Mark Bell's Power Project - MBPP EP. 650 - More PED Accusations? Natty or Juice Subreddit Response

Episode Date: December 31, 2021

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All right, so what are we looking up right here? What are we trying to check out? People have been talking trash? Yeah, man, there have been a few of these. Reddit's great. Some guy DM'd me a Reddit post, another Natty or Not Reddit post. And there have been a few of these that have been done over the years now. But this one was particularly, particularly fun because of the comments primarily.

The comments got me. They got me good. I can just get this sent over to Andrew. Women be shopping and haters be hating. Mm-hmm. Where's that women be shopping thing from? Women be shopping. Where is that from?

Come on, Nutty Professor. Oh, the Nutty Professor? Yeah. Oh, okay, okay. Yep. Women be shopping shopping fun little tidbit um that's my my old username on instagram and i still have that i saved it for an old account uh the natty professor i got that because of the nutty professor i was on i think it was back in 2014 or something great movie yeah it was a great movie, but it still holds up. Yeah. But because of that, people are throwing flames

at you. So what subreddit is this? This is the Natty or Juice subreddit. Actually, there's a lot of fun posts on that. What's the title so people can find it? Nsima E. Yang, co-host of Mark Bell's Power Project, claims to be

a lifelong Natty, fake Natty, or just good genetics. Yeah, that's a great picture. That's a great picture, but like I was saying, I think, I mean, you're so much bigger now. Andrew, I am not so much bigger now. Yeah, you are. Well, actually, now I'm 250. I think I was probably around 240. What's weird is that you got a lot taller from that time.

That's what I find strange. You know, that's probably the growth hormone I'm seeing or the igf1 what are the comments in there your ass if you guys if you go down one of them is like mark bell juice it's like if i'm with you automatically automatically and then guilt by association yeah and then there's another right here right i can't pronounce that name i wonder what the physiques look like from from some of the heat that's coming from these people you know oh probably great they're probably all probably all jacked and lean yeah the ones i don't get though is like when they get so mad like this one pussy boy fake yeah faking i can't see it was weird to see jay cutler and ronnie coleman on

there hating on your physique because I think they did pretty well themselves you know yeah if you type in Natty Bodybuilder on Google Ronnie Coleman pops up oh does he pop up

yeah you know I'm sure he was natural at some point yeah at some point but yeah the comments people are mad man

and there's nothing you can do about it right I mean you've been drug tested like you competed in a bodybuilding federation that drug tested, right? WNBF, INBA. Do you get tested at all for jiu-jitsu?

No. Or do they randomly test people? They randomly test people. Actually, one guy. How come you haven't been randomly tested? Because I'm not a black belt. But I really hope once. I really hope I do at some point.

Because I think what they do is that I've heard them test the black belts. Kanan Duarte, two years ago, or it was a year ago in the IBJJF I've heard them test the black belts. Canaan Duarte two years ago, or as a year ago in the IBJJF, he's a heavyweight black belt. He got popped for something. So he wasn't able to compete for a year or two. And now he's back competing. But jujitsu is a martial art where a lot of people talk about taking stuff.

And it's like, you're not supposed to, but since the testing is so, it's, it's kind of seems like kind of random. And there's, like, I think they usually test people that look, like, Kanan was jacked, you know? So I think they tested him because he won a lot of stuff, and they're like, okay, let's test him. But it's not something like the WNBF, the federation that I competed in and got my pro card in.

They test their off-season pros if they have their pro card. And then you got tested like recently, like this year, right? Yeah, I got tested this year, off-season tested earlier this year. And then I got a bunch of blood work from Merrick just because I wanted to see how everything was going with my test, cholesterol, not just the testosterone, but also everything else to make sure I was healthy. I got three of those. I got one earlier this year, like in March or April. Another one in October because I wanted to do that little testosterone test to see how Fidojia, Agrestis, and Tonkat Ali would affect my luteinizing hormone,

testosterone, all of that. Then I got one three months after that so I could see the results of that. Did it seem to have any impact? A little bit. My luteinizing hormone changed quite a bit. That's on my YouTube channel, and the tests are there. But also, literally all the tests that I've had from Merrick this year, just in case people are interested in what my levels are

or if they want to see if anything looks weird because I'm on the juice, which I'm not, they'll be attached below. So you guys can check that out. But that's the thing. It doesn't matter how many tests I get done because it'll be either I cycled off or I was taking stuff when I was younger and I'm not taking it anymore. Since you were like 12. Since I was like 12. And I have the residual effects of drug use.

So that's why I'm so muscular um there's there's gonna always be something and the i think the interesting aspect of this all is like okay you think i'm on drugs all right but i just want you to imagine if you feel so strongly about this just imagine if i actually like just imagine that i'm telling the truth now realize how wild you sound. You know what I mean? You're coming at me with a lot of that shit on that post. That's some, damn, those are some scathing shit. But imagine that I am telling the truth

and you're saying all this. It's kind of, you know? I'd also have to say, and maybe you did this more so in the past, but it's kind of you know well i'd also have to say and maybe you did this more so in the past but it's not something and i know that your uh your old ig was natty professor but at this point because you're older and more mature and stuff it's not even something that you really put forward you don't really you don't necessarily talk about it not unless i'm asked about it yeah occasionally it'll like pop up yeah and i do I do think it's like, I think it's good to mention here and there because that way people can know like,

oh, like maybe for me to look something like Bradley Martin or for me to look like something like Nsema or some of these people that I'm seeing online, maybe I don't have to take stuff. Because I think previously, I think people thought that they absolutely had to. Yeah. And for each individual, it might be a little different. Somebody might feel the need to do it, and they might feel that they literally, quote, unquote, have to. But you can push your body pretty damn far without doing anything. Absolutely.

I just made a video on my YouTube channel, and I think it was called The Mind Virus of the Fitness Industry. And it's just the idea that a lot of people put forward as far as these natty or not stuff like Brandon Harding or whatever, he decided to hop on three years into training. And when I was young, there was no YouTube or Instagram or anything. So I just kind of trained. And then I learned about what steroids were when I was like 20 or 21, but I already had like eight or nine years of training in. So that wasn't able to, I guess, seep into my mindset as far as training is concerned. But I do mention it every now and then because when people look at me, they already assume that I'm on drugs. I need to make them understand, no, I'm not. I've been training for 16 years now. I've put a lot of work in, right?

But the main reason I do put that forward, that I am natural, is because I do want to encourage people not to go on steroids. So if an individual comes- And I usually try to discourage people from taking them too. I'm usually trying to push people

because I just think the further that you can push them off. I had a friend recently ask me about it and I was like, you'd be better waiting until you're 50, 55, 60. Just keep pushing that shit back for as long as you can and if you feel at some point that some performance stuff dropped off, then maybe use them then.

And that's the point. I'm not putting that forward because the interesting thing is in this industry, people say that if you say you're natural too much, that's a red flag that you're probably on drugs. But the thing is, is I'm letting people know I am because I don't think that you need to go down that road. It's kind of odd because within fitness right now, it's great that there are so many people being honest about their drug use. And I think that's great. If you are on, be honest about it. But I think with that comes individuals thinking that that's a necessity

to actually get big and strong. Like again, prime example, Brandon Harding trains at 16, three years in, 19 years old, he hops on. Now he's doing fucking growth hormone and insulin and all these things so that he can get to a different level. But there's a lot of young cats paying attention to his content and they're going to follow suit because that's their guy. That's the person that they look up to. And as much as I think it's great that he's being honest, I also think that if I was that young in this generation and he was the guy that I was paying attention to,

instead of putting in 5, 8, 10 years of training patiently, I would try to take that shortcut because Brandon did it. You know what I mean? So I have to let people know, no, I'm not, and just do this. This is what you can do as far as your training. That's the shit we talk about on the podcast, your habits, your nutrition, your training. All these things over time can get you some extremely good results. I'm not saying you're going to look like me. I'm not saying you're going to look like anybody else.

But you're definitely going to get to the best version of yourself. Right. There's so much to kind of uncover there. What you got, Andrew? So this comment, although it's kind of all over the place, but basically they say that it's hard to believe because of how thick and lean you are at the same time. It's very, very hard to do that. And you need rare genetics. It's a lot of people are like, it's fake genetics. You know, it's not rare genetics, but I wanted to ask Mark, how rare are rare genetics? Meaning like how many encema eatings

have you ever met your whole life? When you talk about physically, probably not as many. But I also think that there's a huge problem with people finding what they're good at. So that's a big issue. People not finding. He obviously, Enzima and maybe some sort of genetics that he has, he has a propensity to grow muscle really well. And I think the criticism from that person is actually really, really fair. That does make sense. Like, hey, if you were really lean, we'd be like, okay.

I think you can just go without eating and just, you know, be really lean and eat enough protein to hold on to some muscle mass. Like that makes sense. And if you were 185 pounds, I think people would be like, yeah, that makes some sense that I can see that. But you're like 240, right? Now I'm 250 because I've been eating a lot of carbs in the holidays, bro. I'm 250 right now, but I'm not as lean as I was in that picture. And I picture I was 240.

So I have a little bit more body fat on me right now. So, you know, to answer your question, no, I haven't really run into a lot of people that are like him. He's unique, for sure, when it comes to the physical side of stuff. I mean, we have a gym here, and we have a lot of powerlifters in here. And

even within the gym, we don't really have a mutant currently, like right at the moment. We don't have, like like a Jeremy Avila. Or Andrei Milanochev. Yeah, we do have Andrei Milanochev. So see, once you get into the mutant league, you get into this league of mutants, there's some mutants,

and then there's some really mutated people that have really crazy advantages. And Seem and I were talking the other day about Dmitry Klokov. There's another guy, you know, who he probably used some stuff, is, and Seem and I were talking the other day about Dmitry Klokov. There's another guy, you know, who he probably used some stuff, and I don't know his business, but like a lot of those guys, even in the Olympics, they try to figure out a way to, you know, do what they need to do. I think he won a silver medal.

But you can't beat Dmitry Klokov. Like he has so much work that he put into being an Olympic lifter. But then also he's kind of born with these traits that like, I don't know how you would attain them. He's kind of bow legged, his legs kind of bow out. But then he's also pigeon toed at the same time where his feet are kind of like not only straightforward, but pigeoned in a bit. Yeah, that kind of stuff, like it loads up your hip like really, really crazy when you get into these positions. Stan Efferding is another freak, another complete mutant. Stan can't really even walk straight.

Like his feet are so ducked out. You're just like, how is this guy an athlete? And then Stan will fuck you up. Stan is a really, really athletic, explosive, strong person. Like he knows a little bit on how to fight. He knows a little bit on how to wrestle. He's a professional bodybuilder. He was a professional powerlifter.

When Stan turns his feet straight, my whole point in kind of bringing this up, when he turns his feet straight, it's different for him versus everyone else that just is going to turn their feet straight. His feet are always like this. So the second that he just turns the toes in just a little bit to do a squat,

his hip is loaded up with tons and tons of tension almost. And he's able to produce a lot of force from that. And then that's how he's able to squat 900 pounds. But the other thing that I'm going to say here is that you can't like, I think people have the wrong idea of some of this stuff. So I think that people think they're going to get with a company like Merrick and they're just going to take some testosterone and that things are going to be awesome and they're going to be off the races and they're going to be able to build the physique that they finally wanted to build. You can't build the physique that you want to build with a crappy foundation or crappy habits.

You need to be able to have a good habit with your sleep. You need, it's very crucial that you have a good habit with your food. If you don't have those things, and SEMA grew up with a lot of those things. You grew up bodybuilding. You grew up thinking like, I'm going to slap on some muscle mass

and I'm going to work on getting bigger without getting fatter. That's bodybuilding. And I was also extremely fortunate of having a mother that was extremely into health. Like my mom wasn't somebody like she was very thick because she did shot put and track in Nigeria when she was younger. But outside of that, she was someone who never could drink any sodas at home. We were always eating real foods. Like there was never any Lunchables or any type of this shit. We'd be eating rice, meat, stew, goat meat. There'd always food.

You know what I mean? My mom fed me well in a healthy way, and a lot of individuals don't have that, sadly. I was lucky. I was lucky in that sense. What about a birthday or something? Would you have cake? Nah, bro.

Really? There would be that, but I wouldn't get to indulge. I was lucky. I was lucky in that sense. What about like a birthday or something? Would you have cake? Nah, bro. Really? There, there would be that, but like, I wouldn't get to indulge. Like I had maybe, um,

maybe there'd be a slice of cake or a little bit of something, but she never was like, she never allowed me to indulge in junk food. Right. And even, but it was a big deal. Like you've gotten in trouble a bunch of times for, right? All right.

Immigrant parent, man, they, they, they, they'll spank. And I had no problem with it. But I remember there's this time we went to this,

it was a party for a school thing. And the teacher's like, oh, and Seema, would you like a soda? Oh, yeah. And I looked at my mom and my mom just, she didn't, she didn't, she just smiling and shit. I was like, yeah. So I go and I take the Pepsi. I'm chugging it in the corner.

And I look at my mom. She's like, I had in my ass. I remember I had that shit. I was like, I knew what that meant. I got home. It's like,

I told you don't be drinking soda out there. But, you know how many followers you're losing right now on Instagram? No, no, no, but, but, but yo, yo yo like the spankings my mom gave me they were all because i know some americans listening they're like but nah man they were no but like honestly you know you don't want your kid to run out in the street right because you think it's unsafe yeah yeah do you want your son to you know drink uh 60 grams of sugar when he's still growing. Maybe she just felt like, hey, that's dangerous.

I don't want that shit in our house. I don't want you to touch it. I don't want you to. Then plus on top of that, you played soccer, and so there's a lot of other stuff going on. But what I was going to get to is that you would have to take a very specific cocktail to get the results that you're thinking of. So you look at like Joe Aesthetics and the person that you mentioned,

and you look at some of these guys, they're not getting their physique with just TRT. It's not just testosterone. And that's why in SEMA sometimes when we get into the weeds of some of this stuff and we have Jake Benson on and Joe Sullivan, we have some of these people that talk really, really deeply about the chemistry that goes behind sometimes the physique that they have or the lifts that they're hitting. Even for myself, as much as I know, I'm like, Jesus, that's a lot of work. Like insulin, you take it nearly every day. Growth hormone doesn't work as good unless you

have insulin with it. Go listen to that episode, guys. By the way, Jake Benson, Joe Sullivan, they talked about a lot of things that we've had a lot of guests on, but I've never heard them talk about the shit that Jake and Joe talked about. Right. And someone like Joe Aesthetics, I think he's talked about his insulin usage and some of these things. And I'm not promoting any of it. What I'm saying is that I believe that what Encema has going on inside his body and what you've had going on inside your body from when you were young is a combination

of your genetics and your epigenetics, which is what you have done and your environment that you grew up in. So you have a cascade of hormones that are almost always favorable. It's not like you have some unfair advantage. You worked for for some of those some of those were maybe gifted to you we can argue about that um but we all have we all have these little gifts and if you find the thing that you have a gift in young like playing the piano or being an artist or i mean we know people like this david garibaldi he knew he was gonna be artist since time he was like three and he's fucking awesome at it right so do we sit back and be like that motherfucker like his genetics his genetics bro he's way but we're not sitting here being like dude i think that motherfucker's on adderall

like he's on some shit that's the only way you can paint that good he's on some shit to make him that way but your your epigenetics you, the environment that you grew up in and the environment that you start to build and make for yourself is going to be the thing that is really going to be able to open up the hormones and the genes that you have access to. They might be pretty good. They might not be great, but you will never fully open up. I think Thomas DeLauer mentioned some stuff like this on our show too. You're never going to fully open up. I think Thomas DeLauer mentioned some stuff like this on our show too. You're never going to fully open up your full genetic potential unless you are really leaning into it very, very hard. And I think for someone like Nsema,

he might not even realize how hard he was leaning into it because he was having, I think you were having fun doing bodybuilding. I think you really loved soccer. And the way you ate at home was just the way you ate at home because that's mom's rules and she'll whoop your ass. Exactly. There's a few things, though, man. The first thing, I've mentioned this before on the podcast, and Andrew's the one who kind of got me, I think, into Joe Dispenza's books years ago. The book You Are the Placebo by Joe Dispenza. Dispenza's books years ago, the book, You Are the Placebo by Joe Dispenza. We talked about it a little bit on the podcast, but there's a lot of things in that book, which I think people would get a lot from as far as believing that they can do something or believing that they can't.

Because when you, like, there's so many instances of that book where they talk about an individual believing that they could, like that study that was mentioned in the book where they sent all those old people into the home and literally those people started aging backwards. They started putting down their walkers, getting out of wheelchairs, et cetera, because they were in settings that allowed them to do things that they did in the past. Their physiology changed because of the belief that they had. It's going to sound quacky to some people, but when you're a young guy or whatever, and you're in your fitness, and everyone's saying that you have to take drugs to

get to a certain point, you implant this idea that, first off, I know I'm not going to get that big, or I know I'm not going to get that strong if I don't hop on. And that belief is going to have an impact on the way you train, on the intensity of which you train, on how much effort you put in over time. Because if you automatically don't think you're going to be able to do something because there's this limiter, there's this lack of drug use that you're not doing, well, you're going to always be trying to fight a potentially losing battle. That's one thing. The second thing is, that was one book that I think is super beneficial. But another book that I gift to all of my friends is the book Mindset by Carol Dweck. I heard about this book from Tom Bilyeu a few years ago, and I read it.

And it's the book with the idea that when kids are young, a lot of parents somewhat say, oh, you're so smart, you're so intelligent, you're this, you're that. A lot of parents somewhat say, oh, you're so smart, you're so intelligent, you're this, you're that, rather than implanting the child with the idea of if you put effort in, this is what you're going to get from it. My mom never told me I was smart. My mom never told me I was intelligent. My mom always, and she didn't read this book, but I guess for some reason she knew that she needed to implant within me that the work I put in is what I'm going to get out. Right. So like, I never, I never really thought that I was a smart kid. This is an example. When I was young, my mom, um, I would like hear music, uh, on the, on TV or whatever jingles or whatever. We had a little keyboard. So I'd kind of just like, fuck with the keyboard and play those jingles. And she was like, Oh, okay, let's get you in some piano classes. But this is

the thing. This is the thing. Um, I don't, I, I don't think I was particularly talented, but I do think because she saw that she put me in piano classes at, um, the community college when I was younger and she like, and I started being able to play the piano like I started learning that and I was really good when I was young because she she just she showed it to me and I was just like practicing or whatever um and I got really good at piano over the years she had me take math classes but you're like not today you're not extraordinary at it because you didn't stick with it because I didn't stick with it you mentioned you're like I kind of wish I did but I really wish I did just for whatever reason weren't as interested as you needed to be probably i wasn't as interested in it as i was with sports because

she gave me a decision when high school came she's like if you want to keep pursuing it you can if you don't because i played the piano the clarinet the sax i played all those instruments um and i can still play the sax and and clarinet but piano would take me some practicing um but i chose to stop those you know what I mean? I wish I didn't, though, looking back as an adult. And I can always restart it. I think that you have belief systems, too, that you don't always share,

because I think you're fairly humble. I think I've seen on your Instagram before, and I think you've changed things because you're just like, ah, I don't know. People aren't going to get it. I don't know if it's still on there, but you said be an anomaly or something like that. And I think you have strong beliefs in yourself that you can,

and I believe, I believe if you told me something, I would be like, yep. Yeah. Like if you told me I'm going to do a, a 360 dunk or something, I'd be like, Hey, look, man, anything that's physical, I'm going to just not doubt. You know, if you said something that you're going to do something and it was like, maybe, uh, I would believe in anything that you said, but I would be maybe more suspect if it was something that you weren't currently prepared for. Of course. And you're like, I'm going to do this, and I would be like – you might get hurt trying that, but you still will probably get there because you're pretty relentless with stuff. But this is one more thing I want to mention because the genetic idea, right? As much as I know genetics are real and they're important.

Some people are going to flame me for this one. My mom also, she put me, because I was doing piano in community college, like as a seven year old, she put me in math classes. I finished calculus by freshman year of high school. So I didn't have to take math in high school because she put me on all those things. But again, I am not smart okay i just understand that if i want to do something i just have to learn about it i don't pick up things fast i don't read quickly or whatever i i don't i'm not like i don't because people are like oh you must be super smart for that no i was just put in front

of these things and had the opportunity to learn them. Yeah. Which is amazing by your mom. Like that's what being a parent is all about. It's amazing by her, but this is the thing. She never praised me on like, you're so smart or whatever. She always said, look at how hard you're working and look at what you're getting out of it. I'm like, whoa. Yeah. It just, it's literally the work. So the genetics thing, as true as it is, I just hope that individuals don't chalk everything up to your genetics. That's another thing that Joe talks about in that book that I think is so important because, okay, yeah, clearly, okay, I have good genetics for this. with lifting but also with sports non-stop there is a level of like belief and work you need to put into anything and no we're not saying that if you train for 15 years whatever you look like me but you will look really fucking good you know what i mean that's why like whenever people say the genetics thing i'm just like i get it i know that's there but if you again i think that's one

of those things where you say oh oh, it's just the genetics. That's another limiter that you kind of put on yourself because now you're like, I can't do that because I don't have the genetics for it. Right. Let's flip it a little bit. And there's many people. I'm even close to some people that are like this. Their parents were super strict about their nutrition growing up, and they are fat as hell because they went the opposite way.

You know, for some reason at some point, they like, almost like being in the military, like the guy that has to make his bed every day and keep his haircut all perfect, he says, fuck it, and he's got a mullet when he gets out of the military, smoking cigarettes, and he never makes his bed type thing, right? that happens to a lot of people you chose you made some choices like this like okay mom showed me this um these are things that i think are a good structure and they happen to run alongside with athletics they happen to fit perfectly into bodybuilding it's like she didn't allow you i don't think you were ever fat

right no i started to get well because you got injured i started gaining weight like when i was like 13 through 16 is when i got the heaviest because that's when i started having going crazy and stuff too and i couldn't play soccer because of oscar slaughter so that's when the gym started the gym started at 13 because i couldn't run and i was 220 by 16. It wasn't the cleanest 220, but it was good. I lost about 25 to 30 of those pounds when I started playing soccer again. But see what happens for some of us is that like at those ages, you already,

so you kind of learned whether you were thinking about it or not that like continuing to move is going to be really important because you're like, I could be a big boy if I don't figure out movement, right? But I'm imagining, because these are things that happen for me, that you're getting noticed, you're getting recognition, you're getting compliments from friends and people around you, like people in school. Sometimes they'll tease you about it,

but hey, look, as a teenager, any attention you're getting is kind of almost fair game. It's welcome, right? Kenzel Murph, I was wearing a brown t-shirt. And Seema, your bicep's so big. What? First compliment from a girl, like any attention you're getting is kind of almost fair game. You know, it's welcome, right? Kenzel Murph, I was wearing a brown t-shirt. And Seema, your bicep's so big. What? First compliment from a girl, bro. I remember that. Brown t-shirt.

I went like this. And she was like, ah. I was like, ooh. And then your friends are like trying to make fun of you because they're trying to like, they're trying to like, you know, nullify the situation or whatever. And you quickly recognize like, hey, this, I don't know, this might be something for me. Like people are paying attention to it. And it makes you feel amazing, you know, because your friends are like, you're the strong guy.

You're the guy that can do this. You're the guy that can do that. And you get recognition for that. And you lean into that more and more. When I was a kid, you know, my oldest brother, he played football for the University of Cincinnati. He was a division one football player. He did really well in football. He went into professional wrestling. Chris played football. Chris did some high school wrestling. And then Chris later, you know, became like a filmmaker and stuff. And we all kind of had these

big dreams. Like my family kind of teased and kidded around about it, but I was very athletic when I was young, at least in comparison to those around me. I don't know how athletic I was overall, but they called me the chosen one. And they'd kid around about it. I'd be like, this dude, like, I don't know what the difference is with this kid, but this kid's going to like do something with himself. And you benched like some massive amount of weight when you were young, right? What was it? It was like, yeah, I think, I think I was maybe 16. I think I did like 365 or something like that. I didn't get that till I was an adult, dude.

Like what the fuck? I remember, uh, my, uh, one of my teachers, um, was like, uh, he, I, he knew that I did like a powerlifting contest. Cause I think I might've told you guys, my mom would like call the school and be like, my son did this. And then it would announce on the loudspeaker and I would just turn like bright red and I'd be like oh my god no one even knows what powerlifting is mom don't call the damn school but my teacher was like how much did you bench and I think it was like 335 or something like that and uh he was like he was like in disbelief. He's like, that can't

be. He's like, I work out all the time. He's like, and I benched 275. And I remember just being like, well, sometimes that's the way, that's the way things are. And he was like, he was, you know, kidding around, but he was, he was kind of mad and it was in front of the whole class and like everyone laughed and stuff, but those kinds of things, they stick with you just like sometimes bad comments or bad things stick with you. And you can kind of remember some of those things and they could lead you all the way to crying. But sometimes you get a compliment and sometimes that little boost or that little compliment that you got from somebody is almost like a mentoring thing. They didn't even know it. They didn't even realize it. I heard Jocko Willink talking about

this more recently. And he said, be very careful with your words because you don't know who you are to certain people. So for people that are, you know, trying to become successful and for people that are starting to stick their habits together pretty well, if you start getting some recognition for that, that's a good time to like, you know, you can still cut into people and you can still like tease and stuff, but you, you want to be, you want to be careful because you could have that impact. And on the same note, saying just one thing positive, boom, could get someone, you know, to be super motivated. You gave a compliment to Ryan Soper. He's probably on cloud nine. Cause getting a compliment from you on physique is different than getting a compliment from just some random person that's not that jacked yeah dude ryan was looking crazy i really walked into the gym like

wait why do you look like yeah dude what's going on with your shoulders long sleeve shirt this guy was pumped through a long sleeve shirt that's some wild shit yeah that's funny we were just walking jack walking he looks jacked walking past each other in the store a couple days ago i'm just like do you put it on some size right now or what he's just like i don't know i'm like dude you look pretty fucking jacked right now you're just like walking around he's like oh thanks dude so yeah he's doing something good he's another guy he's got he does have he's got pretty good genetics you know his genetics aren't like insane or something he's not just walking around shredded without doing anything but he's in great shape, stays in great shape, but he always talks about how he's got to fight for it.

Yeah. You know, there's two other things that are super important. And, damn, it's always my mom, dude, because, like, she would always, like, really grill me on the way I said things about myself, like my self-talk. real me on the way I said things about myself, like my self-talk. And even to this day, if I ever say something like, I remember I made a video about this, but I remember calling her and she was like, are you going to be able to come visit today? I'm like, ah, mom, today's not a good day for that. And she's like, what do you mean? Today's not a good day.

Say that again. I'm like, I'm just a little bit too busy today. It is a good day, but I'll make sure to see you tomorrow or the next day. And it's like that with everything. If I ever speak about something in a negative way, and that's why I don't these days. I'm very, very careful with my words about everything. I never say I can't do that.

I always phrase things differently because I know that the way I say things is going to inform the way that I think. That's why everyone that's close to me, whenever I hear them say some shit, I don't know close to me, whenever I hear them say some shit, I don't know what that is. Whenever I hear them say something, I always grill them.

I grill Andrew and my homies. If I ever hear them say something like, I find this, whatever, I always grill them on that shit because I know that the way you say shit is super fucking important. That'll have an effect on the way you think things. We had David Graydon on the show, the real estate investor, raking in $100 million, whatever.

He's working on $250 million next year. He's just cranking through stuff. And I corrected him a bunch of times. I'm like, it doesn't work that way. I don't think that you should say stuff that way. And I gave him other options. And he's like a bunch of times. I'm like, it doesn't work that way. I don't think you should say stuff that way. And I gave him other options, and he's like, you're right. You're fucking right. Like, if I'm going to be a savage, if I want to do better, you're 100% correct.

Absolutely. And then, like, I've mentioned this before, but the tattoo on my hand that has the limit with the line through it, she always— Did she beat your ass when she found it, or has she not found it? She hasn't. Oh, no. She hasn't seen it. I've been in front of her so many times, it or has she not found it? She hasn't. Oh, no. She hasn't seen it. I've been in front of her so many times,

but I guess since it's such a small tattoo on the hands, she hasn't noticed that I'm not going to say anything because tattoos for Nigerians,

what? No, we don't get tattoos. You can't wait for the day that we have your mom on the show and we just divulge all this dirt.

Bro. He does so many nootropics. Shut up, bro. No, no, no. Be quiet. We don't know if she's going to hear this one, so could you guys just please chill? But the saying, the sky's the limit, she hated that saying because it already put a limit on things.

This shows you kind of the way she thinks. Why end it at the sky? That's why she says the sky's not the limit. That's why she would tell me that all the time, and that's why I got that limit with the line through it. It's the way you believe things. It's the way you say things that informs the way you think and that informs the way you act. And that shit's been grilled into me. And that's the only thing I want people to try to grill into themselves. I've heard somebody say, once you get past the sky, what is there? There's space, right? And

then when you get into space, you just float. So you work that hard to get there, and then there's when you get into space you just like float you know so like you're up you you work that hard to get there you know and then now you're there and like maybe things are might be a little easier but we know that that's never the case shit always just you always find more stuff to uh to throw your way want to take us on out of here andrew i think we covered all of it i think i think so and i would like everyone to sound off in the comments especially all the uh the jealous ones that think and seem as a fake natty uh and please follow the podcast at mark wells power project on instagram at the americ oh my bad yeah good call sorry yeah so we talked about the uh oh actually if you guys do want to check out all of in sema's labs

for the entire year you guys can check the i'm going to put a google drive link down in the description below and those are all coming from merrick, a legit TRT, HRT, telehealth clinic. I guess they can't call them a clinic anymore. Whatever they are, they're the clinic that Derek from More Plates, More Dates always talks about because it's his clinic. And so that's who we go with as well. I'll also put my drug test from the WNBF. I'll put that. Even better.

So an actual drug test. Head over to Merrick health.com that's M A R E K health.com. And you guys can, like I said, you can hop on the phone with them or you can chat with them and, you know, depending on whatever you guys want to achieve, whether it be TRT or you just want to get some labs done. And when it comes time to pay for those labs, use promo code power projectPROJECT10 for 10% off all of those labs. Again, links to them down in the description as well as the podcast show notes. Please follow the podcast at MarkBowlesPowerProject on Instagram, at MBPowerProject on TikTok and Twitter. My Instagram and Twitter is at IamAndrewZ and Seema, where are you at? I'm Seema Inyang on Instagram, YouTube, and Seema Inyang on TikTok and Twitter, Mark.

You can see my Yin Gang on TikTok and Twitter, Mark. I also want to kind of finish up by saying that anyone that cuts their body fat very low or cuts their body fat, let's just say in half, say someone who's listening is 20% and they cut down to 10% or someone's 10% and they cut down to 5%, probably nearly every single person that listens to this show that already has a couple of years of training, as soon as they do that, they'll be accused of taking steroids. Because you will look fucking awesome. Like, look at Tristan Lee. Like, I know that kid's, like, unbelievably shredded and diced up.

But, like, and again, like, I don't barely know him. I don't know half of these people. Like, I don't know them know them. I'm, like, in their house, you know. It's like I have no idea what their habits are, what they do, but anyone that gets really, really lean, uh, even Andrew, whatever you weigh now, if you got down, if you cut your body fat in half, that would be all the comments like, man, he must be using something. And it's not necessarily always the case. Right. But if you get shredded, people are going to be like, Oh shit. Anyway, in the comments,

maybe you guys can let us know, like, what do you think would put you, give you some sort of peace of mind? Like, do you think that we should have Derek, you know, send us some sort of test that he thinks is like the greatest test to see if someone's natty or not? I don't think any of those things really solve a problem, but maybe you guys do. I think your best bet is just to not put limits on yourself and not think that you have to do anything the way that other people may have done them just to get a similar result. Strength is never a weakness. Weakness is never strength. Catch you all later. Bye.