Mark Bell's Power Project - EP. 584 - Tony Huge Is Back In The USA

Episode Date: September 2, 2021

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Then we won't be able to take back all this stuff, right? No, we can't take anything back now. All the controversial stuff. We need all the, well, actually, we don't need all the cancer. Not going back into YouTube jail. No. Wait, are you saying? Andrew, what was the name of that movie that you were having?

How to Be a Player? How to Be a Player. I feel like this is like the uncle that we get to ask any questions to. Uncle Fred, because Uncle Fred was the OG player. Uncle Fred, right here. Uncle Tony. Yeah. Hey.

What's up, everybody? Podcasting today. Hell yeah. Anyway, before we get to diving in on the many questions that we always have for Dr. Tony Huge, we got to talk about our sponsor. We got Merrick Health. And Merrick Health and Merrick Health. You're going to want to go to their website and sign up for the consulting

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And this panel, they also have a female panel. And this package also comes with a consult with your patient care coordinator and a written report. So you have everything, you know, kind of written out real easy for you. Again, that's at MerrickHealth.com slash PowerProject. Use promo code PowerProject for $101 off of that. Links to everything we just talked about just now down in the description, as well as the podcast show notes. Tony, you and your crew, that's kind of all you guys talk about, right, is blood work. A lot of times you guys are talking about like what happens when you take, you know, this particular thing or when you take this particular supplement, does it actually do anything?

You've been getting your blood work done for what, a decade, maybe more? Yeah, I do a lot of experimentation on myself of underground chemistry. So I've got to do the blood work so I know what it's doing. There's a lot of people that don't do it, though. There's a lot of people that will take performance enhancing drugs and they just kind of are just going about it whatever way. And some people just with rec drugs to recreational things, they're just maybe not sure of what's going on.

So it's great. Most human diseases, they accumulate over time. And if you catch them early, they're easy to treat. But if you wait too long, sometimes it's too late. I mean, cancer is the best example, right? If you catch cancer early, there's usually a lot of things you can do to prevent it. But you catch it too late and there's nothing you can do about it. So there's all these different organs in our body that you don't know what's going on unless you look at the lab work. And the lab work's not the end all, right? If the lab work comes back really bad and you can treat it and all that, but you can also

do more diagnostics like ultrasounds and stuff like that. But the lab work is just the easiest thing to go in and get a great picture of your overall health and, and be able to figure out if there's something you need to look into more now to prevent a bigger problem later. Was there anything real concerning about your blood work more recently? Or have you had blood work done recently since you've lost, what, 40 pounds? Yeah, I get blood work done all the time. So I'm in Thailand and blood work there's, you know, pretty really easy and cheap to get. So I get it frequently. And I had it done right before I had the flu. And then right after, and then again, right before I came to Thailand. So I had the flu and then right right after and then again right before I came to

Thailand so I had a pretty comprehensive lab work and I could see you know before I had really bad cholesterol and my liver was my liver enzymes are always elevated and then after Rona now my most recent blood work okay there's some really bad things like a lot of clotting and inflammation you know that's those are normal effects of it. And that's staying with you currently after you had the flu. Yeah, I still have the clotting. My D-dimer, that's how you measure your clotting. And you want to be between 0 and 500, you know, as low as possible, preferably as close to 0.

And in the flu patients that we're seeing that are actually dying, they're having over 2000, 2000, 2200. And I've got 2500 right afterwards. So mine was just absolutely extreme. That means I have blood clots all over my body that at any one time one could dislodge and give me a stroke, give me a heart attack, block the blood flow to my lungs, and pulmonary embolism, all kinds of things. Do you think that this is maybe a little extra concern with the pandemic, with the virus that's swirling around? Do you think people that have utilized performance-enhancing drugs that may have increased their red blood cell count,

maybe even just folks that aren't on performance-enhancing drugs but have sleep apnea? Like, do you think that, you know, this virus would potentially be more dangerous to some of those people? Yeah, so us bodybuilding people, on the one hand, we exercise and we eat healthy, and that gives us a huge advantage. We have really good immune systems usually. We're usually aware of nutrient deficiencies and, you know, we, we, we, our bodies are health much healthier than the average individual. But we're at a bit of a disadvantage when it comes to this specific virus because we have thicker blood.

If we're using these compounds, like you said, I have higher platelets. The more platelets are what clot when you, when you, when you get a cut or something. And if the more platelets you have, the more you're going to clot, the faster you're going to clot. And I have high platelets, so I'm prone to blood clots. And this virus actually causes blood clots. So now you have two major factors, like being a bodybuilder, you're already predisposed to blood clots. And then this virus causes blood clots. So bodybuilders at a disadvantage there. So, but balance that against the health fullness of, you know, fitness and exercise and the diet we do, and maybe it washes out to be what a normal sip. But for me specifically, yeah, my D-dimer being so elevated that could have killed me. I,

I was very close to dying from this. But a lot of people, and thank goodness someone told me, they die afterwards because the blood clots form and then they dislodge and later they have a heart attack or something. So people are dying three weeks after they've recovered. This makes me really curious because can you, for bodybuilders that do take stuff and they do have thicker blood because of the compounds that they take, a lot of individuals, yeah, they might do dieting and stuff but a lot of them like they

don't do a lot of cardiovascular work they just train a lot and this could be something that they need to pay attention to or do certain things to mitigate any type of damage that would happen if they ended up getting the flu so what should they be doing or paying attention to? Because who was it that we had on that talked about fatty liver disease and bodybuilders who use shit? Vigorous Steve. Yeah, Vigorous Steve. He was talking about like how a lot of them have fatty liver disease and they don't even

realize it until they do get some blood work done. So what can they do to just make sure that they can mitigate anything that happens if they do end up getting the flu? So there's always been a big debate over whether you should take a baby aspirin every day or not. And I think most people feel like taking a baby aspirin every day is a good thing. And I think most doctors are on board with that as well. I think before, yeah, okay, either way, I think it's helpful. But now I think it's almost necessary. Like look into taking a baby aspirin every day because- A baby aspirin? I'm like, there's just an aspirin? It's 82 milligrams.

Yeah. Okay. So there's usually 300 milligrams. Yeah. Right. But the baby one's a really small dosage. And I did really deep research on aspirin. Let's just pause for a second and talk about thickening of the blood.

Maybe you can kind of fill people in a little bit more. But my understanding is that in some cases, just where red blood cells are elevated, your blood is thicker, correct? Yeah, more red blood cells and then in my case, more platelets also, which is more dangerous. So you're trying to figure out a way for that blood to be able to flow a lot better and not get like stuck places basically. Yeah, so in your arteries and in your veins, the most common cardiovascular disease is just plaque buildup and the, and the veins and arteries,

they get more rigid. They can't flex. And if they're, if they're flexible, then, you know, things can get through easier and things aren't going to get blocked. But if they become rigid and they become smaller and narrower, then the smaller the clot it's going to take to block it. And when you get that blocked, your blood gets backed up and you don't get blood to a specific organ. Like if you don't get blood to your brain, you have a stroke, you know, you have a heart attack, your lungs. Thick blood going on along with drinking caffeine and pre-workout and clenbuterol and things

that people utilize. So you got thick blood that's trying to circulate fast and your body's like, hey, man, I can only pump the sludge around so, so much. Right. And aspirin thins the blood sort of basically it prevents clotting more than anything. But there's also blood thinners. I'm on blood thinners right now. I'm cycling between three different common blood thinners that the people with heart disease oftentimes take. And I'll stay on those until my D-dimer score gets, until my blood work proves that the clots are gone. Yeah.

But this is going to be a huge concern for bodybuilders. I mean, I think you're going to see a lot more heart attacks and blood clotting disorders now that the virus is here. And of course, bodybuilders having been using these compounds, making their blood thicker or making their arteries less flexible, and we're going to see a lot more heart disease. Did you get vaccinated? So for me, the risks of it didn't outweigh the benefits,

but I understand. I know you got vaccinated. I understand the argument for and against getting vaccinated. For me, I had this flu in the beginning, you got vaccinated i understand the argument for and against getting vaccinated for me i had the this flu in the beginning i'm sure because i was immune to it i couldn't catch it even if i wanted to i tried to catch it my girlfriend had it i couldn't get it from her so i knew i had immunity to the first strain but this new strain the one that begins with the d you know the same going around and i don't know if it's that exact strain, but I look up.

Do you guys know how many variants there are like that are being tracked right now? I've seen a list of like five, but I'm sure there's going to be unlimited. Eventually, there's like 13. Yeah. And it's going to just going to keep going. I mean, how many variants of the regular flu do we have? Unlimited, right? Every year you have to get another flu shot because there's another variant.

So I'm not going to miss a night of sleep. So I think your choice to not get vaccinated, I think, you know, each person, I think it's it's good to allow people to have to have choices. from some of the information that came out the last couple of days, safer than myself because I got vaccinated, but you have your natural immunity working against whatever's out there. Yeah. And as far as the vaccine, I'm not opposed to all vaccines. It's just that this vaccine is quite a new technology. And I'm sure there's going to be some vaccines coming out that use the older technology that that I feel has been is safer just just for me. OK, this is funny because I'm an underground researcher and I'm injecting myself with compounds all the time that people think are dangerous.

And I'm the first to use some of these things. And yet I don't want to get this other thing. Well, maybe part of that's the anarchist in me because the government telling telling me to, and I don't want to do what the government says. It's like, yeah, DNP helps you lose a pound a day. That was cool. But when this thing helps you lose a pound a day for too long, it's not cool, right? Yeah. And hey, catching the flu anyways was a great way to lose weight and get shredded and fix my cholesterol panel anyway.

It's forced fasting. So when you had posted about like your experience with the flu again quote the flu that was the first time that i had ever genuinely been like really concerned because i'm like okay here's somebody that i know lifts every day you're jacked you don't have i mean i know you have like um some respiratory issues from when you were younger but generally like if you know something were if you were if somebody were to get the flu and they look like you or they look like, you know, I don't know, your average. Your girlfriend got very sick, too, and she looks like she's going to live to be 150 years old. Yeah. Right. But that was that was the first time where I was like, oh, my God, like this is even real.

Like that sounds dumb to say, because obviously I know it's real. But like that was the first time I was ever actually concerned. So you're in the middle of Thailand. Like I got like super like anxious for you and you were like, no, Andrew, I'm going to be fine. And like, I was texting you and asking you like, does this mean I got to get the vaccine? Like, what do I do? Like, oh my God, I have like no options now. And you're like, what are you talking about? And it's like, you really talked me off the edge. Thank goodness. But how have you been able to remain so calm? And also to add on to his question on how you're able to remain so calm, the bodybuilders

that let's say they look really jacked and they have that healthy look, but they're on a cocktail of shit. Are they actually healthy along with that? So two questions. Okay. That on that one, I mean, it's just like a car. You could have the beautiful exterior of the car and the inside of the car could look really bad. I mean, the difference is we're biological, so it's connected. So usually you can kind of see, you know, it's kind of usually if you're destroying your body, it's going to show on your skin and your hair and eyes and everything else. But, uh, so yeah, you have to, that's why you going to show on your skin and your hair and eyes and everything else.

But, uh, so yeah, you have to, that's why you have to get blood work and stuff. Cause a lot of these things you just don't know. Like you can't feel pain in, there's not nerves for pain in every organ in your body.

You know, you don't just like feel a pain. I would go to the doctor and you have to actually check. I think it could be pretty simple too. You can kind of boil it down. Like if you lift all the time and that's your strength and that's what you're good at but you don't have the ability to have any cardiovascular you can't test that at all in anything then that's bad like i don't i don't think that's very good and i think that that's not a that's not a great that's not a great way you live your

life whatever way you want to live your life but it's not a great way to live your life if you're trying to be healthy if you want to live your life for a it's not a great way to live your life if you're trying to be healthy. If you want to live your life for a period of time that way, like I did, then, you know, hey, fucking go for it. But I do think that people should just kind of consider that. Like, if you can't just like, you know, test your lungs, your lung capacity a little bit here and there, then I think that that's a good sign that you're probably not nearly as healthy as you might think. Yeah. So I was nervous to tell people how bad my experience with the flu was. You know, just what is it? A month ago was three weeks ago. Even I was in bad shape.

And then now. So three weeks of recovery now are two and a half weeks of recovery. I was afraid to tell people how bad it was because I didn't want people to overreact and have more fear than they should. So I want to give people all of the information, which is that I think I could have prevented it with the right cocktail of supplements and pharmaceuticals. I don't think it requires getting a prophylactic vaccine. I think in the future, I'll say what I would do if I could go back. I had my entire condos packed full of supplements. I collect, I'm probably like a supplement collector. It's

like my people, like some people want to look at money in the bank or cars in the garage. I want to have the biggest supplement collection. I told you, I was like, you need to make an ebook of like the supplements you use. And then you showed me like this video. You're like, I got some over here and then some over here and then some over here. He's like, I could never really put this in a book. I don't even know how to, I don't know where to start. You should see the look on girls' faces when they come over and they see all this supplements. They are so confused.

They never, it's like they're looking at an alien spaceship. Like what is going on here? That's how many supplements I have. And in a laboratory too, where I make stuff. how many supplements I have and in a laboratory too, or I make stuff. So I didn't want to scare people about this because I know that now, especially I know that if I just added in a couple extra things, I would have been fine. But when the brain fog hit really early, like one of my first symptoms was brain fog and my brain was not functioning properly. I couldn't problem solve. I couldn't normally the way my brain works is like you say, OK, like Andrew was saying, he's got he wants to know what I do for anxiety earlier. So I made some notes for him here that I can talk about if you want. But normally he says that in my brain instantly thinks, OK, we've got these six pathways. Here's what we can take for each pathway. Let's look at lifestyle, diet, and

training and everything. It all comes together in my brain. And my brain couldn't do that at all. Like I couldn't figure out like, what should I take? It was so foggy. So, you know, I'm trying to treat myself and I don't want to go to the hospital because it's a foreign country and they're locking people up in these warehouse prisons, you know, for quarantine. I didn't want to end up in the warehouse prison. Later, I figure out more details about that. And it's not as bad as I thought. But if you have no money, it's bad.

You're getting locked in a warehouse. Warehouse prison. I'm not going to that. Yeah. In Thailand, they're used to sleeping on the floor. They're used to eating fish heads in broth and calling that food. I had fish head in broth. It's pretty good.

I mean, seriously. Do you eat anything? Two weeks of it every day, though. I feel it. You don't speak the... I don't even know what they speak in Thailand. The Thai language. You don't speak that at all either.

That's what I mean. I was nervous. The girl that was with me and she also had it, she also had really bad brain fog. So she wasn't that helpful to me. And her English language got worse. I just stopped talking to her because we couldn't communicate between my brain fog and her practically forgetting English. Wow. And so that's when I was really nervous when I'm on the couch.

I'm like, God, if I told her, if I told her to call an ambulance or this or that, I don't even know if she'd be able to do it. Wow. You know, so that's when I was nervous. Being in a foreign country, not having – and I did have a lot of friends, and I could have called a lot of people. I just didn't want to make people worry too much. It was so bad, and I was so optimistic.

I kept thinking I'll get better tomorrow. I'll get better. And my lung capacity kept decreasing. And I would think of it like percentage. I'm like, okay, my lungs are at 80%. This is fine. I'll be back at 100% tomorrow. And then 70, 60.

And then it gets down to 10 and I'm sucking little gas air like this. I'm trying to calm myself down to keep my heart rate down so that I consume less oxygen. And then it's just like, okay, I'm just going to stay here and sit all day and rest and sleep, conserve energy so I don't need so much oxygen and just it'll get better tomorrow. And it didn't get better. And so what I ended up taking, a couple different things, but the antibiotic is something I should have taken earlier because the virus causes inflammation. And then when you have inflammation bacteria, it's easy for it to grow.

And you can take all the antivirals and anti-inflammatories you want, but if the bacteria is still in your lungs, bacteria is going to keep growing. So that's why you have to address each pathway. That's the reason why the best treatment is to take an antiviral, an anti-inflammatory, an anti-blood clot or blood thinner, and an antibiotic. And then just general immune health and vitamin D and zinc and all these things. But if you're addressing each pathway, nobody should die from this. You could potentially take the antibiotic now, you think, for people that are trying to avoid it. No, no, no. You don't want to take them during, huh? See, even me, I hesitated to take it until the last possible second, until it was absolutely life and death.

Because every time you take an antibiotic, you kill all your good bacteria in your gut. And you do a lot of content about health and the gut, and you know how important it is. Right. bacterial infection. So you're already taking this stuff periodically. I kind of want to have to take it again for the flu. You want to make it count? Yeah, I want to make it count. This is not how I want to use up a bullet. Save a bullet for something that I had a little more fun. Let's pile on a couple more of these STDs and then I'll take it. Yeah. So take it early and take it if you need it, but definitely never as a prophylactic using an antibiotic. You know what I'm surprised about? And you probably know way more about this than I do, but I've been surprised about the amount of friends I know that have had C. diff because they got sick with something and then the doctors prescribed them just a lot of antibiotics.

And then their gut just ended up getting just wrecked. And then they didn't even realize that they had C. diff. I think that's what it is, right? What's C. diff? It's like when you take – Maybe SIBO? Maybe you're saying it wrong? I don't know. Maybe you're had C diff. I think that's what it is, right? What's C diff? It's like when you take. Maybe SIBO? Maybe you're saying it wrong? I don't know.

Maybe you're saying it right. I don't know. Just describe it. So when you take too many antibiotics, it like ruins your gut microbiome. And then it's like your gut's wrecked, your digestion's wrecked. You have massive pain. Like you poop blood. It's rough.

But it comes with like an over um uh you know over over prescription of antibiotics and i had a few friends that have had that recently and it wasn't um the cd i think it's cd if you can look at i think cd if it's a panel that you can get done okay i believe you might be talking about cebo cebo i think it is called cebo cebo okay it could be again it's probably cebo hope him just people are listening we're driving him crazy. Look up over-prescription of antibiotics. But it's like when you take too many, it's like your gut just gets wrecked. And they were wrecked for weeks because whatever they had, they just took too many antibiotics. So it sucks.

So my mom had that. And she got really ill. And finally figured out that she needed probiotics. And she took a bunch of probiotics. And that's what ended up recovering her. But she went back to the hospital. and she's having all this problem and they give her another antibiotic yeah that's what happened to her that's what happened to a friend of mine they gave her more antibiotics the opposite she needed more good bacteria not to kill all the

bacteria yeah uh so in in uh yeah and actually in thailand things are not as clean as here you know i figure i get a lot more bacteria from my environment. I replenish the bacteria a lot faster. I was also, people always ask, I talk a lot about sort of sex relationships type stuff and the chemistry around it and all that. People always ask me if I like to eat

girls' butts. That's really not my thing. But then, I think they're joking. They're like, you think there's any health benefits for it, right? And I'm like, actually, good bacteria. I mean, they're doing fecal transplants. I mean, this is a way easier way to do it than a fecal transplant.

So, yeah, it has health benefits. Health benefits, sure. But with the gut bacteria, yeah, once you kill the bacteria, they say it takes about six months to get your bacteria really back to normal. So she's working out in that. Yeah. She's like, that's actually her workout of it.

That is the, that is the most famous porn star in Thailand right there. Really? Yeah. She is. Wow. Wow. She is sexy.

I mean like, you know, you see a girl and you just, she's radiating sex. Like you just look at her and all you can think about is sex. That's her. The pictures don't do it justice. Really amazing.

Oh, radiating sex. Sorry, I didn't mean to sidetrack you guys. My bad. This is so funny. Oh, my God. Oh, gosh. This is great. Yeah.

Oh, those are my main girlfriends. Yeah, that's Cat Crazy Cat Lady on the left and uh werewolf on the right all right tony can you talk to us a little bit about how this works over there because you like you would like you just talk about all these different girlfriends and it's just like explain some of this that's perfect yeah that's a good you know i'm curious what these girls think about this too yeah like uh because i and i interview them i talk to these girls think about this too. Yeah. Because I, and I interview them. I talk to these girls on camera on my YouTube channel,

Relationship Starts Tomorrow also, and just candid conversations, just really blunt conversations. And I asked them like, what do you think I think about this situation? You know, the fact that you girls are here. And I mean, I got two girlfriends living with me and then I also have them leave and have other girls come over or I go visit other girls. I mean, I got two girlfriends living with me and then I also have them leave and have

other girls come over or I go visit other girls. I mean, every day I'm with, you know, a minimum of two girls and usually three per day. That sounds like so much energy. And you think, and what blows my mind is I grew up in America here in Sacramento and Folsom, and I always had really jealous girlfriends, very controlling girlfriends, and I had really bad relationships, traumatic relationships. So for me to go from that to this other extreme, I just can't even believe it's real. And it's almost like I'm pushing it a little further than I need to because I can. It's like I've been starving my whole life and now I'm at a buffet. And now I'm just, yeah, I'm just stuffing myself.

A lot of times. Stuffing yourself full. Stuffing myself and stuffing them. And sometimes it's just like, you know what, I'm here. And then when I know I'm going to come back to the U.S., it's like, okay, well, I better rampage before I go because it's going to be quite a dry spell coming up here. But the girls are okay. Everyone's so judgy here in the united states yeah but my but i started this lifestyle before i went to thailand it's just a lot easier in thailand and and cheaper yeah i mean because i don't i don't i'm not afraid to admit that i support these women you know i'm okay with that either i'm supporting them emotionally. Us men,

we're supporting women either emotionally or financially or whatever. That's fine with me. Actually, the girl on the left in that picture was she works a normal retail job and she has her own money. But the girl on the right quit her job when she figured out she could get supported by me.

I know you moved maybe two years ago or so? Yeah, maybe a little over a year and a half. And I know that you did the whole like you did like corporate America stuff like you were a lawyer, like you did a bunch of different things. Are you happy? I'm really happy now. Yeah. So when I was a lawyer, I was it was awesome. I mean, it's a good like status thing. It's an intellectual thing. It's a good business and finance thing. It gets me into these, these communities and, um, respect from the community and challenging mental, uh, work. But, uh, you have to, it, it's not freedom. It's not really deeply what I, what I want to do with

my lifestyle, because especially when you're in a professional role like that, you've got to be professional. Like I can't be running around doing crazy polygamous type stuff so much as a lawyer. And then my clients are going to see that. And so I had to, I had to have sort of a lot of odd in the United States, a lot of shame over like sexual stuff.

Like people don't, they don't talk about it. If they do, it's embarrassing. Nowadays, you know, you can get all kinds of you can get in some hot water, you know, talking about certain subjects. And there's the and the feminism type thing. You know, these women, it's like for a man to have multiple women is like highly offensive to some women also. And they they in america the you know is that a feminist thing though i um i think if everyone's in agreement it's probably different right if you're trying to do it behind someone's back well i think it's the opposite so i think

the way you ask the question means you might be on the same page which is that you know feminism would actually be the women having more choice to do what they want with less judgment. And a lot of women do want alternate style relationships and for them to be able to have that or, or express their sexuality more like the girls in Thailand do, uh, that is an expression of their femininity and their power over their own body and their ability to, their ability to transcend the cultural barriers that were preventing them from expressing their sexuality before. Yeah. Yeah.

That's how I feel about it. And that's what my audience, some of my audience thinks my lifestyle is amazing. And some of my audience loves the chemistry stuff, but they hate the stuff with the girls. They think it's terrible. They think it's like sex trafficking. They think it's like just paying for women, is like a like a i don't know what when you like thinking about paying for what to me it's hard for me to even see the mindset anymore right of the other side but they think paying for women's like really really bad but i i don't i'm not always always paying for women it's

just i have nothing against it to me it makes no difference one way or the other one it only costs you know a little bit of money it's a very oh i was gonna i was gonna say do you uh because it's all still i mean this lifestyle with where you live in is still newish i guess do you still sometimes get like your feelings hurt and stuff because they are relationships right like you have uh but maybe it's for different stuff or or is that like just not. So I when I when I started these type of relationships that I have a long time ago, when I when I first went to Thailand was I was 30, which was nine years ago or. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Roughly something like that. And so then I saw this completely different perspective on relationships. And and I thought, you know what I, the key for me is to,

to get rid of the jealousy, but it's, it's a, it's a basic instinct. I mean, it's a part of our reptilian brain. So you have to, just like anything, you have to really work hard to be better than your reptilian brains, the way I think about it. So yeah, I still feel jealousy and I'm sure that I'm sure girls feel jealousy too. But when I asked them, actually, I still feel jealousy. And I'm sure that I'm sure girls feel jealousy, too. But when I asked them, actually, I say, like, do you feel jealous? And then they say, well, yeah. But at the same time, the feeling of jealousy is not providing me any benefit. Like the girls are actually logical like that. It's kind of a Buddhist. yeah way of looking at yeah yeah so i i practice that myself and especially like um even when me and and my friend spend time with my my girlfriend that like i was really with this one girl and she she was providing me all the best experiences and bringing girls over and and i was like i got to do something amazing for her what do you want to do and she said i want to you know i would love to sleep with your friend because i had my friend Ken is just a really amazingly look good

looking guy. Right. I'm like, okay. So I bring him over and all together and I'm thinking like, okay, am I jealous? And if so, how do I, how do I block that? And yeah, I was feeling jealous. You gotta be like, Ken, don't fuck her too good. All right, bro. Just fucking ease up. I did say one boundary. said i said just don't finish inside that's the only thing just so that's that's like the only nothing else was off limits like everything else was we would a lot of stuff but that was the one thing because i didn't want her to get pregnant and then not know whose it was yeah that's really that was actually a logical thing it wasn't even an emotional thing yeah um. So I think I've overcome the jealousy and every day I have to work at it.

But that's it's almost like when I when I should feel jealousy, but then I overcome it. I feel better. Yeah. What about like eating with somebody or going to a movie with somebody or like is are those part or is it like you only you're only this man left. You're only, you're only together when you're quote unquote hanging out. I mean, you know, the funny thing is I'm the one who wants to date. I miss American dating.

Like, Hey, let's go see a movie and all that. And the, basically the girl's response is they won't say it exactly. This will paraphrase it to save time is why would we go see a movie when we can just have sex like what's like isn't it better isn't it better if we have sex why would we go see a movie you're all emotional you're like i just want to snuggle yeah like i want a little bit i'm the one who wants a little bit of foreplay every once in a while yeah foreplay romance you know you know. Is that a snuggle up on the couch? Is this Ken's a really good looking guy? Oh my God.

This guy is a magnet. This guy's beautiful. So he's a beautiful man, but in America... What a smile. In America, sure, he'd be good looking, but there he's a God. I mean, he's Brad Pitt, you know,

to what Brad Pitt would be to American women here, I guess. Oh man. When I walk down the street by myself, all the girls are looking at me. And you can literally, any girl you want, boom, you can have. Right? When I walk with Ken, they ignore me completely. And they're all on Ken.

I've had a... This is bullshit. Yeah. I had this one time, this girl's riding by in her scooter. I'm pretty upset with Ken right now. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But, you know, he didn't look like that. He didn't always look like that.

Talk about a transformation. Oh, we were? This guy was like a nerd. You helped him out and then he took all your girls? I'm just, yeah, I basically get the scraps now. What was your story? You were on a scooter or something you said? The most extreme example is this girl's on a scooter. She drives by, she almost gets in an

accident staring at him and she pulls over and she's like trying to get with him and ignoring me completely. I haven't even say anything. She's not even acknowledging my existence. Wow. Yeah. I was just kind of how I feel in America. So, so I'm in Thailand and I'm used to every girl wanting me and then it can have any girl type thing. And then you come here and I'm walking through the store and I'm like, wow, no girls are even looking at me. Like there's no, and I'm thinking like, can I even visualize just going up to a girl and taking her home right now? Just tap a girl on the shoulder, randomly say, am I ugly? But I don't think it's different in America.

It's not like no matter how good you look, that doesn't mean that you can just have anything you want in America. And there it's just more primal. And I'm talking about Pattaya. Every city is different. But it's more primal. And again, Pattaya is the sex capital of the world. Yeah, yeah. And so it's not just horny foreigners that go there.

Girls from all over Thailand, if they're an infomaniac, so they just like a lot of sex, that's where they go because then they can get satisfied. And why does it seem like it's just more accepted there, though? Like, I'm pretty sure girls are kind of like that everywhere, but it's not going to happen here in America, right? Wait, what? No, I'm saying, like, guys and girls have desires, but we can't be very vocal about them here. But in Thailand, literally, there's a central hub if you want to, you know, have fun. I'll just say that. Yeah.

And it's, again, different city by city. But the overall sort of Buddhist culture is very accepting. You know, the high society is very critical of each other and it's more American style but the common people are just accepting you know like the lady boy and transgender thing it's never never even an issue like nobody they're just like everybody else there's no reaction to that it's it's whatever anybody wants to do people aren't really nosy people aren't really trying to impose their beliefs on other people they're just very accepting of every religion, every race, every lifestyle. And then you have, of course, Pattaya or any of these towns where basically places, the types of places where like the US military goes, you know, where they want to party. You know, they develop this market, the supply and demand.

So the demand for this, when foreigners go to certain places or American military men, especially go to certain places, there's the demand. And then the supply follows, you know, then people, girls realize, wow,

this is, there's rich guys. Well, cause to them, we are rich guys. And with a lot of money here that are willing to spend it on me. And, uh,

yeah. And it's not, it's not just like, it's so different. it's not like prostitution like like here it sounds like sugar baby on crack yeah it's like sugar baby style style stuff yeah it's just they want to be of course they need money for food and stuff but they but they doing what they love in pattaya i feel like everybody's doing what they love and everybody's happy so for those who don't know what like sugar babies are um sugar babies

are like people here in the united states it's actually becoming more and more popular there's actually a website for this um but you know women will go on there and there will be men that have a lot of money and sometimes they'll just go on dates and maybe get free meals some of these men pay women's tuitions and sometimes it ends up being a sexual just like transactional type of relationship and that is called sugar babies they're also um i don't know the term for men who do sugar baby stuff but i think it's oh they're also sugar babies but guys um so people do that i have guy friends that actually uh well i won't say i have guy friends that uh are sugar babies yeah yeah yeah to wealthy thai women so it's transactional amazing and then so

out of nowhere in thailand i don't know anything about the whole country or anything but you have found a whole group of people that lift they're super jacked and they all speak english and so i'm like really confused when i see your videos i'm like wait did he like move everybody with him or like how did that come to be yeah it's starting to become a real fitness community over there and then and wow and and so bangkok is is there's a fitness community but in pattaya now we have a really fun one everybody loves the same lifestyle of no things are locked down now but generally it's like gym sauna sushi, sushi buffet, girls, some psychedelic supplements. And everybody's in the same rhythm and everybody's dynamic. I mean, like you have Joe Aesthetics, for example.

He's part of this group. Yeah. And Sebastian, our other German friend, very similar to Joe's style. And these guys are just so much positive energy hard workers also hard working you know they're influencers and they're coaches and all these type of things a lot a lot of uh fitness coaches that can work online they go there yeah and and and uh only fans models you know a lot of the guys do only fans what about raising a kid you have a baby now right so uh what kind of um how does

that maybe disrupt things or how does that change things for you well i both of my daughters are in the philippines right now one's an american citizen but the mom is filipino and and so during this while this whole drama was happening in the u.s it was better for her to be in the philippines although philippines is really locked down now and she was having a hard time getting out she she actually tested positive for the flu and they locked her up for two weeks and she just got out so now she's going to fly back here so i'll be with baby mama number one and baby callie six years old my daughter uh in about eight days and i'll bring her up actually in eight or nine days i'll bring i'll bring her over here also and then my other daughter's two years old and she's going to stay

in the philippines and filipinos unfortunately it's hard for them to travel and get visas a lot there's certain nationalities that they just a lot of countries just don't let them don't let them in so in order to see her i neither need her to come to Thailand, which is also kind of locked down now, or I need to go to Philippines. But you can't go to Philippines if you're a foreigner right now. It's locked down. You have to be a Philippine citizen to go into Philippines right now. So I haven't been able to see either of my daughters for almost a year and a half. But I video call them all the time.

We're constantly on video video calls so they're they don't forget who i am and the moms showed my pictures to them so when they see me it's going to be just like they saw me yesterday it's not like we've been but yeah i'm missing out on a lot of raising them and obviously you know you're a parent too away from us do these women in thailand eventually maybe like i don't know uh want to do something different and then they maybe trap individuals by getting pregnant? Sort of. In Philippines, 1,000%. Oh, totally.

In Thailand. Were you trying to sublimate? Okay, keep going. In Thailand. And in America, in America, actually, that was my experience. Yeah. But when I was I don't know so much now, but when I was a lawyer and, you know, that was the type of guy that girls wanted to try to trap. Yeah.

I don't think they I don't know if they want me anymore. The girls in America want me anymore after all the Tony huge stuff in Thailand and all that. Yeah. Yeah. So what was the question again? Just like if they, I don't know, get tired of like what they're doing and just being with many different people, if they want to eventually like trapping a man one day, just not even so much trap, but just settle down with a person, I guess.

In Thailand, it's very different. In Thailand, the girls don't want to get pregnant usually. Really? Yeah. And they love that, especially in Pattaya. They really want their freedom. And they all have this like I was surprised because I interview a girl on my channel about this. And I'm like, you know, do you want to have children?

She's like, I don't want to have children until I'm in the perfect relationship and my life is all put together and it's going to be very strategized. And this is like a young girl who's going to be very strategized and this is like a young girl who's a party girl and all this stuff so even these party girls who you think don't plan anything when it comes to children they actually do plan yeah it's very very interesting so no i i don't feel like they're trying to trap uh at all um but do they want to settle down kind of i mean girls a lot of these other type of girls down there also do like their freedom. And I interviewed another girl about this and I was like, God, you're, you're a great girl. Like I would love to make you one of my girlfriends,

you know? And, and she said, no, I like my freedom. I like to be able to sleep with whoever I want, whenever I want. I like to be able to party with my friends. I like to be able to sleep with whoever I want, whenever I want. I like to be able to party with my friends. It's like, damn it, her stock just went up. Now you want even more, right? Yeah, so I'm surprised. No, they, I mean, every girl wants the perfect relationship, you know, but they're not, they're okay. That's hard to get. And, you know, you're putting your expectations expectations high and part of the Buddhism philosophy is sort

of keep your expectations low or having really no expectations at all. Yeah. Yeah. But that doesn't mean not have goals and not do amazing things. That just means it's much easier to be happier if you're always exceeding your expectations. Like expectations, not a good word.

Goals is a good word. Yeah. So they have goals, but they don't have expectations of that. What it like being a lot lighter is are you like upset about it depressed or are you happy with it like probably move better you lost what was it 40 pounds yeah yeah it ended up being about four i keep saying 33 35 but in the end i guess at certain times it's been at least under 200 pounds and you've been oh really pretty damn jacked for a long time that kind of becomes part of like what you think

is your identity right and people uh uh you know people go to your page and they're inspired by your muscle mass and what you've been able to build and stuff like that and they're so how does it feel now to have lost that weight? Do you feel like bad about it or what's, what's going on in your head? Well, when I first started this fitness and on my Instagram page, you can see like,

I'm really shredded. So yeah, I lost a lot of muscle, but I also lost a lot of fat. And now I used to be more of a shredded guy and my body structure and my metabolism is more conducive to being shredded. So for me, being big is is uncomfortable and it's difficult and it's hard to maintain. I liked being big.

I'm glad I did it and I'll probably do it again. But I think now my default mode is going to be more on the shredded side. And one of the reasons I liked being big or I was big is because I love eating, but to the point where it's almost an eating disorder. And after two weeks of fasting, I really broke my carbohydrate addiction. My body became keto adapted again. My insulin sensitivity is amazing. My waist got small. See, I'm pulling the vacuum. Like I haven't been able to pull a vacuum like that since before I started gear more than nine years ago. My waist was tiny. Can you say that again? What you said about you, how you broke your carb addiction? Yeah. So, so normally that was awesome. Normally I would be binge eating

chocolate every night and I'd be just eating all the time. And, and, and, uh, it's like a physical addiction and a psychological addiction. You weren't a fan of fasting, I don't believe, before, right? It was, you know, it's the type of thing where I, and I have a fast metabolism. If I don't eat, it's like, oh my God, my stomach, I need to eat. My stomach's eating itself. Oh my God, I'm losing muscle. I'm going catabolic. I need to eat every so often, you know?

And so after fasting, it's like, wow, this is okay. Actually, I feel good. And, and yeah, okay. I didn't feel good at the time, but afterwards, because I was sick at the time, but afterwards, yeah, being lighter and then being in a ketogenic state. And even though I had the brain fog, like this energy, I was coming back to my brain that I forgot what that feels like when you're in keto for a while. So, you know, now I'm eating, now I'm gaining weight and I'm eating more food. And even that just slight amount, I'm starting to feel the energy level decrease again. So like, oh, okay.

I need to incorporate fasting, maybe even just one day per week, a detox. I mean, I know there's more benefits if you go 48 hours or 72 hours, but even just one day a week, a nice reset, especially to keep the waist small because my waist kept getting bigger because my digestive system never got a break. Yeah. You know, it's interesting. Like it was very self-aware when you'd mentioned like you're, you have an addiction to eating so much. It was almost at the level of an eating disorder. What do you mean?

Like by that, would you just, do you mean that you were just eating so much and you would just engorge yourself even when you knew you were full, you would keep eating and that was a consistent thing. What do you mean? Yeah. And this is, this is my mom's fault. You know, I'm full and she wants me to still finish the broccoli on my plate type thing. There's that in the back of my head. Like I have to finish my food. And in America, the portion sizes are so huge. It's ridiculous. You should, you should almost never go out to a restaurant and eat the whole meal. You should eat half the meal and then bring the other half home really all right unless you're intermittent fasting maybe right and you need all the calories within a short period of time yeah so and then the problem is with your blood sugar if your body gets used to running on sugar

and then you don't have sugar it's like you constantly need to be putting in sugar you crash so that's why it's just like a drug sugar is just like a drug in so many ways yeah so i i i would at night time especially this is why i know it's an addiction because like the plight like you're chasing the pleasure of it the pleasure of eating but like you eat a cookie you say you tell yourself you're going to eat one cookie and that's your treat and that's going to bring you pleasure, but it doesn't really bring you pleasure. It just makes you want another cookie and then another cookie. And you don't, you never really scratch that itch. And that's what would happen to me every night. And now I don't have those cravings the same.

I still need to eat carbs at night because for some reason I think, I think it increases serotonin and it helps me sleep, but it's not like an addiction before. And I don't, and chocolate was my my weakness i would eat a lot of chocolate every night and now like chocolate isn't that appealing hot chocolate and stuff like that is but like chewing the chocolate it's like the sugar almost tastes toxic on my tongue you know the experience like you don't realize how sweet and how much sugar sweet after you don't have it for a while yes so that's where i'm at still right now. And it's wonderful because now I can diet.

Now I can intermittent fast without the addiction, like diet and fitness becomes so much easier. Yeah. Sometimes I think people are trying to fill in some holes that they have in their life and they're trying to seek pleasure, you know, in places that you're never going to really get fulfilled from. You think that they're going to, you think, in places that you're never going to really get fulfilled from. You think that they're going to you think it's going to be fulfilling. It seems like a great idea to go into the cupboard and smash whatever cereals in there or whatever. But in the end, it almost always makes you feel worse, especially if you had goals to be in better shape.

And you're like, why did I do that? I shouldn't do that. And you're beating yourself up over it. So you've done the keto carnivore for so long now. So you don't have any sugar addiction and you must be very sensitive to sweet now, right? Every day is still hard for me from a food perspective in some degree. A little extra challenging here and there just because, you know, this sweet tooth of mine was developed at a very, very young age. So I have to like, I have to fight my food a little bit almost every day, but the choice to not eat,

like to not, to just not have a decision to make at all and just say, I'm not eating for this amount of time. That has been the single most helpful thing to me personally, because if I'm left to make decisions, then I'm going to probably make the wrong ones. Or even just sometimes when I go to eat, it's like an amplifier and I'm like, okay, now it's time to eat. And I want to keep eating and keep eating. I'll also, I have, I've also noticed through fasting some interesting cues. If I, if I fill myself up with food, that's great. I get, get myself to a point where I'm no longer hungry. That's a good spot to be in almost to a point

where, yeah, it'd be uncomfortable if I try to like go on a run or something, you know, after I eat. But if I really truly stuff myself, which I actually really love to do, that's a cue for me to continue to eat even more. And that's when my mind starts to go haywire. And that's a cue for me to continue to eat even more and that's when my mind starts to go haywire and that's when i find myself um making bad decisions with my food so i have to be you know i'm i gotta treat myself uh i gotta treat myself like a gremlin every single day i need lots of fucking rules otherwise bad shit's gonna happen that rule about uh that you talked on your last podcast about um not eating out only eating at home i think the guy the guy on your podcast said oh that's a good one because that's when you get in trouble is when you eat out you cannot

control and you eat too much and the portions are too big and the food is addicting and uh once you start you can't stop yeah you know just setting. And wow, you save a lot of money. Oh my gosh, I went to sushi the other night here when I first got here and it was $50. Okay, maybe it doesn't sound like a lot to you guys, but for me, $50 for dinner. I mean, I would go to the sushi cart and I'd spend like $3.

If 50 bucks on your own is a lot. Yeah, well, it's two people still, but yeah yeah i mean compare like 50 dollars to would have been for something that was equally satisfying let's say seven dollars for the same thing in thailand you know yeah i have a second wave but i want to kind of also yeah i'm sweating over here um dude you're totally right about the palate change because like when when when i started doing fasting too, I noticed that when I didn't have that for a while, when I came back to having a lot of those foods, not like I don't

eat Ben and Jerry's every now and then, but it's just literally too sweet. Like, it's just like, it's too much. Right. Um, it's a very big difference. Okay. I'll see you guys in a few. All right. Have fun.

Poor guy's got a poop. Second wave. Oh. And then somebody commented, they're like, dude, you guys totally missed it the third turd like oh that makes sense we're just talking anyways we're children sorry yeah but um so now that you've implemented fasting seems like you're making some changes you had said it's almost like you're it's been a like a different chapter after feeling like you were gonna to die after getting the flu. So like, what's that been like?

Like, what's it like being, I think you said, like Tony huge 2.0 now? I think I feel happy all the time. You know, you can't necessarily see whether someone's happy or from the outside or stressed and all that. But I can tell you like inside internally, I feel so peaceful and so happy now and so much gratitude, uh, appreciate for being alive and all that stuff. But I think mainly it was sort of like a psychedelic experience, sort of like when you do a mushrooms type thing, which is like a reset. And I think, uh, I lowered my expectations of myself so much during this process because I thought, oh, wow, I could die or have permanent damage from this. And when I came out of it, I was like, okay, now nobody,

now, like even my staff and people I work with, like their expectations of me also dropped. And I felt this relief of pressure on myself. And like I have a lot of past trauma from being a lawyer and all these other businesses that I had and just a lot of work. I just take a lot on my plate, which results in more trauma and stress and things that happen. And that kind of all floated away for the first time. Other than when I do mushrooms, it was very similar sort of a mushroom reset, I would say. So if someone didn't, if you want to have a nice reset from trauma, you know, near-death experiences or mushroom resets are a couple of different ways to approach it. So yeah, now I feel just gratitude for every little thing. Actually, I was really

feeling negative about America a lot. You know, it was really good to escape. But afterwards, I just started feeling gratitude and looking forward to all the things in America more. Like, a lot less negativity. I mean, I still care a lot about America and I'm politically outspoken about freedom and all this kind of stuff, and I still fight for freedom.

But also just able to accept things the way they are and appreciate what I should be grateful for at the same time. You seem to be pretty calm. You seem to be pretty positive. Do you, uh, do you get mad even? Uh, this is funny. You know, actually this is a big compliment from Joe aesthetics. Actually. He said, you know, the, what he said, what I want to learn from you, he loves learning the chemistry and stuff for me, but what I want to learn most is how do you stay so calm? And I, and I said, so what, what example, like, what makes you think about that? Like, why do you think, I mean, you haven't seen me in real pressure. I mean, the truth is like

serious, extreme pressure, like my businesses get raided by the police and, you know, everything gets taken and I lose millions of dollars in one day. You know, that's some serious stress. A lot of things have been through push people to suicide and stuff like that. But I still remain very calm and was able to think clearly and problem solve. And I think that's part of it's an accumulation of just dealing with those situations so many times, especially as a lawyer. You know, imagine I have thousands of clients that I've worked for and I take on their problems. So like I've had my problems in my life, plus all my clients problems for all those years that and I internalize their problems.

And so it's just like problems just don't seem like problems. They just seem like puzzles to solve, I guess. And I think of everything like a game. That's what it is. Anytime something bad happens or a challenge happens, I have sort of two perspectives. One, it's a game. I just got to solve the problem and then it'll be wonderful when I do. And the other one is, well, actually, I think of all of life as a game.

It's sort of like imagine sometimes this is how I think about it. Like we're aliens that are in a virtual reality simulation that we paid a lot of money to have this a human experience and we're all gonna die and go back you know and then that the game's over but it's just a game right um but that doesn't mean i don't take it not don't take it serious i want to win the game i want it's like yeah tony what do you think about this part when we inserted those police officers and they raided your business what do you think what do you think of that part you'd be like oh you guys got me on that one. I was really stressed on that one.

That's when the simulation got too serious. Yeah. Yeah. So Joe used the example of when another friend, Conrad, Fat Guys Who Lift, was in Thailand. Fat Guys Who Lift? That was his name. He was an influencer, but he closed everything down. He'll restart it again in the future.

I think he lifted here. Yes, exactly. Yeah, he's a good personality. He'll come down and visit, restart it again in the future. I think he lifted here. Yes, exactly. Yeah, good personality. He'll come down and visit, too, when I come back. He spilled hot oil on me at a barbecue buffet. And actually, I still have scars on me from it. On purpose? Blisters and everything. No, he put the butter in, and then he put the meat on, and he kind of threw it on, and it splashed the oil on me.

So it burned holes in my clothing, and I had scars and all this stuff. But I stayed completely calm. I had no emotional reaction whatsoever. And Joe was like, I remember him looking at me at the time, everybody at the table looking at me like, how can you not be mad or overreact or go to the bathroom or take a moment? Just totally cool. Right. Cause I, yeah, I just didn't, it was, it's a stoic, like I don't see the benefit of getting upset basically. So why get upset?

It's not emotional control. I think you've talked about this before, but like, I think you, uh, and we mentioned on a couple of podcasts, but I just, I do find it fascinating that you learned a lot of this stuff, I think from, uh, drives with your dad. Right. And you guys, he was play like self-help stuff, which a lot of people think a lot of times is silly. But a lot of stuff from Tony Robbins and a lot of these people, there's a lot of merit to some of the things they say.

Yeah, and I think what happens is if you listen to it at a young age, it becomes sort of built into your personality. But if you listen to it later, you have to actually practice it. You have to refresh your memory on it. So yes, I think all of these type of self-help tapes and stuff make a huge difference. But I think when you're older, you can't just listen to it and let it sit in the back of your head.

You actually have to practice these things. Whereas in me, it's kind of built in. And the other the other thing is the buddhist philosophy right worry about things you can change and don't put stress on the things you can't change so those are the different perspectives i come at things from and why i don't get rattled don't worry about either one of them right don't worry about anything yeah i mean the things that you can't control there's there's doesn't appear there's really anything you can do other than not overreact would be helpful so that you're not stressed. And the things you can control, you'll do the best you can with them.

You'll get to them when you can get to them. You'll try to problem solve, like you said, find the pieces of the puzzle and maybe you're not going to find them right away. So these are all psychological tools and perspectives. But there's also the chemistry side. Like you could have your brain chemistry be off and you could be worrying and upset and anxious and stressed all the time for no reason. It doesn't even matter what's going on in your environment. Could be something very small. And there's a lot of people in that situation too that need to fix their brain chemistry. They're stuck or even hormones and stuff like that. Yeah. Hormones exactly like low testosterone. Look at

how many people are depressed from low testosterone and their main doctors still aren't treating them properly with the testosterone. Instead, they're giving them, you know, drugs that are addicting and they have built a tolerance to. And if there's anything we've learned, that's like testosterone help with effort and putting things into action. Because what you were mentioning about the self-help thing, a lot of people will read a lot of these books and there's a lot of amazing things, a lot of amazing practices in a majority of these books. But the big thing is like a lot of people then just don't take action on it. So they get caught in the self-help cycle where they have a big library of self-help books,

but they've never taken action on a single thing that can't come from it. Yeah. So this is a good example of take a modafinil or an Adderall or something like this that gives you not just the focus and increased mental abilities, but also the motivation. And then you feel like you're moving forward fast and you're doing so much stuff. I think my mom said this, a rolling stone doesn't grow moss or something. This is a common saying. Am I saying it right? Yeah, you're saying it right.

You're staying in motion. You're being proactive. Yeah. If you're staying in motion, like you don't get bottlenecked and stifled. You just keep moving forward. And then you're not so worried about all the little stuff that's behind you. Like by the time something hits you, you know you're already going to be moving past that onto the next thing. So you're always moving forward faster than the bad stuff can catch up to you.

But if you're just stagnant, either physically or mentally, or you get depressed or something, like when you feel depressed and it just feels like the weight of the world just keeps stacking and another bad thing happens and another bad thing happens, and the way to get out of it, if you're looking at a visual, you've got to break through it and then keep that momentum and inertia. And then all that bad stuff all of a sudden seems behind you like you're an airplane that took off and the land is getting smaller and smaller. I think of it, I actually think of it like this. If I do even feel a little bit of, like I use tools like this. So the jealousy thing, if I feel jealousy,

I use tools off the top of my head. I can't think of where they are and take too long anyways. But if I also feel like depression or anxiety or things are just going badly, then I have these tools that I just explained also to help break through it. In addition to the chemistry, of course, which I'm more known for. Yeah. When you're in the right frame of mind the chemistry of course which i'm more known for yeah when you're in the right frame of mind and uh a lot of things seem to uh be stacking up against you or these things are there's like big shit going on in your life that maybe you're interpreting as negative when you're in a good mindset all you do is like boom clap your hands together rub them together and be like time to go to work you know if you're not in a positive frame of mind or you, uh, you're already, um, your health is somehow compromised either physically, like what, what happened to you, uh, or even just emotionally or mentally, you're already kind of chipped away

at, you know, you think about your desire to, um, your desire to go train at the end of the day when you already lifted really hard. Like let's, let's just use like a deadlift or something. Let's say you had a really good deadlift session during the deadlift session felt great. You might've been excited coming into the gym for some people. They're excited all week. They're like, that's my deadlift day.

That's going to be sick that you go in and deadlift. And then, you know, 6 PM that night, you know, whenever you're done with your training sessions, like you don't have any desire to do that again. And could you go do that again? Sure, you could. But I think for some people, that is kind of what's going on. They're already beat up from a lot of what's going on in their life. Maybe they don't have a lot of love. Maybe they feel lonely. There's just like so many things that can kind of already have you like at this kind of lower frequency. And then for you to get to up to love and romance and then transcend to helping other people and spirituality and stuff like that, I suppose. Yeah. If you're missing one of the basic necessities, then, you know, trying all this other stuff isn't going to help it. You got to figure

out like what the source is, you know, the food and, and love, I think, and, and friendship and, and support and community connection is one that I think is missing from a lot of people, especially when there's, you know, there's this sort of divide and conquer. Love is huge. You're mentioning jealousy. I mean, I think the kind of like inverse or the other side of jealousy is like you somehow feel unloved because this other person is now getting attention. And that's not true. Yeah. somehow feel unloved because this other person is now getting attention and that's not true yeah so if i like when i share my girlfriend with with ken for example uh one of the ways i get around the jealousy is i'm like you know what if i really love her then i'm gonna love to see her happy like like my her happiness is my happiness yeah yeah god damn and and and and how are you doing happy she's like yep but then imagine then knowing yeah i didn't want you to be that happy and excited

then knowing knowing also what she wants like let's say okay she does tell me and that hurts my feelings that she wants to be with ken but then i know in the back of my head that that's something that she wants that i'm not giving her, then I, then that would actually, I just said yes instantly, but it would kind of eat away at me. Like, you know what? She wants something that would really satisfy her. And I'm not giving it to her because of myself. I'm putting myself in front of her needs and her wants. And I want her to be really fair too, because like these girls treat me this way. They give me anything I want. There's nothing want there's nothing there's almost nothing off limits and that's love to me that i feel the love like they just

their happiness is to see me happy yeah and i'm like wow i need to give this in return like there's a karma thing going on here too like i also need to make these women as happy as they make me she's eating your butt and you're like look at that she does love me i don't need to be jealous of fucking ken probiotics hey you better take those probiotics but hey no that's that's uh that's real deep that's why i mean a lot of people are becoming more uh open with those different types of relationships here in the u.s um and it's good you know if that if that's because i think that not even I think, like, we're all raised within this idea of monogamy or a monogamous relationship, right? And I, like, personally for me, that's the thing I still want.

But, you know, if you're someone who knows that that's something that you want to do, like you want to, you know, be, do that shit, and it's not shit, it's just like, do that stuff, then shoot. Be honest, be open, and do that shit. and it's not shit it's just like do that stuff then shoot be honest be open and do that shit it's good i think it is becoming more accepted oh yeah but when i was younger absolutely not and my parents of course you know my parents are really conservative they've been married a really long time and you know they want me to be married and have children live and all live together with, you know, monogamous. Yeah. And it's taken them a long time to accept who I am.

And they finally are. It's almost like it's almost like when someone's gay and comes out of the closet, like me being this polygamous sort of style or this free love sort of style. Yeah. It was like me coming out of the closet and like they couldn't accept it. You got to just think it's a hard time accept it. You got to just think how different. They gave me such a hard time. Yeah. You got to just think how different it is for them, you know?

Yeah. That's, it's just, it's just because it's different. So it's just not, not, not as easy to deal with. There's spilled coffee all over the place. Yeah. But now they see, now they see it, you know, and now they, they talk to my, both of my baby mamas, they talk to them and they start, they start to understand, you know, that everybody's happy.

So if everybody's happy, what's the problem? Yeah. You know, Tony, when you were mentioning Maslow's hierarchy of needs, it made me think of something because I have a few people that I know that have quite a bit of anxiety, but it's not necessarily anxiety about themselves. It's anxiety about the world. It's anxiety about the things that are going on around the world. Cause like you see so many things on social media, like what just happened in Haiti, what

happened, what's happening in Afghanistan. You see so many things. And so like so many people I know are like, God, this world, blah, blah, blah. And it gets them anxious. But you know, when you look at the hierarchy of needs, if you, if you're not able to deal with these specific things, right. But then now you're worrying about the world at large, that doesn't serve you. You know what I mean? So it makes me wonder just like, I mean, how, what kind of advice you'd give to individuals in that, in that place? Because if you don't like, right, if you don't have your family set up, if you don't have these things, why are you worrying at the world at large when there's nothing you can

do there? You don't even have your home in order. Yeah. So let's, let's look at this, this spectrum here. Cause this will help, I think help paint a visual picture. Um, on the, on this extreme side of the spectrum, you don't care about anything. And on this other extreme,

you care about everything so much that it's counterproductive. And I had an ex girlfriend who, when she'd watch the news and there was a flood and someone died, she'd be crying for like three hours. Like, and I'm like, you don't even know this person. Why are you so upset?

How is this affecting you so much? Oh, it's just so sad. I'm like, you don't even know this person. Why are you so upset? How is this affecting you so much? Oh, it's just so sad. I'm like, okay, then you need to not watch the news. That's the solution. If you can't emotionally control your reaction to what you're seeing, then you need to not see it. And so this is the type of thing where you get off the social media or you stop watching the news and you just say what information you only have so much time and energy and mental processing power in the day. And you've got to decide what information you're going to put in your head. And I think information about something that's happening, you know, on the other side of the world is not relevant to your life.

OK, if you're going to vote. Yeah. OK. Do the research at that time when it's time to vote for something, or if you can actually do something about something. At the same time, you also need to understand how everything's working in the world so that you can strategize long-term. Like you got to know with this whole virus thing that's happening, what's the world going to be like in five years? So you know, do I buy a house? Do I move money offshore? What kind of business should I be in? What kind of skills should I be developing? So, but you set that time aside. So that's like an Eckhart Tolle sort of idea, which is you're living in the moment most of the time, but you do take time to look at everything and then strategize, but it's mindful. You don't just let the media put stuff in your head and control your emotions. Cause that's the whole point of it. That's what they're trying to do. If they make

you upset, you're easy to control. An emotional human being is easy to control as a as a as a trained dog that's actually a really interesting point that you bring up imagine asking somebody you know during uh this entire pandemic uh what have you done to help your future and i think a lot of people would say i they'd probably go uh i'm not i don't think i i don't know like i've been stressed i've been right it's just reactive versus proactive right they haven't had an opportunity they've been kind of sunken underneath and haven't even uh come up from fresh air to kind of look and see uh what they could be working towards this entire time and the, and the problem is the apathy and, you know,

just being okay with doing nothing has become some of the norm. Like it's okay to just stay home and do nothing now. Right. Whereas it used to be, you'd feel like a loser. Right. So now, but it also gives you an opportunity.

Like, okay, you could say, okay, everybody else is staying home. If you think of like life as a competition, you're competing with people like this is my opportunity where like everybody's kind of not doing anything i could really do something big right now and it'd be even more significant yeah no i mean on that note i do

know some people like i know some people who ended up you know going on unemployment but there's some i know that didn't do anything and there's somebody that used this time that since that getting unemployment was super easy they're not using this time to build something. So there are people that are just taking advantage of the system at hand to get a leg up on, on other things that they're trying to do. But back to what you're mentioning about the news, like to be perfectly honest, if I had my feed filled with a lot of things that like I see on my mom's feed and I seen some of my friends feeds, that shit would affect me too. Like that's, that's literally why I clean that shit up.

So I'm not seeing it because I know if it's something that i need to hear about somebody's gonna tell me they're good at it because they know how to trigger you because they they're analyzing all your personal data and all that and they get me too i go online to look one thing up or to post something and boom i get hit with something and then i get and then i have to be mindful and try to control it but then i realize how many people would be in this situation and not be able to control their emotion. Yeah. And I, you know, I think the other side of this is like, it is good to be empathetic towards things that are going on around the world. It's like, you don't want to see that there was a massive tragedy somewhere else. You don't feel anything. The thing is, is you can't let yourself get so filled with that information that then it

overcomes you. And then you can't take action on the things that are right in front of you. Yeah. And, but if we, but if we waste empathy and emotional energy on something that's not relevant it's taking away from that emotional energy we could be giving to our family or someone friend or something right in front of us that's very true the power of now by the way guys is uh eckhart tolle you mentioned that author the power of now is a very good book um i got a lot from it it's very very useful so you guys should check that out yeah um what is it what are they gonna uh ask you next is uh where in your life have you like maybe made some mistakes that allowed you to understand how much you want to wanted to explore

your own freedom like like um you mentioned some relationships that were hard. Did you get like divorced or did you hit some sort of like, uh, just emotional, like kind of wreckage and be like, you know what? Fuck this man. Like, I don't, whatever this is like, this is, I hate this. Like, I don't like this. I want to figure out something that's the opposite of whatever the hell this is. Yeah. Baby mama trapping me with pregnancy because that was a trap and it was intentional, you know, to lock me down. And and she also she also knew and it broke my trust so much because she also knew how important it was to me at that stage in my legal career not to have a child because I was so focused on work. I couldn't have that kind of distraction. So that was like a betrayal.

And then also like a huge liability. I mean, in the end, a good thing, right? My daughter's great and all that. Now it's fine. Now we're together still and everything. But at the time, yeah, that's what it made me say, whoa, I need to change everything and focus on freedom. Otherwise, I'm going to get more and more buried in liabilities.

And then also when I was here before, I have this big house and all these cars and jet skis and motorcycles and boats. And all of that sounds wonderful and it's fun to use them, but it's always in the back of my mind as a liability. Like I got to maintain these things. I got to worry if they get stolen, broken, whatever. Now I'm here living in a rental house, you know, an Airbnb and driving a Kia rental car. And I am like really happy and I've got no weight on my shoulders. So like my default status is happy. And if I had a bunch of toys and

liabilities and responsibilities on top of it, it doesn't, it's exciting and it's fun as a novel, but it doesn't really add more happiness. Instead, it adds more stress and anxiety and weighs me down. And I'm more of a creative type person, actually, than analytical. And so for me to be creative, I have to not have that weight on my shoulders. It's a distraction from my creativity. for custody my whole life. And I saw like the court system and the liability that my dad faced to my mom. My mom wasn't even asking for much, but my dad made it a thing to go to war for my whole life. So watching that and realizing how much, you know, the government has control over people and marriage and, and then as a lawyer, seeing my clients and being able to see all different types of people and lifestyles and businesses and income and uh yeah i would see a lot of people with huge liability like i think of it like liability versus assets right and i see this massive liabilities and i'm like god that's i don't i don't want to feel trapped i don't want

to feel like I'm not free to do what I want, go where I want to. So those are the, those are all the different factors. And then going to Thailand too, and feeling freedom and being around these other influencers, even now, like Joe aesthetics is just a great example on so many levels. Cause he's like the top of the fitness influencing and, um, and you know, he makes a lot of money, a lot of money, but he spends very little, you know, he lives in a condo that's basically like a one bedroom apartment, you know, and very small and he drives motorbikes and, uh, his clothes are all sponsored and all that kind

of stuff. And his supplements are all sponsored. He doesn't, he just spends money on, on food. And, and, and then I have this other friend, this, this German bodybuilder, and he makes $15,000 a month and he spends $1,500 per month living in Thailand. And it's simple. I mean, it's not – his condo is tiny. He doesn't have any assets whatsoever. He's got nothing other than his money, his income, his savings, but his freedom to do whatever he wants at any moment. And that's just appealing to me.

On the other hand, being back here in America and seeing the nice houses and going to Costco and seeing the big TVs and the furniture like that was my style before. And I like that also. You know, it's it's actually really nice. It depends on the personality type. I think I lean more towards the freedom, but I also understand like building your environment around you to have everything that you want and all the luxuries and being comfortable. So I get that too. And I actually appreciate that more.

I just, if I was going to go back to that, I'd be just really careful to not obligate myself to anything that's going to wear me, you know, be in the back of my mind is like a stress or something. I'd go low maintenance on everything. If I need a car, it'd be a low maintenance car. If I'm going to get a house, it's going to be a house that doesn't require a lot of mental energy, that type of thing. Marriage itself, I think, can be a huge liability. And you've probably seen that firsthand, especially being an attorney. I find some of the points that you're bringing up here really interesting about your parents getting divorced and the stuff that you saw when you were young. It just kind of makes me think like you were smart enough to recognize what was the kind of root of all this like angst that was in your family's life was like if if the idea of getting married and it being a like

law-binding thing through the government or state or however you say it and then also sometimes through religion like if that just wasn't there if your parents were instead like hey we're together and then for whatever reason it didn't work they would fight and yell and go back and forth a little bit, but then that would be that. And there would be a lot less of that. Like, Oh, okay. You're choosing to go a different route. Okay. You're choosing to go different route. Okay. You know, go fuck yourself or whatever, whatever the conversation is or whether it's, Hey, you know, have a good one or whatever. Um, I think it's just interesting, you know, it's just a different way of interpreting, uh, how people should maybe be together. Yeah. You know, it's just a different way of interpreting how people should maybe be together.

Yeah. You know, I think it's good that people, you know, you just get married to someone out of high school or something. That works for a lot of people. But a lot of people also really get trapped like that because you're change over time. So now you've signed like a long term contract and you don't even know how the contract is going to go. You can't predict because you're dealing with another person and people's personality changes. They develop different. Their interests change and all that. So, yeah, being married is a huge limitation on freedom. Can be a really wonderful thing, but getting into it and realizing the significance of the document that you sign, you know, as a lawyer, as I get to see how significant that is and how it changes everybody's life again for better or for worse. But to make that decision, I think people should have more information. They should understand what the contract means more because nobody. OK, can lawyer Tony come out and tell us maybe like what people should be paying attention to when they sign a marriage document and also

maybe if they should think about getting prenups and how powerful prenups could be. Could you explain some of this? Yeah, I would just like to interrupt just for a second. And I would say that I don't think anyone should actually get married under those circumstances. I think that, you know, exchanging wedding vows and telling someone, hey, we're getting married and all that long. That sounds great. And saying, hey, I'm just devoting the next however long I think we can hang together

for to you. But other than that, just, you know, as I've gotten older, I'm like, this actually doesn't make any sense. What the hell did I what the hell did I do? I obviously don't regret any of it, but it is an interesting thing. It's like, oh, my God, like the government and our banks and some of these things tried to smush us together as one person. And we're fucking not. We're individual people and we need individual time we need our own space we need our own hobbies we need our own things like we're not one we're just not we're we're unified in the sense that we have uh goals together as a couple and as a family those things for sure and those things are wonderful those things are great but to try to pretend that we're one person on a sheet of paper is fucking ludicrous in my opinion

yeah so what so the reason i like also being with different women is i get to be a little bit different person with different women like i'm a different person so i have to think i'm going to answer your question very directly but i'm i've got to give a foundation here uh i i need it i think it's best that someone experiences many different people so they can also experience their many dimensions of their personality oh shit and you might find you might see a girl that is very attractive and you think you get along and all that and and who are you but who you become in that relationship and then if you try different relationships you might find like um what you thought on the surface was going to be the best for you isn't because it's not the best for your your personal development and who you

want to be so i like the variety that's why i like to see many women because each one i can be a different person and it's it's not like it's like a different person. And it's, it's not like, it's like acting sort of, right. But it's real. It's like, I get to, with some girls, I get to be intellectual with other girls. I get to be playful, you know, um, to, cause you, you know, you're going to be whatever makes that relationship and that style the best. So I think it's good when people go to college and they, you know, they're a little bit promiscuous. I think in the United the united states that's the style it's not like that in every country it's very different every country is very different but in the u.s it's like people are usually promiscuous and they're in in college and right after college and they settle down a little bit later and that's probably a good thing right so for for my friends for my closer friends what i tell them is hey before you get married

just come to thailand and just see a different culture. Yeah, rampage if you want, whatever. But just see how relationships can be different and just that way you can decide, make an educated decision. Because when you're deciding for marriage in America, you're deciding against that lifestyle. That's a helpful perspective. Okay, so the marriage contract. When you sign a marriage document, right, it's a piece of paper. But what you're actually doing is you're signing a contract of all which is obligating you to an entire room full of uh legal obligations that takes a lawyer to even understand and even then you don't know what's going to happen until you go in front of a judge so like that that's a big risk like if you're

someone who doesn't like risk and you like to be able to plan and know how things are going to turn out, then, you know, prenup, of course, right. But prenups aren't always bulletproof and they don't protect you from everything and they can, and anybody can sue anybody for anything. But I think that a prenup is really important because a prenup is a contract that you're actually going to read and you're actually going to agree on. So there's two options. Do you agree on a whole room full of government documents that you're never going to read and understand by signing the one piece of paper? Or are you going to take the time to sign a one page that they're um or or they think it's

easier um to just sign the marriage contract the the state government document than it is to make their own contract but making their own contract is something they can understand something simple something they can plan for so i still be very easy for someone to get to your money though, if that's ultimately what, where your thoughts are. Right. Because like, Oh, in our time together.

Yeah. You thought of this idea and you know, and we got kids together and stuff like that. I mean, the court is going to make a, that's going to, that's a quick, easy decision for them to be like,

yeah, you know, you, you deserve, you do deserve half or whatever. Right. And it's the length of the marriage too. So, you know, after 10 years, every state's different, but just generally,

like if you've been married for 10 years, then whoever's making the money is going to have to support the other person for the rest of their lives, no matter what happens. I'll hear about Brittany Renner. Brittany Renner is this woman bundle of Brittany. You can look her up on Instagram. But this woman has made videos in the past because she's like one of these IG baddies. That's what they are, right?

And she made these videos in the past. Like, if you want to, you know, if you want to get a basketball player, this is what you do. Like, she made a video like, you know, I mean, this is what you do. This is how you're supposed to do it. This is how you go about it. She made instructionals. is how you're supposed to do it this is how you go about it she made instructionals well she goes and she uh dates this 19 year old guy who's on and i forget i forget which nba team he was on right and you can look this up andrew because this this shit was going wild but she is this her

yeah that's her that's her she got pregnant by this dude and then literally um right after i think they they got married right after the pregnancy or whatever, she got divorced and she made him sign a contract that would have him paying 200k a month for 18 years. Because she knew what she did. She's been open about it, right? But this is like this 29, 30

year old girl, he's like 19 or whatever, but like, yo, not that everyone has NBA money, but men, women women be careful out here these streets aren't safe yeah yeah i'm gonna be careful when i'm here in america yeah that's amazing big risk that's a great idea to write a book about it that's hilarious i was thinking about writing a book as a lawyer i i saw how people were exploiting government benefits. And I was thinking about writing a book, you know, and I'm libertarian, or I guess you could say, I think the minimum, the less government, the better. So I don't like the idea of any government benefits for the most part.

But I see my clients exploiting government benefits and I'm like, you know what? Instead of trying to fight against this and tell people I think this is wrong, I think let's go the other way. Let's make a book where I teach people how to exploit the government benefits to the point where the government becomes so bankrupt over it they've got to address the problem. Like let's get everybody on government benefits. Let's just make it such a big thing. Let's go to this book out there and then go on Fox News or something and talk about how I wrote this book. And everybody will be outraged about it. But a ton of people will use it and cost the government so much money that we'll have to reevaluate the whole system. Did you get a chance to see the Caitlyn Jenner documentary?

No. It's good. It's really good. Yeah, it's really cool. I think you'd like it. You are aware of Bruce Jenner and Bruce Jenner being an Olympic decathlete and a gold medalist and all that, right? Yeah. Have you ever seen pictures or videos of Bruce Jenner?

Maybe, Andrew, maybe you can bring up some. Yeah, the old ones, like when he was um from the olympics and stuff like that he's on the weedies box or something yeah what do you think natty or not uh right now or back then yeah back then oh um i don't know i mean back then in the olympics i think you could still get away with a lot. It was a long-ass time ago. Yeah. He just – Bruce Jenner made some crazy changes and transformation from one Olympics to another. Could have been through lifting. Because back then, not a lot of athletes even lifted or even knew the benefits of lifting. So it's possible uh that you know um maybe he wasn't lifting maybe he wasn't on it was unaware uh but in this documentary as they go through

showing you bruce jenner's career um you just start to see like the metamorphosis going on and the shoulders and shit like that and you're like i don't know interesting man had to help an upper chest shoulder region yeah at versus all the other guys like he was just like hurt you know like damn it was definitely more jack than everybody else yeah yeah but it's a great documentary guys like you you should check it out it was uh it was he was a crazy competitor worked super hard for a long time for that. Paul Volz. And is he going to run for politics? It seemed like it was going that way.

I think, yeah, Caitlyn Jenner is running for governor, yeah. Wow. Interesting. Kind of recall Newsom. Right? What's it like going around in this new body, being 40 pounds lighter? Any advantage? I mean, you said you're a lot leaner, so you enjoy that. But anything else?

You feel different or better or worse? Yeah, more energy. It's more comfortable when you're sleeping. What about your ego? Has that been? Yeah, at first I felt, because I was just weak and my lungs were weak and my heart was weak also after the Rona i i felt very vulnerable going out in public i felt normally i feel invincible like there's nobody that could really hurt me physically

because i can defend myself type thing which you know it's not that's not something we should we don't we shouldn't have to be thinking about our safety out in a modern society like this but i do it's an animal instinct maybe so normally i i'm just not even that aware of it because I just feel invincible. But afterwards I felt like, wow, if someone attacked me, they would destroy me. Like I'd be so winded and so weak. And so I felt really vulnerable. I didn't like that feeling. I think that, but that's part of function of the loss of the body weight, just the difference.

And then that's also part just because I was in bad condition until i got my cardio capacity up and all that but everybody tells me every person tells me they like the way i look now better than when i was bigger you look good so you look great a lot of positive reinforcement for this type of physique which is actually more natural for me and much healthier for me but at the same time like i'm dr tony huge you know oh you know the one person the one person that said no i need to get bigger is uh our india distributor who's uh i'm awesome and a really important part of the companies that i that i do and he said i need you huge by october 27th in dubai i can't i can't have you be in this shredded thing for that. I'm not technically obligated

to do it, but I'm kind of like, okay, I get it. Because it's an India and a Middle East. They're already shredded, right? So they want to see big. So, okay, fine. I can get big. I can get big so fast. Growth hormone, insulin, IGF, SARMs, gear, short blast,

a lot of food. Like, insulin, IGF, SARMs gear, short blast, a lot of food. Beep, beep, beep. Good breath. Like, dude, you look so healthy. This is a healthier weight for you. You do look big. It's the whole fitness industry big, but you are big. I'm just like, man, if this is your healthy weight, you're already jacked and shredded,

you look this good, why don't fucking keep it? Yeah. Well, I definitely want to keep the abs. We'll see. I'm going to grow the muscles a little bit, but I'm going to prioritize the abs. Keep it dry. Keep it shredded. Yeah.

Are you still trying to get bigger for Olympia? Because I know we were talking earlier, you got a shit ton of athletes that are competing. I think I'll put on 10 pounds for Olympia and then I'm okay. When's the Olympia? October 7th, roughly. Around there. for Olympia, and then I'm okay. When's the Olympia?

October 7th, roughly, around there. And then I'll go to Florida earlier and hang out with everybody and stay a little bit later in Florida and get a lot of cool content. I'll meet up with Big Lenny and PJ Braun and Boston Lloyd and Dave Palumbo, all these guys. Who do you think is going to win? Well, Ramy's my guy, of course, right? So, I mean, we're sponsoring Ramey and seven other Olympians, actually. I don't have the list of everybody here.

Chris Bumstead is competing, right? I don't know. I didn't. In the actual Olympia. In bodybuilding or classic? I think in regular bodybuilding. Really? Oh, wow.

Yeah, that's going to be sick. I think that's, I don't know if you've seen like his instagram and stuff but like he's like pulling 675 for reps he's squatting six but he's like you know he just he just as big as the fucking guy is it's ridiculous to say but he like recognizes he needs to get bigger if there is such a thing i mean he's already fucking enormous yeah um he moves really well like he seems like an amazing athlete i think he was a soccer player in the past ah no that's something going on yeah so of course we're rooting for ramey because he's our guy he's our sponsored um athlete and he's gonna ramey's coming over to train with dennis james pretty soon here, preparing for the Olympia. Chris Bumps, that's a freak, dude.

Have you seen Rami train before? Have you had an opportunity to work out with him or anything like that? I was at Oxygen Gym with him three years ago. It's just ridiculous, right, how big the guy is? Yeah, yeah. So wide. Like the shoulders, that's the most amazing thing. These shoulders just cap out.

They just like shelves. Yeah, huge. wide like the shoulders that's the most amazing thing these shoulders just cap out like they just like shelves you know yeah huge and legs huge too yeah how did you guys uh how were you able to you know get in contact with him and and and end up having this relationship with him so i i've known ramey and ramey's known me and And actually, I was in Ramey's booth two years ago. Honestly, what the fuck? Right? But I didn't negotiate any of this business, any of the business with Ramey and his crew. That was all the enhanced CEO.

And a little bit of Coach Trevor, actually, behind the scenes was involved. Somebody was asking about Coach Trevor. Like, how's he doing? What's he up to? I'll meet up with Coach Trevor actually behind the scenes was involved. Somebody was asking about Coach Trevor. How's he doing? What's he up to? I'll meet up with Coach Trevor, yeah. I'll go to Los Angeles and Vegas, then I'll come back to Sacramento, and then I'll meet up with Coach Trevor. You know what's so wild to me?

When you look at Ramey when he started the whole bodybuilding thing, just the fact that he was able to pack on so much size is ridiculous like just the the ability for his body to have done that is just so crazy to me because like before he never looked like he looked he was big but it wasn't like big big big you know it's crazy yeah how many different products you guys make now oh maybe probably like kind of a there's like 15 or something, something like that. So always adding some one product every once in a while or a flavor or changing a flavor, always something changing. What are some of your favorites that you guys have? The new Dennis James EAA is one of the best tasting supplements I've had. I mean, which is surprising for an EAA because essential amino acids and branched amino acids taste terrible.

They're so bitter. It's really hard to flavor it. So I'm not the expert on the flavoring. Canadian chemist Trevor, Canadian Trevor Curritzen, he's the one who worked on that also. And Dennis James with the flavoring also. And I didn't taste taste until after it was in production and then when i had it i was like oh my god i drink it three times a day right now because instead of drinking juice so instead of drinking juice or soda i'm drinking the eaa

because it tastes good do you guys still have the sleep juice yeah sleep juice i think to me it's a little sweet tasting you know sweet tea is the flavor. But the thing about these, it's such a good product. The sleep juice is so good for sleep and sleep quality. What's in the sleep juice? There's like 12 different ingredients, like herbs, of course, melatonin, as always, everything has that for sleep, but just a lot of herbs like rhodiola and like ashwagandha. So a lot of cortisol lowering and anxiety lowering supplements so that you can relax at night and get deeper sleep.

So it helps you fall asleep faster, helps you get deeper sleep, helps you stay asleep, but also mild, nothing addicting. And then, you know, it is an herbal basic supplement. So like you take a whole scoop of it. That's why it can't be in capsules. It'd be too many capsules. Plus you don't want to take capsules right before you go to sleep anyways. And then usually two scoops is even much better.

And not just for sleep, even just in the evening to relax, to wind down is nice too. I'll take that with a raspberry element. It's, it tastes way too good. Like it's really freaking good. But yeah, I have to get some more because I've been babying it. I'll just do it a little bit just to get through the rest of the week or whatever. But no, that stuff's really great.

Actually, yeah, we were talking, Andrew, talking about anxiety stuff. You can actually take sleep juice in the daytime as an anti-anxiety or cortisol lowering too. It's not going to make you fall asleep unless you want to fall asleep because it's not like a sleeping drug. Where do you sell to the most?

Do you sell a lot like mainly in the United States or is it? Middle East. Yeah. By far. Once Ramey came on board, I mean every supplement shop in the Middle East made wholesale orders. It was crazy. So I'm sure you had to pay him a good amount. Has that worked out well?

Yeah, it's extremely expensive right um and and dennis james also you know um but it it works it pay for it pays for itself because of the middle east as far as america surprisingly sales didn't go up at all with ramey in america but the middle east came on board and then India, it made a difference. So internationally it was, Ramy was huge. It's interesting. Not as much in America. Yeah.

Since we're talking about supplements and this is probably going to be on the minds of people, sex cocktail. We may have spoken about this before, but is there anything that you, you know, you think is beneficial for people to be taking in that realm? So what I,

when I'm Trump, when I want to Ram ram palm pretty much every day what i take is uh viagra of course right sildenafil is the generic name for it so we'll say sildenafil so you don't think that is there any long-term drawbacks of that like or it's just it just there's some potential long-term vision side effects if you were on it all the time at a high dosage yeah but as long as you give side effects if you were on it all the time at a high dosage. Yeah. But as long as you give yourself breaks, if you take it once a day, you're only on it for like seven hours.

Yeah. So then you're getting a break once a day if you take it. If you take it once a day, you're getting a break the other part of the day. It's not a problem. Taking it three times a day every day would be too much. But then Cialis is more mild, and you can take that every day longterm and you can take both together. Actually,

you know, you know, I, I lab test products. This is really funny. I lab test products all the time for my own company and other companies and stuff. And there's these pills in Thailand that are herbal and I lab tested them

and it came out to be 80 milligrams of Viagra and 20 15 milligrams of cialis per tablet is that a lot yeah it's like a full dosage of each like like a high dosage of each and this is supposed to be more like a supplement is what they're trying to tell you that oh the label just has herbs names on it yeah but you take it you take it and you're like, whoa, this works really good. Damn, these kale shakes work. Holy shit. Yeah. A little spiking going on there.

Yeah. So the combination of Cialis and Viagra or Sildenafil and Tadalafil actually works pretty good too. But just like I deal with building muscle or burning fat, everything I think about pathways. So I think about sexuality. I think, okay, we got the brain. We got the blood flow, we got libido and excitement. So you want to look at limiting factors also like testosterone, want to make sure your testosterone levels are good and your estrogen, because a lot of bodybuilders drop their estrogen too low, they lose their sex drive. And then the blood flow, which is pre-workouts actually with the arginine and citrulline and all these types of things also work along the similar pathway as Viagra and

Cialis. So there are natural products that increase blood flow. But what's most exciting to me is PT-141 because that's a peptide. And that gives me that feeling because as i get older sometimes i'm just like god i wish i could be as horny as i was when i was younger like like when i was younger i was so horny and i had no girl to do it with right torture yeah and like now i have all these girls but i'm not near as horny as i was back then. If I could just have both together, mwahaha. So that's what PT-141 does. And there's other pathways you can use too, but PT-141 is just so easy and there's no side effects. There's no side effects?

I've not heard of any. Yeah, I've never heard of anybody. Okay, some instant side effect is a little bit of nausea, which I drink chamomile tea with it nausea gone okay how easy is that okay right wow yeah so chamomile tea and melanin melanin is the same melanin and pt-141 do the same thing sexually but melanin makes you tan and pt-141 doesn't i saw this uh this thumbnail of this white girl that took some melanin apparently a few months later she was like she did not look like the same ethnicity she looked black um it must be recent i don't know if it was uh from derrick if it's one of his new thumbnails or something but somebody made something about melanin that's hilarious so a lot of my friends in thailand are on melanin

yeah they get like they're really normally european very white but they've got this really dark tan i mean some of them take it to really extreme they're really normally European, very white, but they've got this really dark tan. I mean, some of them take it to really extreme. They're so dark. So I remember this is going to be fun. But when I was doing Starmageddon and I was taking blue ox, somebody in the comment section was talking about like, dude, be careful if you take that because it's going to raise the volume of your load is going to go up. Yeah, that just sounds like a sexual thing. ox like well it is the black one black ox black black black ox is there any truth to that like can you actually like increase increase the volume of your load. That sounds dope. With Clomid, right? Yeah, Clomid, Lecithin,

Zinc. Get out your raincoat. Umbrella. And Pidgeum extract. P-Y-G-U-M. Sounds like a Pokemon. I was going to say it sounds like Pidgey. Pidgeotto, Pidgeot.

That's what I'm taking right now. Sick. I'm Taking right now Sick I'm working on that As a supplement? No for myself personally I'm taking all of those things to increase load Those aren't all orals Yeah

Those are all orals Imagine like especially if you're gonna In my situation in Thailand Most of those things you just mentioned are not pharmaceutical. Yeah. This is all just regular supplements. Just herbs, yeah. Yeah.

Zinc and lecithin. And I mean, there are things you, some of these things you want to take anyway. Let's repeat. Zinc. Clomid is the prescription one, but that's available as a research chemical also. Yeah. So zinc, lecithin, clomid. We got to stay away from the clomid.

What else? Pygium. Pygium. P-I-G-E. The nattycithin, clomid. We got to stay away from the clomid. What else? Pygium. Pygium. P-I-G-E. The natty professor. Well, these are supplements. I have to stay away from the clomid. Supplements only.

Yeah. Supps only. Yeah. And there's other. Oh, I use HCG and HMG too because my balls shrink because I'm on TRT and take steroids and SARMs. shrink because I'm on TRT and take steroids and SARMs. And I find it's sex more pleasurable if my balls are bigger and also I can make bigger loads.

So I use HMG and HCG also. But that's also not natural. That's also research chemical stuff. Yeah. And then back to the libido and sex protocol. So yes, blue ox and black ox are part of it. And then cabergoline. What is this?

That lowers prolactin and it lowers your refractory time. So you can have sex more often and it makes it more pleasurable. That's a pharmaceutical. Yeah. Yeah. But, but it's one, but it doesn't have any side effects.

It just, it just increases dopamine a little bit and lowers prolactin. What is it called? Cabergoline. Yeah. It's a Parkinson's medication. Oh, wow. You can get them off some of the research sites.

Like, so they're not, it's not like a steroid, you know, it doesn't. So, yeah. So, I mean, like the cabergoline, the PT-141, the sildenafil, the tadalafil, I'm using all Swiss chems. So that's, it's like what does swiss chems mean swiss chems is like research chemicals oh okay yeah and then some of these things are available over the counter in thailand too but the thing is they're even more expensive over the counter than they are on the website so i still get them from the website reminds me when i went to uh i went on a cruise to mexico uh we made a stop and we were passing by this pharmacy

and this pharmacist lady was at the front. She's like, steroids? Steroids? And she was pointing at me. I was like, steroids? I'm like, I'm good. I'll keep walking. She's like, not natty. It was hella funny. She just looked at me and yelled steroids.

Must have bought them somewhere else already. That was great. I love the freedom of other countries being able to buy pharmaceuticals. What's your anxiety sheet that you got over here? A lot of people have issues with anxiety and stress and stuff, and you got a whole rap sheet on maybe what to do about it. Specifically, I said, is there anything – because Andrew and I were talking, and I was like like is there anything that you want to know about and he said anxiety so i said okay i have i have all these protocols in my phone and i never really consolidate my notes i mean i'm starting to and then i put the protocols in the inner circle and to my telegram group i have a free telegram group that's

uncensored which i really can talk uncensored on. It's pretty awesome. Cool. And then how do people sign up for that? How can they find out more about that? I think the easiest way is if you type in Tony Huge Link Tree on Google, because that has a lot of links to a lot of the things I talk about. And one of those, you can just click on the Telegram group and automatically it will launch your Telegram app. Yeah. And boom, you're in the group. It's so easy. You just click the button.

I'll put links to your Instagram, your new instagram because the other one got deleted your relationship page and this telegram i'll put them all into the description i need to get i had 150 000 followers on instagram and it just got deleted a week ago this was another moment where i think most people would have an emotional breakdown. But I literally I was like, oh, here we go again. Time to build another profile. You know, just what can I do about it? No emotional reaction. Like, just just get back to work.

So now I've got only 16000 followers on the new one because I'm just building it. It's kind of a placeholder before. And now I got to try and get those 100000 people back over to the new one. So the new one is tony dot huge yeah and i'm gonna have to be more conservative on it i can't talk about rona as much and i can't the other thing i got flagged for is i i just wanted to i just want to get the information out like these like the protocols i do i just publicly want to give it i um but i can't because if i do they censor it it's like you know what it was that got you banned this past time?

Let's remember to use the word flu. Yeah, yeah. So there's a little bit of the Rona stuff, like giving people dosages, like saying take this, like take vermic, you know. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Take stuff, take stuff. Take the virals and take this dosage.

You can't do that. you know, antivirals and take this dosage. You can't do that. And, um, you know, like my, in my sex mojo protocol, I published my sex protocol, like how much K-Virgo lean to take and how much PT 141 to take. And that got flagged. And then polygamy stuff. Really? Like, you know, it's funny if I have two girls just even in bathing suits like these, like these pictures like this, that can get flagged because I think there's a certain type of like woman or something on the other side.

That's the final say in these things. It doesn't like that kind of stuff because you can have girls that are nude showing nipples and all this. I got a lot of nudity on my feed here and compared to my stuff like what's the difference okay there's a man there's two women they're worshiping me that kind of thing maybe that's offensive more offensive to some i think what you're pointing out is probably the key to a lot of the censorship stuff that's going on i would have to say that that like Twitter isn't owned by me. YouTube's not owned by me. You know, we're all like guests inside these homes of these things that are called social

media. So if you got to take your fucking shoes off to get into my house, then that's the way it is. You know, I set the rules, right? However, where I told, so I disagree with you in one regard that, um, I think they should be allowed to police these things, whatever way they see fit, because these are private entities. And, uh, I want to be able to run my business the way that I want to be able to run my business. I know that you want to run your business the way that you want to. Um, you don't want to have to have a lot of regulations and stuff like that, but some regulation or some law or something is important because, uh, you know, you don't want people just randomly going through your,

uh, place of business, um, that don't belong there. Right. Like it's, it's your, you know, it's your building, you pay rent there, you have supplies, right? So there's a lot of things where it's like, well, shit, now we got to kind of apply a rule to it. But I agree with what you're saying in that. Why sometimes does this thing get picked off and not this other thing?

Just because someone's like gaining some popularity, just because this person has 100,000 subscribers. But how come the person that has 10,000 is not getting the same or just because of the way it looks as opposed to the way something else looks? And then who the fuck determines that? Yeah, but the tech giants have a monopoly. This is the problem. So if they have a monopoly, now they have a responsibility to make it an open forum, in my opinion. Otherwise, they're filtering all of society. But that's dangerous.

But it's a monopoly on what? It's a monopoly on what it's a monopoly on us trying to be the media which is all new right like why like we're not uh the the media in the past it was all like set up a specific way to like deliver a message deliver the news and it was censored a certain way which you can you i think we can all agree like it was so censored that that probably wasn't good either yeah like it was so censored that that probably wasn't good either. Yeah.

Because it was very like white America, especially through like the 50s, 60s, 70s, and maybe even further, where it was like everyone spoke a very specific way and you thought that that's the way everyone had to be. And if people didn't fit that narrative, they weren't on TV. Usually they weren't part, they weren't part of anything, or they had an exceptionally hard time being able to like break through on a lot of those things. So right now, I think what we're experiencing is, you know, now I'm fucking Tom Brokaw or whatever, and you're, uh, you know, whoever, right. Right. That is popular. That,

that delivers a message every day. And so I don't know if we, I don't know if it makes sense for us to be completely uncensored. What do you think about that? I think we should be completely uncensored. And I think we have to break up monopolies. You know, I'm capitalist and I love freedom and all that. But if there's one thing the government, I think, should do is prevent a business from becoming so powerful that it has like undue influence and it becomes almost a fascist mini government. And with the technology, that's what's happening. The technology is so powerful. It can basically digitally assassinate you, you know, and I've experienced this because I was so censored before I was deplatformed.

I mean, it trickled down to everything electronic, even my bank accounts, even my Tinder account. Like when the tech giants come at you, they, they come at you from so many different angles. And I know, so I know what happens behind the scenes to when people get deplatformed. It's a lot more than just being removed from one or two platforms. Like you saw how connected everything is with Parler, for example. When Parler got taken down, not only did – the app got removed from Apple and it got removed from the Google Store and their hosting, they shut their hosting down. Every angle destroyed. And that's why it's a monopoly because Facebook and Instagram and Twitter and all these other ones, they'll come together to eliminate anybody else from coming in the market. And now they're able to completely control the information.

And that's dangerous, right? That's like having one person in control of the entire food supply, one person being in control of the entire water supply. And maybe to make matters even scarier, they are robots. There's an algorithm. It's not really even humans that's dictating a lot of this. Yeah, what's frustrating is when something gets flagged and you can't even figure out why

and there's no one to talk to and you're like, this just doesn't make any sense, like why this would get flagged. I think it would be hard for anyone to even know why it got flagged, even some representative of that company because they didn't specifically design the software to like be able to block whatever it is that you posted. Yeah. So I say just let all the information out or at least protect – like one thing the government could do is protect smaller businesses from larger businesses attacking and

destroying them that's the problem parlor was on a great trajectory it was growing so fast i even started a parlor channel and the views were starting to go up why exactly did it get banned they say that they the the reasoning the tech giants have is it was promoting uh violence because people were talking about storming the Capitol at that time. Oh, so that's around the period that it was. Which is nothing to do with that. It all has to do with just plainly eliminating competition, not for money. Parler wasn't making any money, you know, but it was eliminating the competition of the control of information you see how dangerous that is so so now now you know that if there's any app or any media that it is part of this system is one under one monopoly

like even fox news it's still under that monopoly you know you feel it's controlled opposition so that's the problem so like once you start censoring it just never it's just going to get worse and worse that's why i think there's no censorship i mean you can still put parental filters for your children you can have an option to filter things on your phone by the way right now you know all your phones are set to automatically filter a lot of stuff but you can actually turn off some of the filters your phone's not just because Instagram's added that filter. Each app has its own filter. Yeah.

Well, even even even the Apple iPhone filters, what apps you can even have on your phone. You mentioned bank accounts. You mind going in a little deeper? You said you kind of know behind the scenes what is happening to people. They're not only getting platformed, but yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And why are they? So from let me get this straight from one platform to people. They're not only getting deplatformed, but yeah, what, yeah, they, yeah. And why are they, so from, let me get this straight from one platform to another, they're

even crossing over into other platforms and they're even crossing over into your personal life. Yes. Yeah. I get the same time, the same time I get deplatformed from Facebook and Instagram and YouTube. Then also my Tinder goes down and my bank accounts get frozen. And it was everything. It permeated everything. I couldn't believe it. I was like, this is so much power and so much control. And how is this all happening at one time? It's almost like it's the same thing that happened to Trump. It's like someone hit a button and he

was eliminated from all these different things it wasn't just like he got eliminated from one platform he got wiped out and it happens every time like uh i can't forget the names of all these other people that's the dangerous part these people that you think have so much influence and you think they'll be legends forever and then they just get digitally assassinated and people forget about them because of the short attention spans and they're getting their brains filled with new information that the system wants you to have so that you forget about all that other information and other people. I can't remember the last time I thought of A. Jones. I don't know.

I don't want to say his name. Yeah, yeah. That's what I was trying to think about. Right? Like, yeah, I haven't seen any of his stuff in a minute because now he has his own website with everything that he does. But you don't really think about him anymore because he's not any of these platforms yeah so of course we're on these people's platforms we have to play by their rules but i think that something really needs to change with the system otherwise how do people how can you have freedom if you don't have

the information to make your own decision if the information is being controlled the input it's like a math equation then the answer to the math equation is going to be whatever they want it to be. You can't do your own math. And that's how they're controlling everybody. And as I see it, like we're all, even myself, I'm being controlled to some extent. I have to be mindful every day about what information is true and accurate and what actually do I want and what's best for me versus what something or the technology or a certain political angle is trying to influence me. Well, platforms like Patreon, you can say whatever you want to say there, right?

No, Patreon is censored also. Really? Mm-hmm. I researched that deeply because everybody was telling me I should go on there. Now there's Rumble? Rumble seems pretty uncensored, but it just doesn't have enough traffic it'll probably take time i mean once it once it gets popular probably censored too i mean the future is blockchain social media from what i understand i'm not the expert on this but yeah

like um like the cryptocurrency type thing like the same technology where it's not centralized where no one person has control over it and and you could have truly uncensored content. But then, of course, what's going to happen? The Apple Store is going to ban access to it as best they can, and Google is going to make it so it's hard to find in a search. But eventually that's how – if people get over to that, then that's how people will gain their humanity and their individualism back again. It's tough with this kind of – this is like a newfound power.

I don't know what people are maybe trying to prevent because the fastest way to get answers is to usually throw a lot of criticism at stuff and to put a lot of information out there. put a lot of information out there, but I also think that maybe people are thinking like in these times, you know, if somebody was to, uh, you know, take this particular medication to help fight off this potential thing that's going around, you know, maybe that could be really dangerous. And the government, I think a lot of times it steps in and, uh, doesn't think that we know best for ourselves. I think that's kind of definitely debatable. But for them to think that they know what's best for us, I think that's even more problematic because who's to say what that is? That's really difficult to pinpoint what that is.

Yeah. So it's a matter of where you believe the power distribution should be. Should the power be with the people and the individual? Or do we need the government, which is people who control the government? You know, the government is a tool for more powerful people to control less powerful people mainly. So like, do we think that the super powerful people

in the world should be able to tell us how to live our lives or what to put in our body or what medicine to use, you know? And, you know, maybe, you know, it's kind of like parents telling children what they should do. You know, if you think about it, our parents should tell a child what to do and not to do up until a certain age, you know. So if you think about it from that perspective, the rest of humanity that's not billionaires

need to be told what to do because they're not competent enough to be productive without it. And the idea behind control and communism too is like people don't have the ability to make their own good decisions for themselves and the community. So the decisions need to be made for them. It's all an interesting point. It's all an interesting point. I mean, if there was no regulations on seatbelts, eventually people would have probably come to their own conclusion on whether they thought a seatbelt was appropriate for them or not. I mean, I think they did at some point, right? Same thing with, like, smoking.

You know, it's like, do we, I mean, a lot of people got very sick and, you know, a lot of people ended up with cancer. And so it's, you know, do we need the regulations? You know, a lot of people ended up with cancer. And so it's, you know, do we need the regulations? It seemed like the regulations may have helped, especially, you know, having people not smoke so close to restaurants and stuff. I think some people that maybe never even got started were just like, the hell with it. I'm not even going to bother. But I think for other people, you know, that were trying to quit, it may have been a little bit of a deterrent in their habits as well. And maybe it it assisted them. But again, I think people would still found what felt right to them and what felt appropriate for them. Yeah. And people should have the right to hurt themselves if they want to. I mean,

it's their body. If they want to smoke, that's I think they should have the right to. As long as they're not smoking in front of someone else that's, you know, secondhand smoke is to a point where it's going to affect someone else's health, then what does it matter? So – oh, but then the problem is if you have government health care and everything else, then is it a burden on the health care system? But then it's going to long hold. The anxiety protocol, that's what we've been building up to. Back there. Yeah.

Okay, let's get it. Poor Andrew. Andrew's waiting for... It's come up like three times now. Wow. Yeah. Can we get back? I feel like it's a tease, like a TV show or something where they keep teasing you.

Oh, they're going to tell you what's going to happen. Andrew has no more fingernails left. It's because you have a monopoly on this protocol. So that's why you're able to treat it this way. Yeah. So here's the way I think about it. I think about it with pathways and I think about it sort of like the myosin hierarchy of needs. Like you got to satisfy the most basic things.

If you have something that's really stressing you out, like it's going to be hard to just use chemistry around it if the problem is still there. be hard to just use chemistry around it if the problem is still there. So I think of the different pathways as lifestyle, diet, exercise, supplements, and medications. And you could add more pathways, but at least by that. I think a big problem is caffeine. I think in a lot of places, but especially America, like, wow, I go in and these energy drinks, 300 milligrams of caffeine, and people hit a couple of these per day. It's OK. I mean, the grand scheme of things, there's a lot worse things. But the problem is I think it is increasing the anxiety and I think there's better alternatives.

So caffeine is kind of like just adrenaline. And, you know, if your goal is to have energy, yeah, OK, a little bit of adrenaline is good, but there's other pathways that are better. If your goal is to have sports performance, yeah, okay, adrenaline is good, but there's other pathways that are better. So like for any purpose that someone's using, or appetite suppressant, there's better appetite suppressants. So caffeine is kind of like a do everything drug, but it's, I think of it like a dirty drug because it has the side effects, it builds tolerance, you have a crash and increases your cortisol and stress response and all that. So if the idea is to get rid of anxiety, then we want to minimize caffeine or other medications that have a side effect of anxiety.

And instead, for whatever goal we were using the caffeine for, use something with less side effects. So for example, green tea is a great alternative because, yes, it's got caffeine, but it also balances it with theanine. So you're a lot more relaxed and it helps you actually be more focused. And instead of being anxious, you have the energy boost and but you can also channel it better. What about just supplementing with theanine? Absolutely. Two hundred milligrams of theanine. Noticeable.

Noticeable difference. Yeah. Yeah. It's actually, I'm surprised that it's not more popular as a supplement. It's an amino acid. It costs almost nothing and you can feel. Helps you metabolize caffeine, right? Something like that.

You know, I'm not exactly sure how. I've been taking it my whole adult life every once in a while, but I'm not sure exactly what pathway, how it works with the neurotransmitters. Yeah, Huberman has that in his sleep protocol, L-theanine. Yeah, as far as I understand it, it just kind of like takes the, I don't want to say the edge, but like sometimes if you take a little bit too much caffeine, you get a little like shaky. L-theanine kind of calms that down without making you like sleepy. Yeah, take the edge off. That's good.

I like when you say sleepy like yeah take the edge off that's good i like i like when you say it like that um so then we're talking about stimulants on the stimulant pathway i like something like modafinil or adderall can be really good in lower dosages ritalin can be really good on lower dosages i don't understand why people take so much then they get then they become more anxious but some of these things you take a little bit and it keeps you focused because part of anxiety too is, okay, if you're focused on one activity and you're a hundred percent in on that activity and you're not distracted, it's, it's actually, it's harder to be anxious. Right.

Anxiety is when like things start building up in the back of your head. So kind of like the rolling rock doesn't gather moss or something. I need to hear you say that sometimes. I don't remember what it is, but I think you're on the right track. Yeah, I'll have to call my mom after this. It's kind of like that. If you're focused on one thing, then all the other things kind of fade away. I think that's important for anxiety.

If you're worried about many different things at once, and I have to practice this myself, I have to think sometimes I feel a little stressed. And I'm like, okay, why am I need to assess why I'm stressed? And I'm like, oh, it's because this girl sent me this message earlier. And then I'm like, why am I still stressed about that? That doesn't even make any sense why I'd be stressed. But the emotional residue from that remains until you acknowledge it. And then when I acknowledge it, I'm like, okay, that's why I'm stressed. I don't need to be stressed about that.

I need to just drop that. And then boom, the anxiety is gone. A rolling stone gathers no moss. Okay. It's so simple. You've been saying it correctly the whole time. Yeah, it's so simple, huh? So you said modafinil.

I mean, I don't think you can just like go get that anymore. So could you substitute that with a certain nootropic that you recommend? I've taken modafinil in the past and I didn't really notice anything, but I wasn't looking for that specific benefit. I was looking for more just like, yeah, I mean, yeah, focus, but not the way you described it just now. Anything in the nootropic category is going to be along the same lines, maybe not as effective. But I'd say the one thing to know about nootropics is they, it's like upgrading your engine, but you still need more fuel in the neurotransmitter that gets depleted

when you use nootropics as choline, which a lot of nootropic stacks all have choline, alpha-GPC, or CDP or citicholine, different versions of it. You don't want i'll have choline alpha gpc or cdp or city choline different versions of it you don't want to take just choline by itself because it's not absorbable so much through the brain get headaches too i think uh you get headaches if you're deficient in choline yeah is that what you're saying yes i couldn't remember if you have too much or too little you get headaches headaches and brain fog whole eggs lots of choline yes so that's how i get it in for my daughters i make sure they eat whole eggs every day because that lots of choline yes so that's how i get it in uh for my daughters i make

sure they eat whole eggs every day because that's a choline source for children too much better for their i mean like ad add children like should be treated with eggs or choline or cdp choline or alpha gpc and magnesium like those two supplements alone would probably fix half of the ADHD problems out there with children. Really? Yeah. So I do the same thing. Also, magnesium. I mean, how simple is that? We're all deficient in magnesium. There's a hundred, there's thousand reasons for your body to take more magnesium. But anxiety is such a huge problem. Even if it was just beneficial for anxiety, take more magnesium. And I don't know whether it's because the food supply has less magnesium or what, but

I can tell you by taking magnesium every day, I feel like I should feel. If I don't take magnesium every day, then I feel anxious. And it's not going to help to take a benzodiazepine and it's not going to help to take a sleeping pill. I'll still have the anxiety coming from the, the, from the magnesium deficiency and different genetics. This is going to be a bigger issue in some people than others because, um, how well your body holds onto minerals is genetic. And I had a genetic test done that said that my body gets rid of magnesium, but it holds zinc. So I'm not supposed to need as much zinc, but I'm supposed to need a lot of magnesium. And I had really bad restless legs growing up, which is kind of like anxiety. It feels like your legs just want to kick.

It's like, oh, it's just, do you get that? Interesting. My wife used to get it a lot. And now that we've actually been having more magnesium because of element electrolytes, like I can't remember the last time she had it. Yeah. Wild. It's a really – it's a common problem. And actually a lot of people don't even realize the problem.

They're just anxious at night or they have a hard time sleeping. And it doesn't have to just be in the legs. You can also just feel like physically tight or just you're physically not relaxed and magnesium helps that a lot. But I have to take magnesium twice a day for sure. I take it in the morning and I notice I'm noticeably more relaxed during the day. I take it at night and I sleep like I don't kick in my sleep as much and I don't wake up with my legs. I mean, when I was a child, it was so bad. I would kick the side of the couch to make my leg go numb. That's how bad it was.

And I didn't know it was a magnesium deficiency. Wow. So a lot of people listening to this is going to be an absolute life game changer for it. Okay. So next would be, so I like, you know, when you feel like the world is on top of you and the rolling rock gets no moss, the Adderall or something that increases dopamine also that makes you feel motivated to do something, helps you break through the anxiety.

That's kind of what we talked about before. And then for the stimulants to replace caffeine, I have an albuterol inhaler. It's kind of nice. It actually makes you have a little bit of the anxiety feeling, but not a negative one. It's kind of like just it gives you an edge, but a good edge. You want to get up and go. Yeah. Yeah.

And then a synephrine is a great replacement for caffeine. It's better at fat burning. It doesn't affect the heart rate so much. Your heart doesn't get flutter. You don't get like, you know, dizzy. Like what happens if you get too much caffeine and all that. And then a salbutamol, which is, I think that's the same as albuterol. It's just albuterol is the inhaler and salbutamol is the pills.

And these are also, that's also similar to clembuterol, but the problem with clembuterol is it's got a long half-life. That's why the side effects are so bad. Your body never gets a break. And that's the other important thing. For anxiety, you have to take a, you have to, you want to go up. I think of it like a pendulum so you swing the pendulum towards energy and and you're doing things and you swing the pendulum

towards sleep and rest parasympathetic and sympathetic systems and if you swing the pendulum more towards energy like you work out really hard you sleep better right that interesting but if you just sit around all day you know maybe your sleep's not going to be that that good. So I think that dynamic lifestyle of you, you like work hard, play hard, but you work hard, rest hard, work hard, play hard, rest hard. And so your rest also impacts how you're going to feel the next day. And so you also want a deep sleep. So you want to make sure you have good deep sleep and you want to make sure that the stimulants you're taking, yes, stimulants I think are fine, but when you're high on the stimulants, you know, embrace that. But then also you have to counter that by equally intense sleep.

Like how many people, like they ride, they go, they swing the pendulum high towards the stimulants and then they pay no attention to the rest and the sleep. That's the secret also to preventing side effects from all this stuff is use the pendulum because that's how the body naturally works. And that's why chronic side effects accumulate with using pharmaceuticals and stuff because you're pushing the pendulum one direction and not letting it swing the other. So the supplements that I take for sleep, I actually just walked through my supplements and looked at what I have here.

THC. Well, should I say? I can say. Yeah, I already did. So I didn't say that. It's legal in California. So let me ask this, because I've heard some people say that THC can make you feel tired, but necessarily actually getting good rest. Do you actually go through all your sleep cycles well, or do you just feel more tired and able to KO? I'd say with alcohol, there's no question.

You sleep, you pass out, but you don't get restful sleep. But with THC, I feel like I get pretty restful sleep. I mean, it's kind of a feel thing. Like how do you feel the next day? Do you feel emotionally balanced? I think it's not good to take it every night for sleep because I think there's probably like, and I'm not, I'm not an expert on this, but listen to this theory and maybe change the way you think about it. So every night you go to sleep, you have different sleep. There's certain benefits that come through sleep and There's certain benefits of each sleep cycle. And some of those you need every night. And some of those you probably benefit from twice a day. Like you take a nap and you get some of the benefits of the sleep that you get at night.

But then when you sleep at night, you get even more benefits. You get those benefits plus even more because you sleep deeper and you go through more sleep phases and you sleep longer. I think it's the same thing if you look over a whole week. So some nights, maybe if you get certain type of sleep and other nights, you get other type of sleep. So I think on the THC, you get a little bit different type of sleep than on other nights. So in THC, I don't dream. I think that's a common thing. People say they don't dream so much on on thc i don't know maybe the audience can weigh in on that i should ask more people but then when you come off the thc you start dreaming again so okay so maybe there's something missing with thc sleep

so don't do it every night and then i started taking methylene blue and that makes me dream so like okay this is giving me a different type of sleep. So maybe some nights I use THC and sometimes I use methylene blue. And if you look at the whole week, I'm getting all different, all types of sleep. What is methylene blue? It's a,

it's, it's a dye. It's used in micro microscopy, like looking at our microscope and things like that. It's used as a coloring and things. And it's,. And it just does something to the mitochondria over the entire body, something really protective. It's really nice.

But it also acts as an SSRI, increases serotonin in the brain when you sleep. So I think maybe it's increased serotonin results in more dreams or something. I don't know, something that's affecting the brain. It's also a neuroprotective compound. Okay. So it's doing something in the brain and it might be as a result of the increase in serotonin that's causing the more dreaming. So there are supplements. So CBD, right?

Ashwagandha, rhodiola. Those are also ingredients in the sleep juice. The natural herbs that lower anxiety and lower cortisol. So the enhanced sleep juice itself has a bunch of these type of things. Phosphatidyl serine, this is what I've been really liking lately. I take it every morning to take the edge off. We keep saying take the edge off, but I take stimulants and nootropics, and I also want to be relaxed.

I don't need the anxiety side of it. So the phosphatidyl serine noticeably balances it along with the magnesium. And chamomile tea, like I mentioned for the PT-141, get rid of the nausea, that's also a relaxing tea, commonly used for nighttime, also good, but why not drink it in the daytime, right? It doesn't necessarily make you sleepy, it just takes the edge off.

And then psilocybin, 75 milligrams to 100 milligrams is a microd is a, is a micro dose. And that's really good at getting rid of anxiety and keeping you focused. And you can also be really creative on it at the same time, which is interesting because usually you got to choose with the nootropics and stuff, whether you're going towards focus or creativity, it's, it's harder to have both, but you actually get focus and creativity

from a low dose psilocybin. And also just doing a mushroom reset every once in a while. Reset. It cleanses the brain of any kind of trauma or, yeah, it lets you think much clearer afterwards. As in a high dose? Yeah. When you say reset? Yeah, once in a while.

Yeah, I call it a reset. Oh, okay. It's almost like it gets rid of your emotional baggage and you're able to kind of focus on the present better going forward. And then on the prescription side, something my audience and guru Amin and a lot of people I talk to recommend. I don't recommend this and I haven't tried it yet, but low dosage opiates also and like tramadol. And we're talking low dosage, not addicting and never, and you don't go up in dosage and it just takes the edge off. And you, and you can say that, okay, that's very unhealthy, but on the other hand, how unhealthy is it to be stressed and anxious all the time?

And when you're anxious, you could make bad decisions. And then those bad decisions cause you other, you're not thinking clearly and you're making decisions out of fear. Then you make bad decisions, which can lead to even more anxiety later. But the alternative, that would be a kratom also, right? And which today I took, I took it before I came here. Chris Bell gave me a bottle of the Mind Bullet liquid. So I took a shot of that. And I told him, I said, I should just say, I haven't taken it for a while.

I should just take half. He said, oh my my god you're toning huge peer pressure yeah peer pressured into it so i took the whole thing so i'm on kratom right now and i feel good um kratom actually net grows natively in thailand too it's like my one of my girlfriends pulls the leaves off the tree and just uh shit send us some yeah well it's i mean you got actually more of it for cheaper here but it grows on the trees there how cool is that that is cool just pull it off and chew on it uh so that the the kratom works on the same receptor as the opioids except for kratom is a lot less addicting so i think that's a valid replacement on that pathway and then i have a prescription for xyrem which is ghb and that's a valid replacement on that pathway. And then I have a prescription for Xyrem, which is GHB, and that's a salty, clear liquid.

And because it's liquid, it can choose the dosage. So yeah, if I want to sleep, I can take a very high dosage. If I just want to take the edge off as an anti-anxiety, I can take a very low dosage. And remember, just like any chemistry, if you're taking a low dosage and you're cycling it and taking breaks and not building a tolerance, there's minimal to no side effects of a lot of chemistry. It's always a problem when you abuse it. And then ADHD medications in general can be really helpful because they make you more focused. And same reason I keep talking about before. But the worst thing, what people take in America mostly is benzodiazepines

like the Xanax and the Klonopin and things like that. And those are addicting. And then when you come off of those, you feel even more anxiety and they decrease mental performance because your brain just works slower. Um, so I think those are okay once in a while, but I think, you know, taking them every day is a, problem. But that's almost like a reset. Like if you need every once in a while to just really relax, I think that's fine to take it every once in a while. It's not like the next day you're going to feel terrible. It takes time to build up a tolerance or withdrawals to it. And then avoiding alcohol, I think is really helpful. And then on the exercise side, well, actually about heart rate, Nebabivalol i take as a beta blocker slows my heart rate down

which also then relaxes you oh which is similar similar idea at botox if i do botox up here and it relaxes my eyebrow muscles that actually relaxes me psychologically as well because you don't realize how much tension you carry and And if your stress causes you tension, then your tension causes you stress. So if you relieve the physical stress, then even if you just go, if you don't do Botox, if you massage your eyebrows or have someone massage these places that build tension. I used to make my kids fall asleep that way and rub their head. Yeah. Pass right out.

Maybe that's why people think i'm high all the time because you're on botox no because my eyebrows are like my always my eyebrows are always here like with you yeah it's like my eyes are always like this so people always are you high like no i i'm not because your eye are your eyes relaxed my eyes are like almost always relaxed like like when i we used to work out the old super training this is before i really ever smoked anything there'd just be this guy steve you'd be like why are you high and see him i'm like dude i'm not fucking high i'm just chill like i get that all the time and it's kind of funny to me but okay so now what happens if you open your eyes as big as you can bigger bigger

that's as big as i can go it looks it looks good but it's not it's not as funny as i thought you know when i tell a k Korean person to do that, it's hilarious. You know when the Koreans open their eyes really big? I gotta look that up. I'm gonna get a video clip of that, actually.

Korean eyes wide open. I had a friend in high school that anytime I needed some entertainment, I'd be like, Robin, open your eyes as big as you can. So on the exercise side, so I just talked about Nibivalol, bringing the heart rate down. That's really, that's one of my favorites. I've just, because also when you get stressed, your heart rate increases.

But if you, and Klonopin does a similar thing for me too. Like you get stressed, but you have no physical response to the stress. It's so easy to handle the stress. It's always like the stress causes a physical response that amplifies the stress. So if you can block that, then you block this sort of self-fulfilling prophecy and paradox. We have the disclaimer before this video, correct? No, we went live, so there was no disclaimer. Okay.

So if you can shoot that disclaimer. I don't know the exact disclaimer. Are you a doctor in SEMA? None of us are doctors. This is purely educational. Entertainment. Entertainment. This is purely entertainment.

I feel like i should wear a disclaimer like i should just walk like on my shirt yeah oh that's another great idea yeah nobody do anything that was said on this podcast yes don't listen to any of us we should probably get the disclaimer before this podcast after we're done oh then i have to take it down i think you might have to do that i used to have a good disclaimer it was like i'm none of this is medical advice or legal advice uh this is for entertainment educational purposes only no ladyboys were harmed in the making of this video bam put that in the front or covered it uh god so next with the exercise obviously you sleep a lot better and you're a lot more relaxed when you exercise. And for me, I think we all have different body types, but for me, I notice, and I don't do this every day, but I should.

If I get up in the morning and I do something physical, I can deal with stress all day so much better. A little bit of cardio in the morning. Something where you get your heart rate up because of physical activity, not because of mental activity. Yeah. Because otherwise, your heart rate up because of physical activity, not because of mental activity. Yeah. Because otherwise your heart rate is just way too responsive to stress later in the day. It's like, you got to burn out, burn out the physical energy first. And also before bed, something physical, which, you know, could be a romantic thing

or, or you could just do like pushups and sit-ups, you know, not, I mean like right before bed, but sometime in the evening. And then also for me as stretching and foam rolling and spinal decompression and if i stretch to where it's painful or i have my girls massage me actually usually and i have them do it really painful so i'll have one using her elbow on my calves or my hamstring because those are really tight spots for me and i'll have have the other one on my neck and in my upper back. Those are like the two points that relax my whole body the most, both at the same time, hard to where it's painful.

And then when they stop, you're relaxed. You know, like you have the more pain or you feel the more you can relax afterwards. That same pendulum idea. And then I got on the side of the bed and stretch like that. So it acts like a foam roller to my back and decompress everything. And then deep breathing always for anxiety. Breathing is, is one of the easiest things you can do.

You can, I mean, you can do so many different breathing exercises. You got a breathing exercise. It seems like something. Yeah. Box box breathing. It's real simple.

You go three seconds in or four seconds in hold for three or four seconds and then do the same amount of seconds out. Yeah. It's really, really simple. And you can do that for like five sets. That's some simple box breathing and you can kind of manipulate it whatever way you'd like, but, and maybe as you get more used to it, you can do more seconds because three seconds is not very long.

So maybe you can do five seconds in five second, hold five seconds out, that type of thing. So the, the breathing itself is relaxing to the body. And then it's also like a meditation because you're focusing on your breathing. So there's double benefits there.

Uh, and then naps for me are really helpful. Like I need a nap every day, even if it's 10 minutes. It's such a good reset, especially if I'm using stimulants too in the morning. Then when I crash, it's a nap and then I can take stimulants again. That's how I can stay on chemistry all day. And you are a test tube. Yeah.

And also like stress in general. Some stress is good, like working out is stress and there's work. So some stress is good and too much is bad. But if you work out harder and you feel more stress, then it's just a matter of swinging the pendulum back and recovering better. And if you feel more emotional stress, then it's just swing the pendulum back to you need to rest and center yourself even more. And that's all. And that's fine for the pendulum to swing. I think maybe some people try to avoid stress altogether completely, and then they just become so sensitive to stress. They can't handle stress. So I think it's better to take on a ton of stress really hard in a shorter period of time and then rest more. Same thing with exercise. You don't exercise for eight hours. You exercise hard and short, and then you're resting the rest of the time. And I think emotionally and psychologically, if we approach it the same way, it would be a lot healthier.

So I love the sauna. I love hot, cold showers. All of these help me relax. So I love the sauna. I love cold, hot, cold showers. All of these help me relax. Obviously, I give this stuff a lot of thought because I'm naturally a very anxious person. So I have to learn all this stuff. So maybe someone less anxious than me doesn't have to do all these things I have to do, but they can borrow one of these things, maybe make a significant difference. Because if, you know, another one is sexual. I just saw one last one there. Sexual,, um, you know, another one is sexual.

I just saw one last one there, sexual, sexual tension, you know, like, um, there's a difference between, I think just having sex and having an orgasm and actually like getting really fulfilled and scratching an itch, you know, and if you can really see, and some of us have some weird sexual fetishes and desires, you know, but I tell you, when I when I fulfill like something weird that I like to do sexually, I feel so much more relaxed for a period of time, like maybe only once a week. Like I get to do my crazy sex stuff once a week and then afterwards I'm like, oh, and I don't need it. And it's just not even something I need anymore. It's something I want anymore. I'm not thinking about it because sex is like hunger.

It's like, it's like a need that's always inside of us until you release it. And so you want to release it often enough. You know, this is where I disagree with. Oh, yeah. Circles. I disagree with the not having an orgasm, like the no fapping, or I don't know what this movement is. But I think the orgasm is a really good way to, I mean, you can orgasm and still hold back the semen if you want. If you need to not lose the semen, you can orgasm and hold it.

So, yeah, no fap isn't even, it's not about not, I guess, not ejaculating. No fap is more so you don't want to use pornography to do so oh that's it's more so yeah it's more so for people that so what's fap stand for uh fapping well it doesn't it's not like short for anything that is fapping which is just yeah but but no fap is literally just trying to get people off of porn addiction like you still beat your meat to you know but just don't do it to porn that's the idea yeah because a lot of people are very addicted to pornography as i was when i was younger you think it was an addiction oh yeah dude i started watching porn at 11 years old

but like an addiction is a negative thing it negatively affected me because i was like i was watching it too much where it got in the way of me doing things i should do so i literally had to take literally cut that out of my life which took me a long time to do but i had to stop doing that so i could focus on other things negatively affected the way i looked at women and all that type of shit and then like i did that for a while got it not poor addicted to porn anymore took me 13 years so i was able to get not addicted to porn by the age of 24 but it took a long time of like fucking relapsing to finally get out of that shit so there's nothing wrong with masturbation but masturbating to porn especially for men who get on it when they're young like if you're 11 fucking years old and you're seeing people doing shit on a screen that's not normal and then if that's like you're yeah that's not normal so that's what that whole

movement's about not just not jerking off no that's not normal. So that's what that whole movement's about. Not just not jerking off. No. That's really interesting. I got to analyze my own psychology when it comes to that. Now, after this, I'm going to think about it. Yeah. I mean, you just think about like, if you just watched just tons and tons of horror movies and scary movies that just had, you know, awful stuff in it all the time, I would imagine at some point it's going to impact you, you know? And then we, we really hold sex to be like a, it's a really

important thing for a lot of us. And it's, uh, we assign a high value assignment to it. Sometimes it like, uh, makes you, uh, feel more of whatever you are, makes you feel more manly or more womanly or more sex or sexier or whatever. There's a lot of attachment to it all. So pornography is a really in a weird category, you know, where I think people should be very conscious of how much they're consuming and what they're watching. And I think you can get definitely get desensitized to stuff. So you can see so many different versions of so many different things after a while. Just maybe don't care about as much. It's pretty rare that i would watch porn because i just don't have time right if i have a certain amount of time i can attribute to

romance and so i want to use that with a girl and if i watch porn it's taking away from that that time but when i was younger when i was younger i did watch it and i feel like it it increased my libido and sex drive it made me want more. I thought that was kind of a good thing. I was even thinking about getting back into porn again as an experiment to see if it even increases my sex drive. I would agree with that side of it, too. I think it could be potentially a little helpful for some people. It can be. And there's some information that you produce a little more testosterone.

It's also just like, you know, use it or lose it type stuff right like you got there may be some developments in the last 20 something years since i watched a lot of porn maybe some new maneuvers that i could learn or something like this but i i stay away from horror movies also actually you do and kids all kids want to watch horror movies with me and i'm like no i'm i'm scared i try to avoid most of them. You know, so I would watch like Saw, you know. You can't sleep. Because I'm curious about the puzzle side of it, you know, if it's like really interesting. But for the most part, I stay away from horror movies.

Because I'm afraid, too, when I do a psychedelic or something that that stuff's going to come up. And I just don't want that in my head. When he throws the chick in that like pit of like needles. That's what I was fucking talking about. Did you know that that was on my mind? Yes, because when you shook your, like needles. That's what I was. Yep. When, when you know that that was on my mind. Yes. Because when you shook your hand like that, that's how I feel too.

It's so weird, but like, it just, uh, like, yeah. Yeah. That was the movie.

Yeah. That was the worst part of that. That was the wild ass movie. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Careful what information we put in our heads.

Yeah. We don't want, we don't need that kind of nightmares. Yeah. Yeah. It's something like that's on TV. Like my, my daughter, she, she likes watching, like, you know, she likes watching it and like these other scary movies, but like, that'll be on.

And my son who has no idea what's going on, he's seven months old, but like, no, no, he just like, might like be playing with like, I don't know, one of his toys. And then he'll look up and be like, and be like, he just will lock on. And I'm like, Whoa, do you like, don't know one of his toys and then he'll look up and be like and be like he just will lock on and i'm like whoa dude like don't watch this he has no idea what it is but i still don't want that like engraved in his head somewhere like i don't want like you know like the first whatever couple movies that you watch and that's like one of them like no i don't i don't want that it's just weird take us on out of here andrew i. Huge shout out and thank you to Merrick for sponsoring today's episode. Again, MerrickHealth.com. Links to them down in the description as well as the podcast show notes.

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And, you know, just to give you a heads up, like when I talk to people in the gym and I say, hey, Tony Hughes, everyone gets all fired up. Everybody gets all excited. Everybody's like, yeah, Tony's a hell of a guy. He's an awesome guy. So it's always great to have you around. Appreciate it a lot. All right. I'm at Mark Smiley Bell.

Strength is never weakness. Weakness is never strength. Catch you guys later.