Mark Bell's Power Project - Mark Bell's Power Project EP. 240 - Why the Hate for Female Bodybuilders?

Episode Date: August 28, 2019

Today Mark Bell talks about reading negative comments and views towards female bodybuilders and athletes. Why is it ok for men to do steroids and jump on stage, but when I woman does it, she gets hate? ➢SHOP NOW: https://markbellslingshot.com/ Enter Discount code, "POWERPROJECT" at checkout and receive 15% off all Sling Shots Find the Podcast on all platforms: ➢Subscribe Rate & Review on iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/mark-bells-power-project/id1341346059?mt=2 ➢Listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/4YQE02jPOboQrltVoAD8bp ➢Listen on Stitcher: https://www.stitcher.com/podcast/mark-bells-power-project?refid=stpr ➢Listen on Google Play: https://play.google.com/music/m/Izf6a3gudzyn66kf364qx34cctq?t=Mark_Bells_Power_Project ➢Listen on SoundCloud: https://soundcloud.com/markbellspowerproject  FOLLOW Mark Bell ➢ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/marksmellybell ➢ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/MarkBellSuperTraining ➢ Twitter: https://twitter.com/marksmellybell ➢ Snapchat: marksmellybell Follow The Power Project Podcast ➢ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/MarkBellsPowerProject Follow Nsima Inyang ➢ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/nsimainyang/  Podcast Produced by Andrew Zaragoza ➢ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/iamandrewz

No, no. Oh, God, yeah. You can't tell that story. Have you been noticing anything from the Juve lights? You can't sell out all of the Juve lights if you... Actually, sorry, I'm really trying to... The good thing is that I did one of those... It's from this company called Everly Well.

So it's like a men's health test, and it's like a saliva where they'll check your testosterone, cortisol, something else and something else. So I did that right before I started. I'm not changing any of their habits in terms of my sleep and my exercise. So I'm going just as hard as I usually do. But I've been using that in the morning, some nights. And yeah, like again, I don't know if it's placebo or not, but like, I'm just feeling much better during the day, even like without coffee, I'm still just feeling like I have a lot of energy. And I mean, I've always had good energy. It's not like I've been tired, but I'm feeling better, which is good.

You know, that, that's a good thing. Um, and yeah, my sleep's pretty damn good. Yeah. I noticed the whole night. I noticed right away that like, um, that, that, that, that morning fogginess that takes a little bit longer to kind of get rid of it like I walk out of the house and I'm just like man today's gonna be a great day like without really even thinking about anything and the other day I was just like hmm like wonder if this has anything to do with it or I'm

just like on a really good streak of like getting good sleep or something. Am I saying this right? It's called a Juve light is that right? Juve J-O-V-E. And, you know, we're just, we're messing around with some products over here at Slingshot. And like, I've only used it for just several minutes,

but I will say that just being in front of the light just made me feel like I kind of went outside, which to me, like, I don't know how everybody else feels, but I like, you go outside and yeah, like it is summertime right now, so it's kind of went outside, which to me, like, I don't know how everybody else feels, but I like you go outside and yeah, like it is summertime right now. So it's kind of hot, but other than like the uncomfortable, uncomfortableness of the heat, you know, from this light, you're just feeling like a little energy boost. So like, I want to mess around with it more. I want to play around with it more. And we have friends that swear by it and say, it helps raise your testosterone levels. And we're not going to hear information like that and just let it go.

Yeah. That's why I'm like, I'm, I'm curious to, uh, after I'm probably going to do a test after 30 days, but I'll do another test after 60 and maybe after 90 because what I'm curious about is,

okay, I'm probably going to see a rise cause I have so many people have like gotten that test and seen a rise, but will it be consistently higher? Will it like go up and then we'll start trickling back down to where it was with continued use that's what i'm curious about what was the test that you said you said it was just saliva yeah it's from a company called everly well and it was a saliva test um and like i was i was trying to test like will will it be as uh let's say uh as accurate as blood um and it kind of it is it, um, and they've done a lot of testing and they've

like made saliva testing more consistent where you'll be pretty damn close to what a blood test is going to give you. If not like the exact thing in terms of those panels. The advantage here is that they just send you a kit, you just spit into something, right? And you send it back and it's quick. And so blood is like kind of complicated. You have to go to like a professional or like have, you know, somebody come to your house and draw blood for you, which can be costly. And the biggest thing that I'm looking just here is the consistency of testing.

So if I can take the same test and then 30 days later, just take the same test, even if it's off by a little bit, it is the same exact test. So we'll be able to see the differences. Much like a body fat test. Someone's like, oh, it's dumb that you got that particular test. And it's like, well, I tested the test against the other test under similar conditions. So hopefully it's trending the right way. I'm getting my test tested probably this week,

so maybe I can order a test from Everly and compare the two. Yeah, actually, that'd be a great idea. I'm really curious what you get from that. So since you're getting your blood test done, Everly isn't too expensive it's like i think 150 160 you'll have to back off on your fetish of having women step on your balls and high heels like a day or two before but everything should be cool yeah don't bust either just yeah keep that locked well what and there's that how what am i supposed to do now then like that's literally my life right

there just stay away from computers it's actually pretty simple try to think about sex for the next couple weeks pretty easy oh yeah yeah nothing sexual nothing non-sexual right go monk mode i'm gonna take this mind blow potion real quick oh my gosh oh my god straight to the face let's go yep yeah i i took some of that uh this morning and i'm pretty fired up about it not the best tasting thing you'll ever taste but it doesn't taste half bad though no it's not I mean it's not going to be the grossest thing you ever had either I'm surprised

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You can check out mindbullet.com if you are curious about it. It's the equivalent of three servings. I maybe should have told Nsema before he downed the whole thing. The equivalent of about three servings of – I'm sorry, three capsules of MindBullet. So take it out as as you'd like i just take the whole thing now it is pricey so people might want to kind of space out how they take it i utilize both i sometimes use the capsules because i want to just a little dosage of it and sometimes i just want to you know go deep wait so you said three servings and one serving

is a three capsules so it's like nine capitals yeah yeah yeah the whole thing oh sick yeah and it's instant or fairly instant right because the uh capsules take a little bit longer maybe we'll see we'll we'll time it yeah it's a little it's a little faster i think yeah and sema's gonna like turn into like a pigeon and like fly away like i'm out of here be like holy fuck man i don't know if that's the desired result everyone's uh looking for i was on instagram the other day and um you know we all see the rocks post right and i saw and i've been following uh his ex-wife as well danny garcia um i think it's kind of cool how they're still uh together on a lot of projects and a lot of different things and

i believe she runs seven bucks production. I don't know how everything all works out, but that's been pretty cool. And then also kind of to follow along with her trainer and to know that they utilize the products. I'm really grateful for that. Super cool. And been following along with her progress and she's doing a bodybuilding

show, which is, you know, which is great because she, I think she's been pretty into fitness over the last several years. But, you know, she's gotten more and more and more into it. She's kind of gotten closer to the heat. You know, she's gotten that iron bug. And then when you start getting into a bodybuilding show, it's just a complete another level.

And then when I saw this post that she made where she's talking about how she had to back off from doing one contest, which happens quite a bit in bodybuilding. She didn't feel she was ready. Her coach didn't feel she was fully ready to step on stage with the best physique that she's ever had before. And so she wanted to back off of that and actually get leaner. And in this video, she's explaining how this is something that she really loves to do. She wants to take it to the next level. She also explains like, man, bodybuilding would probably be a lot different if it started with females rather than starting with males. And what would it look like? And so for her, even though bodybuilding didn't start with females, she still had a lot of uh in her eyesights that she admired that were

like how are these women built like this sprinters dancers um women that are just super lean and you don't you don't always see that and so she's kind of liked that look uh for for a long time and she wants to pursue bodybuilding so here she is in the middle of a bodybuilding show she's getting really lean. And I just saw there was a lot of positive comments. I should point that out first. As we were looking at it just now, actually, you pointed that out to me.

Look, there's a lot of positive comments here. And we have a tendency sometimes to look at the negative. But I saw some comments on there and I was just like, ah, you know, I get it. I know why people are having negative comments. I know why people are throwing stones and saying she sounds like a man or she looks manly or whatever. But I just, what I hate about that is I don't, we have the freedom of speech. So you can say whatever you want, you know. But at the same time, I don't like this idea of just like knocking somebody down.

And then also like, I also feel like this idea of just knocking somebody down. And then also, I also feel like you're not paying attention. I feel like a lot of these people may not have even really watched the video. And here's somebody who's just throwing a lot of commitment on the table. Here's someone who is sacrificing so many different things when you do a bodybuilding show. She said she lost 30 pounds of body fat. From a mental standpoint, it's really hard. It's really challenging for anyone that has to deal with you on a day-to-day basis due to the multiple things we've mentioned on this podcast in the past. But I admire it and I think that it's cool. And I don't know her business, but I do know the business of body

building. A lot of times there are performance enhancing drugs involved in bodybuilding. So when a Jay Cutler or Dexter Jackson or Dorian Yates, like any of these guys stepped on stage in years past, even Arnold Schwarzenegger, we're all like, oh hell yeah, that's awesome. Arnold had the biggest chest. He had the biggest arms. Everybody's all excited. But now when a woman does it people are pretty mad about it and they're upset about it and they're like she looks like a dude so that's what i wanted to kind of ask what are some of your thoughts on this and sema number one when people say she looks like a dude like most dudes don't even look that jacked so like that's like let's just be real here she's she has capped delts she's fucking shredded. But when it comes to this, like the reason why this is like this is because of like what I guess you see on TV of what a feminine woman looks like or what a feminine woman is, you know, super slender, you know, dainty, girly, etc.

That's what's linked to that masculine and physical masculinity is like, you know, big jacked. See it in all the cartoons, John Cena right there. You know what I mean? So, I mean, when you think about why anyone starts this, like when I started lifting and when I wanted to get big, it wasn't for the, to appease other women. It wasn't to, Oh, I want women to like me. So I'm gonna get big and jacked. It was for me and my confidence and I wanted to feel good. And even like now, like sometimes, or I've heard this before, like some women will be like, oh, he's too big or he's too veiny and all that type of stuff. So there's always going to be people that don't like it.

But the thing is when a woman does this, because it's so, I guess, counter pop culture, it's, it's, it's not, it's not the ideal. It's not what people think that a woman should be or a woman should look like. But it's so crazy to me because when you look at professional sports like track athletes, especially track athletes, they could step on stage the next day. And they get lean. They just naturally are lean and super athletic. And it's just when it comes to this, most people will not be able to achieve that in terms of the level that those track athletes are that and any female physique athletes. Many people just aren't going to achieve that. So I think it's I don't think it's ever going to be looked at positively just because pop culture will not change that quickly.

will not change that quickly. But when it comes to like, I guess the comments that I saw on that, it is at least, you can see that there are a lot of people supporting her decision to do this. It's not, I mean, I guess maybe they maybe went on a negative or a delete spree on some of the negative comments,

but a lot of people are supportive even though it's not for them. You know what I mean? That's what I'd like to see from people more. I guess that's kind of my whole point is, you know, appreciate the hard work. And then also, too, if you look at it, you're like, this is bullshit. Like, this is dumb. She's on steroids or whatever you want to say.

Do you really have to go in and make a comment? Is that really supportive of yourself even? Yeah, the one that I – Is that helping you at all? I don't think so. The one that just doesn't make sense to me at all um and just i'm reading comments and um yeah there are tons of positive but someone said why are we listening to someone that sticks needles in themselves to cheat like right like yeah really dude and also yeah you're you're not uh tom brokaw

and you're not you don't have this like breaking news, right? Like you're not coming in, you're not a reporter, like with this, this late breaking news that nobody recognizes that athletes and especially bodybuilders, people do know that bodybuilders utilize performance enhancing drugs. It's oftentimes it's, it's like I said, I don't know her business. I don't claim to know her business. But oftentimes it is part of bodybuilding. It was part of bodybuilding for me. It's been part of bodybuilding pretty much since part of bodybuilding for me. It's been part of bodybuilding pretty much since the beginning. Yeah. You know, I think it's just so, first off, there's always just going to be those people that always link it back to themselves. So for the guys that are like, Oh, she's too muscular. Like she's too muscular because number

one, you just may be not attracted to a very muscular woman. That's fine. Why does that matter? Like when I see guys like Phil Heath or, or, or, you know, those type of bodybuilders, I know that personally, like I, I wouldn't want to be that big, but I can still admire what they're like, what they've done. Like that takes a ridiculous, just an inhumane amount of like work ethic to be able to achieve. That's admirable. Yeah. You know what I mean? Same with what she's doing. It's admirable what she's doing, even if you're not attracted to it. So why are we focusing on what's so attractive to us rather than just looking at what the individual is achieving and like how difficult that is? That in itself should be more of the focus, but it's always

linking back to, again, the negative comments links back to them, or it could be partial, some of their insecurity seriously it's like probably a little bit of insecurity they're seeing a seeing a woman that's jacked and like for a lot of our female power lifters seeing a woman that's dead lifting and squatting and probably benching more than you oh you're too big all right you're it's not feminine i think a lot of times too people need to kind of come up with a block or an excuse on why they can't have that or achieve that. In this case, if it's a guy commenting on a female, maybe he's not too worried about what she has or whatever. But if it's a guy commenting on Larry Wheels, the guy is like, I can't ever have that because you're on steroids.

And it's like, OK, he may use stuff and he may be really big, but that's not the reason. There's a lot of other factors in there. There's hard work, there's a genetic potential, there's environmental differences from how he grew up, and just a whole host of things on why you're not that person. But then you're going to sit there and just be angry about it. It just doesn't seem to be, it just doesn't seem to be any, uh, of any benefit.

Yeah. You know, can we just sidestep? I remember just let's remember where you were and comment about how impressive it is that Larry wheels has kept his hairline. Like, I mean, every single time I see a video from him,

I'm jealous because my, my, my started to go when I was like 21, 22 and he's like, he's going strong. It's dark. every single time I see a video from him, I'm jealous because my, my, my started to go out when I was like 21, 22. And he's like, he's going strong. It's dark. He has his hairline up to fricking his,

the bottom of his forehead. I'm just in awe. Genetics, baby. That guy's got genetics all over his whole body. So lucky. I've seen, I've seen that guy ride a camel.

I've seen that guy deadlift 900 pounds. There's nothing that guy can't do. It doesn't, uh, it never surprised me. He's, he's the mutant yeah freak show um you know i guess you know the other the other side of this whole thing is just like i i just when somebody's trying something new and somebody's trying something that's maybe um you know something's kind of different you know she wants to really dive into this bodybuilding show and she wants to just come on that stage and just look, you know, better than ever. And that was really the message.

And then you get these messages that sidetrack you in life. And it is part of social media. It's part of, you know, you make a post. Now it's fair game, you know. But my thought is, look, man, it's not really that hard to keep scrolling. It's not really hard to unfollow if you don't really like, you know but my my thought is look man it's not really that hard to keep scrolling it's not really hard to unfollow if you don't really like you know the tone of what somebody's pumping out um you know i just i just thought it's like i was just kind of child it's kind of stupid

and i realize not everyone's going to like it that's you know and that is we're in america you got you have the option of of uh voicing your opinion guess. I'm just trying to think in my head. I'm like, how does that really help? How does it really benefit us? Switching gears a little bit, I've heard some rumors. I don't know how many rumors we should share on this show, but we might as well just blow the lid off all of them, right? Who cares?

Yeah. I have heard that The Rock is going to be getting involved in promoting shows that are similar to what Arnold has done. And maybe I have my information a little bit wrong. Maybe it's going to be slightly different or have its own twist to it. But it's my understanding that he's going to be running fitness expos. And I think it's, I hope that's true because I think, you know, who has more appeal than The Rock? You know, nobody at this point, right? And then also his international pull, right?

And again, you know, there's positive and negatives to everything, and there's going to be some people that are super pumped about it, and some people are going to say, oh, he's trying to, whatever, he's trying to capitalize on fitness now too or whatever. People are going to throw stones. But what I'm excited about is I think it elevates fitness for everybody. And yes, I love making money and I love promoting Slingshot. I love the products that we have here and everything.

I love super training and power lifting and everything. But this elevates all of it. This elevates all of fitness. And this might really be the biggest lift in fitness that fitness has seen since joe weeder came along joe weeder brought in arnold schwarzenegger and now the rock if this is if this is true um i mean i guess i'm sorry i i left out crossfit i actually think that crossfit i i think that crossfit is insanely influential so So, yeah, so I know that The Rock, there's a lot of talk about him supporting some of these bodybuilding shows and that he might run a bodybuilding show. But I think there's going to be a bigger announcement made soon.

There's The Rock with Hany Rambod. Yeah. But anyway, I hope the rumors are true because I think it would be really cool. Arnold is amazing and Arnold is a legend. but I think there is room for somebody else. Oh, yeah. Now, think about the possibilities, though, because like, yeah, Arnold is extremely popular, right? But the amount of people that, the sheer amount of individuals that follow The Rock, I think it's, what, 140 million at this point on Instagram? Yeah, I think he has more followers than just about anybody.

Right? Now, think about him posting stuff about bodybuilding how many people are just going to be like what's this thing where like why are those guys so tan and like just think about the eyes that are going to be on that sport and even powerlifting let's say he manages to get to like and he has an expo right 155 million jesus well think about. I love what you're saying right here. So he posted the thing about his ex-wife, Danny Garcia, and yes, there was some negative. How many people went and followed Danny Garcia? How many people went and followed Danny Garcia, and then they see another bodybuilding woman because it comes up in their feed, and they're like, I got to follow this person.

They're like, what is this? And now they're going to the gym. And now they're doing what we got to follow this person. They're like, what is this? And now they're going to the gym, you know, and now they're doing like what we always talk about on the show. Now, maybe they're going to get a little dosage of feeling the way that we feel from picking up some weights. And that's, that's exciting to me. That's really exciting. That'd be awesome. If it like, cause that'd be great. If it started to touch other sports, like powerlifting, like strong man, if he's able to like, just touch those just a little bit, the amount of like the amount of just like lifting that those sports are going to get because powerlifting has been getting really

popular right but not like has it's not it's nothing like let's say crossfit yet even though i mean right am i correct in saying that yeah right so if it can get there man that'd be that'd be great i think what crossfit's done i think where crossfit ends up being super important kind of in two different spots is you know number one crossFit got barbells back in people's hands again when maybe there was some deviation from it for a while with what was promoted in, like, Flex Magazine and muscular development. Not that anything, any of that stuff was wrong. It's just that you saw a lot of machines. You know, you saw a lot of, and that's cool, any form of fitness. Like, it's just that you saw a lot of machines you know you saw a lot of and that's cool any form of fitness like it's all great

but you know getting some barbells back in people's hands having people do having people put an emphasis on performance bodybuilding you know when you're an actual bodybuilder the performance is kind of on stage and your training performance

certainly matters but I think there was like maybe a shift there somewhere where that wasn't like the focus. And when it comes to CrossFit, there's like time domains and certain weights that you have to live. And I know that the high level bodybuilders and people that are smart with bodybuilding, they understand like if they're going to do a seated row that they got to figure out ways of improving on that seated row if they want to continue to have growth. But I also think there's a lot of people kind of just following along just i'm gonna do three sets of ten of this i'm gonna and they were kind of just going through the motions and i think

crossfit kind of woke people back up again a little bit with how intense some of these workouts should be and then also having those time domains associated with it but even bigger than both of those things and bodybuilding had a large worldwide appeal as well. But I think that CrossFit has a huge worldwide appeal. And I know I have friends that have gone to China. I have friends who have left their job here in the United States and gone and done the same job in China because of the growth of CrossFit, like from some friends with Reebok and some other friends that I have that do seminars and stuff. They go there and teach people how to lift.

I didn't know CrossFit was that popular in China. It's that big? It's huge. It's huge. Australia, it's huge. I'm not aware of all the countries it's super popular in, but it's big. So while some people are like, oh, look at CrossFit. It's falling apart.

It's like, man, it is just getting started in a lot of these other countries. And the same thing with fitness. In China, they don't know. They might not know who Bradley Martin is. It's a communist country. Again, I don't always know what I'm talking about, but I believe it's still a communist country. And they don't have access to a lot of these things, and a lot of countries have limited access. So they might not even know who some of these bodybuilders are, who some of these fitness personalities are. So how cool would it be if The Rock was able to land something like that? And, I mean, with his 160,000 followers and then also his worldwide appeal through his movies. His movies are being seen all over the world. I know was in china uh recently promoting they had they show the movie there people are aware of who he is so that's just exciting to me i think it's cool yeah no that

that's that's great and also on the note of crossfit though i think um i mean you've seen those female like the women athletes in crossfit they're jacked too you know what i mean so i think they all look like guys but like you wouldn't say that if you saw them walk by you'd be like damn yeah you wouldn't say that because like they but they look good well you shouldn't say anything you should be nice but you would be thinking stuff totally um but good stuff, you know, some Christian things. Um, but yeah, no, even like the, the,

like even the top, like top and mid tier CrossFit athletes that are women, like their bodies too. They're, they're jacked, they're shredded, you know, they have capped delts,

traps, et cetera. So I think it's, it's just becoming more, I guess, acceptable in all realms of, of sports. I guess it's a lot of eyes are on it,

but yeah, those, those chicks are jacked. Some of the guys are, some of the guys are pretty damn jacked too. Yeah. And it's, lot of eyes are on it, but yeah, those, those chicks are jacked. Some of the guys are, some of the guys are pretty damn jacked too. Yeah. And it's, it's just great to see,

um, you know, again, like if, if, if fitness becomes more popular all over the world, um, it'll make training easier when you travel.

It will make staying on your diet easier when you travel. No, just, it just opens up a lot of cool possibilities. And, um, anyone that does anything in fitness, whether you're a trainer or an online coach, you have your own supplements, you've got your own t-shirt line, you have anything to

do with fitness. You run a podcast, there's more people tuning into your podcast, there's just more of everything. So I think it's awesome. We've got Boss of Bosses coming up again. This is year number six for Boss of Bosses run by Dan Green and his wife. And I think it's great that they've been putting on a contest. It's hard to have consistency and it's a pain in the ass running a powerlifting meet. I mean, we all take it for granted. We just think, oh, it's like they have a bunch of weights there and it's all set up. And you don't really think about how much movement, how many moving parts there are to running a powerlifting meet, how many things had to be moved around that gym for that day or that hotel, wherever the meet is happening,

how much structure and how much preparation goes into just setting the damn thing up in the first place. It's crazy. And then trying to get the weights there and make sure you have the right stuff. You need to have your kilo plates. You need to make sure you have the right collars and right bars. And if anything's off, it's not going to be a well-run meet. Somebody could get really hurt. The computer goes down or something that has all the information in it. I mean, there's a lot of things that can happen. So you need to make sure that you have a lot of great people there and that you run a good meet. I've heard nothing but good things about this meet every single year.

And the coolest part probably is that it brings out a bunch of lunatics. Yeah, mutants. It brings out a lot of mutants. I've been to Boss of Bosses before. It's really, just really professionally run. I think the one, when I went there, they had, I think, three platforms going at the same time, if I'm not mistaken.

So it was really like, it was like a machine. So they've got it going pretty well at this point. I think Andrei Milanochev ended up breaking the all-time total record there at one point. So that was a pretty cool highlight that they've had. But they've had a lot of great lifters over the years, uh, lift there.

And this year they have, um, Steph Cohen is getting ready for Hayden. Bo is getting ready for Hayden. Like, man, I don't, I don't really understand,

uh, how that guy is able to like keep lifting. So, Hey, I mean, do you follow him? Yes, I follow him.

And what's it, what's squat? It's insane. But it's like every day, like, does he squat 600 pounds three times a day or something? You you know there's some people you look at and you look at their training you're just like that they can handle pain and they can handle volume hayden's just one of those guys that just seems like he's just i don't know what his training history is in

the past but that man can just handle a lot of volume and he he, I mean, the thing is though, the hybrid aspect of what he does, he does like, they, him and Steph both do like, you know, different parts of training or a lot of volume

of training where it's not surprising that he's doing these types of weights every single day. He's adapted to it. Although also, they're also both

very athletic. And they'll both like randomly hit up an Olympic lift. Yeah. And they'll do really well with it. You're like, oh, shit. Yeah.

I apologize. Steph is not competing, but she will be there. So I didn't want to. People are huge fans of hers, and they'll probably want to put my head on a plate if I get that wrong. But yeah, she's not competing. Don't disrespect her. Yeah. Hayden will be competing.

And good luck to him, man. He's been smashing some huge weights. Yeah. What's that on the bar right now you know, good luck to him, man. He's been smashing some huge weights. Yeah. What's that on the bar right now? Six 17 by three. Uh, yeah, yeah.

Six 17 by, Oh no. Six 61 by two. I was like, where'd you see that? Oh, that grind was beautiful. He's the ultimate grinder,

man. Yeah. That guy can really grind out some weights. He, um, on a deadlift, you know, his deadlift will just take like an hour and a half

i'm like oh my god i could have ate a sandwich while you were you know doing that deadlift he's conventional guy too right yeah yeah yeah crazy by the way everybody the mind bullet potion pit me about 10 15 10 minutes ago man do i feel good your head's floating like i'm i'm literally like this doesn't feel like being just like i'm i'm literally like this doesn't feel like being just like like we mentioned just feels like an extra extra warm hug and i can't stop smiling so i actually gave you an extra warm hug you might have forgot yeah it makes you feel it makes you feel fucking good and it not like i don't feel bad either like i think i'm faster right now i I've only had coffee, but there's no negatives here.

This is just nice. People need to check out the hybrid method because Steph and Hayden, they're leading by example. They're picking up some damn heavy weight, and then both of them look great. Both of them are jacked. And so I think that's what a lot of people are looking for. That's what a lot of people are looking for. That's what a lot of people want. I think the hybrid peeps, I think they help you with your training. They help you with your nutrition. And I think that's something else that's really brilliant that they do is they're focused on movement and your movement pattern.

They're focused in on Steph. They both have a very good technical background, but they're both talking quite a bit about mobility and stretches. And I heard her actually yesterday talking on her Instagram, if you saw this clip. But she said a lot of times elbow pain for people is really just coming from their shoulder, coming from their tight pec. And she's not sharing anything revolutionary. I've heard people talk about that before. But her explanation for it was really great. She had a simple test that you can do. And it was basically, if you have your palm facing towards the ground, your arm out in front of you, if you go to turn your palm up,

if you have to twist outward to get your arm to twist all the way by moving your body or by just trying to shove your thumb that way more. She said, you're missing some pieces of, of external rotation and it'd be wise for you to stretch. Mainly the pecs are going to be the main culprit for, for most of us, uh, lifters because of how tight,

um, it's, it's actually the pecs and the lats are kind of holding everything down and holding everything just slightly out of place. And so she had a really good video on that. A lot of great technical information, from both of them what is she pausing right now oh that's uh 365 but still geez now she's that woman well and both of them are smart with their training like i know we were just talking about hayden how he trains like a lunatic

all the time but there's a lot of build-up to that yeah you know we're only seeing the last you know three weeks before the meet yeah he took they both take their time which um this is the frustrating part of training when you're training like steph is here and and i know we're saying 365 but 365 is chump change for a 22 time world record holder. She's an absolute monster. But, but that style of training, when you're doing like, uh, you know, six sets of six or four sets of six or four sets of four or whatever it is with those kind of intermediate weights, that's the worst. It's like, you just don't want to do it, but you know, the payoff is there. So if you can kind of hang tight and like not want to, you know know make these big jumps and lift these crazy weights it also takes a long time

but that's the thing like i think you really got to get to a you got to get to a point where you actually enjoy it because i like volume in my training but the only reason i like volume is because like i've been training like when i started with bodybuilding that's all volume it's a lot of high volume training so like i like that feeling when your legs are so pumped that it's a little bit painful. You know what I mean? I like that. So you just got to, you got to start it. You got to do it for a while and you'll like it after you'll like it after. Yeah. Like, uh, you know, bodybuilding, a lot of times it might be, you know, four sets of eight or three sets of 10 or something like that. And it's usually with

a similar weight, um, power lifting kind of works the the same way a lot of times it'll be like a five by five or three sets of three or something like that um but usually a lot of times if you actually look at what happens in bodybuilding and what happens in power lifting a lot of times the reps the total reps are kind of similar oh my god i had this on the airplane oh my god somebody broke through but a lot of times the overall reps are similar like you may get 30 reps out of doing three sets of 10 and if you did eight sets of three you get 24 reps or if you did five to five you get 25 reps so it's it's kind of interesting how the reps are similar but the way it feels is so different yeah and one thing to think about that is like so i mean there's been a lot of like research and stuff done on this but like if you look at yeah

three sets of 10 versus 10 sets of three um there are like there's sometimes a reason why you might want to handle that maybe three sets of 10 and seven of 10 sets of three because especially if you're doing like really heavy work for those triples, you'll, you'll feel super fatigued later on like that, that higher intensity load will get to you. And also, um, just the, what was I looking for?

Okay. The mind bullet potions. Um, Oh yeah, no, just the, uh, the amount of time it'll take you in that session to do 10 sets of three

versus sticking out and doing that three sets of 10. There's, there's that factor too. So there's, there's really good reason for like you know as a powerlifter to mix that stuff up but one other thing that i find really really awesome and this is this should be a reason that if you're a powerlifter listening to this you may want to add in quite a bit of bodybuilding training if you've been training for a powerlifter for most of your training career and you start adding in more training volume it's literally going to be like newbie gains. It's going to be like a new stimulus. And I've, I've, I've done this with a few guys that like do powerlifting that are doing bodybuilding training after a few months. They're

like, Oh my God, I'm noticing like my, my shoulders are getting all capped and they've never been capped before. Like it's going to be like you, you know, when you first started training and that's shoot, that's pretty awesome. And maybe it's a good reason to like, stop doing something, you know, like you stop doing something, uh, so that you can bring it back in at some other time. Yeah. Maybe, maybe even like, uh, and we mentioned this a million times on the podcast, but like, um, and maybe you bring in a little bit of, or maybe you lower your carbs for a little while to kind of use those as, as a weapon or a tool for a different style of training at a different time. Same thing with the fasting. Maybe you're like, you know what, the whole month I'm going to really try this intermittent fasting thing. And maybe you keep

going in and out of different things, trying different things. So you're going to get a better result every time you go back to it. You're going to get a nice bang for your buck every time you go to focus back on powerlifting. It will take a minute to accumulate. But once it accumulates, you'd be like, holy shit, this feels good. Over time, there becomes like a fatigue of doing the same thing over and over and over again. And you might not even, a lot of people, when they train, they feel like they reach plateaus and like, oh, my bench is getting stronger and my squat isn't getting stronger. But a simple thing is just like you mentioned, if you were to take four, six weeks and just maybe do some front squatting and you come back to back squatting, you might after two weeks hit a PR.

Because you gave yourself time away. The front squats may have shown you like or may have maybe fixed some little holes within your squat. And then coming back to that, boom, you fix something that you didn't even know you needed to fix. You have been messing around with taking some time away from Instagram lately, right? You've been checking that screen time. I've been checking that screen time. And it's not actually lately. I've been doing this for a while.

There is a book I read. It was by Cal Newport, Digital Minimalism. I read it a while ago. But for a while, I was just like, this is like not just Instagram, but a lot of like just social is getting in the way of things. Like there's a lot of things I really want to get done. Social media is a part of what I do in terms of marketing. So I got to be able to use it, but I got to be able to somehow input it into my daily life in a sustainable way where it's not just, it's not messing things up, you know? So like, yeah,

my screen time. And the reason why I love screen time is because you can't bullshit people. Like you can't say, Oh, I'm in Instagram, like, you know, less than 50 minutes a day, because they'll just be like, let me see your weekly average on your screen time. Right. So I think right now it's averaging around 45 minutes a day. Um, and like the only ways or the only reasons I use IG is pretty much for like, like posting something or responding to DMS that people send to me. Cause like that, you know, I want to be able to respond to those, but I've been able to be like since you know really paying attention to how much i use social it's been like freeing up time for me to just learn a lot of things because like i like reading stuff and learning stuff especially with

the stuff we talked about on the podcast it's just been opening up a lot of time and also one big thing is like especially like when i'm with my girlfriend or when i'm with people i i you know used to have the habit of when there's a little bit of a down period you know you just have the intrinsic wants oh let me pull out my phone real quick it's not even that you think about it you're just like oh shit it's quiet automatic pull my phone out i really try to like not do that at all anymore if there's a lull period just wait maybe think of something else to talk about but i don't want the phone to be the first thing i turn to and i think it's been really good it's helped helped me out a lot. You're like waiting in line somewhere in the second, you're like, boom, you pull out your phone and it's like, well, you know, why don't I just

talk to my girlfriend? She's right there. Right. Yeah. Hey, how was work today? I mean, I don't know. And yeah, maybe, maybe there's not a conversation cause you already talked a lot today. So maybe you do pull your phone out. It's not always going to be a negative thing. Necessarily. We, we talk about the phone a lot in my so maybe you do pull your phone out. It's not always going to be a negative thing necessarily. We talk about the phone a lot in my house because I get kids too. So we're always trying to figure things out. And we're, you know, the summer we're more laxed with it, but we try not to get too lax with it because then you got to like start everything over again, you know.

My kids all last year during the school year were disciplined. They did a good job um putting their phones away we have a specific time that we try to have them put their phones away and the phones are supposed to go on the charger um but they're also looking for mom and dad to do the same thing and then like we're like oh yeah we got all these excuses and it's like well let's just whatever the excuses are let's put them aside and let's just all do the same thing at the same time. Um, you know, we've agreed to, uh, not have our phones with us when we eat dinner. So we don't have any phones at the dinner table. Um, my daughter yesterday, she's like, Oh, she's like, I forgot. I need to text my friends. I'm going on a bike ride with her later. She's like, can I get

up and use my phone? We're like, sure. Yeah. That's kind of different. She interacted with us and she, you know, told us and so it was handled that way. But it was just, we're just very conscious of it. We're just paying attention to it. Um, you know, for myself with the amount of like Instagram followers and stuff, um, it can be hard, but at the same time, I don't want to like, you know, be on my phone kind of like while they're around. So I have to be, I try to be a little sneaky with it. I talked to my wife about it a lot this last week and I said, let's figure out a way. Like, is this, is this reasonable?

Let's figure out a way for our kids to not see us with our phone. Like, is that, is that a possibility? And it might not be possible. But I said, maybe it's a possibility. So the other thing that we do, so at the dinner table, no phone. You can't, like, just put it face down. Like, that's not good enough. This is not fair.

Putting it face down to me is like back in the day when you play a video game in an arcade and someone else would put a quarter on the arcade game, that meant, like, that guy's next. You can't stand there for four more hours, asshole. You got to get out of the way. But when you put the phone down, even when you flip it face down, I think you're telling people like, you better be really entertaining.

I'm going to fucking pick this thing up and ignore your ass. Dude, no, you're right. I didn't even think about that, but that's so freaking true. You'll put it there and it's face, ah, yeah, no, I'm, I'm definitely gonna, I'm gonna do what you just did. So I think, you know, try trying to put it somewhere else, um, you know, in your pocket

or away somewhere is a good idea. The other thing that we do is we, uh, we, we only allow one phone to come with us if we're, if we're going somewhere and we're, and we're going to eat. So it's like, yes,, I have this fucking stupid Instagram thing that I'm attached to, right? And so sometimes it's, as dumb as this sounds, sometimes it's important to take a picture of the food. People want to know what I eat.

We talk about it all the time on the show. So my wife will have her phone in her purse, and I'll say, let me just take a couple pictures. I'm not going to post anything now, and I'm going to put it away. And also just to communicate, if for some reason we need to communicate with somebody. Um, and my wife and I do the same thing. So it's, it's my wife uses the phone a lot more at home. I use the phone a lot more if I'm out. So what we do, like when, if it's like her and I were going to eat with some friends or something, she'll bring her phone. So

our kids can communicate with us. But I know better than to bring mine because i know that i'm gonna be fucking around on it you know i'm gonna see something cool or interesting and want to take a picture or talk about it or whatever i just don't do it yeah so that's actually been um that's actually been pretty effective and then um the other thing is like my wife and i we like to watch tv um around six six oclock, somewhere in that range at night. And then sometimes she'll have her phone or I'll have mine or sometimes even worse, we'll both have it. And the kids come in, they ask questions, and then they see like we're like trying to do something together, but we're really not doing something together because we're not even like paying attention to each other or the show that we're watching. We've got stupid distractions. So we're still a work in progress we're trying to do better and and so we're trying

to also have a rule of like the phone just go away at around six o'clock at night but the kids get a little frustrated with that because they get done with school at like four and they got to do homework and so we're trying to just the the kids, you know, they go to bed actually a little later than I do. And so we're still, like I said, we're still trying to iron everything out, but they have done a good job in the past of putting the phones up at seven or eight, whatever time we designate. And it's just sitting there on the charger. And then the rest of us just have to follow suit. The wifey and I got to follow suit. My phone never, I don't even allow my phone to enter our bedroom. I just don't do it.

And then I've tried to get my wife on board, same thing, but she always uses the excuse that she'll use it as an alarm. And I'm like, I use it as an alarm sometimes too if I have to wake up super early, but it's not in the room. The damn thing's loud enough to wake me up. And then the kids aren't allowed

to have their phones in the room either. Kids aren't allowed to have their phones in the room either. Kids aren't allowed to have any technology in the room. Oh, really? Why is that? Why is that? I just think it's too huge of a distraction. And I don't really know who they're going to be interacting with or what's going on.

There's just too many fucking weirdos out there. That makes sense. Yeah. One of the best things I like about the screen time app is setting the downtime hours. That's huge. Yeah. Cause like,

you know, Mark, you always say set an alarm to go to bed and like, well, it tells you like, and none of that, but like the screen will go dark, you know,

it'll go black on you and saying, you know, like, Hey, it's, you know, downtime now you can easily get rid of it and keep moving, but it's still like,

it's a reminder and you kind of feel like, Hey, this is what I set for myself. And am I really going to go against what I set for myself? And then you kind of like, you feel like shit because you're… It's a reminder, though. Yeah, because you're going off of your discipline, right? And then, yeah, so that's one of my biggest, or what I think is one of the biggest benefits of that screen time setting on your phone.

Yeah. The other thing that I do, too, is I have that night shift thing on there. Oh, yeah. So it'll pull out almost all light you know later on in the day and by that time it's like i can barely see anything on there anyway yeah yeah it's like i can barely read it so i'm like fuck it i'm just gonna put it away yeah you know what i like i airplane mode it too like at night because of the weird you know there's people that think there's weird like wi-fi signals that could potentially uh keep your brain waves awake a little bit so i just

i i don't know i don't know the information you know one way or the other but i just know a lot of people have talked about that in the past so i just do it yeah that's awesome i don't need it on i mean i don't need the i don't need my internet on for any reason in the middle of the night so that's true yeah i usually put my phone in there like well i put on do not disturb not the same as airplane i put on do not disturb just because there's one person i need to be able to reach me so but what i was going to say andrew and i were mentioning this this is just very small but like the fanny packs oh yeah the fanny packs actually make me reach for my phone less because instinctually like in the past when i reach for my phone i go in here but i gotta actually pull the fanny pack.

You got to be conscious of it. Open it up. Yeah, yeah. So it's actually a deterrent to pull out the phone, I think, a little bit more. Yeah, it's kind of great. It's silly, but yeah, it actually works because I was just telling him, like, you know, I'll put my hand in my pocket and it's just a pocket. I'm like, okay, cool. Like, you know, have the conversation.

When I have my phone in my pocket, I put my hand in my pocket. Cocket. I touch my cocket. My cocket. Playing some pocket pool? Yeah. Yeah, I feel my phone in my pocket, I put my hand on my cock. Cocket. I touch my cocket. Playing some pocket pool? Yeah. Yeah. I feel my cocket. I feel my phone and I'm like, hmm, I wonder what's going down on Instagram right now.

Yeah. And you just pull your phone out and you don't think anything of it. But if it's not there, again, you just don't think about it. Have either one of you ever deleted Instagram from your phone? No. No, I have not. It's actually kind of cool. It's a cool practice.

It's really easy to put it back on there instead of two. But it's funny because you grab your phone and you realize there ain't nothing to do. You got to re-download it. Yeah. You're kind of like, there ain't shit to do. Because that's kind of the go-to, right? I have Twitter. I have Facebook on my phone and stuff too.

But I never – I don't really use any of that stuff. Depending on the day, like if I'm working, I will have enormous amounts of text because I don't really email much. So a lot of my work will be – there will be a lot of texting back and forth and planning of stuff and that kind of thing. But when Instagram, like I've even taken Instagram off of there before just because I wanted to get like extra work done. And then I'm like trying to find, you know, there I am getting distracted for a minute being like, oh, I wonder what's going on. And then I'm like, oh, that's right. I don't have it. And I go back to work. I'm like, oh, I wonder.

It's like it keeps happening. And it's kind of nice to feel the pull. And then you're like, oh, it's not really available to me. Let me ask you this because one thing that's worked really, really well for me is just like turning all of my notifications off. So like I'll put on Do Not Disturb. Yeah, but I just don't have my notifications on because every single time in the past, especially like when those pop, you know, you'd look at your phone, even though it's not something important, it takes you off of what you're doing. And then you'd have a tendency of, Oh, if it's somebody like you, you like seeing their stuff, you then click it and it pulls you into that dirty hole. Right. Hey now. Hey now. But, um, yeah, like I literally just keep my notifications off. Um,

and that, that helps a lot. That's helped a lot for the time. I think there's a lot of people as simple as that is. I don't think they do that yeah yeah like if anyone's listening shoot try that i think you know it's actually kind of a weird thing to maybe just think of it just now i think that people think that they're like they're an on-call customer service person all day long yes to to these people that are dming them and it's like you don't that's awesome that you're responding to them. That's, I applaud you for it. That's fantastic.

Uh, but if it's causing you to take time away from things that you should be doing and, or pulling you away from stuff that you should probably do with your family or somebody that matters, who's in front of you, then I don't like it. I don't agree with it.

I'm 100% guilty of that with the sarmageddon series because you know like yeah i'm trying to grow it i'm trying to get more views and stuff trying to show people i'm not a you know a dickhead and i'll respond to everybody and yeah i did feel like like oh my gosh like this does feel like a call center yeah yeah you yeah you you fall into that kind of uh you fall into a pitfall and you're like it it feels good look everybody wants to feel wanted and you're like who it feels good. Look, everybody wants to feel wanted. And you're like, who's this person? Oh, who's this person?

Oh, who's that person? Like, you're excited. Like, oh my God, this is amazing. All these people want my attention. This is fucking cool. When it's somebody from a different country, it's like, dude, why are you wasting your time watching my videos? What the heck?

Like, of course, I'm going to stop and talk to this guy if he's willing to reach out but yeah i've got i haven't turned the notifications off but i've gotten pretty good to like look over and be like all right i'll get to it like i've been pretty disciplined to not like run run and jump to the phone you know yeah but i think turning off like all notifications would be a good idea because you still get that dopamine how about when people how you do how about when people have that i watch and they keep looking at it non-stop they're like oh you know what oh oh they're like come on i was actually gonna mention that no like um in terms of my apple watch i turn off the notifications on here too we all knew we knew what you're talking about but i turn off the notifications on here too i don't get notifications here and one thing i was going to mention that i think is really useful like sometimes when i go out

um i just won't take my phone with me because like i can still yeah i can still get texts here and stuff or like phone calls yeah but i'm not gonna text but i can't like a text pin and then calls are like it's all weird right it doesn't work great but it works it's a pain in the ass to text so i don't text i'll see a text i'll be like okay i'll just do that when i get my phone back but yeah you can if i really have to call somebody you can call somebody and talk to them it's fine it doesn't sound bad um but yeah it's just like i i don't i don't really even use that feature because like i'm not focused on that anymore so it's it's just so helpful yeah yeah huge i think i think you know the think, I think, you know,

the main thing here is just, you know, try to be just mindful of it. I don't think we always understand like how, you know, how bad it kind of is. And I think, you know, with my kids, you know, they'll, they'll just kind of, they always like, uh, so this is a great thing for people that, um, people have kids and people that don't even have kids. But what you're doing on your phone is not exponentially any more important than what somebody else is doing on their phone. But you want to make the excuse that it is. No, no, no, I'm working.

No, no, no, I have a very successful business. You don't understand. Like, I have to be on my phone. No, you don't. You don't have to be on your phone while we're all having a meeting and we're all sitting down having coffee together yeah right like it's not that important yeah you know you what you're doing is not that important if something is super important because sometimes things happen somebody calls and there's emergency then you would step outside you'd say oh my, excuse me, I have to take this call.

And you'd come back and no one would think it was rude or crazy or anything. Sometimes that stuff just happens. That's just life. But I think what I've noticed with my own children and the mistake that I've seen my wife make in having conversations with them, she's like, well, sometimes there's stuff I have to respond to because I don't even really always go into work. She's like, dad goes into work and he communicates with people there. So he might not have as many messages to respond to later on in the day. And so sometimes when you guys are around, I'm responding to this stuff, which which is fine but then the kids are like well

that you know we're on our phones we're communicating with our friends and she's trying to she is trying to tell them what i'm doing is more important what you're doing yeah and how could that be true that can't be true right is so be communicating with my friends is not important it's like that's bullshit, mom, right? Like that doesn't sound right. That doesn't sound good. And so it's hard to communicate to the kids. You're not going to be able to communicate like up and over them and say, this has precedent over this little stuff that you're doing.

Like kids never want to feel that way. Like remember when you were a kid and like you would play with like adults. that way like remember when you were a kid and like you'd play with like adults i don't know if you guys ever had this scenario where you played with older people and they were like he doesn't count you know because he's like he's two you know he's gonna fucking strike out like he sucks you know he's not even good and as you get a little older you're kind of like waiting like am i when am i gonna count you know when is when am i at bats gonna count or when are my shots gonna count you know and uh i i think that's a lot of times what we're doing to our kids. So, you know, with my wife and I, I said, look, no one, no one has,

no one's Instagram or phone is more important than anybody else's. So when they all go, when it's time to put them away at night, we all put them away at night. And when it's time to, you know, have access to them, we can have access to them, but no one really quote unquote needs it and I think that's the biggest mistake. I think, Andrew, with you getting the Sarmageddon stuff, which is fucking awesome. A lot of people have been following along. How cool is that?

It's hard. You see the comments. You see the positive. You see the negative. The positives are making you feel great and you feel like this is working. This is so much fun. This is part of why I wanted to be on the podcast.

This is part of this whole evolution of stuff. And now I'm getting this intention for stuff. This feels great. And you want to respond back and forth to people. And you want to help people too. Like, oh, man, I don't know. Should I get involved in that? Or what diet are you doing, man? You're looking pretty good. Like it gets you pumped up. You

get excited about it. So you feel like you got to interact with it like nonstop. Yeah. You know, it's, uh, it's crazy to think that like I'm on the cusp, you're a little bit deeper. Like there, you, we know of a time where you'd leave the house and no one would be able to contact you like literally it was impossible until you potentially get back to a phone right isn't like but but like now you're reachable all the time and there's like if someone sends you something you almost feel as if like we were just talking about you have to get back to them because they know that they they have access well if if you like something on instagram and then you get a dm right after it's like i know you're on your phone right now right yeah there's no way you didn't see this message so then you do feel like ah shit but those days were healthier like those days where you couldn't be reached all

the time you know it's it's almost like we need to even though people can reach us all the time we need to kind of live like back then where they couldn't you know just for just for your sanity you know so yeah i like that you need to like almost just pretend that you can't you can't reach me yeah yeah you gotta have that you gotta have that time away at least uh for part of the day you know yeah hit me on my pager. You can only text me in numerical, like, digits. But yeah, what you and Andy are doing is pretty amazing because the example you're setting, you know, you imagine how many kids, like, first off,

those kids are growing up in a time where, yes, if they have a phone, people can reach them all the time. If they have a, not even a phone, if they have one of those iPod touches, anything that has wi-fi they can be reached all the time but like you guys are like showing them that hey just like there's times where you don't have to do this or you don't have to be on it where they don't feel that they're obligated to always be in in uh in contact or always be able to reach back to everybody

at the you know in time so that's good you guys think would you guys ever be able to reach back to everybody at the you know in time so that's good you guys think would you guys ever be able to like go to like a flip phone or something like i think some of these old flip phones like you go back to like i think they still have them and it's actually a little it's emerged a little bit um but you can go back to some of these phones that don't have apps on them yeah there's actually a few like more techie phones on Kickstarter that literally all they have is the number pad so that like you, you can't even text on them. Like you have to call people,

but like you can always be called. So they have those now and it looks nice. It's slim. I forgot the name of it though. I've seen a couple, but the one, the one phone that I'm like super interested in doesn't exist yet, but I want an E ink phone.

What's that mean? So, uh, like if you read a, a Kindle, uh, like want an e-ink phone what's that mean so uh like if you read a kindle uh like the actual e-reader yeah you know it looks different it's not a backlit screen it's not an lcd panel it doesn't hurt your eyes so if i can get like an iphone that's just gray scale the one i'm talking about is really oh you want it to be like a touch like iphone it doesn't matter i'll just some some way that I can text people. That's really like the biggest thing. And it could be stripped of all the other apps. I'd be fine with it.

Yeah, it's on there. I still need to be able to communicate. So maybe I'll check this out. Yeah, we'll find it. If it's e-ink, dude, that's so huge. Like those, I don't understand. Like it's such an old technology, but like it has a- Kindle's awesome.

Yeah, but it hasn't like made its way into other things. Like e-ink is huge. Like, I mean, it's not huge. but like it has a kindle's awesome yeah but it hasn't like made its way into other things like like e-ink is huge like i mean it's not huge it's for me i think it could be like so helpful in so many different things like a e-ink like tablet that you can actually write on like i don't know if that exists or not but if it did that'd be the shit too i think it's so interesting in the future bro i think it's so interesting how and i wonder like what other areas uh we have this like as a society but you know we've come really far in technology and we're going farther and farther and farther but it's like we've taken something to an extent

that we're now feeling we need to pull back and do less like in terms of social media in terms of like you know even even like looking at our screens, right. We're at a point where, oh gosh, I shouldn't be looking at my screen so much, or I shouldn't be using this so much, even though we have the capability to do so. So I just, it's, it's interesting that like, we're now like having to take away or get rid of certain tech in our lives because of the detriment that it has. I think it might be like Albert Einstein. certain tech in our lives because of the detriment that it has i think it might be like albert einstein he said if there's ever a fourth world war so there's been two but if there was ever a fourth one it would be fought with sticks meaning like meaning like we're gonna implode and explode ourselves and fucking kill ourselves so bad with the amount of technology and the way that we can

nuke other people and stuff uh that we're going to set ourselves back to, you know, and maybe even worse, you know, fighting with some sticks. Did you guys hear about Elon Musk wanting to nuke Mars? You guys heard about that? Did not hear about that. Yeah. So, man, I am the worst with this news. I need to like actually come in here with some like real facts. But if I can remember this correctly,

I think there's something about if you nuke if he nukes it and other people have had this theory before it'll change the temperature there and it actually might put h2o uh on mars and make it habitable elon god that man no that that'd be that'd be pretty sick i probably just butchered that everyone's making fun of me right now hey who knows looking for it hey you know on on the topic of mars um if for example it was you want to go that's actually my question to you if they made it livable right where it was like you know you can it has oxygen you can it's like they make it similar to a way that earth would be and obviously you'd have the money to get to like you know if they you know made a spacecraft where they could take people to mars and you could opt in to

potentially live there would you i don't think so i think that like things would have to like i'd have to like know more about it kind of like um yeah you definitely don't want to be the first batch well not the first let's just say that they're sending a hundred million people to mars within three years would you want to be uh one of those one hundred i would definitely say that like some things are a possibility because with like uber and stuff like that i really wouldn't have thought that you would have this app that some random person would come pick you up now you know taxi services were similar it's kind of a random person but they'd have to go through a big old process right this is like literally could be the kid next door that just happens to work for uber and he swings by and picks you up right um and then same thing

with amazon all the different there's like unmarked trucks just dropping off packages to you i wouldn't have really thought a lot of those things would happen i wouldn't you know have i wouldn't have been as accepting of trying those things yeah in the very beginning stages or if someone told me about it 10 years ago so i think this is kind of as long as there's a good progression of it it's like yeah maybe i would try it i don't know yeah i do definitely think that there's like weird shit though and there's like uh sometimes penalties to be paid for when you're trying to go too far outside of uh like what what people are capable of and what what's possible you know what i mean like yeah what do you mean well just like uh like like wealth is not a uh it's not a guarantee that you're gonna like you can't just be wealthy be wealthy and out like money everything. You can't just like because one person has more money than the next

doesn't necessarily mean that they can live longer than someone else. And then there's just been other examples over the years of some things kind of like blowing up in people's faces when they're just trying something too hard. I mean literally we've had rockets blow up with people in them because it's like well you know maybe maybe this is something that we shouldn't really be too worried about you know so uh elon on uh twitter he just you know nuke mars and you know caps or whatever and he's like and he follows it up with another tweet not saying it solves everything mind you but it's a step in the right direction. Yeah, that's great. What a crazy, crazy bastard, you know, kind of on this topic of, you know, um, you know, trying to, you know, free up some time,

uh, away from, you know, starving yourself or fasting your way away from your phone a little bit. Um, you know, it can, it can free up some time in other places, but what about, what about just implementing this into other parts of your life? Like Jason Kalipa, he wrote a book called The Amrap Mentality. And a lot of what's behind The Amrap Mentality is it all comes from CrossFit. I have the time domain. So I'm going to hang out here, boom, set my clock. He like actually does that.

He'll – let's just say he wanted to, let's say that he wanted to check Instagram and he wanted to make a post. He'd be like, what's a reasonable amount of time to associate with that? It's going to take me 10 minutes to do a post and I can look at it for 10 minutes. Okay, 20 minutes, boom, sits down in a coffee shop, 20 minutes is up. His little alarm thing goes off and he moves on to the next thing. What if you applied it to a lot of other aspects of your life? So you're not like, you know, in the gym forever. You know, you're not in the gym for four hours. You can, you can maybe apply

it to other things so that maybe you can try some new things, maybe something new, you know, maybe you've always wanted to try something new, but you're like, I don't have time for that. Well, maybe you can make time for it if you, you i guess yeah wait if you stopped wasting time in other areas and i always think about you know what i always think about these like little transitions that we have in a day you know from getting from one thing to the next now i i end up being a staller i stall a lot and then it like leaves me a little bit behind and so i Now, I end up being a staller. I stall a lot and then it leaves me a little bit behind. And so I don't always end up places exactly when I should, right? But I could be better at it. And it's something I do recognize. And it's something that I do better at here and

there. I think everybody can be a little bit better at that stuff. And I think if you were to think about like a wrestler, like a collegiate style wrestler or MMA or jiu-jitsu, you know, jiu-jitsu even like there's posturing, you know, like if we're going head to head, right? Now, I'm not trying to give you like a break. I'm not trying to give you a rest. I'm not trying to like let you relax. But there's even posture like that shows you that, hey, I'm kind of in relax mode. And then what do you do? You're like, hmm, okay, we're taking some time off. Now you might, you know, utilize a technique to make me think you're tired or make you, you know, and you might lead

into another thing. But what if your transitions always kicked ass? And what if you just never let up? What if you were never let up yeah what if you were like always on your way to something you're always on your way to doing something and even in jiu-jitsu you know while you would normally think okay this is like we just hit we just uh sprawled and like we were going for something we both are kind of dying because we've both been working for a position really hard and now here's like you kind of see the guy stand tall for like why would you stand tall Like you're trying to take each other down. Right. And so, you know, therefore like, what if you're just fucking going, you know, as hard as you can

all the time, even just something as simple as how long does it take you to like get out of your car when you go somewhere? Or are you messing around with your radio and your phone and stuff before you drive off somewhere? Uh, what if you just, wherever you're leaving from, let's say that you did want to look at your phone. Wherever you're leaving from, what if you looked at your phone before you left there, got a couple things done that you needed to get done, and then the second you got in your car, you actually headed somewhere? You know, things like that, trying to make some of these transitions in your day smoother. trying to make some of these transitions in your day smoother. I talked about how, you know, I usually shower at night around seven o'clock, lay out my clothes for the next day and boom, boom, boom, boom. When I wake up, everything's all ready to go when I'm, when I wake up in the morning and it kind of, it's not really like giving me any extra time, but there's a lull in the day

where there ain't shit, a lot of shit going on. Sometimes I'll take the shower even just right when I get home because in my household, there's not really much going on at that time. So I'll shower at like four or five, between four and six. I'll get that done, lay out the clothes for the next day. And now I can kind of lounge around and I already feel like some things are set forward in the beginning of that next day, giving me more time for other things. Yeah. No, what you're saying right now is like, that's what I do with like a lot of the work I do or the tasks that I have during work. If I have like these multiple different things I need to do in work during the day, I'll set a time limit for each.

And there's actually a technique for this. It's called the Pomodoro technique, right? You may have heard of it. It's like where you like, you can set, you want to do something for 30 minutes and maybe you'll take a little bit like five minutes and you'll do another 30 minutes. Some people turn it into a game. But what I've noticed is like whenever I set like, okay, this batch of programming should take me an hour and 30 minutes. Um, if I didn't set a time, it could, I could like take a, you know, two hours or something something because during that task, you get a little sidetracked. But if you set a timer for how long you want it to take you and have that timer going in front of you, you'll really be like, oh, shoot, I have 30 minutes left. Okay, let's focus on this and it's, it's really funny because, uh, I know a lot of people that like work for the state and they have that, they have a nine to five and I hear this so much. They're like, you know what? We have so much time. There's so many low periods during the day. Like if you think about the amount of work they have to do, or some of them, if they, if they really worked for a period of time, they may just be done with that work in three, but it's stretched out to eight because there's so much time that's set for that. You know what I mean? So, and there's another interesting thing I heard, right? Where a majority of people, you know, can, if it comes to like a really deep work that they need to get

done, all you really need is like four or all you can really do and do well, if you want to get deep work done, it's four hours. So if you think about it, if you're having a place where you're having to do a specific work or specific tasks for eight hours, it might be better for, I guess, I don't know, the work world. If things were set in just shorter periods, it might just be more productive for everybody in line. I know the world won't change and go to a shorter amount of hours of work, right? But it just might be better for people if they were paid a little bit more, but were able to work fewer hours just to have a more productive workforce. There's time periods where you're in the middle of a workout and you might think to yourself, oh, what do I want to kind of finish

with? And you might think of a couple things, but you're like, yeah, those things don't really, they don't really match up with anything that I care about at the moment. So I'm not going to do them. Right. So you're not going to like waste your time with it. I'm going to waste my time with a tricep kickback. Cause that's not something that I feel like working on right now. Right. You're not going to waste your time with, with some of these, uh, exercises that you don't feel provide value for you at that moment. So kind of like what if you kind of thought about everything that way um and even your training it's like do you do you really need to like have 12 exercises and a workout i think you could probably and do you really need to work out for two or three hours

probably work if you're really working hard i I mean, shit, a CrossFit workout, sometimes some of those Metcons are like 15 minutes. I mean, that's including the warm-up. It's like a 12-minute thing that you do, and you're dead. You want a killer workout? Try 21-15-9 of doing some deadlifts with a really light weight. Do 21 reps of that. And then in between that, do like a box jump.

You know, go back and – so 21 reps of the deadlift, 21 reps of the box jump. And then do 15 reps of the deadlift and 15 reps of the box jump. And then do nine of the deadlift and nine of the box jump. I mean, look, there's a lot of ways you can have a really efficient – and you could try that for like two or three, I mean, you're gonna be dead. You could try it for a round if you never did it ever, you know, never tried it before.

Your heart is gonna feel like it's gonna wanna explode. You'll feel great. You'll feel sweaty. You'll get a lot of, you know, some deep breathing in in that workout for sure. But like, what if you kind of just thought like, how do I, and you don't wanna be a maniac about everything all the time you know you don't want to put your girlfriend on the timer you know hey what are you doing oh nothing you only have 18 more minutes so

you better hurry up you better say something good or i'm out of here right oh man you know you don't want to be doing stuff like that and you want to be doing be you know uh too uh like militant about everything right but at the same time you know you got shit to do and you want to be productive and you want to try to do the best that you can and i think that's what i see a lot of times in fitness is people just spend way too much time in the gym and i think figuring out ways of knowing that you're going to be there the next day is is a great place to start when you're going to be there the next day is, is a, is a great place to start when you're midway through your workout.

You should think about when's the next time you're coming in. Because if, if the answer is like, you're not going to be able to get into the gym or get the style of workout that you like, because you're going to be out of town for a little bit and you're then maybe stay there a little bit longer. That's okay.

But for the most part, you're like, well, I i'm gonna be here tomorrow morning i might as well i'm gonna do two more things and i'm out get get some productive stuff done and get the hell out of there yeah i know if if your workouts would take you two and a half hours i can understand if you're only training like two times three times a week i can get that but if they're too like if they're that long and you're getting in there four or five times a week six times a week there's a there's a lot of efficiency that's being why do you think people do that like you think people are scared like that they're not going to get the results no i think that there's probably a lot of uh probably a lot of being on the phone probably too much resting in terms of rest periods that's one thing i notice a lot um like they'll do a set and then they'll

wait like three minutes until their next set i can understand that with the big lifts especially when doing a heavy compound movements but when you're like when you're going from you know let's say it's a hack squad or something else you don't need to be spending three four minutes resting um that's why i really try and like when i whenever i come in here i try to like lump movements together like and do one movement then other movement, come back to the other movement back and forth so that I'm not taking too long. And so that I can get done with my workout within an hour, hour 15, maybe an hour 30. I put it all together. I think a lot of people will have like much more intense, much better, like better feeling workouts if they did that.

I really liked that a lot. An example might be you might do some leg curls in between doing some like walking lunges. They both work the hamstring quite a bit, but the leg curl is not going to cost you a lot in terms of how you're able to lunge. So you're not going to all of a sudden go to do your lunge after you did some leg curls and like just crash on the ground because you're holding 25 pound dumbbells you're gonna be totally fine and i i like uh kind of working opposite muscle groups sometimes you can superset and work the same muscle group and really get a good a good burn a good pump in there but think about this if you rest 90 seconds in between doing let's just say a bench press and a um and a curl just, just set up a curl bar near a bench or get some dumbbells near a bench.

If you rest 90 seconds in between each one, you'll get that whole entire curl and bench stuff done in a much shorter period of time had you have done them separately. And that's something to kind of think about because you don't need – I mean, you would have, I'm talking about 90 seconds rest after you did your bench press and your curl. So you bench press, curl right away, then you rest about 90 seconds. And the reason why we need some rest is just because if we're trying to train for strength and or hypertrophy, we need to kind of reproduce what we did for a couple of sets. We get in a proper amount of volume. So like if we just didn't rest at all to get muscle growth and to gain strength significantly, it's not going to happen if you have no rest at all. It's going to be actually kind of to your detriment and you're just going to kind of

like wear yourself out. So you need some rest, but 90 seconds should be a good enough amount of time. Yeah. And like what we were mentioning with, uh, in the gym, just put a, put the phone in the backpack or something. Cause like, seriously, like even for myself, like, yeah, there'll be times you're taking videos and stuff here, but I'll, I'll keep my phone on the other side of the gym until, unless I really need it. So in between my rest periods, I'm not on IG because that's happened to me too. I've done it before where like I end up going on the gram and then my rest period goes from, you know,

90 seconds to six minutes, right? So you don't need to be wasting all that time, you know, letting that get in your way of having a really good workout. And even if you're somebody that feels the need, we shouldn't say need, if somebody that feels a need to share stuff on Instagram during your workout, then also kind of think about that a little bit too.

Think about what that's going to look like for the day. You might already have in mind some of the things that you're going to do. What's something new or different? What value can you provide to somebody who's watching? Because you don't want to just film, you don't want to film a bunch of random stuff, then you're going to have a lot of stuff to go through. You're going to be taking way too much time in between your lifts, um, for any of that to be productive. So you would want to think, okay, well, I'm doing this cool super set today. I'm going to share that. But what you want to do is get your work in and you're just showing them like your last set

when everything's all, maybe somebody else can hold the phone for you for a couple seconds where you could prop the phone up somewhere. And now it didn't really cost you anything. It didn't, it didn't slow you down much. It took you a couple seconds to set the camera or to hand it to somebody. But you're not making your post right there or anything. It's just, you just, that's all you did, you know, is, your post right there or anything. It's just, you just, that's all you did, you know, is, but you know, I found for me, you know, with trying to share stuff in the gym, I have to be really careful about when it is because like when I first get here, I'm not always even in the mood to like lift and I don't want to share anything with anybody if I'm, if I'm not, if I don't feel

awesome, right. If I feel really good, I want to share everything with everybody. I'm super happy and super pumped. Right. And I try to be that way every day, but it doesn't always work out. Once I get in some lifts, though, my mood changes entirely. Once you kind of got your warm-up done with your squats and you did your first set, man, now you kind of feel the high of the lift and you're like, oh, that feels pretty good. Okay, cool. Then it gets that much

easier to share information with other people do you feel have you ever thought about if um if you like started lifting in this age like do you think anything would have been different with you at all in terms of the way you look at lifting or in terms of just anything about it like let's say you started lifting and you were like 20 years old you started lifting in uh 2015 have you like would anything be different for you you think or no that's kind of a weird question but yeah no i i think um man i think a lot of things might be different. You know, I have thought about this kind of stuff before. Like I thought, you know, if I would have grew up in a time where there was like MMA, I can't imagine a scenario where I wouldn't have tried it at like a young age, you know. But I was unaware of MMA.

Obviously, it still existed. It's been around. You know, that kind of fighting has been around for a long time. But I didn't know anything about it until I kind of, until I got older. But, um, when it comes to actual fitness and it comes to training, I think it would change a lot. I think that I would probably be more worried. I'd probably be more like self-conscious about, you know, what I post, what I say, um, you know, how I sound, you know, am I really like a material expert? I mean, at this point, I'll give a fuck because I've done it for so long. So if somebody wants to dispute it, I can say, go fuck yourself. I've squatted 1,080. You know, I can just,

I can just, I can just, you know, say like, I've done some of these things, right. But maybe like, maybe through that experience of doing it later and starting everything later, maybe I wouldn't have taken some of the same path. I can lean on my strength and say, well, what you're saying is not true or I have this experience this way. Or I can even just flat out share my experience. I don't need to argue with anybody about it and say, this is what I've been able to do. This is how it's worked for me. This is how it's worked for a lot of people in this gym. But yeah, if I would have started a lot later, I think things would have been a lot different.

I think I'd also really – I think I'd have some body image issues. I feel like I have a pretty healthy body image issue of myself now, and I have for a long time. But when I was a kid, I got a little bit fat. As an adult, I kind of like purposely got fat, which was a little different. So I never really cared too much about that. But in this day and age, just with like the way that social media is,

I mean, that's kind of the game is like to be in shape and to be strong. I don't know if I would have, like if I would have started everything later, would I have allowed myself to even get to like 300 pounds you know what i've allowed myself to really push that far and that hard and um i don't know like all kinds of things could change maybe even the negative comments dude like you're so fucking fat why are you even bothering the bench no one cares dude you you weigh 300 pounds you know like maybe after a while i'll just be like oh they're right i'm fat

i'm gonna change you know change what i'm doing so i think it's a kind of a cool question yeah no it's i've thought about this a lot i think it's it's really uh it's really challenging i know we've spoken about this a little bit too in the past but i feel like it's uh it's a different kind of beast nowadays like there's this guy i work with he's a he's 21 um and he was talking to me about this we talked about this in length he's like yo man he was talking to me about this. We talked about this in length. He's like, yo, man, like I'm trying to do this. I've been lifting that long. And it's really, really tough.

Like he sometimes gets depressed because he's like, I mean, yeah, I know I got to put in more work. I got to put in more years. When I see just like all of you just like so jacked and you're doing this, I, I don't know if I can want to give myself the time. Like he, it's really tough. Uh, you know, cause I think the big thing that I was able to do was just like, like, first off, I was able to start lifting before social media was so big and before it could really have that effect on me. Um, but I also learned to just kind of fall in love and training before anything else, because I'm not, I'm not in love with the physique, but I'm in love with the feeling of training and that type of thing but if you're growing if you're like

seeing all of this getting all of this information and seeing all of these people who in who are inspiring right it's really really really tough not to uh not to just feel down on yourself for not being close to that level yet you know yeah and you feel like they have it all and you don't have nothing exactly and and then like i think it all and you don't have nothing. Exactly. And then like, I think, you know, being naive is actually a really, a really powerful, powerful piece of the recipe. You know, like when you're mixing everything up

in a blender, it's like throw in some of that because that's actually important to not really know what's going on. So like, you may have still saw people in magazines and you may have saw some people at the gym, but you're like, ah, I'll get there. Like probably only take me like six months, you know, like, like, Oh, Kai green. Like, yeah, he's pretty big. I saw, you know, some pictures of him, but like, you know, I I'm sure I'll at least be halfway there, you know, at the end of this year, I had no clue, man. I had no clue. Like I, this, this is another thing I've thought about too.

Yo, if I started lifting, if I was about too. Yo, if I started lifting, if I was born a little bit later and I started lifting at like 16 in the age of social media, seeing everything I see, I may have tried to, I may have taken something. I think I really might have just because I would have thought that that's the way, or that's the only way. Because like you see a lot of people,

some people make really irresponsible videos saying hey this is my stack and this is what you need to take if you actually want to get big and like you all these people are saying ah you really can't get this big or this strong without this being young and impressionable i would have thought that's true i and everybody else who's saying it is possible to get that strong potentially, um, without it, I wouldn't have believed him. I think I may have actually gone down that road because I was like, I would have been easily influenced, but I was lucky enough to be lifting in an age, like at an age where there wasn't much social and being naive. Like you said,

like, I didn't know what the hell was out there where i just like i lift and get big that's how it's done and it was it was that that was the way for me it's also i think important that your mom you know encouraged you with soccer yeah you know and it's like if you didn't play soccer you know you just you'd be a completely different person it shaped so many different things for you and then um you know when I think back to some of my stuff, my parents always been encouraging with sports and stuff too. And I think that it's not necessarily just a sport. It's the fact that you were just doing something

and the parents were behind it. Like Andrew, you say your daughter is into dance. Like it doesn't matter what the thing is. It's just like, it's just a something. It could be playing the piano. Like it doesn't have to even be exercise but you're into something and that ends up being something it really it changes your life forever as weird as that sounds it in it even if you only did it for a few years it changes a

lot of things yeah and mark i'm curious and i mean this could be a totally different podcast but like when you were chasing those gigantic numbers like how the hell did you keep it all together at home with the family and have time you know that is a totally different podcast yeah i know and so hopefully we can you know start up another one in a little bit here but that's really what i'm curious about because like by no means am i even like my fingers on the surface i haven haven't even scratched the surface. Right. And I'm looking around at the clock every single day. Like, dude, I have to go to bed two hours ago in order to make this work.

And I'm like, dude, this is just to go train in the morning to feel better, to be a healthier person. I can't imagine trying to squat over a thousand pounds and what that's like, what that entails. So I just didn't, I just didn't know anything. Again, like, you know, sprinkling a lot of, a lot of being naive. I just didn't know any better. And I was like, I'm just going to figure this stuff out and I'm going to make, I'm going to make things work. Um, I kind of think I'm a believer in, you know, uh, like kind of forcing things to work. Like I might not always have the right decision, but it's going to, I'm going to make sure that it's right because I'm going to put a lot of effort behind it. And so when I came to that kind of stuff, um, you know, I, I, I probably didn't hold it together that great. I probably could have been home a lot more, but

it was just, I was so driven and I was so into what I was doing. I, there was no, and what was cool too is cause at that time I, I didn at that time I didn't really see as much from other lifters. You'd still see it because, like, YouTube was still around and there'd be some stuff going on here and there. And there's, like, MySpace and, like, there's some people floating around out there with some videos and stuff. But there's just so much less of it. And because everything was less popular, people weren't as good. As the population grows, as more and more people get into strength, then there's more and more mutants, right? There's like – like if Larry Wheels wasn't exposed to strength training, then we wouldn't ever know what's possible, right? Or Brian Shaw or whoever.

know uh you know what's possible right or brian shaw or whoever so when the field tends to open up uh the competition gets bigger and stronger and better and so like i i only knew a little bit of what was out there and i was obsessed with trying to like beat anybody that i knew but there's also a lot of people i didn't know that were really crushing huge weights, but it's kind of good. I didn't know them because I was focused in more on like myself. It wasn't so much about me like beating other people, but I was like, okay, I know I'm capable of beating some of these people that are around here. So let's make sure we, let's make sure we handle that shit, you know? But the cool thing about that and what I can really be proud of is that, um, you know, you'll hear some people say, oh, man, I really got caught up in my business. And they're like, get fat. They get out of shape.

They no longer are doing some of the things that they love. And this is obviously with Andy. None of it would be possible without her. Raising my children, creating Power Magazine, creating the Slingshot, and going after all-time world records, like all that all at one time. So there was never – and also just even that simple act of trying to figure out how to make ends meet, trying to figure out how to make money. So there's a lot of pressure and a lot of stress, but it's a good thing that i was like so naive that i was

like it's gonna like work out one day because because i'm gonna be awesome at this did you already make the slingshot by the time you hit that or was it like after no i so it was like a lot of the stuff was like simultaneously a lot of stuff was going on all at the same time. Okay. Yeah. The thousand, I don't know what year the 1080 squat was, but it was probably like 2013 or 12 or something. Um, when I, when I fell, um, you know, I don't know, I don't, I don't remember some of that. I don't remember what some of those things were. So I don't remember everything, but I do, do know that the slingshot you know started in in 2010 that was kind of the evolution of um or not the evolution that was kind of in the middle of my prime and

power thing from 2008 until about 2012 yeah was uh when i was at my best last last thing um the thing you mentioned about like being naive like you know you know, with all of that, you're like, I mean, you were just competing against people you knew or whatever, but you were like kind of naive to things. I think we, people, we got to figure out a way, especially for like newer lifters coming into the game, a way for them to simulate being naive. Cause it's, you, you, it's hard. Like inherently you cannot be naive in this day and age. You're, you have access to everything, but how can you still have that push and have that drive? Uh, like somebody who just doesn't know, and they're just pushing at it and there's going at it. Right. I think that

was one of the big reasons why I was able to do something. Cause I just didn't know what the hell everyone else was doing. Yeah. The only thing I can think of is like, um, to kind of play off of that and to still like kind of stay naive is maybe you're not necessarily naive. Maybe you are a little bit aware of what other people are doing, but maybe you just have a really, really strong belief in yourself. And the only way you're going to build up that belief in yourself though, is to have to prove yourself. So you gotta, build up that belief in yourself though is to you have to prove yourself so you gotta you were saying you might have gave up and been like oh it takes too long if you can if you can figure out a way to kind of stay with it and just understand that if you just get a little bit better just all the time there's gonna people will kind of laugh at you at first and they'll be like

so what he benched 100 pounds or you know, he lost 10 pounds or, but after a little while, when, when the time starts, oh, you started working out. That's funny. You know, like people are going to be dicks to you sometimes, right? There's people that are positive, but there'll be people that will shit on it, especially on social media. After a while, people go, oh shit, like he's, this guy's taking this shit serious yeah and then hopefully you can build upon some of that hopefully you can just get enough of if you can get a little spark going then you can get a whole fire going yeah we had to develop a slingshot blinders just just keep trucking yeah yeah like a horse right getting those blinders on

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