Mark Bell's Power Project - Mark Bell's Power Project EP. 245 Live - David "DJ" Webb

Episode Date: September 10, 2019

ST's very own David "DJ" Webb hangs out with us today on the podcast! DJ is an Intelligence Officer in the United States Air Force. He's also a seasoned Bodybuilder and Powerlifter with 474lb Squat, 330lb Bench, and 585lb Deadlift at 175lbs body weight. Subscribe to the Podcast on all platforms: ➢https://lnk.to/PowerProjectPodcast Visit our sponsors: ➢Piedmontese Beef: https://www.piedmontese.com/ Use Code "POWERPROJECT" at checkout for 25% off your order plus FREE 2-Day Shipping on orders of $99 ➢Perfect Keto: http://perfectketo.com/powerproject Use Code "POWERPROJECT" at checkout for 15% off your order! ➢SHOP NOW: https://markbellslingshot.com/ Enter Discount code, "POWERPROJECT" at checkout and receive 15% off all Sling Shots FOLLOW Mark Bell ➢ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/marksmellybell ➢ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/MarkBellSuperTraining ➢ Twitter: https://twitter.com/marksmellybell ➢ Snapchat: marksmellybell Follow The Power Project Podcast ➢ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/MarkBellsPowerProject Follow Nsima Inyang ➢ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/nsimainyang/  Podcast Produced by Andrew Zaragoza ➢ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/iamandrewz

We don't have a rap sheet on this guy. He's got no stats, he's got no information. Damn. I guess we'll just have to figure it out as we go. The government keeps it a secret. Oh. That's why. You don't want to know everything that he does. You can't. Shit.

An assassin, perhaps. You type in David Webb, you get a knock on your door about 30 minutes. Damn, really? Did you hear about Jason Bourne? What happened? Well, in the movies. So his real name is David Webb. Oh, wait.

We got to start the podcast. There's a lot of coincidences here. Quinky dinks. There is. John Cena's holding on to that weight pretty good. Elbow's not fully locked. But he's got over 900 pounds, I think, over his head. Maybe it's 870-something.

I'm surprised he's so balanced today. He's choosing not to fall. But how big are those plates, though? Like, how much do they weigh? They're like illegal plates. I've never seen them before. Custom-made for him? They're like 75-pound plates. Oh, my gosh.

Yeah. I mean, just because you can't see them doesn't mean he could lie about everything. Right? Well, seeing is believing, but if you can't see them. Yeah. Then what do we have to believe in, right? I mean, I don't know. I can see the guy next to you, though.

Hey. How's it going, buddy? Not much. You've been doing this carnivore diet, huh? You've been jumping all in? I have been. You've been eating lots of meat? Lots of meat. lots of organ meat. Oh, and you've been doing some keto stuff for a while too, right? For sure. So I started keto about two years ago or so.

And it seems like that's kind of the evolution people go. They go from like, they mess around with keto and they start jumping into eating meat for sure. Uh. Have you tried some of our sponsor stuff? We've got Perfect Keto. They have Perfect Keto bars, and they have exogenous ketones and a bunch of stuff like that. You ever tried any of those things? I have. I've bought the exogenous ketones.

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But I did remember that I liked it. I don't remember what it tastes like. I got to try it again. But I like the bars a lot. It's kind of hard on a keto diet to have like snacks, right? For sure. Those bars are very good. The thing about a lot of the snacks is the ingredients in them.

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They're creamy, man. They're creamy. Like seriously. They just melt. They melt in your mouth. I'm done. I'm done. Yeah.

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It is. I was shocked because I've had that before, and in the past it tasted like turkey. It just didn't pop with much flavor but i found that the certified piedmontese was still good still legit yeah and it's not as dry as as other companies because when you have that amount of leanness then it could be super dry and hard to eat and it's like in sema's personality no response i'm just gonna stand here and smile he's just thinking of ways to kill me it's like and smile he's just thinking of ways to kill me he's like ankle lock he's just thinking of ways

like breaking my arm my leg no no of course not my face yeah DJ have you tried the hamburger patties yet

I have not tried the hamburger patties but that stir fry beef yes the stir fry I haven't tried that one Andrew was bragging about it. Dude,

it's insane. It doesn't make any sense. Yeah, it was so good. I mean, I don't know if we cooked it like, like the most healthiest way. Cause we did use some like some weird oils and stuff,

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Damn. DJ Webb, you're on some top secret missions over here? Is that what we got going on? Not lately. Oh, not lately. But I have been. You have been in the past, but you can't talk about it. I can't talk about it.

All top secret. It's always interesting when you can't talk about it. So what can we talk about? Which secret missions can we know about? None of them. Oh, shit. And we're not supposed to talk about all these people that you killed. I mean, we're not supposed to mention.

I mean, we can't say anything about that. Nope. What's the connection to Jason Bourne? Are you guys related? Yes, we are. You do look a lot like Matt Damonon he's a handsome man by the way so i've heard that yeah i've heard that many times many times growing up right and uh when i was in high school um the born movie started coming out i never read the books uh the second

uh born movie is uh born ultimatum? And they end up telling him what his real name is in that movie. And it's David Webb. Yeah. So at that time, we went back and watched Born, or what's the first one? Identity?

Born Identity, right? That's not great. And in Born Identity, on his passport for Jason Bourne, same birthday, August 21st. Whoa, wait, really? Yes. Different year, but same month and day, right?

Oh, stop. So moving forward, so that's not it, right? So coming back from Turkey- Did they stop you at the airport sometimes? They did. Like, yo, what's going on with this? So coming back from Turkey, I was stationed over in Turkey 2009 to 2010.

You got to go through customs, and we had our Red NATO orders or whatnot. And so the guy stops us there, right? And he looks at me and then goes into, says I look like Matt Damon, right? And then, so he asked me about it. And then he's like, oh, and you have the same name like Matt Damon, right? And then, so he asked me about it. And then he's like, oh, and you have the same name, David Webb, right? And I told him the story about the birthday. And then my wife comes up. Her name's Nikki.

And Nikki is the lady that helps him throughout the movies. Oh, my God. His best friend in the movies. So then he's like, what is this? They stole your identity, dude. They did. Wow, that's too much of a coincidence

to be perfectly honest. That seems kind of a... Get any residuals or anything? No. Matt Damon give you a phone call? Anything? Nothing. Shout out?

I didn't get anything. Text message? It's kind of like the story about who Sylvester Stallone wrote the movie Rocky about, right? Right. There was somebody that he kind of followed, but he obviously changed it up a little bit. Very little, but maybe that's the same situation.

Well, the Rocky story is about a guy named Chuck Wepner who's a journeyman boxer. He fought Muhammad Ali. And what happened was Stallone went to the fight. It was like a last second thing. He got tickets. He's always been a boxing fan. He went to the fight. It was like a last second thing. He got tickets. He's always been a boxing fan. He went to this fight. This journeyman fighter that took this fight on short notice

knocked Muhammad Ali down, and the crowd went insane because it was like in this guy's hometown. So people were just like, what the hell is this guy? And the guy didn't look like much. The guy didn't look like George Foreman. He didn't look like Muhammad Ali. This guy just looked like a rugged journeyman boxer, and he just clipped him with a really good shot.

He knocked him down. Obviously, Ali beat the crap out of him the rest of the time, but Stallone was so fired up and excited about that moment that he went home and he wrote Rocky and the story is that he like just wrote it like in a notebook in the course of like two days he just like he just like bled out into the you know him uh you know writing this uh epic movie but I always thought that was pretty cool a pretty cool story we've had DJ Webb uh coming into super training gym for the last um

i don't know five six years or so how long has it been i think it's been uh yeah right probably four years um i was stationed up here at travis and i actually uh slid into in sema's dms whoa okay and sema's like here's another guy like i gotta answer all these odd questions again should we like go off the air for this part yeah i slid into and see what in huh dms and i uh was asking you know where he was training i knew he was up here and um he was training at here at super training Training Gym at the old spot and at another gym here and there. And I asked if I could come train with him one day, and he said sure. So that was on the weekend.

And so I came in. We knocked out some deadlifts. Why were you following this bum? So I used to be in flexible dieting a bunch. And I followed a few different companies. Ape Athletics had signed him on. And so that's why I was following him at the time. This guy's right in Sacramento.

Right. That's what I said when I first met him. When he first came into the gym, I was like, I actually didn't. I don't think he really got a chance to talk to you the first time he came to the gym. I just briefly talked to you for a second. You came in during the Omar Esaf thing. Yeah. That was the first time. And then I later saw him down in L.A. And I was like, you got to come to you for a second. You came in during the Omar Esaf thing, right? Yeah. That was the first time?

And then I later saw him down in L.A. And I was like, you got to come to my gym. What are you doing? You're just right in Sacramento. Can't have this big mutant just right down the street and not working out with us, right? Right. Yeah, so I came in that day. You had came in.

You said hi. We talked for a moment. And then I left there, I think. So I didn't know about the whole team aspect during the week, right? So anyway, Tuesday came around. I decided to show up again. And so I came in. I stayed off to the side training.

It was always nerve-wracking to try to get on the iconic deadlift platform in front of the slingshot logo where the rest of the team was deadlifting and stuff. So it took me a while to get up the courage to ask to train with the team and whatnot. But I continued to keep coming uh one thing that was big for me uh was to just be aware of where everyone else was lifting who needed help when when i could go and grab a weight help load the weight or take off the weight um even if i was doing lifting on the side, like that was huge for me because I wanted to, uh, just be a part of what was happening. And you see a lot of people, they're kind of in their, their own world doing their,

their own lifts and worried about themselves. Uh, but here at super training, you know, that was one of the first things that i noticed was you know everyone was helping everyone out and uh so even though at the time you know i wasn't part of the team or anything right i just tried to get plugged in and you know help out where i can um and just just be aware of what's going on and it's kind of amazing what it can do for you when you take a few minutes and you stop and you watch someone else do something and you're like oh i think you could have got your hips a little bit lower you know on that deadlift that was actually pretty good i think maybe you just lower the weight a little bit i think you can keep your back a little flatter it's amazing what that really does for you obviously

it's helping out the other person a ton um but i think a lot of times we don't even think about it and then we just go back to doing even if you don't say anything hardly and you just encourage, say, Hey, come on, I think you can do it. You know, let's go. Or you're just there spotting and just being supportive by, like you said, uh, helping load and unload, uh, the weights and SEMA. What do you find, uh, interesting about training and super training? Cause you've been in here for a while now as well.

And like, we, we have certain rules in here. We don't get to talk about super training that much on this podcast, but, uh, we don't allow people to wear like headphones and stuff like that. And, uh, I think you've gotten in trouble before from wearing spandex.

You know, she about to ask DJ. Yeah. So there's some different things like that. Right. So there's some, uh, you know,

weird rules and we have a tank top rule. Um, what is it? If you, you got a bench over four Oh5 or have big arms or something, I forget what the rules are, but somebody else made that one up, not necessarily me. Yeah, I got roasted for wearing leggings

the first few times I came here because no one told me. I was just getting weird looks. And Seema does have nice legs, though. I'll admit that. Did you also wear leggings or no? When I first came, yes. Yeah, here we go. We were both in here with our leggings and dicks out but yeah i got i remember uh talking to marcus about that i was like let's not have that you

know it's like too many guys are starting to wear that stuff i'm like i don't want to see everything that's the girls are doing whatever they're doing that's fine but i don't want to see what the random bulges yeah yeah so i made that mistake uh i think juan was one of the first people to like really roast me in front of everybody he's like you can't tell if juan's serious or not either i couldn't i was like i'll sit standing there laughing but then he wasn't smiling and then i was like oh god he's being he's being and he looks he looks rough so you're like i don't know yeah i don't know what's going on from then on i wore uh shorts over my leggings but then i was also told hey just don't wear leggings at all then i just didn't wear my leggings just don't do it just don't do it

but no i i like i love the the other training aspect i love about here is like the encouragement you get when you're like moving like a heavy lift like if someone's going to be moving something heavy literally everybody stops they like stop their set if they're doing something lighter or not as like serious and then they go over and yell at that person to help them get that lift. I think that's a really big deal. And it helps a lot. Like it helps a massive amount when you're about to move something heavy and you got a bunch of people backing you up. You just don't want to fail it.

And then if you do, if you do, then, you know, just get silent. People walk away. Yeah. Well, Mark talks about all the time. Like when we have a guest in and we, you know, they a super training pr like right they hit a pr that they couldn't touch anywhere else but they come here and it's like uh nick right was the last one to do it and when he tried to squat 600 he couldn't do it outside of here but he did it here so that's yeah that uh team aspect and having everybody yell at you it's like you feel it it feels awesome

it's a big gym energy yeah we saw We saw some of that yesterday at the meet, and that's part of the reason why you're here is because of the competition that was going on here in Sacramento yesterday where our boy Smokey benched 413 at 198, and he wiped Pig off the board. He did. That was pretty cool to see. And then his next attempt, he tried I I think, just a little bit over that. The 413 didn't move very fast.

And so he tried like 418 or whatever that next kilo number is. And he went to push into it and it right away came back down. So as soon as he got up off the bench, of course, I gave him shit. I was like, hey, way to stick with it, bro. He was shaking his head like you're the worst. What did you think of the meet yesterday? There were some kind of new lifters that are coming into their own here super training yeah it was it was a lot of fun and

i was super happy to be able to be there um for smoky he's my good bud he's your boy i started that relationship you did i started that relationship you did they've been together ever since ever since yeah there's smoky suully was going nuts. He was going bonkers yesterday. And then we had Matt was doing pretty well as well. I didn't get to see a lot of the squats, but I just heard how some of the guys were doing. Yeah, I think everyone from the team hit three for three on squats. Nice.

Which was really good to see. I think the big story, you you know after smoky's bench was uh kevin you know failed his um first deadlift um he went down didn't wait for the down command ripped his hand uh decided to go up after that missed the second one and then taped up his hand and then grinded out his third one. So he almost didn't get any of the deadlifts, but, uh, yeah, so that was really good to see. It's kind of neat. The kind of drama that can surround, you know, the, the making of a contest when you watch, we were just talking yesterday, how important it is to compete and get on the platform,

uh, because like what it does to you, you know, um, how has it been for you? Um, for you, first of all, being out of super training and not being in the same competitive environment and then also not stepping on the platform for a little while? Has it been hard? It's been super hard. When I left here, it was definitely very difficult for me. He's going to make me and Nsema cry on each other. It was tough. Definitely very difficult for me. He's going to make me and Nsema cry on each other.

It was tough. I didn't know what to expect going to San Antonio. And for those people that don't know, the military moved me out to San Antonio. The military doesn't seem to care that much about our relationships here at Super Training Gym, which is kind of odd. I think maybe we can call Donald Trump and see if he can make some arrangements. Get me back here. He's got to have something to do with the military, right? Yes, he does. There we go.

Commander in Chief. There we go. So it was super difficult leaving. And when I got there, I didn't know where I was going to train at. Obviously, I didn't have you all around me, the whole team aspect, the equipment. This gym has some of the best equipment in the world. And so it was really difficult for me to move. And so initially when I got there, I wasn't quite sure what I was going to do,

uh, where I was going to train. Um, Ed Cohen gave me a, uh, a gym to go check out, um, possibly lift at. Why is he so nice? Is it because he's the, like, is it because he's the best ever that it's easier? Is it easier to be nice when you just like absolutely smashed on everybody you just have you don't have feel like you have anything else to prove you don't need to be mean to anybody he's the nicest guy in the world he is he's the most humble down to earth and you know even though he chokes you out every time he meets you he likes to put his hands on you i was gonna

say he always punches me every time he meets me like he so nice, but he beats the shit out of me. It hurts. It does. He's so strong and explosive. He hits you in weird spots. Yeah. So, or tries to choke you out. Yeah, he does. I think I have like three or four pictures of him with his hands around my neck. He beats the shit out of Ryan Spencer. He beats the ever-living shit out of him every time he sees him.

He kills him. It's so funny. I don't know why he picks on him so much, he always whoops his ass and it hurts so much because his hands are so big yeah god he's still really strong so you checked out a couple of gyms that he recommended uh yeah so i checked out um a gym he recommended um i got in there a there a few times, but the whole team aspect wasn't there. And so I just started training by myself, trained at the gym on base, typical commercial gym equipment and not exactly what you need. And then we have a gym where I work,

which we eventually ended up getting a lot of really good equipment, like Matt Wang's belt squat. Did you commission that energy? I did. Did you ask them to get it? I did. That's great. Yeah, we really wanted to set up. I think we need this.

This would be good for everybody. It's really for yourself. That's the best. This is going to be great for everyone. It's really just all about you. I love it. Yeah, we really got a about you. I love it. Yeah. We really got a lot of good equipment in there.

You know, my boss wanted a gym that are the military training instructors could train at. So just like drill sergeants in the army, we have the military training instructors and maybe even have Matt winning, go out there. He's done so much with uh police fire military yeah we would love to get and get him out there i think he'd love to go he'd

love doing that stuff he works with a lot of people um i don't know his experience i don't know how many different uh military personnel he works with but i know i remember him telling me specifically um people that were jumping out of like uh airplanes and things like that because the impact uh you know they had they had when they landed and a lot of times they had they had gear on as well and uh it was tough for them to you know really absorb landing and uh a lot of them you you know, were squatting 135, 185, and he got them to be able to squat more. And they noticed a huge reduction in the amount of injuries they were getting. For sure. Pretty cool. Just being stronger, right? Who would have thought it?

You know, DJ, what I find is like super impressive about you is that like, okay, you've done the bodybuilding, you've done powerlifting, you run a ton. Like you run miles every single morning, right? While doing all this training. I do. How the hell do you manage that? Because like,'ve done powerlifting you run a ton like you run miles every single morning right while doing all this training i do how the hell do you manage that because like yeah how do you manage that so i i started running um you know primarily to stay in shape for stuff i wanted to do within the military and you have to run so we have a pt test every year which that's not a big deal it's a mile and a half um so you're choosing to run? So we have a PT test every year, which that's not a big deal. It's a mile and a half. So you're choosing to run.

I'm choosing to run. Yeah. Eventually, once I'm done with my current job, I want to do some special forces stuff within the Air Force. Oh, cool. That's great. What does that mean? So the career field is air liaison officer,

and they are over the tactical air control party. And what that does, so on the enlisted side, that's what they are. They basically call in airstrikes, and they work with Army Rangers. Me and Andrew know about airstrikes because we played the game Worms. Airstrike! You gotta take into account the wind blowing. You gotta figure out, like, make sure there's no roof above you. Have you ever seen Worms? You ever played it? No, I don't.

Funnest game ever. It's a strategy game, and it's like one person goes at a time, and you have, like, teams, and you're these little tiny worms. Maybe Andrew can bring something up, because it's so hard to describe. And you're able to attack each other with like these war tactics. You can like blow each other up.

You can throw grenades at each other and shit like that. And you can call in an airstrike and you can like bomb the shit out of the other worms. I just picture in DJ's mind. He's like, that's cute. It's so it's it's so funny. Look at this. No, I'm web. I'm trying to tell you man you could train

like you could play this game a lot more and increase your abilities in the military wow look at this he had a blowtorch

he just went to the other side have you ever done that in the Air Force yes or no use a blowtorch I've never done that see fuck

I've never done that dude I knew that this game would help you a lot were you guys playing this recently or something oh my god this game is it's pretty old it's really probably like 1998 or something yeah it's hard the the first hey that sounded negative yeah the first time i ever played that sounded negative yeah playstation one that was the first time i experienced it but i'm pretty sure it came out on pc before that the funniest thing is and seem is kind of looking at this like what's going on but how much fun andrew like you know that he would be laughing his ass off and that's the

thing so yeah it's kind of uh i can't even explain it but yeah you just you laugh more than anybody in this whole world planet and then the worst part is when you're waiting for the other person to go this reminds me of gun bound oh yeah that's exactly you know what gun bound is yeah i've seen that this is this is where they got the idea for gun bound ah i used to play the hell out of a gun bound by the way yeah so it's like that but way better okay you can one of the funniest things in the game is that you can use like a poke so you just walk up to the guy and just push him off because if he falls then he dies too oh no oh look and then he set off a mine oh yep he's down oh man he died really bad anyway sorry about

that no special forces airstrikes we're listening yeah and then and uh eventually i wanted to try to go to um pre-ranger and then ranger school um so within the air force you got to go to pre-ranger and then ranger school. So within the Air Force, you got to go to pre-ranger school first, and you got to get a go and then hopefully get a slot for Army Ranger School. And so that's something I'm really looking to try to do before I get too old and can't do it anymore. Army Ranger, my understanding is like that's one of the harder things to do, right? For sure. Army Ranger, my understanding is like that's one of the harder things to do, right?

For sure. Yeah, their training is really mentally tough as well as physically tough to do. And, you know, it's something that, you know, since I was enlisted, I was enlisted airman many years ago that I always wanted to do. And it's something that's still on my mind to try to achieve and and go get that that ranger tab how'd you get into the military so uh what happened to you dude in high school i really wanted to go um i was in a relationship throughout my high school um with a with a girl obviously you've always wanted you always wanted to be in the military from the time you were um i remember not not as um i was a kid i you know i had one uncle that was in the military and my dad went in um in the guard intrigued and fascinated by it for sure and uh so in high school the recruiter came one time and i asked him about it um and i you know talked to my girlfriend at

the time she's like no no. So I stopped thinking about it. We went through a little rough patch, and I asked her again, and she said, sure, go. And so we dated all throughout high school, so it was serious at the time, I guess. And so at that point, I went down to the recruiter, and I said, I want to enlist in the military. I want to go into security forces, which is like military police.

At that time, I knew that I probably wasn't going to get college paid for. My family, we didn't have a lot of money. You have a big family, right? I do. money and uh i need you have a big family right i do there's uh so i've um seven uh there's seven of us um plus i have two officers or so nine total kids um say your dad would have to sell a shitload of slingshots to be able to put anybody through college with that many kids yes for sure um so and i knew the benefits that the that military provided as far as i could get my schooling paid for and stuff um so i enlisted back in 2006 and then in 2011 i decided to get out

go back to school and then i got my commission and went back in as an officer andrew what about you man you ever you ever think about the military like you know, these recruiters, they go to all these schools and stuff. Have you ever thought of it across your mind? Actually, so right out of high school, I ended up doing exactly what all my teachers said I would do, and that was working at a gas station pumping gas. And a recruiter just happened to come in with his, like, dope-ass, like, cow- I don't know motorcycles. Insert dope street bike here.

And I was like, oh man, that's sick. And he's like, yeah, you ever think about the military? And I was like, what does it have to do with your bike?

And he's like, oh, well, you know, I'm a recruiter. So working for the military, like I can afford like really cool stuff. Like, you know,

what do you want to do with your life? And I'm like, ah, shit, dude, I have no idea. And he's like, well,

do you want to live in Woodland for the rest of your life? Oh, I'm like, my God, no. and he's like well do you want to live in woodland for the rest of your life oh i'm like my god no and he's like oh well you should hop on the back of this bike exactly yeah and that was like i seriously like i thought about it for a while and then you know when i was in high school that was like you know um like uh when 9-11 happened and it was like oh the uh the draft was gonna be you know was gonna come back and so i was like well shit like damn is this like really gonna, the draft was going to be, you know, was going to come back. And so I was like, well, shit, like, damn, is this like really going to happen? Like I was, you know, pretty, I was scared for that, but the thought of actually like volunteering and going and read, you know, and listening myself, I didn't really think about it till that one point. I'm

like looking at my life. I'm like, damn, I ain't, I'm not doing anything like this. Maybe this is a good idea. But then like, you know, after a little bit, I ended up getting a better job and then, you know, stuff ended up happening with photography and stuff. But I hadn't, it was at that point, dude, that could have been like one of those turning points where I was like, my life could have totally changed, but I ended up, you know, I'm not going to lie. I ended up being lazy and just sticking with like, kind of these dead end jobs until finally, finally you know my passion took over with photography but i guess yeah i mean the the long answer is like no except for that one instance where it almost happened what about

you and sema nope and why not it just literally uh nothing ever pushed me towards there like i even even like recruiters i would see them but i never talked to them so yeah yeah i was going to college and played soccer there and it never came to mind never came to mind yeah and the same thing for me and i i'll just be totally honest like i was scared of like the discipline of it you know i i worked out and stuff and like i lifted and like like i i could be a tough guy when it's convenient for me, but like not when there's going to be a routine and regimen. So that's why I've always had so much respect for the military because I'm like, man, that's a lot, you know? And then for you to, you know, to have to pick up and move your family and do these different things. It's a lot of people do that

with their jobs. Right. Um, but man, I think the military, it's like, you know, they all deserve a big pat on the back or a big hug because it's, it's really, it's really an amazing thing. I know that like, I would be too cowardly to do it. Like I wouldn't want to, I wouldn't want to restrict that much of my life to go ahead and do it. Even if, even if someone's like, Hey dude, it's just for four years. I'm like four years. Yeah, no, I agree. That's way too long, dude. You know? I'm like four years. Yeah, no, I agree. That's way too long, dude. You know, so I definitely I've never felt like I was I guess if I had to fight, then that would be different. I would I would do it and I would do it whatever needed to be done, I think. But you never know until you're kind of put in the situation. But, yeah, it always kind of sounded scary to me. And then a few people that I knew from when I was young that were like into it when they were really young, they always seemed like psychopaths to me. And then a few people that I knew from when I was young that were like into it when they were really young, they always seemed like psychopaths to me. They always seemed like kind

of lunatics. I had a couple of friends that were always kind of wearing the camo stuff and I didn't know what plans they had to do what, but they always seemed like they were a little bit off. But those were people that like they knew what they wanted to do. They knew at the age of like 12 that they wanted to go into the military. And so I always thought that was cool. I, for myself, I didn't really even figure out anything that I was doing. I still haven't really figured out what I'm doing. But it probably wasn't until I was like 30 years old, you know.

So I think the military is kind of cool. Who do you think the military is for? Like it seems like you've had a pretty good experience. Who do you think the military is for? Like, it seems like you've had a pretty good experience. Who do you think the military is for? That's a good question. You know, I think, you know, we all come from, you know, different areas in life. And right now I'm at basic military training for the Air Force. And so I see a lot of these trainees that come through. You're training a lot of people. Well, I oversee the military training instructors that are training the new recruits.

Oh, cool. Training the trainers. Training the trainers. So with that, you see a lot of different individuals that come from all different areas of life. We've seen individuals that come off the street and they're just trying to make something better of their life. You see individuals that come from rough upbringings and that grew up in not the safest places and whatnot. And I think the biggest thing is that they all want to do something bigger than themselves.

And I don't think there's really like a cut and dry answer for who the military is for. But I think one of the big things is when you enlist or if you come in as a commission officer or whatnot, you're doing it because you want to serve for something greater than yourself. And you're not doing it for accolades or for someone to say, you know, thank you for your service or whatnot. I think the biggest thing is that you want to serve your country. You want to make a better life for yourself. And just like for me, you know, I, that's something I wanted.

I wanted to, you know, serve my country, give back. You know, the benefits are nice. You know, I knew that there was no way I was ever going to make it to college unless, you know, I had the military pay for it. Do you feel there's other ways to serve your country? Because I've heard of military people talk about this before. Obviously, you can go and what you're doing is work for the country, I guess, in a sense, right? Do you feel there's other ways that people can kind of give back to the United States?

give back to the United States? Yeah, I think just, you know, in general, you know, I think one of the biggest things is no matter who you interact with on a daily basis, giving back by just being positive, you know, with anyone you come in contact, you don't know what's going on in someone's life. So, you know, sometimes just a simple smile, you know, can make someone's day. And I think, you know, there could be cascading effects like everywhere. And you don't know who that person's connected to. And if they know someone that's in the military, you know, I think there's so many ways to give back to, you know, this country that, you know, has afforded us the freedom that we have. Yeah.

And I think the other big thing is, you know, just taking care of, you know, what we're living in. Right. You know, no matter where you go. no matter where you go. I know I've heard Jocko Willink talk about it before, and I thought it was pretty fascinating because he said he's gone through a bunch of transitions over the years where he was in the military and then he was kind of like angry that like, he didn't feel like other people had enough respect.

Right. He didn't feel like everyone else was like living by the code and living up to like these standards that the military has. And obviously, like, how could people live up to standards that they're like unaware of? They don't even know. And maybe they don't know or understand or have never felt, you know, what making your bed every morning can can do for you or whatever the orderly thing is that you're trying to try to do. But then he flipped. the orderly thing is that you're trying to try to do. But then he flipped. And nowadays what he'll say is, you know, there's so many different ways you can serve this country. And just like what

you said, just not being a dick, you know, just being nice to people like, uh, you know, holding a door for somebody else is trying to be respectful. Um, but be a functioning part of society, uh, have a job, you know, cause then you have a job, it pays taxes back into the whole system. And regardless of your thoughts on some of these different things, they can get political and they can get this way or that way. I think we can all agree we could probably all afford to be nicer to each other. We could probably all afford to utilize the freedoms and the powers that we have in the best way that we can in productive ways. I see it a lot with a lot of the people I communicate with, but I think sometimes it's because a lot of the people I communicate with are already fairly high-level people and they're already moving along really fast. So they don't have any problem helping somebody along because they're no longer like angry.

Maybe that's the way Ed Cohn operates, right? Because he's already like, he's already done all his shit. He's already ahead. And it's almost easier for him to help someone along. But when you're young and you're kind of struggling, you're kind of angry and you're kind of, I don't know. You're just in like a different position, you know? So I think it's cool like there's there's definitely more ways than one uh to help you know this uh society

and community and just help America be better right for sure yeah um before before we go too deep I do want to know this I don't know if we should save this till the end. DJ has one of the absolute best poop stories that I've heard in my entire life. I think it is the best poop story I've ever heard. Would you be comfortable telling us that later? Should we save it for the end?

The poop story? We can do it whenever. It's monumental though. We'll make sure to save that. But I want to know this what are you doing in terms of eating right now because like you've done like literally every diet i remember when we talked when we first met you were doing flexible dieting you've done keto you've been carnivore what do you like the most now uh right now you know i like uh carnivore for sure yeah um i you know i started it at the beginning of this year during world carnivore month. And, uh, from there, um, it kind of transitioned to more nose to tail carnivore approach where I'm having more organ meats and whatnot.

Eating a lot of tail. um you know and i still include you know some uh ketogenic type foods like avocados olive oil and stuff like that if i'm at a nice restaurant and they have a good caesar salad that has creamy creamy dressing and no croutons of course you know i might i might get that as a side um you know it's weird right that turns into a treat. It does. Right? Yeah. Isn't that strange? Like your cheats is a salad.

For sure. Or your cheat might be fruit or something. Like it's not typically part of your normal plan, but it's maybe even some rice or maybe some potatoes. Maybe you just have them here and there, but it's something that kind of keeps you going, keeps you motivated. For sure. And I'm not super dogmatic about it or anything. Um, we just got done doing an experiment,

uh, last month with UCAN and taking UCAN starch, um, pre-workout, um, and, you know, testing our ketones and glucose, um, fasted pre-workout and then 30 minutes post-workout. And then we had one carb up day where we had body weight and carbs. And I did, so during that time, you know, I did some vertical diet stuff. And then, you know, eat corn squash or, you know, sweet potato as the carb sources. Now that's kind of a way to like kind of cheat the system, right? It's a way to like the UCAN carbohydrate deal is, I kind of forget some of the research behind it, but it's basically a way of getting in some carbohydrates into your diet without really spiking your insulin and potentially kicking you out of ketosis. Is that correct? Yes. So it's about 20 grams of carbs and we took it pre-workout. Um, and then, uh,

Feel anything like, did it like feel like much difference or notice anything or? For me, I didn't, you know, I didn't feel too much of a difference. Um, you both know me, you know, I'm always high energy and I'm always moving around and sneaking in extra sets in between rest times. Did it at least taste okay? It did. For sure. Yeah.

But, you know, we started a different program at that time too. So you kind of got to take everything into account. And I think there's a lot of placebo effect too. If you know that you're taking in some carbohydrates, you're automatically going to be training harder or longer, um, to ensure that you're utilizing all those carbohydrates that you just ingested. I had a hard time remembering some of the names around that. Who, who was behind that? Do you know? Um, for the UCAN or the experiment? Yeah. The UCAN. Yeah. Um, so we did it with Danny Vega.

I know Danny Vega, yeah. Is how we did the experiment with. We got plugged in with him. There's a doctor here at the University of Davis. He taught for like 30 years. He's a big keto guy. I think he's either partially responsible for the product itself or I can't. I don't know why I'm not remembering.

But it would be great to get him on the podcast, get some of his thoughts on it. But you didn't really notice much of a spark in your training. It's just a placebo effect. You just felt like you could get after it a little bit more. I mean, I think maybe I didn't die out as quickly in the end. I guess you could say the same thing with if, if like we ate like rice before we trained, like maybe you don't like notice, notice, right? Yeah.

Yeah. But then the whole point is, is, you know, for the performance aspect. But also I think the more adapted you are on the ketogenic or carnivore diet, um, and using fat for fuel, I think that, um, you know, it's still just as good, but, um, I like, you know, I like experimenting and trying new things and, you know, maybe if I, you know, tried it, we did it. So we did it for about three weeks um and you know i think there was some positive effects you know we did it to um you know our main focus was muscle building and stuff so um why do you think the carnivore diet feels the bests that I have for a lot of crappy food.

DJ Webb is on a schedule. For some reason, I don't know what happened, but like maybe we're traveling to some events or something like that. But it happened like two or three times in a row where I saw him just chowing down on something. Maybe it was like dessert or something. I can't even remember what it was now. But I was like, dude, what like what happened like what are you doing and the first time you're like oh you know i'm on a schedule like every fourth fifth day i have some carbs and i was just like oh okay no big deal but then it was like the next night and like a couple more

times i was like dude what kind of schedule what kind of schedule is this you know what's going on here scheduling carbs and non-stop or what and what I love about like DJ's Instagram is him and his family. They take all these crazy pictures for every national day. And my favorite one was like National Cereal Day. And you guys were pounding like 10 different cereals in like one sitting. And I'm like, that's where I want to be in life. It's so good. It's cereal night.

That's kind of fun. Cereal night. I like that. Yeah, it's really cool. Just grab your favorite cereals and go to town. Do you have trouble with, like, binging and stuff like that? So I do have a history, you know, of binging and purging. Do you have an eating disorder,

or did you have an eating disorder, do you think? Do you have an eating disorder or did you have an eating disorder, do you think? So it took me a very long time to label it as an eating disorder. But I think definitely it, you know, went along the lines of bulimia and whatnot. What did that look like for you? So I kind of started, you know, after my bodybuilding show back in 2007. You know, mentally, I was looking at food as either, you know, good or bad. You know, I did the typical back in the day called bro dieting or, you know, bodybuilding diet.

And so there were a lot of foods that were not a part of the plan or the schedule. And so when I went out to a restaurant or whatnot and I decided to eat quote-unquote bad foods, that would put me in kind of a frenzy where I would binge on those foods. Later on, my buddies challenged me into a cookie eating contest and there's a few dozen cookies that I chowed down on and then I had to go to go to work that night and I went to work and my best friend at the time was my boss I worked at a bar while I was in the military as well as a bouncer and a barback and I just just told him, Hey man, I don't feel good. I need to go. I feel like I'm gonna throw up. Um, so, you know, I went up to the bathroom

and I, uh, at the time I, you know, I proceeded to, you know, make myself throw up. Um, and I did it probably, you know, upwards of 30 times. And I And I left that bathroom feeling like I did that morning. I felt lean. I felt like I hadn't eaten any food. And so that's what put in my mind that, look, I can eat whatever I want, get rid of it, and then proceed. And I never ate it. So, you know, I started doing research and trying to figure out, you know, how long does it take for your body to actually absorb those calories.

And I think when I looked it up, it was like 45 minutes or something. So for the next, you know, 10 some years. There was times where, you know, it wasn't happening as often as others, but anytime I chose to get off my diet, um, you know, it started with a cheat day and then sometimes it was two days. Um, and then where I would proceed to, you know, binge and then purge. And then after that, it, it came and, and, you know, started happening a little bit more often than, than not. I appreciate you talking about it. Cause I don't think you hear people talk about it enough.

And if we do hear some people talk about it, sometimes it just comes from females, but Nick Wright talked about it on the podcast. And we, we got pretty in depth with him about how much he just would love to overindulge and love to kind of overeat. And he just recognized his behavior as just not being something that was smart for him to continue onward because he would binge on these foods. And then he would be in the gym the next day doing like cardio like a madman to try to like burn it off and i don't think he took it as far as like uh throwing the food back up and stuff like that but there's a lot of people that feel the way that you're talking about and a lot of people that they just don't for whatever reason like like you're you have a great build you have

a great physique and probably for a very long time, you've probably been built pretty good. You I would imagine. I mean, I think you you might disagree because you might think or feel one way or the other. But you probably never really been like fat. Maybe, maybe, maybe had some body fat on you, but you never really been like a fat person. No, I haven't. Right. So it's important to point out because the people listening to this, they're probably – some people might be the same way where they're not really actually fat, but they got this thing in their head about how they're too fat for themselves. They don't feel good about themselves. How have you been able to kind of turn a corner to feel good enough about yourself to not be – because you told me at one point you

were like really crazy about like weighing stuff and like you were real precise and, you know, I can't do that. I can't do things that way. How did you turn the corner or even did you turn the corner to be a little bit more okay with stuff? Uh, so the biggest thing for me is just being more positive towards myself. For a long time, I was extremely negative about myself. And just mentally, I would talk to myself and call myself fat. I had a lot of shame in what I was doing with the binging and purging and everything. So it just took me a really long time to kind of release some of that shame and, and really, you know, label it and, you know, take it for what it was. You know, I, there's a lot of time of me just denying what

was happening. And so I think what was huge for me was to be able to just, you know, say, say to myself what was happening and then start being more positive to myself. And the other thing is, you know, I have two kids and I don't want them to ever grow up and have the same issues that that I've had. that I've had. And one of the times that I had been binging and I had a purge, you know, I was traveling with my daughter and she was probably three at the time. She's now six. And we were going through the airport and I'm over here at Sacramento and, you know, I told her, hey, I'm not feeling good. You feel like I'm going to throw up. We went in the bathroom, and I had her stand in the corner and face away from me as I proceeded to make myself throw up. And we left there.

We flew back through there like a year later, and we walked by that same bathroom, and she says, Dad, if you need to throw up there's the bathroom and this time she's like barely four and uh that's really when it hit home for me and I knew I had to I had to make a change and so um you know it's it's been a a journey and a you know somewhat of a struggle, you know, since that point over the last couple of years, but I've definitely made, you know, a lot of progress in that. And then, you know, with the diet change and doing carnivore and stuff, you know, I'm able to,

you know, not track anything, which I could be pretty OCD about, like you said, is that would even put me in a binge even though I was technically I could eat whatever food I wanted if I went over my quote-unquote macros then I was like screw it I'm gonna just keep on eating so with you know the carnivore and ketogenic diet I think just eliminating those cravings for those foods, period, definitely has helped me to, you know, move past that. Am I 100% healed? Probably not.

But I would like to get to a point where it's my kid's birthday and I can enjoy a slice of cake and be okay with it, you know? Yeah. slice a cake and and be okay with it you know yeah okay do you um um you know when uh these kind of cravings do come up how do you handle them now so i don't know you see a commercial for a peanut butter cup or something like that like do you just you just eat it like you just go for it or do you wait a while you try to schedule it try to plan it out what do you do so for me um no i if i start so i start i had to eliminate all food foodie accounts on my instagram really um all the different ones that show you like the new bring it up really coming out you're

bringing up a really important topic and this is like you know what are you feeding yourself every day right like what are you feeding into but this is all you know uh stuff that's going into your brain and could lead to triggers later on well you might not even notice it might be kind of like subconscious you see like somebody makes some crazy brownies or something and you just shift right past it because you're like nah man i just ate some meat but you keep seeing it and seeing it and seeing it you keep seeing pizza and all this other stuff it's gonna eventually seep in there right yeah so i i literally go through my account and take away any of the accounts that like are showing you what are the brand new desserts and snacks and candy coming out um just so i wasn't feeding my brain that like you said because I would start to like dwell on it

and that's where it became an issue if um if I found myself that was able to just like not think about it and not not dwell on it um then then I'm totally fine and um I think the longer you know I've done the carnivore diet and whatnot you know that food is around me, I don't crave it or anything. But I know that if I choose to go in on and have a Reese's cup or something, I'm probably not to the point where it will just stop at one Reese's cup. You also mess with some fasting too along with everything, right? Do you still do that? I do. So, um, you know, sometimes it looks different than, uh, on certain days than other days. I've done some extended fasting. Um, I think the longest was like 72 hours. Um, do you think that's helped you at all with everything? I think so for sure.

But for me, I also got to make sure that I'm fasting for the right reasons. Because sometimes the fasting when I originally started, I think it was Romanilio, I think it was one of the first people I started looking at fasting. And he was talking about how you have a cheat day, and then you fast the next day for 20 hours, and then you're giving your body time to digest that food and get rid of it and stuff. And that's how I kind of started, um, fasting. Uh, but on any day to day basis, you know, I, I'll do 16 hour fast or so. Um, I very rarely like eat breakfast, but sometimes I'll have a coffee with like MCT oil

in the morning or whatnot. Um, and then just depending on work, sometimes those fasts are longer and sometimes I'll eat one meal a day, sometimes two meals or sometimes three. Yeah, you know, C.T. Fletcher has that message where he talks about, you know, like commanding your arms to grow, you know, and you're commanding your body to grow, which is a great mindset. And if you go in the gym and you kind of think about that and you're thinking about that while you're training, get the mind muscle connection and you can really kind of get after it. You can't really do that with diet. You know, I found that

too much restriction, um, is going to cause a really bad rebound effect. Probably, you know, you're going to hold back, hold back, hold back so much. Eventually that's going to want to release and launch you into bad behavior, especially if you typically have bad behavior. If those behaviors are kind of ingrained and they're just sort of there, they will probably always come back one way or the other. It kind of reminds me of people's form and technique in the gym like i see people have corrected a lot of stuff um but it never really goes away you know someone rounds over in a squat um and they get stronger and stronger and

stronger they'll they'll round over with 600 they'll round over with 700 they'll round over with 800 but they're constantly getting stronger so, they'll round over with 800, but they're constantly getting stronger. So, you know, once they, once they get to like 800, they'll no longer rounding over with 600, but they're still, the problem is still there. And, and therefore the injuries can still happen. And therefore you can still inflict a lot of harm on yourself. If you are trying to fast and you listen to us talking about fasting and stuff like that and you're trying, trying, trying, but it just causes you to rebound and causes you to go the other way too much, then it's not great for you. It's not working well. And what I've been trying to share with people more recently, I want to know how you're doing two, three, four days later from any type of fasting at all.

days later from any type of fasting at all. So if you fast for three days and you do, I'm sorry, if you use intermittent fasting for three days in a row and you do about 16 hours each day, that's a lot of not eating, you know, what are the next three days look like? And if, and if you do have a day or two where you have kind of a full day of eating, what does that look like? Did you just go bonkers? Did you cheat? Same thing with any restrictions. No carbs, you know, like I'm doing zero carbs and you do it for a week and you lose eight pounds. Well, what's the repercussions of that?

Where are we at a few weeks later? Where are we at a few months later? I think those are some of the things to try to hold on to and pay attention to. For sure. And that's obviously something I'm always thinking about. And I think with fasting and even doing the super extended fast, you never want to break your fast with like a big, huge meal. It's just going to cause digestion issues. So, you know, breaking your fast with like some bone broth or boner broth with a little whipped up egg in there and salt and stuff is really good.

You know, Thomas DeLauer talks about breaking your fast with lean meat so that you're not upsetting your digestive system and whatnot. But yeah, some, you know, some people know some people you seem to have some ocd god damn i saw his video where he went into starbucks and he like tried to like order like cleanish food and i was like wow what a cool concept and then i saw how ocd he was and i was like holy shit i've met him before and i i've to him before. I like him a lot. But I was like, oh, my God, like I didn't really realize, you know, what a like perfectionist he is and like how into it he is. He's like, oh, I'm going to get these. He got like lower fat, those eggs that they have. What are those things called?

Egg bites. The egg bites. He got the egg bites, got the lower fat ones. He's like, these will probably have less toxins in them. bites he got the egg bites got the lower fat ones he's like these will probably have less toxins in them they're not organic but because they don't have fat in them and probably holding on to less toxins because fat and toxins they kind of go together i'm like holy fuck yeah it's like that would be tough man to be that guy and have my brain going like that i'd want to fucking shoot myself sorry thomas he knows what i'm talking about i know i watched that one i think and you ordered

a few drinks at starbucks yeah yeah what type of drinks to order yeah he had to really he put like a lot he put so much like thought into i was like holy fuck man i just go in there and like i either get like a black coffee or i don't yeah but he's also someone who mentioned that he doesn't fast every day just because exactly he's someone who could take it to that level where it gets too much. Talk more about every other day. Yeah. He doesn't do it every day too. Yeah. You can definitely overdo it. Do you think powerlifting has helped you? Cause powerlifting is like, you know, we, uh, kind of let loose a little bit. We, we lift heavy and having a little bit of extra body weight on you is like,

it's kind of part of it being a little thick. having a little bit of extra body weight on you is like, it's kind of part of it being a little thick. Yeah, I think it really did. You know, I did bodybuilding, um, you know, back in, you know, 12 years ago or so. Um, then I got into powerlifting when, you know, I started training here. Um, and I was more worried about, you know, what I was lifting than, than how, how it was looking. Um, I knew what body weight I wanted to stay around where I felt comfortable. Um, and so, you know, that was probably the first time, um, in a few, in a long time where, you know, I was able to just maintain my body weight, you know, around 181 and, uh, you know, maybe a few pounds above or, um, or lower and not really worry about it. Um, and so that, that was huge for me, you know, um, that's kind of different. Yeah. Being like

in a weight class, you got some, we got some room, some room to kind of go up or down. Whereas if you're trying to stay lean, you could easily like smother over your abs with, uh, you know, four or five pounds of weight gain, right. Just, uh, water retention, stuff like that. Yeah. And so, and, you know, my diet at the time was, um, you know, I started looking at, you know, I was more worried about, you know, performance aspect. And so, um, obviously at that time, you know, I was still having carbs and whatnot, but, you know, I started doing the vertical diet and stuff. You know, Stan had sent that to me early. And so that really

helped. I was able to, you know, stay on that diet and just maintain my body weight. And I wasn't really tracking or anything, but I was getting enough food in, never felt like I was hungry. Um, but I think the biggest thing is, is not really worrying about, you know, what I was looking and realizing that, you know, I was eating food as fuel, um, for my training and, um, I felt much better. And, and, uh, that was probably the first time where like, I really wasn't like, quote unquote, dieting. And so I had been dieting for so many years. You think that's kind of the best? Trying to drop body weight.

Maybe that's the best you felt, you think? No, I think so. Over a span of time, for sure. And obviously, I did keto twice during that time and dropped weight, you know, more recently, you know, right before I left after I did my last powerlifting meet just to see, you know, how I felt great, and I think the biggest thing, for me, it's all mental. And not having to worry too much about what I looked at, unless an inseam is in there with his shirt off, and you got to look at him. Like, man, I better go run a couple laps.

Yeah. So it was definitely good for me during that time. I like what you said there in terms of powerlifting. It had the same effect on me when I started powerlifting too. You stop focusing on your physique. You can start focusing on performance. It just gets much healthier. And then it makes a big difference because, yeah,

it's not like you want to get totally out of shape. But if you can rein that in um it'll help you a lot with just your body image you know you're not worried about being shredded all the time because that that's a dark hole anyway um but yeah that that that's awesome man it's really awesome dark shaved hole manscaped get it today you have that yes you do too oh bro okay yes it's so awesome two high fives on one podcast it has like a little clippers in it have you used the straight razor though i have oh no i don't mess with that too if it's like i have not used that i'll sometimes get razor bumps but i'm not gonna do that. That's scary. They have a straight razor. Damn.

I got to borrow one of your guys' manscaped thing. No, that's disgusting. Go buy your own. The ball oil is the best. Yes, the deodorizer. It's awesome. Works good. Yeah, it makes it smell nice down there. I was proud of what that was when we were squatting the other day. I was like, man,

web's smelling really good today. Don't forget the poop story. Is that? Let's go with that now. You all ready for that? I'm ready. I'm ready. Okay, web, please.

Regale us. All right, the poop story. So this was probably during one of my. I should probably be sitting down. This was definitely during one of my scheduled eat whatever you want days, right? And so that next morning, I decided to run like 10 miles or something. And I know that typically around that seven-mile mark, things start to turn. Well, I was probably like a mile away from my house this is common by the way with runners they like run bounce it out of them about out of themselves

you know pretty much so i'm running and you know i obviously feel like i gotta take a shit right and uh so then i start walking a little bit and squeeze the butt cheeks and I get it back, get it back in. Right. And I'm feeling okay. So I keep on running. Um, and I'm still way too far away from my house. Um, so I keep on running and then now like, you know, where you get that pain down in your lower abdomen where you have got to go. It hurts. It almost doubles you over. It hurts really bad. Right. So, like, you know where you get that pain down in your lower abdomen where you have got to go. It hurts. It almost doubles you over. It hurts really bad, right?

So it's coming again. Brings you right to your knees. You're like, whoa. Yes. Yes. My God. Holy cow. So it's coming again.

And so I start, you know, squeezing the butt cheeks, trying to keep it in. I'm like fast walking at this point. And so at this point, so I run. You can't run anymore. No. I run early in the morning, like when it's still dark out. I'll beat the sun, right? And so I find the basketball court in our development, right?

And I'm like speed walking, squeezing my butt cheeks the entire time. I don't know why I'm squeezing my butt cheeks right now. Yeah, I was too. I was too. We're all worried. I'm moving. And I get to the basketball court has a fence around it, right?

So I get something to lean on and I pull down my pants as fast as I can and it just comes out. Right on the basketball court? Right on the side of the basketball court. Right on the free throw line. Yeah. So it comes out and, I mean, it's a pile, right?

And this is not the first time that that has happened. It's happened before. The last time was around a tree. But anyways, I pull my pants back up and I start going. Now I got to run back home with frigging shit in between my cheeks. Oh, my God. And, yeah, I since have learned my lesson. I bring a key with me to the bathroom that's around our neighborhood.

Got to bring some baby wipes with you or something too, right? I do, yeah. So with the fence though, were you like leaned up against it with your back or were you holding? Like a wall spot? I was leaned up against it like a wall spot. So you like sprayed through the fence? Or just straight down? Right on the ground. Right on wall spot. So you like spray through the fence? Or just straight down? Oh, no.

Right on the ground. Right on the ground. But it looked, have you ever seen a cow mud pie? That's what it looked like. Just stacked up. Yeah. It was not solid. Did you get it on yourself?

Or like, how did that work? I did not get it on myself. That's pretty skilled. That's a really good aim. You really aimed that bubble in the right spot. But there has been times where you think you have. Clearance. Yeah, you can let one out, rip one.

Oh, and you're not right down the back of the thigh. You did not know if anything was going to come out. That has happened. And weren't there surveillance cameras or something like that you had to worry about? So my wife said that there was surveillance cameras around the basketball court. Imagine like you get like brought in somewhere. You're like, look, nothing's going to come of this,

but we just want to know like, is this you on the camera? You're not going to jail or anything, but like we just want, you'd be like, no, dude, man, I swear to God, I ain't me. No, that's clearly you. You got the same cast on and everything. No, man, that's not me. No. I got a brother lives around here.

You know, he's probably around here somewhere. David, it's okay. Like, nope, not me. Not me. I love that one. And yeah, I was clenching my cheeks while you were talking too, because I was like, oh my God, it's happening. He was getting nervous.

Oh, that's great. Yeah. Brutal. You got to be careful with those poop stories. All these different weird foods that we eat all the time. And then when you have a cheat meal, all hell breaks loose sometimes. That's true. Sometimes the next day, I just am pooping nonstop.

Two, three, four times. Just like, when is this going to end? Exactly. I don't understand how poop can like nonstop. Two, three, four times. Just like, you know, when is this going to end? Exactly. I don't understand how poop can defy gravity. Like when I get up, I'm like, how did I get poop like on the top of the back of the toilet? Like it doesn't make any sense. Like it's all the way up my back. It's everywhere.

Like a baby. I used to put labels on types of poop. Like you had different names for them? Yeah. Like you got the rabbit turds, right? Oh, yeah. Little pellets. Little pellets.

You have the disappearing one. Yeah. It hits the hole just right and it goes all in. It disappears. Yeah, it's like a ghost. Because you always wanted to see it, right? Yeah. See the progress you made you have that mountain

that comes out of the oh yeah the soft serve the swirl i got different names i think yeah that's a good one i like that one i call that one the iceberg because you know like 90 of it is underwater yeah people don't know how hard you really work to get that floating like that you have the long one snake that comes out of the water yep and yeah i know what you're talking about yeah i've had some i have some in my my camera roll that were just like legendary if they're legendary i take a picture and i've got some i've got some that are really nice my poops are like the michael jordan effect like every every single one can be the mvp because i just stopped taking pictures every uh every couple weeks for a long time, I was getting these poop pictures from John Anderson.

John Anderson just eats like, I don't know, five or six pounds of meat every day. And then the way he eats his meat is kind of gross because he gets like cream of mushroom soup and like dumps it on there so it's easier to eat, which sounds halfway decent. But imagine doing that like all day. It'd be disgusting., which sounds halfway decent, but imagine doing that all day. It'd be disgusting, and your stomach would kill you, right? Oh, my God. And he'd send me these pictures of these shits,

and it was like, it looked like, you know how the buffalo wing sauce is orange? It looked like buffalo wing sauce just floating in the toilet. I'm like, dude, would you go to the doctor? What is going, it would never be solid. It was just, he's like, I think I'm fine. I'm like, dude, would you go to the doctor? Like, what is going, like, it would never be solid.

It was just, he's like, ah, I think I'm fine. I think it's great. He's like, I'm still getting bigger. You know, I'm like, you're, what is wrong with you, John? Oh, man. John Anderson, I remember that guy. Who's been a kind of favorite person that you kind of bumped into

from being here at Super Training Gym? Because we get a lot of cool people that come around. Yeah, so, you know, people that come around. Yeah. So, um, no, probably Jay Cutler. Yeah.

Sure. I, uh, I love Jay Cutler. Um, growing up, I mean, I used to always like open,

buy all the magazines and, you know, follow him. Um, so definitely Jay Cutler, um, honey for sure. No,

I have opportunity to train with you and him last year. So that was really cool. That was brutal. Um, obviously, um, Hayden and Steffi Cohen. Yep. Um, you know, who else I've met so many. You mentioned Ed. Ed.

Yeah. Definitely. Ed Cohen, you know, uh, just mentioneddick. You mentioned learning a lot from Stan. Stan, for sure. Stan, Jesse Burdick. Um, you know, so many great people and just even you, sir, and everyone else. Appreciate it. Yeah. He's waiting for that. You're supposed to be at the beginning of the bill, not the end. No, yeah. Um, you've had a huge impact on my life so no thank you no you shared that with me a bunch and i think that's pretty cool

every once in a while i will get people here that will um i've had it happen a bunch of different times where people will like stop me and be like hey man thanks you know and then they just kind of because we're dudes like no one really ever talks about that much um but i've also had people like stop me and be like no no man, like, thank you. Like, and they'll look me in the eye and they'll tell me like, you've been one of those, one of those people have done that. And I've had a few moments in the past with some other people that have been here and they just start, the waterworks start coming out and they're just super emotional.

And I usually just, before somebody even like goes through the rest of it, I'm usually just like, I get it, dude. And I just give him a hug, you know, cause it's like, you know, I, I understand it's like a little awkward and how you feel about the training and stuff. And it seems weird, right? Like, why do we care so much about lifting? Like, it's just, we're just in here lifting weights, but why does it make us so emotional? But it's cause we love it. And it's cause we know what we get from it. And so I appreciate you coming to me and telling me you've written me letters. You, you bought me stuff before you you've showed your appreciation more ways than one. And you've always been super helpful in the gym. And then whenever we run a

contest or something needs to be moved, you're like, I'm right there. It's almost like you work here at slingshot. And Smokey's always like, man, we need to figure out a way to get this guy over here. I was like, I think he has a full-time career already, Smokey. I don't think we can steal him away, but appreciate it all. Yeah. Thank you so much. Thank you.

Anything else, Andrew? No, we got the poop story in there. Yeah, real quick. DJ was the first model that I used to take a product shot. And it's the thumbnail I used for this episode's thumbnail. And I just remember I didn't know what the hell I was getting into. But thankfully, it was cool having DJ around for all that. And it was like a double-edged sword because uh dj would show up like 15 minutes early for every shoot we used them for products we use them for apparel and so like it forced me to be on time

at least so it's it was great that he was here on time but he always made me look like shit because i'd be later than him and so he'd be like uh where's andrew and he's like oh he's coming in later but yeah it's it's really cool to have you on here it was really cool to meet you when i found out you were leaving i couldn't even look at you in the gym because I'm like, I'll tell you how I feel about this later. Right now, I can't because I'm going to burst out in tears. It's like, I'm going to miss you. So having you at the expos and stuff, it's been freaking awesome.

The fact that we are distant, we're all still brothers. And so I'm really happy to have you on this podcast, man. Yeah, I'm happy to be on it, really. Hell yeah. I agree. I think we should go eat some meat. Let's go. happy to have you on this podcast man yeah i'm happy to be on it really hell yeah i agree i think we should go eat some meat let's go so anybody listen to this kind of in wrapping up it sounds like the carnivore diet's worked really well for you it sounds like it's something that has been sustainable you still eat other things i'm the same way i i'm kind of on a carnivorous ish plan

uh other things get in my way sometimes and I eat them. Sometimes I have cheat meals. I'm not opposed to eating vegetables. I'm not opposed to eating rice and potatoes and just enjoying myself sometimes too. Just eating like whatever the hell I want sometimes. But it's nice to find something that gives you a good rhythm. And I think there's many, many different ways to diet. It seems like some people like to kind of weigh stuff and know exactly what they're putting into their body because they have a hard time estimating how much food they're eating overall. Other people like to try to use a ketogenic style diet by wiping out the carbohydrates. They're wiping out maybe their potential to overeat by doing a carnivore diet or by utilizing a lot of intermittent fasting like Encema does. It seems like you have the ability to get a nice full meal or two in every day,

kind of still get that sensation of feeling full, all while not overeating. You're probably still, depending on what your goal is, I think your goal, you don't really want to lose any more weight at this point. And so you're trying to make sure that you're getting everything in. But in most cases for people that are trying to lose weight, to me, that seems like the best route is to be kind of carnivorous ish. You could still have your potatoes and rice and some things like that in there. But it just seems like eating twice a day really can work really well for a lot of people because it can just help manage the overall amount of food that you're eating. That's all the time we've got for today. Strength is never a weakness.

Weakness is never strength. Catch you guys later.