now, you'll have some pretty good shoulders. Absolutely. I think that's, that's a tricky thing because it's like, everybody wants to message like you, for example, and they're probably like, Oh, you know, what's, what's your formula for getting lean and what's your formula for getting shredded, et cetera. And you'll tell people a lot of things you did. Um, but the, the prime, the, the big idea is that there's no, there's no one formula for everybody. There's like your specific formula that has worked for you and has gotten you from point A to point B. Um, but your formula may not be this,

the formula for somebody else, right? You know what I mean? And I think like the whole idea of thinking less is great because from getting to point A to point B, you have to try quite a few things to figure out what works best for you and what feels best for you. Right. I guess the good thing to kind of understand is when you actually get there, like right now, this feels easy. You know, doing what I'm assuming that, you know, the physique that you have right now and maintaining it, it feels pretty easy. you know, the physique that you have right now and maintaining it, it feels pretty easy, but all of the things that you're trying, you know, you had to try all those things to help get you to the point where you're now where you are. And it doesn't feel like you're putting in that much effort to actually maintain it. Whereas if you tell somebody what you're doing right now,

they're like, that's a lot of stuff. That seems like it's a lot of work, but it's not because of all the experiences and all the things that you tried and have done and what's worked and what hasn't. We have a huge tendency to overthink stuff. And we're not saying don't think at all. Not in one way are we saying that. We are saying, you know, you do need to think about what you're doing. You do need to think about your thoughts. You do need to think about why certain emotions drum up over certain things.

Like these are all really important things. We don't want you to go around, uh, being like thoughtless, you know, you do need to think. Uh, but once you have, uh, given some thought to something, now it's time to really just execute. You know, you want to be good in business. You're probably going to have to spend a lot of time doing business-y like stuff. You want to be a good bodybuilder. You'll probably have to do bodybuilding stuff. What do bodybuilders do? Seems like they carry around Tupperware. It seems like they carry around gallon jugs of water.

Okay, check, check. It seems like they train often in the gym. You know, they train in about an hour and they do about five, six days a week. It looks like they do some cardio to stay lean as well. It looks like they pay attention to all the food that they consume. You're going to have to do a lot of bodybuilding type stuff in order to be a bodybuilder. Yeah. What you don't need to do is get overwhelmed by all the different things that they do.

You just need to understand, okay, I'm trying to build a better body. You just need to need to understand, okay, I'm trying to build a better body. I'm going to go to the gym. I'm going to train hard. I'm going to make sure that I get sleep because I need to recover each and every day for the gym. And I'm gonna make sure I have the proper nutrition.

And then I'm going to put that shit on repeat. And I'm going to stay, I'm going to stay on this plan. I'm not going to get moved off my spot because I saw an Instagram post from another bodybuilder saying a different way is the way. I'm going to follow this path for a minute and see what happens to me. things it's just so funny that you're mentioning that because it's like you do so many things that you get to a point where like you realize you know you've probably tried the tupperware thing and then you tried not doing the tupperware thing and you found i got the same results not doing the tupperware thing and not carrying my food around and not eating six times a day as when i ate six times a day so what do i like better like i like not eating six times a day. So what do I like better? Like I like not eating six times a day,

right? Because you already did it. I think this is the reason why, you know, you can flow through so many things and you can, you can do what you're doing without having any anxiety about what you're not doing because those things that you're not doing, you've already done and you've already found that they're not that important for you. Like, for example, one of the biggest things that you see within fitness is the whole idea of a post and pre-workout meal. I've done it. And there is a period that I stopped doing it and didn't make that big of a difference personally. So I was just like, what takes less effort? Not having the pre or post-workout meal.

So I dropped it. You're not going to hold muscle. Not going the pre or post workout meal. So I dropped it. You're not going to hold muscle. Not going to hold muscle. Catabolic. I found I didn't go catabolic and my muscle didn't waste away. You know what I mean? You're looking crazy catabolic right now. Yeah.

But like, that's the thing. It's like the reason why I was able to find that, let's say, maybe I didn't need to eat before doing workouts or cardio was because I found that I was more so electrolyte deficient. And when I had that handled, a lot of things became easier and I didn't feel bad not eating. So I don't have to eat. But a lot of people are like, oh God, I got to get some food in. Try it out. Try without and see how you feel. And then you can figure out what you can get away with. But doing it you don't know what you can get away with you don't know what's better you don't know what's worse because you haven't tried it okay so here's i guess um to play dad devil's

advocate let's do it um did you find out that you didn't need the pre and post uh meals and all the carbs and all this and that what I'm trying to say is like because you've been training for so long it kind of wouldn't even matter at that point if you did or you didn't or let's just imagine that you've kept up with it and maybe I mean I can't imagine you being know, a couple percentage less body fat or a little bit bigger. Like, you know what I mean? Like, what would that difference have made if you just kept with that, like the pre and post workout meals this entire time versus cutting those out and then just still training and being like, oh, yep, I'm training better today than I was three years ago. Therefore, those methods are not what works for me.

That's the question, though. Then one goes to try and ask, what's better? No, no, seriously, what is better? Okay, if we're talking about a little bit more muscle gain, do I necessarily even want more muscle? It's always good to have more muscle, but let's just say that there was a few more pounds of LBs that I would get with that post workout meal or pre-workout meal. Does it matter that much to me to actually go ahead and have

that pre or post workout meal? It really doesn't. Like if it mattered that much to me, then I'd absolutely do it because maybe I'd get something from it. Maybe there's a little missing link there. But because it really doesn't matter to me and my current progression where I am and I'm good progressing this way and I've done it before and it hasn't necessarily seemed to add that much because I've done it before and I can understand that I can I can totally go without it. Mm hmm. So let's say you start to rethink stuff when there's a problem you know uh you're doing jujitsu and you're just and you're training and you're like man something's off like i'm not as strong like i can't believe i got beat

on the mat today by that guy like he i normally don't have any issue with him at all i need to maybe eat more or eat slightly different i mean you, again, you don't want to panic and think that everything you're doing is wrong, but you want to investigate a little bit and think, maybe there's a couple things that are off here. Maybe I'm overtrained. Maybe I'm not sleeping. Maybe I'm stressed out. Like, there's a bunch of different things that could be.

And that's where you do want to give a little bit of thought to it. But again, once you have that thought, you don't want to get into a situation where you overthink uh and sima you mentioned something great like worrying about what you're not doing um shit man everyone's guilty of that right uh and it and another interesting thing about that is like who uh who knows what you're like who's aware of what you're not doing pretty much nobody except for yourself you know so it's your own like little creations that you make like oh man i'm not doing this well enough or i'm not that's the other part right you're not you're doing it but you're not doing it good enough like nothing's ever good enough you never uh cut

yourself any slack and if you were to listen to a friend, uh, explaining to you what they're working on and what they're, uh, trying to do, you would probably stop them, you know, halfway through what they're saying and say, Hey man, like, sounds like you're doing really fucking good. Actually your weight loss journey sounds like you're, you're complaining because you lost 20 pounds and the weight loss has stopped, but you lost 20 pounds and you're still walking every day and you're still lifting and you're still doing, you created all these new habits. This is amazing. Okay, now maybe, yeah, we got to refine stuff to kind of figure out what's the next couple steps. But we don't need to overthink.

We don't need to panic. And we certainly don't need to go back to uh our old ways of doing things you need to kind of you know stay focused on a lot of things you're doing are working uh you have to kind of hold tight but it's very difficult to not be moved or to see somebody else post something or to see something else come up in conversation and think that you you need to like i mean look at like let's take bitcoin for example right yeah everyone's kind of hopped on bitcoin and then you kind of you yeah you you you learn like i mean one tweet from what elon musk or something shuts it all down the thing gets all you all weird. So like following everybody else is, is usually not a great path.

Once people have already gone down a path and it looks like they have been successful and you could say, okay, hundreds of people have kind of done that that way. Then you can be like, okay, well that makes some sense. But normally you're better off going in the complete opposite direction and trying something that other people wouldn't think would work like not having a post-workout shake or uh you know not consuming i mean i go days and days without carbohydrates and i'm not even i'm not trying i just i just don't care about them that much and so they they come and they go here and there and every once in a while i'm like i should eat some fucking carbs because it's just in my best interest to have some glycogen.

But I don't really like sweat it. I barely think about it. Yeah, that's that's that's the thing. That's the same thing that happens here. It's like can feel it. You can feel when I can feel when I need to have some carbohydrates and then I eat them and I'm good. But what I was going to mention was when you were talking about people trying to course correct and add new things in. Because we always have people that come on to this podcast and give us a lot of new tools. Like we had Brian Carroll and Stu McGill.

And from those podcasts, I added in the bottom up or the bottoms up carries added a few things from Ben Patrick who came on. Brignoli took a few things from him in terms of some of the movements that he did. from him in terms of some of the movements that he did. But therein lies a problem with trying to make change, especially when it comes to one's fitness. Most people are trying to do things out of the idea of speed and making things faster. So, okay, I'm trying to lose some body fat. How can I lose this faster?

Or I'm trying to gain some muscle. How can I gain or what can I do to change my trying to gain some muscle, how can I gain, or how can I, what can I do to change my program to gain muscle faster? And although it's a good idea, right? You got to be careful not to go too far with said idea, because a lot of people are trying to drop weight faster. They'll then start doing a lot of unsafe things, going into too deep of a caloric deficit, lowering their fats way too low, doing all these things. And in essence, those things kind of need to be done because when you do it and you see the ramifications of the negative ramifications, you can then course correct and realize, okay,

that's not the best way to do it. Um, but it can, it can lead to some, it can lead to bad places, like people trying to get stronger faster and adding in a crazy amount of volume to their program because they saw some Russians do it and they get injured. It's like you can tell someone that that's not the best idea, but a lot of the times they just have to experience it for themselves. Because I made that mistake too. I worked with way too much volume and now I come back and I tell athletes might not be the best idea to do that, but it's like, maybe you just should do it and see what I'm talking about rather than me telling you not to, so that you just know it's not a good idea from, for, you know, the foreseeable future. In those moments, it's so hard to stop and ask yourself, you know, how does this, how's it helpful?

You know, like if you, if you're, you know, engaging in a new exercise and you kind of hurt something, you kind of tweak something and then you go to back to do it again a few weeks later and that same thing kind of hurts again. And you're like, this wider stance on this sumo deadlift or squat or, uh, me, uh, running or whatever it is.

It's, it's not, how, how is it going to be helpful to continue to hurt yourself more? How's it going to be helpful to continue to like, that's setting you backwards more. Um, and same thing with like weight loss.

Like you, the, you backwards more. And same thing with like weight loss, like the amount of calories that you're not consuming today is going to probably catch up to you at some point. So you have to pick off calories as if it's something that's not going to even phase you. And it's easier to do in the beginning than it is to do if you're like trying to get really shredded because you'll eventually get to a point where you do eat less and less. But when you first get started, it'll still be really difficult because it's such a massive change for you that you'll feel like you're hungry all the time. But you have to understand that the exercise that you do, and there's a ton of research on this.

I'm not big on just studies, but I also know from my own experiences and experiences that other people have shared with me that if you're a person that doesn't normally run and you start saying to yourself, okay, Monday, that's it going on a diet, going to go carnivore. And I'm going to start running Monday morning. You run two miles. You try some intermittent fasting you uh mainly only eat meat it might not catch up to you on wednesday it might not catch up to you for a while you might have pretty good willpower the problem is that's the only thing you're going to be able to rely on is willpower because you're not feeding your body what it really truly needs

and you're going to have this uh uh you're going to end up with like a willpower like deficit because you don't have energy and so like um just imagine if you were sleep deprived for three days or so and i was like hey man get up like let's go train and you'd be like yeah okay cool man we're going to train with david goggins today it wouldn't matter it wouldn't matter who came around right right? Like you wouldn't be able, you'd just be like, I got to get you coffee, get you some stimulants,

try to get you fired up and nothing would work because there's nothing there. So you have to be careful on how much you're trying to pull from your system. That's why we encourage walking a lot because walking doesn't really have

that same exact, whoa, doesn't really have that same exact negative impact. It doesn't really, that was an amazing catch't really have that same exact negative uh impact that doesn't really that was amazing cat that was it's just like it doesn't realize how cat like that was okay you can keep going but it doesn't uh you know it doesn't have the same negative impact as you know maybe somebody potentially you know hammering out an hour of cardio i'm not saying that our cardio is necessarily negative i'm just saying understand

who you are and understand where you came from and that hour of cardio is necessarily negative. I'm just saying, understand who you are and understand where you came from. And that hour of cardio for you could be detrimental, could be hurting you more than helping you because it could make you fucking really hungry. Aren't we doing too much thinking right now? We are. Like, this is too much thinking. We're supposed to be thinking less here and we're now thinking more.

What's going on? Yep, I know. Well, I mean, like I had asked you guys, like, how, like, shouldn't you want to think about things for a little bit before you could think less? Like, I forgot how I worded it, but I'm like, you can't think less forever, right? Yeah. You have to be something before you can get to the point where you can think less. This is another thing.

Like, I think there's also the aspect of thinking less to just doing more because, okay, like we were just talking about, you, you have this foundation of experiences, positive and negative that then allows you to get to a point where you're just running based off of what works since you've done so much. And you don't have to think as much, right? But even in the beginning, like if there's something you want to do, or you think is pretty cool in the gym, maybe you should just do it and see what happens. Because if you think too much about doing it, you're going to be like, okay,

those fucking bottoms up kettlebell carries. Uh, what if they hurt my shoulder or wall? What if I can't like carry it? Or what if I don't have chalks? I can't grab the kettlebell from the bottom. You, you,

you just think too fucking much rather than doing it and see what happens. But if you do it and you find that it works for you, then you can keep it. And if it doesn't, you get rid of it. Just like Andre was talking about, I think he was talking about how like, you know, he was finding different squat stances and he would just try different shit. And he found his stance that worked for him and he kept it. He didn't think about it. He just like, I need to find a different stance. So he did a bunch of stuff, found out what didn't work and came across it. So I think the big aspect of thinking less is literally just,

and it's a dangerous sentiment, but if something comes to your mind, go do it. Don't think about doing it. Don't think about the ideas of it. Go do it. Another, another great indicator to actually go do it.

Or another great cue is when you, when you tell yourself that you don't want to do it, or you try to talk yourself out of it. That's another great, again, and I have mentioned this a bunch of times, once you get moving, you'll be motivated. Yeah. But you have to get moving. And if you're sitting still and you're debating whether to get up off the couch and go train, the likelihood of you staying on the couch is probably pretty high because you're sitting there getting into a debate with yourself. And again, now we have to rely on willpower and you don't, we just don't always

have that. It's not always there. We're not always excited. We're not always motivated. We're not always pumped, but if you can just get yourself to do as soon as you strike, as soon as you start to go into action, you're like, yes, this is what I said I was going to do. Now your mind kind of remembers that. I think that you get some pretty good positive feedback from that because you told yourself you were going to go to the gym. Now you're actually there. You talked yourself into doing some, you know, back work for the day. And there you are, you're three sets into it and you're good to go.

And you're like, well, I'm already here. I spent all the time to drive here and I got warmed up and shit. I might as well actually go after a little bit more and you'll get more and more excited to get in a good workout and to actually work hard for the day. That's why I love like how much we, well, I'm just being perfectly real with the amount of guests that we have on this show. We must be confusing the fuck out of all of you because there are so many different points of view on diet there's so many different points of

view in terms of what to do about exercise there's so many people that are like this is the way this is the way this is the way and all y'all are just like what the fuck is the way you know what i mean just tell me what to do but but like that's like that's that's that's the thing because you know when even when i was and i'm still getting a lot of advice from different people about certain things when it comes to lifting but in the very beginning it's uh it's like it's hard to get advice from people because everyone's trying to give you the best advice possible so they're trying to give you the best advice possible. So they're trying to give you the best advice to have you not go and make certain mistakes that they made. But then you still have to go.

I feel like you still have to go make those mistakes. I feel like it's impossible. We all want to have the perfect lifting career or just the perfect career in general. But I don't know. Do you think that's possible to have a perfect lifting career? No, no. That's why when somebody says, oh, well, you know, he's got 20 years experience. That just means like you probably messed up a lot of times, you know?

And my son the other day, he like borrowed something from my dad. He borrowed some like fireplace type thing. I don't know. He was like camping with his friends or something. I don't know what the hell he was trying to do. And then my dad was like uh do you want some wood and Jake was like oh yeah that'd be great and my dad just kind of mentioned like he just doesn't have that many life experiences so he was thinking like oh I'm gonna get this you know thing this will be fun for like when we go

camping but yeah like it's something so simple right you need you need to you need to bring that with you too so uh we have a tendency to just i think we end up with like analysis paralysis a lot of times we you get into the gym and you could think of uh you know um andre milanichev you know he he shares this sentiment of of think less and he just wants you to mainly squat, right? And then you're like, well, Jay Cutler said to do leg extensions before squats and he did that for, you know, 20 years. And then you could think of, you know, another great bodybuilder and say, well, or you could think of Ronnie Coleman. Ronnie Coleman said he did the same back routine for 20 years and that's how he got a huge back. Coleman and Ronnie Coleman said he did the same back routine for 20 years. And that's how he got a huge back.

Then you could think of a different guy and say, Oh, I thought I had to confuse the muscles and mix things up and hit things from different angles. I had to do single arm. I had to do, you know, bent over rows one week.

And then the next week I had to do pull-ups and so forth. And so you can sit there and like overanalyze the fuck out of it to the point where you don't even move at all. And that's not good. Cause you're sitting there like frozen, like, hmm, should I bench press first? You know, Matt Wenning, he actually does the Wenning warmup where he does, you know, four or five sets of dumbbell bench press to kind of pre-exhaust before he goes into the bench.

And then as the contest comes closer, we heard Andrei Milanochev talking about running before squatting and how he pulls back from running. And it's like, wait a second. What the hell is going on? But the only way to learn how any of this is going to play out for you is to not just run it through in simulation in your head. You have to go and experience it. You have to do it. Man.

Have you ever heard people, let's say they have an argument like you have an argument with somebody you and your girl or some shit and she's like well that's my truth have you ever heard that shit before that's my truth and i'm sticking to it you've heard that right i mean i've i've never been told i think you're being misogynistic right i'm sorry or the or the homies like well that's my well, that's my truth, man. That's my truth. Like, okay. Good save.

So, all right. Men and women, we both do it. All right. Sure. Okay. Anyway, with that being said, it's just like lifters. Like Andrei Milanochev has his truth. He runs before squats.

And that ends up being something that works for him, right? Yeah. Right. And the reason why this came to mind is because i was looking over the episode uh doug bernoulli episode and i was looking at the comments and i was just seeing the people saying what doug speaks is biomechanics and this is the truth you guys are speaking from emotions and feelings doug is speaking truth i've seen that his is actual science you guys speak bro science bro science like this is the truth that one made me proud and no it did but you know in in in a way they're right they are correct like what doug is speaking is his truth and it has worked very well for him and

it has worked very well for a lot of people that are going to buy that book and do that um but andre milanichev is a goat and he runs before squats does that mean that like it's wrong it's not no i mean does that mean that it's perfectly right actually yeah it is right for andre and it could be right for a few thousand people that choose to try it and see that it works well and it could be wrong for a few thousand people who try it and it doesn't work and back to your point about um uh you know like trying to find trying to find the right thing and and trying like or trying to find like a truth you know i think there's there's like your truth there's my truth and then there's like the actual truth which i don't think anybody ever gets to like you never really actually get to it you never really actually learn like what is uh like we don't know why we're here for example like on this planet you know uh yeah different people have different theories but like there's the theories

are wide there's a lot of them and uh i don't know if we ever get to learn that but like you could have your own truth andrew could have his own truth i could have my own truth about it our own beliefs about it. And we can live our lives and be totally fine with it. You know, so it's it's it's going to be hard to find like stuff that everyone's agreeable on. It's going to be hard. But like you still need to figure out what are your beliefs? Once you start to develop some of these beliefs, you need to adopt them.

You need to implement them. You don't want to be too married to them because you want to develop some of these beliefs, you need to adopt them. You need to implement them. You don't want to be too married to them because you want to be able to change. You want to be able to implement some new stuff here and there. So you want to be a little flexible with that. But you have to do it. You have to go through and you have to actually do it as we're talking about with experience. You're going to experience disappointment. You're going to experience disappointment. You're going to experience pain.

Like you're going, like Andrei Milanochev, he had a great training system. He had a great protocol. So did Ed Cohn. Both of them ended up with career-ending injuries. Like they both ended up at some point getting totally, Andrei was squatting 900 pounds for five reps and he blew his knee out.

He tried to come back a little bit after that and he was like i just i can't really do it the way that i used to do it so i'm done ed cone did come back but he was never the same after that either and i mean these things they they happen so um it doesn't matter how like right you think you are or how right the training is that you're going to do and or how experienced you are or how right the training is that you're going to do or how experienced you are or how many times you messed up. You're still going to mess up. Like we're human. We're going to always have errors. And that's a big thing. Being okay with that. Like when you do make an error, that's a good thing. You know what road now not to go down. I've, there's a lot of roads

that I'm not going to go down because I tried them and they just didn't pan out. Well, didn't work well. So now I know I don't need that to be a part of what I do. And that's why what I do is so easy because I've landed upon a lot of things that just work great for me. They might not work that great for other people, but I'm still going to share it because there may be a sect of the population that does find that this truth of mine works well for them too right like something is that that's that's the funny thing because a few years ago the whole idea of like hearing about fasting right in my head at the time i was like that's bullshit like as an athlete no fucking no fucking way. Will I even try that?

Cause I'm going to, I'm going to mess myself up. So in my mind, I was so close minded to it that I was like, there's no way as a performance athlete that they can, that I could do well or anybody could do well doing that. I do it, do it for a while, feel pretty good, works pretty well. And now I'm flipped. I'm like, huh? Okay. Maybe a lot of people could probably get away with this. Some won't, some will. But I now have the whole idea of not being absolutely

closed-minded to something that I haven't given the time of day. But we need 30 grams of protein every few hours. And no more than 30. Not more than 30, because you're not going to be able to digest or assimilate that very well. Oh, man. Truth. because you're not going to be able to digest or assimilate that very well. Oh, man. Yeah, why is the grass always greener, though, on the other side with whatever training program it is, fasting, non-fasting?

Some things are just attractive because they're new, you know? You know, sometimes it's even something old that you used to do that you want to bring back, you want to implement. You know, I loved doing, like doing West Side Barbell style training. So that kicks off in my head every once in a while. We're like, oh, I want to get back to doing that. And then I'm like, oh, no. It's actually not really in my best interest at the moment

to really give a fuck about it. So why worry about it? I think if you can start to piece together the reasons on why you're doing stuff and think about what is going to make me feel the best what's going to make me feel the most complete um i was just talking to uh jessica smith about she has a upcoming powerlifting meet she was thinking about getting down to a certain uh like weight class type of thing and i was like what's going to make you

happier like to be in that weight class or to lift a certain amount of weight in the platform she's like i would like to lift a certain amount of weight in the platform? She's like, I would like to lift a certain amount of weight in the platform. I'm like, okay, good. Don't worry about like a cut then, you know, just, just weigh what you're going to weigh, you know, if you, cause she's going to like, she's on a specific plan to, to lose some weight anyway. But just realize that, and you have to stay firm with that. That's not an easy thing to do. Cause you're going to be like, oh, I'm within striking distance of the weight class, so I'm going to lose weight. And now for the competition, I'm going to cut weight, too, to make weight for the weight class, which anybody listening to this, you should know that that is a huge mistake.

If you have to lose 10 pounds just in order to get yourself lined up for a cut for a competition that's like 12 weeks away that is a really really bad idea because overall you're going to be losing like just way too much of a percentage of your of your body weight especially if you've never competed at that weight before you set yourself up for some hundred percent that's so yeah so we're it's not a people don't care what you weigh that's what a lot of people do they get attracted to like 181s and i'm 206, but I want 181. Like, ooh, buddy, you sure about that? Yeah, you're like, that's a little risky. But I'm going to carry all this strength from 206 down to 181. And you might, but probably not.

If it's a shortcut, then that means I won't lose the muscle in the amount of time. At least I think that's what goes through their head. They got the wrong sport. Bodybuilding is the sport where you eat less, powerlifting yeah that that's that's and you're hungry all the time hungry all the time i've heard uh some bodybuilding coaches before just say like this is just a battle of like attrition like who can figure out a way it's not literally like eat less necessarily but uh eating fewer calories and dealing with some of that discomfort can be, you know,

for some people it can be like the major recipe for somebody to get totally shredded. Is there another sport that really does match a bodybuilder's level of discomfort through preparation for competition? Like, I'm just trying to think like powerlifting. I mean, is there like, I'm trying to think of legit sports too like basketball

no powerlifting you go to the gym and you lift and then you you know you go home and you work on like trying to recover from it or whatever and you know you might have a couple things that are thrown off like when you train really heavy often and you're just you know trying to get to that next level your sleep might be screwed up and some things might be like off but no the bodybuilding is like 20 sports yeah and biting yeah yeah yeah but bodybuilding is like well you got a good point but i think bodybuilding is like it's a little bit more it's it's all day every day because it's so oriented to the food right it's attached to the food like if if

you didn't eat properly for an mma fight i hate to say it but i don't think it matters that much it's gonna matter like if you get on a stage and you didn't eat properly you know everyone's gonna see that you're just not in shape to to win to win and the extreme levels of leanness. Yeah. Right? Because being that lean does never, never feels good. I mean, imagine the difference between like,

okay, you ate, you did really, really well with your prep and you got to 8% body fat, but you're on a bodybuilding stage. Like 8% body fat

at the higher level, you're going to look fat. Yeah. It's crazy. Look how fucking fat that guy is. That's up there. As wild as that sounds, that guy,

8% doesn't look like he belongs. That's demoralizing. Yeah. And, and you could have, you, you could have done well, you could have eaten like pretty great for 80% of the time or something like that.

But that's not what it takes for bodybuilding. And I think in other sports you could, I mean, I could say after, after, I mean, I haven't done much bodybuilding, so I don't have much experience with it, but after bodybuilding and doing some powerlifting, um, the powerlifting was way more relaxed in terms of like the preparation for it. I did think about it consistently. I did, like, I did know what I wanted to do. And, um, but even on that, you know, I, I also, I also saw, I saw a bunch of things. I saw people, um, people not willing to make any changes, right? So if you're not willing to make any change, then that means that you're not,

that would put you in a category of really not thinking. But again, we're not talking about like not thinking at all. We're just talking about, don't overthink stuff. Don't, don't, you know,

don't overthink it. But I saw people not willing to change. And what I mean by that is like, they wouldn't go back. They wouldn't take the time. They didn't have the patience to correct their form or technique. They knew it was wrong. They didn't have the patience to correct their form or technique. They knew it was wrong. They knew it wasn't right. They knew they just kind of brute strength,

a lot of stuff. And they just, for whatever reason, and I got to that, I got to a similar point at some, at some point, I think everybody gets there, your weaknesses or your weaknesses. And you're like, man, I really did do a lot of stuff for some of those weaknesses, but I don't want to do everything that's involved for all my weaknesses all the time. I like to display my strength. That's why I'm in this sport. And so for me though, most of the time I did a pretty good job of going back and saying, ah, that's not good enough. That's not the right way. Let's go back and let's, but every time I did go back, I went back to my core principles and my core beliefs with still, you know, being able to absorb something new that I would hear from someone like Kelly Sturette.

Like when I met Kelly Sturette, I was like, the fuck's this guy know about squats? You know, then we started talking and I was like, oh, wait a second. You're being a closed minded asshole. This is not necessarily about squats. This guy knows about human movement and human performance. And I need to pay attention to what he's saying because I think he has a really good point. And he did. And I went from squatting 942 to squatting 1,080.

It made a huge difference. And I think that might be a little bit of what Andrew was bringing up earlier about what's optimal. Maybe we sometimes. you know, what's optimal. You know, maybe we sometimes, but I think if you're to do everything that's optimal all the time, you might not want to do it. And then therefore it's not optimal. Like you, you nixed it for a reason. Like you just didn't, you didn't really want to do it anymore. And it doesn't mean that like, I think if you did it and you got a good enough result, you would probably keep it in because you would probably be interested in it enough if it moved the needle enough for you. But if you don't really feel much difference, then you're probably going to get rid of it.

Yeah. And I mean, because all this like that question came from like I'm using a lot of Brignoli's movements now in the gym. My workouts were kind of similar before. Um, but like, I, I just overall, I feel better and I'm making progress. And so in my head, I don't think it's specifically just because like, oh, I'm doing this now. My workouts are shorter and I'm getting better. Um, I just think it's just learning overall, like just gaining more experience, period, making those mistakes like you mentioned earlier. But I think it would be irresponsible of me to say like, no, this is how I've made the most progress in the last couple of months because of these workouts that I've been doing. When in actuality, it's like a couple of years of learning how to diet which is really honestly

i will give a lot of credit to that and then also just learning how to train period so it's just like a culmination of all these things coming into one but i can't say oh it's this one thing it's a lot of stuff it's a whole lot of stuff it's like you know i think that like there's always a point where there there are points where like certain things do are the triggers that make changes for certain for certain people like for example if somebody's been dieting for a long time and they've been eating really low amounts of fat and then they finally start eating normal amounts of fat and their hormones get in place and everything starts moving oh fat made all the difference yeah okay um or like it but i think

sometimes they're like you were mentioning andrew there's there's having so many experiences come together and then adding one thing in is like a catalyst for a lot of different change to happen it's like if i say that, um, fasting is like this magical thing or whatever that allowed me to whatever it's like, it's not just because I started doing fasting. Fasting did allow me to get used to the feeling of being hungry, which made, um, taking advantage of all of my dieting knowledge until this point, it made taking advantage of that knowledge and implementing it easier because now I'm not thinking about eating all the time. I have

massive control over my hunger. I can go from keto to carnivore to whatever any day of the week I feel like. And because I've done all of that, I can do this easily. But if somebody that hasn't dieted before and they don't have any knowledge on food just starts adding in some fasting it's not going to be as easy for them as it was necessarily for me because they don't have all these other things when it comes to food and dieting and it's not and just adding in some fasting because in semen mark we're like they fast they're not going to achieve the same thing we did immediately because there is a, it's a big culmination of things that we've done that have allowed this to happen. And you have to over fast too. I do need to like, we've done that. I've been there. Yeah. You need

to mess with it. And, uh, you'll see like your eyes are sunken in a little bit and like, you're just, you look a little fucked up. Maybe not everybody else notices it, but like you look a little fucked up and look a little strung out especially if you're having like caffeine all day and trying to like you're just trying to get through the day and figure out how to fast for certain period of time that was me last friday and it can be it can get weird it can get weird but um you know just as we mentioned many times on the show before like just try to take it like if you're not used to fasting at all, then see if you could skip breakfast or finish your dinner a little bit

earlier in the day. And, you know, just if you slept for eight hours, see if you can go 10 hours without food, 12 hours without food and so on. Yeah. I mean,

speaking of mistakes, when I was trying to cut to have apps for Christmas and, you know, and seeing what was help coaching me through everything like nutrition wise. And'm like no but this is good like I only had like you know I forgot how many but like a ridiculously low amount of calories I'm like dude I had like you know 800 calories like this this is gonna speed everything up right he's just like dude what's gonna happen when you have nowhere else to go and you still have you don't have abs and I'm like oh and he's like well you have no more food

you're like you can't go anywhere but yeah that was one of the biggest mistakes i made was like no i want abs so i'm just gonna stop consuming period and i'll get there well and that's a good example of like it's going to hurt you because we need muscle mass and correct and also um we're not just trying to like strip body weight off you period they're trying to get you leaner and we need to hold the muscle mass and we also know that afterwards it could be like a big rebound effect and the rebound effect will be so much worse if your metabolism is slower because you don't have the muscle mass and so it's like well now that we're left with, like, there's not that many different ways of actually doing this. Although we can use

intermittent fasting, we can use some different strategies in terms of the macronutrients, but it all ends up getting a little similar at some point. I would say, you know, you have to be like, you kind of got to get your fat low, your carbohydrates that can maybe be where there's more fluctuation for people. And the protein needs to be kept high. So you hold on to the muscle mass. There's really not, there are some other ways you can do it, but that's pretty much the way every single bodybuilder has done it since the beginning of time.

And it looks like it works pretty good. And like I said, there could be variation on that fat carb thing a little bit, but probably has done it since the beginning of time. And it looks like it works pretty good. And like I said, there could be variation on that fat-carb thing a little bit, but probably not too much play. It's going to end up being kind of a straightforward thing. I think what's interesting about the idea of think less is oftentimes when you think less, you end up kind of moving away from thinking the same way as other people. And so that's where you can sometimes end up thinking a little differently than other people,

because when a lot of people tend to like really overcomplicate things and back to bodybuilding, these, these people that have theories about red potatoes versus sweet potato versus this kind of potato versus eating rice. Some people say you can't have dairy when you're on a bodybuilding cut. Some people will, you know, there's evidence that shows a lot of populations that eat more calcium are leaner. There's evidence to kind of go in either direction. The only way to know any of it is for you to actually stop thinking about it and give it a shot, give it a try.

See what feels best for you. See what, like, lean into your interest. If you want to be shredded and you actually really love dairy, well, give that protocol a try. Give it a shot because you might end up landing on something that not only works for you, but something that can work more long-term. I don't carry around any Tupperware. I don't carry around gallon jugs of water. Uh, I pretty much never have. Um, I, I just, I almost always eat at my house. Um, I think most people, I think most people can follow the same thing that I do. I think, um, even if they weren't doing necessarily intermittent fasting,

if someone had a nine to five, they could wake up at seven and cook some eggs up and eat. They could go the whole day without food and come back home and have a good dinner and maybe a small snack after that and call it a night and make great progress. Like that's nothing that we do is hard. And I think even when it comes to fasting, it gave me a great opportunity. It gave me a great opportunity to think less because now I'm not sitting here going, what am I going to get for lunch? Where am I going to go? Should I go to Chipotle? If I go to Chipotle, you know, I like cheese, but I also like sour cream. And if I get cheese and sour cream, now the burrito has a ton of fucking calories and I like guacamole too.

But they don't have a drive-thru though. And you start thinking all these crazy thoughts and it's just easier sometimes just to not do it you know it's um it's just an idea like uh when you were mentioning the thing about bodybuilders and uh the way they eat their prep it reminded me of robert sykes keto savage i was thinking that too how he like prepped on keto yeah and he not just prepped on keto he wasn't one of these athletes that was like oh i'm keto gone on stage and didn't look good he looked amazing he got shredded yeah got absolutely shredded and he looked full too he wasn't just shredded his muscle bellies looked full and he talked to somebody that's a bodybuilder and you're like your muscle bullies aren't gonna look full

and you show them a picture of robert sykes that'd be like what the right um and i think i think that that kind of also had me thinking about the idea of like human, like we're all humans and we're all built the same in a way. But there's a lot of variability in what each of us can handle and maybe what each of us can do and get away with. Potentially, maybe some people can't prep well on a no carb diet doing keto. Right. prep well on a no carb diet doing keto, right? But maybe there might be a lot of people out there who can thrive on a ketogenic diet on a bodybuilding prep, which again, conventionally would seem really out of line and out of pocket, but it could work well for a lot of people. And the thing is, is that you'll never know if it can work well for you or not. If you don't try it,

if you don't give it an honest go i mean most people would probably tell you no that's not the way to do it or you shouldn't do it but then how do you know because it has worked for others right so that just that that just leaves you with you know if you're curious about it and you want do you think it could be beneficial for you you need to just give it an honest go. It might seem. Yeah. Yeah. I think in Robert's case, like, I don't remember exactly what he shared with us, how he got

so shredded, but, um, on one side of it, if he was on one side of it, he was probably low carb and low fat at some point. And the protein was probably high. So he was on a, a, uh, a very minimal carbohydrate diet. His fat was higher than like most higher than normal right but still not crazy but even even giving that scenario the reason why bodybuilders eat the way they eat is because of food volume and so when you eat fat you start missing out on food volume and if you're really dieting long time for a show i mean clearly it

worked for robert but like if you're dieting for a long time for a show it could be really hard if like the only i don't know if you only ate like a fucking ribeye for the day you'd be you know you'd be really really starving so imagine instead of that you equal out the calories in a different way and you have like egg whites can take you really far even though it's like eating nothing right egg whites and rice you could have a pretty big old pot of like food and end up with better food volume and then bodybuilders also eat like a lot of vegetables usually just and again it's just stuff to stuff to fill up your stomach kind of thing yeah with with robert i mean because he had followed the traditional high carb low fat diet for a long time and then we just kind of flipped the switch to just feel better i mean talk about things that like sound you know grass is greener on the other side thankfully i've

never really had to go like super low in calories to like really feel somewhat like what you had said you know about your experience going super low fat for a bodybuilding show um i think the lowest calories you've ever had me i was like like, I think like 1600 or somewhere there, which, you know, on the grand scheme of things is not extremely low for what we were trying to do. But yeah, when he was talking about keeping the fat high, I was just like, man, that does sound interesting. And then I was on his podcast and I'm like asking him a bunch of questions and he's like, yeah, I'll help you out whatever you want.

And then as soon as we were done, I'm like, nah, I'll stick with my high carbs. But yeah, it's mainly because of that volume. You know, do I want, you know, X amount of calories and carbs or X amount of grams of, you know, fat? And it's like, no, I'll go for the higher volume for now. There it is, though. That brings us back to when you were mentioning, like, if I knew that I could get a bit more performance out of this, what I do it, do I have a problem? Like,

did you have a problem where you felt like that? The keto thing was the answer. No, no, it was more of just the fact that I don't want to experience the no libido, the, you know, I don't want to experience that.

But in the meantime, no, I haven't really had an issue. So that's why I you're doing is working yeah except i just need to get the fat up certain days yes way too damn low but piedmontese is so good like that's that's my my main source or only source of red meat and the fat content is just it's get some more of the chub get a little more of the chub i mean they have the burgers right and then there's also um they have some like roasts and stuff if you throw it you have a slow cooker yeah chuck something in a slow cooker those those are amazing it's got

lots of fat i just i get so attracted to the bovets and the um those are delicious that's your fault no it's totally my fault trust me i'm not saying it's anyone's throw a little butter on damn it pete montes can you be less awesome like Like, no, it's, you know, the Flatirons, I just, they call me. Like, literally, they have my phone number. Do you not F with butter much? No. Really? Yeah, because I look at the calories, and I'm like, I'm bad.

A teaspoon of butter is only five grams of fat. That ain't too bad. Okay. So, that's 45. Well, okay. Then you just solved his problem with one sentence. He's like, 45 calories?

45 calories. Throw some Kerrygold on that bitch and you're all set, buddy. Throw some butter on that bitch. Just bought a Cadillac. I'm sorry, I'm just trying to remember that song. We need to make another rap song. Right? Yeah. I actually do need to do that. Well, we were supposed to make one for Hustle Mania, and I never got to writing, and we

never did anything with it. I have one. I have a song. Oh, you have another song? Oh, shit. I didn't know you had it. We never did it. I got it.

Yeah. I got to work on my bars. Your rap voice. Rap voice. We just got to synthes on my bars. Your rap voice. Rap voice. We just got to synthesize your voice or whatever. Autotune, sorry. That shit is really hard. Entertainment in general is really fucking hard.

It is. It is quite difficult. I'm excited to see, to switch gears here for a moment. I'm excited to see the Mike Tyson movie. That's going to be dope. Jamie fox man he is he's been imitating him for years yeah and now how are they gonna get that body though that's the question like how do you get tyson was fucking jacked yeah jamie can get pretty jacked and then there's you know he'll get ho, Hollywood theatrics and smoking mirrors. Yeah.

Make everyone around him smaller. I don't know. Jamie Foxx is just going to get jacked. That's what's going to happen. Tyson was really, when he was really young, he was like just kind of randomly. I mean, not randomly. He was boxing all the time, but he was fucking, he was pretty jacked. Did you hear what Joe Rogan said?

The reason why he got a table in his new studio? Like, okay. He's, I think he said he was, um, he was sitting with Tyson on the second podcast or whatever. Right. And this was when Tyson got in shape. So Tyson came and he was like, he wasn't high and happy Tyson. Like he was before he was like beast Tyson. And Joe was like talking to Tyson.

He's Joe was starting to get kind of nervous because tyson was like using one word answers and just like seemed just very raw and joe was just like yeah i decided from then that i need to have a divider between myself and said yes because during the whole podcast i felt like mike would just come across and kill me that's great well i remember so in uh saying something with joe rogan feeling like he's in danger yeah well in in jamie fox's uh stand-up i might need security highly highly recommend it's old hopefully it's not too dated by now but that shit was hilarious but he was like you know when mike tyson walks in a room it's like a pit off the leash like everyone's like hey is

that yours like is that yours somebody get that pit there ain't no leash on them and so it's like i would imagine that's what rogan felt like like fuck dude any second this this dude's gonna snap that's the perfect like that's the perfect like yeah description like i picture a pit coming in here no leash on we would all immediately be uncomfortable i just come over here yeah the hard thing about a pit bull too is they look so cute they're they look so playful though yeah they look great and they're they're a lot of times they're sweet they so they're they but then you're like wait a second that's a fucking pit bull hit you're like that thing gets me man i'm done and what's crazy so my wife she'll see a pit and she just thinks it's the cutest thing and she'll go and pet it and it's like i'm like nervous and she's just like oh my god like and they're totally fine but they were kind

of bred to protect kids and i didn't know that and i'm like oh that makes a lot of sense now but yeah i didn't know that either i didn't know they were bred bring up a couple clips of tyson please i will um i think this is a good example of like thinking less, but also somebody that studied boxing for many, many years. So he did have to think about I mean, he thought about it day and night, day and night, day and night. But he didn't second guess himself and he didn't overthink what he was doing. He had some principles. He had some beliefs that he implemented. And once he found what worked and found what was healthy for him he just freaking stuck to it for a long time i love watching him run he just like is just chugging along at just like just a real modest pace oh man i can't jump rope for shit yeah man he was so uh so explosive when he was, you know, when he was, uh, destroying everybody, but he's the greatest. He's what made him so good is that he's a great, uh, counter puncher and being a counter

puncher. You're not really thinking like, Oh, that guy's throwing a left. I'm going to duck this way. This guy just blasted. Jesus. How's he still standing? Yeah yeah that's not bad oh wow he just that guy's that guy's pretty damn tough he stood up to a lot of shots yeah he was just so quick too like when you see him hitting like uh when you see him when you see

tyson hitting bags too not just people but right it's just it's it's it's insane to watch that's how quick everything is and snappy it's scary it's insanely uh it's insanely fast we're mainly just seeing some notches axe sorry that doesn't look real to me i know right like whoa wait that's real that's like uh when you go to get up after you drank too much and you're like whoa i had a lot more drinks than i thought i forgot that ref's name he looks so young and the fact that he was like an undersized heavyweight yo that's another thing that i think people don't like remember or realize because i didn't realize like he was an undersized heavyweight like guys would be like 250 and he was what 220 yeah yeah he and he's not

you know the other guys are super tall yeah he's like 510 but yeah you know you're gonna have to uh you know have a really high skill set i think you know you see this a lot in uh in in many different sports where um you know baseball is a good example and that ball's coming out. You can't really think like, oh, this is a, oh, I think he threw a change up. I'm going to wait. And, you know, but they are kind of thinking that way, but after a certain point, it becomes, it becomes second nature. And ultimately, I think a lot of this podcast and a lot of what we share when we're talking about nutrition is we would like for you guys to be able to be autonomous, to be able to do these diets on your own, to be able to do some of this training on your own without having to think about it, without having to like write stuff down and weigh everything all the time and be real meticulous. All those strategies can be great and they can really be helpful and they're good places to start. But after a while, you'll just start to,

uh, have it become second nature after you thought about it for a while and, um, started to find, I guess your truth. Exactly. No, exactly.

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