Mark Bell's Power Project - How To LEVEL UP Your Mindset - Super Cut

Starting point is 00:00:00 You know how to say fake it till you make it? I believe in that to an extent. So like you said, he couldn't control everything, but he at least set the parameters in his mind that he could. The devil's the ego. And so that's that dialogue that you're consistently having like, hey, I should work out today. And then it's like, start Monday. That's the ego. You could probably just do the thing that's a little bit more convenient, but you probably don't realize it yet. And I've referred to this as having a broke mindset. And I just make the decision to die on that line and hold that line no matter what. Every month I'm studying one franchise that's successful, one that's failing, and I want to know the whys behind it.

Starting point is 00:00:31 We know that you can slowly but surely get better at something, do it once or twice a week. We know that. But it's kind of, it's a more difficult route. And that's the route of somebody who's super patient and super mature. Most of the time we're neither one of those. That's the route of somebody who's super patient and super mature. Most of the time we're neither one of those. I've been out on a bunch of runs recently where I just kind of start out.

Starting point is 00:00:51 I usually start out the same way. I usually just kind of like go and then I'm like, let me see what's available for today. And then I start to kind of get into it more. I try not to obsess over like times or anything like that. But sometimes you're just moving and you're like, oh, I'm moving pretty good today. And you pick up the pace and I'm like, man, I'm fucking kicking ass today. And then like 20 minutes later, I'm like, I'm not doing so great. There's waves. You ride the wave.

Starting point is 00:01:14 And your brain too. Your brain is all like on fire. It's like I chugged a mind bullet or something it feels like. Everything's just fire and fire and fire. And it's like, this isn't a good idea anymore you should fucking go home so that's that's its own thing but for sure the longer you run the more pronounced that gets the ups and the downs yeah but the thing is just like we're talking like this is gonna pass yeah you find you when you're at the bottom and it sucks and you know

Starting point is 00:01:38 you know you're gonna be back at the top before long it might be an hour it might you know might be three minutes but you're gonna be back you to be all right. But that admittedly sometimes once you get closer to like your actual limits as far as just what your body can do, the mind really starts to try to save itself. And I've noticed this is a good idea or why I'm a big proponent of like trying to run in a lot of different areas. And I think it's important because when you see like that, you're getting close to the finish. That's when the pain will come in a little bit more, but you know, you're like, oh man,

Starting point is 00:02:09 I'm close. And, uh, whether it's like a letup or, or, or whether you're just like excited because you're about to finish, even if you're thinking like, I'm going to finish strong.

Starting point is 00:02:19 I think you're better off being like oblivious sometimes, not for all your training, but sometimes. I mean, I set my biggest PRs in the gym when I'm not paying attention to the weight. Right. So I'd say the same thing. You know, I hit the flow.

Starting point is 00:02:30 Like I'm a jujitsu lifting running. I love the flow state. I try to find that and just ride it. I ride that wave. But, you know, like I said, there's ups and there's downs. And sometimes you do have to, you you know do some powerful self-talk or some imagery or whatever you know in anything not just running or training but um Goggins talks about like uh the Rocky movies being like the piece of imagery that he uses um I think for

Starting point is 00:02:57 everyone it's different I think once you find yours even if you're not a runner that that's a it's a powerful tool um with me it was, I've always kind of admired feats of will as much as strength or endurance or anything else. And sacrifice, like the story of the 300, that's always just made my skin stand on end. Or there's stories of Native American warriors when the cavalrymen were coming on the village and they needed to buy time

Starting point is 00:03:22 for the women and children to escape. They'd drive a stake, a line of them would line up and drive a stake into the ground in between them and the village and the cavalrymen. And each would tie a rope to one end of the stake and tie the other end to himself and just swear to die on that ground, you know, and he'd fight to the last.

Starting point is 00:03:38 And so stuff like that has always been something that moved me. Yeah, you're like, somebody's done shit way harder than I have. Yeah, well, that's what I'm saying. Like, you know, I can run for a day or for, you know, until things stop working if they did that. And so sometimes it helps whatever your thing is. And for me, it's just, when I feel that, when I know it's not just riding the wave anymore, when I know things are starting to shut down and they, you know, parts of my body kind of stop working. Uh, that's the time when I, you know, I just, I mentally, I draw a line in the

Starting point is 00:04:04 sand and I picture everything that I love and care about and everything that I could be, everything that I am on one side of the line and everything that wants to take that away or compromise that on the other. And I just make the decision to die on that line and hold that line no matter what. And more often than not, once you do that, you get, I mean, if you're truly, truly willing to make that sacrifice, it's liberating. And after that, after that, you know, you hold, you hold, you hold and you do whatever it takes. And if you fail, that's fine, but at least die like a man on your feet, you know? So, but like I said, different for everyone. Yeah, no, but, but again, like what you just did, there's, it's another aspect of like literally being grateful for the,

Starting point is 00:04:44 what you're doing at that moment in time. And also like, number one, what you just did there's it's another aspect of like literally being grateful for the what you're doing at that moment in time and also like number one what you're doing is fucking it's amazing and it is badass but you your mind goes to literal people sacrificing themselves and then just being like this shit ain't so bad fucking be a man and run through it it's that it's your ability to change your perspective out of what you're doing. I think that's like the big talent at all. Cause we're always zoned in on us, us, us, but you constantly take yourself out of it and just be like, ah, that's way better. Or that's so much, or that's what we need to get better at. Cause we're always focused on what we're doing, focused on ourselves, focused on our actions, But you have an amazing skill of removing yourself and thinking about different perspectives that makes you grateful.

Starting point is 00:05:30 I mean, I agree and I appreciate that. I never really thought of that as a skill, but I think you might be right. That's a skill. Yeah. It's definitely a skill because you can also listen to Rocky or do something like that and you can get fired up and you can be like I'm gonna like go harder I'm gonna try harder and that can work sometimes but a lot of times I'll also kind of stress the body a bit and sometimes

Starting point is 00:05:51 sometimes you're opening yourself up to an injury or yeah just get overheated or whatever the fucking case may be so it's like and it's a superpower use it when you should you know if you're going if you're super strength and you're running around trying to pick stuff up all the time you're gonna you know but if you're utilizing it for that so it's a superpower use it when you should you know if you're going if you're super strength you're running around trying to pick stuff up all the time you're gonna you know but if you're utilizing it for that so it's like i i wake up every day i come in here to lift i go to jits i

Starting point is 00:06:10 run i box do whatever i'm doing and i i don't hype myself like this is exactly who i am and where i'm supposed to be it requires no hype and no nothing i can come and do this with you know i don't take pre-workout i don't listen to heavy metal in the parking lot i just come and do what i'm meant to do having said that meant to do. Having said that, if you do that and you push yourself and you're truly, truly finding the edge of your comfort zone and going beyond what is safe, you're going to find some times where you have to call on those extra resources. But yeah, I'm not waking up every day and like, all right, you know what I mean?

Starting point is 00:06:39 I'm Ragnar Lothbrok and this is the last stand of the, you know what I mean? Like, no, I'm just a guy. I'm just a dude, you know, most of the time. I hear people, they're like, yeah, I'm gonna, I'm going from where I live to like, I'm going to go to Woodland and go to Costco. I'm like, you just drove past like four or five grocery stores on your way there. Those are more expensive. Well, it takes you a lot more time. like i'd rather just hit this place up that's close to me when i need to periodically rather than make this giant haul you know it's again you got to do what you think is best for you and that's important um however time is time is money

Starting point is 00:07:18 and money is time and i think like food is money you know food is, it's a way to look at food. Food is money, but food is also time as well. Lots of time. The less cautious you are with your food and the more unhealthy, he's talking about health, the more unhealthy your food makes you, the more time it takes you to unwind that whole thing. The more time you're going to spend on a treadmill, the more time you're going to spend thing, the more time you're going to spend on a treadmill,

Starting point is 00:07:45 the more time you're going to spend running, the more time you're going to spend doing some, a bunch of exercise just to probably get you balanced out. So you're not continuing to gain weight. You could be, there's a lot of things that if you start to really examine them, you're probably wasting a lot of time and wasting a lot of money. You could probably just do the thing that's a little bit more convenient and a little bit more expensive, but you probably don't realize it yet. And I've referred to this as having a broke mindset. Your, your mindset is not, it has too much of a governor on it. You're kind of stuck in your previous thoughts. And again,

Starting point is 00:08:23 it's understandable to have scarcity. Like, you know, people have horrible shit happen when they're children. They have, you know, parents leave, they have divorces, there's deaths, there's all kinds of shit that happens that is totally understandable for you to have it kind of programmed into you that you're concerned about your money and you're trying to really have a budget. It all makes tons of sense. However, I do think that there's a real value to paying for stuff sometimes. And so you have to kind of wonder like, how, like how into this are you, you know, do you want to go to this jujitsu school that they just like, you know, they have, they have everybody there

Starting point is 00:09:01 and they have like fitness classes and all these other things going on. And it's like 20 bucks a month or whatever. Where do you want to go to this instructor who is really teaching class, who has a bunch of great teachers and instructors under him? And the place is 150 bucks a month or something. So sometimes you're going to be paying for much better quality. And as Andrew's pointing out, a lot of times you want to just do it right the first time. Power Project Family, how's it going? Now, we talk about sleep all the time on the podcast because it's one of the biggest things that helps you with your health and fitness, your recovery, your muscle gain, your fat loss, everything.

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Starting point is 00:10:15 Like as, as a man, Costco, when you can get like 16 rolls of toilet paper, 12 things, a paper towel where you go to Raley's or Target and- Fuck those places. You're getting four. Costco, you're getting 12 and it's good quality.

Starting point is 00:10:33 Costco, I get what you were going for, but man, Costco. Yeah, but- I like Costco. But then you get to Costco and you're going to get the toilet paper and I'm going to get a rotisserie chicken and some other shit. And then you walk by and like, well, I guess Valentine's Day is coming. I'll get the toilet paper and I'm going to get a rotisserie chicken and some other shit. And then you walk by and like, well, I guess Valentine's Day is coming. I'll get the strawberries too. And it's like, well, shit.

Starting point is 00:10:50 I think they have cheap flowers for all the guys and nice cheap flowers. Yeah, they're like 20 bucks. They're really good. This is like way off topic. I think everything's a trick. I think everything, like when people are like,

Starting point is 00:11:03 oh, I make like 100 grand at my job and then I have a company car, I think everything, like when people are like, Oh, you know, I make like a hundred grand at my job. And then I, you know, have a company car, I got insurance and they put so much value in all that stuff. It's like, you can own your own car your own way. You don't, you don't need to be, uh, working for that company necessarily. And you don't necessarily need them to pay for insurance. You can pay for your own insurance. And I think we put so much value in these things. We put so much value in, but they're all kind of an illusion. Costco is the greatest illusion of all time. Okay, let's go.

Starting point is 00:11:34 Walmart and all these places. Well, hey, come in. Costco and Walmart are different. Hey, guys, come in. Like everything's inexpensive and we have really large things that you get in these you know the great quantities and you're going to walk out with this amazing uh this amazing like plethora of stuff you know but as andrew pointed out you're going to buy way too much shit you're going to buy way more stuff than you need to you're not going to just buy what's on your list must be disciplined they already know that they're getting you with the four dollar rotisserie chicken they have like

Starting point is 00:12:01 lost leaders in there and stuff like that. The $10 pizza. That's like huge. And then you're like, oh my God, you look at that. They got a TV for $400. That's fucking awesome. You know, they deliver it right to my house.

Starting point is 00:12:13 We need one of those. The game's coming up. Oh, the game's coming. We got to get some beer too. Like we're already here. The amount of Costco baskets you see filled up to here,

Starting point is 00:12:21 it's like, oh dude. Okay. They know how to get the hoarders. That's the thing. And many people are hoarders who wouldn't like to admit it. I like loading up. I. It's like, dude, okay. They, they, they know how to get the hoarders. That's yeah. And many people are hoarders who wouldn't, I like loading up.

Starting point is 00:12:29 I think it's kind of great. I love getting like a bunch of eggs and shit. Like I kind of, I kind of dig all that. Cause it like, I don't know you, which especially as like a lifter, you always think that you're going to be like running out of stuff. Like I need all this protein.

Starting point is 00:12:40 It's like, you got like months and months of fucking protein. Like, what are you doing most of stuff's gonna go bad or be in your freezer forever yeah that's the fuck dude no more vegetables like i already told my wife like we have like too many too many shelves already full of vegetables that we're never gonna touch they've been there since like pre-pandemic like they're not going anywhere but nothing ever has made me feel like such a baller than when I walk in and I get the, you know, like the organic eggs, the big boxes of it at Costco and everyone's looking at the damn, that's expensive.

Starting point is 00:13:11 It's like six bucks for like that, you know, the regular white ones. And they're like standing there stressing, like, oh, how much is that per? And I just walk in, I grab two because the limit is two. If it wasn't, I would grab more. I grab that and just walk out. Don't even look at the price because I'm like, I need this. I have to have these eggs, or else I'm kind of fucked,

Starting point is 00:13:30 because I eat two things. I eat steak and eggs. Like, that's all I do. But, you know, then I look back, and it's like, oh, they're 20 bucks right now for, I think it's like 60 of them. That's still an insane deal, but when you look at it, it's like,

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Starting point is 00:14:34 podcast show notes. You know how to say fake it till you make it. I believe in that to an extent. So like you said, he couldn't control everything, but he at least set the parameters in his mind that he could. And there was a video I watched on YouTube a few months ago. I forget the name of it, but they use this, like, mindset of, like, this toxic winning, which I wasn't mad at. See, I'm kind of different from a lot of the mental coaching people in a sense of I'm not going to give you overly positive stuff. Yes, some of my stuff will give that positive message, but sometimes it won't. Sometimes you got to say, I'm going to win at all costs. Within means, like, obviously you don't want to cheat. Live, you can get into the, you familiar with the dark triad?

Starting point is 00:15:06 You ever heard that term before? I have. Okay, so you can maybe get into that, but you don't want to be that person. A dark triad, that's a person who will cheat, steal, lie. Is it Machiavellianism? Machiavellianism. Narcissism and? Psychopathy.

Starting point is 00:15:17 Psychopathy. My man. That's good stuff. We talk about psychopaths and narcissists. I think that word gets overused. It's like, oh, they think they're good. They're a narcissist. No, like I'm a competitor.

Starting point is 00:15:28 Why shouldn't I think I'm good? And that's why people like sometimes on IG, I get feedback. Good, of course, but I get something like, well, you can't just make people think the better. You got to be humble. I'm like, to an extent, like I definitely know I'm not the best at everything. So, but let me know what I'm good at. I'm not going to negate that. Like, why would I do that?

Starting point is 00:15:45 And we're both, all three of us are athletes. So I think that mindset, more people should adopt. Like you should have a certain, they call it, I think it was like toxic winning. I don't want to quote it,

Starting point is 00:15:54 but it was like something like that of the point that you will do anything within means to get it done. And I'm, that's how I carry my business out now because there's people in similar fields that I'm cool with them, but I'm going to beat you in a healthy way of like I'm going to provide quality so people say I want Nick's stuff. What about creating a little bit of like a persona?

Starting point is 00:16:12 Oh, I didn't. You know, some of the guys can do that, right? Some of the guys are like I'm this way outside the ring. I'm this way normally. I'm normally calm. I'm docile. But, you know, Tyson was kind of a little bit of both in and out of the ring. Right. But he said that he had so many insecurities. He would cry before fights.

Starting point is 00:16:30 He was always terrified. But as soon as he stepped inside the ring, as soon as he got inside those ropes, he's like, I'm the killer. Then people can say what they want about Mike. But I like that mindset because I use an analogy with my athletes, even the pro ones all the way down to little kids. I have a nine year old gymnast that I was telling you I was in a hotel working with, and I used it with her, and I call it superhero athlete. And I'll ask you, who's your favorite heroes? I see Goku in the back, but... I pick Goku. Goku? It would be between Goku and Black Panther.

Starting point is 00:16:59 Okay, let's go with Black Panther. What about you? Superman, I don't know. So those are perfect. The reason I like it better than Goku, because Goku didn't really have too much of an ultra ego, but Black Panther can work. And so can Superman. So I'll go with Superman because his is a little easier to analogize. So same thing with an athlete, right? You have this persona in the field, in the ring, the court, whatever it is.

Starting point is 00:17:18 And those traits that come with that, there's a certain athletic identity. That's what we call it in sports psychology, that you have to be that high competitiveness. You have to do what it takes isolate sometimes from your social you know circle because you have to win or be the best so you have to wear that mask that's superman but who's superman when he's not uh saving the world he's clark kent and clark kent's personality people think he's this docile clumsy kind of nerd even though he's like 6'3", 220 pounds. But you put on some glasses. But the glasses

Starting point is 00:17:48 throw it all out the window, right? Forget them knowing his real identity. They still think this man's a loser because he's a news reporter with glasses. But anyway. Still walking around like a 60-inch chest. You feel me? Pics hanging out the front. And he's dressed well. All the characters that play

Starting point is 00:18:04 Superman are jacked or got got Jack for the role. Like Chris Reeve wasn't Super Jack, but he was like, I think 6'5". And then Henry Cavill was like 6'1", 220 solid. So that guy, but get to my point. They have to wear different masks or different identities. And the same thing in sport. I have to be a killer in the ring. I have to be the killer on the court, wherever it is.

Starting point is 00:18:24 But I can't carry that because that's one emotionally draining because how long can you have that kill, kill, kill, go, go, go mindset before it eats away from you? Like see it in the movies, like when there's a literal killer and eventually it starts getting to them. And we can even go on a tangent on that, but get to the point is you have to turn that off at some point. And on the other side, as the Clark Kent, theirent the their main identity real identity that's the athlete who knows when the i lost but it doesn't mean i'm less of a person because i've seen people who tie even when i was an athlete back then to even my current clients and they'll tie it into their personality and say well if i lost here i'm a loser there outside in the real world and that's the problem

Starting point is 00:19:02 so going back to mike tyson I think it's not perfect, but that's a good way to look at it. You have to shift those lanes. You have to. Yeah, and Ali obviously did it. But Ali, even later on, said he didn't believe half the stuff he said. He just was just... He wanted to put it out there to build himself up that way.

Starting point is 00:19:19 He put that energy out there, and now he was accountable for knocking the guy out in the third round. And then there would be a good opening, and he knocked the guy out in the third round. And I guess that's the other side of when we talk about false confidence. I guess for the people watching, take this into consideration, too. They all could back it up. That's the thing. They got a skill set.

Starting point is 00:19:37 Conor McGregor comes to mind as well. Exactly. So you can't just say it, too, because I've seen young athletes who try to carry those same Conor McGregor or Floyd Mayweather whatever it is personas but let's be real most kids until maybe junior year high school for the most part skill wise aren't the best maybe raw talent but I know most people I've played with I'm from South Florida where when we played football every game was like a state championship even the worst teams were like four or five star recruits were on those teams so you couldn't take any days off so we knew we had to be realistic you can't be that guy saying yeah i'm gonna score this many touchdowns or i'm gonna win all the games i'm

Starting point is 00:20:14 going d1 you're like basically right bro you have to be real sometimes you're d3 and it's not wrong with that because guess what if you're going back to my point identifying where you're at now i can go forward and say i'm going to be the best at this level and if it gets an opportunity to work up then work up you never hear anybody say i'm d3 of course i'm guilty i said i'm going to um i was like i'm going to you i went to camps there i told you i ran a 4 4 40 i was the same size height wise i was like 190 but i was ideal but my skill set didn't fully get there and guess what i didn't sign with anyone my senior year for football. And I ended up luckily getting a partial track scholarship at a small D1AA school.

Starting point is 00:20:51 Bethune-Cookman University is a historically black college in Daytona Beach where it helped me get on this path to the psychology where I changed my major like four times. I was very indecisive, but I took a class of psychology. I'm like, I think I like this. And I was back in 2008. So there was a guy, Dr. Ian Payton. I haven't talked to him probably since I graduated, but he doesn't know his class shifted me to psych training. Now look what I'm doing. So thank him out there, wherever he's at.

Starting point is 00:21:17 What are the athletes that seem to be stuck in a mindset of, like, loss? Because you mentioned, you know, for example, Ali. He said a lot of things, but he was able to back it up even Conor McGregor before he became the champ he was talking like he was the champ right and you got to imagine like if that's your goal you need to have that in your mind but you can't talk like that if it's your first fight but some some individuals maybe they're sparring and they're getting beat right now, or they're just not where they feel that they want to be, but you still need to have a level of confidence and belief, right? How can you build that from ground zero? So I guess it goes back to my other point,

Starting point is 00:21:56 because that first time fighter, he has literally no experience, or at least in the official fight, he might've sparred or practiced, like you said said but he has to know that when i do this there has to be a level of expectation so going to your point he has to expect something right yeah so i say that should be a high level of competitiveness of being a winner you you don't want to walk in there and saying man i'm gonna lose because it's my first time nah but you should have an expectation so going to the point is have a realistic expectation if you know that you because you you know where you stand let's be real no matter how good or bad You should have an expectation. So going to the point is have a realistic expectation. If you know that you, because you know where you stand. Let's be real.

Starting point is 00:22:31 No matter how good or bad athlete and how much they lie to themselves, deep down, they know where they stand. So either the coach or the athlete himself, depending on the age, it's easier to do it. But if you're younger, it's harder, obviously. But you have to say, okay, this guy I'm fighting is, let's say, 5-0, and and i'm one and oh my first fight was against a no-name person yeah can you realistically say that i will go through this effortlessly you're not gonna say i'm gonna lose but you're gonna be like okay i know how he fights i've seen his competition how they fight and how those fights went because i think

Starting point is 00:23:01 there's this notion of oh i'm my only competition yes and no obviously you got to beat yourself first but like I said earlier I want to be the best in my field when it comes to mental coaching and stuff so I'm always looking at similar people whether they're in the same lane or not like I look at Jordan Peterson stuff all the time I look at Huberman stuff all the time not to say I'm gonna beat them but I'm like if they're doing this I need to know where I rank if their videos are getting this kind of engagement what am I not saying to get that engagement so going back to your point if i'm an athlete getting rid of a fight or whatever sport event where do i engage where's my uh interaction at am i doing the things they're doing am i getting the outcomes they're getting now for one fight you can realistically

Starting point is 00:23:38 say probably not but you know you can at least keep up with them and then build from there what i like from what you what you mentioned right there is because like we were actually just we just did a podcast on uh guys and body image and how like a lot of people are paying attention to social media because they're comparing themselves to people all the time it's like fucking with how they look at themselves mentally but when it comes to being a competitor you have to compare and being an athlete you have to compare yourself to not just your other competition, but maybe on guys on your team. If you're trying to be the best on your team, you have to see, oh fuck, he has better dribbling skills than me. He has better athleticism than me. How the fuck can I catch up? You can't be living in your own world where it's me versus me and never comparing

Starting point is 00:24:17 yourself to other people. You have to be okay to do that. You have to be okay to see where you stand and see how you can improve. Exactly. And the thing going off of that is because when they don't see that, they put them in a box like a bubble almost. You know how people who don't get to see the world, they only live around their only circle of friends and they get into a real situation. What happens? They fall apart. Yeah, they don't grow, they fall apart. So that's the same thing with that. So you have to be like, okay, like you said, he's a better dribbler. How do I i get to his level because even if your teammate is still a person that you need to either compare yourself to be better then so you can help the team or at least equal to because at the end of the day those skills are needed i think sometimes a player on a similar team with somebody might be frustrated

Starting point is 00:24:59 after practice that somebody else got the praise you know hey and seem is rebounding really well today he did abc and then someone else thinks that means that the coach took a shot at them or the coach said something negative about them but they didn't they said something positive about him and rather than the next player thinking about how they're going to beat him which isn't that bad of an idea too because it's good to have competitiveness even within your own team is how can i contribute you know how what okay he has those skills i got other skills i can pass i can do this i can play defense i'm gonna do that as hard as possible for the next couple days and see if i can get because i would love the coach to say that about me but a lot of times i think people are like well how come the coach didn't say anything about me but But then they don't do anything about it. So that comes into, here the term, like intrinsic and extrinsic motivation.

Starting point is 00:25:49 Because motivation is a term that gets thrown out a lot. And there's, some people say, oh, it's not about motivation, it's about discipline. Or I say it's all of the above because motivation, I always say, is the gas that makes the car go. But discipline keeps you in the car. Because let's imagine if I got all the gas to go, I'm from Florida, so here to California. But if I don't stay in the car, I get out in Texas or wherever, stop.

Starting point is 00:26:12 Guess what? I'm not getting to my final destination. So those people who don't have that wherewithal to stay with it, they're not going to be able to accomplish it. We think about hard work. Think about someone that's working hard that has two or three jobs in comparison.

Starting point is 00:26:26 Oh, he's throwing in another mind. To, you know, to really think about somebody that let's say they work 20 hours a week. We would think that person's not a hard worker versus someone that works 80 hours a week and they have three jobs. But who potentially is making more money? You don't really know until you take a look under the hood and see like, what is this time devoted towards? What are you doing? Maybe you're a material expert at something and maybe you're 20, maybe you're a doctor and you do, you do 20 hours a week worth of surgery. And obviously there'd be other hours devoted to some other things, but you kind of get the idea. Like hard work is only like a piece of the pie. And I think from everybody I've met, it kind of always starts with hard work, but then kind of morphs because you need to have that.

Starting point is 00:27:14 Otherwise you're done. Have you met anyone that's high level that is not a material expert in something specific? Because I personally have my own experience with meeting people that are executing on a high level. It just seems like they, like you said, develop your purpose. It feels,

Starting point is 00:27:31 I feel like a lot of the people that I know have, have scaled because they really learned or investigated and, and knew a lot about one particular thing. Yeah. SME said they become subject matter experts and you have to become a subject matter expert. Like I know all about franchising now. After almost a decade, I know more about franchising

Starting point is 00:27:53 than most people would learn from a university course or going to the International Franchise Association's certification programs, et cetera, because I've been in the trenches. I've dealt with franchisees. I know what it's like when franchisees revolt against you. I know what it's like when they're on board with your vision, mission, and values. And so I've become a subject matter expert. I decided seven years ago that every month I'm going to study two franchises, one that's just

Starting point is 00:28:19 skyrocketing in any space. Could be Subway sandwiches, could be 7-Eleven, could be Jiffy Lube, way outside of the fitness industry. Why is one skyrocketing? Then I want to study one that's crashing and burning. For example, Quiznos arguably had a better sub, didn't they? Yeah, they were good. Better ingredients. They didn't have yoga material in their bread like Subway did.

Starting point is 00:28:41 Did you guys hear that one? What now? Yeah. Yeah, so you've heard of that one, right? I haven't. Yoga? Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, yeah, so you know what yoga mats are made of? That little rubbery thing of a jig?

Starting point is 00:28:52 So the, I don't know if it's the FDA, the USDA says that you can have whatever, .09% of that rubbery material in food, which is also what the McRib is made of. Because how does it have that perfect shape? You ever wondered that, right? And so how does that beautiful bread hold its shape? And so springy and fluffy yoga material. And so there's a, there's a blog called the food babe and she exposed that. So Quiznos was like, Hey, look, we have actual real bread. There's no,

Starting point is 00:29:19 no fucking yoga mats in our bread. Right. Uh, the, the, the meat is, doesn't have nitrate. It's not processed meat. Our cheese is all natural, blah, blah, blah. So Quiznos, and then when you eat the sandwich, you're like, this is a better fucking sandwich, and they toast it. Oh, my God. But Quiznos is no longer around,

Starting point is 00:29:36 and if there is one around right now, I think there's a total of 60 left on the planet. The Federal Trade Commission, who sees all franchises, says, hey, Quiznos, your failure rate has been so high of locations that you're not allowed to sell anymore. Every year we get audited by the Federal Trade Commission, all franchises, and

Starting point is 00:29:53 if you have a high failure rate, over like 26% or something, then you're not allowed to sell any more franchises. Quiznos is at 42%, Cold Stone Creamery is at 48%. Cold Stone Creamery is at 48%. Cold Stone Creamery. Cold Stone?

Starting point is 00:30:06 Yeah. Baskin Robbins. Good ice cream. Cold Stone. Amazing ice cream because they'll custom make the fucking thing and then you want more of that and you want more of that. Right? Yeah.

Starting point is 00:30:16 Sorry. Wow. Yeah. Because that, so what Quiznos was doing was taxing their franchisees an extra 9%. So you have to buy all your shit from us at a 9% markup. And the franchisees are like, dude, so we can't compete price-wise with Subway. And now that Subway added a toaster, they're crushing us, right, with their yoga mats.

Starting point is 00:30:36 And Cold Stone Creamery, I forget what their deal was, but they did something where, again, the franchisees revolted. And we're starting to shut down. And so you've got to show that on what's known as an FDD, Franchise Disclosure Document, every year. How many locations opened, how many closed. And Federal Trade Commission's like, hey, neither of you can open up more locations. Now here's the ironic part.

Starting point is 00:30:56 2017, Subway closed more stores than opened. That was the first time in Subway history. So every year or every month, I'm studying one franchise that's successful, one that's failing and I want to know the whys behind it. If I have to call the CEOs or do research on them or listen to podcasts that they've been on, and because of that I've become a subject matter expert on franchising. This is the fat foreign kid that came from communist country, English is the second language

Starting point is 00:31:21 for me, learned personal training, worked as a bouncer at a gay bar, Disneyland, and a personal trainer, and now I know more about franchising, so much that people pay me $90,000 to speak at franchising expos. What? And all I did was go narrow and deep on one subject. That one subject, a decade now, might change because my passion will change, but I'll always be serving.

Starting point is 00:31:46 I know that I'm meant to be a servant because if I'm not serving, I will start self-destructing. Yeah. Yeah. A lot of people listening, hopefully they can take that and put it into whatever they want to do. You know, study two people or two things, study it for a few weeks, a few months, maybe it's two books, whatever it is. But you can apply that to anything. Maybe you're not interested. Maybe you don't dig franchises. Maybe you don't care about that, but find something that you can study for a little while. I think taking on two things is not too overwhelming for anyone.

Starting point is 00:32:14 Not at all. And look, man, if someone's like, I want to be a strong motherfucker, there's probably a handful of dudes, yourself included, that I'm going to study. There's not a lot of dudes. You find the best at the top there's not a lot like in that case i want to go looking for the power lifters who have torn quads and hamstrings and fucking rotator cuffs and all that shit because that's you're not looking for a failure and a winner in that category right like i am right i want to know how not to fail so i'm looking for failures in franchising as well to go what not to do yeah but there really isn't much to becoming the best. Like not a lot of effort.

Starting point is 00:32:47 And I'll share this with you real quick. Water boils at 211 degrees. Cool. Throw a raw egg in it. You can make hard boiled eggs and eat it. One more degree of change. One more degree of change, it turns into steam. And you can power a locomotive and that locomotive can bring goods in and out of towns.

Starting point is 00:33:06 Steam versus boiling water. One more degree of, I'm going to commit to studying this guy an hour longer than he is, that hour multiplied by a year per day, per week, per month, will make me substantially better than you. That is why I'm better than him. That's it. That's one reason.

Starting point is 00:33:21 That's one of the reasons. Substantially better looking too. See? You are very handsome. Both of you. If you think about like an average person, like how many people like are listening right now that take just a couple moments

Starting point is 00:33:33 to just completely be by themselves and have silence? I'm guilty. I don't really ever do that. I do go on the cold plunge and I guess that's the only time that I literally have them myself where I'm completely alone, and I'm alone with my own thoughts. Even when I'm running, I'm listening to music or something. But that is a good experience for me.

Starting point is 00:33:53 I am out in nature and stuff. But I think some people aren't even exploring some of that. So just imagine, you know, somebody listening, and maybe they don't believe in some of the woo-woo stuff, but hey, could you believe it that taking 10 minutes and being by yourself and with yourself and with your own thoughts could really be productive? And could you figure out a way to do it by being intentional with breathing? Because maybe just sitting there just sounds like it sucks to you for whatever reason, but maybe you can do it through some breath work.

Starting point is 00:34:23 Yeah, I think that's probably the best approach for a lot of people because, um, this, I think the reason why people can't approach this is because most people have the intrusive negative thoughts. So it's, it's, they're more so escaping most of the day and, and they're not aware that they're escaping, right? They don't realize that every time they're going for these, these stimulation hits that it's because they're anxious. And this anxiety is driven from like a really deep, deep space of like unworthiness in a lot of ways or insecurities and or fear. So that, that first set of stillness, when they try to just sit still, it's wild. So it's really great to like use the run, use the cold,

Starting point is 00:35:03 use the breath I feel because, um, it won't be as intrusive for a lot of these people. Um, and, and they can really like kind of move in that direction because it's sitting at first, it's still for a lot of these, uh, uh, individuals. It's just so hard because the thoughts are just wild, like really aggressive, really negative, um, really, really fearful thoughts. Um, so it's, it's, it's kind of nice to stack it with some type of movement, cold, or breath. Even just laying down on the ground, you know, you might think like, oh, this pad is a little bit uncomfortable, or the wrinkle in my shirt feels weird, or all kinds of things run through your mind because as much as we want to try to shut the mind down

Starting point is 00:35:44 or slow it down, it's always at work. It's always at work. Even when we're sleeping, it's at work. Well, it's interesting. I have this theory on the ego, too. So since we're not the mind, I feel like a lot of times when we operate from only the mind and we don't know how to get out of this fear-driven lifestyle, we then manifest and create the ego. And the ego is built from a low vibrational place.

Starting point is 00:36:16 And people have relied on this ego to protect themselves, but unfortunately it stops them from actually doing great things. It's because it's coming from a place of fear. So I think that's what everybody battles with when they really start working and talking to themselves. So I always use the analogy of, or the, remember that cartoon where it has the person and then there's the devil or the angel and then the devil. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I go, well, once you become aware that you have, you're a soul, so the soul is the angel. The avatar is the avatar, right?

Starting point is 00:36:44 And then the devil is the angel the avatar is the avatar right and then the devil's the ego and so that's that dialogue that you're consistently having like hey i should work out today and then it's like start monday that's the ego like it's like when you go to lay down do breath work be like it's cool they'll do it later and like you get up and you do it later and the brain has always been like relying on that motherfucker that ego for protection so it only kind of knows to listen to that guy and so he'll listen to that your avatar is going to keep listening to that guy all the time until it builds a relationship with this guy and how do you build a relationship with that guy and that's by getting present that's by becoming love so by becoming still and and the

Starting point is 00:37:21 more you connect to that higher self that that soul, the ego dissolves. It can't exist in that realm. It dissolves. And I think Joe Dispenza mentions that too. They can see it on a brain scan that the ego or what the ego is or in a wavelength literally dissolves while they're meditating. And isn't that what psychedelics can provide too? Do the same thing that the ego also dissolves on psychedelics as well. there's really something here so everybody that relies on this ego and they even identify with the ego that's who they're listening to but that thing's built out of fear it's all it's all makes a lot of sense like it's i think it has to do with the left and right brain you know starting to communicate come together and communicate yeah and that that was a big moment for for me

Starting point is 00:38:03 understanding that that i that, that I'm, I'm not the ego. And then what's even cool too, is I think you get to the point where you no longer acknowledge that there is an ego because it's, it's a manifestation. You don't even acknowledge it anymore. You don't give it any power. And I'm starting to dabble with that a little bit as well. Like not even acknowledging that there is this thing that I created manifested within my mind called the ego. you say you don't acknowledge it what do you mean exactly um even like like say it's my ego because i think the ego and the brain are the same thing to be honest right does that make sense right i get it so you don't like you don't separate it

Starting point is 00:38:40 from yourself right yeah exactly i don't create like this whole other thing that's just a whole other thing you know it's like just like the inception thing you keep like zooming out so the ego is just another thing and maybe the ego can even create its own ego who knows so it's like you start just like removing that part and just the brain i liked what you were you were mentioning earlier right after i don't know if it was before after we did the breath work but we were talking about how like you know this stuff allows you to be present and it actually allows you to go through your day. And sometimes like you'll go, you'll walk up to the fridge and then you'll catch yourself like, wait, wait, I'm not, I'm not hungry. Why am I here? What am I, why did I,

Starting point is 00:39:16 why am I opening the fridge right now? You know what I mean? Like you really start to zoom out. Exactly. Cause you have these routines that you'll just naturally be going through if you've built in a routine and it's just like, you're kind of like a robot. You go to the fridge, you see that there, you take it to the couch, you eat it while watching something. But when you become present, you start doing some of these breathwork practices, cold plunging, et cetera. You're like, wait, why am I scrolling? I've been scrolling for the past five minutes. This is useless.

Starting point is 00:39:41 And that buffer is huge. That's when we can get a chance to kind of like, whoa, step outside of it. And most people right now, they don't have the capability that that buffer is huge that's when we can get a chance to kind of like whoa step outside of it right and most people right now they don't have the capability of that buffer they don't know how to get that like that just that little bit of space in between their person and their actual self and and if you really do remove the identity of of this self it makes it really easy to look at it from a really wonderful, objective way. And you see it as literally retraining it. Like it's like, almost like a monkey mind. It's like, or a child, if you will. And so then you can really just start like approaching it and do it through love, never shame or guilt, right? Like, so when he messes up and like does something that doesn't

Starting point is 00:40:23 serve him, I can be like, well, that's okay. Let's pick ourselves up and like does something that doesn't serve him i can be like well that's okay let's pick ourselves up and maybe let's handle it a little bit differently you know but if we identify with that self and it messes up then we're like i'm a piece of shit i'm these things right it's like it's we turn on ourselves it's kind of wild so if you can separate and then like be really kind to the the avatar when it goes through a moment of like messing up, you can make some profound changes very, very quickly with many of your behaviors through just being loving towards it

Starting point is 00:40:54 as opposed to like shaming it. Got it. Power Project family, if you're trying to increase your muscle mass, if you're trying to lose body fat, if you're trying to stick to a nutrition plan, if you're trying to get fit, pretty much if there's anything you're trying to do for your health, we know that sleep is the biggest determining factor to help you get from point A to point B.

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Starting point is 00:42:07 you weren't encouraged to try different things. Maybe as a kid, you were discouraged a lot of times. Maybe you went to go do something and you made a fool of yourself. You went to go play baseball. You swung at one ball and like you hurt yourself,

Starting point is 00:42:20 like hurt your back or something. Or the ball hit you and you cried and everybody made fun of you. Like you're a big baby. You're 12 years old. What are you crying about? It's like, well, baseball fricking hurts. And maybe you had a bad experience. What I want to encourage you is to start to try to really find different things because you don't know how they can change your life. You can go from having a broke mindset and not understanding things that are outside your box that you were born into. And I'm not even saying that the box is necessarily broken, but it doesn't allow you the growth mindset that's necessary to be able to have a

Starting point is 00:42:58 mindset that can continue to grow over time. And that's kind of what I mean by monetizing your mind. Like let's make this mind grow. And over time, it's going to become more and more valuable. And will it ever turn into money? It probably can, but we'll have to, we'll have to think about that after we already acquired the skill sets. Yeah. And I just, you know, as a, as a kid, if you're not encouraged, you're almost ostracized. If you do try other things, um, my, all my uncles, you know, as a kid, if you're not encouraged, you're almost ostracized if you do try other things. All my uncles, you know, everyone played football. And when I wanted to play soccer, it was like, that's a girl's sport. You know, you're not tackling anybody.

Starting point is 00:43:36 Like, don't be a little wuss. And it's like, but I don't want to do that thing. Like, I love watching the Niners play and stuff. But, like, I'm actually kind of good at soccer. But then, you you know everyone makes fun of me for it so then I I don't do it and whether or not that that carry that I carry that with me but a lot of people who aren't encouraged to you know have the monetization mindset they do carry it into their adulthood and stuff so how can like what what do you think is like kind of step one, if somebody, you know, they're working their eight to five, cause they're supposed to, you know, maybe they

Starting point is 00:44:08 don't want to. So like, how do you start to like kind of break away from that mindset? Yeah, I think it's, uh, you know, I've heard Jordan Peterson say something like this. He said something to the effect of that, um, pursuing happiness is pursuing happiness is a luxury. But pursuing, pursuing what you are, I'm losing the word. But basically he meant like by pursuing the thing that you love, that's like a moral obligation. It's a moral obligation to pursue the thing that you love, that's like a moral obligation. It's a moral obligation to pursue the thing that you love because you're going to find a lot of life's answers in there. So what does that mean?

Starting point is 00:44:54 Does that mean you just quit your nine to five and like, I'm going to follow my dream, bro? I don't think so. I think what it does mean is that you simultaneously, you have your job that you have, you have, uh, an obligation, you have a responsibility, but it's going to be your moral obligation over a period of time to pursue what really fills up your cup, what really fills up your heart. Is it helping other

Starting point is 00:45:22 people? Is it, um, do you really love, do you really love running, but you literally don't have like a lot of time for it? You know, do you, because some things that we, some things that we like and we love, it's kind of hard to get good at them unless we have a specific amount of time for them. I know, we know that you can slowly but surely get better at something. We do it once or twice a week we know that but it's kind of it's a more difficult route and that's the route of somebody who's super patient and super mature most of the time we're neither one of those so we choose to go to jujitsu like four times a week or we choose to run every day you know like i'm just i i run every day not because

Starting point is 00:46:02 it's optimal i run every day because it's like what's in my head. And it feels good for my brain to go do that. But yeah, somebody that does have the nine to five and they don't have the luxury to go around and chase what makes them happy, you're going to want to still think about like what is the thing that you want to do? want to still think about like, what is it? What is the thing that you want to do? I think if you're to back way up, you're to back way up and you're to think, what's this going to look like in like 10 years? Again, think of your, um, your way into lifting, you know, I'll just use my own powerlifting career as an example. If I would have took six months off from powerlifting and just reset and reloaded and rethought and just didn't power, just thought I just didn't powerlift and wanted to pursue train,

Starting point is 00:46:55 wanted to pursue raw lifting a little bit more. I would have hit every goal that I had. And then some, like, I just know that I would have, I've done things like that before, but I did it when I was younger at this time around I was like

Starting point is 00:47:07 I ain't waiting around man I'm going to give this another go meanwhile in the previous training cycle in the previous training cycle I blew out my pec and so when I came back to powerlifting and I benched 578

Starting point is 00:47:23 that was after I tore a pec for like the second or third time or whatever it was. In training for the 578 bench, I slightly tore my tricep and I still was able to go to the contest and be able to hit that 578 bench. And when I went for 600, I gave a pretty decent push on it. bench. Um, and when I went for 600, I gave a pretty decent push on it, but once the weight, once the weight of that kind of hit me, um, it was too much and I tore my pack again. But again, if I would've just, if I would've just pulled back a little bit, if I would've just taken my time and said, how do you really want this to end? How do you really want this powerlifting career of yours to end? You want to end it with an exclamation point or do you want to end it with like, nah, it's pretty cool. You did 578, but it's not 600. You know, there there's, you,

Starting point is 00:48:11 you have control over these things and anybody that's in any sport, anyone that's in any, it's even worse than that. A lot of times, a lot of times. So at least for me, at least I, that sounds so stupid to say some of this, but at least I was already Mark Bell. At least I was already like, I was already secure. I was already making money. I already had the slingshot. I was already doing all these things. I was already somebody in power.

Starting point is 00:48:36 I already did the things that I wanted to do. There's some people that they just cannot, they cannot stop bench pressing. They cannot stop doing curls. They cannot stop doing curls. They cannot stop doing tricep pushdowns and their elbows are killing them. Their body's killing them. Their body's telling them the last thing that we need is for you to do these exercises this week, you know, and they can't take a week or two off. Someone's shoulders bothering them. And there they are, you know, doing bench and doing dips and doing pushups. I just got to work through the pain.

Starting point is 00:49:08 And that's not the answer. The answer is to like, Hey, what would happen if I just took a big step back from this and just kind of reloaded with a little bit more information with a little bit more knowledge. So again, kind of back to, you know, somebody having like a nine to five or somebody being in college and kind of just feeling like in a funk and they're not doing what they want to do. Just think about you can do what you want to do for a shorter period of time during the day and during the week than what it is you have to do for now. week than what it is you have to do for now. Then over time, you should be able to flip those things around to where now 70% of the time is you playing and doing and messing around with the things that you love. And 30% of the time is kind of the other stuff. Cause there's always like some stuff that we don't have an opportunity to do. But even as a kid, you think about it, you go to school, what percentage of the day is that?

Starting point is 00:50:08 You know, you go to school, seems like forever. You leave at like eight o'clock in the morning. You come back at two or three every day. And that's five days a week, every week, except for some weeks and some time in the summer. And so that is really flip-flopped, right? Like that's you doing maybe some kids that really enjoy school. So there's that.

Starting point is 00:50:32 But it's a lot of kids probably doing things that they don't really want to do. They don't really love to do. And then on the other side of it, maybe they play volleyball. They do some stuff with their friends. But that volleyball practice is an hour. The time they got to hang out after school with their friends is 30 minutes. They hang out with their friend on the weekend, every Sunday. It's like for three hours or something. It's like so minor compared to the amount of time they spend in school. So hopefully as you get older, you can flip some of that around. I think that like a 90% of you doing what you want to do or you doing what you don't want to do. I think

Starting point is 00:51:15 both of those are bad. I don't think that's enough. I don't think that's enough balance. Some people, you know, might say, well, I just want to rock it to the top and so I'm gonna go 90 percent and do all that I'm gonna wake up at four and those things are fine but you got to kind of back yourself up from that even and think the number one killer of humans is stress more so than cigarettes and more so than heart attacks and cancer because it's all kind of lumped in there. And once you're stressed, it makes your body, makes it a lot harder for your body to fight things off. If you're super stressed,

Starting point is 00:51:52 most likely it's going to be harder to sleep. And so if you, even someone like a Joe Rogan who talks about like longevity, it may be harder for somebody like that or someone who's driven like a Jeff Bezos or an Elon Musk might be harder for these guys to live longer. I'll use Jeff Bezos as an example because I realize Elon don't think really trains. But you would imagine that Jeff Bezos must have had some pretty stressful times in his life. Rogan seems like he's ahead and seems like he's not super stressed, but

Starting point is 00:52:22 you know, there are hundreds of millions of dollars. There are hundreds of millions of dollars that have been generated by his show. And even the success that I've had, it would be foolish for me to not recognize like that's an extra stressor, having employees and then trying to, yeah, have people work with you, have people work

Starting point is 00:52:47 under you and things like that. And that communication, like those are all, those are all stressors. And then who you are, even in your community, who you are in your family, those are all things that can, it's kind of cool. Like if you're hovering around like the middle or the high end of the middle, those are all cool spots to be because someone could easily just a family member could be like, Oh, I'm going to get there too. You know, but when you're really killing it, you know, it's, it's like, it's a different thing and it's, there can be, it doesn't have to be, but there can be more stress with things like that. So things can become kind of unbalanced. But anyway, that 90-10 is like, that's not something you want to mess with. You want to have it, you want to have your time commitment to the things that you don't want to do.

Starting point is 00:53:52 And you should be able to flip it as you get older, but you're going to have to develop a skill set and you're going to have to develop a monetizable brain, a monetizable mindset to have something that's valuable so you can flip that around. Yeah. When you were paraphrasing what Jordan Peterson was saying in regards to like, it's your obligation, you know, to kind of pursue this or whatever. I can't remember who else it was. It might have been Steven Pressfield. But basically, it's kind of like your duty. Like you're put here on this earth for it. And, you know, talk about zooming out 10 years from now. Like when you were powerlifting, were you doing it for anybody else? Like period. No.

Starting point is 00:54:19 And I think that's what drew people to it. Yeah. So, well, that's amazing. People like this guy doesn't care. Like he wears this weird hat and it's sideways or backwards or whatever the weird nonsense I was doing and rapping and just like, just, yeah, just having fun. It's for me. Yeah, it was all for you. When I was working on my photography, it was because I didn't want to go back to my regular job.

Starting point is 00:54:39 Like, I wanted to just break away from that. But even for myself in doing that and now being a part of the podcast, like we do have people that work for us now or they work with us, but you know what I mean? Like the podcast has helped families now, you know? And like, so if I wasn't here, maybe that wouldn't happen as successfully, you know, kind of tooting my own horn here, but like for yourself with, you know, powerlifting, I don't really need to say too much, but like you've helped a lot of people and it's all because you were kind of focused in on your thing. This is your, your thing, your passion. I'm going to go all in on

Starting point is 00:55:15 this for myself. And then 10 years later, it's like, oh, wait a second. I'm impacting the entire world now. So it was more than just your obligation to pursue your passion. It was why you were put on this planet. You know, you were meant to do bigger things than just your typical, you know, whatever, eight to five person. Although that person's also put here for something, but maybe that person thinks it's too late. How do you break that weird feeling of somebody? break that weird feeling of somebody you can throw in any age and everybody will think oh i missed the wave from you know 20s to 30s 40s 50s everyone probably feels like it's too late how can you help somebody get over that weird thought i think the only people that will feel like they're missing out are people that you know maybe get a look behind the curtain or they're like, Oh, that's what everybody's talking about. Holy shit. It just like, Whoa. Um,

Starting point is 00:56:15 it would be like, uh, it would be like entering like a new, a new world or something you know um or um there is something really amazing about figuring something out i don't know if people know what i'm talking about but like i don't know if you've ever been driving and you've heard a quote or heard something on a podcast or and it just hits you so hard like you're almost like i i should pull the car over right now for a minute this is oh this insanity. Because whatever it was that they said connected the dots in your brain over to the other side that was like disconnected for some reason. And I hope people know what I'm talking about, but I have parts of Davis, California. I live in Dixon, but I have parts of Davis that are like, they're cut off for me.

Starting point is 00:57:01 I can't link them together. I'm like, wait, how do I get from this street over here to this street? How do I get to this school or how do I get to this area over here? And they're not connected. They're connected by other roads because I know those roads. Those are familiar. I'm like, I need to backtrack and go over those other roads. But sometimes you get a message or you see something and it just connects that stuff together once and for all for you. So sometimes there's like a quote or something that you hear where it brings all that

Starting point is 00:57:30 together. And you feel that like I get in goosebumps even just thinking about it because it's been so transformative to me so many different times, so many different ways. And it's sort of foolish in some ways because you've heard people say similar things, but for whatever reason, they didn't like land on you the right way at that time. And I think timing is everything. So with the person that, you know, with the person that kind of wants out and they want to start making adjustments, they're not even going to really realize that they want out. They've been inside this coffee mug, you know, for 20 years and they're like, this is great, man. This is awesome. Like every morning they dump a bunch of coffee in here and it's awesome. And just swim

Starting point is 00:58:11 around the coffee and they just think that that's cool, but they don't really realize like you don't have to just be a coffee mug. You could be a shaker cup or you could be a bigger cup or a smaller cup or a bottle, a ninja blender or yeah, or or a bottle a ninja blender or yeah or a ninja ninja blender you could be um you don't have to be uh what kenny calls poverty water like the crystal geyser uh water you get from the gas station that's super we've talked about water sucks well it's super crinkly like i have a fuji right now that i'm or or Fiji rather, that I'm, uh, that I put up to the microphone and it only does that. But the crystal geysers, like,

Starting point is 00:58:48 it's, it's just like a bag. Yeah. You're like, what is this thing? When you go to open that thing, like you, you basically have to like grip it.

Starting point is 00:58:56 But if you grip it too much, it fucking, it shoots water everywhere. It's, it's terrible. You could be a glass bottle of Pellegrino for God's sake. Could you imagine? You understand what I'm saying? He could be opaque. Yeah. What else grano for god's sake could you imagine you understand

Starting point is 00:59:05 what i'm saying he could be opaque yeah what else could we be i guess well i was gonna this is a family show i looked up at our uh oh yeah at our display yeah i've seen a pump of sorts but yeah you don't want to be one of those yeah yeah that's true you going to get used and abused. Yeah, so I think it's hard to even think outside the box when you're like, I have a job, and that job allows me, provides me on the weekend to go fishing. I get to go skiing with my kids in the summertime when they have off from school or in the summertime skiing. I get to go on water ski. I get to ski with my kids when I have off in the wintertime and things like that. So your job does provide you some things where you're like,

Starting point is 00:59:54 oh, that's cool. But I think some of that, not all the time, I think some of that sometimes is a little bit of a trap, just like the company car. car you know i you know i make 80 but i really make like 110 because they gave me a company car it's like no you actually make 80 but i have really really good benefits that i only have to pay like half of what everyone else pays like it's it's tight right right and and hey look making eighty thousand dollars a year is a blessing making anything over like sixty thousand dollars,000 a year I think is a huge blessing,

Starting point is 01:00:28 and it could be a step in a great direction for you. But I just think that sometimes we get kind of trapped by the dollar amount even. Like even if you were making $120,000 or $150,000, that sounds cool. But what are you leaving on the table? You know, let's, let's zoom again, let's zoom back out again. You know, here lies Andrew Z. Like he was awesome. He was, he was such a great dad. He was such a great, this great that. But, you know, we also know like, not that anyone's going to say this, you know, when you're dead, but we also know how much he was into cars and how much he was into

Starting point is 01:01:06 he he started really talking a lot about jujitsu but he you know he just he never went he had those cars he was gonna work i never worked on him he's talking about podcasts he never he never did that one either you know but he well he was really nice he was a really sweet guy you know but it would have been cool to see. I wonder what he would have, you know. So if you can zoom out and think like, man, it's just like they're not even really risks, I don't think. They're not that bad. They're not that bad. Every once in a while, they're every once in a while, they're tough.

Starting point is 01:01:41 But I think anyone that can see outside the coffee mug that they're trapped in, um, you need to take a little risk. You need to, you need to try to make that leap, make that jump because what you're going to, I was explaining this to somebody the other day. They're like, I have an opportunity. I have this crazy opportunity. Like I could give X percentage of my company to this superstar person and like, boom, off to the races, this would go. Right. And, um, I was like, well, okay, there's two ways of looking at that. One is like, that is crazy because you haven't been in business that long. Like that is, that is amazing. Like that is, you should really pat yourself on the back

Starting point is 01:02:25 because that is, I have not even ever heard of that before. Like that's wild. So there's that. The second thing is like that could work out and that could be amazing. The third thing is, and still on the positive side is, if that guy takes X percentage of this company, If that guy takes X percentage of this company, then I should be – I should understand that I have the ability to build other companies and other brands since I just built this one and I'm talking to this guy that's such a hot commodity.

Starting point is 01:02:58 I'm talking to this person that big of a risk because you're still so valuable. And I shared this before with Ryan Spencer. Ryan Spencer has been a friend of mine for a long time. We have to have him back on the show, by the way. We've got to get him on the podcast. long time. We have to have him back on the show, by the way. We've got to get him on the podcast. He's an absolute animal, absolute beast in there.

Starting point is 01:03:28 You know, political muscle in there, deadlifting five plates for reps and shit like that. Weighs like 170. He does it by himself in the morning. He does it by himself at like 5 a.m. He's just an absolute animal. He's got two kids, somebody I really admire.

Starting point is 01:03:44 But it was years and years ago and he was really sweating it about this job and he had this other kind of job opportunity and it wasn't really like a, it wasn't like a move real forward. It was more like a lateral move and he and I discussed it. I'm like, Ryan, you, do you understand? Like all the people that I know, I know a lot of people and most of them are really stupid, unfortunately. But I said, you're one of the smartest guys that I know. And you're, you're, you work super hard. So this move that you're thinking about making, let's say you make the move and let's say the move doesn't work. You're three weeks in and you're like, Oh my God, this is not working. let's say the move doesn't work you're three weeks in you're like oh

Starting point is 01:04:25 my god this is not working it's not like you can't get another job like you already have all the capacity is already there you already have all these skill sets no one can take any of that away from you so even if you switch jobs and let's hypothetically say everyone hated you no one would hate him because he's super sweet he's a very nice guy in a lot of different ways but let's say that was the case and let's say that his skill set wasn't matching up to that job, which that wouldn't be the case either because he's super smart. If any of those things were the case, he could just bounce on over to another job. Now that does seem scary, but I'm like, even if you were to lose a little bit of money, you currently don't dig what you're doing.

Starting point is 01:05:06 Like you're not, you don't love it right now. You don't love what you're doing and you used to love it. So even if it's less pay, which I don't think it even was, but even if it is less pay, what if you're waking up in the morning, like 30 minutes earlier, cause you're more pumped to go to work. You got a little extra pep in your step. Sometimes too, like depending on the type of job that you have, if you are, if you're kind of, if you're kind of like more than enough qualified, like overqualified for a particular job position, who's to say that you can't develop like a side hustle somewhere? You know, so let's say that you do go and work somewhere and it's for a little less money. Um, but you are really experienced. You should be able to write your own check a little bit, not in terms of the money,

Starting point is 01:05:55 but you should be able to say, Hey, look, I've been doing this for 15 years. You know, here's, here's what I can bring to the table. Um you cool with me taking every Friday off or taking half days on Friday and you can spend extra time with your family or whatever it is that it amounts to be? But in this job that you can work a lot easier and more efficiently and have wrapped up earlier in every single day, you might be able to develop that online business that you always wanted to do. You might be able to pursue something else. And I told my wife the same thing when she, my wife years ago wanted to quit the job that she was at and she was pretty upset and stuff. I said, go in tomorrow and quit. She's like, I, she's like, I can't do that. You know? I'm like, why not? I I mean you had the job for two years we can if we had to we can collect unemployment or whatever the case was at the time and I was like

Starting point is 01:06:52 you know that you can make a similar amount like you can fill in that job within a month you know she's like I don't know if we have a month. I was like, we got, we're good. We're good. We have, you'll probably get a job faster than that. But anyway, she switched jobs and ended up in a job where she didn't have to be in the office as much. And then it kind of just parlayed into us being able to make Power Magazine. with my own career where I've moved into somebody else's gym when I already had my own gym. That provided me the comfort of making the gym free. That provided me the comfort of not having to be on the hook to actually coach people as much and to train people as much and to think more freely. I went on more walks. I thought about powerlifting more rather than just like actually doing powerlifting. And I created the slingshot. Like a lot of those things, they wouldn't have happened without having more freedom. Because I still needed to, I was still in the process of developing the skill sets.

Starting point is 01:08:01 But you can't think of something like the slingshot without a skill set within a given field. It's just not going to happen. You either have to be a coach in that, or you have to be a participant. Like someone from the outside isn't going to really be able to think of a cool idea for that particular sport unless they have some experience and the experience could be through somebody else like John Donaher he's uh well he's a practitioner as well and a really high level one but he's the most famous jiu-jitsu coach out there right now he could think of something in jiu-jitsu because he lives in it all the time now like his friend that maybe doesn't practice jiu-jitsu it's going to be harder but he might hear him talk about it all the time. Now, like his friend that maybe doesn't practice jujitsu,

Starting point is 01:08:45 it's gonna be harder, but he might hear him talk about it all the time. He might say, hey, you ever think about making this? And the other, he might go, whoa. And that's where you can actually have that. But you have to have the experiences within those given fields to be able to think that way. Otherwise, it's hard to think outside the box.

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