Mark Bell's Power Project - EP. 565 - Our Experience On Psychedelics

Episode Date: August 3, 2021

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naturally on drugs naturally on drugs drugs were we on? we are now yeah we were on we were on lots of shit tons

see told you I knew he was on something it's impossible to be that big and that jacked and that lean. And only sleep two hours, which we still get. Actually, now we've managed to get down to 90 minutes. Wow. 90 minutes a night.

We're making it, guys. It's probably the deprivation chamber, though, that you're using. It's probably making a big difference, right? It does make a difference. Andrew Hoopman told me about it, and I had one installed in the house about three weeks ago and you don't breathe when you're in there i only breathe through the nose nasal breathing and it's purely it's very shallow nostril breathing so it's like for 90 minutes yeah but i also i mean you're always good on the podcast i mean you're spot on and how do you not pass out content and stuff he makes good well i mean when you breathe that quickly like a little chihuahua yeah you're able to get in

like quite a bit of air and exhale not a lot of people know this about in the sema but he also breathes in and out of his penis so i know i know dude how learn something new about the guy we're supposed to catch up i don't know man you can start getting the separate this sensory deprivation you just don't try from there try less try not just just you won't get better than me that's the fact so i mean you might as well just give up now can we like shorten the gap though or hashtag be worse oh do less be less do less is there a gap well the thigh gap yeah that's bullshit by the way you don't remember thigh gaps mark no i i recall people talking about women having thigh gap how it was like supposed to be something that's sexy i guess they wanted more thigh gap i never

understood that i was like no give me more five yeah like no i don't i want less gap there like if we're being honest like because if there's more gap that means like there's been more traffic in that area yeah i'd rather be less wait what wait what traffic yeah the traffic jam there's been more more things jammed in that all right just easier access i guess that's what i'm saying but on top of that i think it looks better when it's thicker we respect women for all of our 1000 we do we read a maybe you guys do we have we have a positive review from a woman and she she said, she said. She likes the show. Go to our reviews. Yeah. Go read it.

I need to read it again. But. I don't know why anybody would listen to the show. I need to have some people on the show that are fans and ask them, what are you doing? You're wasting your fucking time. Yeah. There's better things you can do with your time. I'm sure.

Are there though? Probably not. Right? Like, yeah. Yeah. Like. Bring up a good point. I mean. This is random. there's better better things you can do with your time i'm sure are there though probably not right like yeah like bring up a good point i mean uh this is random this just popped into my head but did you guys see our boy michael tren no what has he done getting all leaned out again i mean he's always getting he always looks great he always looks amazing but But he got lean, lean and like was cutting to hop on stage. Same with Mark Loebliner. Oh, I know Mark's been going at it. Mark looks awesome too.

Veins everywhere. Veins for days. But our boy O-Tren was talking the other day in a sauna. Oh, he's in a sunlight sauna. Yeah. I was like, what's this about? Getting all dried out. Cheeks are all sunken in.

Yeah. Doesn't have that big chubby face that he gets every once in a while. Looking for Michael. You said he's in a sauna? You know, Mike's strong as fuck is when he starts to look a little Asian. When the eyes start to get very... Mark! Mark!

Mark! No! We had a good run, guys. Okay. Now the podcast is done. All right. I admit it. Asian people don't have different eyes than other people.

Damn. Black people don't have curly hair. I mean, it's okay. We're good. All right. We're all the same. No. Kids used to... Okay, let's talk about this real quick

because we we need to bring this into some context kids used to make fun of me and not even make fun of me kids used to like think because my last name in yang and my eyes were small they'd be like are you part asian are you japanese so like kids be saying some shit and you know kids are the worst though just that observation on mike yeah his eyes got a little you know and there's nothing wrong with that i think uh when i was when i was in japan i think i told you guys there was a little kid that uh he pulled his eyes apart like this and he said round eye round eye he's looking at me oh shit he was looking at me and his mom like smacked him in the back of the head that's funny see it happens everywhere i was everywhere. I was like, damn. I was like, all right. There's no differences.

There's nothing negative about it. Anyway. What were you talking about? I think we were talking about Merrick. Yeah. Oh, we were? We were. Trying to bring this back around.

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He was telling me that he, uh, he hasn't like tried like marijuana or anything like that. Like in a long time. Yeah. Um, I think the only thing he's had like in a long time is maybe a few drinks or something like that here and there. So he took a gummy from somebody. Um, and he said, he said he's down on the beach because we all met at the Jersey Shore and have this family reunion. There's like 40 or 50 bells roaming around,

and he's talking to somebody on the beach, and he just starts losing it. He starts losing where he's at, what's going on. This THC that's in this gummy just all of a sudden starts blasting him and he just puts his hands to the side like he doesn't want to fall you know like he's like feels like he's going to lose his balance and he's just like trying to

concentrate on what somebody's saying and he he randomly says he randomly says to the person he says hey what do you want for Christmasmas he has no idea why he said it and he's like he goes and then i just knew i was like this is good he's like shit's going down downhill fast he's like i gotta get the fuck off the beach and i gotta go like lay down

he's like don't say anything weird say something natural that people normally say yeah yeah what do you want for christmas and i was like were you talking to a little kid he's like, don't say anything weird. Say something natural that people normally say. Yeah. What do you think you want for Christmas? And I was like, were you talking to a little kid? He's like, no. I'm like, if you ask a little kid, you ask someone who's like seven or eight, what do you want for Christmas? It could be any time of year and they're going to be fired up. They're going to give you their list. They're going to be like, here, here it is.

But when you're talking to an adult, they'll be like, what the fuck? Oh, dude. I hate that feeling though even even though like you you've experienced it before or like you know like i had an edible so yep it's hitting me a little bit harder it's still i don't like it i do not like it i'm out i don't like it edibles aren't my jam they're they just yeah edible sense like there was one there was one time it was last year i took an edible. Um, it was like one of those cookies. Right.

And the whole time for the hours that I was high on this edible screamo music was playing in my head. And what's that? You're like, you know, like scream like, like I take rocks. Like, right. That's awesome. My Beavis and Butthead style. Yeah. Yes. But what, like what was going on was just more yelling

yeah this one like this one really hit me and then in my head it was like it's gonna be okay like like over and over and over and i was like well i guess this is just what i'm gonna have to deal with for the next few hours edibles i'm not the biggest fan um three for a loop what was an edible of thc is thc yeah yeah it was uh yeah just a thc edible and the mistake i made not the biggest fan um three for a loop what was an edible of thc is thc yeah yeah it was uh yeah just a thc edible and the mistake i made actually the first time i ever took this edible the mistake i made was you always hear these stories of people who are like don't take too much just eat one cookie right and i ate one cookie an hour and a half later it didn't hit i didn't feel anything yeah i was like okay well

this is what one cookie is like let me take another and then 30 minutes later it hit me so then i was doing calculations i'm like whoa i'm really high and this just hit me 30 minutes later meaning that fuck in another hour and 30 minutes i'm gonna be fucking 30 minutes till launch time yeah and then literally an hour later i was gone like everything was just like i yeah blasted off into the atmosphere i don't know i don't know if i've said it on air i've told you about it but i took so it was it was a cookie and i had a quarter of an of a weed cookie like just a quarter because like oh that should just be enough to have a good time at universal studios so took it before we went and like i

remember how we were in line at like some fucking like juice whatever like you'll say jamba juice yeah and it kicked in and i just started like giggling like oh shit this is gonna be awesome yeah and we're waiting in line to get on a um i think the simpsons ride or something like that uh-huh every everybody turned into a billboard literally like an old like playstation one game where the crowd's like just super cheap everyone turned 2d and i was like oh fuck it's kicking in like really hard like this is cool but then all of a sudden what happens if i take an edible is um if anybody's familiar with like camera settings and stuff um the frames per second in my vision go to like four so like i just see flashes of things i don't see movement i just

see flashes and it can becomes really uncomfortable and on top of that i have i like lose control of my body like i'll start twitching and i'll start moving and weird like i just i can't it's just like electricity goes through my body yeah and i'll just do random shit where like my arm will go up i'm just like what the fuck do you like like you're waking up and are you sleeping you know that jerking motion exactly what it's like yes but it just i it makes me so uncomfortable almost like nauseous it just like and that's just off a little bit so interesting the different ways that this stuff hits people because that sounds like you were on something wild like that sounds like right it sounds like some psychedelic craziness but it was just a

little bit it was just thc and and i've done it after that and the same thing happened i'm like yep it's just not for me i'm out like no thank you interesting thing is like growing up I've seen some experiences in my life where some of this stuff has really just like messed people up. So I was always very like, I will never smoke weed. I will never do this. I will never do that. That's like it's dangerous. And, you know, done incorrectly, this stuff can be. But as I've just like spoke to more people, met more people that have had very positive life changing experiences that

have helped them maybe think in different ways or et cetera, you know, that it opened me up to being a little bit more curious, still cautious. I'm still, I'm, I never going to, I'm,

I'm cautious enough and I don't do these things in settings where I'm like partying or whatever, right? It's more so it has a use to maybe help me with some creative thought or something. And it's been very beneficial. It's good to be suspicious of stuff. And it's good to know like where your stuff came from. And it's good to, you know, have some intention behind it.

I think one of the problems is sometimes things can be laced with other drugs. And then you can get yourself in a really compromising position um i you know i don't know a ton about psychedelics um and so it it's fun to like learn about them but i just i take tiny tiny amounts of them i've never really blasted myself with like a mega dose of anything i've i've taken mushrooms and i've taken like a what i would say is like a fair dosage but i I have never taken like, I think they call it what is the superhero hero dosage, right? Yeah. I've never like gotten into taking anything like that. I haven't noticed taking anything that even threw me off like hours later, you know, like it, like I, I did do a pretty good amount of mushrooms on one particular day. And then by the time the mushrooms kind of ran their course and ran out of me, I didn't feel like I would have felt if I got drunk. I wasn't still feeling like after effects.

I felt fine. Same here. Yeah. I was lifted up. I was high for a while, for maybe like two hours or so, which was kind of cool. And then I came back down, but I never noticed like a crash. I wasn't like incapable of doing anything. Or, you know, when you if you get hammered, you get really drunk.

The opposite seems to be true after you got yourself drunk. Now it might take a whole night for you to kind of sleep it off. And even the next morning, you might not feel the same. Even for me, if even if I don't have that much to drink, I still kind of feel it off and even the next morning you might not feel the same even for me if even if i don't have that much to drink i still kind of feel the next day that's why i don't really love drinking that's the interesting thing about alcohol because alcohol is like it's a substance that i mean in some countries you can have that at your at 16 years old but like a hangover that'll affect you for days i can't remember the last time i've had a hangover because i don't drink that much um but the one two times i have they're like the worst experiences i've literally ever had it was horrible it does right makes me shit a lot too yeah i mean more than i already do yeah yeah with um like psilocybin because i've never taken more than what we did on the show. Yes. That was a good, which was, yeah.

Well, um, go check out the episode with, uh, muscle Maven. Yes. Ashley, Ashley Vaughn Halton. There you go. Who? Congratulations, Ashley, your pregnancy. Yes. Um, but yeah, check out that episode.

Cause we, uh, we all did a little bit of shrooms on that one. But so I remember with like, whether it was weed or or of course you know alcohol but like the next day i almost couldn't like function as well like as far as putting sentences together whoa yeah like i just it really fucked me up now that i think about it with psilocybin did you guys experience anything like that the next day where like your cognitive like thinking wasn't uh top notch i didn't notice anything nothing that's cool that's good to hear like that makes me happy and more interested in in taking like a legit dose one thing that like was noticeable like because it you know when you digest it it does some stuff

in the gut so like some people say oh their stomach hurts so felt a slight amount of like stomach discomfort a slight amount the day of when I was dealing with it. I think you can like dissolve it in some like lemon or something like that. So they were saying help helps digest like a tea or something, break it up a little bit easier. But the next morning I woke up, I went down to the beach and like, I felt fine,

read a little bit of a book. Nothing felt weird. Nothing felt weird at all, which is, I was kind of surprised about cause I'm like, this lasted for probably seven hours like i was feeling it for feeling high for seven hours yeah um go to sleep wake up and i was like oh i feel fine what was uh being high like like what did it what did it do like did you see colors a little bit more vibrant or like what it was it like for you? So it was on the beach at night with a few,

few other people and it, everything kind of melded together. It was really, it was really nice. Things were moving kind of slower since the, again, since it was night, there weren't any crazy colors,

but there is a fire going and the fire was kind of like the fire was very interesting i should say the fire drew me in for quite some time because it was like it was going and it started like it just started forming weird shit and i couldn't stop staring at the fire so that was cool um but the experience that i had with the other people that i was with it was very very nice let's just let's just like it was it was very it was like enhanced in some way it was enhanced massively it was enhanced massively um but yeah i don't have a lot of experience with with doing like large amounts of mushrooms i i would say that i took a good dosage like one time and the one time that i did i was on the beach i told you guys about it and i was just kind of chilling and I was listening to

like a podcast and then I'm sitting there like mesmerized by the waves, which I am always that way. Anyway, I'm a pretty curious person. Like when, when my wife and I and, uh, and my kids and stuff were walking through New York city,

like they have to stop all the time because I, I just like stop and stare at buildings. Like I'm just, I'm fascinated by like structures. I'm fascinated by, uh, trees. city like they have to stop all the time because i i just like stop and stare at buildings like i'm just i'm fascinated by like structures i'm fascinated by uh trees i'm fascinated by just i don't know stuff that maybe regular uh not like maybe somebody just would walk past and not think twice about i like to kind of like take things in the only way for me to really take them in is to like really observe them and look at them so like something like a museum or something like that, it's going to take me hours to get through a museum.

I'm going to stare at fucking everything for a long ass time. And I've always kind of been that way. But on mushrooms, when I was sitting there, I was listening to a podcast and I was like, I should take my headphones off and listen to the waves. And the sound of the waves was just enhanced a ton. And then I was like,

I wonder if I could like maybe hear them even better. If I close, if I close my eyes, I close my eyes. Now I'm seeing like all kinds of colors and stuff as the waves are coming in. And there's different colors hitting with every time I hear the waves crashing in. And I was like,

this is fucking whatever this is. This is awesome. Like it felt really, really good. So that's's that's been most of my experience i haven't had anything uh to where i've had like you know some sort of awakening or uh anything quite like that i just because i have not done a large enough dosage one of the things i don't really like about mushrooms is i'm a fairly quiet person in general anyway.

And they make me, uh, they, they kind of make me like, I don't want to talk, you know, which is good. Cause then I shut the fuck up and I can listen to people better, which is nice.

Um, but for like a setting of like going to do stuff with friends or going to do stuff with family, I found Kratom to be a lot more useful in those settings because then I feel like it's easier for me to be a little bit more social. On another note, which sounds, it's like hard for me to even say the words out loud because of the stigma that I've kind of put on some of these drugs in the past. And some of the things that you hear about some of these drugs.

But I really like acid a lot. Oh, let's go. Yeah, LSD. And that actually seems to be really awesome. Even like for a workout or something like that. You've done it? Yeah. When?

An hour ago. Actually, I'm on acid right now. I forgot, man. I'm so high. No, I've done it a handful of times, you know, five, six times. These all have been really small dosages. These have been micro dosages. I have even like I've even taken like a micro dose and then went a little bit more than that.

I've even like doubled the micro dose and felt it a little bit more than that. I've even like doubled the micro dose and felt it a little bit more, but it's felt amazing. It's felt so good. And for me personally, I like that feeling a lot more than I like the mushrooms. That feels really, really good. I,

I have access to do like, you know, some heavier ones, but I don't, I don't know if I feel that I, at this point in my life, like where I'm at and what I'm doing, I don't really know if I need something to hit me that hard to be transformative. But I could be fucking wrong. Maybe I could use a good change of pace.

I don't know. Quick disclaimer. We don't know what we're talking about. Don't do drugs. This shit's illegal. This is for comedic purposes only. Completely ignore us. Yeah, we really don't know what we're talking about. Don't do drugs. This shit's illegal. This is for comedic purposes only. Completely ignore us. Yeah, we really don't know what we're talking about, honestly.

No, yeah. But we have some people that can guide us through it. And so I don't think it's smart for anybody to mess with any of this shit unless you know somebody that knows it, that studies it. Even taking this stuff with some sort of intention, like, don't just take it recklessly just to kind of see how fucked up you get, you know, maybe kind of have a little bit more of a, of a purpose with it when you're taking it. So I started out by taking stuff like on some walks and started out by taking stuff when I know that I, uh, was alone, but also I think it's important to make sure you have access.

And this is like, I mean, shit, this is even for anyone doing an injection of anything. Like it's, it's not the smartest thing to like do stuff completely alone. You're probably better off letting somebody know like, Hey, this is, this is what I'm doing. This is where I'm going to be that way. Like if something did happen, if you did take an overdose, or if you did take something that was unfortunately laced with something, you can maybe, you know, get, get someone to help you. Somebody that's not high. You might sometimes need somebody like kind of to almost guide you through it.

But my experience is so far, they so far, they've been great. And one thing I – once you mentioned about intention is so important because it's like – the reason why I made sure to do so much research because before I did anything mushrooms even before i think the first time i smoked i was like 23 years old or something right the reason why i was so scared about a lot of this was because i have a very close family member who um had a like they they had a a gene or something within them that was underlying right right? They did something once and then they got schizophrenia and it changed their life. Like they are not the same, right? So that's why I've always been extremely careful. And like, you know, even with the shrooms, right?

I made sure to try a small dose, see how it affected me, see how I was. Then I tried a slightly bigger dose another day. And then I tried the actual like dosages that the individual told me to give a shot and i was fine it was a great experience but you got to go into like i suggest that people go into this with intention like some people like to just party and like party on drugs or whatever that's not what i tried this stuff for like sometimes if i ever do use weed, it's usually like, huh, I want to maybe see what type of thought I can come up with. Because I do end up thinking

a little bit more creatively and out of the box and certain ideas have come to me when I've done that. And the same thing with shrooms. I was curious what kind of things, what I would think. So when I was on that beach, there was a period where I was just sitting in a squat staring at the water for like 20 minutes just thinking right and there was a lot of good thought

that happened there a lot of cool interesting things but you don't want to get yourself to a place where you find that you need these things to do things right because it's that could be a slippery slope where now like you feel like you have to smoke every day so you can get something or you smoke weed every day right exactly right have you ever looked at the back of a 20 bill on weed from uh half baked i fucking love that movie chapelle's awesome but like you want to be careful that you don't find that you are now dependent upon these things to have a normal existence because they can heighten a lot of things i think it's so beneficial um but i also think that you you just gotta you gotta be intentional you know don't let it take over

i definitely envy you guys with like because in the way i imagine it it could possibly be because you're kind of tapping into this different side that is it's probably it's it is there because like the way we dream and like the natural DMT that we get in our system makes us dream from crazy shit I feel like you guys are able to access a different part of your brain or maybe just like your brain can stretch out a little bit you know it can kind of just like ah let's reach over here and see some fucking purple waves and shit the way you explained mark and i just feel like the where i'm at right now maybe i can't

allow myself to quite get there without taking you know or without trying a little bit of mushrooms or whatever whatever it may be and the reason why i'm envy of that is because it's like i feel like damn am i being am i is there a cast around me right now where i can't tap into this and start thinking creatively with the cast around all of us all the time that huge cast yeah yeah we're i mean we're we limit our i mean you got the limit sign on your hand there with crossed out i mean there's we have so many limitations on ourselves. It's just whether we want to realize it or not, you know, we can say, no, I adapted a stronger mindset and I'm full blast, I'm full bore on everything

and I'm going to, you know, but we limit the shit out of ourselves. Yeah, we do. We just limit the shit out of ourselves. And I do think these things can help you kind of gain some access to maybe understanding that that the mind is a really powerful thing. It's the most powerful thing on the on this earth. Humans are really fucking weak. Human beings are really, really weak. the toughest person that you know and uh have them fucking fight a grizzly bear have uh have them fight a fucking tiger have them uh fight any animal fight a fucking pit bull i mean you're gonna get fucked up you can only kill it if you can outthink it with a weapon or strategy of some

sort fucking trap the thing somewhere or something like that but you know we're are not, when it comes to like what we can do physically, you ever see the way a cat fucking reacts to something or a dog or even a baby, the way a baby can move, like the way that their arms can move. Like when your son is really crying, I actually tried to mimic my son just to kind of see what it'd be like to move my arms around. That shit hurt, like hurts your arm, hurts your elbows. And it's because like we're limited like as soon as we grow a little older as soon as we can like start to really think our thinking really protects us and it it puts us in a better state of like strategizing

like i'm not going to put myself in that compromised position because that doesn't really make a lot of sense and so because we can be rational and reasonable we therefore limit the fuck out of ourselves and so i think sometimes some of these things can really uh open up your mind to kind of get into a zone where you're like you know what fuck it man i can do that because i've already i've already kind of gotten close to that so i bet you i could go a little bit further where does it become detrimental um thinking about the uh the the burnout that we knew in high school or junior high and then they kind of never amounted to anything the burn the burnout like the weed head that was just like

no weeds natural like it's okay blah blah Joe Rogan smokes. When does it become detrimental? So, you know, I think anything in your life that affects, negatively impacts relationships, negatively impacts a job, negatively impacts your well-being, you know, those are all things where you want to start to say i think all of us have done this with even just caffeine and coffee because we're all pretty conscious of what we're doing and i know the three of us have been like i've had like three or four things today that have caffeine in it and i'm probably like at a gram or something of caffeine for the day and that's a little excessive i should cut back i. I should, you know, my heart. Yeah. Yeah. Maybe not the best thing for your heart. Maybe it's causing issues with sleep,

which is causing issues with performance on the podcast, which is causing recovery issues and, and so on. So I think that's usually, those are some of the markers that you want to look at from my experience, which is not a lot um i have not noticed mushrooms or acid to be addictive at all um you mentioned like where does it become detrimental now i have heard of people having really crazy experiences sometimes with psychedelics but i don't know i don't know if there's other drugs at play. And I don't want to discredit the fact that it may have actually been

just acid, but there's been situations where I've heard of weird things. People think they can fly and they fucking jump out of a window or something. That almost happens to a kid in my high school. That's so scary. Yeah, he was on acid and he went towards the top

floor opened a window his friends had to pull him back he had his dick in his hand and he was like squeezing it while staring out the window like looking out the window screaming and people pulled him back because he was about to jump jesus yeah yeah so that's why i like gotta be careful with this you know and like as a kid like again that that's like your brain's not developed your brain's not developed that's a big thing like someone like that's why i waited till after i was 25 for certain things because the brain like most of everything is like good done um uh because the person in my life like that happened before they were 25 and that's why i was super scared because i'm like if i do the wrong thing i could might not be the same

right you mentioned you researched it what do you mean by that what'd you do uh i looked into a lot of side effects i looked primarily into uh what drugs could have an effect on potential people who have underlying uh schizophrenic traits, right? Because that's what happened to somebody in my life. They hadn't, they weren't that yet, but they did one thing. I got to send you a podcast from Andrew Huberman. Yeah.

Talks a lot about schizophrenia. Really good. I want to hear it. I want to hear it. But the person in my life, one day took something um and wasn't the same like legit it's like bad trip changed some brain chemistry and schizophrenia developed and for the past decade not the same person this is totally off topic but uh something i heard on andrew huberman's podcast it's the first podcast that he did i'm forgetting the gentleman that he had

on the show but they did talk about schizophrenia and autism and things like that. There's some sort of paper that was out talking about people's body temperature in relation to autism, where some children have had fevers. And then they didn't. They weren't autistic any longer. And I was like, what in the fuck? I've never heard that before. longer and i was like what in the fuck i've never heard that before um but it actually makes sense because there are some illnesses that sometimes people can get where they get so sick and they have such a fever that they uh it kind of like cooks their brain and they end up in a really

compromising position they'll end up uh in a wheelchair or they'll end up you know just losing a lot of capacity of what their body can do. But somehow having this higher body temperature killed off whatever it was that was affecting them, that was leading them to be autistic. I was like, holy shit, man. That's crazy. There's just so much wild shit out there that we just don't have any idea about. Can we quickly just give a big old kudos to Andrew Huberman? He's got a sexy voice, too. He's got a

handsome guy. We've got to just give him props. Yeah, Andrew's handsome, great voice, but his information guys, you probably listened to his episode on muscle hypertrophy, but he's talking about that Palmer technique to cool down. It helps with recovery or whatever. I'm not

going to get into it because I don't know how to get it cooling down your hands and stuff and how like that can massively help your recovery and then your recovery from session to session but it doesn't have the negative effects that like something like an ice bath would where it inhibits um um inflammation that you actually want for muscle growth so these are crazy new things that no one's talking about because no one really knows about it yet. And Andrew's just on that line. He's sick. He's going to be here soon.

What about, I know it's going to be awesome. What about, um, you know, people utilizing some of these drugs for PTSD? Yo, yeah, this is getting to be huge. We have one of, uh, Stan Efferting's friends that we'll have on the show, uh, in the next couple of weeks weeks who's going to talk about this quite a bit what are like i mean shit man those people have really gone through it and if they could find anybody that has traumatic experiences and and something i found really interesting that i heard joe rogan say more recently was uh the worst thing that has ever

happened to a person is the worst thing that ever happened to a person. So there's no reason to compare pain. Like if you came, if you came back from the war and you're having a lot of trouble and you're, um, you have depression and anxiety and I'm over here living my life the way I'm living my life. I didn't go to war. I didn't have abusive parents, but let's just say I am depressed and I have fucking anxiety, too, just over different things that have happened in my life. The worst thing that ever happened to me is the worst thing that ever happened to me. And that's what people carry with them. And if you can take something that can assist you and kind of walk you through that and just show you, like, I heard, like, DMT will kind of brush you up next to death.

And when you see what that looks like, it just gives you a different, I mean, there's many people that have nearly died. They have a whole new perspective on life. My dad being one of them, my dad nearly died a couple of years ago. He's,

he's always been awesome, but it made him more awesome. If there's such a thing, he, he never says no to shit. You guys could call him up right now and say, hey, Mr. Bell, you want to come to the gym and check out our podcast? If you invited him, he would fucking be here. Yeah.

Because he nearly died. It means something different to him than it does to us. If somebody invited us to do something, we would only go if we really wanted to do it. He doesn't think that way. He's like, that person really wants me there, so I'm going. Wow. And I'm still alive, and I still get to go to these things, so I'm there. Yeah.

Memento mori. You know, the stoic practice of, yeah, this is assuming. I forgot how Marcus Aurelius put it, but just like if you died right now, like, would you be happy? Essentially. And, yeah yeah it's fucking wild gives you great perspective you should have him on the show marcus really we could have a really is my son he he started his own show yeah i have to put that post up i've been real hesitant about posting shit with him like his face clearly in it yeah just things get weird

but of course the one post I put up, we're both on the beach. We get hit up right away. Like, Oh, we want to feature your son on blah, blah, blah.

I'm like, man, fuck off. How about that? Whoa, what? Yeah. Like,

Oh, your son's going to be a star, blah, blah, blah. Like what's, we want to feature him on our page. Yeah.

That's what it is. I'm just like, no, go away. But yeah, no, um, my mom is kind of jacked.

He's dude. He's got delts and he's, yeah. no. He is kind of jacked. Dude, he's got delts. He's cute, bro. And he's, yeah. Thank you. I love that little guy. Scissors cheeks. But my mom saved my first laptop.

It was like a learning laptop. Uh-huh. Like a VTech or some shit like that. It's like WizKid something something. It's like an underpowered calculator is what it is. But she saved it and it still works. And so he was like messing with it,, just pounding on the keyboard and stuff. And then I'm like, oh, check this out.

And I put my microphone right in front of him, and he's holding it. It's such a cute little picture. I have to post it. It looks too good. So, yeah, he's got his first podcast off the ground, sponsored by Pampers, promo code PoopStories for 25% off. It's so good. But, yeah, little guy's growing, six months it's awesome yeah and sema

are you looking for anything in particular when you're going on these uh trips i mean not to get too personal but i don't know if there's something that you're kind of like wishing to gain from it or hoping for is it just really just kind of an expansion of your mind or something i really think of it as just expansion like when i like when i was on shrooms i was just thinking about things with family things with like work things with goals things with personal relationships i was just letting my mind kind of go down those rabbit holes or whatever it was like it was still enjoyable too it's not like i'm over here just whatever but like i really do just want to see like how open my mind can be just because like in general as an individual because um you know i i'm fairly conservative in terms of certain

ideas i'm not talking about politically either i'm just like i like to i'm not very uh not that i can't be a risk taker i don't take take Matt. Like I don't like, yeah, I don't, I do a lot of, you mentioned it was difficult for you to jump off the side of that cliff. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

You know what I mean? I'm not impulsive. Let me put it that way. I'm not very impulsive. So the main thing that I was looking for with any of the things that I utilize is, uh, potential extra opening of creativity.

And the thing that I've been able to notice for myself personally is that even when I'm not using any of these substances, I am now much more creative than I used to be. There's an also a, uh, cause I think when I was younger, I used to believe that I wasn't a creative individual, but I think there's also an understanding and belief that I am creative cause I know I am right. But I think some of these things kind of helped me to navigate and think in those areas and kind of just be more adventurous in those areas and for me that's very beneficial so that's what I look for out of this stuff just expansion and different ideas different create levels of creativity different planes of thought that's what I'm looking for yeah creativity is an interesting thing how a lot i

hear people say that often you know they'll say oh man i'm not or they'll say even they'll say um i'm not a leader you know i'm not a and and it is understandable there are people that have uh maybe some better makeup or better experiences in life to where it is a little bit easier for them to lead. But as soon as you realize the person that's in front doesn't know where they're going either, it certainly makes things a lot easier. You're like, this person just kind of decides to take over on this particular role. And they learned it, they studied it, and now they're pretty good at it. So now they kind of take the lead on it. But it doesn't mean that you can't.

I think that's the issue is like we look at someone else and we think they have this. And you think for some reason that somehow limits your ability to get that same thing. And it's like, no, you can get, it's just going to be a different version. The way that you lead might be totally different. You look at all the successful coaches over the years. There's so many different coaches to look at who had a lot of success. There are some people that are really loving and caring and did a great job that way. And there's other people that are like maniacs with it.

You know, there's other people that really kind of ruled with an iron fist. So when you think about creativity, leadership, these are all things that everyone's capable of. Creativity really just takes the ability to take a particular concept and to poke some holes in it. That's really all it takes. I mean, just imagine if you're on your way to work and you're thinking about a particular thing that always gets done at work. That's very inefficient. And you're like,

I fucking hate doing that. Like rather than wasting your energy that way, think to yourself, I wonder if there's maybe a more efficient, more effective way for us to get this done every day. Cause I'm pretty sure everybody else in the office doesn't like it either. Maybe we could figure out something. Maybe we can get maybe two, three, four heads is better than one.

Maybe we can grab a couple of people together. Maybe we can have a conversation about it. You get to the office, talk to a couple of people. Turns out everyone fucking hates it. The same thing that you hate and they want to make some changes. You start throwing out ideas. And before you know it, you probably start out with a bad idea but that's where creativity kind of starts you can even do this is something that i practice i start out with the worst idea yeah you know what i like that yeah because we've been because we've been mentioning so much like

we've we've talked about the like people limiting themselves and having limiting beliefs on this podcast and that was a limiting belief that i had in the past that like i wasn't creative i also like used to hear that from like certain people that are close to me like and that that kind of like seeped its way into my thoughts right so i i was like okay yeah maybe i'm just not not that creative an individual and i'm okay with that right but that in itself it's, it's one of those limiting beliefs that like, when you believe something about yourself, you believe you can't do something or believe you, you can't do this or you, you, you can't get that big or you can't get that strong. You're not going to, because you've already set, you've already set your place. Right.

So I'm going to mention this because like some people already know but like i have this tattoo on my hand my mom listens to this episode i'm going to die today but if she doesn't i'll be okay um she used to always tell me like this was her saying um there's this saying in the u.s that the sky is the limit right and when she first heard that she's like that that doesn't make any sense like why, why, why is there a limit there? Like she always say the sky is not the limit. Right. And she'd always tell that to me forever growing up, which is why I think I had such a strong belief in myself in terms of certain things that I did. So I got this tattoo that has limit with a line crossed out and it's on the top of my palm because it's just a consistent reminder

that like there is really no reason to have a limit on yourself for anything that you try to do. And if it's how big you want to get or how much money you want to make or what you want to do, the only person that has a, uh, put it's putting something in front of themselves to stop themselves as you, like you're the only limiting factor. And if you don't limit yourself, you're going to make it bro. So anyway, that's why I have this. Yeah. We, we, uh, we ended up hearing a lot of these things about ourselves. We think a lot of these things about ourselves. We think that other people think things,

think these things about us and we adopt that and we pull that in and we're like, this is what I am. You know, I was, I was a jock. I played football. I was going to lift weights. I was going to be strong, some physical stuff. I was going to be better at every better than most people, uh, at. And then when it came to anything with any sort of mental capacity, I was going to be the dumbest person anyone's ever seen. Like, that's what I, that's what I kind of, you know, pulled in and retrieved and held onto for so many years. And there was just no, it was my own, it's my own falls, my own like disbelief, but I just didn't really recognize it, uh, at the time. And I didn't really

know, um, that it would be like stifling in a lot of ways as I got older. Uh, but you know, the magic is in some of the pain that you experience from some of these things, thinking these thoughts about yourself, uh, as long as you have the mental capacity to kind of handle some of it, then you can kind of work your way past it. And then those things end up being huge strengths because what a great thing it is to think going into something. I know nothing about this. I say this a lot. Yeah. I'm like, I don't know nothing about this i say this a lot yeah i'm like i don't know anything about this like and even with employees it's been really helpful to say andrew you're the podcast

expert i don't know shit like tell me tell me more about what we're doing or what we need to get done or things like that and just when you put it into other people's hands they then feel empowered they want to help you more because they're like well i know that mark isn't super technically sound on his phone i know he can't see half the shit that's on there so i know he doesn't have social media and his eyes are going he's getting old he's falling apart we got to walk him down the street for 10 minute walks and so then you know people uh people want to get involved and kind of help you when you are transparent with some of the things that you're not great at and i think it helps you ask better questions too yeah when you're like fuck i don't know anything about said top or subject or whatever

and it's like you can ask it opens that um i guess that like it just allows you to ask more questions you'll probably ask with some shitty ones and then go from there. But going back to the creativity side of things, when I would take a shit ton of, um, nootropics, it was mainly because I was trying to get more creative as a aspiring photographer at the time.

It's just like, I'd see other people's work and it'd be like, damn, how did they come up with this? How did it come up with that? Um, so that was like the main reason for it. But the other side of it was um like memory retention and kind of like oh i learned how to do this hopefully i can remember how to do that the day of the shoot with psilocybin

and some of these psychedelics did you guys experience anything like that where like you tapped into a different side of your brain and there you were able to remember some shit that happened a long time ago or even after it just helped you kind of remember things a little bit better so that's exactly what microdosing is supposed to help with i don't have enough experience to know that for sure um for for myself but uh i've heard experts talk about this quite a bit to where your jujitsu practice is that much more locked in into your brain. Something that you may have been working on could be that much more locked in your brain due to the heightened experience of it. I would imagine it depends on what you're trying to do as well. You know, if something is really complex, maybe you're too high to maybe you took too much stuff.

But on the micro dosage level, I do believe there's some truth to that. I do think it's worth mentioning that I'm a firm believer that you can get to a lot of these spots, maybe not seeing the colors and things of that nature. But you can get to most of these places without drugs as well yeah you you can get there i mean you ever just you know you listen to jordan peterson or or whoever your person is that you like to listen to and they say something that just boom it just like blows up a chunk of your brain it's like somebody just fucking hit that part of your brain with a bomb and you're like holy fuck and it somehow makes one part of your brain it's like somebody just fucking hit that part of your brain with a bomb and you're like holy fuck and it somehow makes one part of your brain and one part of your mind connect to the other side or something and it's like it like cauterizes it together and you're like holy fuck

that makes everything else make so much more sense and you get so pumped about it or excited about it at least i do i'll get like goosebumps and I'll be like super motivated and super fired up. And 10 seconds later, I won't be, but no, I get, I get charged up from that. And those things have really helped me be creative with the creation of the slingshot and the creation of the steak shake and the shake straps. And none of these things have yet to come off off the heels of uh doing a psychedelic so that'll be interesting when we start really making really weird stuff here at slingshot you guys be like oh he's probably high when he made that that'll be so much fun though but uh i've gotten there through some research too just by you know listening to certain people and having certain

influences in my life. Because my brother will kind of report to me on certain things that he's tried and he'll come to me and say something. And I'm like, oh, yeah, it's kind of like this, you know, and I'll tell him like a quote or something. He's like, how do you know that? How did that? I was like, well, I just I've been researching stoicism.

I've been researching just, you know, different philosophers and things of that nature. Yeah. By the way, what'd you guys, what'd you eat last night? I, so I traveled, you know, pretty much the whole day. And I got home at like eight or nine o'clock. So I ended my day with a steak shake. But while I was on the plane, I went through about four bags of Piedmontese biltong meat. Wow.

And those are really good. I had all the flavors. Well, I think they only have three. I think they have three flavors. So they're just sending you all the Biltong. Mm-hmm. Fair. Okay, cool.

It's all right. I think they said, hey, you should share this with Encima and Andrew. And I was like, nope, I don't think so. All right. It's fair. I'm just housing all the protein. Glad to know you care. But you were saying?

Absolutely delicious. And just sat there and just, you know, did some mindless eating while watching TV, which I don't normally do. But what else are you going to do on the plane? Yeah, on the plane you're bored as hell. So I just went through a bunch of piedmontese. That's dope. I had a, it's weird.

I don't even know what it is exactly, but it's called a Manhattan cut or something like that. It's a smaller steak, but it only has like half a gram of fat for the whole thing. It doesn't make sense. I like it as like just like almost like gram of fat for the whole thing it doesn't make sense i like it as like just like a almost like a side to like the main dish because it is a little bit smaller are these cows getting leaner and leaner or is it just me are they could be you are what you eat so you eat some lean cows you're going to become a lean muscular individual i like it i like it speaking of mindless eating um love is blind is back yeah i i maybe watched the the whole season but there's only like four episodes so that's my excuse but there is no excuse for eating uh less than amazing quality beef

because we have piedmontese and uh you guys can dive into this as well. It's over at piedmontese.com. It's P-I-E-D-M-O-N-T-E-S-E.com. And there's definitely no excuse to pay full price because you guys are checking out today's episode. Make sure you use promo code POWERPROJECT at checkout and you'll receive 25% off and a free two day shipping on orders of $150 or more, but definitely go in there and check out some of the incredible meats that they have there from hot dogs or yeah,

hot dogs to hamburgers to amazing steaks. Yeah. Hey, Oh, again, pete Montes.com links down in the description as well as a podcast show notes. Uh,

do yourselves a favor, get the beef ribs from Piedmontese. They are fucking amazing. Don't be intimidated by them because everyone's got like a special weird way of cooking them or whatever. Here's what I did with those bitches. I had them delivered out to New Jersey along with a bunch of other meat that me and my family enjoyed. I put the oven at 350. I just salted it and seasoned it, threw it in the oven, and about, I don't think it even

really matters how long, like, you have to cook it for a certain length of time so it's cooked. I don't think it matters too much. You don't have to, like, get it exact. It's not like cooking a steak. Put some tinfoil over top of it. So it's kind of concealed in a little thing that it was in. And about four hours later had the most delicious beef ribs ever.

You know, the, you know, the fat that you get, that's like, I know it's making me starving. You know, the fat that's kind of hanging on like on a on like a ribeye you know some sometimes the fat is weird right and sometimes it's stringy and it's not edible as much as you want it to be edible sometimes it's it's not edible this was like so soft it was like uh it was like chunks of butter coming off the meat it was was so... I hate to even... I feel like such a pussy. I hate to even admit it. It was almost too much. I had to stop eating for a little bit

because it was so much fat. I don't even know what it was doing to me, but it just... It made me stop for a minute and regroup, and I started eating again. But there's so much beef on these ribs. Normally, beef ribs... If you go to the store and buy beef ribs, they're scrawny and you're trying to take a little bite of it.

These things are like, each beef rib is like, shit, man, it seems like almost a quarter pound of meat on each one of them. Fucking awesome. Awesome, awesome, awesome. You got to do it. Real quick. Yeah, well, I'm going to make it worse. So when we were at the Tahoe house, Mark, thank you again.

My family and I had a freaking blast. You and Andy are just so damn generous with your guys' stuff. And so Mark and Andy let me stay at their Tahoe house. Brought the whole family. It was a blast. But one of the nights, we're hey like let's let's really like have an awesome dinner so i took two tomahawk steaks up there from piedmontese and the reason why i bring it up is because like it drives me nuts when people say they don't know how to cook

i've never cooked a steak in an oven ever i didn't google it i didn't do anything all i did was put it at 350 threw the steaks in there and kept checking it every like 10 minutes well not initially it was like 20 but then i just kept doing that over and over and i found a thermometer i don't even know if you have if you know you have one just jabbed it and then checked it like nope not there yet jabbed it again nope not there yet there's some more salt nope not there yet okay we're there came out perfect i mean and it's a little bit unfair because it's a tomahawk ribeye but like dude come on man everybody you can you know how to cook all right people people need to cook yeah and that was definitely one of them hey did you guys like get the munchies

or anything while on psilocybin mushrooms or anything like that on shrooms no no i didn't get i didn't get any type of munchies on shrooms, but that is one thing to be careful with. Did you? I didn't notice any munchies while on them, but when I came off of either LSD or mushrooms, in both cases, I was pretty hungry, but I didn't really feel like I needed to eat

a bunch of crap food. All right, so I do need to ask you, because I didn't get to even understand, what was your LSDd experience like like what what what happened like what do you what happened i don't really know how to explain it but i feel like mushrooms feel like they kind of chill you out yeah and then lsd feels like um it gives you more of like a heightened experience with a little burst of like energy, almost a little bit like maybe a little bit like Kratom. Um,

but you are seeing colors and again, I haven't messed around with it that much, but people kind of appear to be a little cartoonish to you, which is a little bizarre. So, uh, what's the scene? Uh, uh, will ferrell he gets like hit in the neck with a dart or something or he's he old school old school

right and he comes out of the pool that scene is kind of what you feel like you feel a little bit like that crazy man but it's not that it's not like i like you but you're crazy yeah yeah you're crazy yeah the voice is all weird right see if you can find that that's amazing visually there's nothing really happens but he just he just fucking yeah he's just all tranquilizer but the um you know like uh you know like on instagram you can set the uh what are those called filters yeah and things are like vintage and the outside is like is a blurred and then there's like more color in the middle right it's like that it's like kind of walking around like that and uh i took it one time when i was in here lifting and i was

talking to um i think you gotta let us know when you take something like that. Oh, yeah, I will. Just to make sure everything's okay, that's all. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, why is he trying 700 pounds? What's he doing? Is he stretching? He's stretching? What? He's got his bench shirt on.

What the fuck's going on? Yeah, so it just makes everything heightened. And yeah, it seems to nullify some of the seriousness of everything. I mean, you're not going to start giggling like an idiot or anything, but yeah, it made me feel really lighthearted about everything. Because in there, training, and I love training and stuff, and I always have fun with it, but it just felt like it was almost easier to have fun with it. Okay, that's cool. I always thought, you know, when you hear about acid. It's called acid.

It's called acid. It sounds scary, but, you know. called acid like it sounds scary but you know no soon um but i was going to say when it comes to mary joanna people do need to be careful with that because it gives you for some people it gives you massive munchies right if you're trying to take care of your health and you're trying to like you know trying to diet might not be the best thing to do that in the middle of your day because you will feel hungry. And you're. Yeah.

So just just be careful with that, peeps, because. Oh, dude, that was close. It's just literally whatever. Anyway, yeah. Just be careful with that, guys. Yeah. OK. Yeah.

I remember hearing about, you know, kids doing acid in high school and stuff. And I'm just being like, fuck, dude, like that that's some serious drugs i can't believe you guys are and then now i'm like hmm sounds interesting yeah not as a kid though no i know yeah well woodland there's not much to do there so and if there's any young people listening to this right now teenagers whatever remember like you have a forming brain you have a lot of stuff going on you have a cocktail of hormones that's going kind of wild as you're growing you don't want to add other chemicals into this because that could really mess with your development straight like straight up you got to understand that can mess with your development so like you know your parents probably

like oh you can't do that till you're older this is really some things these are things you probably don't really want to mess with until you're older yeah just being real so please on the video where um mark's explaining his um mushroom experience on the beach somebody had commented like i think it's so or i think it's funny that adults are doing this now it's like i think adults have always been doing it. It's just now, you know, it's a little bit more acceptable or it's okay to, well, I mean, if you're Mark Bell, you just share everything. So it doesn't matter. from reality a little bit here and there. Yeah, we talked about that before. Kind of almost no matter what you're doing.

Maybe even just like downhill skiing is an escape for you. Some people choose to do it with some drugs, and some people choose not to. Some people are doing it with alcohol. Some people are doing it with nicotine. Some people are using marijuana. I remember when my uncle died of a drug overdose when I was a kid, and I just automatically thought he was a bad person. You know, I just, and I remember being at his funeral being confused because there were so many people that told me how much they liked him and how he was their friend. But I don't know, I can't remember how old I was even, but I was like, but i was like no he did drugs like he you know he should have known better type of thing like why would anybody do anything like that i had you know pretty negative thoughts about it uh but i just didn't

have any knowledge and he he did uh you know turn to some drugs that he was heavily addicted to and he overdosed and um and that that's what happened with him but i remember just not being able to separate the two like oh what he did doesn't necessarily um you know doesn't necessarily make him a bad person he just uh you know ventured into that got himself into something that he couldn't dig himself out of and so it is important to be really really cautious with with any of these different things that you're doing but i I like the mentality of, of not ever really looking down at anybody who is choosing to do these things rather than just saying, uh, it's all similar. It's all, it's not all the same. It's all quite, quite different, but it's all similar. I think

dealing with, dealing with life is something that has been difficult for everybody, probably at some point in their life throughout history, forever, forever since the beginning of time. It's been that way because as humans we're smart enough to understand that we're here, but we don't know why. And that is really fucked. And so when you kind of think about that, that can be really overwhelming to some people sometimes.

Or to kind of just see how small we are in comparison to the stars and the sun and the ocean and different things like that. Sometimes it takes your breath away. You're like, holy shit, what is my purpose? What am I doing here? I don't know. And so I think this is why I think a lot of people will seek out doing stuff that just takes you a little bit off course here and there.

It puts your mind in a slightly different mood. So we ain't got to think about that shit. We don't have to think about the intensity of life. Absolutely. I think one big thing that I think is so good as far as Oregon when they're legalizing psilocybin, because that has a lot of medicinal benefits for people with real mental disorders. And you look at some of the medications that people need to take for certain things. It's causing them such crazy side effects. It causes them to eat excessive amounts of food food it puts them in a brain fog where they legitimately can't think it's a lot of just a lot of medicine medications is

just straight up dangerous and things like mushroom psilocybin these things could legit just be the thing that makes the change for them with minimal to no side effects so it this is good. Cancer patients, things like that. Andrew, want to take us on out of here, buddy? Yes, sir. Thank you, everybody, for checking out today's episode. And a huge shout out and thank you to MerrickHealth.com.

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Kratom is something that there's some peeps that are trying to make it illegal. I heard about that. Let's all kind of pay attention to that. I'll try to make you guys more aware of what's going on with it. My brother is working on assisting and helping to make sure that that doesn't happen. A lot of people like it a lot, and I think it would be, it would suck if it was illegal. So anyway, I love the product. I know that some of you guys might like it too.

So you can check out mindbullet.com and get yours while you can, because who knows what's going to happen with it. Strength is never weakness. Weakness is never strength. I'm at Mark Smiley Bell. Catch you all later.