Mark Bell's Power Project - How to Balance Work, Life, Family & Fitness - DON'T Sacrifice Yourself for Everyone! MBPP EP. 745

Episode Date: June 7, 2022

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Power Project Family, how's it going now? On this podcast, we talk a lot about getting great sleep. We've done countless podcasts on it. We almost talk about sleep every single podcast because of how important it is for your recovery, for your fat loss, for your muscle gain, all of that good stuff. That's why we've partnered with Eight Sleep Mattresses.
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Starting point is 00:01:21 as the podcast show notes. Are you the one who uses a partial hydration packet? I do sometimes. You find it offensive? Why don't you just put the whole thing in your coffee, man? Are we on? Yeah, we are now. Why don't you put the whole hydration packet in your... It's not that strong, Mark.
Starting point is 00:01:38 I don't want to end up like you, bro. All fucked up, strung out on hydration. That's true. I see you out in these streets. Yo, last night out on hydration. That's true. I see you out in these streets. Yo, last night, last night, something wild happened.
Starting point is 00:01:50 So I really like pickles. Yeah. So do I. Yeah, pickles are great. Quinn got my wife a pickle grabber off of Amazon because she knows that she loves pickles for Mother's Day. It's lit.
Starting point is 00:02:02 Oh, that's so smart. Cause I always have to put my fingers in the jar and then my fingers smell like fucking pickles for a minute. I'll smell my fingers on the podcast yesterday because I was like, why do my fingers smell? I know that's not because I peed. It's pickles.
Starting point is 00:02:16 Anyway. Whose stuff is on my fingers and why? You could have solved it if you washed your hands. I did. Are you sure yeah because you we have stop okay we just yeah not i washed my hand no he didn't know he didn't depends on where your hands have been i mean do you really want to wash them see especially since that's like reap like put lotion on again it's an arduous process called afterglow
Starting point is 00:02:45 right but okay i had some pickles last night and then i drank a little bit of pickle juice can you say you had pickles again that sounded really attractive i had some pickles last night why is that it's not because it's just because your voice i think your natural voice your natty voice like like the guy in the comments he needs to stop that podcast voice how much could we get to get him off here again andrew for the week find a price i'm still waiting on the offer guys what would you pay to have me deleted from this show what's the number all right taking offers what what like what would it take take about seven fifty dollars i like how you did the seven bucks thing you took it to duane yeah to the rock like seven bucks i feel back to the pickles
Starting point is 00:03:33 uh i drank some pickle juice went on the couch i was like oh i gotta use the bathroom i went and i pooped but just water came out copious and it was like three different times just copious amounts of liquid just left my body. My girlfriend's friend. Speaking of liquid death. No, seriously, speaking of liquid death. Her friend's like a scientist, so she
Starting point is 00:03:56 asked him what happened. He was like, apparently I didn't have enough sodium running through my bloodstream so my body wasn't accustomed to the amount of sodium I took in from drinking the pickle juice. And it just expelled it immediately. How much pickle juice did you drink? I didn't think I drank as much as came out of my body.
Starting point is 00:04:13 What kind of scientist is she? I know. And that's the other thing. A butt doctor? He, I think, I don't know what he works with, but he like, he, he works with like, he does a lot of chemistry stuff with his job. So he like mixes chemicals and does made up i can picture him like pacing back and forth in your kitchen being like here's my hypothesis of what transpired here tonight but yeah he's right though like there's a like whether it's potassium or sodium like they uh it like you're i forget
Starting point is 00:04:42 what uh what area it is maybe like your colon or something like tons of water will like rush in and out of there very very fast and that's when you're like oh i gotta go yeah it was so sudden too and i was like let me test no that's not a good one so i went and it was just just plastered this is not air yeah it was very uncomfortable um but be careful when drinking pickle juice especially when you're well hydrated because I did drink a lot of electrolytes. It was weird. Yeah, some people drink pickle juice for cramps or something, right? I remember reading about that.
Starting point is 00:05:15 Oh, we got the problem with this. This is the best. I couldn't find the scooper in there. I know. Yeah, I couldn't find it the other day either. And because I don't wash my hands, I can't go digging around. I was just thinking about that. He's got his pee-pee fingers all over the protein powder.
Starting point is 00:05:29 A little pee, a little poop in there. A little pee, a little poop, little pickles. Oh, my God. Today I'm going to mix a little chocolate and vanilla in here. This is going to be good. Chocolate and vanilla makes salted caramel. And salted caramel electrolytes. Oh, there we go.
Starting point is 00:05:46 I'm also going to add the Bob's Collagen. Bob's. Thanks, Bob's. Appreciate it. The Bob's Collagen, and we're going to have a party. I love it. I love it, I love it, I love it. You have so many things back behind the desk now.
Starting point is 00:06:04 There is like a little bit of like a wall over here. There's a foam roller back here. There's a foam roller, two lacrosse balls. Soul steps. Soul steps. Andrew, what you been doing with your workouts lately since we've had our boy Chris here? Because I know I am in the gym just like rubbing all over stuff like I'm a bear scratching my back in the woods. That's actually a really, really good definition or explanation of what we've all been doing.
Starting point is 00:06:30 But yeah, so Chris Kodowski. Not Kowalski? Not Kowalski. Kodowski. That is funny. That's like that game Telephone. It's like, no, it's Kowalski. Like, yeah, it's Kowalski.
Starting point is 00:06:42 It all started with Joel Green. It'll be fine. It'll be fine. It'll be fine. He looked at me and he just could tell right away that my shoulders were totally crooked. Like my left side was going way too high. And then he felt my back and he just could feel how it's just all knotted up. And he said it felt like basically like a pipe like all the way like down my left side of my back. like a pipe like all the way like down my left side on my back uh so now i get up when i when i get here i will set up a a bar on the squat rack put a plane on there and then just jab the shit
Starting point is 00:07:13 out of my trap and just roll it out like a rolling pin trying to just iron it out as best i can and like you can man when you find something you're just what is that? The first day after he did it manually with his hands, I had like a really, really bad headache. It was crazy. But I just feel these weird knots. And then when I roll them out, like my whole arm will kind of like lift. Like it's not that dramatic, but like it moves and it's really weird. And then after that, I'll lower the rack and just roll out my back,
Starting point is 00:07:43 kind of like if it was a very small foam roller, but it's the bar. And I just beat the shit out of my back with that thing. Does the bar work pretty good? The bar works really well because, again, you can find like, ooh, what is that? Like you just, you're exploring your body and you find something. You're just like, dude, what is that? And so you kind of stay in that one spot. You can roll whichever way feels the best and then after a little bit it's like okay
Starting point is 00:08:09 that one knot's gone let me roll and i found another one and it's like here we go and then after that i've been messing with the so right uh bo hightower a couple years back he kind of jabbed the shit out of my so as i didn't even know what he was doing but after he did i was like whoa like my back feels pretty good he was using a so right on you no he just used to like a fucking metal bar like he just like jabbed the shit out of my stomach i'm like what is happening like you'll be fine uh but the thing with that though is like it would it'd fade away you know like i would feel some relief and then like 15 minutes later it's like oh well that doesn't work but now it's like if i
Starting point is 00:08:45 do it every day maybe that that relief will be sustained um but yeah the combination of those three things i've been feeling pretty good um there's no reason for me to stop because it's not so much work like when i when i'm talking about rolling up my trap rolling up my back i'm only talking like three to five minutes each. So it's something very minimal that I can just add into the rest of my day. Yeah. With what, you know, guys, everyone who's listened to the podcast with Chris, um, one thing to keep in mind, it's like, you know, when we get injured, one thing that we do is we'll do our rehab work and we'll feel better. And then we'll stop doing all the things, the exercises that helped us to feel better. And then we'll reattain that injury.
Starting point is 00:09:27 And something that happens when you do body work, when you start smashing and finding these areas is you do it for a little bit, you feel really good, you stop and then something happens. So one thing is like, keep consistent. We're doing the stuff for our psoas every day. We're beating out our traps.
Starting point is 00:09:42 We're finding different like hamstrings, adductors. We're doing this daily because we know that if we maintain this and just do some of it every single day, it's going to allow us to continue feeling good. So don't just do it for a few days and then stop. Try to make a habit out of it and find parts of your day where you can get some smashing in. Yeah, smashing. I've had some pain in my adductor forever. and so I will keep reporting to people how it's going. I've been working on it every day, and I'm imagining that over time maybe I can get it to go away.
Starting point is 00:10:15 I'm working on the front of my hip as well. Yeah. Just poking around in there. But I think there's like – these things are like multifactorial. Like there's not just like one – I don't think I'm just going to like rub on there and then it will magically – I'll be like, hey, it disappeared. I think there's a lot of like activation that needs to go on too because then once you gain range of motion in a specific area, it would make sense that if that body part didn't move the way that it's supposed to move, that those areas are like, they're kind of shut down or shut off at least for the moment. And you need to get them
Starting point is 00:10:51 to wake back up. So, um, not only am I going to, you know, try to get these, uh, kinks out of my body. Uh, but in addition to that, I have to stretch. And in addition to that, because the stretching is going to, should help with mobility, can potentially help a little bit with blood flow. And then the last piece of that is some sort of strengthening. Even though you would think like, oh, well, you're probably strong from like lifting. Well, there's like lifting strength and then there's strength of being able to lift your foot up off the ground and put it up over a hurdle one way, one direction, and then the other way, the other direction, being able to do so with good control. And so I got a lot of different stuff to practice and to maneuver around with, maybe ankle weights, really anything, the foot swinging that you're showing me. really anything, the foot swinging that you're showing me.
Starting point is 00:11:49 I was showing you some of that movement with the shoulders yesterday where you do it really, really slow. It's like just whatever way I can try to find a way to get a lot of blood into the area and a way to kind of work or wake up, kind of a dead body part is what I'm looking for. Yeah. If you guys are curious what Mark is talking about with the shoulder, look up shoulder cars on YouTube. shoulder, and then the word cars, you're going to see a lot of different types of movements. Um, and like pretty much with cars,
Starting point is 00:12:14 you're like moving through a range of motion slowly, but you're, as you're getting there, you're also kind of trying to slowly find areas that are a bit tight. And as you were showing that to me yesterday and we were doing it on the walk, I'm like, ooh, there are some nice little areas where you can just like scrub that area and you'll find you'll get a little bit of a better range of motion within there. So rather than just swinging back and forth, controlling that. But to what you were saying earlier, I don't know if Chris said this or if I read it in his book or I don't know.
Starting point is 00:12:43 It's just the process. But smash, lengthen, strengthen. So hip flexor, smash the fuck out of that with a, you know, a supernova or lacrosse ball or even a barbell, depending on what you can do, you're going to find it's pretty fucking sore. Lengthen it, maybe do a couch stretch or do something to lengthen that hip flexor since you're typically sitting on it and it's shortened all day and then strengthen it. You could do things like the reverse squat. You can do L sits. You can do, shoot, kettlebell swings. Kettlebell swings are a great hip flexor movement because what happens is, you know, you're usually sitting at work. So your hip flexor is in this shortened position for a long period of time.
Starting point is 00:13:19 Then you go into the gym and you squat, but because it's not, it doesn't have the length it should, you're now working with a limited range of motion since you can't actually show the full range that your hip flexor has so if you smash it put pressure on that like chris talked about lengthen and strengthen you do this for a lot of different body parts your body's going to be feeling really fucking good i made a post today talking about shoes i I got some new ultra kicks that I was running in yesterday. Oh yeah. Felt really good. There was a couple of questions about the shoes and stuff like that. And this can get to be confusing because I don't want to encourage
Starting point is 00:13:57 people to just do a bunch of stuff barefoot. However, if you simply don't want any cost associated with changing your footwear, then trying to figure out ways to be barefoot more often would be a good idea. Potentially in the gym and potentially in your backyard, your front yard, or whatever field you can have some access to. And I don't even know if you need to bother with running. Like you can, you can run, you can run barefoot if you want to really try it. But if you haven't run, I would just encourage you just to walk, just walk around barefoot for a bit outside. I usually do so in the morning. Sometimes I'll do so at night as well. Just go outside. I live in like the country, so it's super beautiful out there. There's like all kinds of like animals and stuff out there. I live in like the country, so it's super beautiful out there.
Starting point is 00:14:44 There's like all kinds of like animals and stuff out there. And it's just really nice, you know, seeing the sun go down or the sun come up. It kind of feels like refreshing and feels good to me. But what gets confusing about the shoes is like people are like, oh, have you ever tried like Hoka's? Have you ever tried these or these other types of shoes? And I think there's tremendous value in some of those shoes. Some of those shoes might be great for some folks, but I also think that if your feet are kind of sensitive and you have any trouble moving any one of your toes
Starting point is 00:15:16 and you feel like your feet are crammed in or you have bunions or you have toes pointing in specific directions or toes that are twisted. Your feet look jammed up. There's an extra bone shooting out of somewhere. Like all kinds of crazy stuff happens to people's feet. And when you go to the doctor, the doctors usually kind of just make you think it's kind of a genetic thing or it's a overuse injury. That's what they always sell you on. So it's an overuse injury and actually i think what i'm learning and what i'd like to share is it's probably like an underuse your your foot has been like if we take the equivalent if you just wore boxing gloves all the time like anyone who's ever
Starting point is 00:15:57 been in a pair of boxing mitts it's like impossible even just to get a drink of water when you're i mean usually your coach squirts the water into your mouth because like you can't do shit. So imagine if you had boxing gloves on, you walked around with boxing gloves on, even just for like, let's just say you just did it for like three days. I would imagine your hands would be like, they would feel a little weird probably afterwards. And think about how often your foot is jammed into something that it really doesn't, afterwards and think about how often your foot is jammed into something that it really doesn't it doesn't fit in too well so i believe that our shoes uh need to allow our feet to be feet you should be able to splay your feet which is just kind of like widen your feet out you should be
Starting point is 00:16:36 able to move your toes around in your shoes and you should be able to have access to be able to move all your toes around and if you don currently, then I would suggest that you start to look into a shoe that's going to fit better. And I would work your way towards like Vivo barefoot for working out and for walking as much as you possibly can. As much as you can. And with what Mark said there, guys, remember like he just mentioned, you got to be careful of how speedy you do this. Like when I was transitioning into vivos, like there was points where like certain parts of my foot was hurting. Because in normal shoes, those parts of the foot, like the first metal tarsals or whatever, so right underneath the big toe, that doesn't usually make as much contact with the ground in normal shoes because those shoes are really padded. But now it's touching the ground with every step I
Starting point is 00:17:25 take. So I was having these stressors in those areas. And during that transition period, I had to go back to wearing my normal shoes for a little bit while I was walking just to give that part of my foot a break. And then I'd head right back into my vivos. So it's just like starting a new workout routine. You might start off with five days a week and then you're like, oh, fuck, I can't do this. So then you'll go to four or three days for a little bit so you can recover then you'll go to four days and then you'll go back to five days it's the same deal you got to ease yourself into it and if you go too hard too fast you might injure yourself so that's why just be careful but with what mark was saying it is really cool like i'm finding it it so cool, the things that's going on with my feet now.
Starting point is 00:18:06 It's like I feel like a kid because I'm like, ooh, I can spread just my pinky toe. Or wow, my second toe. Let me just try to lift that second toe up and keep everything else on the ground. And it's like it starts to lift or it wiggles. I'm just like, new power unlocked. It's really fucking dope. So some cool tools that you guys can grab you want to show somebody right away yeah i was legit like i was sitting in the sauna i'm like sam sam sam look at my toes look at my toes and i was like look at
Starting point is 00:18:34 that's a wiggle i was so excited wow she's like i've been thinking about leaving him now i'm 100 sure but some tools guys some tools are the correct toes and absolutely out of all the toe spreaders i know that they're a bit more expensive they're 65 but i've used a few toe spreaders at this point and i gotta say versus all the other toe spreaders i've used they they are the best, right? And the cool thing is when you put those on, not only can you walk around with them. Yeah, Andrew pulled it up on the screen. But you want to try to squeeze your toes against the correct toes. And you're going to feel all those little muscles starting to activate and get a little bit sore.
Starting point is 00:19:18 You can sit down with them. And as you're sitting in your chair or whatever, squeeze against the toes. That's how I usually use that. It looks hilarious, by the way. It does. But the cool thing is there's different sizes too. We're not like, again, we're not making this stuff up. I know we talk about a lot of stuff,
Starting point is 00:19:33 and I think sometimes people might be like, oh, God, here they go again, talking about the feet, and next thing's going to be the hands, and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. But if you have problems, if you have shin splints from running, if you have knee pain, if you have hip pain, if you have back pain, what if a lot of it has to do with your feet? Like why not examine? It doesn't hurt. It doesn't hurt to examine it. It doesn't hurt to look down on your feet and go, yeah, my feet are kind of
Starting point is 00:20:03 crazy. Why can't I move some of these toes? What the fuck is going on? I think a lot of people look down at their feet and they'll be like, yeah, man, I got toes that are crossing over each other and that's not normal. Our feet shouldn't be that way. And you can retrain them. And so it might be something just to look into. It's that simple.
Starting point is 00:20:21 We got something in the Discord that came in? Yes, we do. Yeah, so it was a pretty good question um if i could open my phone oh they sell limbs on correcto's website that's pretty so what's that uh these these shoes they're just super nice looking too and they have like a wider toe box of course i can't find like a decent looking one let's pull this one up oh yeah there you go see like it looks again just like a normal looking shoe yeah but like as a wide toe box yeah yeah yeah i feel like we need like i don't know we got to really open up
Starting point is 00:21:00 this space we need like sandals and shit and like like we need like, right? Like we don't need we need like, I don't want to have to put socks on all the time and shit like that. Andrew, can you find Anya's reviews on Instagram? You can actually find it on Google. She's the foot lady, right? She's the foot lady. And hopefully we'll be able to get her on because
Starting point is 00:21:19 her website, Graham mentioned her to us. Her website has just, I don't know if I'm using this word right, but I'm going to try compendium. I thought you were going to say plethora. Or plethora. A-N-Y-A. A-N-Y-A. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:36 She's reviewed so many different type of barefoot shoes. And also her foot transformation is immaculate. It's wild. That's cool. Like how wide her feet are now and like how they've transformed. But you see all those sandals, right? Barefoot shoes and all that. So she goes and she reviews all these different brands of different types of shoes.
Starting point is 00:21:57 And she actually has a barefoot shoe calculator. And I know we talk so much about Vivos because we like them. But there are other brands. So if you go to her barefoot shoe calculator,, you can look at what kind of foot you have. And then there are suggestions on the different types of shoes that you can get for what you're looking for and for your foot. And she's a really good resource for that. So I'd suggest that you guys check it out because Vivos aren't the only shoes in the space. I think they're really good looking, but there are others that you might be interested in,
Starting point is 00:22:25 including sandals. Now I'll get to the question. The question from Discord. And in Discord, guys, we have a, you know, you can check it out in the description below. We'll go here and get topics out of it or answer some of your questions. But Skyler asked,
Starting point is 00:22:42 when my day job is good, my fitness suffers. When I get my fitness in check, my family life falls by the wayside. How do the PP boys balance this in pursuit of being fit, working hard, and being present for the family? Man, I think you got to kind of start in on this question where we always start, which is like you have to probably reinterpret a bunch of different things. Reinterpret what family time means to you. Reinterpret what working out means to you. Working out doesn't always mean
Starting point is 00:23:14 that you have to go to a gym. However, sometimes that's motivating. You go to the gym, other people are exercising. You're like, shit, I better get mine too. And next thing you know, you're on your way and you got a good workout in. So it's understandable to kind of tether ourselves to some of these ideas that we've had about how our fitness has to look. A couple of things I would encourage people that I think could be some cheat codes into just making sure you get in all of it.
Starting point is 00:23:45 But before I mention that, you got to start out by saying you're not going to in all of it. Before I mention that, you got to start out by saying you're not going to get all of it. You're not going to be able to get to everything that you want to get to. Do you have to poop? Not at all, Mark. Do you have to poop?
Starting point is 00:23:55 Well, no, I just grabbed a lacrosse ball and put it underneath my foot. Oh, you made a weird face. I was like, oh man, I've seen this, got hit by the second wave. I made a little pain face. You're like, what's going on? Kind of similar panic.
Starting point is 00:24:06 So right when you find something, you're like, oh, shit. And then when you have to go to the bathroom, you're like, oh, shit. I do my best to keep my face so chill on the mic when I'm doing something on the side. Sometimes you can't. The cross ball underneath the foot, you feel that immediately. Is it the middle of your foot or nearly a heel more? The middle of the foot is the most tender. Near the heel, there's a little spot, but like it's...
Starting point is 00:24:28 Too bad. Yeah. It feels good though afterwards. Foot massage. Yeah. Okay. What was I talking about? Can't have it all, apparently.
Starting point is 00:24:37 Yeah, yeah, yeah. So there might be different times where you're going after certain things. You might be able to invest and dump tons of time into being with your children. There are times where roles reverse in a household where the dad has more opportunity to take care of the kid or the mom has more opportunity, and sometimes that switches. Sometimes those roles don't change. Sometimes they stay the same. So I think number one is you have to kind of reinterpret like how much do you really need to be there for your family and in what way? Like what's important? Like what are the things that are non-negotiable for you that you can't miss? And then work your way backwards from there.
Starting point is 00:25:18 If you know that there's certain things that you can't miss, if your kid's currently swimming and you're like, you know what? Just during the swim season, I'm not missing one swim meet. Well, a swim meet takes all fucking day. Like you're there all day. Sometimes it starts at like 7 and doesn't end until 7. Like it goes all day sometimes depending on how much of a pain in the ass your kid is with the events that they choose. So there are situations where it's like, yeah, that day is like, that day is kind of gone. So you can kind of work your way backwards into it that way.
Starting point is 00:25:50 But in addition to that, I think the other couple important things are to keep in mind, you can work out at home. You can just go for a run. You can have maybe, maybe you give yourself like three different versions of exercise. Like, okay, if I did three, if I did three 10 minute walks for today, check. If I did a 20 minute run for the day, that gets a check. If I lifted for today, that gets a check. So now you have three different options right there. Maybe a bike ride, whatever the hell it is that you love to do.
Starting point is 00:26:23 But now you got three or four different options to where if I get in any one of those things, then that's a check and that's a solid for the day. I'm good with that. And there's going to be days where, shit, you're like, man, I got in like two or three of those things for the day. And kind of the last little bit, and we'll just dive into talking about it a lot more, and you guys are going to have some ideas surrounding this but i think there's always days off of work like everyone that works except for us here at the power project everybody that works knows when they have downtime
Starting point is 00:26:58 and everybody knows when they have days off so for a lot of people they work monday through friday they have the weekends off for some people it's a little different. They got like Wednesday and something else off. Police officers, firemen, doesn't matter who you are. Everyone has days off. They go four days on, a couple of days off, whatever the situation is, everyone's got days off. Those days off, you got to kind of pressure yourself a little bit to get in some exercise. and for me on the weekend what i've noticed with my family is like nothing's really happening past like nothing starts to happen until some sometime past noon so i can do whatever the hell i want
Starting point is 00:27:34 i can wake up at six in the morning or seven or eight even i can even sleep in and and get to the gym at 10 work out for an hour and a half get home by 12 and then we're all going to the gym at 10, work out for an hour and a half, get home by 12, and then we're all going to the movies or we're going to lunch together or whatever it might be. So take those days off, like really pride yourself in saying, you know what, I'm going to make sure I'm going to get in the fitness that I need on those days. Andrew, you had a really cool outlook on that when we were talking about it in the gym. Yeah. Oh, man. Here goes my throat. No, it was along the lines of what Mark just said about reinterpretation.
Starting point is 00:28:12 But before when I was just a freelance photographer, that's exactly what happened. My photography business would take off. My fitness would fall off. And then we'd flip-flop that. I'd be getting in the gym every single day. And all of a sudden, it's like, dude, I'm not getting hired by anybody. Like, I'm not doing any photo shoots. Like, why can't I do both at the same time? Like, it was impossible.
Starting point is 00:28:36 Fast forward to now with, you know, two kids, one being one years old. Like, he takes up a lot of attention. So what I had to do was just reinterpret what I considered a workout because before it was like, no, I gotta be like the dudes on YouTube. I gotta, you know, look at the lifting motivation videos and then I gotta go crush it in the gym. I gotta go, you know, do 20 sets of chest, you know, in order to have a good workout because I want to look like those guys to now it's like, okay, how many steps did I get in today? Like, all right, cool. I got over 5,000 steps and I had a really good dinner. Like I didn't get off my meal plan or whatever, my diet.
Starting point is 00:29:15 Like that's a huge win. Or maybe even I get in like a couple of sets or whatever while like I'm doing some work or something. Like that is what I consider like a good workout now now obviously do I want to do way more yes but this is how I'm able to currently balance things out where I'm not dropping the ball here on the podcast I'm not dropping the ball at home as a you know husband and father and I'm not dropping the ball for myself where I'm like just using all of the above as an excuse to just not you know oh shit I don't have enough time let me go to the drive-thru again let me sit down let me you know not ask the kids if they want to go for a walk or the family you know it's really easy to kind of just make up all these excuses for yourself but for me it's just been that reinterpretation and kind of just being
Starting point is 00:30:03 not being okay but just understanding like my workouts not going to be an 11 out of 10 today. Like, is it going to be a five out of 10? Is it going to be something out of 10? Then that's still a huge win for me because it's going to be very hard for me to regress if I'm doing something. And I think that's what a lot of people are afraid of. Like, oh, I didn't fucking kill myself in the gym today. I'm going to get weak. I'm going to get fat. I'm going to, you know, I'm going to take 10 steps backwards. Like you won't, if you didn't do anything, you won't because it took you a long time to get here. But as long as you're doing something, you're still going to be making some progress. And so, yeah, that's what I've been doing is just kind of understanding, like, I'm going to try to get everything in, but it's okay if I, you know, take a couple of steps backwards as far as like the intensity of the workout, because I'm still going to be moving. I'm still going to be walking. I'm still going to have a really tight, clean diet and I'm still going to be there for all my responsibilities.
Starting point is 00:31:03 I think it's a good idea to kind of work your way backwards sometimes with stuff. If you do have a child at home that's four or seven, a little motherfucker with tons of energy in the household, then you can say, all right, every time I get home, as soon as I sit down, he's always like, hey, you want to play this? You want to play that? And you're like, no, wait till I eat or, you know. But you work your way backwards and say, how do I have enough energy to just say yes to him every time?
Starting point is 00:31:34 How do I have enough energy to say yes to him? I think most parents would say, I would love to be able to tell him yes every time or most of the time, like within reason. And then work your way backwards from there like what is it what would that look like does that mean that you uh you sleep a little bit more so that that way you're more rested uh does that mean that you you know your workouts are shorter because again with your workouts they don't have to be these monumental things all the time and you can kind of um from what we know from research,
Starting point is 00:32:06 you really just sounds like you're just trying to send a signal to your body of like, hey, this is what's going on today. You're working on mobility or you're working on strength or you're working on your cardiovascular. It's like whatever that is, it doesn't take that long. It doesn't take an hour to tell you to for your information your body to have the information to say all right i'm gonna actually get stronger today i mean a lot of times it's like one or two sets right now it takes time to get to those sets but there's options there's dog crap training from dante chardell where it's like five sets in a row. Anyone that's ever tried that, you can look it up on YouTube. There's threads about it.
Starting point is 00:32:47 That'll annihilate you. It takes like, once you warm up, it takes like eight minutes. There's tons of CrossFit workouts. Look at our boy Jason Kalipa. Most of the posts that he does, you're getting into deep water quick. Yes. Those are like eight-minute, 12-minute workouts. You ain't coming back from those.
Starting point is 00:33:06 Total workout could be like 20 minutes too yeah yeah those and it's not but it's not the bullshit like 6 minute ab like these are these are workouts
Starting point is 00:33:14 and these are from like like Jason Kalipa is a world class athlete he won the fucking CrossFit games so these style workouts that people do
Starting point is 00:33:22 these Metcons and stuff they are they are really brutal. So looking into having options like that is another great idea. Absolutely. I have a question for you actually, Mark. When you were 30, 35, midst of powerlifting and lifting those heavy weights, would you have had or did you have the same – this fucking net? Did you have this –
Starting point is 00:33:44 He has a little fly around him. Yeah, he's trying have a little fly around yeah it's like i'm not one of those kids man it's like bro you want to be on the show there's an extra microphone right here did you get that one uh something those african kids on the commercials you see oh okay see i didn't i'm not one of those kids man i thought it had to do with like flies and like why are they got the smell the delivery was horrible because in those like make a wish UNICEF videos, they always have the African kid with the fly running around. You know, it's like,
Starting point is 00:34:10 it's always that little kid. There was a comedian who was like the fucking camera guy could give the kid a sandwich. Who was it? It was a Bill Burr. I don't remember. It's now flying around you. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:21 Yeah. It looks like you're the hungry one. Yeah. That was about me. It's a, yeah, it was like, they're like, there's a whole staff there, like filming this. Feed him. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:31 Give the motherfucker some popcorn or something. On fucking Weight Watchers, popcorn is like the, one of those foods that's like the rated zero that you can have as much of it as you like. Dude, I love popcorn. Yeah. I have a shit is that your secret weight watchers i just saw it on a commercial the other day it was like a podcast wouldn't it be dope if he was sponsored by weight watchers dog that would be great to the no but i think it'd be all right because the point system's actually kind of cool they like it's if it fits your macros but if it fits your points true smart pop is pop is awesome, by the way.
Starting point is 00:35:05 It's like only 200-something calories for the whole thing. You could be in better shape, but only with Weight Watchers. That was good delivery. Yeah, it wasn't bad. It wasn't bad at all. PropRoger fam, this episode is brought to you by Vivo Barefoot Shoes. We've been wearing these shoes for almost a year now. They're flexible.
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Starting point is 00:36:14 when i had some of my family members come out here uh like i had aunts and uncles and some people visit the gym right um you know they came they came here, you know, way after the fact, right? Like way after super training and slingshot like took off, they saw this facility that we're in now. And they were like, oh, this is where you've been. It's like, yeah, this is where I've been every Tuesday, every Thursday, every Saturday, every Sunday. This is where like I've been living and dying in here. So when I was, you know, in the middle of power lifting like that, my wife knew like Tuesday, Thursday, Saturday, Sunday. I mean, unless there's like an emergency like that, that's where I am.
Starting point is 00:37:01 I'm there. That's where I am. I'm there. And also it's – so I also don't have much of another life other than like being a fitness person. So everyone will have to excuse me on that part because somebody that is a construction worker trying to lift and like, Jesus, like I admire all of you guys. And I understand it would be harder. But I had super training gym. I had kids. I had my wife. I had Power Magazine and Slingshot was just getting started. But my wife's always been really supportive. So I think communication with your spouse, significant other, is really important. You say, I really enjoy jujitsu.
Starting point is 00:37:44 This is what I want to do do i want to be a world champion someday and it'd be great like if you're if you want to be in support of that that would be awesome and i'm going to be at the gym at these times you know like it's not you're not saying it like a dick you're not like don't bother me during these times like it's super important i gotta like and it's not it's not anything that you can ever bend on or there was plenty of times where it's like, uh, we had something to go to or something to do.
Starting point is 00:38:12 And I'm like, I'll just lift on Wednesday. Oh, I can't, I don't get to lift with the team on Saturday. Damn. I love those squat workouts. All right.
Starting point is 00:38:20 I'll get in there on Friday and get it done. So there's, of course there's still some manipulation of time and there's a lot of give and take in relationships, especially when you have children because then everything turns to the kids. I don't really care that you want to work out Saturday morning. Jake has a baseball game. And I wouldn't even – from my standpoint, I wouldn't want to lift weights while he's playing baseball. For me, I'm like, that doesn't... Now, if you have a job and you're a firefighter and you can't...
Starting point is 00:38:54 If you're just starting out a career, you don't have that option. You have to be at work. There's going to be a time and place for everything, but I don't think you need to feel guilty about working. I don't think you need to feel guilty about working. I don't need to think you need to feel guilty about providing for your family. I just think that occasionally you might need to check yourself on that because sometimes you might be like, well, I'm pretty secure. Like I don't have to say yes to everything all the time. I probably can get some of these other days off. So the main thing for me was, you know, in the height of my powerlifting career, you know, those four days a week, four hours each time, three, four hours each time,
Starting point is 00:39:33 that's what I was doing. That's where I was. Um, and that's just the way it kind of was. Yeah. Your family, you know, doesn't, and your family and your fitness does not need to be one thing sacrifices for the other. When you're spending a lot of time with your family and work's going well, your fitness doesn't have to suffer. When your fitness is going well, your family doesn't have to suffer. And that's why we talk about building so many different types of capacity. So if you're someone who's only focused on lifting in the gym and that's the only type of capacity or fitness you have and that's the only thing you go and do well when something happens where you can't make it to the gym anymore and you don't do anything like running you don't do jump roping you don't maybe grab a
Starting point is 00:40:12 kettlebell to keep at your house you're now feeling like my fitness is gone but it doesn't have to be if you had a kettlebell that you had at home and you had a jump rope like we were doing this morning or something in those times where that goes okay well now my fitness is waking up before everybody else. And just for 30 minutes, I'm going to do a little complex doing a little bit of jump rope, doing a little bit of kettlebell and maybe doing some burpees. And trust me, that's a hell of a fucking workout for 20 minutes,
Starting point is 00:40:36 hell of a workout for 20 minutes. And then you can go into your day feeling good that you got a great workout in, but you check that fitness box and your family doesn't have to suffer. The only time when these things suffer is when you are limited on the things that you feel that you have to do, right? I have to go into the gym five days a week for a 90 minute workout, but for some, you don't always have to do that. So that's why we talk about broadening all the different capacities you have, because if you can broaden those capacities, it gives you so many more tools for you to be able to stay on top of your fitness when things aren't going the perfect way, right?
Starting point is 00:41:11 And then there's also the tool of nutrition, right? Because this guy was talking about how like when the family stuff is going really well, fitness goes, but part of fitness isn't just working out, but it's also making sure you take care of your nutrition. So when you're not going to the gym as much, right, but you're eating the same amount of food, you're going to gain some weight. So that's why you need to have some tools that's going to allow you to maybe take away from the food a little bit in the times when you may not be burning as many calories as you were when you were going to the gym five days a week, 90 minutes a session. as many calories as you were when you were going to the gym five days a week, 90 minutes a session. The food part can be really hard for people, especially with family. They're like, yeah, the kids, you know, and it's like, your kid doesn't drive to the grocery store and buy cookies.
Starting point is 00:41:56 Like, your kid's four, you know? You, for some reason, think it's like a good idea to feed. Look, we know this is a bad idea for our pets. You know, yeah, I love my dog. I love Daisy. I would love to give her like all kinds of weird little treats and like watch her go crazy over certain things, right? It's like kind of – it's fun. But I also know it's like detrimental.
Starting point is 00:42:19 Like it's not great for her. She's just going to get overweight. Her stomach is going to drag in the ground. Her little feet that move fast. They're not going to be able to – she's not going to get overweight. Her stomach's going to drag on the ground. Her little feet that move fast, they're not going to be able to... She's not going to be able to go anywhere. Her little daisy's not dragging her body. Her little legs might get stronger if she's towing around a little bit
Starting point is 00:42:33 more weight. She might be Jack Daisy. That's true. Turn into a power lifter. Maybe she's in too much of a caloric deficit. Her hormones are stressed, right? Yeah, she's a cardio bunny, cardio puppy. You know, but we have control over the types of foods that come into the household. We have control over the types of foods that we want to eat. I recognize that sometimes when people are thinking of eating as a family, they're thinking like I'm going to eat what we've always eaten because our family has always ate this way.
Starting point is 00:43:04 Well, if you look around the room and you look at your family, like, how in shape are they? How well do they move? My family, I love everybody in my family so much, but my family is fucking broken. Extended. People do not move around really well. Yeah, well, the Bell family. You guys, you know, you see my dad.
Starting point is 00:43:25 My dad, unfortunately, he's had a lot of surgeries. He's had knee surgeries and hip surgeries from the time he was young. I don't know what he was born with or how. You know, he was born with a lot of unfortunate circumstances where his body was just off. He was in lots of pain and stuff like that. And I think nowadays he feels pretty good. But it's hard for him to get around. It's hard for him to stand completely upright.
Starting point is 00:43:48 And my uncles and some of my other family members, they're like, they're leaning way forward. They've had to make drastic changes and it's been really cool to see that, to make drastic changes with their nutrition over the years because they did exactly what we're talking about right here. They got caught up in the family, the work, the nine to five.
Starting point is 00:44:08 I need to make six figures. I need to hustle, hustle, hustle. And everyone's extremely successful. Like not so much in terms of like being like banked up and there's like tons, tons of money. But my family is amazing. They're like coaches. They have good kids. They have, you know, just a very, very typical standard kind of American lifestyle where they did a great job
Starting point is 00:44:33 providing for their kids, but they also worked so much that they didn't think about themselves much. And now it's like, you know, you're 50, 60. Now you got to start to get these habits that are hard to and a lot of them have gained the habits which is cool yeah but like my uncle peter for example he's had like a bunch of spinal surgeries and stuff and his back is real jacked up but he did an absolutely amazing job he lost like 100 pounds he stays in shape he walks like 15 miles every day it's a savage when it comes to walking. But just imagine if you didn't have to do that.
Starting point is 00:45:12 Imagine if you didn't have – because you were chipping away the whole time. I'm hoping the three of us, we don't have to necessarily – none of us has to walk 15 miles a day. I know he enjoys it too, but you kind of get my point. It's like I don't want to have to try to rewind the hands of time when I'm already kind of like bent over and really screwed up. Yeah. You know, one thing that you said, man, and it ties into what our homie, our friend here said and asked. He mentioned how when the family's good, my fitness falls but the amount of times i've heard people say well you're in really great shape but try doing that when you have a family and kids to take care of and that is actually very care of my kids but no dude that's super admirable the things that you just told me about
Starting point is 00:45:58 your family like how those those extended family like they they provide for their children they take care of their significant other. That's an admirable thing. That's what you want to aim for. But I think what happens is people put so much into that, that then they feel that they can't really take care of themselves. So that's not even something that they've seen modeled. Remember my cousin, Steven and JL, just like gave us the story on my cousin Steven. He's like, why are you standing in the corner over there? And he's like, I don't know, just to kind of be out of the way.
Starting point is 00:46:31 He's like, yeah, I know. And then JL went into this whole thing. He's like, you provide for your family, and you're always there for your kids, and you're there for your wife, and you're making money, but you're not paying attention to your own body and how you feel. And he almost cried. He was like, fuck, man. I'm just here to kind of support Mark and to hang out for the podcast. And I think so many people see that model. Like they see, okay, well, my father took care of his family
Starting point is 00:46:53 and I didn't see him working out or doing all this, but he made sure the kids and his wife was doing okay. My mom never did anything for herself ever. She made sure y'all were good. A hundred percent. Right? So that's the thing. Like,
Starting point is 00:47:05 okay. Even though we've seen that narrative so much that you sacrifice yourself for your family, because you quite literally are sacrificing part of your life to make sure all these other lives are okay. How about instead of sacrificing your life, you take the 30 minutes in the morning to take care of your body, right?
Starting point is 00:47:23 And take care of your health so that number one, not only are you better for your family, but you're going to be here longer for your family. You're going to be somebody that other people in the family can rely on. For a longer amount of time. You can lean on. The amount of people that, it's sad,
Starting point is 00:47:41 but like the amount of people that are gone too early because, I mean shit. They did a lot for their kids and their family and they left a lot. But they're gone early because they didn't take the time to take care of themselves. It's sad that it's necessary. They're ending up on medications in their late 30s, early 40s. And people are just not able to move around and get around as much. And then there's like little stuff where you don't even realize, like any of us that have
Starting point is 00:48:12 been injured before, we were talking about the other day, like I was like, you ever like hurt something? And you're like, I didn't even know how much I use my pinky, but goddamn, like it comes in handy a lot. You use it a ton when it finally gets hurt or something, right? And I think there's a lot of people that have a lot of pain and there's like physical pain. There's mental pain. There's scarring from when you're young from certain traumas and stuff. But even aside from some of that, you just literally don't feel as good as you used to. Like if someone's like, hey, from the chair that you're sitting in right now, just jump in the air.
Starting point is 00:48:50 Someone who's been around for a little while that is untrained is going to go, what? And the what is to like, let me give this a delay so I can see if that person really wants me to actually like jump. And how high do they want me to jump? And like jump where? For why for why you know for what but if you pointed to a little kid that's sitting in a classroom you said get up and jump they'd be like fuck yeah because like you know physically they feel wonderful they feel really great but if you haven't really expressed yourself that way in a long time and jumped or ran or something, you feel terrible. But that eats at you each and every day when you're trying to help people. When somebody says, hey, let's go.
Starting point is 00:49:33 You want to go see a movie? You're like, nah. It's hard to be as vibrant or be there for somebody when you don't feel as good. Absolutely. I mean, that's like the stuff that I was having to deal with my back, you know, like it's, it's tough to stay motivated, you know? So that's why like, I'd have to find things that worked, but I found motivation in that. And one thing that like, you know, like going back, I don't know, we'll say,
Starting point is 00:49:59 yeah, 10 years here in all this, I'd be like, oh gosh, there's no way I could, you know, be able to do that. Even with a bad back, like I can't, I wouldn't be able to maintain all this. But the things that are saving me right now is just the habits. Like if I didn't have the habit of a clean diet, you know, I'd probably be, you know, looking a lot skinnier while looking fatter, like maintaining more body fat. Yeah. So a lot of this stuff, like for people that are listening, you know, if you're not quite there yet, it's just because the habits aren't developed yet. It's, it's not like we have to necessarily like, like when we were all in the gym earlier, like it wasn't a, like, we didn't like go onto our calendar
Starting point is 00:50:40 and be like Friday morning, I'm going to go, you know, beat the shit out of my traps. Let's go. And like, you know, get all motivated. Like beat the shit out of my traps. Let's go. And get all motivated. We just all walked in there naturally because that's just part of our daily thing now. And that's a huge piece of the puzzle for people is just making it a habit and not really even thinking about it. You bring up a great point. My family members being coaches and teachers and stuff like that, they're never late. They're never late for work. These are like the most reliable people that you got. You know, these are, they're amazing people. They're always going to be on time. They're loyal. So they have dedication. It's just in a lot of different areas and they just haven't, I think, unfortunately, like years ago, people just didn't really know. Obviously we know, like if you don't move your body around, you've heard move it
Starting point is 00:51:23 or lose it. We've heard some of these things for a while but now there's just so much more information about food and there's so much more information about how dangerous these family gatherings can be where you just are consuming calories and it's just completely mindless uh i don't care what you're celebrating i don't care how wonderful you think it is no one gets a free pass you don't get to hold up a card at the end of the day and say, well, this was a really extraordinary celebration we had as a family, and this is something we do every year. So I want to check this in so you don't count that 10,000 calories against me.
Starting point is 00:51:58 Free pass, yeah. I would suggest that. Oh, that was a pretty legit celebration, so you're good. Go ahead. You're not going to get any fatter, I promise. And it's like, what did you have? Oh, that was a pretty legit celebration, so you're good. Go ahead. You're not going to get any fatter, I promise. And it's like, what did you have? Like, oh, it was homemade. All right, go for it.
Starting point is 00:52:10 Sounds legit. Yeah. Man, some of these family gatherings, some of that food's fucking good. Especially cultural food, especially Filipino gatherings. Oh, dude. Oh! Dude. I feel like Filipinos have the, where's our boy melvin i know melvin bring me some lumpia
Starting point is 00:52:27 that's how melvin went from like what was it one what was he saying 150 or something it's like 230 it's like 230 yeah that's that culture i remember when we were talking about that back to 200 though yeah he's crushing it that one day he was like man you know this diet stuff is cool but it gets me when my mom makes food i'm like bro i know i feel you because oh filipinos y'all y'all y'all some rock stars with your food melvin calves too melvin well i'm not even gonna is it yeah he does have calves yeah he does he's got some calves melvin's of asian descent and one thing you do notice with a lot of like asian individuals who don't work out and do work out is just their calf genetics are a peak for no reason our boy angelo
Starting point is 00:53:10 what the fuck that's right right he doesn't even work him he's just like rocking around like boulders on his but like melvin like he's on his toes jumping right because he's like used to sparring and boxing and stuff so that makes some sense but i'm sure he's never yeah angelo's ridiculous he's like i've been working out for like two weeks and he's all fucking lumped up you're like dude what's why he's so yoked up what the fuck i was kind of bummed when he was talking about like yeah i'm getting into running i'm like dude you are spitting in the universe's face right now you could be a fucking monster bodybuilder like it would take you like two months too like you would see huge results he's like i want to get into like more long distance stuff like and do what you enjoy stupid ass running one thing i would suggest is uh you guys should listen to the hooberman lab
Starting point is 00:53:57 episode with dr wendy suzuki and she talks about boost attention and memory with science-based tools right that the really cool thing about this episode was that Wendy Suzuki is the dean of NYU, New York University. She's the dean of one of their departments. She's busy. She is busy as all hell, okay? Busy, like one of the busiest people you could imagine. And she was talking about the situation where she was heading for tenure and she had to
Starting point is 00:54:20 do all these grants and she was working, working, working. And in that period of time, two years, she gained 25 pounds. It wasn't working well. She wasn't feeling good. So then she just started building a habit of doing some exercise in the morning. She just did a cardio-based workout with some DVD, like, insanity-type video thing every morning before. And she lost that 25 pounds. And one day she was working.
Starting point is 00:54:40 She was like, this grant writing stuff feels good. Like, she never said that before. But she she's like why does this actually feel good why and and it was because number one she built the habit of exercise she planted that into her life where now everything feels better because she's more fit and she's exercised they also talked about the benefits of cardiovascular work and your working memory and how it helps you with BDNF or brain derived nootropic factor. But one thing she mentioned that was like so poignant, I think, was she talked about her father and she was raised by her father and mother, but her father was an engineer. He was the one who was working all the time providing for the family. Her mom was the one
Starting point is 00:55:21 who was like exercising and taking care of them, she was taking care of herself but the dad was like work work work work work kind of like what wendy was doing when she wasn't exercising that much and her father got alzheimer's her mom was taking his having to take care of her father but her father ended up getting alzheimer's dementia there's anything we know we know that individuals that exercise more often or have that habit of doing some cardiovascular-based exercise or some lifting or just using their body in that fashion, they can push those things off and they also have a much better quality of life. And this is something we've been talking about forever. But that's a thing to pay attention to. You might be doing – killing it in business, killing it in whatever you're doing, providing for your family, doing all these things. killing it in business, killing it in whatever you're doing, providing for your family, doing all these things. But if you're not taking the time to take care of yourself, there could come
Starting point is 00:56:09 a point where your family's having to now take care of you because you didn't take the time, the 30 minutes a day or the 40 minutes a day in the morning to take care of yourself. You could now be the person that your family has to take care of. And I'm not hoping that or wishing that on anybody, but it's just a reality that many people have to go through. So if you can take the time, along with providing for everybody that depends on you and taking care of all those people and being that rock in your family, but also being that rock for yourself, you're going to do an even better job of taking care of those people that really care about you. taking care of those people that really care about you. Another thing she said that was really awesome was kind of like what these things do for our brain and what they do for us in general and the cascade of hormones going on. One thing that I've found that seems to be important for anyone that I see that's real successful
Starting point is 00:56:59 is they have this maybe internal understanding that if you want to be at peace, you got to go to war. At some point in your life, you got to go hard on something. You got to have some intensity towards something. Pushing yourself in the gym is a really interesting thing because you're there basically for pain, which doesn't seem to make any sense. But you're like, this pain that I got yesterday seems to be working out really well for me. So I'm going to keep coming back here because the more I work through this pain, the more that I grow. And the more that I can kind of continue to do that, the better that
Starting point is 00:57:33 I can feel about myself. This lady said that exercise is like a bubble bath for your brain. It's like a bubble, like just imagine if someone was to just break it down and they said, hey, listen, I got this really cool thing. I know that you have some anxiety. I know that you've been upset lately and you've been really worried. But we have this thing that we can take your brain out and we can dip it into this thing that's got all these lotions and these wonderful things. It's going to make you feel fucking amazing.
Starting point is 00:58:07 It's going to cause a cascade of hormones to go on in your body. It's going to help you lose body fat. It's going to help you do this and do that. And then they break it to you that it's exercise. You're like, fuck, okay. Maybe I should do it. But what an interesting analogy, a bubble bath for your brain. And I think, I mean, that's why we love it.
Starting point is 00:58:27 That's why we're in there all the time. That's why we're there for so fucking long all the time is because of this. We're trying to get all three of us in the bubble bath at the same time. Oh, yeah. Another little cool thing. Another cool thing that she mentioned, and I'm like, man, we've been on this shit, is she talked about how like in the mornings, because she was, Huberman just asked, okay, what are your habits? Because you're this high performer, you're a fucking dean, you're doing all these things, you have tenure, it's crazy. What are you doing?
Starting point is 00:58:59 And she mentioned that she does a cold shower in the morning after her exercise. So she'll, you know, we plunge, right? She does a cold shower in the morning after her exercise. So she'll, you know, we plunge, right? But what she does is she's addicted to going into warm and then putting the water on super cold for maybe two minutes. And she does that every morning. And we know that like, number one, you get this rush of epinephrine and all these different cascades of like norepinephrine, epinephrinerine and adrenaline that helps you feel good for hours but she even mentioned that like if she ever forgets to do it like she's like god damn i gotta go do it so she'll run back to the shower and get in that cold so that's another thing that
Starting point is 00:59:34 it's like you don't have okay if you don't have a cold plunge just fucking put the water on warm shower for a little bit then for the last minute or two go cold and these are one of those things that's going to give you a bit of a boost in the morning to feel even better. So do that shit, man. What was the thing about the heart rate that you said you- Yeah. So I want to learn more about, I've heard of Wim Hof. I've downloaded the app a while ago. I've done the breathing technique, but I never really went deep on what it's all about. So in his book, he said that individuals who, you know, just a shower, right? They go into a shower, shower warm, and then at the end of your shower, just have a minute or two just cold and then turn it off. That after 10 days, their general resting heart rate actually
Starting point is 01:00:19 decreases potentially seven to 10 beats. This means that, you know, you do that. And for the rest of your day, instead of your resting heart rate being at potentially 65 or 70, it's at 55 to 60. And if there's anything we know about the resting heart rate, it's that the lower your resting heart rate, the general number one, your heart health is better, but those people tend to just be a little bit more chill. And when your heart rate's higher and your breathing isn't as good and you're walking around with a heart rate of 75 to 80, you're breathing really fast and you're in this state where you're like a little bit tense, right? So that's a simple practice that will allow you to just go through your day feeling more chill, feeling more relaxed. And we always talk about the, we've talked about it on our last
Starting point is 01:01:04 episode with the scale, how stress can cause you to hold more cortisol, hold more relaxed. And we always talk about the, we've talked about it on our last episode with the scale, how stress can cause you to hold more cortisol, hold more water and hold more weight. And if you're less stressed, God damn, you're just going to be feeling better all the time. We know that something like caffeine can, you know, get your heart rate going a little faster, right? Yeah. But imagine again, take take the same scenario, and you're used to kind of being able to regulate your heart rate a little bit easier by utilizing some cold therapy. Obviously, you can just skip the coffee as well, but a lot of us are addicted. Bitch, what?
Starting point is 01:01:38 No. I'm too addicted for that shit. We're in too deep. Bitch, what? If you think about caffeine as being like just any other problem that might race your heart, you can kind of just look at it and say, look, if my heart rate is lower just because I have this practice of cold, maybe my interpretation of the things that are going on around me are going to be easier on me. Maybe my heart won't get so jacked up the next time that I hear about a car
Starting point is 01:02:07 payment that I have or whatever the hell the thing is, it gets you fired up and pissed off. Yeah. I'm hoping that the cold plunge can help. Well, it will help me with the resting heart rate. Cause my shit's always like through the roof. What's it,
Starting point is 01:02:19 what's your resting heart rate? So it's like, well, like I'm trying to calm myself down and I can't get like into the sixties right now, but like, it's usually like around calm myself down, and I can't get into the 60s right now, but it's usually around 70 to 80 all the time. Yeah. Unless this watch is incorrect, which is totally possible.
Starting point is 01:02:32 Yes, I am on a good amount of caffeine right now. I just drank a Monster. What about when you sleep? Where does it go to? Yeah, yeah. Any idea? I'll have to check. Yeah, I'm not sure.
Starting point is 01:02:41 Yeah, if you look in the app, it'll tell you what your heart rate's at. The 8Sleep app, it'll tell you your heart rate yeah let me pull that up i'll just we'll reference that i guess later but yeah um the the the cold plunge is pretty fucking incredible i do love it for that the mental side of things like i said in the past and then of course my back doesn't hurt when I'm in there because it's too cold. You know, one thing that I wasn't thinking about that much, but, but, you know, typically in the past, my resting heart rate was maybe around like when I'm just sitting around, it's usually around like maybe 58 to 60. But for the past few weeks when I've been doing cold consistently and cold plunging consistently, I've been looking at my watch every now and then and my heart rate's at like 50 52 and i'm just like yeah i just kind of put it
Starting point is 01:03:31 aside but after reading that from the wim hof thing and then realizing the the habit of cold that i've been putting in it kind of makes some sense i could be making some bullshit correlation right now but i'm pretty sure like that's because my resting heart rate was never like super high but it's never just been chilling at 50 you know that that sometimes happens usually when i'm asleep right but not when i'm just sitting down and doing nothing yeah so it says my heart rate variability for last night was 67 ranges from 52 to 99 but then uh sleeping heart rate shows 54 and which is a new hr alert that's not that's good so that's good yeah that's good all right i love damn fucking eight sleeps amazing shit i just pulled that right up too yeah all right cool let's see
Starting point is 01:04:21 last 30 days oh my god that skyrocketed up to 72. Okay. So 72 is the high while I'm sleeping. And then, yeah, it's been hanging out in the fifties actually. Dude, no, that's awesome. Heck yeah. That's probably when I started using the nasal, uh, breathe right strips. There's definitely a quick connection. Another thing to think about, uh, in, uh, trying to have your fitness and your family and all these different things, all these plates spinning at one time, rather than spinning a bunch of different plates at one time, maybe you just spin one plate. And what I mean by that is maybe you just incorporate everything all together. have some weights in your garage and maybe it's normal practice for your five-year-old to go in there with you every day and they get on the rower while dad's doing some dumbbell
Starting point is 01:05:09 cleans or whatever the hell it is. So again, using Jason Kalipa as an example, using Andrew as an example, Jesse Burdick. Like Jesse Burdick's kids, they just don't know any different. You know, his kids are 14 or so now and his daughter, I think, squats like 200 pounds or something. I could be off with that. Maybe it's like 155 or 185, whatever the hell it is. And she's only like two years old. Yeah, she's only two years old, but she's low to the ground now.
Starting point is 01:05:40 Yeah, it's one of his teenage daughters. Oh, my God. Yeah, and it's just, but that's just like – that's his life. The kids are in the gym. He's in the gym with them. So whatever way you can incorporate stuff, I've tried to do that the best I can. And whenever appropriate with my kids and my wife, I've brought them to meetings and to different things. And I always check ahead of time.
Starting point is 01:06:05 You don't want to bring a bunch of little kids around people that aren't comfortable with that because that's not a great idea. But my kids were usually going to do something different anyway. So I would go and meet somebody somewhere at a coffee shop, let's say, and my wife would take them for a walk. But everybody would meet each other. Everybody gets to know each other, and then things are kind of integrated into each other a little differently yeah we're
Starting point is 01:06:27 raising a uh it's gonna sound mean we're raising a little asshole because if i go to try to grab like a halo top thing he's just like hey what's that and i'm like nothing you know like he's just like no i want like he's reaching for him like no you can't have it but i feel bad because it's like well why can i have it and he can't you know like so he's been like the biggest like uh accountability partner to stay on my like diet because like i can't you know like well we're not even gonna bring it in the house because i can't have it because the little guy's gonna you know bug me but then like he'll be the one that runs to the cable machine and he'll start like doing rows and stuff it's pretty incredible but you know so he's definitely
Starting point is 01:07:06 going to be the one that's like how come you're not working out like you know he's going to be the the real um i can't even think of the right word but he's going to be the one that's going to push us you know and it's just because like you just said mark like we're making it weird to not work out we're making it weird to not stay on the plan you know i just think about how cool it is to be jump like i'm on this fucking jump rope kick right now as you can tell but like just jump roping outside with my fucking imaginary kid like that's exactly what i was gonna say i'm like when you do have kids on you're still doing that they're just gonna be like all their all their kids friends are gonna be like dude your dad's the coolest not just that but like again
Starting point is 01:07:43 like what mark said what you said and what you said, it's like this is just normal. They see you doing these things. So they're just like, I want to hop in. I want to hop in with you, daddy. Can I jump from you, daddy?
Starting point is 01:08:00 Have you ever watched that movie Bay Bay's Kids? No. I've never heard of it. No? No. What is Bay Bay no what is oh my god damn it adding it to the list of black movies you need to watch this shit is amazing it's a cartoon it is it's so good is it new or is it old it's old you know it's old yeah i'm not calling you old i'm trying it is old though it's like 20 years old probably yeah i remember being a kid watching baby's kids
Starting point is 01:08:28 dude i must not just i must not be black i don't know the the comedian's name the the main guy because he he was already kind of like long gone by time we were of age you're black and don't start getting all down in yourself when a white man says you're black, Enzima. Don't start getting all down on yourself. When a white man says you're black. Thank you, Mark. I appreciate it. I feel it's back. You're welcome. Interesting.
Starting point is 01:09:00 All right, cool, cool. It's a must watch, dude. I think we killed this one. And then just another podcast recommendation, because you were talking about Andrew Huberman. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But if you guys want to, just completely skip that one and watch the Habits.
Starting point is 01:09:14 Sorry, Your Diet Doesn't Fail Your Habits Do. That one is a huge thing as far as spinning all the plates and keeping them going without falling. It's just implementing those habits. Yeah, that was one of ours, right? Yep. Man. I was just clarifying.
Starting point is 01:09:33 We do a lot. We do multiple episodes. We're pumping out five or sometimes six episodes in a week. We're on fire over here, bringing this shit over. And Discord's on fire, too. Over 1,200 1200 y'all need to check it out we answer questions from there on here and also in there and people in there are just killing it in the personal accountability side nice we got bruce boost killing it we got a
Starting point is 01:09:56 lot of people in there that are just posting their steps each day i think i just saw matthew did like 17 000 steps barefoot or some shit damn yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That fucker's insane. Yeah. That's great. He's fucking, wow. Yeah, he, yeah, he's wild. Yeah. Take us on out of here.
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