Mark Bell's Power Project - MBPP EP. 675 - Joe Rogan Hit Job? Should Platforms Censor Language?

Episode Date: February 11, 2022

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And Seema, what's the deal with this TikTok thing? I see it's got certain rules set up and it seems like they're trying to ban or at least curtail some of the things that people say. Yeah, man. Like TikTok, in general as an app, it is very – it's a place where you got to be really careful about what you say. Like I had – because if you say something, the audience has a lot of power where if they mass report you for any apparent reason, and it could just be for some people, if they dislike a certain creator and something the creator says goes viral, but they dislike the person. If they mass report that creator, TikTok will just kick them off the platform and delete their account. I was once on a live and I was just talking about something and there were a bunch of people that

didn't like what I was talking about, mass reported, and I was banned. And you've got to be careful because if that happens repeatedly, TikTok will literally delete your account without letting you know what happened. That's really interesting, especially with live because you figure the longer content, you can at least

explain some of your side of the story, whatever it is you're talking about in particular, whether it be diet being polarizing or you talking about your thoughts on anything that's been going on for the last two years. Yeah, it's interesting that you can get in trouble for that. Something I find really interesting is that censorship has been around for a long time.

Yeah. And in the 50s and 60s, when the country, when this country had, I mean, I guess it's hard to say, like, what were the worst racial times or what, I mean, because we had slavery and so many other things going on. But there was literally, like, disgusting things going on in this country. And the reports that you would see on TV were from white guys who were buttoned up, who were in a suit and tie. It was black and white and it was shot and said in a very particular way. So at that time, it wasn't necessarily censorship, but you could not, there was no other form of communication that you saw. There's a whole movie that kind of parallels that. It's called Pleasantville. I haven't heard of it. I don't know if you guys ever seen it, but there's a

scene in the movie. The whole movie is shot, well, I'm going to ruin some of it for you, but the whole movie is shot in black and white. And then there's a scene in the movie where the mother cries and the movie turns into color. And it kind of shows you like, it's kind of shows you like it's kind of almost mocking that era because that era, it was like they only shared this part of America with everybody. Meanwhile, there's all this other shit going on. Meanwhile, America is being built and there were some things that were going on that were great. And there's a lot of shit that was going on that wasn't great, but it wasn't reported on evenly. It was only like, hey, this is so-and-so from – and it was all positive reports. It was all like –, any of these things, this is really an interesting thing because not everyone used to have a voice. And, you know, Tom Brokaw or whoever the newscaster was or whoever's on TV, Oprah Winfrey, they like have earned a spot somehow, you know, through years of working towards it.

They earned a spot. They earned a slot on TV, right? And TV has its own rules. You can't cuss, and there are certain things to that. But now anyone that just has access to Wi-Fi has a voice. And so should there be some censorship? I would say, like, how can you not have some censorship? Like, I shouldn't be able to say something, you know, so that you're going to go and harm somebody

or you're going to go harm a school or, like. Yeah, that's illegal. Right, right. That's quite literally illegal. It's illegal, right? But then, like, where, I know it gets to be kind of stupid because, like, where do we draw the line? But I can't say anything discriminatory towards someone's sexuality.

I can't say something that discriminates against somebody being heavier or somebody being skinnier or somebody being a certain ethnicity. Or when you think about when we were kids, like a lot of this was fair play, like kind of you. Not even, you know what, this is getting into something that has happened recently because it's not even when we were kids. It's 2022. And quite literally, things were very different seven to eight years ago of what people could say. And things were very different seven to eight years ago before that to what people would say normatively. For example, man man you're gay like that was a joke kids would make in elementary school right and obviously nowadays we're just

like we know okay you know what that's actually not maybe okay that things totally say because you know it can be offensive but um that was totally normal for people to say. Everybody was running around saying that as a joke, right? Now it's not. But we can understand that back then, contextually, no one had an issue with it. The society didn't have an issue with it. Now things are different. We'll talk about what's going on on TikTok. I remember this specifically.

In gym class one time, we were all lined up to like do these like jumps and this one kid jumped differently than everybody and i was like yo you're you know just like stuff like that but yes exactly exactly but we missed it but i'm gonna do it again. You're pretty good at that. I'm kind of good. The fun thing about it was that we were all friends and we all just like laughed about it. It wasn't a huge deal. We weren't trying to, you know, we weren't trying to hurt anybody. Some of this stuff that's been brought up like with The Rock talking about Joe Rogan.

And The Rock saying tranny. Yeah, right, right. And then The Rock kind of backpedaling against what he said about Joe Rogan because Joe Rogan has that thing where he says N-word. They edited together clips of him saying that multiple times. Again, context really does matter. I don't recall that particular thing that he did. I don't recall that.

So I can't really specify, but I'm imagining that he wasn't trying to hurt anybody. Dude, absolutely. I don't think he's trying to rile people up to get his ass kicked or anything like that. You know what I mean? I don't think that's where that came from. He's a comedian, and he tries to make jokes. And sometimes a joke is going to bomb and not hit right, and sometimes jokes, I mean, we joke often about ethnicity.

It's kind of fun. It's kind of funny. We poke jokes at each other. None of us are trying. We're not trying to hurt each other ever. We're just completely fucking around with each other. So it's all really interesting, and when you do it on a platform platform though, where you can make money,

that's where things start to get really interesting. And TikTok, you know, people make money off of TikTok. People make money on YouTube. You know, in something like the WWE, like especially years ago, Vince McMahon owns like, he owns everything. He owns like your name. You know, and so if you want to do something like The Rock had to get permission to use the name The Rock.

Like as he, you know, moved forward. And I don't even know John Cena's situation, but that's his actual name. Probably something similar. It's because he makes money off all these action figures. And if he wants to go, my point is, anytime somebody gives you money,

they own something of yours, and if they want to control your dialogue or control something else, it actually makes a lot of sense to me. And if you really are against, if anyone's actually truly against some of these censorship that these companies are doing, while I may not necessarily agree with them, then you would just discontinue being a consumer of those things.

But who's going to do that? And then, I mean, it just, it gets really, really crazy because I just, I saw this today. But Adele slammed for telling gender neutral award show she loves being a woman. And so I believe she's the one that like sings to ghosts, right? Or is that the other one? Sings what? She's like sings to ghosts right or is that uh the other one i don't know she's like sings to the dead i think it was either her or demi lovato i can't remember which one i don't remember but all i'm saying is like nobody is safe like yeah the second you slip up at something like this it's like nope you're you know you have a fuck ton of people coming after

you yeah guys before let's let's because the tiktok thing is a big deal for health and fitness what what was sent to us this morning but before we let's, let's, cause the Tik TOK thing is a big deal for health and fitness. What, what was sent to us this morning, but before we get to that, let's quickly address this Rogan thing because it's, it's, it's kind of important to understand. Um, number one, that super cut of Rogan using the N word has been out for a long time. Let's not be naive to this. People don't like how Rogan has a lot of people on and he has long conversations about topics. He gets more views than the typical news, right? And they don't like that guy having that type of power. It's ironic that it's Black History Month and this suddenly comes out in February. It's ironic. And I can understand some of the outrage because when I hear that word coming out of a white dude's mouth, it kind of sucks, right? So emotionally,

it's going to hit black people emotionally. It's going to hit us emotionally when we just hear it. So there's already a little bit of discomfort there. But context actually is important within that because every time the guy was using the word, it wasn't, he was calling you up. He was using it like, Oh,

they said blank. But instead of saying they said the N word, it's he used the word. Now he also addressed the planet of the apes thing. But again, as much of it was, it was the dumbest joke. Okay.

What he, what he said about planet of the apes, it was, it was a stupid fucking joke. It really was. But afterwards, context contextually he was still like he he said that it was bad in that specific clip and then he also said how he had the best time you know watching that movie with those people in that community so this dude isn't fucking racist but the clip comes out now it's black history month the other side really

doesn't like rogan having that much power this shit is they're they're trying to make a narrative they're trying to label him as a racist and they're probably going to try to find something else in a few months to label him as this and this and this to get the dude canceled and hopefully people don't totally just buy into it because that clip looked like – that clip looked bad. It really did. I think Joe Rogan is – he's like a pioneer. I think he's like – I think he's revolutionary in a lot of ways. Like his show that he started off of like smoking pot and like talking to his friends while he's high and having a good time has been responsible for communicating a lot of great things to people. It helped increase the activity in jujitsu, which you might think, oh, well, what's the big deal with that?

Well, it's exercise. People need to exercise. People need to strengthen their body, mind, and spirit. He's done so much for low-car, keto style diets, longevity. I mean, just the amount of guests that he's had on talking about a lot of the things that we talk about here. They're just spinoffs of stuff we've heard on Joe Rogan many, many times over. And all the other podcasts are just spinoffs of a lot of things that Joe Rogan has really done just a ridiculously amazing job. So I actually think that he, it's hard to like really figure out

who you can look up to these days. But after meeting him and feeling like I know him pretty well and I know people that are in his inner circle, I've never, I have legitimately never heard anyone say anything bad about Joe Rogan. That doesn't mean that he's never done anything bad. I'm just saying I believe that he's a person that I can put some value in towards looking up to,

especially when it comes to things like work ethic. And he seems like an amazing family man. Again, we don't know what goes on behind closed doors, but he's got four kids. He's got a wife. He seems like he's got a lot of that stuff figured out and he, he seems pretty awesome to me. Yeah. People, when people just like, again, people disagree with somebody they'd like to just,

they like to, when something happens, people want to dog pile without using critical thinking. And especially in this specific situation with how ugly that video is, people really need to think critically. How is this being used to shape my thoughts towards this individual? Because there are certain parts of the media that want you to hate this dude and they want you to label him as a racist or as a – what's – when you hate trans people. Homophobic. Homophobic. But there's specific one when you hate trans people? Homophobic. Homophobic. But there's a specific one where you hate trans people. I'll just say transphobic.

Well, yeah. Transphobic. He's been labeled as a transphobe before too. And he's not, it's like people just try to throw that shit at people and it's disgusting. It's disgusting. It just sounds so ridiculous to like, you hate someone cause they're, because they're gay. Like you hate, it makes sense to like disagree

with somebody on what they're doing or what their choices are. And it makes sense to say, oh man, I could just never see that for me. Or if you, yeah, you think it's odd, right? I mean, it's like, okay, well maybe it actually is a little bit odd because maybe a lower percentage of people

choose that route. So maybe it's not the norm. I don't think you're trying to be – but what doesn't make sense is to like go after or attack or harm or hurt or some of the things we heard from World's Strongest Gay when we had him on the podcast. Him and his husband have had people throw stuff at them. I mean that's like yell shit out the window i mean can you imagine like you're you're you're walking down the street with your girlfriend and you're holding her hand and they yell heterosexual like you know what i mean like you're fucking hetero yeah it just doesn't make like none of that it just like that sounds so ridiculous right

but that's what we're doing when we're kind of being discrimin It just, like that sounds so ridiculous, right? But that's what we're doing when we're kind of being discriminatory towards this like one way of thinking or living your life. I mean, if people are happy, I mean, how is it encroaching or infringing upon you? Yeah, it's not. What I was going to say is like somebody broke it down on on twitter like a whole timeline of everything about all these things coming one after another because you say like oh how convenient it's black history month we're gonna put out this like or highlight this n-word reel well all this stuff happened at the perfect time first it was like the misinformation or whatever and then the government all of a sudden wants to shut them down and And then even the first guy, the musician, old guy.

Oh. Yeah, who he got. Something. He has a name. Neil. Young. Young. Neil Young.

That came out at the right time, and he happens to be sponsored by a certain company that has some vested interest in making sure that the medicines are still being put into people and there's just a lot of things where it's like india arie who i love her music she she before this she took all her music off because of the the uh the super cut of joe using the n word you know and it's just it's unfortunate but what this guy broke down he was just like if you're curious how this actually all went down this is why and he breaks it down each day like what's going on and how like different people are attacking him all at once or not at once but like at the perfect time yeah so it's just like damn like he really is making a huge impact if he has like an all-out

fucking full court press on him right now it's fucking crazy all of us need to go back into our libraries in terms of the things that we've put on facebook instagram and youtube and we need to audit because to be perfectly honest it doesn't matter if if you're someone who's well known you better go check that shit out but honestly in the future if you're even if you're not doing stuff on media right you still need to be careful about the shit you say because there's going to be a point where that stuff is going to be looked up for when you're trying to apply for a job, when you're trying to do anything.

There's going to be an easier way for people to dig up the shit that you've said or blurbed in the past because right after The Rock started flaming Joe Rogan, people found when the rock said that tranny thing on his twitter and it's like bruh it's but it contextually back then people could make people it wasn't weird making those jokes and we get how those jokes are wrong now but guys like even if something's ugly we gotta look at context th context. Thomas Jefferson or Abraham Lincoln, like those guys, the leaders of the country back then, many of them were slave owners.

And although like that is horrible, like that can't even be excused. But we need to understand contextually back then as horrible as slavery was, that was part of the norm of building America. Well, and do you think that Abraham Lincoln had extra love in his heart for people that were black? And he, yeah, Abraham Lincoln tried to abolish. Well, yeah, or is it a political matter? And he's the president of the United States and he's got to make a decision that he feels is maybe in the best interest of the country, but also in the best interest of himself.

There's that flip side. You're totally right. I mean, it's, you know, it's, who knows how he, you know, who knows how he felt. It's hard to know. I think we just place way too much value in people independently. So whether you're talking about an influencer or, I mean, influencer, like that's way too strong of a word.

But it's the truth. But it is the truth. I know. influencer. Like, that's way too strong of a word. But it's the truth. But it is the truth. I know. Yeah. I know. You were an influencer. I know. Like, it sucks to say.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Well, and the people that I have the most, like, influence over, I'm so comfortable with that. The people that are close to me, the people that know me. influence over, I'm so comfortable with that. The people that are close to me, the people that know me. And so I almost feel like I could go out and say just about anything because of how strong and secure I feel within my own inner circle. But I know that I can't. Don't worry, Andrew, don't

worry. Andrew's like ready to hit the button. I know that I can't, but do you guys know what I mean? Like I feel so comfortable like with my own family and with some of my own friends that I know that I can communicate with you guys in whatever way I need to. And then if I do fuck up, just like any one of us, we can go back and say, hey, man, I didn't fuck, dude. I didn't mean to say it that way. I wasn't trying to bum you out and realize that that was such a hot-button topic for you. Or whatever it is, right?

You can go back and communicate further. But I think that the influence that people have over people is too great. But we're going to see it continue to increase because there's so many people out there with hundreds of thousands of millions of followers. And these followers, they get so into the exact words the guy says. But if I'm listening to Thomas DeLauer and I'm getting nutritional information, I'm not overly concerned with how he runs the rest of his life or where he spends his money. how he runs the rest of his life or where he spends his money. If I'm a huge fan of Christian Guzman, I'm not going to be, you know,

I'm influenced by him because I love his nutrition style. But now I'm all pissed off because he bought a new car or something like that. You know what I mean? So our value assignment to people, I think, is a little too high. And the stuff that you can get from people and get kind of out of people, which is kind of a shitty way to word it, but that's the way that you should kind of view it. And if you can't get much more, like I'm not worried about how The Rock lives his life,

but I want to follow The Rock's shit because it's motivating. To me, it's motivating. I find some value in checking out his page and seeing, fuck, man, he already trained today or whatever it is, and then maybe i get my butt moving for the day yeah i think you you had mentioned it in the past about like social media and everything will come with like a warning label you know like the skull and bones crossed out and all that stuff um i think who knows if that'll ever happen but

in that label it should also say like you know what you just said, like, you're going to take Thomas DeLauer's info for like this, this info right here, right now, just because we've had people like in the comment section, talk about the podcast and be like, Oh my God, I can't believe you guys are drinking water out of a bottle. You guys are killing the environment, blah, blah, blah. I'm like, there's a lot more plastic around us than that water bottle. That water bottle is probably the best thing that you're looking at right now. So it's funny that like people will find the one thing to be mad at, but it's also like, okay, if you don't like the way we do it, don't do it the way we do it. Yeah.

Have a fucking mind of your own. Another thing is people aren't giving individuals the ability to change. Like none of us are the same individual we were 10 years ago or 10 years before that. So it's like if something was done 10 years ago, but this is who I am now, and you bring up something from 10 years ago, it's like, hey, okay, that was a mistake, but I'm not that person anymore, and I know that was wrong. And it's really disgusting

how it's like, we got to give people the ability to change. If we just cancel people for something they did 12 years ago, what sense does that make? It's like, you're not even allowing that person a level of forgiveness. A second thing is we had Daryl Davis on this podcast twice. Daryl Davis is a black man who has disrobed more Ku Klux Klan members than anybody else by the simple act of conversation. Literally, having multiple conversations. Yeah, no fistfights, no jujitsu tournament for it, no guns, no knives. No, let's talk about why you believe what you believe. And the thing that he learned was these Klan members, many of them grew up in that environment where their mother and their father were Klan members, their cousins were Klan members. Everyone just thought black people were pieces of shit that didn't work and that were lazy. That was the norm. And they had no black people around to reference. So as a child being brought up in that setting, what are you going to believe about black people? people around to reference. So as a child being brought up in that setting, what are you going to believe about black people? Well, these are pieces of shit that don't work, blah, blah, blah. And then when you actually meet one who's reasonable, who's willing to have a conversation, who's

willing to actually talk to you about why you believe that and give you examples about what, what the reason why, what you believe is wrong. Oh, wow. Black people aren't so bad. Here, take my robe and take my cone hat like come on dude you see that is grace right there that is that is something that people need to be willing to do but people nowadays people don't have that level of fucking grace people don't have that level of critical thinking and lack of looking at things with emotion that they're not willing to have a conversation with someone who doesn't believe the same things that they believe and they just want to cancel them when i was in hawaii they uh the one of the tour guides um was talking about how they wouldn't allow their own native tongue to be spoken or taught in school for

like a few decades i believe um i forget like he so he was like i'm not going to even mention why because it gets into like too many different things and so i asked, so he was like, I'm not going to even mention why because it gets into, like, too many different things. And so I asked him separately. I was like, you know, why did that happen? And his explanation was they really, the powers that be, the people that were trying to take over the island, they wanted the islanders to appear to be dumb. And so they didn't have literacy. They weren't able to, they still were able to obviously speak their native tongue, but they were not allowing it being taught in school. Instead, they weren't getting the same education either.

It wasn't like, oh, you're not allowed to speak that, so you're going to learn to speak English. They weren't getting hardly any education. So, I mean, we've seen acts like this, you know, over many, many years of people doing things like this to try to rule. And so they'll try to say certain things. It's easier if I just say that you're lazy and that, you know, if I throw these things at a particular race or say these things a particular way, then maybe people will think that I'm better and I'm more suited for the job or whatever it is. These are kind of the stupid things that have been going on forever. And hopefully over time, hopefully we can start to kind of squeeze some of those things out. And I think that the editing and the auditing of our own language has been useful over

the years. I remember being in high school and I saw a fight and there was a black kid and there was a white guy, right? There was a couple white dudes that kind of jumped in so I jumped in and broke a lot of it up and me and my brother helped

and we knew the black kid so we were like, let's, you know, he's, a fight is one thing. Hey, if it's one-on-one then you guys, yeah, you guys got into this

mess you know you can get each other out of it or whatever however they however it works out once i saw other people jump in but like the n-word was used and stuff and i from that day i was like i mean i was probably like 15 or 16 i knew better than to use that word anyway but i was like you know what under no circumstances am i ever going to use that word ever again there's just like i saw what it did i saw the consequences of it and I didn't like it. And I, I just, I thought the whole situation was gross. And so maybe for other people, maybe they haven't had that experience. Maybe they've been brought up into being racist or thinking those words are okay. And maybe they just never. So a lot of it is like, man, you wish that people weren't so,

like the only thing you can think of is like, I wish people weren't so dumb, but they're not necessarily just dumb. They just never really been taught anything else. They've been influenced to go in a slightly different direction. But you know, do you?

No, you're good. Okay. Things have gotten so weird where people are really like people now. It's like we're trying. We have to overcorrect at some point because have you guys heard of Awkwafina? Not the water, the actress, the Asian-American actress. I haven't. No, no. Awkwafina was born in Queens.

Okay. She grew up in Queens and in her area, she was around a lot of black people. Right. So with that being said, growing up around a lot of people, she has certain inflections and tones that are typical to black people. Like she's like, she, she's got a little bit of hood in her or just, or just what if someone's really light skinned, like really light skinned and they use that word and then you're like, but no, it's not even her. She didn't even use the word. She speaks with, she, she, she, she talks kind of like a black person, but it's because of who she was around. Right now, people are trying to come after her for the way she speaks. And it's not even that she's trying to speak that way. She just grew up around it right um and it's like how can

y'all really try now canceling somebody for their upbringing what the fuck is she supposed to do it's not her fault it's like it's like it and and i heard this from um this this guy akash sing from from from this pod from i think the joe rogan podcast with him with a coach for him getting on the show dude i know and he just had this special he's fucking hilarious but he mentioned something that i never really thought about in in america things are kind of like when people look at america they typically think black and white even though there are so many other races around right if you grow up around certain people it's like akash for example he mentioned that okay uh

when i was when i was in school and shit you know people like i had a problem with like white kids and stuff but i hung around a lot of black kids and you know my i started being interested in shoes and this and this so i started being interested in hip-hop culture and that has come into my speech and even even him, people ask him, why are you talking black? It's like, he's not talking black. It was like,

that's his upbringing. You know what I mean? And it's just, it's really weird how people really just try to, I don't know, other people or say, Oh, that's my culture.

I'm on. Why are you using my culture like that? Like, yo, this is a fucking melting pot at this point. And we're going to have Asian people who are, who are culture like that like yo this is a fucking melting pot at this point and we're gonna have asian people who are who are talking like black people and we're gonna have some white people that do the same thing like eminem he didn't try that shit he grew up around a lot of black people right right so it's just really weird how people are now policing people's

inflection and all that shit that's just the way they're brought up i gotta send you this dope song from uh merce it's called uh dark-skinned white girl and it's uh amazing because he he gives up he gives two examples uh a white girl who grew up around black people so he says uh what did he say he's like uh she's so white to the bone but you would swear she was black if you spoke on the phone. I know some white girls like that, though. But it's so funny. And he was like, you know, she'll like roll her eyes, twist her neck, some other shit, blah, blah, blah. But she don't mean no disrespect. But it's so funny.

I'll send it to you because that's just what it reminded me of. It's so good. Yeah, I think that you're going to take on whomever you're around a lot of times. And then if you think about, if you see one of your old buddies that you haven't seen since high school, well, there may have been a weird particular way

that you talked when you talked with those people. Maybe you talked in a higher-pitched voice or did something silly just because you're, I don't know, just because you're homies, just because you're friends. You talked in some weird way, and now you find yourself talking that same way or if I go back. Code switching. That's the technical term. Code switching.

Yeah, there you go. Yeah. I didn't know there was a technical term to it. But even if I'm like talking with, you know, friends from New York and I start, then a little bit more the accent will pop out. Or if Andrew's to even, If Andrew's to even say his baby's name, he's going to say it. Andrew could be talking 1,000 miles an hour, and he could be like, I had to sick workouts, listen to this killer music. I was having such a good time. And if he says his baby's name, boom, it will instantly have, because he's going to say it lighter, his eyes will probably light.

You can't undo some of these things that happen. You know, there's certain things that happen. And so I think we just have to recognize so many, all of us have such different experiences with so many different people over the years that if we talk enough, we're going to fuck up. We're going to mess up what we say. And some of my message, you know, in the fitness realm, I'm never trying to hurt anybody. Never, ever trying to hurt anybody. What I am trying to do is to try to assist people with double talking themselves. Like where you claim that you want to do one thing and then you consistently talk yourself out of it.

And the reason why I want to assist people with that is you consistently talk yourself out of it. And the reason why I want to assist people with that is I find myself doing that a lot. Like I battle myself every day. I'm like, I say this thing, I say one thing and then I go do another. And I'm like, or if I go to do the thing that I'm, that I wanted to do, I don't put in the effort I wanted to. And I'm like, damn it. Why did I, I did that. But that was like a six out of 10. Like I wanted the effort I wanted to and I'm like damn it why did I I did that but that was like a 6 out of 10 like I wanted to I wanted to be more like an 8 or a 9 for the day and so

that's the kind of so I might misspeak here and there and I might say something about I might I might say something like you got to stop being so fat right and I'm not trying to I'm not trying to isolate I'm not trying to isolate. I'm not trying to put people into a category of like,

I'm not trying to divide people out. But I think that most people, for the most part, would know what I'm talking about when I say, you got to stop being so fat. Meaning, let's try to stop some of the noise around the bad habits that you've created that are leading to excess body weight on yourself. I'm not trying to say, oh my God, how funny is this?

Look how fat this person's belly is or whatever. I'm not trying to do anything remotely close to that. So when I speak a certain way or say certain things, I also grew up in a powerlifting community where with a bunch of dudes and that's all we ever talk about is how fat we are like oh my god you look so fat your face is so fucking fat and you were very fat oh yeah my face was huge and the bigger my face got the stronger i got so it was all part of the lingo yeah part of the way we talked and you use fat the way like because we

were talking about it earlier about like we everybody just used the word gay it was just like oh they're like you don't be gay or like like that's gay whatever it was but it wasn't even necessarily like talking about like some a thing being homophobic like uh uh you know whatever um being actually not homophobic what's the the fuck, just being, being negative, being, yeah, just being, yeah, discriminatory, there you go, yeah, but so, like, when you say don't be fat, like, you've told me don't be fat when I've, like, I don't know, done, like, a photo shoot or something, and I was, like, oh, dude, I gotta, I got so much things going on, I can't, I can't produce it till, or I can't send it over for a couple days, and you're, like, dude, don't be fat, it's, like,

fuck, you're right, okay, like, if something is subpar, you're,. And you're like, dude, don't be fat. It's like, fuck you're right. Okay. Like if something is subpar, you're like, that's fat. Like, don't be fat. Don't be subpar. Yeah.

Accumulation of bad habits is the way that I kind of look at it. And maybe, you know, maybe the people that are listening right now are like, nah, you're wrong, dude. And that's,

that's okay. They can disagree with me. It's fine. And before we end, let's, let's go, let's circle back to tiktok because there's a misgendering ban so tiktok will ban dead naming and misgendering transgender people and then also the platform had already removed content promoting eating disorders but will now

target content promoting over exercise or short-term fasting all right so for those who don't know what dead naming and dead naming is if an individual is gay or a lesbian if somebody on the platform and they haven't come out right if somebody comes out and says you like and and dead names them i think that's what it is um that's obviously problematic because you you can't you you shouldn't put somebody out before that if the audience people in the comments if i'm correct with dead naming please let me know because i problematic because you you can't you you shouldn't put somebody out before that if the audience people in the comments if i'm correct with dead naming please let me know because i think that's what it is but i could be totally wrong right now but i think that's what it is yeah if you could look up dead naming andrew that that'd be helpful and then misgendering people is

like if you identified as female but you were biologically male and i call you call a transgender person by their birth name when they have changed their name as part of their gender transition god so if you called if you called what's what's uh janae no that or jenner who's but not you just dead named see that scene but what is his name what is her name now what is her name now and guys i'm not even i'm not trying to do this to be funny um i'm not trying to but you see how like i can make mistakes i'm not doing this to be funny like and maybe if you were like 10 years younger maybe you wouldn't make those mistakes because it might be programmed in a little bit better you know what i mean yeah because you're more you're caitlin caitlin

you're closer to it you know and you guys see how frustrating this is so this is the problem without context everything that i just did especially with how quick tiktok can be and how contextually things aren't always seen tiktok could just ban you like that right we're learning this new aspect of culture should they be able to no dude like because some people if okay this is a thing i don't think people should be banned but also there are still some people out there who are quite literally mean about this shit and they're just like i can't believe these trans people are doing this like you're you're a You're not like, it's not that difficult if someone identifies as a female to try and just honor that person, honor that person's, um, uh, like feelings about themselves and

their, their, the belief about themselves and just say, she don't call somebody that identifies as a female. He, if they are now, she don't do that. That's just mean it's one change and it's going to take effort on all of our parts, right? It's going to like, cause I just made a whole fuck up right now on the mic, but it wasn't on purpose.

But also like understand that people are going to mess up the way we all just did. Yes. Don't go insane. Like we're trying. Okay. Like some people would immediately say and seem as transphobic yep there are some people who would really be who would really say some shit like that but we are learning how to

it's like the the integration of people who are trans because that's a very small amount of the part of the population but the integration of this change of language is something that we're all getting used to and people still make mistakes sometimes innocently you know what i mean so the idea that people will just be banned for that and tiktok is quick with that shit that's wild and then the fasting thing it's just it's crazy i think uh it'd be helpful too if we weren't so uh if we if we weren't so moved off of equanimity based on a word. I don't know what it's like to be black. I don't know what it's like to be Mexican. I don't know what it's like to be you guys or have been brought up in your shoes.

So I don't know how I'd respond to some of these words that can be massively inflammatory. some of these words that can be massively inflammatory. All I can do is work on myself and work on what I say and work on my reactions to certain words. What I will say is that there's combinations of words or a combination of circumstances that can blow anybody off of equanimity. No matter your practice, no matter how much you practice, you could be a monk and still get moved off balance by a certain combination of something someone said.

And maybe certain types of people don't have any negative impact, but maybe somebody you're in a relationship with can just totally crush you. I think it's important that we practice and that we work on how much power do we give these words, especially when they're set out of hate. When it's set out of hate, when someone's hating on you and someone's trying to, I mean, all they're trying to do is they're, I mean, they want you to overreact to it. They want you to go that way. But like I said, I don't know. All I can do is control the words that I see and just to have them not have, you know, the same negative impact. I think it is interesting, though. Again, YouTube is like more direct.

Like YouTube actually pays you for like your views and stuff. I do think there has to be some type of censorship there does have to be you know can i just can i go on there and talk about how i fasted for 75 days and lost 125 pounds like i i don't know like i don't i'm not saying that i i think that you should be able to and i'm not even saying that i think that you shouldn't be able to um but that sounds like that sounds, what if it was like Kim Kardashian saying something like that? Like she's very influential, right? And what if other people saw that and that's how she gained success? That's how she had this beautiful body. The stuff about steroids, you know, people, again, I just think, look, if there's going to be money to be exchanged, if you're making money off this thing, then there's going to be someone in control. And when you think about TikTok,

I believe TikTok is owned by some like big company, right? Facebook is owned by, you know, some big company, right? But it's not, it's owned by a guy too, right? It's owned by like an individual dude that kind of sounds like he fucked a bunch of people over to get to the top, but that is the American way. And we've seen that happen many times over in this country where people, you know, rise to the top that way. And it's like, or even like a Jeff Bezos, like my son has made comments about Jeff Bezos before. Bezos before. And I'm like, Jake, when do you make the decision to hate on Jeff Bezos? Because he started his family business in his garage, in his household, the same way that mom and I started. So do you not like him when he made $100 million, when he made $200 million? Or was it when he started making billions that you didn't like him anymore? know or it's hard to know we don't even know we don't even know anything about half of these people so i don't know there's probably

not a lot of reasons to uh overthink it but i do think that once there's a money exchange that i do think that they're someone is always going to be able to censor it they censor tv all the time they're not allowed to do certain things or say certain things on there. And the platforms that we have access to that give us a voice, there's going to be censorship on there as well. Yeah. Everybody always wants to know like, oh, where do we draw the line? Like, you know, you just said like, oh, if I say I fasted for 125 days and I lost weight, like I would say that's going to be over the line. But then, you know, you have guys on TikTok saying they do like insane amounts of trend. And somehow, I don't know if that's still okay.

That's still okay. So what I was going to say is like, there is a line, but that fucking... That's because of me. I voted trend in. There you go. But that line is going to move all the time depending on what the topic is. So we cannot... So I think we do need the censorship, but we,

there's no way we can blanket statement. Nope. You can't talk about, uh, intermediate, intermediate, intermittent fasting. Yeah.

It's like, no, you can, as long as you do it the right way. And what's the right way? Well, we have to see it. We don't know.

We don't know. And when it comes to like homophobic stuff or trans stuff, sometimes like where our minds jump to, um, I think that especially like years ago people would think like if someone's gay like i don't want them hitting on me or something it's like it don't don't fucking flatter yourself i still know people like that yeah i still know people like i don't want some dude grabbing my ass or whatever right i grab both of your asses when i talk about how gay we are people get so weirded out we are we are very gay world's strongest gay told us that

we're very gay i mean i'm sorry what's going off one of the best compliments you could ever receive is if a gay dude checks you out because you're just like fuck yeah dude i got something on point i got game yeah but then like the transgender stuff like a lot of times people are thinking about like the restroom you know like what do we do like in the in the bathroom and you would think that men and women can go to can use a bathroom equally but uh it's not a good idea. I mean, the testosterone that men have running through their bodies and the things that we've seen men do to women in the past, it just doesn't, it's probably not appropriate.

You know, it's probably inappropriate. So there are certain things, but it's like, Hey, look, we're just talking about like one hurdle, you know?

And then people are thinking about the sign on the fucking bathroom. And it's like, how about it just says like restroom? You know what I mean? And maybe it's one person it just says like restroom you know what i mean and maybe it's one person at a time or something i'm not sure how to solve these problems that dude that right there though there's that that actually is quite a hurdle there have been multiple stories and the one that comes to mind right now was it was a bathhouse setting right where there was a men's side and there's a woman's side and on the woman's side

there are these women and they also had a little girl like their daughter and uh somebody that identified as a female came in took the towel off and was just walking around with their penis out and the mother the the the child saw it i i'm wish you could find the story and put in the link because i don't i don't want people to think i'm just making some shit up the the the child saw it i i'm wish you could find the story and put it in the link because i don't i don't want people to think i'm just making some shit up the the the girl saw it and the mother complained to the front desk said hey okay this there's there's all these women in here there's little girls in here and these little girls are now seeing a penis they shouldn't have to see a penis even though this individual you know identifies it so that is a problem that needs to be solved because that's not okay and the front desk was like

there's really nothing we can do about this because that's current that's how they identify like that is a problem yeah right so these are the things that society as society like we're gonna have to figure out in these types of situations how do we handle this because apparently that individual too, you see this, this hung like a horse, at least that individual that did that has also had reports of doing that at other places. So this was,

this was purposeful and people are going to take that story and then blanket that across trans people in general, like trans, like most trans people aren't doing that to be egregious see like that's that was quite literally malicious a malicious use of identifying and maybe he was trans she was trans see fucked up again but that shit can't happen that shit cannot happen again where does the line where do you draw the line you fucking figuring it out you can't with that shit like there's good good luck yeah holy fuck and then yeah sports i mean it just yeah yeah he starts to bring up all kinds of crazy stuff take us on out of here andrew all right thank you everybody for checking out today's episode uh please drop us some nice

comments down below don't uh yeah don't hate on each other please and uh please follow the podcast at mark bells power project on instagram at at MB Power Project on TikTok and Twitter. Make sure you guys subscribe here. Turn on all the notifications. My Instagram and Twitter is at I am Andrew Z in SEMA. Where can people find you? Also, real quick, guys, comment down below about what we've been talking about here. The Joe Rogan situation, all the the the misgendering thing on TikTok, all of this stuff.

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Yeah. It's something I put, like, a layer underneath or something, and I'm good to go even when it's, like, 30 degrees. Yeah, I'm just getting prepped for Ohio. Oh, yeah. Like, I need to get all kinds. I don't have warm clothes. Yeah, yeah.

Got to break out that Kuyu jacket, right? Yeah, yeah. I outgrew it. Oh, that's right. Yeah. There we go. Stephanie's wearing it now. But yeah, links to Viore down in the description because I know it's kind of hard to spell

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