Mark Bell's Power Project - MBPP EP. 608 - Raising Healthy Athletic Kids & Staying Healthy & Athletic ft. Jesse Burdick

Episode Date: October 14, 2021

Jesse Burdick was hanging around Super Training so we decided to pull him into the studio last minute to have ourselves a podcast. Jesse is Mark Bell's BFFF and today he shares how he is raising a household of athletic young ladies, from diet to activity habits. He and Mark started a low carb, high fat diet before anyone really knew what Keto was so they also give us tips on how to remain healthy and athletic as we age. Special perks for our listeners below! ➢Vuori Performance Apparel: Visit https://vuoriclothing.com/powerproject to automatically save 20% off your first order! ➢Magic Spoon Cereal: Visit https://www.magicspoon.com/powerproject to automatically save $5 off a variety pack! ➢8 Sleep: Visit https://www.eightsleep.com/powerproject to automatically save $150 off the Pod Pro! ➢Marek Health: https://marekhealth.com Use code POWERPROJECT15 for 15% off ALL LABS! Also check out the Power Project Panel: https://marekhealth.com/powerproject Use code POWERPROJECT for $101 off! ➢LMNT Electrolytes: http://drinklmnt.com/powerproject ➢Piedmontese Beef: https://www.piedmontese.com/ Use Code "POWERPROJECT" at checkout for 25% off your order plus FREE 2-Day Shipping on orders of $150 Subscribe to the Podcast on on Platforms! ➢ https://lnk.to/PowerProjectPodcast Subscribe to the Power Project Newsletter! ➢ https://bit.ly/2JvmXMb Follow Mark Bell's Power Project Podcast ➢ Insta: https://www.instagram.com/markbellspowerproject ➢ https://www.facebook.com/markbellspowerproject ➢ Twitter: https://twitter.com/mbpowerproject ➢ LinkedIn:https://www.linkedin.com/in/powerproject/ ➢ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/markbellspowerproject ➢TikTok: http://bit.ly/pptiktok FOLLOW Mark Bell ➢ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/marksmellybell ➢ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/MarkBellSuperTraining ➢ Twitter: https://twitter.com/marksmellybell ➢ Snapchat: marksmellybell ➢Mark Bell's Daily Workouts, Nutrition and More: https://www.markbell.com/ Follow Nsima Inyang ➢ https://www.breakthebar.com/learn-more ➢YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/NsimaInyang ➢Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/nsimainyang/?hl=en ➢TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@nsimayinyang?lang=en Follow Andrew Zaragoza on all platforms ➢ https://direct.me/iamandrewz #PowerProject #Podcast #MarkBell

Yeah, my dad gave me this. It's a boxer. Yeah, it is. Hey, and Andrew Zaragoza did. You broke it? Is that why you think I break everything? Okay, I wasn't sure.

If you punch the thing too much, the red thing falls off because Andrew wrecked it up. He was going like this. I wasn't going that he raged on it man you ever seen that before i can't believe he's such an asshole i can't believe he hates your dad so much that's not it i know why do you hate papa marco yeah my dad tries to get something nice for the podcast table invest a lot of money and time in the

purchasing this amazing i mean he failed getting something nice. But still he fucking tried. You must've got to set some yard sale or something. Oh no. No, I, I mean, it's a thing that you can tell when it's him. It has to poop.

Cause he holds his butt. Well, he, that's what he did earlier today. He was sitting here talking to me in April and then he just went like this. He goes, Oh, that's the one.

The hell. And, and right back. The hell? And. And. All right. Are we. Andrew, are you supposed to be engineering this? What the fuck? This is nailing it today.

Nailing it. Hey, guys, we're all ready to go. Yep, ready to go. All right. You got the email. That's why you're here, right? And then Encima leaves. I did get an email.

Was it from Andrew? I don't know if it was. I'm trying to check to see if Andrew's doing his job over there. He's not doing his job. Do you know what his job actually is? No. All right. So, I mean, I don't know if that's for you to tell.

Yeah, I probably shouldn't be monitoring it. Someone that knows something should monitor him. Yes. Have you been having trouble with the mustache and the microphone? The microphone has been having issues. With the mustache. Yes. It's wrote you an email.

Yeah. Yeah, the microphone sent an email to your mustache. The mustache has been weird. Sometimes you drink down some mustache hair every once in a while. Delicious. I was going to make an off-color joke, but I'm not going to do it. Which color was it going to be? Yeah, let's not.

Hey, stop there. Stop there. No cancellation for us today. No cancellation for us today. That's been fun. Past couple of days. What's going on, Burdick? Not much, man.

How are you? You popping out babies and stuff? We're done with that. Oh, okay. Are you sure? I hope. Yeah. How's B doing? He's great. He's great. Oh, okay. Are you sure? I hope. How's Bea doing?

Bea's great. Bea's great. She's one. She's running everywhere. She's at that height and age where really curious and everything can kill her at any moment or gouge an eye out or something. She's just forward leaning, right? Always. Like leaning into the big head and just kind of running.

And she's got her hands back behind her. Oh, naruto runs already all forward oh yeah yeah that's great it's terrifying who's who's more scared you or katie um probably katie's dad because he's he comes over and watches her for an hour or two at a time and he's petrified and like afterwards he kind of stands up it's like okay there's my God. He's just been bent over like this, just trying to make sure she doesn't die the whole two hours as she just runs around the house. I was pretty much almost always ready to cry. Because I was like, they're going to die. They're going to die.

They're going to hit something. He's going to hit his head on that corner of that thing. And I would go over and try to pad the corner and set up a pillow somewhere. And I'm like, they're going to just fall so bad. And then they fall all the time and they're totally a pillow somewhere and like i'm like you're gonna just fall so bad yeah and then they fall all the time and they're totally fine yeah yeah i really i really doesn't even like crawl yet he's like i don't know he's a slow starter i guess i don't know where we put him in a pool right and so like he like would kick his feet and move forward so he tries to do that like on the carpet yeah it just doesn't work yeah but same thing i'm like

oh my god he's in his like little playpen what if he rolls over and then like he gets his head pinned against like the sides what's gonna happen then like is somebody gonna notice like am i gonna notice i'm like oh fuck so yeah i'm always over it's super awesome being a parent it's great those parents who are sometimes like it's yeah it's awesome no those parents were like oh yeah my kids started crawling at three months yeah but that shit usually doesn't mean were like, oh, yeah, my kids start crawling at three months Yeah, but that she usually doesn't mean shit like it doesn't it doesn't matter You know makes no your kids gonna sell drugs when he gets older don't worry

crawl early Definitely not getting into the drug dealer. Yeah, well kiss Harvard. Goodbye How are the girls doing they're in all kinds of sports right they are they're doing um clubs softball right now and um high school volleyball casey's on varsity team and uh soaps on the jv team so it's pretty cool casey gets to play um with a girl who's committed to ucla to play volleyball she's six foot four she's um this could be a whole different conversation but um she is she's six foot four six foot four so she's really really interesting she's fascinating uh for a number of reasons her father is the offensive coordinator for the raiders greg olson her name is grace um she has marfan's syndrome

greg olson did he play in the league? I don't know if he played. Well, he's the offense coordinator for the Raiders. He was at, I think, Washington State. But she had open-heart surgery because of, I think, she was senior maybe two or three years ago. Because Marfan's is the pituitary issue where you just grow super, super fast, right? It's a growth hormone thing. But since your heart isn't like, it's a muscle, but it's kind of stitched closed to be, you know, so oftentimes it'll, it'll grow, everything grows with it.

So they detected that she had like a hole in her heart. So they went in there to kind of close it up and they ended up finding a lot more. So it was supposed to be like a two or three hour thing ended up being like a nine hour surgery or something. So, um, she just even overcome that and succeed has just been fantastic. And I mean, she's just a monster, a monster to watch her play is just like, holy crap. It's just a whole different level of volleyball. So it's really cool for Casey to get to kind of see that and see the levels.

And, you know, it, it helps her understand like because you know that's a goal she wants to play um a sport at a high division one college and you know she gets to watch her and watch her work and do her thing so she learns how to do some something from someone who's really really really successful yeah you've been studying uh training for so long and i know that you uh specifically been looking into like how kids train and stuff. And I remember like for many years you've been working with kids playing baseball, all different kinds of sports and then communicating with people like Jim Wendler, who also works with some youth sports and things like that. Is it is it an advantage for you to be able to to assist your kids that way? to be able to assist your kids that way? Or is it kind of like annoying because maybe you see sometimes coaches,

especially previously, that maybe just don't have the best practices to assist the kids to get stronger or do some of the things that you believe in? It's both. I try to give a lot of people as much kind of room and grace as I can because most of the times

these are unpaid volunteers doing this work. So if I'm going to complain about it, I should fucking volunteer and do it myself. And, and I have, I've tried to help, help out and do some stuff, but you know, they're trying their best. And, you know, as long as the girls are working hard and having fun, you know, it's one of those things. And it's always like, Hey, you know, we can find some better coaching and do some stuff like that. And we've able to do that um but for a while it's kind of been like daddy ball where it's like your dad's coaching you and one of these others and then as you kind of get along and you kind of have two paths you can either kind of stay daddy ball wreck or you can kind of go into really competitive stuff so once we got into the competitive stuff it's awesome for me because i put in my headphones

and i just i just walk around and i don't i I don't say anything. I don't do anything. You know, the coaches, they know who I am. The parents know who I am, but I'm, I really try not to get involved. And if the girls want to ask me something, that's cool. That's great. Um, I think the biggest advantage that Katie and I have been able to give the girls is knowing how to eat and prioritizing sleep and just, just recovery in general. You know, I mean, they're, they've been sleeping 10 hours a day since they've been to, you know, they have a better diet than most human beings. You know, they're like, there's crush food all the time. Um, yeah.

Snacks and stuff like that at your house are still usually pretty healthy. I know that girls like to cook stuff. Yeah. Yeah. Bake stuff here and there. Yes. Yeah. Not super healthy, but 90% of the time.

They've actually started dipping their toes into like making, making a lot of, like, protein muffins and protein cookies. So even though they're eating a cookie, it's got, like, eight grams of protein, which is minuscule, but it's better than zero. And it kind of satisfies a little bit of everything. But, you know, I think that more than anything has been what we've been able to kind of give them an edge on. we've been able to kind of give them an edge on. Some of the other coaching, when they ask, and because of just the network of people that we have and who we know, we're able to reach out to some really, really high level coaches. And we're like, hey, there's an ex-college coach who's actually up here again in Sac State. She was the girl's individual softball coach. And she's just amazing, just remarkable. And people like that, we have access to that.

Maybe not everybody else does. So I think those are, those are your advantages. I really try not, you know, I know enough to get myself in trouble and make the girls pissed at me. So I really try to just kind of stay out of it, just work on making sure they're fed and they sleep and mindset, trying to help them set goals and just be motivated. And it's, you know, you understand with kids, it's just like, look, did you have a good time? Yeah. You're happy. Yes. It's like, would you tell me if you weren't?

Yeah. Okay, cool. Then, I mean, you know, there's, you know, there's not much more than you can do for that. And you got to be happy with that. You know, you can't, you can't push them because you never know where they're going to go. You know what I mean? They could push them even further away, which is not necessarily a goal. How old were they when you got them started in strength training? Well, they grew up in the gym because I was a single dad. So I had to take the girls with me to the gym. So, I mean, I have pictures of both the girls picking up kettlebells at like two years old.

In slingshot knee sleeves. In slingshot knee sleeves. So they grew up thinking that everybody had a gym. And they would just go and run and play. And I was very fortunate that I was working in a CrossFit gym. So there was CrossFit kids classes. There was a bunch of MMA. So there was Muay Thai.

So I would come in and they would just jump in on an adult Muay Thai class. And they had no idea what they were doing. But they were just there. And the teachers loved them. And they doing jujitsu and they would just work out with like Jackie or Katie or whoever it was. They would just set up a, set up a bar and mimic what they were doing and just run around. So, um, like actual weight training, they wanted to go, but I tried to push it off as far as I could. I would say they started maybe like to push it off as far as i could i would say they started maybe like

six or seven or something like that they did a they did record breakers a couple years they went to nationals for olympic lifting um and you know that's kind of trailed off they don't you know they don't well casey just casey'll get a bug in her uh bug in her ass every once in a while when one of her teammates lifts show like shows a video or something and then so she goes in the garage and like does it for a triple or something so like she was just like someone's got squatted 165 i think i'm gonna go in the garage and squat 185 for three and i was like all right cool it's like you're a jerk i love this this is great um so you know and never pushed trying to go like max weight or anything it's you know just uh there's weights in the garage and it's just part of your life exactly exactly so your wife pops in the garage and she'll just jump on the rower or jump on the bike right and it's um it's not always

these long uh like workouts sometimes it's just 15 minutes and you're doing your walks and you're doing your lifting and so yeah it's just something i'm seeing it right yeah it's just 15 minutes and you're doing your walks and you're doing your lifting. And so, yeah, it's just something I've seen it, right? Yeah. It's just something that I think they don't. It's interesting to hear him come home from school and like, oh, so-and-so just ate Cheetos for lunch. And I was like, yeah, it's probably kind of a lot more normal than you think. Like, really? I was like, yeah, not everyone packs a salad with extra chicken and stuff like you nerds do.

So, but that's, you know, they don't know any different. And it's weird because we're like, hey, we're not normal. Not everybody does this. So you can't be like, and when anyone is like, hey, we'd like to take the family. We're going to take the girls out. I was like, well, first of all, remember, there's two of them. Second of all, they're going to want an appetizer. Case is going to get the ribeye. Sophia is going to get the girls out. I was like, well, first of all, remember, there's two of them. Second of all, they're going to want an appetizer. Case is going to get the ribeye.

Sophia is going to get the salmon and they want cheesecake afterwards. So if you're ready to spend $120, like go for it. But I just want to warn you. And they kind of look at me like they're not going to get chicken tenders and fries. No, they're going to get the most expensive thing possible. They're going to take you for everything that you got. So, you know, it's just I always try and make sure everyone knows what they're kind of getting into and let them know, like, not everyone is, you know, not everyone prioritizes the things that we do and

that's okay. Um, that's their choice, but you know, it's very important for us. So I'm actually curious too, because a lot of people, you know, number one, you are healthy, your wife's healthy. I'm actually curious too, because a lot of people, you know, number one, you are healthy, your wife's healthy. A lot of people kind of mentioned how, oh, it's expensive to, you know, feed kids this way. Was it actually though? Because like, when you think of like a salad and some chicken, it's really not right. Right.

But like, is it more expensive to do what you do? No, it's not like in general. But if, you know, I tell you, you know, I spend anywhere between five and six hundred dollars a week at Costco. But when you start breaking that up for a family of five for four meals a day over a week, it's like 20 or 30 dollars a meal, which you can't. I can't take the girls to Starbucks and not spend 70 dollars. Yeah. Right. So when you really look at it that

way, no, it's not, but you all, I, I make all the food I cook, you know, we, we do a lot of meal prep and we take care of things. So when you look at it from a long view, yeah, no, it's very cheap to actually do that, but you have to know how to shop, know how to cook and know how to prepare stuff. And I think that that's a huge proponent that a lot of parents and people do not have. And that's when it gets expensive because, I mean, there's days when we're running around. The thermoses is something that we've used because we had a we had a game that last night that we had to take. The girls got out of school, changed. We drove a half an hour and we stayed until about like nine o'clock.

So everybody packed like two thermoses. I made some like meatballs the other day and those have been huge. But if we would have tried to like eat at Starbucks or grab a something, you know, those are 150, $200 days. And I mean, when you really look at it,

you get two of those during a day or two of those during a week that, that makes up any, you know, that makes up me splurging for, you know, the blue styrofoam tri-tip and, you know, and the ribeyes at Costco. So it, I think the expensiveness comes, comes with, um, uh, ignorance and lack of time management. So people knew how to, you know, people just generally knew how to cook just really,

really easy stuff. I do super easy shit and, um, you know, knew how to, you know, people just generally knew how to cook just really, really easy stuff. I do super easy shit and, um, you know, knew how to kind of prioritize their time. It's not that much that that's where it becomes really expensive. And I'm just curious about this too. Yeah. Versus when you see other kids, how often do your kids get sick? Never. I think that's a huge thing right there. We, you know, I had COVID almost two months ago and neither one of them, like one of Casey took a nap and that was just because we didn't have anything to do.

So I was just like, oh, you must be tired. She's like, well, I just didn't have anything else to do. So you took a nap and I was like, they didn't have a temperature because positive, but they're fine, you know? And I mean, yeah, they very rarely, if ever we'll get sick. Same thing with Beatrix, you know, same thing. She had a little bit of a fever for a day or two and that was it. But we all tested positive and it's a it's a big deal. They're they're, you know, they're growing kids. They're very lean and they eat really good and we prioritize sleep. So those are these are things try and, you know, that we've always done. And you know, in a daycare situation or school, I mean, Andrew, you'll understand, you don't know it. It's almost impossible for your kids not to get sick, but you know, it's not like in every week you got to take a hold them home, like type of stuff they've, you know, they, they've been in school, you know, well, I don't know if there's a perfect attendance word anymore, but I'm sure that they've had it when we were able to go to school. When it comes to kids nutrition, they

don't have the same maybe like concern as somebody that you're trying to assist losing like 50 or 60 pounds. They don't have to be as meticulous. And, you know, I know like when I'm over your house, like you guys have like, you guys have awesome, convenient stuff around on top of having like good, healthy food and having like chicken and beef and salmon and stuff like that. But you also have like bars and things like that, which for some people that are trying to lose weight, sometimes those things are problematic. They can't keep their hands off of those things and they eat too many of them. Right. But in the case of kids like you pack this in their lunch, they, it's more like part of their day. And then they probably have, I'd imagine they have like less cravings and stuff like that because they, uh, they have a wide variety of food and they're

probably eating fruit and vegetables and meat. And then every once in a while having like a perfect bar or something like that, when you get to eat like that every day, uh, it feels amazing. And there's, it doesn't, doesn't feel like there's any reason to really be. I mean, you're still going to be pumped about like ice cream and some of those other things. But for kids, they don't have to necessarily worry about the overall amount of calories they're having, especially your girls, because they're athletes. Right. Yeah.

I think being active is a huge part of that, where if they were not active, then you're going to kind of have to look at like, hey, maybe, you know, bar is what like 600 calories right right and i mean case and sophia could crush four of those at a time and it that's a lot it's like a big old thing of peanut butter peanut butter and you know added extra fat so i mean there's stuff that you that in other people's situations you might have to kind of take a look at but yeah it's um and and it is fun because girls go with friends or whatever and they go to the football game and they eat like corn dogs and stuff and they come back and they're just like i feel so terrible like i had to run home and hit the bathroom because this is you know just it just blew me up and i was like well you know it you just got to realize that and you know make your

decision is it worth it to do that or not and oftentimes it's like yeah that's okay i'm gonna save it for you know ice cream here and there and what i think what what what we try to do is we don't try and really like limit it like no no you can't have that it's like look you can have that but it's not a oh hey it's you know we just did dinner it's ice cream like you don't get it all the time it was like you yeah we're gonna skip it today so then it's just like oh okay it's not an everyday you know have to have a dessert type of thing. In our household, we buy ice cream probably maybe like once or twice a month.

Right. You know, so it's there and it's gone. Yeah. And then, you know, it's like we leave it, we let it stay gone for a while and then we buy it again.

Yeah. I think it should be, you know, but a treat doesn't become a treat when it's a habit, right? It's like you get a dessert all the time. And this is like, well,

what's fancy about this? Then it has to get get you have to get bigger and it has to get crazier and you know more shit on it so you know if you keep it kind of just you know narrowed down it's um what are we talking about like chocolate syrup oh sure caramel yeah yeah some whipped cream absolutely all of the above all all combined. Yeah. How old are your oldest now? They are 14. 14. Did you have any, like, at any time period, like, when they were growing up where, like, you had to actually, like, say, like, no, you can't eat what the other kids are eating or, like, they wanted, I don't know, like, cereal for dinner every night and you're just

like, hey, like, hold on, like, we need to change this. No. Again, we try never to, like, limit them and need to change this no um i've again tried never to like limit them and really kind of say no it's just that you know i realized very early on that you know they were going to kind of do what i did and you know i don't eat cereal we don't have cereal in the house um so they're not like hey where's the cereal or hey here where's this um you know they've they've asked about like cereal and like well cereal is you know cereal is okay what you know this person thinks cereal is is it's not like we eat you know eggs and bacon and you know like an english muffin for breakfast and that's kind

of what we do is like if you're hungry after you eat that you can have a small bowl of cereal but it's going to be it's going to be something else besides just straight sugar cereal is that yeah it's not going to really give you what you need where when you're having eggs let's just say the calories are the exact same let's say you use whole milk and you had a bowl of cereal and poop sorry oh he's grabbing some cereal if you had some oh whoops if you had had regular cereal, regular sugary cereal, and you had whole milk versus eggs and a, what did you say, an English muffin or something like that, and some bacon, even if the calories were equal, the eggs and the bacon and the bread would carry you through your day longer to where you'd be fuller for longer. And you're actually providing your body with protein. In the case of your children, they are very active and they're playing sports and stuff like that. So it's even helping them with recovery.

Whereas the cereal example is primarily sugar. You might be getting some protein from your milk, but that's not really anything substantial. Usually people are drinking fat free milk as well. So the sugar on there, the good stuff. Hey, but we weren't even planning to talk about this. I'm sorry.

Y'all started talking about cereal. Okay. You want to feed your kids some fucking cereal. That tastes like good. No. Yeah. Have they ever had this before? No,

it's, it's something that I always have like on my mind to grab and it just, I think we got some extra. Yeah. We got, you know, 14 grams of protein per serving, zero grams of sugar, four net carbs. Right. Exactly. Like, and it doesn't taste like crap.

Like it tastes like good cereal. Yeah. Right. So God damn. Yeah. I mean, if you have to, like, there are always options like that, you know what I mean? And if it's one of those things like that would be fine if they're like hey i'm gonna have some okay cool but if it's like

why aren't you buying me cinnamon toast crunch right yeah well because it's yeah it's it's terrible for you let's stop real quick what was your favorite cereal as a kid um either coco puffs or coco krispies coco krispies i don't think i've ever had coco krispies we got the coco right there that you can substitute it out for. Yeah. You turned out perfectly fine. Yeah. Yeah, totally.

And how about you? Your favorite cereal is? Man, I love so many of them. Fuck, man. Yeah, I like Cocoa Pebbles. Yes, Cocoa Pebbles. Cocoa Pebbles is the one. Cocoa Krispies is bullshit. I'm trying to think of my favorite. What is Cocoa Krisp, Fruity Pebbles. Yes, Cocoa Pebbles. Cocoa Pebbles is the one. Cocoa Crisp is bullshit.

I'm trying to think of my favorite. What is Cocoa Crisp? I like Lucky Charms. Lucky Charms gives you burps, though. What's the Count Chocula? Count Chocula? Yeah, with the little chocolate marshmallows in it. Yeah.

Wow. That shit was dope. Cinnamon Toast Crunch? Yes, Cinnamon Toast Crunch. Oops All Berries will turn your poop green. Yeah, that's a good one there. My thing was mixing cinnamon toast crunch and raisin bran crunch and then taking Nature Valley granola bars, breaking them up, and then mixing them in the cereal. That's an addiction.

But yeah, this stuff hits the spot. Pretty damn good. Yeah. But yeah, this stuff hits the spot. Pretty damn good. Yeah. I mean, there's always hacks like this that are out there, whether it's some sort of a bar or a cereal or even a drink. You know, the girls, the Fairlife things.

We have a refrigerator just stacked full of those. Would you like a Fairlife? Always. You guys might not know this, but Jesse Burdick invented Fairlife like 10 years ago. Oh, come on. You broke my life. Remember that? Remember thatesse burdick uh invented fair life like 10 years ago oh come on you broke my life remember that burdick we were talking about a fair life like product about 10 years ago yeah it's i mean clearly our phones were bugged they stole your shit but it's so good but it's amazing how long have we how long have we been doing the the coffee protein shake oh yeah yeah forever but sweet but and i mean then in sema does it with you know pumpkin spice latte and then all of a How long have we been doing the coffee protein shake? Oh, yeah, yeah. Forever. Sweet. But, I mean, then Nseema does it with, you know, pumpkin spice latte, and then all of a sudden he's a guru.

He's like, damn. His $11 cup of coffee. I don't do that anymore. I don't do that anymore. Hey, but real talk. One day on the podcast, we took out some of these, and we used that as the milk for the cereal. Remember we were talking about that, Andrew? 42 grams of protein. Yes, as the milk.

This guy's going to get jacked. He got 42. What does he got? 26. Oh, my gosh. And then that coffee one has 100 milligrams of caffeine in it. 30. That coffee one's my favorite.

Oh, this is an actual coffee one? Yes. Coffee, 100 milligrams of caffeine, bro. I'm about to blow your mind. Jeez. I'm already way too caffeinated all the time. Before we go any further, though, if you guys do want to take advantage and have actual cereal again that won't go against your macros, won't destroy your stomach, won't give you

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notes. Um, yeah, they're amazing. But that, that banana flavor right there on that core power. Wait, so Jesse,

it doesn't make sense. Real quick question. Have you ever had the strawberry banana fair life? okay so do this at some point he may have invented something else i didn't invent it they actually have a strawberry banana mix these two together just if you have you ever had banana on the phone no should i just like chug these right now no no camera is this what i want you to do is i definitely want you to just try try swish it around on left side and then swish the strawberry around the right side and then mix them together this is gonna be very difficult because i want you to experience the banana on its own because it's really good but then i want you to experience the strawberry mixed with vanilla so only drink

like maybe a third of this the banana at some point and then you know you can drink some of the strawberry and then mix them together because it's oh it's so good i had it yesterday i was wet the whole day i was sweeping so that's what all that moisture was all over the floor slushing around the office yeah i like wow this is like real specific instruction. I know. This is. You have to experience it, man. You got to do the banana first. Banana first. See how the banana one feels in your left hand versus your right hand before you try this. That's something like, then put your hands in the ice bucket.

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. So that way it changes up your grip strength. It's true. Do all that stuff. McCastle it. Yeah, McCastle that shit. By the way, guys, since we're live, if you haven't listened to them. Oh, no, go for it.

If you haven't listened to the Mike McCaskell podcast we had yesterday, you must go listen to it because that man punched us with some gems. It was amazing. How do you feel, Jesse? How is it? Good. Right. Yeah. It's like banana.

But not nasty banana because I was expecting that. But not nasty banana, because I was expecting that. Usually I'm not a fan of the banana flavored anything, especially the artificially flavored banana stuff. But this is totally palatable. Mark, you said you had a cup of coffee? What's that all about? No, I had a booze. Oh, booze.

I thought that's what it was. You know what, though? I still don't have complete smell and taste back, so I can't be the best judge of all this stuff, to be 100% honest with everybody. But to me, completely palatable. So he's just tasting cardboard. He's like, mmm, that's good. No, I can taste some of it, but I don't know if it's overpowering. I have no idea. Oh, okay.

But I mean, I could totally drink all that. No problem. Okay. Well, I just want to get you some more protein this morning because you need it. I do. You're not muscular at all. Thank you. I'm joking.

I'm joking. It's because you're so large. I made that joke. Oh, God. Now we're mixing drinks. Now pour them together. Pour them together. Pour them together.

Hopefully you get some of the flavor. It just explodes. What if it exploded? I thought you weren't supposed to mix light and dark. Doesn't that give you a hangover? Excuse me? Whoa. Whoa.

Whoa. Whoa. This isn't the 60s anymore, Andrew. Get the fuck out of here, man. It's not? No. Dude, I'm talking about alcohol. Oh.

Oh. Geez. For not wanting to get canceled, you want to cancel everybody. You just set it up so well. Okay. Mixing light and dark works pretty good. Like when you get a swirl. Yeah.

Those are fucking dope. Yeah. Soft serve swirl. Vanilla and chocolate. Best of both worlds. Yeah. Yeah. Right?

Yeah. Mm-hmm. Soft serve kills me. I can never eat that. You know what? You know what's a very sad fact is that not a lot of people have had real soft serve ice cream they've only had fucking soft serve fro-yo right that's my daughter to get some soft serve ice cream the other day and it blew her mind she like couldn't believe it she's

like what is this i was like it's ice cream it's a place uh behind uh buds and dixon this restaurant dixon and uh she was like this is so good she's like this is unbelievable because she's only had anytime she's ever had soft serve it's always been frozen yogurt i thought frozen yogurt was soft serve ice cream, usually. But ice cream at soft serve places used to be like soft serve used to be regular ice cream years ago when people didn't get all weird about calories. Calories. Look at how well that's worked out for us. Totally. Jesse has a pretty good, I guess i'll call it recipe for

mcflurry's when you order so if i mean mcflurry's are the best dessert of all time i mean anyone who wants to debate that can you know we can we can talk jesse burdick at gmail.com you're wrong but um over covid like we were just looking for stuff to do so we just drive around and um one of the times like oh you know what like let's go get a mcflurry and i'm pretty sure i melted the kids mind he was just like i was like you know uh four mcflurries it's like okay would you like the chocolate i don't even know what it was m&m and this and like there was like a caramel something or other i was like can you just put all of them in? I want all of them.

And he was just like, I always tell you the machine. I can't do that. Read all this stuff about that. Like there's a huge lawsuit. So apparently what's going on? We're going to divert here and show how much of a nerd that I am is the whole nerd. Yes, I have. Fat nerd. Fat nerd. Yes, I have ice cream facts.

McDonald's, the company that provides those machines, you can only get replacement parts from that company. And only those mechanics, and this is written into their contract with McDonald's, only those mechanics of the machine can come out and do these things. They have a very limited amount of all of that stuff. It went up to the Supreme Court. Not the Supreme Court. I think it was the State Supreme Court. This is how fat the United States is. People are worried about these machines always being

broken, and it's got to a point where they are investigating the relationship between McDonald's and this company, because they're trying to have like a symbiotic relationship of who's building what it's some, it's their technology that they're kind of using and all this other stuff. And people are upset because they're not getting there.

And they're willing to like sue. It's remarkable. It's going to be our most watched power, because I always thought that people were just lying about the machines. I just thought they didn't make, they cannot get them. They cannot get them serviced and fixed. And that's why.

And I mean, that's the ultimate parenting move ever is to just tell your kids. Shit's broken. Hey, where's my blah, blah, blah. You're like,

it's broken. That's what Jake used to do when he would try and pick things up. He's like, God, it's broken. Yeah. I tried to pick up a kettlebell and he like kicked it. He's like, it's broken.

We're like, yeah, that's a good move. Wait, pause. Wait, I thought you had a recipe for McFlurries though. Oh yeah, so you just order all of them. Oh. You want the Reese's Pieces, the M&M's and like the caramel something or other. And when I said that, the kid was like, I don't know if you can do that. He was like, hold on. I'll check with my manager. I was like, what? So the manager was like, I don't know if you can do that. He's like, hold on.

I'll check with my manager. I was like, what? So the manager is like, what do you want? I was like, can you just put all of the toppings into one McFlurry? And she's like, that's so smart. I was like, thank you. And she's like, yeah, we will definitely do that for you, sir.

And I was like, okay. And Katie is losing her shit over here. And the girls are like, what's daddy doing? It was like, he broke McDonald's girls. So I don't know if it's quite the,

you know, you know, it hasn't caught on. I don't know if it's a secret menu type of thing or if it's caught on, but you can do it. You're going to, you're going to blow people's minds. Next time you go through,

you say, I used to work here and not only can you do that, but you can blow people's minds. Next time you go through, you say, I used to work here. And not only can you do that, but you can also throw French fries in there. There you go. That would be so smart. Have you done that? No, I never have. But it sounds like a good idea. You've never dipped a fry into ice cream?

Oh, I have done that for you. Thank you. All right. I did that for the first time last year. I was pleasantly surprised. I just never knew. I mean, I've heard people do that. It's a pretty good combo.

It's really good. You guys know your stuff. What was that place we went to in Vegas, that burger place? The Heart Attack Grill? Oh, no. We went to some burger bar. Burger bar. Yeah, that was Hubert Keller's Burger Bar.

He has a couple of Michelin star restaurants. And it was like a $65 burger, right? Yeah. But it was worth every penny. It was wagyu beef topped with foie gras and black truffles. What's this place called? It's called Burger Bar. I don't know if it's still in Vegas anymore, but I think it might still be in San Francisco because he has Fleur and his other restaurant, but Burger Bar.

Fleur and his other restaurant, but burger bar. It's a, I tell everyone like, where should you go eat in Vegas? And there's so many places like, but go get the burger at burger bar. It's ridiculous. We ordered a shake from there.

And part of the cool thing about ordering a shake from there is the amount of different stuff you can add to, I think you can get like scoops of different ice cream and you can add just like this crazy amount of toppings. And, you know, I'm like picking toppings that I think like match. Like that's what you do.

And Jesse kind of does the same thing. And then Jesse's wife, Katie, she is like, I'll just take all these. And I was like, those don't even go together. I'm like, that's going to be disgusting. You know, because sometimes it's like, you know, they don't blend together well. They don't like match up well. You know, like they cancel each other out at a certain point. she gets her uh drink and it was way better than mine and burke she knew what she was doing no one clears a plate quite like katie i always make i always make fun

of her but dude when you eat with this girl and you look at her plate fucking everything's gone it's spotless you're like what the hell did you lick the plate what's going on over there she does she does even at home same thing how's her training going and stuff mine her training her training i don't care about your training it's good you know it's challenging just trying to fit it in when and where we can right with b but she you know she'll get into the garage or trying to do something you know like three to five times a week just trying to do do stuff. So just coming back from pregnancy, you know, was, was difficult, but, uh, you know, she's still out there still, still doing her stuff.

She still looked, she looked great. She's recovered pretty much, you know, from everything. So, um, you know, if she had more time, she would obviously, you know, do a little bit more. So, and what about for you? Uh, you've had a hip surgery and stuff like that. Yeah. Yeah.

I had the total hip done. Um, it, it's been kind of hip replacement right yeah total replacement on my right hip um it's been kind of fits and starts just with timing and everything with the you know with covet and the kids and you know just trying to get the you know losing 60 of your business and all these other things so you know it's been you know up and down but you know i'm back in moving around, doing some stuff, trying to work out like five times a week or so. I bought a sauna, which has been really, really huge for just like recovery and everything. What company was it like?

Is there a specific company thinks really good? I think there's a couple, but I'm cheap. So I went on Craigslist. Okay. And I found a what is the company? I don't remember which company it was, but it's a far infrared sauna. And it was spec'd for outdoor. It came like these people took great care of it.

It was like this old couple that had it and never used it. It was, they put like a paint or a lacquer on it. So it was waterproof and they had a tarp for it and all this other stuff. And I was able to put a red light in there. So I have some red light therapy and stuff in there. But they were like, it was a two person sauna. It retailed for like six thousand dollars. They were selling it for twenty five hundred.

I offered I was like, I'll give you two thousand dollars cash and I'll pick it up, you know, in 20 minutes. And they're like, OK, cool. So, you know, so I went and grabbed it. And it's hilarious that they're like, Oh, okay, cool. So, you know, so I went and grabbed it and it's hilarious that the, they're like not made of anything. It's a, it's like latches and stuff to like kind of put the thing together, but it's really been amazing, you know, just trying to take advantage of some of the heat shock protein after, um, working out and just kind of, it's been really cool to us to have that at like

the end of the day where it's just, it's quiet, it's dark, you know, I'll either listen to a book or just kind of sit there and try and, you know, meditate, stretch. I have like, you know,

cups and scrapes and everything in, in, in the sauna, just to kind of sit there and just try and, you know, take 20 minutes out of the day. Um, and you know,

Katie started to, to do that as well. Um, what really spurred me on for that was seeing yours and being super jealous. And then also just, you know, the, the study,

I think it's the Swedish study. That's like, you know, three to five times of 20 minutes plus, you know, all cause mortality rate down by like 60% or something. So it's just like, holy shit.

And then you, you pair that with the walking like, man, I'm gonna live for fucking ever. It does some silly, it does some, it does some like just silly stuff. Like, I mean i mean number one it makes you sweat which it's like that's beneficial for everybody yes number two it just helps you to burn calories yeah which is

pretty cool uh the third thing that it does which i like is just you're a little uncomfortable in there right you have to kind of figure out a way to calm yourself down and i know there's like a lot of science and research on like all these other benefits, but for me personally, just some of those benefits right there alone are like enough. Um, normally when I come home from the gym, uh, you know, normally I already got 10 miles or 12 miles of like walking slash running. And I got lifting in, I did all my podcasting. I did all the bullshit that I'm supposed to do for the day. And now it's kind of time to just kind of kick it with the family. And so usually right when I get home, I usually put my sauna on.

I'll cook something for myself. I'll sit down. I'll eat for a minute. Then I'll get in the sauna. Then I'll take a shower. And then the rest of the day is just with my family, with my wife and kids, eating dinner, just chilling. rest of the day is just with my family, my wife and kids eating dinner, just chilling. But like that gets me so relaxed to go into the sauna and then take a shower. Just feels absolutely ridiculous.

You feel so calm and your skin just feels super clean. It's like you put yourself through like a car wash or something. It feels amazing. It is. And it's yeah, there's so many health benefits, but I think it's almost like, just like anything else, like you're forcing yourself to take 20 minutes out of your day and specifically not doing it. What are you doing in the sauna? You're sitting down and being quiet and kind of getting in touch with what's going on and,

you know, trying to plan for something, whatever. There's very little stress. It can be, you know, it, it will get difficult once you get, you know, that last like 10 minutes when it's 150 degrees. You're like, fuck. But it's, you know, again, it's something challenging and it's, you know, something just for you. You know, I mean, you in a sauna is not going to, you know, necessarily one for one benefit everybody else. But, you know, it's it'll make you a better mark for, you know, for the wife and the kids. So I think it's, you know, whether it's, you know, meditation or sauna or whatever it is, you know, it's, it's so important to have

something like that because there's just so many stressors out there. And just to be able to kind of decompress a little bit, it's just, it's so important. I have a quick question. Um, so how heavy were you at your heaviest for powerlifting? Three 35. Oh, y'all were twins. Three 3335. Hey guys, have you ever been working out and you found that you got like a calf cramp or a hamstring cramp or a quad cramp or a bicep cramp? Unnecessary. You're probably dehydrated. And it's not just water you're missing.

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cool seeing how both your bodies changed over time what do you think of some of the biggest like i guess kind of habits that you do right now um you mentioned walking like what would you say are some just big things that people just should start doing lifestyle wise uh in general or for power lifters or for not in general that just made a big difference for you personally yeah um Yeah, just being aware of kind of what you're eating, trying not to eat out a lot. I think it's becoming harder and harder because restaurants are becoming few and further in between. Learning how to cook was huge. Understanding that you really shouldn't go unless you're doing some sort of fasting technique, you know, like three hours without having a little bit of something, your meals don't have to be gigantic. You don't necessarily eat, need to eat until you fall asleep, which is something that, you know,

we had to do in order to, you know, in order to get that big, um, you know, learning how to cook, um, learning how to shop the walking has been you know like super super simple stuff like that and kind of starting the day off with um i'm a big fan of anybody that i work with and someone that i just started working with has had a huge success with this was like look just just get up start your first your first meal off just you know bacon and eggs don't have any carbohydrate you know try and wait as long as it can almost like a yeah we've been pushing that carbonate i don't know how long yeah and i mean it just kind of sets you up for he's like this is crazy that when i have just bacon and eggs i don't crave you know sugar and all the other shit as i go kind of throughout the day and that's been able to cut this guy's

carbohydrates from like 2,000 to like 500 right and i mean it's just made a huge huge difference in inflammation. His knees don't hurt his elbows and, you know, the, the standard litany of kind of things, but something like that is, is very, very small. And I mean, it can be huge. And I mean, just, just the walks, you know, it's everybody. I mean, most people, I had a client yesterday tell me, he's like, man, I really got to get on those 10 minute walks because I got a, uh, an Apple watch and I've never heard. He was just like there, you know, I averaged a thousand steps a day last week. It's like, what?

I was like, how do you only move a thousand? Yeah. He was just like, yeah. It's like, that's horrible. That's horrible. I was like, that is not i can't even like i can't even like sugarcoat this for you that's fucking terrible even when you were a power lifter at your heaviest were you still walking a lot yeah it was well i mean i had the

kids and we were moving around and i was a coach yeah so i was moving a lot but um i couldn't believe and i mean this is a skinny guy too and i'm like yes this is amazing about what happens to people you know in the hospital when they're laid up for a while, you know, you start to atrophy and that's going to happen to, to many of us if we're not moving. Right. You need some sort of movement every day. And I really strongly encourage anyone just if you have an opportunity to look at some sort of tracker, I don't know if everyone knows, but like your Apple phone, there's a little thing that has a heart on it and you can see your steps right there. So I would encourage anybody to work on trying to increase that by about 5,000 steps a day. Like what's the norm for you? Just kind of look at that and just say, Hey, it doesn't have to be tomorrow that you do it, but just over

time, I want to increase that by 5,000 steps. Now, if you have anything that hinders you from doing that, then you've got to be more cautious and you might want to think, all right, well, maybe I got to do a recumbent bike or maybe I have to swim or have to do something different. Cause there's people with like feet problems and knee problems and all kinds of other things. So you don't want to make those things worse. That's the worst thing you can do. But, um, you've been talking about walking forever. I mean, you're the one that kind of kicked me off with walking. And that was probably, I want to say probably almost like 12 years ago. Yeah.

And you were like, you know, you told me I'd like to start walking. I'm like, that's like old people exercise. What are you talking about? You're like, it's the perfect fat guy thing ever because it just burns a little bit of calories. You're like, just walk around your block. And I remember literally just walking around my block. And then once I did that a couple of times, you were like, we'll put on like, you know, but I think I lost a little bit of weight and maybe lost like 20 pounds. And you're like, put on a vest or put on a backpack that weighs five, 10 pounds. And I was like, five or 10 pounds, I can do shit. But you're like, again, that's going to burn more calories. We got to go

over this again, smelly, you know, you encourage me to do that. I started doing that. And then after a while, I started walking around with like 11 pound weight vest, but it looked like a bulletproof jacket. So I kind of stopped doing that after a while, but it was effective. It worked great. Yeah. It's, I mean, you know, we can complicate things as much as you want to.

And, you know, I mean, there's a lot of people out there who, like me, who have the ability to make things as complicated as you want. But, I mean, in all reality, it's really simple. You know, everybody's got 10 minutes to go out there and, you know, just take a walk. And that's all that it really takes. And it's just going to have a compounding factor. If you're outside, get a little bit of sun, breathe some fresh air or whatever, depending on, you know, how bad fires are and where you are in the world. Um, it just has a compounding effect on just your, just mood, psychologically, you know, mentally, and it just kind of keeps further moving things along.

And when I was talking to you about that, that was just based off of like, just general GPP, um, aerobic cardio. And it was just like basically plugged in your, well, I plug, you know, I did all this again, complicating things for you. cardio it was just like basically plugged in your well i plug you know i did all this again complicating things for you and it was just like i took your resting heart rate and you know did the carbonian formula and i was like okay we need to keep you somewhere between 120 and 140 and you know for for this and anything else we need you know 20 minutes of you know under you know we don't want to get you to uh anywhere over 120 and uh it it started to take you, that's when you become more fit, right? Is this like, then you have to add either a work harder by going faster or adding weight or walking up

a hill or something along those lines. So it can be very, very easy. And, you know, to kind of your question, your point, you know, for someone looking to make a change, it can be, it's one meal and one 10 minute walk a day. And then it's just going to keep compounding because you're going to feel better and then you're going to want more. And then, you know, and then the buffet of fitness is kind of opened up to you. So, you know, it's, uh, it's fun to complicate things and it's neat to, you know, know a lot of stuff, but I mean, it's, it's really kind of comical, you know, that, you know, I, I get to use like 1% of

the stuff that I, that I know, but it's, you know, it's a hundred percent effective, which is, which is great, which is all that really matters. You know, when we come down to it and don't complicate taking walks too. Like if you have to take a phone, yeah. If you have to take a fucking phone call, just go outside, walk with like with whatever headphones on and take that phone call. Because a lot of people are like, oh, but I work 9 to 5. Okay, then stand at your desk, and if you can, just randomly go and walk around the office or something.

Just get more steps in. I mean, Tiny Tiff, when she was doing Steptober? September. September. September, sorry. Walktober. She would just, yeah, whatever it was, she would just walk in a circle when she was watching like a football games. And she would just sit there and just walk in circles.

Cause she was trying to get them, get her steps in and stuff. So it's just like, it can be that easy. You don't have to even go outside if you don't want to, you know, if you're scared to go outside, just walk in your house.

Yeah. It doesn't have to be anything difficult. And for me, sometimes even just planning a day or setting something up, I'll just go into my notes on my phone and I'll hit record and I'll record just me talking about like the week, like, oh, this week I have, uh, you know, Ben Patrick's and because, or this month I got Ben Patrick coming in at the end of the month. Don't forget to call Jesse, talk to him, let's work on setting things up. And I'll just leave myself some notes uh then i look down at my

time or my steps and i already walked 10 15 minutes make a couple phone calls yeah um you know just whatever you got to do to make the time go by listen to podcasts listen to books um it's a place to educate yourself too yeah and there's nothing better than uh there's nothing better than also like being in nature and being in some elements that are just different than our day-to-day of like the hustle of being inside buildings and having artificial light on us all day long. You're outside. You got the sun. There's trees. There's other things around.

Maybe you can find some interesting places to walk where there's like some decent scenery. Yeah. That will make it a little easier. And for me, I try to walk in there's like some decent scenery. Yeah. That will, uh, make it a little easier. And for me, I try to walk in a lot of different spots. I sometimes I'm in the woods, uh, not like woods, woods, but like on a trail cause I don't want to get lost. But, uh, then I'll, or I'll be like, um, you know, downtown Davis or something, or just a downtown area where there's people. Cause when there's people, it gives me more energy. So on a day where I feel a little bit more tired, don't feel like doing something, I'm like, if I see other people moving, that's going to encourage me to want to move.

And sometimes I'm walking and literally like old people will pass by me. And I'm like, oh, fuck. I'm like, that lady was probably like in her 70s. That's not good. I need to speed up. Like, hey, Gertrude, slow down. Gertrude. Gertie.

That's a name you're not going to hear much more. I'm just really wondering if somebody did name their child Gertrude, what is going through their head? You're Gertrude. That's got to be like a family name. I want to name you after grandma or great grandma. Or what does everybody name anything that's like way, like very big in size? It's like, oh, that's, you know, big Bertha. So like if anybody is like Bertha, like that's the name. Like like oh that's you know big bertha like so like if anybody is like

bertha like that's the name like oh i don't know that's a bad one you know but there's also there's a um god i don't uh i think her name is uh callie or no it's maddie nichols she's a softball player for ucla but there's so many girls named maddie that, um, and I only know she's a softball player and we call Sophia Bubba, but his dad started to call her Bubba to differentiate her from all the other Maddie's and she took the name. Nice. And I mean, and she is this gorgeous, like unbelievably talented, athletic girl. And you're like,

what's your name? She's like, my name is Bubba Nichols. And you're like, that's sick. Like, where the fuck are you from? It's like Bubba Nichols.

And she's, she's a stud. She's a stud. She's awesome. And I mean, so yeah, there will be someone special who like says like, what's your name?

My name is big Bertha. Like, damn girl yeah look at you own that there's there's a there's a few people out there who will be able to pull that off and gertrude you'd be like damn you are gertrude check you out oh wow i dig it i dig it you know uh we were talking a little bit about diet you were mentioning not eating much carbohydrate uh first thing in the morning um you and I were playing around with very low-carbohydrate diets many years ago, and we sort of, like, were, like, too stupid to, like, formulate anything into meaning anything

to become popular in the general public. But I think of, like, Mark Sisson talking about like metabolic flexibility and kind of like eating two meals a day. And I'm just kind of looking at that stuff. I'm like, man, that sounds like really not, not that any of the information was ever taken from us,

but we stumbled upon a lot of ideas that were very similar years and years ago, just by eating like large amounts of fat, decent amounts of protein. We kind of ended up with two meals a day. We ended up stumbling upon metabolic flexibility because as you got me to get in better shape, you're like, oh, you can add some carbs in now. And I was like, but that's, I thought we were doing like more like keto stuff. And you were like, well, if it's around your workout, it's not going to be a big deal before or after the

training session. You know, you're going to be able to suck up some of those carbohydrates. It's not going to be a big deal. And I would even check for ketones here and there, and I would be eating like 100 grams of carbs, and I would still be in, quote, unquote, ketosis. But more importantly than worrying about the ketones or ketosis, I was still able to make progress and still able to lose weight. So it was just interesting that we were stumbling upon a lot of those things, um, many, many years ago. It, you know, it, I think it speaks to a, just, uh, just being curious and, you know, being like,

I mean, that's science it's, you know, fuck around and find out. Right. And I mean, that's, we had a, you know, thought processes of like, well, Hey, this works, but, you know, we're getting to a point where at that point you're, you're almost losing muscle. You're losing strength. And this is when you're still trying to lift and you're starting to kind of get banged up. And it's like, okay, cool. We got to hydrate those muscles a little bit better. There's a way to do this. What would be the best way? It's always, you know, pre para and post, I think, you know, para didn't even exist as a, as a word or a term back then.

And, you know, it was just like, well, let's see how this happens. Let's see how this goes. And, you know, I remember you being really trepidatious and scared about it. And it was just like, I don't, I just don't want to go that way. I was like, well, as long as you keep it around your workout, you'd be all right. And, you know, it's successful. And I mean, you know, it's, and then it's just finding out. And that's the, that's the true thing about all the diets we can talk about – we can throw the book at anybody that we want. It's about what's going to be sustainable and usable for you and what's going to work for you.

Not necessarily – most of it's going to work for everybody. But some of it's really not going to work for some people too. So they have to find out what's the best for them. And I mean they can be as nerdy as they want or they can just be like, Hey, yeah, I ate some pasta. I feel like shit. I was like, well, probably shouldn't eat pasta anymore then because your body just doesn't like it. Like, Oh, I feel great off of a sweet potato and rice. I'm like, Oh, there you go. So just use that. So, um, I think people discount, you know, how they feel or they just turn off or don't pay attention to how they feel. I think everyone thinks explosive diarrhea is normal for everybody else.

It's like, oh, well, everyone's got terrible diarrhea all the time. I'm like, well, they shouldn't, but most people probably do. I think there's an aspect of you can adapt to anything. Because I remember in the past when I played a lot of soccer and even when I was focused on bodybuilding, I'd be eating four or five meals a day. I'd be eating a lot of carbohydrates. I'd be eating sweet potato, rice, et cetera. I'd feel fun. Wouldn't feel tired or anything. Um, but when I transitioned to eating more fats initially, it didn't feel good. Right. It felt great. Now, when I try to eat the way I used to eat, I'm like, I'm kind of tired. Like, it's like, like I just have to adapt to that again. You know what I mean? So you can adapt to any type of diet that you do if you do it long enough.

Right. You know? Absolutely. But it's just figuring out which one's better for you. And I think that's my favorite story of adapting to, you know, it was the Dave Tate story when he started working with John Brardy. Do you remember this? He was just like, it was like, you know, John had him eating the precision nutrition stuff. Oh, yeah.

He got like sick when he, he was eating, he was being sick for two, like horribly sick. And then Wendler, I mean, this was when they were big. He was just like, fuck it. Just eat a bunch of, just eat a box of pop tarts, ate a box of pop tarts and felt, felt just amazing. And he was like, and he called John. He was like, I don't know what's going on. Your diet's making me sick.

Pop tarts make me feel awesome. So he ended up having to go. He ended up getting a bunch of tests done. And they found out, like, wow, your intestines are just, like, riddled with plaque and with all this. So he ended up having to do, like, an enema and these cleanses in order to kind of just, like, allow. He couldn't, like, break down. down like i think it was the fiber was pulling this like plaque and all this just like gunk with it and therefore kind of like um he was detoxifying basically detoxifying all this stuff that's just been sitting in his system forever and that was just causing him just to be horribly sick

and eventually ended up having to like healthily detox and get all this stuff out of him before he could even eat healthy and this is when he was when he was eating McDonald's two to three times a day. And anytime he hit a PR, he would eat a, um, a pint of ice cream, uh, afterwards. We were joking around earlier about like cereal, but like cereal is like one of the most like stable foods. Like it, it doesn't really bother. I mean, sometimes the lactose maybe from the milk might bother some people, but in general, Sometimes the lactose maybe from the milk might bother some people, but in general, it's like cereal is usually pretty easy on people's stomachs. And then even foods that you wouldn't really think would be like easy to like, quote unquote, digest chips, like grilled cheese sandwiches, like shit like that. Like for some reason, because it's like processed, it doesn't have like a lot of fiber to it. So it's not like eating like if you eat like a bunch of cashews or macadamia nuts and or

eat a lot of fruit and vegetables like those things can be really tough for people to break down, especially if you're not used to them. When your digestive system is not used to breaking down broccoli, you're going to run into some trouble. Probably you should feel suspect because, you know, when you when you told me like your daughters would eat some corn dogs and they'd come back and be like, oh, my God. Right. You should be suspect.

If you eat a hell of corn dogs, you're like, I feel great. That might not be a good thing. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. It's your body is not necessarily supposed to feel awesome off of that. And if you are, that means you've just adapted to, you know, your environment, what you're doing. And is this where you want to go? What you want to be? I mean, in all reality, the answer is no, but for some people, corn dogs is

life. You, uh, I think do a great job of identifying, uh, like what will work for somebody kind of ahead of time. Once you talk to somebody for a little while, I've noticed that you have, uh, a keen eye to kind of notice like, oh, I don't think like that traditional way is going to work for that person. For example, maybe somebody is coming from a diet where they were counting calories and they say, you know, counting calories didn't work for me. And it's not necessary that counting calories doesn't work. It's the fact that it was hard for them to adhere to. Maybe they had too many options in their diet. Right. And now instead of having a narrative of like what someone can, can't do, you'll give suggestion and you'll say, hey, tomorrow when you wake up, you know, have your cup of coffee like

you normally do, scramble up some eggs, throw some cheese on there, throw some bacon in there, have a big old omelet and start your day off that way. And you'll make recommendations that seem to fit better. Because we know, like, I hear people oftentimes that say, like, cookie cutter programs don't work. But I also heard you mention earlier, which I think is very smart and intuitive, is that all the diets will work. If we're to trap people in like a military type environment and we're to say you are going to perform like these Navy SEALs and you're going to be fed like these Navy SEALs. Anyone that can make it through that, everyone's probably going to lose some weight, especially if they don't have previous training, especially if they don't have any history of like eating this way. You get like, you know, you go to the chow hall and you get like two scoops of mush or whatever the hell it is they're trying to feed you for the day.

The fat guys get less food. The skinnier guys get more food. And it does actually work for everybody. The problem is, is you need to find stuff that like fits you well, that suits you, that fits your day to day. You don't want to be doing shit that you don't like doing. And if you're trying to utilize like a low carb diet, but you hate eating fat, you just ran into a huge barrier. You're not going to be able to really follow that.

You're going to feel disgusting all the time. Right. But I also think people, you know, fat is always a demonized word. Like I've had a number of conversations like, oh, yeah, no, just me and fat. We just don't work. I was like oh okay cool like well you know what do you think you could what would you like to eat besides like a carbohydrate what could help kind of i was like well you know i really like cheese and sour cream

and i'm like like okay and they'll go on and on and i'm just like i'm not gonna tell you that you are actually eating a lot of fat um but let's just remove some of the carbohydrates because in you know a normal person you know that's the biggest deal is they're eating a lot of fat. But let's just remove some of the carbohydrates because in, you know, a normal person, you know, that's the biggest deal is they're eating way too much fat. Their calories are just way too high. So we just by removing a little bit of carbohydrates and kind of fluctuating those fats, it can kind of make a big difference. But just like Stan always says, you know, it's, you know, eat foods that like you and,

you know, the diet's the one that you can kind of work with. And it's, it's just about listening to someone and someone starts talking. And, you know, again, someone that I was working with who was like, you know, Subway is across the street from where I work. I eat Subway for lunch. It's like, all right, cool. Well, hey, let's just make a better decision. It's like you can go in, right? Yeah.

How about a salad? I fucking hate salads. It's like, okay, how about we get the wrap thingy and double meat? Like, oh, yeah, I can do that. And that all of a sudden, you know, brings down just overall carbohydrates, ups protein intake. Two weeks later, he's down 10 pounds and he thinks I'm a fucking wizard. And it's just like, look, you know, you can always say no bread is the, you know, the flying Dutchman. They're they're everywhere.

Now you can get them anywhere and everywhere. You know, you don't have to get rice at Chipotle. You can just get the vegetables. There's always ways to do it and i think people forget that they are the customer and they're right and they can choose what they end up wanting to kind of get on or with things and when you're like dude you could just say like no rice and like shit or like light rice or only have a scoop rice like they'll listen to you they'll do what you want. Just kind of empowering people to even just start to kind of have those thoughts. And the Subway guy comes back and he's just like, hey, man, you know, I eat at Starbucks a lot in the morning. What should I eat there?

It's like, how about those egg white sous vide bites? He's like, yeah, that's what I was thinking. I just wanted to, you know, yeah, yeah, no, that's cool. That's cool. What about, you know, the wrap instead of the salmon? It's like, there you go, man. Awesome. That's cool.

It's like eventually we're going to like get you not eating at other places. But hey, you're making better decisions where you are. And that's the important thing. And you're accidentally tripping and falling into some more vegetables and, you know, protein leveraging. Great. Here we go. And then amazing things that it ends up falling into people's habits just because like, you

know, even myself back in the day, uh, I would crave carbohydrates hardcore. But once I started making that transition, eating more fats, eating more protein, well now I don't eat nearly as much as I used to because I don't crave that amount of food that I used to. It's like, it's just lowering those carbohydrates makes it much easier to stick to stick to the diet. Yeah. Jesse, what is a, like a lot of scar tissue due to somebody? Like if you have a lot of scar tissue, say like in your hip, like what is, what's the reason why you would like to get rid of something like that? Um, well, it's just basically the scar tissue is actually stronger than a tissue tendon ligament. Um, and if you have a decent amount of scar tissue, however,

it kind of gets there, whether it's an adhesion or some sort of a tear or something that isn't healed and it doesn't heal. It'll it'll kind of just it just sticks everything together. You know, Kelly always talks about, you know, your your hips are a grilled cheese sandwich and then they're just kind of smashed together and then smashed together again. And it makes the sliding surface of your muscles kind of impossible. Your muscles are basically just stakes layered on top of each other that you're trying to move in different ways from different spots. And anything that impedes that proper movement and full range of movements is going to make your body, therefore, kind of move differently. So if your hip isn't working, it's going to shift one way or the other. And you're going to shift all your weight to this way, which is therefore going to kind of turn your hips, rotate your ribs, bend over your spine, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera.

So it can just negatively influence movement in a negative way. So in order – and really it's kind of hard to have scar tissue or some sort of adhesion. It's just mostly just like tight musculature more than anything. kind of hard to, you know, have scar tissue or, you know, some sort of an adhesion, which is mostly just like tight musculature more than anything. And, you know, someone who is just doesn't experience a fully flexed or stretched muscle makes like just basic moves farther. Yeah, absolutely. And these things are usually formed from like a trauma or stress.

So, yeah, it's either trauma or stress or just repetitive movement. You know, it's a, if you're sitting down all day, you're going to mimic the fact this way because even sitting like this and you try and stand up, you're going to be like this unless you stretch out your quads,

stretch out your head flexors, turn on your, turn on your ass, stand yourself up a little bit. You know, those are just, you're going to, you know, your body is an amazing adaptative machine. We've already talked about this, you're going to, you know, your body is an amazing adaptative machine. We've already talked about this, right?

And it's going to do whatever it is that you do the most often because that's homeostasis for it. And it's going to try to get back to homeostasis all the time. So if you're sitting down, you're going to look like you're sitting down a lot, even when you're standing up. Unless you really work on kind of standing up, either standing up more often or making sure when you do after you do sit down you do stand up move around like when i drove here this morning the

first thing i did i was like i gotta get out and took like a took the 10 minute walk real quick undo the sitting i was like oh my god it feels so much better yeah and um i think it's been like 10 years since uh do you remember when we were at san francisco and kelly was just like oh yeah sitting's the new smoking we're like oh dude i don't i don't think that's a good term i heard someone like casually say that the other day i was just amazed it's taken 10 years for it to become like you know general thought processes and or he's big enough to where it's kind of you know become lexicon for everyone but it was just just like, I remember initially you're like, you can't fucking say that to you. That's not okay.

Like lung cancer and, you know, some fat ass sitting on a computer. It's not necessarily the same thing, but yeah, you just got to get up and, you know, try to move around and try and express a good, you know, a good posture one way or the other. I think what happens to a lot of people is they have like almost like dietary scar tissue and not not necessarily the tissues are getting compromised because your food. That's obviously debatable. That's not what I'm talking about. But I know that once you start asking people a couple of questions about their food, you say, well, why do you eat that way? And they say, well, it's a convenience on my way home from work.

You know, that's why I stopped at McDonald's. Convenience on my way home from work. You know, that's why I stopped at McDonald's. But you pointed out, which I think is really brilliant, is that a lot of times there's a trauma or there's a scar from someone's life somewhere along the lines. They ended up with divorce. They ended up they end up with some sort of tragedy in their life or some sort of thing that got interpreted in a bad way. It got them into a funk. thing that got interpreted in a bad way. It got them into a funk. And now all of a sudden, because they hurt their ankle a couple of years ago playing college basketball or playing a pickup game of basketball, they gained 60 pounds. And then you and I are kind of like, well,

you didn't gain 60 pounds because of the ankle. Like what's actually really going on? What have you found when you start to pull back those layers? What's actually going on underneath for a lot of people? It can vary like so much stuff. And I mean, it's just, you know, it basically comes down to just mental health in general. You know, how do you handle stress? How do you handle setbacks? You know, how and, you know, have you been equipped via, you know, nature, nurture, how to how to deal with these things?

You know, did your parents teach you how to eat, how to recover, how to do these things? And, you know, when you really start talking about it, you know, it's like we have Katie and I have a client who takes his kids to Starbucks like all the time. And he's a he's a he's a big CEO guy. I was like, look, man, it's like, you're teaching your kids. Like this is daddy time.

Like this is our time together. And it's sugary and it's sweet and it's a treat and it's special. And that's cool. But do you really want to tie that all in? Because what happens when they go to college and they're missing you? Or what if something really bad happens and you're not around anymore for them and they're going to miss you and all this other stuff? They lean on that for comfort. And then it just goes down this hill if they're not taking care of their own mental health via their own or talking to someone or something along those lines.

And it can get really, really, really bad. I've, I've dealt with people who have had to stop working with and say, Hey, I think you need to go and talk to someone and deal with some of your food stuff because there's clearly some underlying issues here. You know, this is what mama used to make and this made me feel good and this is all she did. Or this is how she is. You know, I won't, I won't go too much into it. It was like, you know, this is how she would apologize after you kick my ass.

I'm like, fuck. Right. Okay. So yeah. Macaroni and cheese and hot dogs. And now you feel like an asshole for trying to explain macronutrients to him. You're like, Oh, I'm so sorry that I was just trying to tell you to count calories. I'm a fucking asshole. And that's why when I do start to work with someone, I was like, Hey, what are your non starters? You know, like, what is it like, like even if even if someone is like in deathly need of losing 120 pounds like what are your non-starters it's like my coffee don't fuck with my coffee you can have everything else cool okay then we have a lot to work with you know or i need macaroni and cheese and hot dogs at least twice a week because that makes me feel good and And it makes me what I got to have a drink on the weekend or something.

Cool. OK, cool. There's so much else to kind of work with. Right. And I try not to. I've, you know, I've touched the stove enough to figure out that when I find those non starters and, you know, you just kind of ask them, like, I don't even want to fucking deal with this shit because I can make so much progress over here. want to fucking deal with this shit because I can make so much progress over here. Eventually, we should probably deal with the whole macaroni and cheese and hot dogs or coffee thing or whatever it is that we're kind of dealing with. But we can make a lot of progress to get there and maybe

you'll trip and fall into helping yourself there. But I mean, there's a lot of psychological mental stuff that kind of goes on, you know, and you think back to sitting on the couch and, you know, that's like, you know, you you always talk about it, that, you know, it's time to, that's what's most important with your kids. That's how, that's, what's worth all the stuff. That's what parenting is all about. And I think a lot of people, you know, sitting there and watching whatever and eating whatever is, you know, was, is time with mom or dad or whatever it was.

And when they either don't have that, or maybe that's not good or they lean on it mentally, that's kind of where people kind of lean back towards. And we can argue it doesn't necessarily have to be unhealthy, but oftentimes it ends up being – you're going to have to deal with it one way or the other. There's a lot of holdups mentally with food. This is really important because I had to talk with a friend the other like it was actually a while ago but he was talking about trying to change some of his eating habits and he's like he mentioned that he keeps a certain cereal and like some things in the house he's like but i keep it in there because you know my kid likes to eat it i'm like hey but think about that man i mean okay you don't want to be eating this stuff because you're trying to get in shape yeah that's your kid though why would you why would you want your

kid eating that because you're like that's not that you. That's your kid though. Why would you, why would you want your kid eating that? Because you're like, that's not that you don't want your kid. Where did that cereal get you? Cause you're going to, it's going to get him there too. It's going to be the same thing. Exactly. And I mean,

just it, it's a, it's a really sad to the whole family where everyone's heavy. Yeah. And a lot of times it's well-meaning people that love their kids. Yes. Uh, they're,

you know, we could sit here and judge parenting, you know, and we could be judged easily and fried and persecuted for not doing things the correct way all the time. But you see that and you're like, man, this is a smart, well-meaning family. Like no one's trying to hurt their children in these cases. Right. It really is hurtful. You're really starting them off kind of just in a bad spot. They could be pre-diabetic.

They could have health problems. They could have social problems just because they're a little heavier than everybody else. And it's just it's a shitty situation. And I mean, I wish there was I wish there was an easy way because I think we would all be kind of pointing at it. But, you know, the girls are in high school now and they're taking health and, um, they're in their diet unit. And I mean, I, I want to throw things when they come home and tell me they, they go off this site called, um, food grades.com or something along those lines. And Katie started to look at it and it's just a random guy who's going off of research that he's done. He has no degrees no certifications. No anything's

Anything whole wheat is a or you know more steak is a C minus and a D Anything protein is like a B and below sugar anything is a B and above So it's things like that where I mean the girls come home come home and they're like, what do I do here? I have a test on this stuff. And it's like, hey, look, get the questions right so you can get an A so we can move on. But this just isn't this is not a real thing for everybody else. And look, I think the guy's trying. We have so many problems going on right now.

Like I said, no one's trying to hurt anybody. This is a substitute teacher who is a math teacher who is now being asked to teach health to high school kids. So, I mean, now you're going to get to the birds and the bees and a little bit of physiology and shit. And I mean, it's not a super comfortable place to be. Now you're talking diet again, not necessarily super. And he's trying his best. But it's just like, man, it is. It is so fucking broken.

No one. You know, the girls loved home back in middle school and, uh, they, and they like to cook. They see me cooking. They see Katie cooking. But I mean, there are people who still to this day, and we know people like they don't know how to cook anything, nothing. They don't even know how to grill, which is like put a piece of meat on some fire and

turn it after five minutes and you have a steak. It's pretty, pretty easy. Or air fry that shit. Or air fry that shit. So, I mean, you know, from top to bottom, it's so, it is very, very broken. And I wish there was an easy way. And I want to say education, parenting, whatever. But, I mean, that's super complicated to start with.

But, I mean, it's rampant everywhere. You spend so much time eating, you know, you would figure that it would be one of the most important things to try to teach in your home is to, and I've been fortunate enough to just know about it since the time I was young. And I just think other people, unfortunately, they don't really know what to do. Maybe they're really not thinking, you know. No, no blame towards anyone. I mean, they just may not know. And why are you doing this? Cause this is what I've always done. Right. I'm like, okay, well maybe it's time to change because of that. But I mean, you know, a lot of people are, may not be willing to have

that conversation. And imagine that conversation, maybe instead of the trip to Starbucks or McDonald's, which might be fun. Imagine if like, Hey, your job is to scramble the eggs. I'm going to grab the cheese from the fridge. We've got the pan going, Hey, so-and-so chuck some butter in the pan, you know, and then they watch how you make it and they get to be part of it. And I know it might sound a little dorky or whatever, but that's an actual really awesome usage of your time. And again, like we're parents, we understand we, yes, of course, you're going to rush through McDonald's every once in a while.

Of course, you're going to go through Starbucks here and there. But when you have the opportunity to teach, when there's an opportunity for education, which I think you've run into these situations where your kid uses an the dishes out and slam them on the ground. Or we can take this opportunity as a really awesome time for some education. We can sit around and we can start to talk about these things. The kids can be involved in the decisions rather than like us just saying, go to your room. This is the way it is around here. And you guys are pissing us off or whatever.

So a lot of these, a lot of these opportunities that we, or a lot of these situations that pop up, they're actually just really good opportunities to teach people, educate your children and to teach them some of the proper ways to eat. So the, the website, I think this is the right one. It's called food.

Okay. Or food. Do you Kate? Oh, maybe. Yeah. Food grades look like it was from the 1970s. Yeah. I can't,

it might be. I don't know how to read, but it says potato tortilla chips. Like, this is the first page. It was a B minus. Right. I'm like, oh, OK. Yeah. And I mean, if you look like Katie did a deep dive, I don't know if there's like a bio on this guy.

She's like, who is this person? And, you know, kind of went down it. And and again, I'm not the person is trying hard. Right. And he's admittedly saying, I don't know everything. This is just what i read um but to someone who uh knows anything about nutrition it's it makes you pull whatever hair out that you have left yeah somebody was asking whether or not certain athletes um actually

might need a little bit more fat than normal to perform better i don't know if there's any correlation if it's just getting bigger like can they get bigger off of just eating more fat yeah i mean you can definitely get bigger off i mean it's just more eventually it all comes down to kind of calories right i mean in calorie you're gonna eat so many more calories eating so many more so much more fat um i think there was a big push in the endurance community for a long time because that the the fat will satiate you for a very much longer time um so people were like hitting those like the the goons or gel packs or whatever which is basically just you know some sort of a sugar but you'd have these big spikes ups and downs so

i think they started to add a little bit of fat to kind of normalize that you know the big ups and downs those spikes and crashes out a little bit um you know, I don't think, you know, there's not like one population that needs one thing more than another. I think it's just going to be about how do you operate on it, you know, and where are you in your, you know, kind of athletic career when you're a soccer player? I don't know if you could have operated on, you know, with a bunch of, with a bunch of fat. I mean, that'd be an interesting experiment to kind of have, but it's just whatever makes you feel good. I mean, in my opinion, I always try to tell people like, you know, Hey, I have a soccer

game. What should I eat? Eat whatever makes you feel good and fast. Don't eat like a beef stew and feel like sluggish and then you want to take a nap. Something light that something makes you feel fast and jumpy. You know, if it makes you feel slow and whatever, probably shouldn't eat't eat that and i would say in general that's going to be more lean protein high carbohydrate i feel that and i think there's like more so there's more so fat minimums for people like sure like you there's just a threshold you shouldn't go below because i fuck with your

hormones yes but you know it's what you said about the soccer thing i think if if i tried it and i gave myself the time to get used to it i I could have done high fat, low carbohydrate when I played soccer. Because I know there's not running in jiu-jitsu, but the cardiovascular demands is like doing that just fine. You know what I mean? But you're also in a different hormonal time period in your life. You're right. I think we have to kind of look at that and say like as a younger person you can take advantage of carbohydrates in a much more efficient and better anabolic way um so why

fuck with that that's true no like for a kid i wouldn't i wouldn't say that a kid should like limit carbohydrates or anything yeah um but yeah i agree with you there oh hey hey real quick uh-oh i may escape to go roll with some people oh i'm gonna be back you're gonna go kill some people i'm gonna get killed and do some killing oh well we can we can wrap her up you don't need to wrap her out yeah i think we're good wrap around oh wrap it up a couple of reach arounds no i don't know if we can do a quadruple reach around we could technically yes i choose to be in the back of the line though who's going to be in the front have you put much thought to that before i just did it right now. Okay, alright. I'll believe you.

This was a little bit too quick, huh? Yes, I think it was. You should have paused a little bit. So we got a seminar coming up here, huh? Yes, Ben Patrick's coming, man. It's going to be great. We finally got everything finalized and this will go

pretty quick, right? Yeah, this is live right now. Oh, this is live. All right, cool. Half of the VIP experience is sold out. Half of the free spots are gone. So if you're interested, I think on all socials there are links to go and get it. So if you're interested in seeing Ben Patrick and Mark Bell spit some some knowledge at you that's not how you get on knowledge jesse knowledge

that's not how you say it are you sure yeah i don't know man you just i'm not sure if i believe anything that you say after what you just said it's knowledge what about your kines kines over toes seminar kines over so seminar damn it damn it that's good wow we always come up with some good shit together dude i know we do and it's after the fact too that's the worst part oh well any you're gonna be there oh hell yeah you're busy right halfway sold out is there gonna be enough room for us for for us four here we'll make we'll make room for you guys somehow some way it's gonna be cool i'm i'm really excited to see the guy he seems uh he seems to be one of those people that i would like to go and see at a seminar but like every day today i could not

handle that guy just way too much high energy and be like all right you need to leave or you need to you know go take a nap go hey go sit down you asked me for his number and i was like here we go it's like he is he is on all the time. He must be exhausted. He's amazing. And I'm super excited to see what he's able to kind of do. It's going to be really, really cool, entertaining, a lot of information. I'm just going to be exhausted even just being there and watching him do it. Are you running a powerlifting meet coming up?

I am. Record Breakers is coming back. What? Yeah. We've got about eight weeks. The pro day is about halfway full. The pro day is about halfway full. The amateur day is about 80% full, I think. So, yeah, we're going to bring it back and start doing some meets and everything. Should be really cool.

I'm going to come there and deadlift my body weight. It's going to be sick. It'll be awesome. It'll be amazing. It'll be good. All right, Andrew, take us on out of here, buddy. Thank you, Magic Spoon, for sponsoring today's episode. Magicspoon.com slash PowerProject.

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