Mark Bell's Power Project - Mark Bell's Power Project EP. 237 - What About Kids Diet?

Episode Date: August 17, 2019

Today Mark Bell, Nsima Inyang and Andrew Zaragoza talk about what they ate growing up and all the awesome bad food they lived on. Mark and Andrew give insight on how they get their kids to eat healthier and things parents can implement right now. ➢SHOP NOW: https://markbellslingshot.com/ Enter Discount code, "POWERPROJECT" at checkout and receive 15% off all Sling Shots Find the Podcast on all platforms: ➢Subscribe Rate & Review on iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/mark-bells-power-project/id1341346059?mt=2 ➢Listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/4YQE02jPOboQrltVoAD8bp ➢Listen on Stitcher: https://www.stitcher.com/podcast/mark-bells-power-project?refid=stpr ➢Listen on Google Play: https://play.google.com/music/m/Izf6a3gudzyn66kf364qx34cctq?t=Mark_Bells_Power_Project ➢Listen on SoundCloud: https://soundcloud.com/markbellspowerproject  FOLLOW Mark Bell ➢ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/marksmellybell ➢ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/MarkBellSuperTraining ➢ Twitter: https://twitter.com/marksmellybell ➢ Snapchat: marksmellybell Follow The Power Project Podcast ➢ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/MarkBellsPowerProject Follow Nsima Inyang ➢ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/nsimainyang/  Podcast Produced by Andrew Zaragoza ➢ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/iamandrewz

and sema doesn't have the problem his doesn't get limp oh no it definitely does there we go oh we're talking about mics yeah wait huh now my mic stays stiff i'm pretty sure that that got caught on the stream and and i've already titled it like kids diet oh god so it's on the stream it's not oh my god no one heard it yeah nobody heard nothing heard it anything nobody heard anything there you go cool yeah we're we're good to go we're going we're live we're going oh my god what'd you grow up eating in sima fufu and a goosey soup where did all this start what kind of soup

for all the nigerians that maybe listen understand that but like um yeah uh at least at home my mom like she was very health conscious so i ate a lot of rice i had like a lot of carbs um and those carbs like it's just like that's what we ate as like africans like we ate there's this pounded yam called fufu so you it's like this it's this flour that you put together you have soup and you just take it and you put it in the soup and you eat it you eat it with your hand and there's usually like a lot of goat meat and maybe beef and chicken in there right um say pounded yam yeah there's pounded yam and yeah like that's that's the uh-huh oh like which god i'm hungry now fufu is the first one

right there um that sounds really good yeah like. Like you just, you take it. Pound it into like almost like a, like a mushy, like a bread type of thing almost. Yeah. Yeah. And then you could tear some off. It's sticky. So you like, you, you know, roll it up, you put it in the soup, you dip it in the soup, you put it in your mouth.

And there'd be some days I'd eat fufu for breakfast. Some of my friends would make fun of me. They'd be like, Nsema eats fufu for breakfast. But like, that was like my breakfast on some days. And then what the soup like what kind of is it like a broth or something yeah yeah no like my mom would make thicker soup but she'd put a lot of greens in it because i mentioned like she's health conscious a lot of this food inherently is not healthy but my mom liked to like make african food in a healthier way so she would put like a lot of greens uh like asava leaves no cassava leaves spinach a bunch of different type of greens together it tastes really good

with a bunch of meat and i'd eat that i'd eat rice and stew and there'd be like a lot of like meat and stuff in the stew with some veggies and i want some of that looks good it actually it actually is really good it looks real filling too like satisfying yeah it is really good. It looks real filling too, like satisfying. Yeah, it is really filling. It is really satisfying. Even like, and this is off it, but my mom, she learned how to use oatmeal. Instead, she created, because literally no one else did this.

And a lot of people have started doing it now. She made oatmeal fufu. So she'd blend oatmeal and then use it as the base and then like she'd make it so that you could use it and take the oatmeal like fufu and put it in soup and eat it anyway body builders probably love that they would love it yeah i grew up eating a lot of like really high carb um good a decent amount of protein food but outside of the house when i'd go to school or other places i would I would get my sweet. I would get all my sweets and everything I really wanted.

You go over certain people's houses too, right? When you're a kid and they have all the cereal and everything else. Yeah, or cookies or anything like that. I'd get that at other places. I would be able to have some cereal at home, but it's usually like Raisin Bran. If I was lucky, I'd get some Frosted Flakes. But but he's usually raisin bran yeah yeah raisin bran's pretty good the yeah the normal one when i got raisin bran crunch when i became when i got older raisin bran crunch is the one with all the sugar it has like it's really really good and that's what i would uh go crazy on nice

when i was a kid my um my dad was moving up the corporate ladder in IBM. And so, you know, I think like, and then also maybe just like the household he grew up in with eight siblings. You know, they, my grandfather did well. But, you know, with eight kids, like how well can you really do? But with eight kids, how well can you really do? And so I think my dad and my mom were probably, and especially my mom. My mom grew up poor or poor-ish for a while. And she also had eight brothers and sisters, a ton of family members.

And so I think because of that, my parents were trying to overcompcompensate and make sure that their children had like everything and then some. And so as a kid, like I had everything at my disposal, especially like I remember like as I became, you know, more like a teenager or between the ages of like 11 and like 15 or so. I just remember like there was like cookies in the pantry. There was cereal. We had ice cream. And my mom and dad were always trying to diet. They were always trying to do something. And so I was aware of like diet, but that was like for them.

That was like an adult thing for them to do. And they would do like mess around with like Weight Watchers or like Slim Fast where, have like two drinks a day and then you eat at dinner and stuff. So I wasn't really aware of like nutrition. I didn't really know, uh, much until later when I got more and more into like lifting, I got into lifting at around 12 and then probably about like 14, 15 is when I started to explore a little bit more about nutrition and learn about like protein and that kind of stuff but um yeah a lot of just a lot of crap a lot of junk food i remember going over my friend's house after school almost every single day and he and i would just polish off a bag of uh a bag of doritos like every single day i was like normally just sit there and like watch cartoons and just kind of

hang out and then like i'd walk you know i'd walk home to my house and then just hang out and i'd sit there and eat cookies and like play nintendo or whatever keep the party going yeah keep the party going and there was like like i don't really remember my um and i'm sure they did at some point but like i don't really remember my parents telling me like you know put something back or like hey like who ate all the cookies or like there was no restrictions or rules or or really uh anything on any of that stuff so it was just it was just there all the time free for all free for all yeah i ate horribly when i was a kid oh god it was terrible so both parents worked um so it was just you you know, walk to school, walk home from school and what was available, frozen burritos, frozen corn dogs.

And that was pretty much it. Like that's all I ate now. Foods. Yeah. Dinner time, uh, you know, Mexican food was great, but I think, yeah, after learning more, like what Mark said on the previous podcast, like eat, eat some Doritos and then try to eat a steak. So it's like, I just got done eating, like, I don't know, say something like Easy Mac. It's like, yeah, I actually know I don't want tacos now.

Even though they're made with, like, asada and they're really good and they're very well prepared, I just wasn't into it. When I was way younger, it was just a lot of, like, beans and rice. You know, when I was in, uh, I think, uh, either kindergarten or first grade, I would take, uh, just like toast, refried beans. And that was it. That's all I ate for lunch. And I would have still been eating that. But once I got into like second grade, people made fun of me for eating beans. Cause everyone's like, Oh, you're just going to keep farting all day long. And then, so like, I got all upset and I'm like, I don't want, I don't want bean sandwiches anymore. But like, that's all I ate. It was like, so I don't know how much protein is in beans, but like it was not a lot.

Yeah. You know, it was all carbs. And yeah, when I got home, it was just always just frozen everything. And that's probably what jacked me all up. Yeah. How about like, how do you guys feel about physical activity? What did that make a difference for you? Because, okay, you weren't eating the greatest, but do you feel that the lifting and all that stuff you did kinds of stuff. So I was never really without and basketball. I was never really without like movement.

And then at one point I was kind of getting fat. I was gaining some weight and my coach for track, she said, you know, no one's going to come out for this track team and just throw the shot put. And that was me. I was like, that was my plan. I was like, I'm just going to throw the shot put. I'm not doing any of the running stuff, you know? And she's like, everyone's, you know, everyone's going to run.

So they made us run and I weighed like 230 or 220 and it got down to like 190, you know, just from running. No effort at all. No, no real difference in nutrition. Just that was a big change. The other thing I forgot to mention too, is my mom cooked like every meal. My mom cooked every, you know, every dinner for us. And I do think obviously like a home cooked meal could be just as like, uh, you know, over the top in terms of calories as anything else. But I do think there's a difference between, you know, getting home cooked meals, uh, as opposed

to just, you know, eating pizza all the time, you know, and we had like spaghetti and meatballs and my mom had kind of like different things she would do on different days. We had chili, and we ate bread and pastas and butter and shit like that. But at least it was home-cooked, and at least, I guess my point is, a lot of times a home-cooked meal, at least there's some sort of thought process going behind like protein. There's always some sort of protein. It's like you have chicken in this, or you have steak in that, or you have meatballs and, and you know, pasta or whatever it is. But at least there's like

part of the main ingredient of the whole thing is there's always going to be some sort of protein associated with everything. So at least we had that. But for me, yeah, I was, i was exercising a lot and without that though without the exercise i would have been a fat fuck yeah did you get a lot uh wait what was that did you get like did you get like sports or anything yeah um sports was huge in the house in the household every day like we're watching like it's funny like people always tell me like oh do you remember like this nickelodeon movie or you know tv show or whatever i'm like dude since like third grade i've been watching nothing but sports and like that's it like we didn't have cartoons like you

know that that was it yeah um and so like i played basketball all the time played baseball soccer played all the sports when i was younger and then as i got older we just like rode bikes everywhere like we we weren't really in the house much often. And a Mexican family, so I didn't have that many friends, but I had tons of cousins. And we would always be playing football on the street or, like I said, riding bikes. And then it wasn't until junior high when I officially stopped playing actual sports. Like I've said on the podcast before, that's like all the kids got way bigger and stronger than me and it pushed me the opposite way instead of trying to like push me to like work hard or work out hard um so i was always moving but because of my body type it

wouldn't have mattered i'm pretty sure i would have stayed skinny like i mean i i ate like crap you know like we didn't drink soda i don't why. I just wasn't drawn to sweet stuff. But yeah, like I would try to get pizza like every night. And if it wasn't that, it was frozen pizza. You know, like cereal for breakfast every day. Like it was like it was all really, really bad. Like all carbs. I think a lot of people have kids that are like in that spot

you know and and it seems like the kids are not even open to eating anything else but you have to try i still think as a parent and it's hard it's a hard thing it's like this constant but it's like your job as a parent to kind of be a pain in the ass and uh it's hard you know but you do have to insert yourself in some situations because especially today because kids aren't playing sports the way they used to yeah um you know i played a lot of football and stuff like that and like because you're excited about football and everybody else plays football then you all get together and you play football on the street or you play basketball on the street or baseball or whatever sport it is

um but because people barely even watch those sports, I mean, people don't really watch in sports as much anymore. And I think it's just, we're just in a different world, you know, that there's so many other distractions away from any reason why, again, like the Dorito versus the steak comparison I always make, right? But what about, you know, messing around on your phone versus going out in the street? Like, leave me alone. I'm going to mess around on my phone because like I have access to everyone in the world right now. I have access to

everything in the world. I can play whatever game or communicate in whatever way I want. I can be in a fantasy world where it doesn't matter if I'm strong, I'm weak, I'm fast, I'm slow. I'm in this world and I can rule it because I know how to play this game. It doesn't matter if I know how to kick a spinner in kickball, you know, and it doesn't matter, you know, right. You're like your status, you're like your strength and your prowess, your physical prowess doesn't matter, right? Now you have, you know, the strength is in your fingertips, I guess. And so it's just different and you've got all these distractions. As a parent, though, it's important that you try to figure out a way to, you know, have some sort of nutritional discipline into what your kids are doing.

It doesn't mean that they're eating chicken and broccoli, but it just means that as often as you can, whenever you can, you're trying to slip in something that is just a better option than maybe what they want to choose. I think what you said earlier was like mixing stuff. Yeah. You know, like, yeah. So like somebody just mentioned that their kids, like they'll struggle to eat proteins. But if they make them monster mash, like they'll tear it up.

And that's basically what I have to do with Jasmine now too. like they'll tear it out and that's that's basically what i have to do with jasmine now too you know i think kind of like not hiding it but just making it more than just here's your steak here's your chicken have fun it's like no here's some noodles and go ahead and put the alfredo sauce on it too so at least you're getting it in yeah you know when i it's kind of weird because when i think back to when i was a kid if you did give me like a full-on steak or something i would not want to eat that like you gave me a ribeyeye that I wouldn't want to eat a ribeye. Yeah. And we talked about it before kids, they don't want to have a like sunny side up eggs, you

know, like over easy eggs. Kids are like, that's disgusting. They want them scrambled, right? Or they want cheese. So you have to be reasonable with your kids and try to come up with something that maybe they like. Maybe they want to, you know, maybe instead, maybe they don't really like eggs, but maybe they like French toast.

It's like, well, French toast, they're still getting some protein from the egg or you make them a, a breakfast sandwich or something like that in the morning. You know, I've done a lot of things like that for my kids. Um, I still cook for my kids here and there. And as they start school again, I'll, I'll start cooking for them again. And I try to cook them, you know, some, some sort of eggs and bacon almost every morning. And every once in a while they're like, Oh, eggs and bacon again. I'm like, all right, let's switch it up. I'll have like French toast. I tried, I tried a bunch of different things and

they didn't like most of them. So we tried to keep it, you know, to things that they enjoy. Cause otherwise like, what's the point, you know? Yeah. That is crazy. I did have a lot of eggs for breakfast growing up. My mom would make scramble some eggs with some plantain. So it was like a big old protein and some carbs. Yeah. Wow. That was good stuff. Eggs cook up easy. You know, like there's really not a lot of excuses on why you can't cook up a couple of eggs. I mean, it takes like four minutes basically, you know, if you're going to scramble them, I mean, you just whip them up and throw them in the pan you're you're good to go like it doesn't take very long to do it yeah yeah definitely over medium is the way to go though just putting that out there i like something side up now as an adult but um do you like because i've

heard this i've heard this more than once which is like something that is very interesting to me. Um, when like an, an, an adult individual comes to have wanted to work with me, um, ask them if they have snacks in the house. They're like, yeah. I'm like, okay, let's get rid of those. Like, but the kid, you know, like they have it, they're like, Oh, the Doritos. But I, the kid likes it. And I'm just like, well, maybe we should get it out of the house because for everybody, you know what I mean? So how do you feel about like people having, you know, snacks in their home for their children, even if it's healthy snacks for their kids?

How do you feel about that? Yeah, it would be great to remove all snacks from everybody. But I think, you know, I think that is probably important to have some things around for your kids, especially like, you know, they don't really know how to prepare some stuff for themselves. Now, maybe that's another topic too, right? Maybe they should know how to prepare a couple things themselves. Like a kid should know how to like make a sandwich or make a PB&J. Like I think most of us would agree that like peanut butter and jelly sandwich is not really that harmful. It's like a kid eats a peanut butter and jelly sandwich every day. I ain't got a problem with it. Right. Yeah. It's great. It

tastes good. Kids are used to it. They like it. Um, but I mean, you know, you're, it's still not the healthiest option, but when it comes to snacks, I think kids are just so used to snacks. Now the problem with snacks is that the kid, again, the kid will eat something that's really flavorful. And then now they have dinner, which is like, you know, probably some sort of meat-based something or other that doesn't have that same snap or that same pop as the maybe Rice Krispie treat or something that they ate, right? And so I think you've got to be strategic with even the snacks that we pick.

And I think when I think of snacks that might be a little bit more acceptable, might be a little bit better when I'm thinking about something that's dry or like a chip or something. I'm thinking like a pretzel might be a little bit better of an option than a regular potato chip. Now, the kid's obviously going to like the potato chips more, but maybe there's a type of pretzels that you can find that tastes a little bit better that they would enjoy. And again, hopefully the point of these snacks and stuff is also this, hopefully they don't love it so much that they want to eat tons and tons of it. Hopefully they only like it enough for it to actually be a snack. You know, like that should be the goal. But a lot of the things they're putting in these hundred calorie bags,

you would think that that's convenient, but go and look in my pantry, especially when my nieces and nephews have been over. And I don't know why, I don't know what the deal is of why the wrapper can't end up in the garbage, but the wrapper ends up somehow just staying in the pantry. I think they like rip them open. They're so excited and they dump them into like a bowl and then they take off with them. And so there's wrappers always like, you know, in my closet. So those don't, you know, give you the great option that you think.

However, if you're sending your kid off to school with that, maybe that is not a bad option because you are guaranteed. Like, okay, that's a hundred calorie thing. And then they have their sandwich and they have this and that and they got their milk and they're good to go. You know, my mom learned real quick to hide the snacks, even the healthy snacks. Because if she kept it in like a pantry or somewhere where I could get to it, man, I would take like six, seven. I'd just run with it. You know, I'd eat it all and she'd be like, I would take like six, seven. I just run with it,

you know, eat it all. And she'd be like, why did these run out so fast? Oh, no, it wasn't me. It wasn't me. You know,

full. Yeah. And you want to try to think about things that your kids might still like that are that, you know, a lot of snacks are just like dead processed food, right? It's just like, it's just junk.

It's a, some form of like wheat and sugar or some sort of wheat and like salty type shit on there, right? And it's just, it's not really of any nutritional value. It's not really going to push anybody forward. It's not going to help anybody with growth. It might be something that makes them happy for 10 seconds while they're watching TV, but it doesn't really, it doesn't really do anything for them. So you might want to try to think about, you know, what are some nutrients I can get my kid that would be beneficial that the kids still might enjoy? Then you might think, okay, well, how about some like yogurt?

Like yogurt can be a pretty good option. Then you have to start to kind of like weigh your options on, you know, how many calories is yogurt going to have? How much sugar is it going to have? But I think, look, a kid eating some yogurt, a kid eating some, like my son likes cottage cheese a lot. Not everybody likes cottage cheese. He digs it.

So I'm like, fucking great. We'll buy cottage cheese all the time. Quinn likes yogurt. So we buy yogurt all the time. We even buy just the regular Yoplait yogurt that has sugar in it. I'm not really obsessed with, I'm not excited about it having that much sugar in it, but it doesn't really have a lot of calories.

Yeah. And I'd rather have her have that than to eat like a bunch of potato chips. Right. So I'm trying to find out, okay, this isn't, uh, necessarily go with mesh well with like what I have in my mind for nutrition, but it's better than what, what she would otherwise do. So you have any sort of dairy can really be beneficial. Even milk, milk can be great. And then also you have,

um, cheese sticks, cheese sticks are like a God, God send for kids. You see kids running around with cheese sticks all the time. And that's probably where most of American kids get protein from is from that. And maybe a hot dog. That's crazy.

Yeah. Um, do you think it's, uh, like, so you're saying it's like almost like making like a compromise. Uh, do you think that's like pretty good advice for people to start?

Like, uh, you know, you're saying like, yeah, I don't want them to have the sugar filled Yoplait, but it's a great, that's a great place for anyone to start and anyone adult or otherwise.

So, you know, if you're going to go to a restaurant, like think about when you go to a restaurant, a lot of times you go and you're like, I'm not sure if I want to get this, this or this. Usually like there's two or three things that catch your eye. Pick the, pick the one thing that you feel is the best option out of those three. Maybe one thing is, is ribs. Maybe another thing is a bacon cheeseburger with fries. And maybe the last thing is a steak and a baked potato.

But you got your eye kind of on all three already. So it's like, well, go with the steak and baked potato. And even the bacon cheeseburger probably is still a better option than the ribs. Right? So it's like just just try your damn best that you can and um you know maybe you don't add a soda to that maybe you just have you know water or diet drink or something like that yeah and i'd say try not to even order for your kids off of the kids menu right i've said it before um like a handful of times but like

spaghetti factory we love going there and if you look at the kids menu, there's no protein on any single item that they offer. It is pasta and some kind of marinara or some sort of sauce. And that's it. Do you think that's what businesses do to save some money? They're like, let's not give these kids no meat. They don't need it. to save some money. They're like, let's not give these kids no meat. They don't need it. Yeah, I mean, I don't know,

but that makes some sense. Yeah. So yeah, Jasmine's not allowed to order off of a kid's menu anymore. That's smart. I think, you know, the second you sit down too,

they serve you bread. You know, it's like the second you sit down and I've had to tell them before, like, don't bring bread. I've had to tell them like, can you maybe like,

wait till we put in our order and that way you bring like one thing of bread that way it's not because my kids like the bread will be gone the bread will be gone and i don't blame them bread's fucking delicious i love bread i don't really want them and i don't even think that bread is bad but i don't want them filling up on bread not being able to complete the entree that they got which which hopefully is a decent option in terms of nutrition and then what do they want after they eat can we get dessert it's like you just ate bread and butter now you want fucking dessert like no you can't have dessert like you you made a bad choice already you're done you're done with your bad choices yeah yeah you know how do you feel about well well, first off, I think we should mention, you know how we fast, right?

I don't think kids necessarily fast, right? They get hungry, though. Yeah. I felt fasted as a kid. I remember coming home from school feeling like I was starving. I remember that. Yeah. I think fasting for kids would be great, but I think people would think you're a lunatic.

You're right. That would be like, people would be like, that's child abuse. Yeah. I remember being in school just starving, though, looking at the clock, waiting for lunchtime to come around. I was more in junior high, but I just remember being like, man, this should be illegal how hungry I am right now. I think if every kid just ate when they came home from school,

then there would be no fat kids. But I also think that, you know, people would be outraged and think that that's the most crazy thing they've ever heard in their lives. No, you're right. I think back to like, even like my metabolism, though, when I was a kid or a teenager, I ate a lot of food, but like I was growing, you know what I mean? Like, I wonder how, like, if one should even try to regulate that for a child that's growing and active, right? You just let them eat when they want to eat. Right.

You know, but make sure they're eating healthy. Well, just I think you go back to thinking about survival and you think about like people might think, oh, kids need carbs. And it's like, oh, I mean, they probably didn't used to really have the access to eating carbohydrates all day long. And if they did eat carbs, I mean, I think we could all agree that, and it doesn't mean that we have to eat this way now, but I think that everyone can understand that we used to probably hunt our own food. I'm just imagining this is the way it all happened. I don't even really know.

We'd hunt our own food. We'd get a certain amount of food. We would share it all and we would eat it all until the food went like bad or until we ate it all. And then you would go a few days where there wasn't really much food. You'd probably go through a lot of winters and stuff where, you know, three, four days went by and you, so everyone probably is, everyone is probably accustomed to fasting. We probably all possess the ability to fast, whether we're 65 years old

or whether we're three. You know, I just, in today's age, I don't know if we see it or have done it here. Like in the United States, I don't really know if they've done any like fasting studies on kids or anything, or even if they would even allow anyone to even do them. But trying to get the kids good nutrition and trying to keep them,

uh, uh, from avoiding just eating crappy food all day long. Like it doesn't have to be, you know, just, there's certain things like at my house when we have parties and stuff, like if we have cookies and things, I'll watch the kids, the kids will pick off a bunch of cookies and I'll kind of like, I'm not like, I'm not like a, at least I don't think I am. I'm not like a hawk about it, but I'm like, all right, every kid had a couple of cookies. I'm like, I'm hiding these, you know, I'm, I'm, I'm going to put these away. Like, it's just, everyone had enough. And the kids are always like, where'd the cookies go? I'm like, they're gone for now. They're like, oh man, but they let up and they go back out and they play, you know, they're

over it. But I do think that someone should be trying to police a little bit of what they're eating. I think, you know, kids that are growing, obviously, like we need probably more nutrients than a kid that's already, you know, that's already grown. But how much more is probably not, you know, some crazy amount. We probably don't necessarily need 75 grams of sugar from a Gatorade or something, you know what I mean? Yeah. And Jasmine loves protein powder. How do you feel about kids just having straight protein shakes? Yeah, I think that's fine. I think that's fine. Anything that they're excited about that, you know, remotely resembles protein, I think is a good option. I think parents need to be really cautious of, you know, fake health and to be cautious of thinking that Gatorade is somehow better than, uh, you know, something

else, you know, and, and any juices and all this stuff, like they're not, it's not awful to drink those things. It just doesn't really make a lot of sense, uh, to have that on top of having a lot of other sugar throughout the day. It's like, oh, you had 30 grams of sugar from apple juice and now you're having a Gatorade. And then you had a soda. It's like, man, this shit is really adding up fast. And I think there's actually nothing wrong with explaining to your kids,

especially when you're younger, that this could make you fat. This could lead to you being unhealthy. Look, kids know when people are fat you know kids are crazy kids are crazy kids are nuts with the how blunt and honest they are i remember uh one of uh one of the guys from here dropped me off at at home one time and then like he forgot something he came inside the house he forgot something and he like rang the doorbell rang the doorbell and quinn is like four and, dad, it's one of your fat friends.

Dude. Matt Nickerson. But you know, kid like kids recognize, like, I don't, they're like, whatever that is that that person has going on, they look a lot different than everybody else. And I don't want to look like that. So I don't think there's anything wrong with saying you don't really want to end up being fat. I think it's totally fine. Why not share that with them? And then with my kids as they've gotten older, I don't talk about it anymore because they're teenagers. It's inappropriate for me to bash them about their bodies or anything like that.

I don't want a weird body image. But when they were young, I definitely told them, point was taken, the point's a cross, and they can kind of do whatever they want with it now. Yeah, no, I do think that's necessary. And it has to be done in a smart way because I do know a lot of people who have, again, they have those kind of body image issues right now

because they're like, maybe their mom was trying to make sure that they didn't get fat when they were a kid. And then they think all these things. So it needs to be done, but it needs to be done in a way that's not going to mess them up when they become adults. I think, uh, our guest yesterday was talking about that. She said her mom, you know, her mom said, you know, you're going to have fat thighs like me or something, or you're going to, you're going to have fat legs if you, you don't eat too much. And she was like 14, you know, and that's not a, that's not a great time to try to have like a nutritional intervention with a kid you know

yeah yeah what about parents who are freaked out to uh uh you know in regards to like fake health or whatever um they're trying to be overly conscious and they don't want to give the kids something with like sucralose or like oh yeah you. You know, cause like you see that like, Oh no, no, no, no. Don't give my, my child that sucralose filled thing here,

have some grape juice instead. Right. Uh, well, you know, you're still not doing the right thing by giving them that and then Gatorade and, you know, right.

Crackers and stuff later on. Yeah. I think if your kid, if you can, if you can have your kid, you know, drinking a Gatorade zero, then I think that's great. I think that's good.

Obviously, I think there's a moderation to a lot of this stuff too. Dosage is really a key ingredient in this whole thing. What if your kid likes to have a soda, just a regular Coke, every time they go to the movie theater? Well, that's probably okay. You go to the movie theater twice a month and they have a soda, probably not a huge deal. Um, and then just how big is the soda though? Like, are they getting like the large, like I remember when my kids were young, if they wanted to get something like that, that was sweet. First of all, I'd always have them get Coke zero. And then every once in a while, they still wanted a regular Coke. So I was like, all right, you're going to get small Coke. And I

would also get them water. So I'm like, you know, when you're done drinking your Coke, then you at least have some water and that would work. But at least the calories are chopped way down. We're not trying to drink this giant bucket of soda. I mean, that's a crazy amount of soda to drink at one time. You know what I wonder, or I guess it's not that odd, but you know, you never really taught financial advice in school. Like you got to pay taxes and stuff like that, but you're really not. I'm so taught about like nutrition in general. Like that's supposed to be, that's your parents' job, you know, that, that, that's your parents'

job. But it, it, it's actually super important because I was actually curious, Andrew, do you like, I'm guessing you tell Jasmine why you have her make certain choices or why you're feeding her things sometimes so she knows or not really? How old? I don't even know how old she is. She just turned 11. Okay. Yeah.

So she's so smart. I think she figured out a lot of it on her own. But the main thing has been just, like, you know, putting in her head, like, if you're going to eat something, make sure you have some source of protein. Okay. in her head like if you're gonna eat something make sure you have some source of protein okay um we haven't really explained like hey if you have just like the the bread and the butter like you're gonna get fat or you know we haven't quite done that yeah but um we're just trying to like really just make her um more educated on everything like she can tell you what like what's uh what's gluten-free she can tell you what's low carb yeah and she can tell you out of all the food like which one's the pro obviously that's pretty easy but she's very

knowledgeable when it comes to looking at like a dinner plate and understanding what's what and whether or not like oh can mom have this because she has um she has a gluten intolerance and she can look at it be like no mom can't have that yeah you know but andrew can and you know andrew's trying to gain weight so he needs double that. Because I remember like when I was working out, I started like lifting when I was 13 and I asked my mom to go get me protein shakes. It's like that's what people that lifted drink. Right. If I'd like if I knew how bad excessive amounts of sugar were for me, I know that as a kid that I'd be kind of careful about how much sugar I had even outside. But no one really talked to me about that. I just knew sugar's bad or like it's not not even that it's bad it's just you shouldn't have it not that it's bad you just you shouldn't have that you know they weren't ever telling you any sort of reason why any sort of reason why it's bad for me so I feel like if kids just understood why maybe this is not so good or this is not so good they can then start to self-regulate some things over time you know

yeah that makes a lot of sense and that's probably a conversation we got to have i think they teach you some of it in school but not not a whole lot and i think that in order for it to really probably be taught in school you would have to like and this would probably not be very easy but you'd have to probably bring the parents in on it too. Cause it's like the child's only like a small part of it. The child's just eating like whatever mom and dad is cooking. When I was a football coach, that was something I had to do. I gave all the kids, you know, a nutrition plan, gave them some ideas and stuff. And I said, it would really help if you guys could get your parents here. So maybe like next Friday, when your parents come to pick you up,

I said I'd love the opportunity to talk to them for a while and we'll talk about this nutrition because a lot of the kids, they took what they had on their paper and they took it home. And a lot of kids took it really serious and were like, hey, this is what I need to eat. And then some of the parents were worried about the excess protein and they didn't know. And then the kids wanted supplements, which is nothing. I didn't tell them to get supplements, but they,

that's what high school football kids do. They think they need supplements. But anyway, the parents came in and it was great. We had a great conversation and they asked a lot of questions about supplements. And, you know, I got to talk directly in front of the parents and the kids at the same time. And then they told me the different challenges that they had. And the main thing for these guys was just to keep them eating, but to keep them eating things that are healthy, you know, or at least somewhat healthy, healthier options than maybe what they would normally pick.

How about fruit? Do you think it's okay to just tell kids to kind of go crazy on fruit? Yeah, fruit's great. Fruit's awesome. I mean, it's something to just tell kids to kind of go crazy on fruit? Yeah. Fruit's great. Fruit is fruit's awesome. I mean, it's, it's something you can take with you, right? It's like portable, like, especially like an apple or, or, um, I mean, all of it's kind of portable, but an apple or like a banana, um, you can just kind of throw it in your backpack and you ain't got to worry about it. I mean, you can't like throw grapes in your backpack. They'll end up everywhere. Right. But like, you can just, you can just throw some of that stuff

in your backpack and carry it wherever. I like that a lot for adults as well. Somebody is having a craving, and they're really hungry, and they've got a sweet tooth. It's like eating an apple. And then if you eat an apple and you still have a craving, it's like eating orange. You eat an orange, you still have a craving, eat a fucking banana. It's okay. It's okay to eat some of that stuff. I mean, there's a lot of studies, a lot of stuff that Stan showed,

you know, when people are eating almost like 20 pieces of fruit a day, uh, they were not only not gaining a body fat, but they were continuing to lose weight and they weren't really a hundred percent sure why they think something, uh, you know, possibly with the fiber was helping people poop more maybe. I don't know. But, yeah, I don't think, I never think that fruit is really a problem. You want to look out for, you know, maybe too much fruit juice, especially when the kid's really young and, you know, just getting, just developing. But I think milk is a good option. A lot of kids dig milk.

A lot of kids like milk. And now you have options too. You've got like Fair Life, different types of milk. And maybe once in a while you get them the chocolate milk. You know, because Fair Life has, I think the Fair Life chocolate milk, it does have some sugar in it, but it's not nearly as bad as some of the other chocolate milks that have been around for a while. So anyway, you have,

there's a lot of options with your kids, a lot of different things you can do. Um, you know, I know for myself, it was like, it was kind of good that I was kind of fat. Cause I had to like learn, I had to learn a lot of stuff on my own. I had to figure out a lot of stuff on my own. And I think there was some benefit to that, but it would have been nice if I, if, if I, if I would have known the information that I could have maybe done something with it earlier. Yeah. You know, and I, it wasn't until I was probably maybe like 16 or so to where I started going, oh, okay, now I start to under, I'm starting to understand this more. And, um, you know, there's, there's always better options. I mean, I remember, you know, when I was in high school,

you know, even back then I was messing around with like a keto diet and so I would just get like hamburger patties and I would just eat like four of them. And everyone's like, what are you doing? And I'm like, I'm not really sure, but I think I'm doing like a low-carb diet. They're like, why? And I'm like, I don't know sure, but I think I'm doing like a low carb diet. They're like, why? I'm like, I don't know. I'm trying to lose weight.

I did that in high school, dude. I remember like something like in junior year of high school. The reason I remember is because I remember my friend asking me, why are you so dizzy in SEMA? And I cut out carbs. Like that was when I was cutting out carbs. I'm like, oh, I'm just trying to get a little shredded, man. I heard that you got to cut carbs.

And I was eating like no carbs and I was feeling super was cutting out cars. I'm like, Oh, I'm just trying to get a little shredded, man. I heard that you got to cut carbs and I was eating like no carbs and I was feeling super tired and super dizzy. And like one of my homies was like, you sure that's good for you to like, yeah, man, I'm pretty sure this is how you get shredded. Like I feel awesome.

Yeah. Oh God. Yeah. I did that too. Like how the memory just slapped you right now on the face. Oh my gosh. Yeah. That happens. I had a lot of top ramen oh my gosh. Shit. Yeah, that happens.

I had a lot of Top Ramen in high school. I thought I was cooking food. I ate some of that too. Yeah. Some noodles. Just some straight up noodles. Yeah. I'm sorry if I cut up through your thought.

I just remembered that. I was like, God, I really messed myself up over there. When I was a kid, and I don't know why we had this, but I think it was just like a popular thing at the time. We had a sandwich maker. Like a panini press? Yeah. It kind was just like a popular thing at the time. We had a sandwich maker. Like a panini press? Yeah. It kind of looked like a Foreman grill. Okay, yeah.

But like everybody had them. We had them. Yeah. Everybody had these damn things. And I would always make these like crazy collaborations of sandwiches. And they would never work. And they would never really taste very good. But like I was dead set on like one day like making the perfect you know melted sandwich you

know and it never worked yeah i would do a lot of like uh grilled cheese and like so like cheese works pretty good every time but like a hot ham and cheese like that's what i would make that's what i was trying to do all the time it always tasted like shit and it was like uh i believe it was the same one you can make like omelets with it too right yeah and so i'd always combine just like way too much cheese looks like a foreman griller yeah with with like grooves though i know what you're talking about i think i always like kind of burnt my shit you know i always yeah it just got all yeah i don't know by the time the cheese melted in the middle the outside was already like in fuego yeah yeah did you guys ever use a foreman grill? No, we never, no. Never used a foreman grill. Just the oven.

Yeah. That's how I fed myself in my early 20s. I was just cooking on that like exclusively. Things great. Foreman grill is kind of great. Just make your house smell weird though. Oh yeah. Well yeah, cooking up a lot of meat makes your house stink in general.

Especially with my crock pot meat. My house smells like meat all the time now. You know what though? Like I was, I was thinking about this when you were mentioning like young kids and like sugar. Remember Kyle Kingsbury when he came here and you talked about how like, I don't know, bear, whenever he has like actual sugar, like sugary stuff, he's like, ew, that's nasty. When I, when I remember that, like that's so, and this isn't knocking anybody who has

kids that are a little bit older, but that kind of should be how it should be. Right. You know what I mean? Because like that stuff isn't knocking anybody who has kids that are a little bit older but that kind of should be how it should be right you know what i mean because like that stuff isn't necessarily normal and if you're brought up on it you're you're gonna really really want it like i do what i have but if if like if your kid's young enough you can like you can help them to build a normal palette so that even when they do have these things when they're older and you like you're not watching them or whatever they don't necessarily even really want it that much because it's just too much for them, you know? So. Yeah. They're like, what, like, what is that? Yeah. And they recognize it's not a, not a normal, uh, not a normal food. Yeah. Also too,

you know, a lot of times people, they're like, Oh, I don't know what's wrong with my kid. My kid, you know, is acting up or misbehaving. And it's like, well, I don't know what's wrong with my kid. My kid, you know, is acting up or misbehaving. And it's like, well, your kid just crushed like four cookies and just ate mac and cheese. Like I would be irritable after that too. Like I wouldn't feel great after that either. So, you know, the food is going to really, um, play a huge role in how your kids are acting, how they feel mentally. Um, and and and i've seen kids just like it's not normal for a kid like a young kid who's like two or something yeah okay but like it's not normal for kids to have like a fucking crazy meltdown because they can't have ice cream

you know like that's they shouldn't be that attached to the ice cream in the first place and if they are then it's going to be be a tough bell to like unring really. But, you know, just kind of a, you know, with my kids, you know, they know they can't have ice cream like every night, you know, just, it's simple. It's like you had it last night. Like we're not going to have it all the time. Sometimes we'll buy it. It'll be in the house when it's gone.

It's gone for a while. And then the kids are like, we don't have any ice cream. And it's like, well, it's no emergency. We're not going to run to the store and get ice cream. We're going to wait a little bit and we'll get ice cream again. That way, when you open up the freezer, you say, holy shit, there's ice cream. You're excited by it still. And it's not just like part of what you do after dinner every single night. It's just, it's more sporadic than that, you know? how about uh parents with the kids that are like super picky eaters um i was at chipotle and somebody ordered um a burrito bowl for their kid which uh consisted of beans rice and i beans rice and cheese and that's it i was like whoa that's that looks dangerous like that's not food

that was it and oh yeah they're just super picky like i don't know man i think that was more on the parent than anything yeah some kids are really picky you know and that's that's a really that's a really hard thing to do um some, some kids have conditions too. I mean, some kids are like autistic and stuff and they, there's certain fields of the food. Um, and that's gotta be, that's gotta be really hard, you know, as a parent, you know, luckily I never, I never had to deal with anything like that. Um, I was just talking about like the kid having a meltdown with the ice cream. Sometimes these kids that sometimes have, uh, these challenges, they're just,

you know, a little different than everybody else for whatever reason. Sometimes they flip out if the food's not a certain color, doesn't have a certain texture. And what I would say to that is like, just do the best you can, right? I realize you have other battles to fight and that the days are long and that everything is really hard, But on top of your child having whatever condition that they have, it will not help their condition any further for your child to be obese. So as blunt as that might sound, it's the truth. So you still have to figure out a way. Is there any possibilities at all of this kid getting a little bit better nutrition?

And also, I would say that if there is, I think there's a lot more hope for your child to be able to come out the other end and maybe be able to change some of those behaviors that they have. They might be able to come out the other end a little different because a lot of times the food is some of the precursor to that. That's a tough place to be, though. I have some friends that have had really, really tough spots with that. But then they've also just, they continue to try different foods. And it's like the kid will take the food and launch it across the room, you know, because the kid's frustrated. The kid wants a certain food. But you just keep trying.

You know, that's part of being a parent is that it's very tiring. Yeah. And it wears on you and it takes like, it takes everything that you have and it can be really frustrating. It takes everything that you have and it can be really frustrating. And then also as a parent, like, you know, you, you, it's scary, but it feels like you can't even really like blink because you don't know when something shitty is going to happen to your kid or you don't know. Like every parent, I think every parent has had like the small dose of like, holy fuck, where the fuck's my kid?

Like shit, I, I think, I think I might've lost them. I don't know where they went. My son used to hide all the time in the store in between like the clothing you know but I would always see him go I'd always pay attention where he was so I never had a problem with actually like losing him and my daughter though like whenever we go to the park she would like try to hide behind a tree or she would do this or that so one time i was at the park with quinn and then andy came to the park too andy and i got we were talking and i said hey i'm gonna go uh to this restaurant i said and a lot of times you know when you have a kid it's like it's easier if one person goes and sits down gets a table and maybe orders for everybody and then

you come with the kids later because kids have this, kids are like a ticking time bomb. You don't know when they're going to fucking explode. So you got to order food and you got to get the hell out of there. You're it's like a SWAT team mission that you're on. And so I was like, I'm going to go to this restaurant, which is just in walking distance. I'll order us all some food. I'll sit down. And then when Quinn's kind of done at the park, then you can, you know, walk her down down this way and so then I get a call from Andy and she's all frantic she's like is Quinn with you and I was like what? oh my gosh

and I kind of knew immediately I was like oh she's fucking hiding behind that tree but I sprinted like I don't know maybe like a quarter mile half mile or something I just like burst the door open to this place and just sprinted down where this farmer's market is in Davis

and then went to the park. I'm like, she's behind the tree, I think. And she wasn't behind the tree, but she was actually up in the tree. Oh my gosh, that's terrifying. It was weird because I knew I needed to run towards it to try to explain where I thought she was and I couldn't like

communicate it on the phone that good because Andy didn't know what I was talking about so I just I ran but it didn't feel like I could run

because I feel like I felt like I need to puke like I was that scared and like this weird adrenaline dump was crazy and then like when it got done

I was all like twitching like I just got done doing a heavy set of deadlifts or something terrifying it was nuts I Stephanie doesn't cuss the one time she did was when we may or may not have blinked and wait where's where's jet like what the heck it was at uh I forgot what that park's called it's right next to the Sacramento Zoo it's like a thunderland or something like that she was gonna go down this slide okay cool we're gonna go to the Sacramento zoo. It's like a Thunderland or something like that. She was going to go down this slide. Okay, cool. We're going to go to the front and, you know, watch you come down.

It's like, wait, she was in front of that kid. Like, wait, where'd she go? And then it was like, it was a total of like 10 seconds. But I just remembered like that. Yeah. You do want to puke. Like, it was like, what the heck? Like, it makes you feel sick. Yeah. I'm like, you look for her. I'm sprinting to the front and I'm going to make sure no one like leaves with her at least you know i mean you think the worst thoughts too it's terrifying and oh my god yeah it was all but 10 15 seconds of like where is she and she ended up was like i didn't want to go down that slide i went to a different one it's like you can't do this you know like put her in like can't do this to us yeah yeah she's like what i just wanted to go down the other one like no you know like put her in like can't do this to us yeah yeah she's like what i

just wanted to go down the other one like no yo like i mean obviously i don't have a kid so when you guys are telling me all this stuff i'm like wow oh my god but then i remember like i was that kid who like i literally that's what i did like i like to like drift drift like i love like that it's not even that i like to i just would always just like i would always do that and my mom And my mom would always like, like she didn't lose me, but she'd always be like, oh my God. And then she, she'd like, you know, I got, I got spanked, you know? So like, like, yeah, like, oh, I was a nightmare. I didn't even think about that. I'm sorry.

My daughter, my daughter looks at me like I'm crazy all the time because she's same age as, as, as his daughter because she's uh same age as uh as as his daughter same age same age as jasmine and uh she just looks at me like i'm crazy because like i always tell her how much i love her and like i'm always like hey give me a kiss or like you know just always doing that stuff and she's like dad she's like will you ever let up i'm like no like no never you know and then the kids are like oh we're going to walk the dog i'm like, no. Like, no, never. You know, and then the kids are like, oh, we're going to walk the dog. I'm like, where are you going? They're like, to walk the dog.

I'm like, where? They're like, we're going to the park. I'm like, which park? When are you going to be back? They're like, calm down. I'm like, I didn't know where you're going. Yeah, that's how I am with Stephanie. She's like, I'm going to go check the mail.

I'm like, wearing those shorts? You ain't going. You ain't going nowhere. Yeah, why gonna go check the mail I'm like wearing those shorts you ain't going you ain't going nowhere yeah why do you check the mail check for someone else to come into your life I don't think so but yeah it's yeah it's uh nerve-wracking dude you'll find out someday yeah that's wow even just the idea of having to go to a restaurant beforehand to order the food because when they come they're a little bit too wild or something like that. Like, what? Yeah, well, and one parent has to be ready to figure out a way to fix the situation too. So if one kid's screaming their head off,

like the kids are really little, then one parent just needs to take the kid outside. I hate going. Now, look, if you're at a, you know, a restaurant that caters to families, then, then that's fine. Then you're going to have some screaming kids. Like that's just the way it is. But if you're trying to go somewhere a little nicer and enjoy yourself, then you can't have your kid like spoil dinner for everybody else. You know? So I'd always take like jake or or quinn or whatever

i'd take them out or even my nephews i never minded like leaving the dinner table for a few minutes and just going outside for a walk it cures them every time they're totally fine they just need to be distracted you just can't sit there that long like a dinner a lot of times takes like an hour wow that's forever for a kid remember being a kid yeah remember when you were a kid you're like man adults suck they do nothing for so long boring oh my i'm bored and then they eat dinner and then like drink coffee after dinner and they're just sitting there laughing telling the stories yeah i just want to play video games i want to go home play sega yeah come on that's all i did is play sega and eat corn. No, I played a lot of games. I used to get caught up with my mom all the time.

Uh, shopping. Oh, she'd be like, I hated that. I just need to run into the store. And I'd be like, Oh my God.

She was in there for, it takes me back, bro. For hours. And so then she had to bribe me though. So like, mom, not doing this anymore.

She had to bribe me and like, try to get me something'm not doing this anymore. She had to bribe me and like try to get me something. Yeah. It's a little bit different now that Jasmine's older. But like I remember when she was younger, it's just a game of what can we do to get her so tired that she goes to sleep? That's all you're doing. You're just exchanging some form of time to make her lose energy. It was like it hit me one day. I'm like, damn, that's all we do is we just try to get her to the next nap. Yeah. My dad is, my dad really likes real estate a lot.

And so, and when, uh, when I was a kid, he was, he had a tax practice and a real estate business as well. And so I remember like after church or something i'm like okay like i did all the shit they asked me to do for the day and now i get to go home and have some fun like play some games and like invite my friends over and then they would be like they're like after church we're gonna go look at some houses i was like oh shit you know it would just kill me you know it just it wouldn't take that long probably yeah but like my dad would just he wouldn't even do anything just drive by two or three houses and we'd go home wasn't like a big deal uh-huh or then like to even like make the trip more agonizing my mom would be like i gotta run in the store like oh getting killed

getting crushed here i feel like like you're just you're just on this uh you know it's like you got uh kidnapped by your own parents almost yeah like i to do all this shit that they want to do and I don't get to do anything that I want. Yeah. And then obviously my mom, she's like a single parent. So her place was Ross. She go to Ross a lot. And I'd have to like, I feel like she was in there for hours. But now since kids time.

Right. Like they don't know. I don't know. Maybe it was only like 30 minutes, but I hated that. Absolutely hated that. And she's probably like, and to make it even funnier, she's probably buying clothes for you. You know what I mean? I hate when you buy me stuff. I hate when you provide for me like you're supposed to. This is driving me crazy. Yeah. Now that I think about it too, like,

I mean, I played all these sports as a kid, but it was probably just to tire me out. Like even looking back on it, she was probably trying to tire me out because i had hella energy so she's probably get this kid in soccer so he can go to sleep and i can get my rest wow i thought she was so loving because she like took you to like lift weights and encouraged you to play soccer and all these things yeah and now you now you know this now you know the truth she's just trying to wear you out. Oh, man. It's crazy. I still need to meet your mom. Yeah. Yeah. You will one day.

Bring your mom to work day. You should do that. Yeah, that'd be good. She'd enjoy it. I need to have some of that soup. Oh, yeah. No. She makes a lot.

Ooh. And she makes really good pepper soup. So she makes some good goat pepper soup. Oh, it's to die for. Whew. You've had my mom's tamales. Oh, yeah,

those are really good. Yeah, that was a long time ago. It was a long time ago. She needs to make some more. I like, Andrew gave them to me and then I had to like call him.

I think I'm like, what do I do with these? Were they already just made? Like, I think they were, I think they were cooked, but you just said just to heat them up. I said,

just throw them in the microwave. I like i was like what do i need to do with these because i brought them home and andy's like i was just like i don't know what to do with these i was like i figured you would know she's like i don't know but they loved them right oh they were awesome so good and then i think the last time i brought them in you were you were on some diet stupid diet some stupid diet and stupid diet. And I was like, ah, I was like, my bad,

dude. I brought some more of my mom's tamales and you're like, you have them here. I was like, yeah, right now. Yeah. I just bring them to me.

Yeah. Fuck it. Yeah. Yeah. Oh dude. Mom's cooking though. How do you guys feel about like getting kids in sports super early? You think like everyone should try? I know everyone has a different capacity with how much time they

have and work and all of that but do you think it's uh something like every parent should just try and do i think all kids should attempt some sports the hard thing is to know you know once you have your kids kind of try something the hard thing is to know whether they like it for themselves or whether they like it for you um i used to kind of think like oh it's kind of shitty if they like it for the parent and they're trying to be like a mini me but now i have a different stance on it now i i don't i don't think that's negative i think that's fine like even somebody that brings their kid to the gym and the kid wants to kind of try to lift and, and the kid, even at like eight or nine years old is, you know, starts to actually like lift and do some of the stuff. I think it's fine. I think it's actually healthy. It's like whatever way you can get your kid involved in something. And even if the kid is, you know, hopefully the parent isn't

a maniac, you know, to make the kid, you know, feel like shit if he strikes out or something. But, um, hopefully the parent has a realistic, you know, respect for the kid playing the sport themselves rather than them trying to like live through the kid. You know, that, that's not great, but I do think it's, I think it's healthy. I think, you know, whatever way you get these kids to participate and, uh, to play a sport, I think good they learn competition they learn what it's like to be on a team yeah they just learn a lot of things i'm not really sure how else you would learn these things or where else you would get them from yeah i think if they show interest in anything like make it a big deal like make it fun make it make it make um make them understand that you're like super excited for them that's what we

did with jasmine in dance school like we walked by it one day and she kind of was like oh okay i'm like let's go check it out right now i'm like we stopped everything we were doing and we ran right in signed her up and she's been loving it since sick yeah and usually whatever your kid likes you you start getting way into it anyway yeah like this is cool this is fun you know yeah yeah so then like instantly like it was like oh what kind of shoes do you need like what kind of like and then when we see anything that resembles any type of like dance apparel or it says dance it's like oh we're getting that and yeah it just becomes fun it's exactly what mark just said like you start to get into it yeah i love the fact that in sports it's just very black and white on like who's better

and who's not and yes it can make you feel crappy about yourself sometimes um but i also think that you like a lot of times in today's society uh people like they won't allow for that to happen because they're trying to like make everything so you know like make it make everything so equal all the time and it's like no like the guy who got up to bat before me who just hit the ball over the fence it's clearly fucking better than me like i just struck out three times in a row and but i think that's okay realization like bob who got up at bat before you that slugged the home run he's better at baseball so fucking what a big deal he's good at baseball maybe you got to find your thing. And so maybe you take that as a negative and you're like, I'll never play baseball again.

But maybe that leads you to try something else. Or maybe you're just like, you know what? He's just a little older than me. He's just a little taller than me. And if I practice, I bet I can knock that ball further than he did. I like that part of it. I like that part of it. Where else are you going to learn that from yeah i think teaching kids how not how to but teaching kids

what it feels like to lose is super important because then you get the kids that i'm not even trying so i don't care right they give up before they even like get close to losing and i and i you know we've talked about video games on this show before i'm all for video games i think things is great it's great. It's like, they're a lot of fun, but you can't really learn that kind of stuff through a video game. Now you might learn that like someone's better at like world of Warcraft than you,

but like, yeah, that's different. Like physical prowess is a thing. Like your stature, the way that you look, like, just think about like if,

if the, if the rock walked into like just about any room, even without him being the rock, everyone would just turn their head. Because he's fucking huge and he's jacked and he's a good-looking guy, right? So everyone's, boom, they turn their head. Now, if somebody that looked the exact same as the rock, the exact same looks, who's 5'7", and not nearly as good a shape, no one would look. No one would even look twice. Like, that's the world that we're in. Like people, they, they recognize these things. There's

certain things that give you a better status. They give you better leverage over everybody else in society. And I think the quicker that you learn that and the quicker you find that out, the quicker that you can be on your way to find your own spot. Yeah. Oh yeah. Yeah. The, the ability to like to like like like losing as a kid like you were mentioning oh man that that's huge like being able to like lose and then being taught how to handle loss being taught that like it's not permanent right it's and that you can practice and get better so you don't have to like feel that as often although you will feel that you know i and i'm not going to name any names or anything, but I've dealt with people that maybe they didn't play sports as a kid.

Maybe they did a show or something and they didn't do well. They literally couldn't handle that. They couldn't have that loss because they haven't done that athletically before. Right. So that's that's huge. Just know that you can just get better through practice, but you're going to lose. Yeah. Mark, you just mentioned video games.

What's your take on e-sports? Because what is it? fortnite player three million three million dollars three million dollars at 16 i'll just i'll just say that that's definitely the exception yeah well yeah i'm gonna let you yeah yeah well you know i think uh a lot of people my age and a lot of parents are like scared of like social media and they're scared to hear things like that because then their child or whatever is thinking of that I think it's all it's all fine it's all okay

because look my idol is right here on the table Bo Jackson right like I thought I was going to be like Bo Jackson I'm obviously nothing like Bo Jackson but that was a healthy dream for me to hold on to I still lift I thought I was going to be like Bo Jackson. I'm obviously nothing like Bo Jackson, but that was a healthy dream for me to hold on to. I still lift weights.

I still want to be athletic. I still want to be physical. I'm still trying to always make myself better, not just from a physical standpoint, but from a mental standpoint as well. And I think that having kids think about how they can monetize social media media I don't think is necessarily a negative thing. I just think everything just needs some sort of regulation of some sort. It's probably not great to play video games nonstop all day.

However, the kid that won $3 million probably kind of did. He plays eight hours a day. Yeah, there you go. million probably kind of did he plays eight hours a day yeah there you go yeah there you go yeah but i wonder what like statistically the odds of let's just say i don't know uh making a hundred thousand dollars a year playing video games versus like making the league minimum in the nba like how many people are playing video games right versus how many people are playing basketball you know like many more people are making way more money playing video games nowadays because of YouTube and all like Twitch.

Like those streamers, even streamers that don't have a crazy amount of followers make a living playing video games. So, you know, it's actually a legit viable option if you can entertain people and you're kind of good. Even just take video games out of it for a second. There's probably more, and I don't even know what the stat is for right now. Maybe you can try to look it up,

but there's got to be more millionaires in the United States right now than ever before. Yeah. And I would say it's probably double of what it was in like, say, 2010. Maybe it's even tripled. I don't even know. But I think it's okay to have a kid

who kind of thinks, like, I'm going to be an influencer one day. Like, sounds weird, sounds bizarre, but that's okay. So did making $3 million off a video game. That sounded weird a while ago until somebody did it. Now somebody did it, right? And so kids growing up now, like a kid, you know, five years ago saying he was going to you know be the next crossfit games champion sounded weird but now you're starting to kind of see a lot of kids are in crossfit like um having a car

you know pick you up from some random person you know that uh you know doesn't even necessarily work for a company they just they get a thing they have the same app as you and then they hop in the car and then they go pick you up. And that's Uber. Like, that's weird. Like all this stuff's weird. And I think like Gary Vee kind of hits the nail on the head with a lot of this stuff when he is talking about like kind of just what's going on in today's world.

I think we're better off just embracing it. And I think even like going to college, a lot of times people talk about going to college as like a reference point for some, you know, later on getting like a job, right? And then you get a job coming out of college. You're kind of hoping that with the college and the job that you're, the job that you secured is more of like a career job and that you make more money. Well, what if you can fucking bypass all that just by playing video games? It's not, it's not a bad gig, right? It's not a bad deal. And if you can fucking bypass all that just by playing video games it's not it's not a bad gig right it's not a bad deal if you can bypass it just through um being valuable on social media

being able to you know provide some value on social media or play video games or whatever it's like i don't see any problem it's not any different than a kid you know uh than kobe ryan you know going right to the nba like there should be no. There's absolutely no reason for him to go to college. And now they make a lot of the players still go to college, but I don't think there's any reason for it. But Insuma had mentioned if you can be entertaining on

Twitch and stuff, it's like, can you become a charismatic person and entertaining while locking yourself up in the basement for 10 hours a day. Like, you know, like you, you got to eventually get out. And then to answer your question, Mark, uh, there's more millionaires in the United States than there are people in Greece. Um, let's see within the past year, I'll say 40 million. I haven't even, no, because within the past year, there's been more than 250,000 newly minted millionaires within the last year.

How many? 250,000. Right. That's insane. Right. There's a lot. That's a lot of millionaires. Yeah, and it depends on what you call a millionaire too. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Then there's like the 3% that are like, you know, have more than a million in like assets. Right. So, but still, yeah, you're right. That's crazy. Yeah. It's wild. I mean,

it's just the world that we're in. You brought up something else too. You said social media, so kids and social media. Right. I am terrified of it. Jasmine wants an Instagram account and I'm like, no, you can't have it. Why not? Because I said so. Like I don't have an actual good response right now. I think the hard thing. So for me, my stance on that, and I probably need to like re-up my conversation with my kids again, but like my conversation with my children was i didn't want them communicating with anybody that they didn't that they didn't know i didn't want them to communicate with anybody that they didn't know so i don't want them to and that's just because they're kids

and that's just because like that's the way i want it to be for now um you know jake's getting older he's 15 and and you know quinn is 11. Maybe some of that will change. Like it's a hard thing because, you know, like they play video games. They do a lot of other stuff where you kind of forget like, oh, it's all social media. Like it's nothing is like an isolated thing anymore. I remember Andy years ago, I think, got Jake an iPod and the iPod had like texting and everything on it. And like, she didn't know. And I was like, no, no, no. I was like, that has fucking everything on it that a phone does basically. And so, uh, we had to, you know,

disable that or whatever, cause he was like 10 or whatever. Yeah. And, uh, so yeah, I mean, it's just, you're trying to figure out a way to protect your kids from certain things, from certain stupid things happening that you would otherwise just you'd rather just avoid them, you know. But, yeah, that's kind of been the rule for us. It's like I don't really want you interacting with people that you don't know. And then they're like, oh, we can make a private account. I'm like, I don't know. Yeah. Yeah.

You know, it is really crazy, though, because like as adults, like when social media came out. Having said that, they both probably have know. Yeah. Yeah. You know, it is really crazy though, because like as adults, like when social media came out. Having said that, they both probably have it. Yeah. Not like as adults, like all these things from like Instagram and all of this. And then we find out how like, how bad it can be for your mental health over time. And now we have to make the adjustments. So then kids have to make the adjustments.

And even like the things like the light on your phone screen, just figuring out how bad that can be for you, like your sleep and stuff. Right. So now kids have to make those adjustments so it's crazy like mark said we're just gonna have to evolve over time learn how to put this within our lives but also make sure that it doesn't impede everything else that we're doing yeah it's tough yeah i'm just i'm real nervous about social media with jazz she's one she's super gullible um two she's extremely cute so like it's yeah you think of the worst of the worst.

And then, you know, like cyberbullying. Like, that would suck if she had to come home and, you know, look on her phone and it's like, oh, all the, you know, assholes at school, they're there on her phone again. Yeah. Like, that's my biggest fear right there, too. Yeah. So, it's frustrating. Like, when I have a kid, I'm not going to let them at least I don't think I'm going to let them have an Instagram

until they're like, maybe, I don't know. If Instagram still is a thing to late teens or mid-teens, you don't need that. Embedded in their head by the time you have a kid. The Neuralink. You heard about that, right? What are you talking about? Elon Musk, he had a keynote

four weeks ago about something called neuro link it's a chip that you can put in your brain to have you interface with certain things a little bit better oh my gosh you you implant it into your brain you know wow yeah like that that's that's here it's here skynet is here for real it's getting fully realized can we implant something into our head that makes us think that we're eating peanut butter cups all day? Shoot. They'll probably find a part in your brain where you could put it. And yeah, like when you have a feeling that you want to eat something, click the button, you get that dopamine hit.

You're like, okay, I'm not hungry for that anymore. And you're good. They do have a lollipop that's like that. I was just going to say. It's just called a lollipop, but it's not really like a lollipop. But it's like an electronic thing that they've been running a lot of tests on. And I think they can make it taste like just about whatever you want. They can have it hit your taste buds in such a way that you could be like, oh, my God, I taste pizza.

Wait, do you need to like buy the pizza flavor or you can change this? It's like a computer. This is like a computer thing that they're testing that they it's not like available to anybody or anything like that right right now oh my god the shit that they're testing i'd imagine like uh you know like when uh i can't remember what it was on but like somebody would uh to lose weight they would like eat food chew on it and then spit it out and that like, that messes you up pretty bad, right? That's not good. That's, that's, yeah.

Yeah. But like, because you're like salivary glands go nuts and then your stomach starts building acid to build. Yeah. Then you don't actually get it. Yeah. So I would imagine that that lollipop thing might jack people up the same

way. Amen. The things that work now might be the things that are jacking us up through years. Hey, how are people going to use that technology? Porn. Everything turns to porn strength is never a weakness weakness never strength catch you guys later