Mark Bell's Power Project - How To Get Back Into Shape After No Exercise For a Long Time: Fitness and Diet Advice || Mark Bell's Saturday School

Episode Date: August 24, 2024

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Starting point is 00:00:00 for some people, they might think it's over as they get a little older. I hear really young people say it too. They're like, man, I'm 32, man, and this is falling apart and that's falling apart. I'm like, whoa, 32 is very young. 42 is very young. I think 52 is still really young.
Starting point is 00:00:13 But do you think somebody has to actively seek discomfort? Who's wearing these Hoka shoes? Who's wearing these New Balance shoes and? Sketches. They need to kind of find like a resistance and sort of lean into it a little bit. And you need to do it gradually. Anything works in the beginning.
Starting point is 00:00:29 You'll gain a little bit of muscle size from just going to the gym and like dicking around. The way that you train is gonna dictate how you get. How do you make the diet a little bit easier? For people that are like just kind of starting out, there's really no reason to go on any sort of really hardcore crazy diet. Do they have to think about this every day
Starting point is 00:00:49 in everything they do? Being in shape and being out of pain will probably be the most important job that you ever do. Who do you think had the best WWE intro music? Man, it's tough. You know, so Hulk Hogan, you know, back in the day, intro music. Man, it's tough. So Hulk Hogan, back in the day, a long time ago, he had Eye of the Tiger. And then it turned into Real American, which both were great.
Starting point is 00:01:16 But when he came out to the Eye of the Tiger, it was pretty amazing. And then you can't really beat Stone Cold. That's what it is for me. Right? The broken glass. You know, you hear the broken glass, and you just know all hell's going to break loose. Like, whoever had that idea to have the broken glass,
Starting point is 00:01:34 that was amazing. That was really smart, whoever did that. The Rock is always good. Like, you know, his music was kind of like whatever, but his, you know, you smell what the rock is cooking would play over the thing. And then you just knew he's going to come out and talk trash. So that was always a good one. But yeah, man, there's a lot.
Starting point is 00:01:54 I like John Cena's thing. I don't know why his thing sounds so like Mexican with all the horns and stuff, but I dig it. So yeah, for me, it's definitely it's definitely Stone Cold. I think I got the most excited when The Rock came out. But like, if you listen, if you just listen to The Rock's intro, it, you know, The Rock says, and just like, like, but I'm not The Rock. I can't get too hyped up about this.
Starting point is 00:02:21 But Stone Cold, you hear that that glass break, you're just like, let's go. Like, it's on. John Cena is dope because he's like, your time is up, my time is now. Right. Like, yes, let's go. That'll get you fired up. Yeah, that was amazing.
Starting point is 00:02:34 And then, you know, you got Vince McMahon too, who shouldn't be outdone, no chance in hell. And he'd come out with the way he'd walk, you know, he'd walk all crazy to the ring. But all that stuff, so much fun, man. Like when it's like the guys in the ring, you know, there's some other guys in the ring and then like, you know, the Undertaker's music comes on. Oh yeah, they get so scared.
Starting point is 00:02:55 The Undertaker had great, great like ambiance and like set up and everything too. Like supposedly they would crank the air conditioning up a little bit when he'd come out, they get the lights dim and then, and then his thing, you know, and then he'd come out. But he also came out to like American badass, which was kind of cool when he did that, when he was kind of like the motorcycle undertaker. Yeah. Yeah. I kind of missed the, the era of like, I don't know, the dead man or whatever they called them. Dead man walking. Yeah., uh, I don't know the dead man or whatever they called them dead man walking. Yeah. I was, uh, I started watching when he came back with American badass and that was super
Starting point is 00:03:31 cool too. That was really fun. Yeah. One of my favorite, one of my favorite, uh, Monday night raw ever was stuff was going on with Stephanie McMahon and test, I think. And they were like getting married or some shit like that. I don't know. And the undertaker was like haunting Stephanie McMahon's
Starting point is 00:03:49 dreams and then Stephanie McMahon went to go and get into a limo and she was like, I'm trying to go to like, you know a party or something or something like that. She gets in and the undertaker's driving. He goes, where to Stephanie? He just takes off. Like that stuff was so much fun. Or watching Stone Cold with the beer truck
Starting point is 00:04:10 and like driving the Budweiser beer truck. And like, I think he like drove it right to the ring and then sprayed everybody with beer and everything. Like they just did some amazing stuff. And did they have Tom Brady throwing the cans of beer at him, because I swear I remember they would throw it from like where like Lawler was, and then he would be like where they would,
Starting point is 00:04:35 like the wrestlers would walk down like the intro, right? Like I swear like they would throw it that far and they'd just be like, and he'd catch it every time, like, dude, who's chucking these beer cans? Cause they have perfect accuracy. They had it down. And Stone Cold was a hell of a receiver too. Who knew he had like a golden glove over there. He was fucking catching everything. I went to one of the shows one time and you know, the show is a little different when you see it live versus when you see it on pay-per-view or when you see it on TV.
Starting point is 00:05:08 When you see it live, there's like a lot more stuff that happens. Sometimes on TV, they'll have a commercial break and they're only on TV for so long. But I think I saw Stone Cold and The Rock and Stone Cold, they just kept throwing him beer as he's like coming up the ramp. He's like leaving the ring and he had, I don't know, he had like five or six beers. He had a, he had like five or six beers in the ring and they had five or six beers out of the ring
Starting point is 00:05:35 and he like leaves and then he comes back out and the fans go nuts again and they're throwing and people are throwing him more beer. He's catching more beer and drinking. I'm like, he just got completely, and he just sits down. He like sits down on the ramp and he's just completely hammered. I'm like, what are we even watching at this point? He's just like, we're just watching somebody else get completely drunk. Watching alcohol poisoning happen in real time.
Starting point is 00:05:57 Yeah, it was amazing. I don't know why it was so exciting, but it was great. Smash them together, dump them everywhere. Yeah, dude, the good old days. You know, a lot of those guys, some of that stuff fits into the topic for today is that it's never too late. We think for some people,
Starting point is 00:06:13 they might think it's over as they get a little older. I hear really young people say it too. They're like, man, I'm 32, man, and this is falling apart and that's falling apart. I'm like, whoa, like 32 is very young. I think 42 is very young. I think 52 is still really young. You start getting in your like 60s and 70s
Starting point is 00:06:31 and then like we have to be like realistic about life expectancy. Like hopefully you make it past normal life expectancy and hopefully you make it to like 80 or 90. But even if you do and you're 60, you basically only have like 30, you know, you got three more decades to go if you're able to make his 90.
Starting point is 00:06:50 But even if you're in your 70s or even if you're in your 80s, it's still hate over. Like if you can move, if you can figure out a way to do a little something, then you could probably do a little more something and you probably can get yourself moving. And once you get yourself moving, we know motion is the lotion
Starting point is 00:07:07 and it's gonna help you to kind of continue to move, help you get out of pain. My mother-in-law is a really good example. I have some family members that are good examples. My mother-in-law is 74, I think. And she was diagnosed with diabetes probably 15 years ago. She's not overweight. She's been able to manage her body weight for a long time, She was diagnosed with diabetes probably 15 years ago. She's not overweight. She's been able to manage her body weight for a long time,
Starting point is 00:07:29 but she is diabetic. And so she has to watch her diet and pay attention to how much sugar and all that kind of stuff that she consumes or tries not to consume hardly any of it. And she lifts, you know, she got into lifting, she got into walking, she has a dog. You know, her and I talked about a lot of this stuff,
Starting point is 00:07:50 like, yeah, get a dog, you know, because the dog needs to be walked. And if you care and love for your dog, then you're probably gonna get that dog out at least once a day for a walk, hopefully. And so, yeah, she's been doing a lot of stuff like that, but I think there's so much to talk about on this topic, how should you train, I guess, how to get into training.
Starting point is 00:08:15 Like if you haven't trained in a long time, if you haven't like lifted weights since high school, if you haven't ran since high school, maybe we're gonna end up in a slightly different conversation than if we're talking about someone like myself or someone like Encima or someone like yourself, Andrew, who really what we did is just switch. We switched from a bunch, a couple things to a couple
Starting point is 00:08:39 other things, but all of it had to do with movement, nutrition, for a pretty long time, probably for two decades for you, right? Yeah, it's, I mean, I'm getting close, which is pretty cool to say because you think, well, I think, and I've been, I guess maybe it's been like my identity for a long time. It's like, oh, I'm still super new to all of this.
Starting point is 00:08:58 But you're right. It was a switch from this to that, but it was almost like, you know, those things online where it's like, oh, pick your starting lineup, but you only have five bucks. And like, everybody at the top, who's really good is like cost $4 and everybody at the bottom is a little bit cheaper. It was sort of like, I was giving all my money to like just trying to get jacked. And then now it's like, I kind of spread it everywhere. Like I use a dollar on all of it now. So even though it's a switch, I'm kind of doing more with a lot more efficiency.
Starting point is 00:09:27 So it's like the dollar goes a lot further now. And so that's been like super helpful in keeping me consistent with it. And even though I've been kind of nursing an injury, keeping myself injury free to the point where I can't do the thing I like to do. Now doing the thing I like to do is what got me injured competing in jujitsu, but the lifting, the exercise, all that didn't prevent me from doing jujitsu.
Starting point is 00:09:52 Yeah, I definitely have done powerlifting to the point where I'm limping around, hobbling around. I've done bodybuilding to the point where I'm limping around, hobbling around. I've done running to the point where I'm limping around, hobbling around and waddling everywhere. You know, and I really have worked on, yeah, just spreading everything out a little bit. Like it doesn't all have to happen in one day. Not everything has to be so intense. You saw me lifting today and I didn't lift like a complete sissy, but nothing I did was that hard. I did some like, I did some pushups, I did some squats,
Starting point is 00:10:28 I ended up pushing the weight a little bit on the squats. I ended up doing some kettlebell sumo deadlift type thing. But the point is is that the intensity is not so great or the volume's not so great that I'm gonna be debilitated in any way. I don't think that people really look at it that way. I think they just think like, oh, I'm going in there and this is what I need to do to get jacked or get in shape.
Starting point is 00:10:52 And they're not really thinking about, they're not thinking about the consequences. They're not really thinking about, it's kind of like the deep water, John Anderson, which I understand that mentality and that can be great and that can serve you at certain times, but I think it also can be a huge mistake because you wanna be able to do stuff day in and day out.
Starting point is 00:11:10 And if I come in here one day and say, hey, Andrew, let's go hit up a run and we're gonna do a 10 minute mile run, Andrew has the capacity to go do that. Might be breathing pretty hard, might be pretty tired. Even if I said nine minute, he can probably hang in there for, or we'll figure something out to get him to get him to do it for the day, but he doesn't run.
Starting point is 00:11:36 And I think that's the thing that you wanna try to do is you wanna be able to have capacities without necessarily even spending that much time doing other things because you should be what we would like to call, you should be fit. And being fit is a really important piece of the puzzle. So if you only work on being jacked or you only work on being strong, those are amazing things. And you should go after those things with everything you got if that's what your heart really desires. But if you find yourself banged up quite a bit, you're not really making the progress
Starting point is 00:12:08 that you want. You actually most likely want to be leaner and probably more fit. Yeah, that's funny. What you're talking about, like to open things up with, it is a weird perception or I'll say misconception. I was rolling with the dude and he was just like, oh, you know, just my old body. And he's going in on why he can't go as hard
Starting point is 00:12:32 or why he has to take a break, whatever it may be. I've told this story before, but I haven't gotten that quite in depth. It was just during like some drilling and he's kind of looking around like, you okay, you hurt, like you good? And he's like, yeah, yeah, you know, just an old body. And I was like, oh shit, like, well, how old are you?
Starting point is 00:12:47 And you know, I'm 39 and he's 35. And I'm like, whoa, like, well, I got four years on you. So like, let's keep moving. Come on, you're good, you're alive. And then you hear stuff that's been going around on the internet right now, saying that 38 years old is actually like, like midlife now. And I just think that a lot of people subscribe to like 30s old 40s old 50s like ancient now
Starting point is 00:13:14 it seems like and it just sucks because it limits what you believe you're capable of and it just puts out this like crazy misconception and it drops your expectations on what is actually doable. Now there's tons of examples there. We're gonna give out some extreme examples, but there's Mark Bell, there's a couple of other, you know, professional athletes out there that are doing stuff.
Starting point is 00:13:40 But the thing is it's like we limit ourselves, but also when these expectations are dropped pretty far down, we don't... We always kind of make things a negative. So, right, oh, I'm not supposed to be able to do that because I'm too old. But then somebody gets a hair up their ass and all of a sudden they start joining a gym. They join a rec league or whatever it is. And they're like, I'm the second coming
Starting point is 00:14:10 of Tom Brady. And then all of a sudden they go way out of proportion and they just, or they blow everything way out of proportion and they start trying to kill themselves. And then they get hurt and like, see, I told you. It's like, how can we can't do it both ways? You know, it's frustrating. Yeah. People, you know, they sign up ways, you know? It's frustrating. Yeah. People, you know, they sign up for, you know, softball or something like that. They sign up for a sport, which is amazing to sign up for a sport, but it's without any preparation and they go to do the sport and like, Oh my God, I tore my rotator cuff or
Starting point is 00:14:37 I tore my Achilles tendon, you know, playing pickleball or something like that. And it's like, well, you haven't like sprinted in a long time and you just asked your body to do all the stopping and starting. And maybe there should be a little bit of training, you know? And that's the great thing about the gym. As much as the gym sucks, like I totally understand why people hate the gym
Starting point is 00:14:58 because there's elements to it that suck, but there's amazing elements to it too. And the one element that is amazing is all the controllable variables. So if you want to condition your Achilles tendon, you can very easily do that with a bunch of different exercises in the gym. There's calf exercises you can do,
Starting point is 00:15:19 which are gonna help strengthen and lengthen the calves. It's gonna help strengthen your foot. In addition to that, you got lengthen the calves. It's going to help strengthen your foot. In addition to that, there's, you know, you got different machines for calves. You have, there's certain things you can do for like your shin. You don't necessarily need a gym for some of these things. Like you can do like plyos and you can do jumps and stuff.
Starting point is 00:15:38 But as we get older, you know, if you just observe, you just watch your kid or watch someone else's kid and they're bouncing around. I mean, they kind of run everywhere. They sort of jump everywhere. And they just like, they actually fall down a lot too. Like they fall down, they don't fall like by accident. Like we fall, it's like an accident. Like we trip and we fall, you know.
Starting point is 00:16:03 A kid might trip and fall kind of, but it looks, it's like an accident, like we trip and we fall, you know, a kid might trip and fall kind of, but it looks like it's on purpose, like they make it look clean when they fall. They stumble and they just trip on their own feet sort of, and then it just boom, and they pop right back up. We're not really used to any of that, but if you wanna have youth on your side, you should probably do a lot of the stuff that kids do,
Starting point is 00:16:23 all the way up until like 10 or 11 is when you start to see like, like, oh man, my boy doesn't do that anymore. He doesn't jump around quite as much. And as they get to be 12 and 13 and so on, that just dwindles out of them. And I think one of the reasons why that disappears from most people is kind of this idea
Starting point is 00:16:42 of like strength to weight ratio. I think when you're a little kid, you might not even really know why or whatever, but I think you're driven by your like physiology. I think physically you feel really good and you're excited and you just want to run across the room and you're picturing that you have a cape on like your favorite superhero and you're putting your arms out
Starting point is 00:17:03 and you're being a mad man and then you run and you like slam into the wall or something, you know, you just tend to like hit into a lot of stuff and you do a lot of kind of crazy shit when you're young. When you're older, you're like, ah, that's going to hurt, you know, because you're not, you're not like prepped for that. And I'm not saying that you should like, you know, sprint around and act crazy, but doing some of those activities like that sometimes, or doing it in a controlled environment like the gym, would be a great idea. Yeah, my son, it's wild.
Starting point is 00:17:34 He'll run in place or run throughout the house as fast as he possibly can. It's like, whoa, dude, that's insane. Cause like, I couldn't like run in place as fast as I can without really thinking about it, without being like, shoot, if I start to feel something like that's insane. Because I couldn't run in place as fast as I can without really thinking about it, without being like, shoot, if I start to feel something, that's going to be so embarrassing. Like, yeah, how'd you pop your hamstring? I was running in place.
Starting point is 00:17:53 But in the kitchen. Yeah. I think a lot of it has to do with, because you mentioned this before with your dad, he's like, man, I've been through a lot of stuff. Let me start seeking more comfort than the opposite. But do you think somebody has to actively seek discomfort in order to kind of maintain, I'll say their youth and have longevity?
Starting point is 00:18:18 I think you need to be a little bit uncomfortable because there's, what are older people do? Who's wearing these Hoka shoes? Who's wearing these Hoka shoes? Who's wearing these New Balance shoes? And old people are, they're cold, right? And they're all bundled up and they're not really getting the sunlight the way they used to.
Starting point is 00:18:38 And I think there's a lot of shit going on. I mean, I think that, for one, they're in pain and two, they might just feel cold. Like their body just doesn't really work the same way as it used to, but why doesn't it work the same way? That's the key thing to think about. What about your 13 year old son that goes out to the bus stop with no jacket on
Starting point is 00:18:59 and it's 30 degrees, right? Like, why do they do that? Who the hell knows why they do it actually, but they're able to regulate their own body temperature really well. Or your son who's like just still like a little boy, he jumps in the water, it could be cold, right? You go to the ocean, he doesn't care, he's shivering,
Starting point is 00:19:16 you're like, are you cold? And he's like, nope. And his teeth are shattering and everything or chattering, right? Yeah, skin turning blue and everything. Yeah, you're like, oh my God, it's like the water's like 55 degrees. I don't know what he's doing out there, but they're able to regulate their temperature
Starting point is 00:19:31 a lot better, but they also have a lot more exposure to that. You know, I just thought uncommon for like a couple of friends that I know that have kids, their kids are always naked, always naked. They hate clothes. They just, boom, take them off. I think my kids did some of that, but there's some kids that like, they just really hate clothes. That's where my son's at right now. And, you know, if you're 50 or 60, you know, walking down the street naked is probably not a great idea, but I do think you do need to be uncomfortable.
Starting point is 00:20:01 I think that covering up your feet in these like super padded shoes and stuff, I think is making things worse. You are, like your body is sort of calcifying, your body is slowing down, and you're kind of cushioning it, and you're kind of just trying to make that whole process more comfortable. But really what's gonna happen is,
Starting point is 00:20:26 like just where does it stop? Where does the comfort stop? You park as close to your, you park as close to the grocery store as possible. I mean, some people kind of unjustly get like handicapped things and stuff. It's like, hey, why don't you leave that for the people that really need that? But there's people that they It's like, hey, why don't you leave that for the people that really
Starting point is 00:20:49 need that. But there's people that they're just like, well, I can't walk, my feet hurt. And it's like, well, that's not the same as the others. Other people with different considerations that are different than just having your feet hurt. So I think that people, they need to kind of find like a resistance and sort of lean into it a little bit. And you need to do it gradually. You can't just, you don't want to do it out of nowhere. You know, the first place to start, if you have a backyard, you know,
Starting point is 00:21:15 the first place to start is just kick off your shoes. If you have some grass, go and ground, go and have your feet in the grass. And I realize certain areas of the country, like you can't do that certain times a year, but whenever you can do that, try to do that. That'll help toughen up and strengthen up your feet. And there's a lot of other things you can do.
Starting point is 00:21:36 You can get our sandals that we talk about all the time. They're available at markbelslingshot.com. Those are our Power Flex sandals. You want to find something that allows your foot to be a foot and not something that's getting so cushioned all the time. And you see that seeking comfort, whatever you wanna call it, everywhere.
Starting point is 00:21:59 Breakfast, right? I want my coffee to taste as good as possible. And I'm not saying, trust me, I'm not trying to be like, oh, drink black coffee if you want to be strong and fit or whatever, because I love making my coffee taste good too. But it doesn't stop there, right? It's like, oh, we're having ribs,
Starting point is 00:22:13 let me dump barbecue sauce on everything. Let me have the dessert on everything and all that good stuff, right? Every drink you have, every piece of food and everything that you do every day needs to be cushioned or exciting in some way or you can't do it or have it. Yeah, and so along with the the shoes and trying to kick your feet off, I think another really easy spot to get some wins and this I can't remember which guest talked about it,
Starting point is 00:22:42 but it was like, you know, if it is a little bit colder outside, just be okay with wearing a little bit less than the big, you know, huge jacket and that sort of thing. Just to make yourself a little bit uncomfortable, right? We're inside, we got the AC blasting, and so the second I go outside in weather that's 80 degrees, it's like, oh my gosh, it's so hot. I mean, and I know it gets to like 110 here in Sacramento. But we're not allowing ourselves to get used to the slight little discomforts. And that's super frustrating. How important is it though,
Starting point is 00:23:18 to have that sunlight hit your skin on a regular basis? Yeah, it's huge. I mean, we're learning more and more about this all the time, but the actual sun hitting your skin on a regular basis. Yeah, it's huge. I mean, we're learning more and more about this all the time but the actual sun hitting your skin, you're going to be able to, it's gonna help up your vitamin D levels naturally. And that's something that is really helpful to your immune system.
Starting point is 00:23:40 But the sun, just, I mean, there's like not, there's not a disease. There's not something you can mention to me where I don't think that the sun is like helpful. And some people are probably thinking, oh, cancer. Well, cancer, a lot of times, not all the time, there are, there's always outliers to everything, but you basically wanna try to have your skin
Starting point is 00:24:03 be conditioned to the sun to some degree. Even if you're super pale, you don't necessarily have to be able to handle like a UV of 10, which would be like you being outside in the middle of the day here in Northern California, in the middle of summer. You don't necessarily need to get your skin in condition to that, but you should be able to handle
Starting point is 00:24:22 the first two or three hours of the day and the last two or three hours of the day and the last two or three hours of the day where the UV is going, the UV index is going down quite a bit. The unfortunate thing is that we have like a weird relationship with the sun. People get all excited when it's summertime, some people want to like lay out by a pool
Starting point is 00:24:39 or by a body of water and they're like just bathing, like literally bathing in the sun. And that's not the worst thing in the world. If you already have kind of what's called like a solar callus, if you're already used to the sun, those can be, those can all be like decent ideas. But if you're very pale, then what people will do is they'll be like,
Starting point is 00:25:02 oh, you need like at least some sunscreen on because it's like you're kind of halfway guarding yourself from the sun while you're in this, like it just doesn't make any sense. And people aren't getting themselves accustomed to it or used to it. And so just the easiest thing in the world to do is just to pop outside occasionally.
Starting point is 00:25:21 Like every time you go outside, it shouldn't be like you're coming out of a movie theater. You know when you come out of the movie theater and it's like Saturday and it's still like morning or afternoon, it's like 2 p.m. or something and you're like, oh my God. It feels like it's burning you. Like a nuclear bomb went off. You're like, what's happening? You got to pee really bad.
Starting point is 00:25:43 Yeah. Yeah, Yeah. Yeah, exactly. And it shouldn't, it shouldn't be like that. You know, get yourself outside, you know, periodically throughout the day. The way that I usually do it is just through either like a walk or run. You don't have to run, but get outside and get some sun exposure. It's really, really important for your kids too.
Starting point is 00:26:04 Developing kids, kids that are really young, kids that are teenagers, really impactful for your hormones, your sex hormones in particular. We're just inside too much and sometimes people can make a big deal about the blue light and the blue light is a negative, but I would say the worst thing that you can do is to just completely get away from the sun and just be in the dark for too long. And it's not anything that you're not gonna, no one's gonna, there's gonna be some people maybe, but for the most part, people aren't gonna notice
Starting point is 00:26:39 it having like a huge impact right away. It's gonna be something that's gonna, it's gonna take time for that lack of sun exposure to be a negative influence on you. Yeah, and if you're listening and you're paying attention, if your feet are hurting and you continue to wear the soft squishy shoes, it's going to get worse. Who knows what, who knows what, what other, um, ailment you may have and you go outside into the sun and you have sunscreen on that ailments probably going to get worse. Right.
Starting point is 00:27:12 What other exposures that you can think of for somebody? Cause I mean, we're getting kind of like all over the place. The whole like idea was to try to kind of, you know, hold that longevity and, and, um, be an athlete as you age. But is there something else that you can think of that we're kind of told to avoid that really is like, we should probably go the opposite direction if we want to kind of maintain and hang on
Starting point is 00:27:34 to a little bit of this athleticism? Yeah, as I was mentioning earlier, just like resistance, you know, you need to find like, you need to like lift or you need to pick things up. I mentioned jumping earlier. I think, you know, I think, I think jumping and sprinting, I think these things are really important. Now, I don't really think that everyone
Starting point is 00:27:53 has to necessarily go outside and do a sprint, although I would really love if people did that. That would be great. And it's, what a cool capacity. I mentioned earlier capacity. I love that word. I love earlier capacity. I love that word. I love that term. I love what it means.
Starting point is 00:28:07 It means like, if I ask you to go do a sprint with me, you should be able to like do okay with it. You know, you should be able to run at like 90% of your fastest speed. I think that would be like reasonable. And be like, okay, cool. You did that for six or eight sets and you didn't get hurt. Then that's a great workout.
Starting point is 00:28:25 But there's other ways to do it. You can do that on an elliptical. You could do that on a bike. You can do that with a ski erg. I mean, you could do that with a rower. There's just like so many other options, so many other places where you can do some of these things. But yeah, I think, you know, jumping is like,
Starting point is 00:28:43 no one really jumps. It's rare for someone to even do something like step ups or lunges. These are just, they're not like, they're not necessarily that associated with the gym, although that's where we kind of put them, but squatting, deadlifting, and I don't really mean squatting and deadlifting
Starting point is 00:29:02 like barbells necessarily, just some form of squatting, some form of deadlifting. I think these things are important, especially for people that just aren't moving that much. Picking up sandbags, maybe wearing a weighted vest on a walk, making your walks a little bit more intense so you can kind of keep that bone density up. But where I see people sort of falling apart the worst
Starting point is 00:29:26 is their bodies, their spines and stuff are getting very stiff. Their range of motion is getting more and more limited as they get older. And that continues to get a little worse every day. And a lot of times it just kind of gets swept under the rug kind of over and over again. So people will, they'll train around it
Starting point is 00:29:45 and they'll be like, ah yeah, my shoulder's falling apart but they're not really trying to address it. And it's understandable because they're in pain. And so it makes sense, but there's a lot of older people that are out there doing it and they're doing a great job of it and they figured out how to navigate it. And the whole point of this podcast today is like, I think you can figure it out too.
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Starting point is 00:31:22 And then he came back and played for the wizards, right? And then when he retired, retired, he was 40 years old. LeBron James is about to be 40 years old in December. Those look like two completely different athletes at that age. Yeah, just redefining the age, right? Yeah. So you have somebody like LeBron James on this side of the spectrum that spends, you know, over a million dollars in making sure that his body works the way he needs it. And then you have the other side of the spectrum, which is unfortunately like a typical adult
Starting point is 00:31:54 that doesn't pay any attention to it. When somebody's on this side of the spectrum where they don't pay attention to it, getting them to really do anything seems like a big chore, but do they have to think about this every day in everything they do? Like where do you think is a good starting grounds for taking care of their body? Being in shape and being out of pain
Starting point is 00:32:24 will probably be the most important job that you ever do. Because you can't really do anything else for anybody if that's compromised too much. And so as ridiculous as some of that might sound, it's a job and you have to take it very seriously. It can be difficult. Like we like to try to, as fitness people, we like to try to say like, oh you know we can try to take it very seriously. It can be difficult. Like we like to try to, as fitness people, we like to try to say like, oh, we can try to make it a little easier. You're just going a couple of walks and stuff,
Starting point is 00:32:51 but it can be very difficult. It can get easier because you can get used to it. But how is that process of getting used to jujitsu? Like it's a bear, right? Like it's hard getting used to powerlifting. Like I don't really remember, because I did it when I was so young, which is another thing to pass on to your children,
Starting point is 00:33:11 have them do tough things when they're young and they won't even really remember how tough they were. They'll just know how to swing a baseball bat, don't know how to throw a baseball, and they'll know how to catch a football. They won't really remember all the times that the football bounced off their face or hit, you ever have the football,
Starting point is 00:33:29 it's hit your finger that weird way and it jams your finger like that, it hurts so bad. They won't really remember all the pitches they got hit by when they're trying to play baseball and stuff like that. And so trying to learn stuff when you're younger can be really useful, but it's a full-time job trying to manage your weight, trying to manage your nutrition. I mean, for the most part, we know what we're dealing with. Most people are just getting heavy,
Starting point is 00:33:55 right? They're gaining a lot of body fat. And when they gain a lot of body fat, there's not necessarily muscle mass that goes along with it. And so they're getting fatter and they're getting weaker because you're adding more and more weight to a frame and to a structure that's not any larger. We do know that through some overload training that you can get some pretty good results in terms of bone density, especially like if it's over a long period of time.
Starting point is 00:34:24 And so if you have a more dense skeletal system, it will be a little easier for you to carry around a little extra weight, all the more reason, you know, just one more reason to lift. So lifting is unbelievable for many different reasons. But when we start to look at some of the athletes that we have on this list today, every single one of them has, you know, they have these movement practices, they have these lifting practices, they have some practices that allow them
Starting point is 00:34:58 to do these things day in and day out. And that's the thing, as you were mentioning, like does it have to be done, you know, kind of every day? And that's just because we say it needs to be done every day doesn't mean to not do it. If you don't think you'd have time to do certain things every day. What I mean by this needs to be done every day
Starting point is 00:35:13 is I mean that you need to do something every day. And you could have a list of 20 different things and you could only do one of them every day. Then you would be checking off your boxes. It doesn't have to happen. You don't have to do rope flow and something from the ATG app and pull-ups and lunges and squats and have your nutrition perfect
Starting point is 00:35:38 all in one day. That could be spread out over the course of five, six, seven, eight days, something like that. Yeah, you're building up these habits that today seem, one of them seems impossible or difficult, but then down the road, 10 of them you just do without even realizing it. Something else I just wanted to point out that,
Starting point is 00:35:57 I don't know, man, right, there's a lot of us that are in pain, but I just find this stuff interesting because now I'm almost this age and it's just a weird perspective. But when I remember Cal Ripken Jr., like the Iron Man, that was his thing. He played all 21 seasons of his career. Like, dude, that guy is at least a thousand years old, right?
Starting point is 00:36:20 He retired at 41. Wow. I'm like, whoa, wait a second. And then we were joking off air about Robert Parrish. He retired at 41. Wow. I'm like, whoa, wait a second. And then we were joking off air about Robert Parrish. So pretty old now, but he played for the Boston Celtics. Again, I think he was like the oldest player like ever in the league or he had the most games or something.
Starting point is 00:36:36 I forgot what the record was. He was only 43. Oh, wow. And I thought he was like at least like 70, you know, like he looked that old. And so like, I don't know, man, I think we're just going in both directions pretty drastically. I think people are getting older and they're getting in better shape.
Starting point is 00:36:52 And then people are younger in worse shape now. It's kind of a bummer. It's tough, you know, I think Andrew, we're just like in our own world. And you and I, you know, we, and in SEMA, we have this show and we talk to a lot of people in fitness and our feed, you know, we, and in SEMA, we have the show and we talk to a lot of people in fitness and our feed, you know, on Instagram and everything else is kind of full of fitness stuff.
Starting point is 00:37:11 Your wife loves fitness and SEMA's girlfriend loves fitness. My wife loves fitness. Our brother loves fitness. Like we're really surrounded by it. And we have some people in our lives that like, they're not obsessed with it, but they, at least, they're probably, it's least on their radar. They're trying, they're working on it like, they're not obsessed with it, but they at least are probably, it's least on their radar.
Starting point is 00:37:26 They're trying, they're working on it. Maybe they're not doing a great job, but they have some activities. But you get completely just, like you got hit by like a rod of lightning when you go to the airport, or when you go to Walmart or Target or a fair or something like that, you know, in the summertime.
Starting point is 00:37:51 And then you're just like, wow, like, man, these people are just, it's not even just so much just like body fat. It's just a combination of, you're like, I, and I'm not trying to shame people necessarily, but I do think there's, I do think it's a shame. Like it literally is a shame to not take advantage
Starting point is 00:38:12 of the gifts that you have. Being like a human being, being a person is fucking awesome. And I think that you should do the best job you can to take advantage of that. That doesn't mean you need to be ripped or shredded or anything. I don't mean anything like that. What I mean though is I think it is,
Starting point is 00:38:29 I mean, we all have some strength in us. We all have, and you're just gonna abuse that and let that just not ever turn into anything. You're just gonna like, you're just gonna get weaker and weaker and fatter and fatter until the day you die. Like I just can't, that doesn't compute well with me. I don't understand that.
Starting point is 00:38:47 And I think that that is, uh, I think it's like a slap in the face to whatever creator we have. Like there's some sort of creator, some, something has created human beings. I don't know what it is or where it comes from, but I think it's the greatest thing ever created or invented or whatever words you want to try to use. It's the most complex thing. We understand a lot of stuff about a lot of different things, but we don't understand the human body. We have some understandings of some of the shit on how some of it works. But man, it is like the more you dive into it and the more you learn about biomechanics or the more you learn
Starting point is 00:39:25 about just the human body, the more you're like, wow, we don't know shit. And so to me, I'm like, man, how is it? I do understand like bad habits. I understand like, you know, getting a little overwhelmed with stuff. But what I don't understand is just like, you can't go on a walk a couple times a week overwhelmed with stuff. But what I don't understand is just like you can't go on a walk a Couple times a week and get outside, you know, I just think there's these things that are So simple to do that if you're not doing them, I think you're cheating yourself That's very well said like we were talking the other day about um
Starting point is 00:40:05 You know, I'm watching my son turn into, you know, his little self, a human. And I'm like, I didn't do that. You know what I mean? Like, obviously I'm not saying that like somebody else, you know, is his father. I'm saying like, obviously, yes, you know, my wife and I conceived this kid and he's grown up and he's our child, but I'm like,
Starting point is 00:40:24 he's doing stuff that like I can never like, how do you like, he's way, way more capable than I'll ever be at certain things already. Like there's something else at play here. So what you're saying there is like pretty powerful. I hope, hope, you know, hope that caught with somebody. But the thing that does get me also, if you're, if you're in pain, you're unhappy, you don't like the way you look in the mirror and the habits or the, whatever it is, the if you're in pain, you're unhappy, you don't like the way you look in the mirror and the habits or the whatever it is, the food you're eating, the movement patterns,
Starting point is 00:40:50 all this stuff led you there and you don't like it. And tomorrow you do the same thing and the following and so on and so forth. You know, you eventually have to wake up. How do you help somebody wake up? Like what do you tell a loved one that's going down the same path? How do you have that conversation?
Starting point is 00:41:12 Yeah, I think the first thing is, yeah, you have to communicate with that person or communicate with someone that's close to them. Because sometimes someone else might be a better communicator. You come in there guns blazing, then that might not work. So who's going to carry the boats? Yeah. I think, uh, having some grace for people and, uh, suggestions,
Starting point is 00:41:33 recommendations, but also just simply asking the question if they even want to have the conversation, like they might not be ready. They might not want to do it. Like I said earlier, like I understand why people hate the gym. Like it's, I said earlier, like I understand why people hate the gym. I sometimes hate it too. I just, I guess I know what it's gonna feel like and I love the feeling of like just doing an all out set of like lateral raises or some shit or, you know.
Starting point is 00:42:01 And I also like developed a skill with it and then it makes me feel good, right? But I understand like why for some people they'd never really had that great of a gym experience and they probably haven't really had it make them feel good. Plus the other thing that sucks about the gym is the recipe for hypertrophy and the recipe for strength is a long one
Starting point is 00:42:24 and somewhat of a complex one. And it can take a lot of time. In the beginning, when you first start though, one of the cool things about the gym is that anything works in the beginning. You'll gain a little bit of muscle size from just going to the gym and like dicking around, just messing around in some different machines
Starting point is 00:42:44 and messing around with different things you saw, someone else do an Instagram clip, and you'll look at your shoulder and you'll be like, oh wow, there's like a little, there's a tiny little maybe, if I get the right lighting, maybe there's something there, you know? And so you'll see some small changes, but eventually over time, it does take a long time.
Starting point is 00:43:07 If you're trying to end up with a great physique, it takes a long time. It takes like a minimum of 10 years. You're trying to acquire great strength, takes 10 years. However, it doesn't take 10 years to be able to do a couple pull-ups. It doesn't take 10 years to be able to do a couple pushups for most people.
Starting point is 00:43:26 It doesn't take 10 years to be able to do some lunges. It doesn't, you know, and for each person, sometimes things need to be scaled because of where someone's starting. But there's a lot of just like little fundamental things you should be able to do. I think they're important, especially when we start to look at some of these monsters.
Starting point is 00:43:45 Like see if you can bring up a clip of Mark Felix. If you click on maybe the video, I don't know if I sent you the, I did send you the video. Yeah, so let's just check out this video. This is sick. He's 34. We don't need audio.
Starting point is 00:44:01 Yeah, Mark is, he's probably around 58 or 59 years old now. Long time competitor and strong man. An absolute monster. You know, and then people can kind of look at this and they'll be like, oh, well, he's, you know, it's probably genetic, this guy's like, cause he is just, he's massive. He's massive.
Starting point is 00:44:23 But people can kind of blame stuff on whatever they want. The fact is, is that this guy kept himself moving for a really long time. He's a legendary strongman. He's one of my favorite athletes. He just is like, he's ridiculous. Has the biggest freaking hands ever. He's just a massive, massive guy.
Starting point is 00:44:43 He's still competing? I think he just retired massive, massive guy. He's still competing? I think he just retired. Oh my God. Oh shoot, he's 50. Oh my God. Here he is in 2023. 58. Yeah, I mean, he probably still is competing to some capacity.
Starting point is 00:44:56 Yeah, 58 years old. And also like he's been doing this for a long time too. So it's not like he hasn't been doing this that long. But these guys, they're doing it every day. The discipline of the food, the discipline of the mobility work. I'm sure he's been hurt a zillion times. Obviously, nowadays it's hard to talk about age without talking about performance enhancing drugs.
Starting point is 00:45:29 That's gonna be kind of the first thing that people wanna talk about. But I think that is easily answered and easily talked about via understanding, yes, strongman athletes do use performance enhancing drugs. But secondly, if you're 50 and you don't feel great, that's something that you can look into these days. You can go to a TRT clinic,
Starting point is 00:45:53 you can check out Merrick Health and see if that's something that maybe you need. I don't think everyone needs steroids though. And I think that main topic for today is, try to stay that, you know, main topic for today is try to stay on topic, but the main topic for today is to talk about like what you can do. Like what are the simple things you can do? Not just like blast testosterone or anything like that.
Starting point is 00:46:16 That can be something that can be effective. And it's, you know, everybody wants to talk about it all the time. I just did a podcast a couple days ago from my house. Somebody was interviewing me and my wife was like, man, that whole show is about steroids. I was like, that's all anybody ever wants to talk about. It's everyone's favorite topic.
Starting point is 00:46:36 And I do think there's appropriate places for people to sometimes use some of these things. But anyway, I think that we can lift, you know, we can lift basically for the rest of our lives. You can bodybuild, you could certainly do something like bodybuilding forever. You know, will Mark Felix be able to like, you know, do the stone loading and all this other shit
Starting point is 00:46:57 like for super long? Maybe not, you know, after a while his back or something might just not want him to do some of those movements But hopefully he replaces those movements with other movements that still allow his back and his body to be strong Yeah, and then in some of those competitions, you know, it showed 2023 or 24 where he was his oldest that he was I'm still moving around a lot and I don't know I could be way off on this, but I feel like if you're just blasting steroids,
Starting point is 00:47:27 like everyone assumes, like it's not helping you be agile. You know what I mean? No, it does not help you be a better mover. Yeah. I mean, almost everything I know about them would say the opposite of that really. Yeah, and he's moving. So he is, I mean, he's literally moving, you know, like moving, moving.
Starting point is 00:47:46 You can't inject that skill or that attribute, right? Right. And that's why you want to try to focus on like more than just, you know, straight up just regular lifting. I think some strong man has some application because of the fact that they're not only just like picking stuff up, but they're picking stuff up and moving it. See if you can pull up, Sean Baker is a great example. Dr. Sean Baker, he's the guy that popularized the carnivore diet. Dr. Baker pretty much just eats steak and some ground meat and some eggs, Dr. Baker pretty much just eats steak and some ground meat and some eggs. And he doesn't really eat anything else.
Starting point is 00:48:28 And he has some like world records on the rower. He's an absolute beast. I forget how far he rose and what the time is or whatever, but it's just something ridiculously insane. Whatever it is, it's a world record. Yeah, he's a fucking nutcase. And I want to say he's probably about 60 years old, right? He's almost there if not, he is because yeah,
Starting point is 00:48:53 just an animal and he trains super hard. He does a lot of explosive movements too. Stuff that would- More recently he's doing plyos and he's doing jumping stuff and he's talking about how he wants to You know be a better mover Yeah stuff he does stuff that would really like I I would have to think about it for a while Like i'd have to really scale it down
Starting point is 00:49:14 Or else my body would um It would just it would hurt I think he's got the right idea though. Like, you know, um He's you know doing explosive movements. He's working on running faster. He's working on jumping higher. He has kept the Olympic lifts in there. He's a guy that does, he used to do like Highland games type stuff.
Starting point is 00:49:35 And so I think he's always been a fan of basically training like a track athlete. This is the way track athletes train. And, you know, doing these, doing like little hops and all these different things, they're not hard to do. This is the way track athletes train. Doing like little hops and all these different things, they're not hard to do. You don't even have to jump up onto anything, what you're seeing Dr. Baker do, but sometimes jumping up on something gives you a good goal,
Starting point is 00:49:59 but you can do like pogo hops and stuff too, where you just are literally jumping in place. But you could see here Dr. Baker going all out on a sprint. He's into that, and so is Stan Efferding. Efferding's into, he loves doing sprints. Dr. Baker does a lot of sprints. I think it's not uncommon for him in a workout to do like 20 sets of sprints.
Starting point is 00:50:24 I'm just laughing at how small he makes that assault bike. It looks comical. It's like, what is he doing? And he doesn't look like he's like going that nuts on it, but like, you know, he's, Yeah, he's probably breaking the calibration on all that. And he's another, He's like jumping right out of his house.
Starting point is 00:50:41 Yeah. So he's around 60 years old. No TRT, just carnivore. Yep. And he's like jumping right out of his house. Yeah, so he's around 60 years old, no TRT, just carnivore. Yep, and he's like 6'5". He's a mutant. But yeah, you brought up Stan, let me pull him up. Yeah, the Rhino, Stan Efforting. Stan Efforting was breaking all time world records in powerlifting in his late 40s. He was probably the age that I am right now, I'm 47.
Starting point is 00:51:04 And Stan is probably 57 or 58, I believe. So I have a video of him just doing some leg extensions and he's just still striated. Yep. Just a monster. Always shredded. And his numbers in powerlifting, he did a 837, maybe he did a higher deadlift,
Starting point is 00:51:30 but in one competition I know he did the 837 deadlift, he did a 606 bench and like an 881 squat. He was just an absolute monster. Broke the all time world record at the 308 weight class and 275 weight class just a beast the creator of the vertical diet and Does he have the world record for yelling the loudest? Oh, yeah making the most making the most noise. Mm-hmm Stan's also a fan of sprints. He'll like, you know sprint. He has a treadmill. He'll like sprint on a treadmill or he will,
Starting point is 00:52:09 he doesn't do that much sprinting outside, I don't think, but he will do stairs and stuff like that. So each person has to figure out like what's gonna work well for them. What's gonna feel good for them. For me, I sprint and I mess around with that here and there, but it's best for me to, if I'm gonna mess around with the sprint, it's best for me to have a hill.
Starting point is 00:52:25 Because a hill is just like way less risk of injury. Slows you down quite a bit. Yeah, so then something like the stealth sled might be pretty good. Yeah, yeah, pushing into the sled or any of that kind of stuff is, yeah, or dragging a sled. Yeah, dragging a sled behind you is great because it's gonna slow you down too. So those are all really good ideas.
Starting point is 00:52:48 But I think that people think, you know, at the age of like 40, like shit's over with. And it's really just a start, I think. My wife's in the best shape of her life. I feel like I'm in the best shape of my life. I mean, I know a lot of other people that are our age that are really taking a lot of like pride in it. I think the cool thing, hopefully for some people,
Starting point is 00:53:10 as you get older, you just end up in a different place. Hopefully you acquired like some money, like maybe you're not like have crazy amount of money, but hopefully when you're 50, you have more money than when you were 20. Most of the time when you're 50, you have more money than when you were 20. Most of the time when you're 20, you're pretty broke. And it might be harder as you're trying to build your career when you're 25, 30, when you're 35,
Starting point is 00:53:37 might be like, those might be like sticky areas where it's like a little harder for you to spend as much time training. But what I see from people that are like 50, 55, they're able to spend more time or at least make it more of a priority, I should say, with going on walks and being active and taking their nutrition seriously.
Starting point is 00:54:00 You know, you mentioned earlier about having a conversation with the relative and I ended up getting a little off track on some of that. But what I wanted to mention there was to try to figure out what they like to do. What's something that they like to do? I think if we start with activity, if we start with activity or movement,
Starting point is 00:54:20 it may be easier than starting out with diet. I found that diet kind of means that you are investigating someone's life and you're judging someone's life. And when you start to tell them like, hey, you should try a carnivore diet or you should, it's way too much sometimes to get into with some people.
Starting point is 00:54:39 Even though a carnivore diet seems to really help like 99 or 98% of autoimmune disorders, even though a carnivore diet seems to really help like 99 or 98% of autoimmune disorders, people still don't wanna give it a go, even though it seems like it can be really helpful for a lot of people. But I understand some of the resistance when it comes to diet, because it's tough. It's not an easy thing to do,
Starting point is 00:55:02 but there should be a little less resistance when it comes to movement. So what does someone like to do? Do they like yoga? Just encourage more of that. That's cool. You did yoga last year. Have you had an opportunity to go anytime this year?
Starting point is 00:55:18 You kind of fell off on it. That would be amazing if you got back into that. That would be a good start. I personally am not a fan of yoga. I don't think it really provides a ton of value, but people like it, they enjoy it. That's just my own like whatever with it, but it's an activity, right?
Starting point is 00:55:37 And not only is it an activity, it's something that you're doing with a community of people. And that's great for people to say, oh, hi, Sally here, and they're there every Tuesday night or whatever. And you get to meet people and then those people, they're happy when they see you, you're happy when you see them. And then you have coffee with those people
Starting point is 00:55:56 and you hang out with those people and those people say, hey, you ever tried this diet? I've been doing this for three weeks and I was finally able to lose some weight and then person's like, oh my God, and then that and I was finally able to lose some weight and then person's like, oh my God, and then that's how you are able to gain momentum. So try to find something that you like. Did you used to like to ride your bike?
Starting point is 00:56:12 Did you, and you don't have a bike anymore or whatever. It's not easy to like get into stuff. It's not easy to figure out like, where do I even go for a bike? I haven't had a bike since I was a kid. You're going to have to go to a know here in Davis. There's bikes everywhere But yeah, find something, you know find something that someone likes and hopefully they can start with that I think movement is the first place to start though because I think it's a little easier to just say okay You like walking or you like it enough
Starting point is 00:56:45 to where you can listen to a podcast. You said you can commit to 30 minutes of walking a day. How about 30 minutes of walking every day for 30 days? So just like, let's just see what happens with it. A lot of times, once someone does that, they're gonna start to have other questions. They're not gonna wanna put that effort in and then have like no results.
Starting point is 00:57:07 Most likely, they will probably actually lose a little bit of weight if they weren't really moving that much before just from that activity. And I don't think that's too much to ask. Being able to handle the stresses of your day, the stress of exercise, and being able to stick to your nutrition plan
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Starting point is 00:58:18 Yeah, I mean, walking, if they're able to handle some walking, you just want to be careful you don't overdo the walking because walking can actually put you in a lot of pain too. If you walk too much, it can kind of stiffen up your body quite a bit. I think walking is a great movement. I think we're learning a lot about rope flow over here. I really think that that's a great movement.
Starting point is 00:58:40 Really just, again, getting on a bike is a good idea. There's just so many options. I think probably the most underrated piece of equipment, well, it's not really underrated. I guess it gets made fun of the most, is elliptical machine. It's the greatest piece of cardio equipment ever created by a long shot. And the reason is, is that you can use the hell piece of cardio equipment ever created by a long shot. And the reason is, is that you can use the hell out of that thing.
Starting point is 00:59:09 You can use it all the time. It's not going to make you sore. It's not going to hurt anything. It's like impossible. You know what I mean? Like the, maybe getting on and off it for some people might be a little weird. But for the most part, it's so smooth. So there's like pretty low impact.
Starting point is 00:59:26 You're going to sweat your ass off on there. That's something like that could be great. Way better than running, I think. And probably in a way, I can't say it's better than walking just because you're going to be walking outside. But if you could use the elliptical outside, which they have elliptical trainers that you I've seen people around here in Davis use, they're like moving on the sidewalk or whatever. But anyway, elliptical is absolutely incredible and I think that that could be a great place for a lot of people to start that are in pain. Yeah. I'm trying to formulate my thoughts around the benefits of the assault bike, but I know
Starting point is 01:00:06 that that thing's pretty spicy, right? Like it bites back at you, but if you have access to an assault bike, it doesn't take much time. It takes a lot of effort, but it doesn't take time to just annihilate yourself. You just hit the button that says intervals. It'll say something like 2010 in like the number eight. And you just click start and for 20 seconds you're on, 10 seconds you're off.
Starting point is 01:00:32 And then it'll just go, it does that for eight rounds. I'm not good at math, but you end up with like less than five minutes of work and you are thrashed. I just feel like anybody can work that into their day, no matter the busiest person in the world has an additional three and a half minutes to do this quick interval session.
Starting point is 01:00:51 And for me, my quads are burning for like 10 minutes afterwards. Changes your mood instantly too. Instantly. Yeah, makes you, I mean, just makes you feel better in general. So I think that, you know, we talked about kind of a lot of habits here today.
Starting point is 01:01:10 Obviously there's a lot of different things to get into. But I think just to give a little recap before we get into some of these other athletes, I think, you know, walking is critical. Some form of resistance is critical. When I say critical, it doesn't mean that you absolutely have to do it, but I would strongly recommend that you
Starting point is 01:01:29 do it. And there's different versions of it. A lot of people might not even know, but like you can just throw on a weighted vest and do a lot of different stuff. Like you don't, we don't really, I don't always love the idea of the gym because the gym associates people with like time and things just being a time suck. I think some people like that about the gym. I actually always liked that about the gym. It's kind of a nice distraction.
Starting point is 01:01:56 You drive, you know, 15, 20 minutes to somewhere and then you're there for an hour, hour and a half and then you drive. Like I really have always liked it kind of for that reason, but I understand that maybe not everybody loves it for that reason, but there's so many other things you can do. Exercise can be done almost anywhere. So I would strongly recommend looking into getting
Starting point is 01:02:20 some sort of weighted vest, walking around with a weighted vest that is maybe about 10% of your body weight is totally reasonable. It doesn't have to be crazy heavy. So if you weigh 200 pounds, you want a vest that's like 20 pounds. That would be a great place to start. Some sprints here or there could be a really good idea.
Starting point is 01:02:38 These are all things that help keep you kind of young and spry. I'm trying to think of some of the things I do to keep myself out of pain and probably number one is just the way that I train. Like the way that you train is gonna dictate how fucked up you get. And for me, the careful planning of training is important.
Starting point is 01:03:05 Just being cautious and of training is important. Just being cautious and being careful is huge. But then the second thing that helps me a lot with pain is just myofascial release stuff, which we talked about forever. And I guarantee you, Tom Brady and some of these other great athletes that played into their forties and even beyond just their early 40s
Starting point is 01:03:26 they Have taken time to either get massages done have someone else work on their soft tissue or they have You know done some of their own myofascia release Yeah, Tom Brady was 45 when you retired damn, dude And still winning Super Bowls and stuff, you know? Yeah. Which is unheard of for like that position and stuff too, right? Like, you know, football, football players are sort of done at like 30, 35, you know, somewhere in that range. 35
Starting point is 01:03:58 for an offensive player that's not a lineman is, uh, is five years too old. He had a really good run. You got your money's worth with that athlete. Yeah, absolutely. But yeah, here he is. I mean, so on the Buccaneer, so this would have been his final season, right? Or I don't know if you played two with him, but I mean, he's getting hit. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:04:19 It looks like he's still having a great time. He is getting first downs and running with the football and all that stuff. See if you can bring up Nick Best. Nick Best is probably close to 60 at this time too. I got to get some of these guys on the podcast. Nick Best, I think he still runs a podcast with John Anderson and John Anderson is like in his fs. Oh, okay. Yeah, I did have this pulled up. Yeah. Nick Best. Yeah, he was on a show on the History Channel where they had a bunch
Starting point is 01:04:53 of strongman athletes on there, but he's an all-time great. He's a legend in the sport. I think he's out in Las Vegas. Great lifter, great strongman athlete, absolute beast, still doing it into his, you know, I think again, I think he's getting to be like 60 years old. And it's just crazy to see these guys, you know, lifting these weights and doing these things. But you know, on Instagram too, you see all kinds of athletes,
Starting point is 01:05:22 all kinds of different people doing all kinds of amazing stuff at later ages. And one of the things that we're not really talking that much about, but we should make sure that we talk about it is, and some of these athletes, they might not really adhere to some of this, but I would imagine like Brady and some of these other guys probably have,
Starting point is 01:05:42 is movement is critical. So I mentioned my old fashion release and some of these other guys probably have is movement is critical. So I mentioned myofascial release and I mentioned running and lifting and these different things, but you wanna try to figure out a way to improve your movement and your movement practice. You want movement to be a practice. You wanna get better at movement.
Starting point is 01:06:01 And that's why, and Seema and myself and Andrew, we're starting to fall in love with this idea of the rope flow stuff is because it really feels like it unwinds your body. It feels like in some way it's a form of like decompression of the spine. I don't think that it actually decompresses your spine necessarily, like hanging upside down would
Starting point is 01:06:23 or something like that but it just feels it feels really good it feels different it doesn't feel like the same old compression that you get from doing like a heavy deadlift or something like that. Then let me pull up one of the goats so George Foreman was see how old he was 48 when he retired. Damn. What trips me out about him is it's like, yeah, he fought Muhammad Ali and Evander Holyfield. It's just insane to me.
Starting point is 01:06:54 Man, he was unbelievable. And yeah, he came back, I think he was like making his run again when he was like mid-40s. And he retired at 48. And look at him freaking bouncing around the ring and all that stuff and like, I don't know, it was just kind of funny back then because they always talked about like what a big boy he was and that he was like almost trying to make it out like he's fat and okay he's in the ring with Evander Holyfield who's shredded But Foreman certainly doesn't look fat. It's just great how high up he's got the trunks.
Starting point is 01:07:27 Yeah. He's doing the fit chick thing. That's, yeah, yeah, he invented that. He invented Lululemon. And how big were his forearms? Yeah, supposedly he had like 18 inch forearms. And so that's why he did that. Yeah, what do you call that
Starting point is 01:07:45 yeah i guess it's like kind of almost like it's like uh it's like peekaboo version of like what mayweather did without the peek of the boo yeah no because he's just doing this because like uh mayweather would do that but mayweather would do that and he would shield his whole body like that's like the Philly shell, right? Yeah. And so it's called. Yeah. But he, but Foreman is like, boom, boom. He's just like, you're not going to hit me.
Starting point is 01:08:10 Yeah. And I think that he doesn't care if he gets hit because like you're just hitting his arms and then it just makes you tired. But I just, Evander Holyfield underrated, I think. Not, not a, oh my gosh. I gotta rewind this. Yeah. I mean, boxing was so good back then. It was just great. It was so good.
Starting point is 01:08:33 You got your money's worth back in the day with boxing. Yeah, you did. And- Oh my gosh. Yeah, foreman can take, he can take some shots. This is early in the fight, right? Third round. Third round, yeah.? Third third round. Yeah, damn
Starting point is 01:08:46 Golly. Yes. Yeah, I wasn't I mean, I don't even know what year this was. George Foreman's also He's also a heavier guy, you know, so not only is any he just put his head down Not only is in his 40s But he's probably 260 270 That's pretty wild. How big he looks right there. He's a monster. Look at that. Shhh. Looks like he's wearing a barrel, like for shorts.
Starting point is 01:09:13 Mm-hmm. He kind of is. You know, a lot's been made of recently, you know, people talking a lot about Hugh Jackman and, you know, there's people talking about, they're using special effects or whatever on how ripped he was for the new Wolverine, Deadpool versus, or Deadpool and Wolverine or whatever the hell the name of the movie is.
Starting point is 01:09:40 He's looking absolutely shredded in the movie, which is the main thing to kind of hone in on But how he got there is you know the obsession Everybody has such such an obsession of how he did it and I'll tell you how he did it He did it with a fucking diet. That's very hard to follow He may have used performance enhancing drugs But Even if he did use performance enhancing drugs, he still was on a diet that sucked. That's the only way to get that shredded.
Starting point is 01:10:10 Like we don't know anybody. I've never met, I never met one person that they're like, they did a bodybuilding show or something and they're like, yeah, I just did steroids and I lifted. Right? It's like, no, man, like your diet still needs to be nuts. And I mean, if steroids alone worked, you wouldn't hear of like Chris Bumpstead only having like 12 or 1300 calories
Starting point is 01:10:35 for the last couple of weeks getting ready for a show. So they obviously work, but again, I just, I like to address it because people just talk about it incessantly. So it's always good to address it and put it out there. But this is an older guy getting great shape. And if you want to complain about him doing steroids, you can take them too. Go find somebody, you know, go to the gym, find the biggest meathead and say, Hey, no, I'm just kidding.
Starting point is 01:11:04 Don't do that. But. But maybe. Maybe, and you definitely know the guy already. You know, someone else that I'm a huge fan of is Joe Rogan. Joe Rogan is a fucking badass. Black belt in jujitsu, strong as fuck. Trains hard, a lot of kettlebell training, has great mobility. I think I saw like not too long ago where he was like kicking a bag or something like that.
Starting point is 01:11:35 It was just like vicious. It's like, oh my God. I mean, I think he like has one of the strongest kicks in like recorded history or something. So yeah, he, he has an insane kick. I, uh, I forgot which one it was, but yeah, it's, it's to the point where he can like actually advise like UFC fighters and they will pay attention to him. I think this was a couple of years ago when he was following your advice and did the carnivore diet. Yeah. He looks amazing. And you know, he always looks great. I think he
Starting point is 01:12:06 always has, you know, a good amount of muscle on him. I think it's great that Joe Rogan and Dana White morphed into the same person at some point. I think it's being from Massachusetts and all that and being jacked and Italian. Maybe he did that for them. But I think Joe Rogan is incredible, you know, for a lot of different reasons, but he's somebody that obviously he prioritizes mobility, right? Because I think martial arts are just so amazing because they bake that in, right? Yeah, you have no choice. Like if you're, I mean, you can be stiff and figure out like a different style of game, but not going to be very good. No, you're, I mean, you can be stiff and figure out like a different style of game, but Not going to be very good.
Starting point is 01:12:48 No, you're going to get hurt. You're going to, you're going to run into a situation where you're like, yep, I need a little bit more than what I have. And then you're going to try to obtain it. And you're like, I need a little bit more. Right? Because then you start like understanding the game essentially. Yeah. little bit more, right? Cause then you start like understanding the game essentially. Yeah. Yeah. And so Joe Rogan, someone I admire, I mean,
Starting point is 01:13:07 I think that Joe's gotta be 57, 58. He's pretty old. He's gotta be getting up there. Again, the cool thing is for a lot of these people, it's like, I don't know, 57? Yeah. For a cool thing for a lot of these people is like, I don't know how much longer they can, you know,
Starting point is 01:13:23 be at the pace that they're at. I know my friend Carl Lenore, I believe Carl's in his 60s. He said for him, that's really when the energy tank started to dip down. But maybe each person can push it off a little differently. And Carl is somebody that he didn't really get on the train of nutrition and strength training and everything,
Starting point is 01:13:45 I think until he was older, especially when it came to the nutrition side of things. And I think that the earlier that you take care of these things and the better shape that you get, the easier you should be able to push off old age. And the easier you should be able to push off being like elderly. You know, like it's one thing to see someone walking down the street and
Starting point is 01:14:09 they're just like older. Like all that guys like you know someone describes you like I don't know he's an older guy probably 55, 60. That's one way to describe someone right? But like elderly is like almost a different category to me. Yeah that's what I think of when I think of like elderly. And maybe, I don't know, maybe that's coming for all of us, no matter what we do. I don't really know. But what I'm trying to say is I think that you could push that off and maybe you can push that off when you're 98 or 99.
Starting point is 01:14:41 Yeah. Yeah. I mean, you just got to prioritize it. You got to have goals. I think that's the main thing. So like for me, now I'm remembering exactly why I got into jiu-jitsu and why I never quit. It was because of my son. I want him to do it.
Starting point is 01:14:56 So because of my son, I'm making myself better. So I don't know how good I'll be if he has kids, like if I'll have grandkids because you know there's, you know, whooped their ass. Yeah. He's, you know, he's a lot younger than me, but my daughter, she might have kids. And so yeah, I'm going to have to stay in shape for them. Right. You got to have like a little, that's the thing, man. Like this stuff is, it's, it's going to change your life. It'll change your family's life, but it changes the lives of people in your family that you haven't met yet,
Starting point is 01:15:26 cause they don't exist. I love that. I think also too, you know, a lot of people could think about just the importance of re-comping your body, you know, as you get to be 45, 50, you hear kind of women talk about this a little bit more so than men,
Starting point is 01:15:44 but they just say everything starts kind of sag talk about this a little bit more so than men, but they just say everything starts kind of sagging south, right? And I think the main reason for that isn't necessarily just your age. The main reason for that is lack of activity. The main reason for that is the years and years of maybe even just slightly overeating is just kind of like catching up to you, starting to manifest maybe the years of maybe even just slightly overeating is just kind of like catching up to you starting to manifest maybe the years of like a couple other bad habits that aren't amazing not getting great sleep, not getting outside, all these different things that kind
Starting point is 01:16:17 of accumulate, but you can recomp your body. And I think people a lot of times are doing the opposite. Somebody, you know, or somebody like, let's say you had somebody at like 40 years old and they're like, shit man, you know, for my 40th birthday, I wanna be in a little bit better shape, right? And they do this crash diet and they, and they've done some crash diets in the past. And really what those diets do
Starting point is 01:16:40 is they make you fatter and fatter. Even though you might weigh less for the photo shoot or you might weigh less for your 40th birthday, over time, they're making you fatter and fatter. Even though you might weigh less for the photo shoot or you might weigh less for your 40th birthday, over time they're making you fatter and fatter because every time you do these diets, they're kind of extreme. They're not really meant to be long lasting. You're not doing them with weightlifting in mind.
Starting point is 01:16:57 You don't know that it's important to lift weights because of the message it sends to your body to hold on to muscle or to even gain muscle. You may not be aware that you want to consume protein for protein muscle synthesis to be able to hold on to muscle mass and or build some muscle mass. And so there's things that you can kind of as you go from 40 to 45 to 50, you can just keep getting in better and better and better shape rather than the opposite
Starting point is 01:17:27 of what most people are doing. I don't really like my progress from when I was 330 pounds to now obviously looks like shocking, right? It probably looks pretty crazy. But the difference between like the last, minus a bodybuilding show that I did, but the difference between like the last three years and now, it's like, I just, at least I feel like it
Starting point is 01:17:54 and the scales showing that, I keep getting leaner and leaner. And to each their own, like some people might wanna be bigger for longer or whatever. I got friends that still wanna be 250 and they're like my age. And I'm like, I don't know about that.
Starting point is 01:18:09 But that's up to them to decide that they wanna do that. But you can continue to recomposition your body, meaning that you can end up with slightly a little bit more muscle than fat over and over again, rather than the opposite, which is usually what's done by most people. So you wanna really make sure you're eating your protein, which we talk about every single show,
Starting point is 01:18:33 can't emphasize that enough, getting a gram of protein per pound of body weight approximately or something remotely close to that. And that's where the lifting weights will be really critical. And again, lifting weights, having that muscle mass, having bone density, along with just being strong and sending the signal of strength,
Starting point is 01:18:55 the signal of strength is going to help you to hold on to some muscle mass. But it's also going to be the thing that's gonna prevent you from tweaking your back or throwing out your back. I mean, just think about how, how shitty that is. You go to reach down to pick up an Amazon box or there's a delivery or you got some water jugs outside. You bend down, pick it up and you know, you throw your back out when you're 30, throw your back out and you're 35. Maybe you just like not that huge of a deal three days goes by and you do a little better
Starting point is 01:19:32 but you know when you're 45 55 like that stuff starts to be a huge deal and you get a little compromised and then you get out of the you know out of the Out of the momentum that you had with your exercise and stuff like that and shit starts to kind of slide downhill It's a slippery slope. I, you know, I was feeling pretty beat up after jujitsu the next morning and you know, I didn't, I didn't really do anything because I felt so beat up. I'm like, I'm just going to get some rest and then, you know, head into the studio. And as I'm getting ready, I'm like, dude, how long am I going to be able to get away with this? You know, I'm like, I'm a long am I going to be able to get away with this?
Starting point is 01:20:05 You know, I'm like, I'm a little stiff here and there. Like, it'll be fine. I'll just hit the mats and no big deal. And I'm like, ah, dude. Like, yeah, I am going to be 40. We all kind of have this mentality already that like it's almost kind of the beginning, right? Like, you know, we can confidently say that, like,
Starting point is 01:20:26 I'm only gonna get in better shape after 40. But again, thinking like, oh my gosh, what if 38 is like midlife and now I'm like, I'm on the other side of it? I have to start addressing this. So, you know, I got into a lot of the stuff we've learned on the podcast and I've been feeling great. And then I just kind of pushed myself a little bit too hard. I let the ego get the best of me.
Starting point is 01:20:49 Instead of kind of being smart about it and doing all the things that we encourage others to do, I did the opposite and I didn't shut the ego up and I beat myself up for it. But no, man, like I just think that like we can improve, but we just have to be smart about it. We can't just assume things are gonna get better because one day you're 35 and you have a little bit of back pain. The next thing you know, you're 40
Starting point is 01:21:16 and you remember how you used to be able to do more stuff. And now you're the guy with back pain. And that's a really shitty spot to be in because I was there for a long time. Thankfully I was, you know, I've been in positions where I get to talk to a lot of people to where I can like unwind some of this stuff. But unfortunately not a lot of people have that access.
Starting point is 01:21:37 I think people need to be really cautious of their dialogue too. Like, oh, I'm getting old, you know? I guess like saying shit here and there is like, whatever. It's not, maybe not the biggest deal, but I think negativity is really, really brutal. I think negativity is exponentially more powerful than being positive.
Starting point is 01:22:00 You know, be having a positive mindset and saying, nope, I'm not old. Like that's one way to do it, but really just not talking down to yourself or about yourself is probably your best way to go about doing things rather than saying like, you go to do an exercise and you say, I don't have any balance.
Starting point is 01:22:19 Like rather than saying that, just think the exercise is new. This is gonna be cool three weeks from now. Like you just change, you change the way that you say it rather than being frustrated that you'll never get it or I'm too sore or too tight or too this or too that. I do think that it's a good idea to try to figure out some things that you can do day to day that are gonna involve
Starting point is 01:22:48 some of these ideas of, I recommend this to people when they get hurt, strengthen, lengthen, smash, and repeat, strengthen, lengthen, smash, and repeat. So that actually sort of just applies to your tissues in general. That's what you wanna try to do with them. Smashing refers to myofascial release.
Starting point is 01:23:07 Strengthening is obviously some sort of strength training and lengthening is just some sort of mobility. Get yourself to do some like mobility stuff. Doesn't have to be complicated. You could do a stretching program if you really wanted to, but I think, you know, activity, you know, we mentioned that quite a bit. Throw a football around with one of the kids in your family, throw a football around with
Starting point is 01:23:29 a friend. Just because you're not currently a football player doesn't mean you can't play some football. Doesn't mean you can't kick around a soccer ball. Doesn't mean you can't. And maybe that like we talk about stuff like this a lot in here where, you know, just imagine if you're, imagine if your toothbrush, right? Your toothbrush in your area where you brush your teeth.
Starting point is 01:23:52 Just imagine if it's in your garage. Like what a pain in the fucking ass, right? What a pain in the ass to go and brush your teeth like that every day, especially if it's cold and, you know, it's the winter time and you're going to your, like it's just annoying. You would never do that, right?
Starting point is 01:24:07 You have your, why is your toothbrush in your bedroom or in your bathroom rather, next to your sink and it's like out, right? Like you don't even have it, it's not even in a drawer because you don't want anything to prevent you from using it. So let's just do that with weights. Let's just do that with other stuff.
Starting point is 01:24:26 Like get your kettlebell dusted off, get the spider webs off it, and put that bitch next to your TV. And your wife and other family members might tease you or not love it or whatever, but see what kind of discussion you can have or compromise you can have because they're all gonna wanna do it too,
Starting point is 01:24:48 and say, oh, I put that there for us. That's not just for me. I didn't just put that there for me, that's for us. Anytime we walk by, or after dinner, we could do 10 squats with the kettlebell and then go on a walk. Like I saw a post the other day of somebody did a squat every time the kid yelled, mom. Amazing. That lady must have been squatting
Starting point is 01:25:13 all day long. She probably has a world record at this point for squats in a day. Yeah. I also liked the idea of just like creating the environment that's more conducive to getting these types of wins. You know, kettlebell, slantboard. If you're watching football, every time there's a commercial or a timeout, 10 pushups, whatever it is, the main reason that I like that is because if my son's around, he's just going to see it. And as weird as it may be for me as weird as it may be for relatives
Starting point is 01:25:49 It will not be weird for him because he will see it starting at a young age And if I can hand that off to him like that is a huge win for me Yeah, I just threw a little bit of padding underneath this carpet that we have in our like TV room Because I just never want to get on the ground. TV room. Cause I just never wanna get on the ground. I know I need to get on the ground. I know I need to do these drills and I never do them. And so I was just like, let me just get, if it's just a little softer, I'll freaking go.
Starting point is 01:26:16 I know we talked about not being soft on the show earlier, but the carpet that I have is just like right on top of like this tile and it just sucks. It just hurts. So I was like, you put like a little cushion down there and that that's just enough encouragement to go down on the ground and do some mile fashion release or just to sit and watch TV on the ground in different positions rather than just being like on a recliner or or just on the couch.
Starting point is 01:26:42 What are your positions? Yeah. What about how do you make the cause again, we were talking about making things a little bit harder. or just on the couch or positions. Yeah. What about, how do you make the, cause again, we were talking about making things a little bit harder. How do you make the diet a little bit easier? You make the diet easier by being prepared. That's pretty simple.
Starting point is 01:26:56 You just, you know, you go and you shop for the good foods, keep your diet simple. There's really no reason, especially for people that have, for people that are like just kind of starting out with paying attention to their diet and they have excess body fat to lose, there's really no reason to go on any sort of really hardcore crazy diet unless you need that
Starting point is 01:27:18 from a mental perspective, which sometimes people need to go keto or go carnivore because they need to like cut out a whole food group sometimes. But in general, I think you want to eat natty foods, eat, you know, lean sources of meat. You got any sort of like, any sort of red meat, you have chicken, turkey, lamb, fish,
Starting point is 01:27:42 and then the other categories, you know, you got like potatoes and rice, and then you have a category that sometimes gets a little bit, I'm sorry, vegetables, you got fruit. Those are all fair game, you know, and you should be able to, a way to make your diet easier is to just smash the fuck out of those foods. Eat a lot of them. Have two or three servings of vegetables every day. Have two or three servings of fruit every day. Have three or four servings of meat every day. Or just make sure you're getting your protein requirement from meat and eggs. And you can throw a little bit of dairy in
Starting point is 01:28:22 there as well. The only reason I say a little bit of dairy is just like, if you're someone that's like chugging down milk or something like that, it might make your weight loss journey a little bit harder. But I mean, that's the way to do it. And that's not, I don't think that that, I don't think that's difficult. You know, once, twice a week, if you can control yourself,
Starting point is 01:28:43 have a burrito, have a sandwich, have something that you really like and you really want to look forward to. But what will happen over time is you will just like the food so much because making like steak and potatoes or cooking up some ground beef and throwing some like raw cheese on it or whatever fits your palette, whatever fits your flavor profile, cooking up steaks and stuff like that. I mean, you're going to find that my cousin actually, he's 52, I think. He recently lost like 40 pounds in great shape.
Starting point is 01:29:20 And I went out to eat with him when I saw him in New Jersey. And he's like, I don't really go out to eat with him when I saw him in New Jersey. And he's like, I don't really go out to eat anymore. He's like, I can make a steak way better than that. So that's, you start to really flip. I don't go out to eat anymore for the food. I'll probably, I shouldn't say never, cause there's some like, you know,
Starting point is 01:29:40 you sometimes you go to a fancy place that's really nice or whatever, but for the most part, I will never go to a restaurant for the food. I'm going there for an experience with some other people and I'm just there to have fun. I'm there to enjoy myself. I could give a shit about the food. You wanna know why?
Starting point is 01:29:57 Because I'm gonna eat before I go. I'm gonna make sure that I have everything I need. I wanna make sure that I'm like nourished properly. And I don't want to like fall for eating the bread and whatever other crap they put on the table. I also don't want to be mad or angry about there's a little bit of oil on here. I think this place is outrageous. Is this canola oil? You know, like who's got time for any of that bullshit? So just, you know, do your own thing and then, but still, you know, still go out to eat and have a double dinner.
Starting point is 01:30:25 Yeah. After my comp, my dad was like, Hey, yeah, let's go celebrate. Let's get a steak. And I was like, yeah, I mean, I don't have any, that's like thawed ready to go. And he's like, no, no, no, we don't, we're not cooking. Like, let's go get one. I'm like, ah, I was like, I can't really recommend anywhere. Like, unless we're going to like, we're talking like each plate's like over a hundred dollars. Like there's nowhere for us to go. It just doesn't exist. And then lately, because you know, I've been getting that, they call it bowl meat at Costco.
Starting point is 01:30:52 It's a 10 pound tube of slightly leaner ground beef. So I've just been making a ton of smash burgers. I've just been getting really into it. I think it's pretty lean. I think it's like 90, 10. Yeah, yeah, it's like at least 94-6 at least. But the reason why they don't label it is because they can't tell you for sure. So it's leaner than the 88-12 that you can just go buy.
Starting point is 01:31:16 It's leaner than the 90-10 that they sell in the freezer. It's really good. Anyways, yeah, getting real creative with it. Like grilled onions and then like toasting bread It's just like dude. It's so much fun. And it's like yeah, I I enjoy everything I eat. Mm-hmm and It's been it's been pretty cool because I'll get compliments at jujitsu for looking lean for looking in like like what are you eating? Like what do you like, you know, do you train outside of here? Like, what is it that you do? And I'm like, yeah, I'm a little banged up.
Starting point is 01:31:46 But the one thing that will never ever falter is my diet because I enjoy it. I don't, right now I'm currently not really tracking, although I was just to kind of make sure that I wasn't completely full of crap and assuming that I was getting over 200 grams of protein and turns out, yeah, I'm getting like 225, 250 some days. Having my diet in check is like keeping everything afloat.
Starting point is 01:32:10 Like I could skip a day in the gym, I could skip jujitsu or I could rest and everything's fine because of the diet. And again, I don't, I don't feel like I'm without, I don't feel like I'm restricting anything because everything I eat is incredible. It's a skill set that you acquired, you know over a period of time And so that's what we're encouraging people here to do. I want to encourage people to to get lean. I just think like It's cool to be big and it's cool to be jacked. I spent many many years doing that So if you need to still like work that out of your system, then you can kind of go for it And and I'm not really talking about like,
Starting point is 01:32:45 just go and get skinny, you know, I think that like you can be like lean and jacked or you can be like big and jacked and leanish, you know what I mean? You don't have to be, not everyone's gonna like feel great or feel like they even look great or look good with abs, cause sometimes it just makes you look weird,
Starting point is 01:33:04 kind of to be honest. And so each person is going to have to kind of select their own thing, but do your best to lean out. You'll notice that, I mean, not that we're just like always fishing for compliments, but it's great to get compliments from people. It's great to have people recognize when you're just like really lean and you got, you know, shit going on in your shoulders, you got a little bit of veins in your calves or forearms
Starting point is 01:33:31 or quads or something, people take note and they're like, damn bro, like what the hell are you doing? That's really kind of cool. So I don't know, for whatever it's worth, I think it's just great to get yourself in shape and it's fun to work your way towards getting yourself in the best shape of your life. Yeah, so this is me not really dieting,
Starting point is 01:33:56 not training for anything, just eating and kind of living the life how I want to. I don't really eat sweets, but I don't crave them. I don't crave pizza. I mean, obviously, if there's pizza in front of me, I'm gonna be like, damn, that's amazing pizza. But you also might just eat it, right? Or, yeah, I could just eat it and be fine.
Starting point is 01:34:21 Yeah, I do that sometimes. But what I'm getting at is like, I used to kill myself to try to obtain half of what I have right now. And now I'm just living my life the way I want to and it's just happening automatically. Yep, and this is a great movement practice, the rope flow stuff.
Starting point is 01:34:41 You know, and Seemo and I were trying to figure out like what kind of caloric burn it is. Hard to really tell, but I would say that it's maybe the, the equivalent, depending on how hard you're doing it, obviously. Um, I would say it surpasses, you know, your heartbeat with just walking, but it probably might maybe represents walking with some hills. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:35:01 The, uh, the other day where we were like kind of all hanging out in front of the gym and I was just like doing it for I don't know how long that was. Yeah, we did it for like 45 minutes, right? I didn't feel it in the moment, but then when I sat down here, I was like, oh my gosh, like I am tired. Like I was exhausted. Like I was not exhausted. I was like kind of like spent, you know, I'm like, dude, I need to get up and like go eat something or like I was kind of was feeling it. I was surprised.
Starting point is 01:35:29 Yeah. And before we duck out of here for today, we have to pay homage to Mark Sisson because he is whenever we talk about longevity, I always got to bring him up. He's probably like, motherfucker, why? Why are you thinking I'm so old? I'm not supposed to swear on here, I always forget. Maybe we'll bleep them out, maybe we won't. But yeah, Mark Sisson is just a man. He's in his 70s. He's still training hard. He's still in great shape, still shredded. I don't think he like, he used to run,
Starting point is 01:36:02 he used to do triathlons and all these other things, but nowadays he does more like sprints and stuff. I don't think he like, you know, he doesn't, he used to run, he's to triathlons and all these other things, but Nowadays he uh does more like sprints and stuff. He eats similar to the way Andrew and I have describing our own Foods, he doesn't really deprive of much stuff um, he probably fasts a little bit the way that Andrew and I do which is like It's not maybe as deliberate of a fast all the time. Maybe probably fast less than I do, cause I'll still fast like once a week for a whole day.
Starting point is 01:36:31 But yeah, he's a bad ass and yeah, he does a slack line and he does, what is that called? Frisbee, ultimate Frisbee. Yep, he do some sprints on the beach. He still lifts and all that stuff. And so whenever we talk about longevity, I think it's great that there are some people that are in their 30s and 40s and are giving out some advice and tips and stuff. And the truth is, is like, none of us are really old enough to really talk about it
Starting point is 01:37:00 that much. You see this Brian Johnson guy out there talking about longevity and I just think that guy, I think a lot of what he's doing is ridiculous. I really do. I just like, Hey bro, like going to gym and like smash some weights and like go on a run and like, I don't know. When it comes to, when it comes to longevity, I think it's a little confusing sometimes. I don't necessarily care personally about living to 120 or living to 100. Those are not really my goals.
Starting point is 01:37:37 My goal is to wake up tomorrow and have tomorrow be just as awesome as today. That's it. And then hopefully I can put that on repeat and I wanna put that on repeat for as long as I can. I wanna feel as good as I can for as long as I can. I wanna feel strong as I can for as long as I can. But I also realize like that
Starting point is 01:37:57 no matter what our habits are, I don't think we have the, we don't have information right now that is going to really allow someone to be very functional at like 150 or 130. Like we just, we're not there yet. Maybe by the time I get to be 90 or something, maybe they'll have more information
Starting point is 01:38:15 that will assist us at those ages. But I just, all the way from your teeth to your toes to everything fucking in between, I think that like none of it was designed to be here that long. So even if you could somehow figure out a way for your heart to keep pumping, you're going to look pretty gross and you're going to probably smell half dead by that point. If you're like 146 years old. I wonder how good your brain's gonna be working at 130. Probably not so good.
Starting point is 01:38:48 All dried out. Strength is never weak, this week is never strength. Catch you guys later, bye.

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