Mark Bell's Power Project - MBPP EP. 677 - How To Use Your Mind To Control Stress & Weight Loss

Episode Date: February 16, 2022

We've been telling you about the power of your belief system, the impact of negative self talk, and the mental side of achieving your goals for a while now. Today we dive into a Ted Talk from Dr. Alia... Crum where she shows examples of test subjects changing their health outcomes solely based off of what they believe to be true, despite no change at all. Check out the full Ted Talk from Dr. Alia Crum here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0tqq66zwa7g&t=936s Special perks for our listeners below! ➢https://markbellslingshot.com/ Code POWERPROJECT for 15% off site wide including Within You supplements! ➢https://eatlegendary.com Use Code POWERPROJECT for 20% off! ➢Bubs Naturals: https://bubsnaturals.com Use code POWERPROJECT for 20% of your next order! ➢Vertical Diet Meals: https://verticaldiet.com/ Use code POWERPROJECT for 20% off your first order! ➢Vuori Performance Apparel: Visit https://vuoriclothing.com/powerproject to automatically save 20% off your first order! ➢8 Sleep: Visit https://www.eightsleep.com/powerproject to automatically save $150 off the Pod Pro! ➢Marek Health: https://marekhealth.com Use code POWERPROJECT10 for 10% off ALL LABS! Also check out the Power Project Panel: https://marekhealth.com/powerproject Use code POWERPROJECT for $101 off! ➢Piedmontese Beef: https://www.piedmontese.com/ Use Code POWER at checkout for 25% off your order plus FREE 2-Day Shipping on orders of $150 Subscribe to the Podcast on on Platforms! ➢ https://lnk.to/PowerProjectPodcast Subscribe to the Power Project Newsletter! ➢ https://bit.ly/2JvmXMb Follow Mark Bell's Power Project Podcast ➢ Insta: https://www.instagram.com/markbellspowerproject ➢ https://www.facebook.com/markbellspowerproject ➢ Twitter: https://twitter.com/mbpowerproject ➢ LinkedIn:https://www.linkedin.com/in/powerproject/ ➢ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/markbellspowerproject ➢TikTok: http://bit.ly/pptiktok FOLLOW Mark Bell ➢ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/marksmellybell ➢ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/MarkBellSuperTraining ➢ Twitter: https://twitter.com/marksmellybell ➢ Snapchat: marksmellybell ➢Mark Bell's Daily Workouts, Nutrition and More: https://www.markbell.com/ Follow Nsima Inyang ➢ https://www.breakthebar.com/learn-more ➢YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/NsimaInyang ➢Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/nsimainyang/?hl=en ➢TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@nsimayinyang?lang=en Follow Andrew Zaragoza on all platforms ➢ https://direct.me/iamandrewz #PowerProject #Podcast #MarkBell

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Starting point is 00:00:00 concoction mixing it up over there yeah he said concoction youtube he didn't say the other word chin chin cock chin cock chin what is it shindo yeah what's it called a chin yo what do you guys think of upside down 50 cent people oh my God. He got blasted hard, right? People were being mean to 50. I fucking hate people. They were like, 50 Cent turned into a dollar.
Starting point is 00:00:32 Like, he's getting a little older. Let this man put on a little bit of body fat. Maybe he's been bodybuilding. Maybe he's in a bulk. Maybe, but also how many people would even be able to hang upside down like that and not have all the blood rush to their head and pass out? Get the fuck out of here. I think just about anybody's going to look fat upside down like that and not like have all the blood rushed to their head and like pass out i think just about anybody's gonna look fat upside down yeah yeah but also as you mix that up i wanted because i saw a post and somebody was like hey 50 cent is never gonna see your mean tweets about his weight gain but somebody who might be actually struggling with weight gain
Starting point is 00:01:02 is gonna see your posts, and that might bring them down. So just be careful and watch what you say because you don't know who's listening. Because 50 isn't even in bad shape, man. No, dude. I don't even know how old he is, but... But he was kind of like repping that LL Cool J body back in the day.
Starting point is 00:01:18 Dude, he was jacked. So if someone like LL Cool J, if he gains like 20 pounds, people are going to be like... Yeah. You know, The Rock, John Cena, any of pounds, people are going to be like, mm-hmm. Yeah. You know, The Rock, John Cena, any of these guys that are just fucking yoked out of their minds, they start to lose their physique. Everyone's going to be like, oh, man, they're getting older.
Starting point is 00:01:34 Like The Rock, he still looks amazing. He just won't age. I don't know what's going on with him. People love to hate, too, because people were like really- The second a guy gets some wrinkles, people are going to be like, oh, my God, look how old he's getting. Yeah. It's like, well, he people were like really— The second a guy gets some wrinkles, people are going to be like, oh, my God, how old he's getting. Yeah. It's like, well, he's like—
Starting point is 00:01:47 Get one gray hair. People were really dissing The Rock's intro, too, to the whole Super Bowl. I didn't watch the Super Bowl, by the way. I just saw, like, the halftime show. You've heard about it one time. Read about it. Yeah, and The Rock's intro. But people were like, why did he do that?
Starting point is 00:02:00 That sucks so much. Why did people—I don't get it. I kind of missed it. I don't know what happened, like why people got mad. It was just him doing an intro. He did like a wrestling promo. It was great. Yeah, at the beginning.
Starting point is 00:02:11 But some people were like, oh, that was the lamest thing I've ever seen. Like I saw that from the Hodge twins. I was like, guys, come on now. People just get super judgmental. It's The Rock and people are real judgmental about what he's wearing. He was wearing some weird kind of pants that looked like dress pants slash joggers. Yo, that style looked good, though. Like, this is the thing.
Starting point is 00:02:30 He looks good in anything. Yeah. I saw some guy comment, like some scrawny white dude comment, I would get caught dead wearing that. Like, brother, you can't even rock that. Get the fuck out of here. Yeah, you can't. That's so good.
Starting point is 00:02:41 Yeah. You can't pull it off. Oh, my God. But he was wearing two different shades of the same color, which is also interesting. I think it's just a statement. He's like, fuck y'all.
Starting point is 00:02:49 I could wear whatever I want. I'm the rock. I'm the motherfucking rock. When you look like that, I mean, shit, come on now. You can wear whatever you want. I don't think any of the ladies out there are like,
Starting point is 00:02:58 oh, my God, he looks so dumb in his outfit. I don't think they're like going to sweat it, right? We're going to have some people in the audience say, y'all are sucking Dwayne's dick again.
Starting point is 00:03:07 Let's talk positively about it. I like Dwayne Johnson. We like him. If we had the opportunity. Yeah. Absolutely. Right? Yeah, why not? Where are my knee pads? I've got to pour this.
Starting point is 00:03:24 What did you mix up? What is this? All right. So we were talking about the- You're always sophisticated with these mixtures that you're making over here. It's like you're fucking turning into like a chemist over here. What else are you mixing up? Oh, baby.
Starting point is 00:03:36 So it's within you vanilla protein. Oh, my. Bubz MCT. And within you salted caramel. Oh, my goodness. Baby, baby. Oh, my goodness. Baby, baby. Oh, my God. And some coffee.
Starting point is 00:03:47 And I did this over the weekend because I told you guys I was going to do this, and it tasted amazing. The bubs and coffee on its own is good, but the bubs, some whey, and some electrolytes, it just— You got everything in there. electrolytes it just got everything in there eggplant emoji with squirts squirt squirt ah so good man and did you do a whole packet of the hydration uh i did a half packet of hydration but i've done a whole packet of hydration before and it's good yeah it's good oh the salted caramel specifically guys don't do the blueberry one in this i wonder what that would taste like you should try it and maybe in some tea or something though you know i always i always keep you guys like out of stuff for a while right until like i do it for a little while and then i then i inform you guys down the road because i don't want you
Starting point is 00:04:37 guys to pass me up too much on too many different things i've been sipping on this bub stuff for about two years. I got to come clean. We just found out about it a few months ago, and you've been on this for a minute. Oh, my goodness. Dr. Lyon, she hooked me up, and they have amazing products. The MCT oil powder is amazing in coffee. People that want to maybe, I don't know, just switch to something different. Putting cream in your coffee can taste amazing.
Starting point is 00:05:09 But MCT oil is a medium-chain triglyceride. And the fat energy is a little bit more available, a little bit more readily available to turn into energy, supposedly from some of the science on medium-chain triglycerides. It's kind of why they're popular. And then also people like some of the brain effects of MCct oil it's been popularized by bulletproof coffee where you put mct oil and butter in your coffee and people love the uh some of the effects and impacts on that it also will mute some of that boldness of your coffee maybe some people like that but i actually love that it kind of mutes that a little bit and just pulls
Starting point is 00:05:41 some of that flavor of it out of there yeah what, what I noticed is that when I have the MCT oil powder in it, it just, I don't know, I don't get hungry until like dinnertime, like fairly easily. There's a lot of times where like, I mean, we have a lot of yummy stuff around us right now. We have some cool snacks and I'll reach for them. But like when I have the MCT oil powder from Bubz, I'm good. Like I can stay focused. I don't know if that's like a side effect, but I definitely,
Starting point is 00:06:07 uh oh, what's happening here? What I'm going to do next, the next time, is I'm going to do, that's a grand slam, a scoop of the Bubz collagen for collagen protein because it's unflavored
Starting point is 00:06:19 and you got the benefits of collagen, which is really good for your joints, ligaments and shit. I'm going to do half a scoop or potentially a scoop of the within you because you get the vanilla flavor. The bubs is like the MCT oil powder is like a creamer. And then the, ooh. I'm so excited, bro. I'm excited.
Starting point is 00:06:43 This is going to be good. I'm just thankful that you're in.'m just thankful that you're into fitness. And that you're into eating these healthy things because you would be the fattest person I ever met. Bro, that's why I'm pretty sure. That's why I played soccer when I was younger because I was eating so much food. Your voice changes when you start talking about food. Your eyes light up. It gets all fired up over there.
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Starting point is 00:07:42 What do we got today? What are we talking about? Not practice, that's for sure. Oh, we were talking about 50 cent being upside down so like what was 50 cents body fat back in the day you think probably like 10 yeah i would say 10 to 12 yeah 10 11 yeah because he was he was he was big well i mean i've never stood next to him at most it was so funny like when um the other rapper uh i I got pull him up on that album cover you know the album cover
Starting point is 00:08:07 I'm talking about LL Cool J is pretty big right isn't he like 6'3 or 6'4 or something like that he's not tall no
Starting point is 00:08:12 see that's what I was getting at I thought I've heard that he was tall I'll check but that's what I was getting at I was telling my wife because I can't remember the other rapper
Starting point is 00:08:19 that was a part of that fucking halftime show he's the newer one I don't know Kendrick Lamar Kendrick yeah there you go LL Cool J is 6'2
Starting point is 00:08:25 so you're right oh yeah he's big but what I was telling my wife I was like a lot of these rappers are a lot smaller than you think like DMX was really small
Starting point is 00:08:33 Ja Rule was fucking tiny Dr. Dre is 6'1 Method Man is 6'3 Busta Rhymes is 6'1 those are big boys those are big boys let me see I think it was
Starting point is 00:08:43 Get Rich or Die Trying damn Busta Rhymes he's fucking good even his most recent album people were kind of dissing it but it was still good it came it came out two years ago he's unbelievable yeah all these guys man they're so creative it's just man is it weird that in my head that 50 cent looked fucking gigantic compared to what i see right now i don't know i don't know if he was that big of a person but he he always looked like he was in shape get richard di trine all right so maybe 12 to the yeah he's on a cover like his other cover is like maybe a little more like done up i guess but that that looks i mean he looks
Starting point is 00:09:17 good right there he looks great yeah look man not everybody can play fitness bodybuilder powerlifter all day long some people they gotta make uh they gotta make some sick beats right like that's that's where his mind was at right yeah but he did look he you see we're warped man we're warped because we're around just like so his body fat percentage now is what 20 it's like 13 12 to 13 but like man what is he must be enjoying life right exactly while enjoying life you, doing his thing. He's probably got like private jet and shit.
Starting point is 00:09:47 He probably got access to all kinds of crap. Like, why not have some fun? But that halftime show, guys, that shit was actually like really good. It was cool.
Starting point is 00:09:55 Like, I wanted to put on a tall tee, sag my pants a little bit. Just, it brought me back to when I was younger, man. You could definitely still rock a tall tee
Starting point is 00:10:02 because you like the, like the Viore ones that are a little bit longer. I do, but I don't like them being too baggy. No, well, yeah, you're right. Yeah. But, yeah, 50 was yacked. Was there anything notable about, oh, you guys mentioned OBJ in the text thread.
Starting point is 00:10:18 That's wild. I went and watched a video about it. It's what you guys were talking about. Yeah, yeah. The go-to guys, when they were here they predicted it they were like we think he's going to get hurt again because he because of the type of training that he's doing you know some of the training that he's doing they're like well they just didn't agree with it what type of training was he doing um he's just doing stuff where that inside ankle bone is low and it's not high in accordance to uh what they're
Starting point is 00:10:41 talking about you know seeing these guys go down and seeing these athletes get hurt sucks. I'm a huge Odell Beckham Jr. fan. So, you know, it's just awful. Like, it could be a career ender. Like, he's getting a little older. He's already had such an illustrious, amazing career. He's unbelievable when it comes to, like, catching the fucking football. Like, he does not drop shit.
Starting point is 00:11:03 I haven't seen him do those one hand catches. It's crazy. I wonder if his hands are really big too. They must be. He does a lot of, he catches the ball a lot with one hand and he does like backflips and shit, man. He's insanely athletic.
Starting point is 00:11:15 But yeah, it's just showing. He also is a guy that wears a lot of slingshot products too. So I appreciate that from him as well. Yeah. But yeah, he, he went to make a cut on the field and it was a non-contact injury.
Starting point is 00:11:29 Like it wasn't anybody else around him. And he, I think he blew out the same knee that he unfortunately blew out a couple other times. Dang man. Yeah. And you know, a lot of people,
Starting point is 00:11:38 even like Nick, Nick Bosa of the Niners were saying that it's because of the turf. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, you because of the turf. Yeah, yeah. I mean, you can see the turf grabbed his foot. It just sucks because we want to see these guys play fast so they have a certain kind of turf, a certain kind of field they play on, and then you end up seeing injuries like this. Yeah, it was crazy.
Starting point is 00:12:03 Right when it happened, though, I looked at my wife, and I'm like inside ankle bone low. Yeah. And I pulled this one up, and then she's like, wow. And now I'm like, I used to think that this was just like, oh, fuck, he just has that nagging injury or like a freak accident again. Yeah. Well, I mean.
Starting point is 00:12:20 How preventable is it? Yeah, I don't want to sound like i know what the fuck i'm talking about because i've never been on the nfl field except for maybe watching but other than that like yeah i have no idea what i'm talking about so i'm not trying to be an authority but it is interesting when you have this new perspective of like i wonder if he was able to get you know a little bit more on the outside if it could have been prevented right right yeah maybe maybe by having different techniques i mean that's what we hope training can do yeah but maybe we don't know what the fuck we're talking about like you're saying because these athletes they're unbelievable and i think that training can have a real positive impact i mean you're starting to see
Starting point is 00:12:55 like the nfl the athletes in the nfl are insane they mentioned one guy that uh i forget which team it was but one of the guys on the field, they said he was 347 pounds. And they showed this dude, and I was like, that guy does not look like he's 347 pounds. He still looked fairly fit. And you mentioned Nick Bosa, and some of these guys,
Starting point is 00:13:16 it's incredible. And there's two of them. He has a brother. One of the tackles that was playing in the game, one of the offensive tackles, he's like 300 pounds. He's like 41 years old was playing in the game, one of the offensive tackles, he's like 300 pounds. He's like 41 years old and playing in the Super Bowl. That is fucking crazy.
Starting point is 00:13:30 Like I know Brady has – He said he's 300 pounds? Yeah, he's 300 plus pounds. I mean, could you imagine carrying – Is he a quarterback? No, no, no. This is an offensive tackle. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:13:39 I was like – Yeah, but imagine playing all those years in the trenches, on the line, in the NFL, and still being able to perform. He's still starting. Like, it's just these athletes are on a different level. Yeah. But then, like, I was talking to Gary about, you know, the Niners and stuff, and he was telling me about Fred Warner.
Starting point is 00:14:00 And when I watch him play, yeah, his feet are way out. And that guy just came back from injury also. But then you watch George Kittle, who's, you know, a little bit a little more in he's on inside ankle bone high and he's been very healthy so it's fucking wild like again i don't know shit but there's some dots there that you can connect and you know whatever take it take take whatever you want from it i know it's making a big difference for me i think it's making a big difference for you but we we do not move at those speeds. Nope. And we do not know how to make any moves like that. Hell no. Like those guys do.
Starting point is 00:14:28 I have a disappointing 50 Cent story. Maybe Andrew's heard it before. Maybe. But our boy, Charles Glass, one of the all-time great coaches, used to train 50 Cent. Oh. I got the opportunity to meet 50 Cent. I saw him at gold's gym i was like man man i i just i i i just i have to go and try to shake his hand like i gotta figure this out it's
Starting point is 00:14:54 fucking 50 cent i try to give people their space and stuff i've seen arnold in there and i've seen other people and i used to just give him a little like a little wave like hey I fucking acknowledge yeah I know that you're the fucking man type thing just that little thing but I try not to really bug people too much especially because they're in their training you know but I met 50 cent and he gave me the dead fish handshake what do you mean the dead fish handshake just the this that feels so that just feels so uncomfortable. I didn't know what to do with it. N.K.A. Ferrari. Oh, Jesus.
Starting point is 00:15:32 Matambo. Matambo was in the way. Damn. That was a rejection. All right, get back to your story. That light just fucking is waving its finger at you. Why are we continuing to talk about this? Could you please tell the story about the limp handshake?
Starting point is 00:15:44 Yeah, the limp handshake, the limp handshake man it was just wet noodle but then more recently i've been thinking about it more and because this happened like this happened like two decades ago probably but i've been thinking about it more recently and i'm like maybe that's just because he's got nothing to prove you know what i mean like Like, dude versus dude, you size each other up, and some guys will go in on you. Like, someone who's kind of big, like in SEMA, somebody might try to give him a real firm one. I hate those men.
Starting point is 00:16:14 I know. They're like, hi. And then they fucking crank your knuckles together. I'm like, dude, why? And then they wait for a response. They look at you in your eye like, is he flinching? Hey, what about when they do this? And they go, and they go and they just grab like your fingers they don't give you a chance you're like i didn't get a chance to get in there motherfucker you're like
Starting point is 00:16:31 we're gonna do a do-over bitch that's fucking bullshit that's not cool anyone can squeeze anyone's fingers together you fucking punk yeah oh my god yeah that's a real dick move but he's just like he didn't care he just came in and he's just like move But he's just like He didn't care He just came in And he's just like Hello Yeah he's just like I don't give a fuck What anyone
Starting point is 00:16:48 Yeah He's like I don't give a fuck What anyone thinks of me Oh my god Or He was just so fucking sore From the Charles Glass workout
Starting point is 00:16:57 That he couldn't grip his head And that's probably More the truth Charles Glass whipped his ass Could be Yeah I recommend you guys Go listen to Guess who's back it was a mixtape slash album which is kind of fucking weird because like i i genuinely think that he just like didn't give a fuck and just stole people's beats
Starting point is 00:17:15 like and he's put it out because i remember i bought this in woodland california so like it couldn't have been a mixtape if i bought it in a store but yet on that mixtape there's like other people's beats so i don't even know how that fucking worked out but it's called guess who's back it came out right before get rich or die trying and you hear mixtape 50 and he's fucking incredible like wanksta 50 cent is not the same as like the 50 cent that i like uh listened to back in the day eminem back in the day said that he saw 50 Cent record a double album and he still had more material. Could have kept going.
Starting point is 00:17:49 He just went through like 40 songs and he could just keep going forever. He's so good. I think the greatest song, or the song I like the most from him is We All Die One Day. Or maybe it's Someday. We All Die One Day or Someday.
Starting point is 00:18:03 That's my favorite one. I used to play that one in the gym a lot. But's like it's a compilation it's like him and a couple other people i gotta go back and listen to hey okay actually guys don't worry we got a heat we got a heater of an episode coming to you but i gotta ask have you ever heard pop smoke i have not okay you okay so pop smoke was this rapper that died like two years ago young guy um but he came out and people were like what the fuck he's so good number two he sounds just like 50 cent number three he looks kind of like 50 cent number four 50 cent like helped him do some stuff with his music and his album helped like produce some things and then there's like is pop smoke just 50s son and
Starting point is 00:18:45 no one's saying anything because when he raps bro it sounds like 50 oh wow it sounds like 50 and his like his songs are so freaking good it's scary so if you like 50 you like pop smoke he died he died fuck yeah he died like two years ago i think he's probably super young right yeah he was pretty young but he was like he was one of those rappers that came out and everyone's like, he is the one. And then he just died. Is there anybody new on the scene that's really kicking some ass? Nope. Andrew would always fucking say that.
Starting point is 00:19:14 It's a little different right now, right? There's a little lull maybe going on. There's definitely a lull. I mean, I know there's some talented people and they got some pretty good songs and stuff, but I'm just trying to think of like, is there someone out there like just cranking through? Well, I got to look at my playlist. NF is pretty good. I don't know if you guys ever heard of him, but he's pretty good. NF?
Starting point is 00:19:35 Never heard of NF. No, never heard of NF. I've only... He's got a couple of good songs. I listened to a couple of tracks after you mentioned him, but I didn't follow. Just, I don't follow. Just, I don't know. It's hard,
Starting point is 00:19:46 you know, as you get older, stuff gets to be different and then you're just like, yeah, you're left in the dust. Yeah. That's me. Back in my day.
Starting point is 00:19:53 Back in my day. A lot of rappers these days aren't lyrically driven. But there were like, Pop Smoke was really good. Kendrick Lamar, Andrew doesn't agree, but Kendrick Lamar is an amazing rapper. I think he's yeah oh you do yeah okay good i think i went hard on him just to piss you guys off but um no i think he's cool i just i don't know man like everything's graded
Starting point is 00:20:14 on a curve like yeah dude if a lot of these guys came out in like the like mid early 90s like they would just get laughed out of hip-hop. They'd be like, what is... You can't just make bird sounds in the middle of your fucking rap and make it... You can't do that. When you go into the gym next, either go to Spotify and play Invincible Radio. Invincible is a song by Pop Smoke. You'll hear a bunch of songs on that place that are just fine.
Starting point is 00:20:43 But listen to Invincible by Pop Smoke. You want a new lifting song that's going to just fire you up that song is the one it's it's i'm gonna check it out gives me i like um he's like a producer right mustard yeah mustard on a b oh uh a lot of the shit that he puts together is really good like for lifting that um pure water that's that sounds sick as fuck yeah I like that one even though I have no idea what they're saying yeah a lot of music you don't know what they're saying nowadays but it's just like the beat goes and it's just like
Starting point is 00:21:13 you get into it you get into it that's me now you're old and it's too loud I hate too loud I haven't experienced that yet it's just you guys, bud. You're getting there, bro.
Starting point is 00:21:26 You're getting there. No, no. No, I'm not, bro. I'm not. You're getting there. Nope, I'm not. I'm actually still where I am, young and feeling great. Don't be that guy.
Starting point is 00:21:38 Don't be that guy. Just wait. Yep, yep. Fuck both y'all. Oh, just wait. 30s right around the corner. 30s this year, yeah. Some of this is exactly what we're going to be talking about today.
Starting point is 00:21:50 We're talking about stress and kind of our interpretations of it. And Andrew and I did a podcast where we talked about kind of how to handle certain types of news, bad news. And I've even been kind of thinking of that word in general, like bad or bad day and stuff like that. And I just don't even recall. Like the last time I had a bad day was the last time I had a shitty attitude. That's the last time I had a bad day. And what I mean by that is like my mind wasn't changed yet. I wasn't – I didn't go through the exorcism of cleaning out and clearing out my mind to recognize that I don't need to ever have a bad day.
Starting point is 00:22:25 So that's the last time, and I don't even recall when that was, but it was probably decades ago. So I've had, in that time, I've had all kinds of different things happen. I've had people die that are close to me. All kinds of other shit has happened during that time. But I just, through learning certain skill sets and through learning certain things about myself through personal development, even just through training, like through actual like lifting and now like running and stuff like that, I just have continued to work towards things that I, that will assist me in earning happiness anytime I choose to go towards that route.
Starting point is 00:23:11 I can find stuff that will make me feel good or make me feel better. And sometimes it's as simple as, sometimes it's as easy as just taking a shower. I think a shower feels good. So sometimes, I don't know if I'm tired or if I'm sore, you know, soreness is you're wearing some stress from a training session, right? And so I'll go into like a hot tub, I'll go into a sauna, I'll take a shower. These are all things that,
Starting point is 00:23:38 you know, fortunately I have access to some of those other things, but even just going into the shower can sometimes be something that can help. I'll just feel a little bit better. Body's warmed up. Now I'm ready to go on a walk or a run. Maybe it wakes me up for the day. Yeah. When it comes to soreness, it's pretty funny. When I feel sore in certain spots, it's not like, oh, I feel sorry. What I think is like, ooh, it's doing this. Things are doing what they need to do. When I feel sore, let's say i just was doing a workout and i just moved into a really deep range and i'm feeling sore in that place the next day i'm like this is good good change is happening that's how like that's how i look at it now that shit's growing yeah because like over the years when you work out a lot you get sore and over time you get used to that soreness but then you start to be like oh that
Starting point is 00:24:23 is a good thing oh my quads i can barely I can barely walk. We're like, I'm having trouble walking. Ooh, this is good. Like after we did the, um, the teardrop squat. And then when I sat down for dinner that night and I got up and I was like, fucking, Ooh, I need electrolytes. I'm like, Oh yeah, this is the same bad. I'm going to get some electrolytes. This is good. Yeah. That's a special feeling. You're like those areas are going to grow and it's going to be better for your knee in the long run, right? Exactly. Yeah, I did a crazy bro workout because I ran our buddy Mike Frank, the police officer that we had on the show. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:24:56 And I was at Sane Strength, and we were just, you know, those guys, they just want to bro out. They just want to, like, do a bunch of muscles that you do a bunch of workouts where you can kind of flex in the mirror and show it off type thing. So we did, we were going to do a bunch of different stuff, but we ended up just doing like 20 sets of chest. I'm like, this is the bro-est of bro things.
Starting point is 00:25:17 And we did so many flies. I'm not sure why, but we started out with like a, with a, like a fly machine. And then we did cable crossovers and then we did flies on an incline bench. I was just letting them like pick whatever they wanted, and we just kept – we kind of just kept going and going and going. Then we started doing some arms.
Starting point is 00:25:35 It just was the ultimate bro workout. But I got really sore from that shit. come to stress though i will say and i i do this so many podcasts but um when i when i get i can't remember remember the last time i was really super stressed about something and like for example my mom has given me pro like has told me like it's an issue when i was younger because like things wouldn't bother me so much but it's kind of her fault because even though she was a single parent of two and there were really stressful situations, I never really saw her break down or crumble underneath the stress that you would see typical people crumble under. So I think inherently I kind of modeled that because I'm like, Oh, she's been through some hard shit like this. All this stuff is pretty easy.
Starting point is 00:26:20 And when I have something that is like really actually probably pretty stressful, it doesn't really affect me that much. Like I don't look at it as like, oh, this is going to fuck me up. I'm more so look at like, oh, how can we solve this? Or how can we figure this out? Or what, what are the next steps immediately? Right? So the reason why I'm saying that is because there's a lot of parents, right? I think that, you know, parents, especially you got to be really careful about how you handle stress around your kids, especially you got to be really careful about how you handle stress around your kids because they're going to be watching that. They're going to be paying attention to how you act under really bad or tough conditions. And I know there's a range of
Starting point is 00:26:56 crazy things that could happen, but depending on how you act, that can affect the way that they act as they become teenagers and adults. I think a great way to handle it sometimes is just to start to recognize that things don't, they maybe aren't necessarily crazy. There's just so many things that can happen, right? So you just are aware that when you order a certain meal at a restaurant, it could be cooked improperly. They could give you chicken when you ordered steak. There could be all kinds of things. And you can decide, you get to choose how you want to react to that. It sounds so small, right? But those little things are, and people are watching,
Starting point is 00:27:36 you know, like there's people at the table with you, whether it's a significant other or whether it's a relative or whether it's your own child, like they're watching your response to getting a regular Coke as opposed to a diet Coke. You could get all wound up and say, like, I'm on a specific diet. Like, I didn't order this, and you gave me the thing with the bun, and the cheese is all stuck on there. And you can make a big scene, right? Or you could figure out a way for you to deal with it personally. And one way to deal with it is the way that I deal with it.
Starting point is 00:28:06 I just don't say anything. I'm like, I'm just going to fucking eat it. I don't care. Unless it was like something that I just, I don't know, just couldn't eat or something like that. And if you're mean to people like waiters and cooks and shit, fuck you to the highest degree. Because I see people like that sometimes. It's just like, you got nothing else better, do you? Like you really just want to feel powerful don't you the one time you have like the upper hand you're gonna
Starting point is 00:28:29 abuse the fuck out of it right give me a break yeah i hate that shit assholes i can't stand even if i do get like terrible service like the people i'll be around and be like oh that's it they're not getting a tip and like just jokingly whatever i've walked out and literally ran back and dropped like a lot of money on the table right like i cannot not tip like i understand like that's a stressful job too they're dealing with people all day long they're dealing with people that are like way more stress and then they're taking it on them like golly i hate that but yeah so sorry no no i think the thing that makes that can make stress difficult is there's so much uh like human interaction right like there's so we can be pretty responsible for ourselves we believe uh or we can like learn a lot and then we can handle the way
Starting point is 00:29:20 that we act and react to stuff but then like we don't have any control of anything that's outside of our own thoughts. And even your thoughts, a lot of thinking happens without you even trying to do anything. Just random thoughts will pop into your head. But we do get to think about our thoughts and we do get to pause and we do get to like take a second, you know, take a beat. Something happens regardless of what it is. If your first reaction is you're starting to get mad, well, just feel that for a second. Like what's, you're not going to die. You know, what's wrong with just feeling that for a moment? Let a moment or two
Starting point is 00:29:59 pass and think, oh man, like that got me kind of stirred up. Like what, what am I, God. And then you kind of frustrated that you got mad in the first place. But you can, you can dwell on it for a second. You have an opportunity to like, think about it. If it's a text message, if it's an email, some people will say sleep on it. Some people have a hard time sleeping on stuff like that because then you're tossing and turning type of thing but if you just let time fixes everything your uh driveway is covered with four feet of snow well if you just wait long enough there won't be any fucking snow on the driveway anymore i mean i guess depends on where you live but you gotta wait a whole season yeah it's gonna work yeah you might have
Starting point is 00:30:38 to wait a while right like time heals all wounds they say so if you can be patient and you can kind of just sit in the pocket and let these things kind of just happen, then you can try to figure out what's the best possible way to handle this. Just like you would if you got a meal served to you that you didn't order. You say, oh, there must be, maybe there's a mistake. I was trying to order something different. And you try to just problem solve them for there. Or you say, hey, I just wanted to let you know I actually ordered something different, but I'm totally okay with eating this. I just wanted you to know because there was like an error made.
Starting point is 00:31:12 I believe I ordered this. And just so you can keep track, you know, just in case it's the cook or in case whatever. Because I have a business too, so sometimes I'll do stuff like that just to kind of point something out. this too. So sometimes I'll do stuff like that just to kind of point something out. But you just handle it in whatever way you think is the most rational and responsible way to get towards the result you're looking for. And real talk, just on the side note, there are so many times I've gotten free meals just because I was really nice about telling them about the air. I'm like, I'm so sorry. This is actually just not what I ordered. I hate to do this, but could you get it
Starting point is 00:31:45 and then they're like you know what you're so nice there's no charge or just keep that and I'll get the one that you need exactly and then you get the bill and they're just like hey sorry for that mistake but I scratched that one off and they're nice because you're nice so it's happens to you a lot more but you know
Starting point is 00:32:01 stop stop don't even we're not going down that rabbit hole. All right. I was going to mention from what you said. Don't go down that rabbit hole. Stop it. It's because of all the collagen he consumes. His skin is real nice.
Starting point is 00:32:13 Yeah. It's glowing. Exactly. It looks great. Is that what I need to do? That is what you need to do. You need to get more collagen in your neck. No wrinkles.
Starting point is 00:32:19 But you guys remember the podcast with Andy Triana, Go Superbrain. If you guys haven't listened to that, that is a sleeper episode. You need to go listen. God listen. People love that one. Too much info, but it is so much info. But a big theme that he was continuing to come back to in that episode is continuous self-assessment, continuous self-assessment when something happens, assess what's going on. So negative thoughts, you can't control, well, you can't control what thoughts come into your head. Based off of the things that you do pay attention to on a daily basis, that will influence the volume of negative thoughts
Starting point is 00:32:50 you have. But in general, we all will have negative thoughts about something or the other. You can't really stop it. Now, when a negative thought happens, what do you do? Do you immediately act on it? Do you dwell on it? Or do you assess, oh, damn, I'm feeling kind of insecure about something or this is problematic. Okay, I'm feeling it. What happens? You can let that thought pass and go on to something else because it will pass. Or you can dwell on it and let it affect you, let it get you down, just like it'll mess you up. But that was something that Andy was talking about continuously.
Starting point is 00:33:26 Assess it, let yourself feel it. And then one thing is ask yourself, is this useful right now? Like, is this, is this actually useful? Like if you're stressing about a,
Starting point is 00:33:36 a situation with work, right. And you have a thought that, you know, maybe you can't do something. Is that useful for you? Truly, is it? If it's not, just try to let it go by because we all have those types of thoughts.
Starting point is 00:33:50 Even the most successful people, the highest level of professionals, athletes, all have thoughts like that. But the thing is, is that they don't dwell on it. That's just totally part of the situation. And they let it pass and then they keep going. So you have to be in a constant, it's in essence, just mindfulness. This is why people do meditation. The whole point of meditation is you focus on breathing, but you have all these thoughts that come up and happen in your mind, but you continue to just let those thoughts come and let them pass, be okay with those
Starting point is 00:34:21 thoughts, and then bring yourself back to what you were doing. That's the whole goal of what people call mindfulness. And that's the same thing that you can easily do when stressful situations happen or thoughts. I think a lot of times we feel like we're behind and we feel that we are like in a rush to do certain things and our judgment gets clouded. And then we think that we got to make these decisions in these split seconds. And we're almost always like worried or concerned about what somebody else is going to think, what they're going to say, how they're going to react to something that you said. Most of it's fairly made up. Like you're just trying to, it's just a guess about how someone's going to react to you saying how you feel about a particular situation. We don't really know.
Starting point is 00:35:08 But I do know that, like, things that can really be helpful when it comes to this kind of stuff, there's some real simple things. Exercise. You know, getting outside and trying to get some type of exercise. Try to get some type of sunlight. Do it as often as you can figure out. If you can only get to it once a day for 10 minutes, that's better than none times a day. Your sleep.
Starting point is 00:35:33 Your sleep is just critical to everything. Our body doesn't even handle food the same way. We don't sleep properly. There was another study that came out more recently about poor sleep and its connection to dementia. I mean, there's just like more and more evidence coming out all the time. And we also know from previous guests that we've had on the show that Alzheimer's and dementia are also connected to your blood sugar and things like being pre-diabetic, having insulin resistance. So your food, your sleep, and exercise is some representation of like some general care. Like if you think about it in terms
Starting point is 00:36:13 of like brushing your teeth, you brush your teeth twice a day. Can you figure out some type of exercise twice a day? It doesn't have to be a full workout, just some type of exercise twice a day. Can you be mindful of your sleep? Like what you do before you go to bed and what you do when you wake up? You know, I think if we can just kind of, if we can brush up upon these things frequently, one or two times a day and be mindful of them, well, then the stress of the day, it's easier to have it just kind of bounce off of you. Or it's easier to make a joke about something that otherwise might've been kind of threatening to you. You can be like, oh, that's kind of funny. That's really silly. Somebody really thought that about me? Oh my God. That's, hey, you know what? Somebody thought this, and you say something
Starting point is 00:36:57 that's even worse about me the other day. And you kind of point that out and you make fun of it rather than have it just sitting on you all day. the sleep note because i can't like you know we mentioned sleep but sleep is so freaking important we've talked about how big of a difference it can make with your nutrition your metabolism your performance in the gym the way you handle things on a day-to-day basis when you're fatigued and tired it's going to be much harder for you to be resilient towards the stress like the stresses that of life that come towards you every single day. So, I mean, eight sleep, I'm gonna, I'm going to mention that right now. Eight sleep is super freaking beneficial because you can control the temperature of your mattress topper. And it's like, if you go to eight sleep, you can get yourself a mattress topper that you can just
Starting point is 00:37:39 put over the mattress you have at home, or you can get the topper and the mattress. But the technology that allows you to control the temperature will allow you to make your mattress cooler, which will lead to better quality sleep. You'll toss and turn less, and you'll sleep so much better. And we talk about sleep so much because it is literally one of the cornerstones of your fitness. When we had Stan Efferding come on, what's his phrase? Stepping over.
Starting point is 00:38:02 Oh, yeah. Yeah. Stepping over pennies. I forget what it is. Stepping over dollars to you're like, Oh yeah. Yeah. Stepping over pennies to, I forget what it is. Stepping over dollars. There you go. Exactly. And he was talking about people who are trying to find all these other
Starting point is 00:38:12 solutions and they're still getting bad quality sleep. It's like you're stepping over your biggest advocate sleep, being your biggest advocate towards handling everything else as far as your fitness. So if you don't have that handled and it's not quality, you're fucking yourself over. So Andrew, tell people,
Starting point is 00:38:30 please. And the mattress helps track your sleep. Yes. Yes. Yeah. So, you know, people have all these watches and all these different things and those items
Starting point is 00:38:38 are probably great, but this thing will track it for you. Track your sleep for you. Your heart rate, your heart rate variability, all that stuff. So absolutely. Yeah. And it's like the biggest surface so it's like the biggest way to track your actual
Starting point is 00:38:49 sleep because it's the whole freaking bed and a lot of people like why do you want to track sleep like you're just asleep blah blah it's like well if you don't track something you have no way of measuring it and if you have no way of measuring it you have no way of improving it and this takes care of all of that and it's's, yeah, it really is amazing. And like, like in SEMA said, you can either get just the topper or you can get the topper and the mattress. Either way, you're going to save $150 off of either one of them. Head over to 8sleep.com slash power project. That's all spelled out. So it's E-I-G-H-T sleep.com slash power project. And you'll automatically receive $150 off. No code needed. Just head over there.
Starting point is 00:39:29 Yeah. Load that up in your cart and at checkout, you'll instantly instantly receive that discount links to them down in the description as well as the podcast show notes. I wanted to ask you, Mark, before I hope I didn't just cut you off, but about you said there was like an exorcism, you know, that you had where, you know, you after that you had no bad days. And did you not remember that part? No. No? Was that today? Yeah, literally like five minutes ago.
Starting point is 00:39:50 No, just kidding. Yeah, yeah. Exercise the demons. Yeah. This house is clear. Where is that from? Scary movie or something? Poltergeist.
Starting point is 00:39:59 Poltergeist. I haven't seen it. I haven't seen it. It's terrifying. You're lucky you haven't seen it. Oh, my gosh. It is bad. You're such a pussy when it comes to scary movies. It's terrifying. You're lucky you haven't seen it. Oh my gosh. It is bad. You're such a pussy when it comes to scary movies.
Starting point is 00:40:08 Especially back then. If you watch it now with no special effects and the people that come out of the cemetery probably look all stupid. My daughter loves scary movies. Mine too. Can she watch them alone? Can they watch them alone? Yeah, she'll watch them alone and she'll watch them with us.
Starting point is 00:40:23 Women really be like that because I'm telling you, I know so many women who are like, yeah she'll watch them alone and she'll watch them with us women really be like that because I'm telling you I know like I know so many women who are like yeah I watch scary movies alone I'm like
Starting point is 00:40:29 I can't yeah it's terrifying I can't do it alone right before bed fuck that like how the hell how the hell do you do that I hate sleep
Starting point is 00:40:36 ain't gonna protect you from them that and women seem to love serial killer documentaries or just serial killer stuff in general there's definitely
Starting point is 00:40:44 something about serial killers that they're into okay I'm sorry i'm sure keep on i don't remember oh yeah uh no because because you're like yeah i just don't have any bad days i haven't had one like two decades or whatever it may be and i'm just like fuck dude there's a lot of people that are gonna be like no way myself included you know i'm just like man i don't know like i i still get very stressed on a regular basis and when i say i get stressed i mean like you know, I'm just like, man, I don't know. Like I, I still get very stressed on a regular basis. And when I say I get stressed, I mean like, you know, like some, like my son that I'll have with my son or like my mom right now. And I'm just like, like, I just need a second to breathe and I'll try not to let it consume me. But like, I'll, I'll do that tactic where I let a little bit of time pass. You need to get better at it, but we're like, I'll literally like the
Starting point is 00:41:23 old school, uh, count to 10 before you react but we're like i'll literally like the old school uh count to 10 before you react for anything and like let yourself cool off i'll do that still but what what do you mean that you just like from it's because it sounded like from one day to the next it was like and no more bad days and then you've just been smiling ever since can you dive in a little bit more on like what happened and how you made that transition? Yeah, it took a while. It took time. Probably took like 10 years or so. I think a lot of times people are chasing after and thinking about this stuff's kind of constantly on their mind of stuff that they don't have. And so I think that that's like, number one, if you can start to kind of not be so overly concerned about stuff that you currently don't have like money or whatever it is you're working towards.
Starting point is 00:42:11 And then also I think people are consumed by who they're not. They're consumed by – they're just like not – they're like not there yet. They want another 100,000 followers on Instagram. another 100,000 followers on Instagram. They want to be more like this guy or this girl and they feel that they're deserving of it because they work really hard and put a lot of time into it. So a lot of their time is occupied by that
Starting point is 00:42:34 which wouldn't even fall into a category of necessarily being negative or positive. But if you were to think about, if you hired a new CEO of your brain, that's the first thing they would get rid of. They'd get rid of that department that wastes all that time in that particular area. They'd be like, hey, what the fuck is this department about? Why are we spending so much time here worrying about what we're not and where we're not at yet?
Starting point is 00:42:56 So those things took me a while, but those things were also learned by just being humbled, by just being smacked around and having my ass kicked by life and by people. You know, when I played football, I went to Santa Monica City College and I played with Steve Smith and Chad Ochocinco. And I recognized, wow, like, you thought you were pretty good at football. But I mean, these are guys that move around like I think Steve Smith is in the Hall of Fame. I mean, these are guys that move around like I think Steve Smith is in the Hall of Fame. I mean, these are next level human beings. You have no relation to anything that they do except for maybe your mindset, right? Like I don't have any, I could show up here every day
Starting point is 00:43:37 and I can work hard. I can put in a lot of work every single time, but anything else they do, especially when it comes to something physically, I don't know how to match any of that. And then professional wrestling and seeing how people can move and seeing how creative people were and seeing the physiques and stuff like that. I'm like, I can work towards all this. And yeah, I can figure a lot of this out, but there's some stuff that I'm just simply not as good as some of these people in certain areas. And I was okay with admitting that to a certain degree. And the same thing happened with lifting. I was able to lift well.
Starting point is 00:44:11 I was able to lift some heavy stuff. But look at the things people are doing now. You know, I can strive to lift like Ed Cohn or I could strive to lift like Ray Williams. And I can continue to get better. And I can be inspired and motivated by that. And that's pretty positive. But what I can't do, which I think is, can be foolish at times is to have a lot of worry and concern about it and to go out of my own lane and to then enter into their lane. And I think what happens is the things that happen on a daily basis, the smaller stresses, they add up a lot faster when you're not where you want to be.
Starting point is 00:44:51 You're like, I'm not, for me, especially now, I feel like every day I'm involved with doing stuff that I really love to do. I love doing this podcast. I love hanging out with you guys. I love seeing the people here at work. I love what I do for work. I love seeing the people here at work. I love what I do for work. I love who I hang out with on a daily basis. There's really not anything where I'm like, I got to go and do that.
Starting point is 00:45:15 I mean, every once in a while, something will come up. I got to go to a bank or some shit like that. There's weird shit that pops up, right? But for the most part, I really enjoy I enjoy all of it. I'm very interested in all of it. I have a question on that. What would you say to the person? Because I'm in the same boat as you and I think Andrew's in the same boat. We love what we do and we've been loving what we do for quite a while. But for somebody who does have to go to their job, where they have to be around some people that they don't want and
Starting point is 00:45:45 don't like to be around, what would your advice be to them to be able to just kind of, because like the advice, I mean, I feel like, okay, well try to get out of that situation, but it's not always that easy, you know, especially if you're in a job that's like, it's making you great money right now, or it's your main option right now, and that's just what you got to do, what would your advice be to them? I would just say that 10 years from now, it's going to be 10 years later, no matter how you slice it. So whatever that thing is that you have in your head that would be better, you should start moving towards that as soon as you possibly can within reason. I'm not saying like in and just like quit your job randomly, but the attachment to,
Starting point is 00:46:30 a lot of times we're talking about a job, right? And a lot of, and or a relationship, and both things don't make any sense. Like we've talked before about the fallacy of, you know, having- The sunken cost theory? Yeah, the sunken cost theory. Like you had all this time invested.
Starting point is 00:46:46 You're thinking, man, I make some pretty good money. Things like benefits and things like having a company car, these are all things that just... They're just holding you down. They're holding you back. You don't need those things.
Starting point is 00:46:58 You can buy... I don't know if people are aware of this, but you can buy your own insurance. You can buy your own dental insurance. You can buy your own health insurance. You can have your own car. You don't need to do these things, but these things are there. They exist. So they keep you, you know, these companies are just trying to keep you working. They don't care how they got to do it. They just got to keep you working. Like we just need some fucking bodies around here. And if what you're doing you're not feeling like reward from,
Starting point is 00:47:31 then you should work your way towards finding something that you can get more reward for. It's not always easy. Like, if you love, like, fishing, like, what are you going to do? Open up, like, a fishing store? Like, you know, it might be a little complex on how to figure out how to do it. But maybe instead of opening up a fishing store, you take people like I've been out on Lake Tahoe before. And we had a guide that took us out on the boat for the day. And he like fished, you know, he had all the poles and he had all the stuff.
Starting point is 00:48:03 And like, you know how fucking happy that guy was? Yeah. You know, he was, that guy, like I still remember him. Like that was four years ago. Captain Mike, he was all fired up. He was so excited. My kids remember him. We still talk about him.
Starting point is 00:48:17 Like, we got to go do that again. That was sick. That guy was so happy. And then people are thinking like, I got this job and it pays me 60K and I got insurance. I got three kids. And it's like, that's great. That's cool. But if it's not really working towards anything, like, are you going to have your name on anything?
Starting point is 00:48:36 Like, are you working towards anything that can be your own? Because as my dad said, my dad worked for IBM for 19 years, you know, never was late, was a real reliable employee. And when he left after being there for so long, he walked out with this tiny little box. And that tiny little box had his possessions in it. And he recognized he didn't own the stapler. He didn't own the pen. He didn't own the chair. He didn't own the desk. He owned nothing, you know. But luckily for my dad, he already had a side hustle going on. So I think that Gary V talks a lot about that. I think that's probably the ticket is to, you know, as you're working, uh, as you're working to kind of just keep your
Starting point is 00:49:17 life in order to have enough money for your day to day, you should be working towards a fortune, which is just, uh, you working towards your dream, which is just you working towards your dream job or goal. Yeah. And bringing up the situation where somebody just loves fishing. It's like, well, fuck, I can't even spend time away from this or that. It's like, well, maybe start a podcast about fishing. Okay. What's the podcast going to do? It's not going to really make you any money. It's not going to do this and that. But what it's going to do is after you leave the job that you don't like, you're going to have something and you're going to be fired up to go home and do you're going to be excited for something else um so going looking back at when i i fucking hated my job but the
Starting point is 00:49:54 second i clocked out i was focused on photography and every single day it gave me a reason to get up get done with um uh aubrey marcus called it smiling through the suck, smile through the sucky job. So that way it can afford me time and money to go invest in myself and into my photography. And so just having something that you can work on, even if it's something small, but if something of your own that you care about, that will get you up and get you through your day. That will give you a more positive mindset because then somebody at the water cooler starts talking about like oh my you know grandfather used to go fishing all the time like oh really do you know where and like you you're now fired up
Starting point is 00:50:34 to talk about that one topic and then now you're the guy at work that knows all about fishing and you know so like then you're just it becomes part of your like identity almost and it just like i said it just, like I said, it just, now that job sucks a little bit less, but also your life sucks way less because, well, it doesn't suck at all because now you have that one thing that you are working on. And one thing about what you're mentioning there, let's use the example about starting a fishing podcast. The immediate thought that's going to come to an individual's mind is like, but no one wants to listen to me talk about fishing.
Starting point is 00:51:07 That's exactly what we were kind of talking about here. Negative thoughts happen all the time. Does it serve you? Does it serve you towards the goal you're trying to get to? That thought doesn't serve you at all. If anything, it's just stopping you from trying to do something that maybe you think that you want to do. So what you have to do is you need to assess that thought. Understand that it's not helpful.
Starting point is 00:51:23 It's not serving you. And I know it sounds so simply like, oh, sure. But this ability to assess things from a bird's eye view and just kind of pick them out, right? That will help you a lot in terms of navigating the bullshit that goes on in all of our heads, because there's no one here and no one on earth that doesn't have negative thoughts, right? But if you can figure out a way to assess and move past that, you'll be able to take action on some of the things that you want to do. And if anything, like we've talked about this before, these days in this century, this is the best time and one of the craziest and maybe potentially easiest times to delve into something that actually interests you. Because my mom didn't have the option to just go in into something that actually interests you. Because my mom didn't have the option to just go in on something that interested her. The internet wasn't there. She was, you know, she liked engineering to an extent, but there were other things that she would love to do
Starting point is 00:52:15 that she could, she would have loved to spend her time doing. But you can do that now, right? Our parents may have not been able to, but we can do that now. So we have to take advantage of this so that you can live a life that you're truly interested in living. You want to work on developing a skill set. I think the greatest skill set you could ever have is the one where you work on your interpretation of the things that you hear and the things that you feel and the things that you see. And do it over and over and you have to constantly reevaluate it and make sure that you're uh you know heading down the right path communicate with other people about it say hey i you know uh actually you know i view stress to be a little
Starting point is 00:52:56 bit more like this you know or these types of stresses that i feel from running from uh doing sprints from from lifting. You know, I categorize them kind of this way. I've been thinking about it more like this, right? Versus, you know, some of the stresses that we have during the day, I think that people literally think that there's not much you can do about those. I think there's things that people think you can't do much about your mindset, the way you are genetically.
Starting point is 00:53:25 Well, my whole family is big. So, you know, I'm probably going to be – and it's like, okay, well, there definitely certainly can be some truth to that. We've circled the wagon many times here on the podcast talking about genetics and the different implications of what it can do and what it can't do. But no one truly knows. We don't know how deep or the magnitude of that, but we do know that you can make massive changes. So you maybe don't have to live the rest of your life out weighing a hundred pounds more than you should. You might be able, I would say be very likely that you would be able to lose weight and to figure out ways to control your weight just like anybody else.
Starting point is 00:54:05 And maybe you – yeah, maybe it turns out you're not as thin. Maybe it turns out you're – if you were to take an IQ test, maybe it turns out your IQ is not as high as that other person. But it doesn't mean that you can't work on so many other things. What about just remaining positive? What about leaning towards choosing happiness? What about trying to introduce happiness into other people's lives? Like, you know, yesterday I was about to go for a run. We came back from Bodega and I was, you know, getting ready and putting my shoes on.
Starting point is 00:54:42 Quinn's like, hey, you want to play volleyball? I'm like, yep. Let's go. You know, so that's what I did. Quinn's like, hey, you want to play volleyball? I'm like, yep. Let's go. So that's what I did. I didn't run yesterday. That's not anything great. That's just what a parent does. It's just an opportunity right there sitting in front of me.
Starting point is 00:54:56 And it's something that I wish. It's something I think about it often. I wish I could get more time with her so that we get closer. And these things will just pop up. She'll be like, oh, I want to go to my friend's house. I'm like, okay, I'm giving you a ride. She's like, no, Jake said he can do it. I'm like, nope.
Starting point is 00:55:14 Nope, I got it. Like I need, even if no one says anything, I want the 10 minute drive, you know, with my daughter in the car, just so it's there, you know, just so she knows I'm around. But our interpretation of stress a lot of times, With my daughter in the car, just so it's there. Just so she knows I'm around. Our interpretation of stress a lot of times, unfortunately, is to reach for a beer or reach for a drug or reach for,
Starting point is 00:55:35 oh, I'm kind of tired, I'm going to have a coffee. It's okay to have that be a reaction here and there, but it shouldn't be your only move. Work on having more moves than just that yeah you guys want to um play this clip from alia crumb yeah it was all the boys to the yard yeah yeah because like what you mentioned there about your you know your perception of something i think it goes in line with what we wanted what what we were going to talk about because this thing's crazy yeah she talked the milkshake part no the the maid part let's start with the maid part i think that was the first one it's at like five minutes yeah you're right yeah um cool and this i'm gonna
Starting point is 00:56:13 just let it play i know you explain it y'all y'all see but by the way alia crumb was actually on uh andrew hooberman's podcast it was an amazing episode but if you guys you know we're gonna play this watch this she's incredible yeah she is yeah. It will be in 1.5 times speed. People get mad at that, but slow it down if you want to. Reinterpret your anger. Would they not receive the same benefit? We decided to test this.
Starting point is 00:56:38 And to test this, we found a really unique group of women. A group of 84 hotel housekeepers working in seven different hotels across the U.S. These women are on their feet all day long. They're using a variety of muscles, and they're burning an extraordinary amount of calories just doing their job. But what's interesting is that these women
Starting point is 00:56:55 don't seem to view their work in this light. We asked them, we said, do you exercise regularly? And two-thirds said no. So we said, OK, well, so on a scale of zero to ten, how much exercise do you get? And a third of them said zero. I get no exercise at all. So we wondered, what would happen if we could change their mindset?
Starting point is 00:57:12 So we took these women, we split them into two groups, we measured them in a variety of things, including their weight, their blood pressure, their body fat, their satisfaction with their job, and then we took half of them and we gave them a simple 15-minute presentation. We gave them this poster and we said, you know, your work is good exercise. It satisfies the Surgeon General's requirements, which are quite simply to accumulate about 30 minutes of moderate physical activity. You should expect to receive those benefits.
Starting point is 00:57:35 15 minutes. We came back four weeks later and we measured them again. Not surprisingly, the groups that didn't receive this information didn't change. But those that did looked different. They dropped weight. They had a significant reduction in systolic blood pressure. They dropped body fat. And they reported liking their job more.
Starting point is 00:57:56 So what does this tell us? Well, to me, it was fascinating that just as a result of a simple 15-minute presentation, the whole game changed, producing a cascade of effects on both their health and their well-being, presumably without even changing behavior. Now, some of you might be thinking, well, how do you know they didn't change their behavior, right? Because that must have been what produced the effects. Well, we know they didn't work anymore, and the room attendants themselves
Starting point is 00:58:18 assured us that they didn't join the sports club down the street. But of course, we can't know for sure if they weren't, you know, putting a little more oomph into their making the beds. So this question really plagued me. All right, pause real quick. Is there a direct, immediate connection? So this is, this was really cool. It was, it's this MAID study, right? But your perception about what you do, you know what I mean? Like, if you perceive this as like, if you perceive your job as being a weight, right? And it's not doing anything for you and because you're having to sit at your desk, it's like it's, it's your perception of your job can affect, you know, your outcomes. And for these women, like some people probably be like, oh, they were moving more.
Starting point is 00:58:57 They weren't moving more and they started moving. They had physiological benefits from their mindset on their job because they gained some information about why it's good for them. You ever go to, you know, using a restaurant as another example, you ever go to a restaurant and you feel like it's a huge burden for you to put in your order? It's like the waiter or waitress is like pretty like you're not sure like what happened in their day, but they're just kind of wearing it, you know? And then sometimes you go to that same place and the person couldn't be happier to serve you. So you're like, how did these two people, they work at the same establishment.
Starting point is 00:59:31 Maybe the other person is just having a rough go of it for that particular day, who knows? But we see this a lot. And even when you go to different countries, like when I went to Mexico, the place, the like resort place that we stayed at everyone's so happy and they're happy to get you whatever you want
Starting point is 00:59:50 they're happy to do I think they're just viewing this as an opportunity this is a great job that they have and other times someone will have a similar job and they'll say this job sucks man I have to scrub the bathroom and meanwhile somebody else has the same exact job.
Starting point is 01:00:05 They have a totally different interpretation of it. Yeah. And it's a tough one because being in those situations, some people want to remove themselves and move into something else. But while you're in that job or whatever, like while I was working at 24 Hour Fitness, I knew that I don't want to be there. But I was like, I'm going to learn as much as I can here about sales, about this, about that, so I can take that into what I'm doing next. You try to figure out what here is serving me. Because I mean, as hard as different jobs may be, there must be something there for these women that were maids in rooms what was serving them their movement all day long being on your feet like you guys know how beneficial walking is and standing is
Starting point is 01:00:51 that's why we stand at the podcast desk and for us every time i stand here at the podcast i don't look at it as like oh standing again i'm like damn i'm on my feet again okay so this is going to be good for my fitness that's how i view it and that can be super beneficial for you. It's amazing. The, the difference it has in your actual body, like the way that we think about ourselves. I mean, how many negative thoughts are holding us back, you know, uh, thinking certain things about ourselves, thinking that we're not smart enough to learn certain things. And then really what happens too, is, um, to make matters even worse, we just don't even go down those roads. Those roads are closed.
Starting point is 01:01:28 Closed for construction, but you're never going to actually work on it. There's never going to be any actual construction going on. It's just you closed off that lane and it's not open to you. You're like, I'm never going to mess with that. It's terrible. It can be a really massively problematic thing that most people deal with. Press play.
Starting point is 01:01:50 Sure thing. Between our mindsets and our bodies. So to test this, I worked with my colleagues at Yale, Kelly Brownell, Will Corvin, and Peter Salovey. And we did so by making a big batch of milkshakes. So we made this big batch of milkshakes, and then we invited people to come to our lab to try the milkshakes. and in exchange, we would give them $75. Sounds great, right? Well, the less appealing aspect of the agreement was that while they were drinking the shakes, we had them hooked up to an IV so we could get their blood samples. We were out to measure ghrelin. Ghrelin is a peptide secreted in the gut. The medical experts
Starting point is 01:02:22 call this the hunger hormone. So when we haven't eaten in a while, our ghrelin levels start to rise, signaling to the brain it's time to seek out food and slowing our metabolism to, you know, just in case we don't find that food. Now say we go out, we find and we devour a milkshake, a hamburger, some french fries, our ghrelin levels drop, signaling to our brain time to stop eating and revving up the metabolism so we can burn the food that was just consumed. So the participants came in, we hooked them up to an IV, and then we gave them a milkshake, sense a shake. This is zero percent fat, 140 calories, zero added sugar. This is guilt-free satisfaction. So they drank this shake and in response their ghrelin levels dropped, but only very slightly, signaling to the brain that some food had been consumed,
Starting point is 01:03:06 but not a whole lot. So a week later, they came back to our lab, we hooked them up to an IV again, and we gave them this shake. 620 calories, 30 grams of fat, 56 grams of sugar, now this, this is decadence you deserve. And in response to this shake, their ghrelin levels dropped again, but this time at a significantly steeper rate, about three times more than the shake they had before.
Starting point is 01:03:30 Now this would make good sense to any metabolic nutritionist who understands that the drop in ghrelin is proportional to the amount of calories consumed. But there was a catch. In this study, even though the participants thought they had consumed the sensible shake and the indulgent shake, in reality, we gave them the exact same shake at both time points. So what does this tell us?
Starting point is 01:03:50 Well, just as in the case when the same amount of morphine produced more or less of an effect depending on our awareness, and just as in the case when the same amount of exercise produced more or less of a benefit depending on how it was construed, here again, our mindsets proved to matter in this case suggesting it might not be just calories in and calories out or the precise makeup of fats nutrients what scared me what we expect what we think about the foods we eat that determines our body's response so in light of this, it behooves us. Yo. Yo, okay.
Starting point is 01:04:33 Like, guys, the reason why that's so crazy, not so odd, is because calories in, calories out matters. We know that. But that made me think about, like, you know, when we started doing, like, fasting, right? When we talk about it to each other, when we talk about it to people, we're not like, oh, you're going to feel so hungry. And, you know, it's going to be really tough for you not to eat. And you can go through the day dragging, et cetera. You're not going to be able to do your jujitsu or lift as heavy. Right?
Starting point is 01:05:05 When we talk about it and when we think about it, it's like, you know, you get used to hunger. Hunger becomes something that's not even a big deal. When we get to eat, we feast. We eat a lot of food. We feel good. And through the day, we're clear-headed because, you know, we're not digesting all this food. Our mindset towards it is like, oh, this is a positive thing that's going to be good for us. It's going to be good for our diet, and we're not going to lose muscle, which we haven't. we're not going to lose muscle, which we haven't.
Starting point is 01:05:26 But that, like what she mentioned right there, it's like the individuals who thought that that shake was a low-calorie shake, right, they immediately, their ghrelin dropped a little bit, but that means that they wanted to eat more food because of their perception of what they were eating. Just like people on carnivore, if you perceive your diet serving you, whatever diet you're doing, there's a likely chance that your diet's going to serve you. A hundred percent. And I think, you know, for me with my diet, like I've,
Starting point is 01:05:51 I kind of make some stuff up. Like I had got beliefs that really don't make any sense. I've had beliefs like in lifting that don't make any sense. Just in like, I'm just going to trust in myself. I know better, like not in an arrogant way, not like I'm just going to trust in myself. I know better. Like, not in an arrogant way. Not like I'm just going to deny what everybody else says completely. But I'm just going to go by how I feel. I never followed any programming. I just always just lifted. And it worked.
Starting point is 01:06:14 It ended up working out well. When it comes to my nutrition, you know, maybe a couple years ago, I started to adopt this idea that protein's kind of free. Like, I think, I personally think that protein's kind of free. I personally think that protein's kind of free. And it's something that I've adopted, and I know that that's not necessarily maybe the most scientific information to share with people, but I think it's almost like a free calorie. And it is debatable on whether it's four calories per gram
Starting point is 01:06:41 versus maybe it being a little less. People think that it should be like two, but I personally believe that it's free. So if I'm hungry, what am I going to eat? I'm going to eat more protein. I'm going to keep crushing protein. That might be science or something that refutes some of that. But again, what's the impact this is maybe having on my body if I believe this to be true? Since that time, I've adopted a couple other things to be free. Ice cream pizza now. Vegetables as well as fruit now.
Starting point is 01:07:13 So at the end of every day, I eat a giant fucking bowl of fruit. It's strawberries, blueberries. Sometimes it might be pineapple or banana. It just depends. I take cottage cheese. I take, this is the way vanilla protein. I mix that in cottage cheese. I dump some cinnamon in there. I throw the fruit on top of it and it's fucking amazing. And I sit down, I watch some TV with my wife and that's the way I end every night after dinner. I just keep getting leaner and leaner. So it's helping, it's serving me. It's helpful to me to kind of adopt some of these principles where I believe that the program that I'm on, I believe in what it is that I'm doing.
Starting point is 01:07:54 And along with that, real quick, yeah, you mentioned protein being free. But there's a level of we've had people come onto the podcast like Alan Aragon, who's the guy that wrote Ted Neiman. And they talk about – they literally give you information as to why more protein doesn't act like when you eat excessive amounts of carbohydrates or fat. They give you the reasoning. It's not a great human energy source. Exactly. It's not the same as fat and carbohydrates. Exactly.
Starting point is 01:08:23 So they give us the information. energy source. It's not the same as fat and carbohydrates. Exactly. So they give us the information. And I think one big thing to remember here is in the MAID study, those MAIDs got information about why what they were doing was good for them, right? So there's a level of belief that you need to have in terms of what you're doing. But then there's a level of bolstering that belief with information. For example, fasting. When I first started, I wanted to start it because I wanted more mental focus and clarity. And I found information that helped me figure out, oh, this will be good for that. But then I also found information that told me, oh, wow, it's actually going to be good for your appetite and this and this. I found information to bolster my argument. This can be kind of warped because on the internet,
Starting point is 01:09:01 you can find anything to bolster your argument, right? But at the same time, you can also find a bunch of things to refute what you're doing. So we've heard Lane Norton in the past talk negatively about fasting. We've heard different professionals talk negatively about fasting and other things that we may do. And when you input that information of people saying, oh, this is bad for this reason, this reason, this reason, and this reason, if you really respect those individuals and respect their opinions, that will then inform your belief in terms of what you're doing. So you hear someone say like, actually, Paul Saladino, you hear him mention that vegetables are bad for you and they'll poison you. And he'll talk about all these different things. And now when you go eat a piece of broccoli, you break out in hives. I'm not even playing. I'm not
Starting point is 01:09:43 even playing about this because now you believe that this is really bad for you and it's going to hurt you. And then you eat it and it never used to be bad in the past, but now you have a negative feeling towards vegetables. So you really got to be careful about the type of stuff you allow yourself to believe from the individuals that you respect. You got to kind of have a filter, you know,
Starting point is 01:10:04 it's tough because maybe some of the things they're saying is correct, but is it serving you? Or is it not? Yeah, I've been really high up on like a lot of this belief systems and stuff since we've been talking about it and since I've been learning from you guys.
Starting point is 01:10:18 But the way I look at it now is if I research something that is, we'll just use the Saladino thing. If I go hard in the paint and I research how carnivore is so good for me and vegetables are so bad for me, that's true. That is now true.
Starting point is 01:10:35 Nobody can refute that. But then if I also go and search, insert somebody who eats everything, I can't think of anybody at the second. Okay. And Seema just said, wait, I can have steak, I to say it okay and sema just said wait i can have steak i can have vegetables and then every once in a while i can have some good carbs i can eat an apple without getting fat that is now true if i go back again and say and see that
Starting point is 01:10:57 plants are trying to kill me i'm gonna get sick again that's now true so like kind of what i started doing is, especially with the go-to coaches that were here, I am just all in on everything positive go-to. I could easily go find something negative. Oh, easily. And then now all of a sudden, now my judgment's a little clouded.
Starting point is 01:11:20 I've done that my whole life, and I've gotten nowhere. So I'm going to only focus on the positive stuff and good outcomes, and that's now my truth. I know we kind of joke about it's my truth, but it is because literally in my world, there is nothing different. If I go find it, then that is now again, that is now true again. it's that is now again that is now true again and you know it's a tough one because this is this is what we just got into right here is a little bit murky because i know that we're seeking truth about all this like what's true but you gotta like because you can find things on both sides you can find people that talk about the benefits of carnivore you can find people to talk about carnivore is going to give you cancer it's the worst thing and both of them are true both there are levels right but that's what I was getting at
Starting point is 01:12:05 is like, if I believe that, later on down the road, if I get cancer or something, I'm like, ah, fuck, they were all right,
Starting point is 01:12:11 whatever. If I don't, then it's like, oh, they were also all right. You know what I mean? Like, I hope that I'm conveying that message
Starting point is 01:12:18 well enough to just say that like, no matter what you invest your time and energy into, that is going to be true for you you kind of have to buy in yeah when people always talk about the buy-in like it doesn't mean that if you believe something that means that everyone else who doesn't believe what you believe is is shit but you gotta buy into what you're doing like we as lifters we bought into fasting which most lifters are going to say that's bad for your muscle it's bad for, we bought into fasting, which most lifters are going to say, that's bad for your muscle. It's bad for strength. We bought into it and we gained some massive benefits and we've
Starting point is 01:12:48 bought into a lot of other things that people would think is wild and stupid, but it's brought us massive benefit. So you really got to let yourself be like, I'm going to try this and I'm going to reap some benefits from it. And you don't have to necessarily turn, you don't have to necessarily take every negative and try to spin it into a positive and try to be necessarily super happy or super chipper or pumped up about every single thing. But I think you just want to do your best to just really not go down that negative path and take on things that you feel are going to be, are going to serve you best and hold on to those
Starting point is 01:13:25 things. And if you have a certain arm routine that you do and you train your arms every day and you got 19 inch arms, sounds like you found something that's pretty good. You know, there's probably not a lot of reasons for you to listen to or to take on somebody saying that you're going to have elbow tendonitis the rest of your life or you're going to have arthritis in your hands because you train your arms too often. You found something that's working well. We've got to trust our gut.
Starting point is 01:13:55 We've got to trust our intuition on some of these things. And when you find something like that, I think that all these things can help you mitigate stress because you found some stuff that can keep you more on the side of happy rather than more on the side of suffering. In Buddhist cultures, they believe that life is half happiness and half suffering. I actually believe that there's a huge part that's missed out on, and I think that people might think this is suffering, but I don't really view it that way, is just idle time. There's stuff that's just neutral. It's just like, meh. But I think that in those times, that's when you need to have a skill set that either keeps you neutral or moves you over towards the happiness side. Let me see if I go on a walk, what that will do for me because there's just ain't shit going on right now. I don't have any phone calls to make.
Starting point is 01:14:49 I don't have any emails or I don't feel like lifting. I don't feel like doing A, B, or C. Let me just see how going for a walk is going to do. And then maybe you go for a walk and it starts raining like crazy out and you're like, shit, maybe that bugs you.
Starting point is 01:15:03 Maybe that annoys you. So you go back inside, but then what do you do? Well,. And you're like, shit, maybe that bugs you. Maybe that annoys you. So you go back inside. But then what do you do? Well, then maybe you're like, well, I haven't eaten yet today. Might as well change my plans. I was going to fast a little longer. Stay on the plan. Okay, it's not going to help me any further to go off plan.
Starting point is 01:15:19 So I'm going to eat steak and eggs. You eat the steak and eggs. And then you look outside and you're like, oh, it stopped raining. All right, I'm going to go steak and eggs you eat the steak and eggs and then you look outside and you're like oh it stopped raining all right i'm gonna go on a walk you know or i kind of feel a little bit more energy because i ate now i'm gonna go to the gym now i'm gonna go get some training in real quick because there's the last part on this i want to mention this look at everything that we bring on to the podcast is like an addition to your utility belt you know how batman has his utility belt he can pull out every fucking where's Where does he get all his wonderful toys? Right?
Starting point is 01:15:46 Where does he get it? At Shark Spray. Shark Spray. But this is the thing to think about. By the way, we like Paul Saladino. I mentioned that thing about Paul because of what he used to say about vegetables. But Paul came on the podcast
Starting point is 01:15:58 and has come on the podcast. He talks about vegetables in a certain way. I will take certain things that what he talks about carnivore and like, Ooh, okay, that's cool. That's beneficial. It's great. And then I'll take certain things about what he says about vegetables, but I know that I don't respond negatively to vegetables and I've never have. So I don't, I don't allow myself to believe that for myself, that these vegetables are bad for me. Like for, and when Alan Aragon came on or Mike Israele and both Mark and I did fasting
Starting point is 01:16:26 and they were talking about how like, oh, you know, for performance or for protein, it might be a better idea just to have a few more protein feedings. Instead of like, totally not fasting anymore. I'm like, okay, you know what? Let me just fucking have some protein during my day when I'm fasting, even though most people aren't going to say that that's fasting, just so I can get a little bit extra protein. What about your autophagy? Well, autophagy, right? But I take this information.
Starting point is 01:16:50 I take what serves me. We take what serves us, and we delete what doesn't. It's like that's what you kind of got to do so you can set up your protocol, your life. What you laughing at, Andrew? Sharkspray. I sent him the clip from Batman of the shark repellent spray. This is like so ridiculous. It is the dumbest thing ever, and I love it.
Starting point is 01:17:16 Oh, God, I forgot we had sound. Sorry. Hey, now. Take her up. He dips him down just enough so he gets a shark on his leg that looks real oh my said holy sardine yeah he did yeah no animal rights back then throwing some good hooks to the body of the shark hopefully we don't get paying for something but check this out this is so good the way that he hands it down to
Starting point is 01:17:53 like they have a lot of it as i said organic i can't see he's still beating the fuck i didn't know he was like in this compromised position for so long. That's legit though. Everybody needs us in their skill set, in their utility belt. Why is it taking so long? Goodness. Oh, you're not playing Pax.
Starting point is 01:18:19 Oh, that's okay. It's suspenseful. You sped it up a little bit. A little bit, yeah. Watch this move by Robin right here. Oh, that hurt. Oh, look at that. The 50 cent.
Starting point is 01:18:33 That's knees over toes. Oh, yeah, yeah. 50 cent upside down. Why did he have to? Oh. And it explodes. Hey, before we get to the rest of the clip,
Starting point is 01:18:48 y'all, y'all know that Robin came out as by a few years ago. Yeah. I mean, I heard about that. Everyone's coming out as something these days. Oh, Andrew,
Starting point is 01:18:56 be careful, bro. Be careful, bro. Because they also made, Oh my God. Oh, you mean,
Starting point is 01:19:02 you mean like comic superheroes? Yes. Okay. That's what you know. You got to clarify that brother. Sorry. I thought we were all on the same page here no there was um fuck is mark rubbing off on you maybe yeah no there's a there was another comic book character and i don't remember who it was but it was just um i don't know i mean i apologize if it's insensitive but no no they didn't make another character but i just feel who it was, but it was just, I mean, I apologize if it's insensitive, but
Starting point is 01:19:25 No, no, they didn't make another character. But I just feel like it was like, nobody was questioning it. And like, I don't know. It just was, fuck, this sucks. I can't remember. Yeah. Oh, well. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:19:35 Apologies to anybody if I offended them. But at the same time, it was like, well, no one cares about, you know, I don't, I don't fuck. Damn it. Oh, it's going to kill me. It was recently, right? Yeah. Ah, anyway. you know i don't i don't fuck damn it oh it's gonna kill me yeah it was recently right yeah anyway um the one thing i remember about the lego batman movie was that they referenced the shark spray oh it's awesome and then i fell asleep and didn't watch the whole thing all right real
Starting point is 01:19:55 quick um there's a few superheroes so robin came out uh something about the, one of his variants did, Batwoman, Green Lancer, there's something they did to him. Anyway, it's just interesting. But, yeah. I mean,
Starting point is 01:20:12 because like, different universes, they have different versions where like, it might be. But like, also like, I don't think, like nobody really cared,
Starting point is 01:20:19 like, I, nobody cared like about like their love life. I, like, you know what I mean? Yeah,
Starting point is 01:20:25 you're right. No, no, you're right. Like, their love life didn't have anything to do with it some of the main characters like the flash always had at least in the tv series always had the thing for the chick yeah it's a really good series but i don't know that's where i was just like man we don't care yeah anyway let's see the rest of this before we go. What are our mindsets? And how might we begin to shift them, to alter them, to have them be more beneficial? So take stress, for example.
Starting point is 01:20:56 What's your mindset about stress? If you're like most people, you have the mindset that stress is bad. Bad, bad, bad. Bad stress. Now this is not surprising, considering that everywhere we look, there's warnings, labels, yelling at us, reminding us about the negative effects of stress. But the truth of stress is not so clear-cut, and in fact, there's a robust and growing body of research showing that stress can have positive effects, enhancing effects on our health, our well-being, and our performance.
Starting point is 01:21:19 Now, I'm not here to try to persuade you that the effects of stress are enhancing, but rather to point out that the truth of stress is like most things in life, and that is it's uncertain. And therefore, to raise the question, do our mindsets about stress determine our response? So to test this question, I worked with Sean Aker and Peter Salovey, and we worked with a group of 300 employees. This was after the 2008 financial collapse, and we decided they were stressed. They had just heard that 10% of their workforce was going to be laid off and they were overworked. So we decided to see if we could change their mindset. And we did so by having them watch simple video clips. So I'm going to show them to you here simultaneously. But half of the
Starting point is 01:21:59 participants saw the one on the left, half saw the one on the right. For those who are watching or listening, I'm sorry. You just kind of got to watch us on youtube for this one there's that music all right back in school again terrible i'm just gonna go ahead and mute it because i was digging that i don't want to get pinged for yep oh you're right on youtube but all right we'll also link everything yeah in essence for the viewers like there's one video going that's saying how stress is going to crush you athletes crumble in critical moments of stress you know it can actually give you body aches and all this and another video showing how stress is going to be great and it gives you adrenaline and it prepares the body for action and a peak performance right so those are the two videos that were played yeah did you want to play any of the rest of it? Yeah, this last part where she...
Starting point is 01:23:05 So here we are. They're watching facts, research, anecdotes, all true but oriented towards one view or the other. What we found was interesting. Those who watched these simple three-minute video clips before the bell rang, before their job began, over the course of the next few weeks reported fewer negative health symptoms,
Starting point is 01:23:23 fewer backaches, less muscle tension, less ins insomnia and they also reported a higher level of engagement and performance at work boom so at this point i presented four studies so a little bit deeper into that too guys is that ali has talked about how in that specific study there was uh an ethical thing that they had to do to make sure that the study was going to be ethical. And the assumptions were that people aren't actually going to feel worse after watching the video that stress is debilitating
Starting point is 01:23:56 because the information that we watch all day long and news, et cetera, is already telling you how much stress is going to hurt you. And if anything, they were expecting an improvement for the people who saw that stress is impactful and it's stress is enhancing. And there was an improvement for the people who got that education
Starting point is 01:24:12 showing how stress is enhancing. It changed how they felt about their day-to-day stress because they're like, I'm stressed, but this is, I can overcome this. This is good for me. This will make me stronger. I think that these things have to become a belief, you know. So you hear people kind of say, fake it till you make it.
Starting point is 01:24:30 Well, you might be able to do that in the beginning. But over time, it's going to have to turn into something a little bit stronger. It's going to have to turn into a little bit more of a belief where you actually do believe the things that you're saying are going to come true. You actually do believe that being positive, staying positive, remaining positive, we're trying to be more neutral. Like the word stress doesn't really necessarily, it's not necessarily a negative word. Sometimes the way people use it, they might lean towards negativity because they might say this year has been extremely stressful. The last two years have been extremely stressful. And normally when people are
Starting point is 01:25:07 talking that way, they are normally kind of pointing out that they felt the last two years had a negative stress impact on them. But if we think about any sort of training that you would do and any sort of learning that you would do really uh there's a certain amount of stress that goes along with it anyone who's ever been to like a seminar before um anyone who's ever took like a crash course on something uh you come out of those things you can barely like see you're like fuck man like that was that was that was a lot right that's and that's not even necessarily uh physical but you took in so much information that it kind of affects you physically as well. And then we know like through like running or through lifting or any of the things that we do, you know, they can be a stressor on the body.
Starting point is 01:25:58 But over time, you know, this machine that we walk around in, the human body, which is the most complex thing ever. We'll probably never fully understand what the hell it does or why we're even here. It is highly adaptive to the environment that it's in. So much so that where you grow up is the language that you adopt, who your parents are, how they walk, how they talk, how they move, how they act, how they react. We just copy.
Starting point is 01:26:26 We copy, copy, copy. We copy everything that we see around us. But what we're telling you here today is you don't always have to take that step into copying the way that everybody always is all the time, especially when it comes to reacting to something. Choose something. Choose a mode of interpretation that is different than stress. You don't have to, you don't have to take on this news as it being stressful. And if you start to develop some skill sets and you start to have a healthier lifestyle, I believe it will continue to be easier and easier
Starting point is 01:27:00 to have, to have like a shield, you know, have a Captain America shield for those things that are coming your way. You have a thing to kind of protect yourself behind and you get an opportunity to think about those things. How am I going to defend myself? Let me hold this shield here for a little longer. Let me kind of peek around. Okay, shit, there's a lot of stuff coming my way over here, but I'm going to figure out some ways to get around them,
Starting point is 01:27:22 get through them and to work them out. And, you know, also what she was mentioning there is, or a big aspect of it, what, pay attention to the things that you watch, pay attention to the things that are on all your social media feeds, the things that are on your YouTube Explorer feed, how much news that you watch, because I mean, I'm very careful about all of that. news that you watch. Because I mean, I'm very careful about all of that. And I think that helps me be careful about number one, the way I feel about things and the way I perceive stress, but also the way I talk to myself about things. You know, you can't necessarily fool yourself into believing something that clearly isn't true because people always talk about, oh yeah,
Starting point is 01:28:03 you know, positive affirmations and as, as beneficial as positive affirmations can be, you know, there's a level of like, I think it's cognitive dissonance. Like when you say something to yourself, but your brain knows it's not true, your brain still knows it's not true. I'm going to be a millionaire in 30 days. Your brain knows that's bullshit. Like it does. But if you can train yourself to talk to talk about things positively over time, you really get on yourself in terms of your self-talk over time, it'll have a positive effect. Um, for example, like whenever I'm about to read something, I always think to myself, what I'm about to read is going to stick with me. Like, cause I, I, when I was younger, I used to be like, fuck, I'm reading all this stuff going to stick with me. Like, cause I, when I was younger, I used to be
Starting point is 01:28:46 like, fuck, I'm reading all this stuff and I can't remember. That was kind of like what I thought about it. But now when I read things, I'm just like, when I read this, I'm going to comprehend it. It's going to stick with me, which changes the approach of which I go about reading. Same thing with jujitsu. I'm going to drill this and I'm going to, it's going to stick with me. Then I, then I start to do things and then it just sticks with me because that's how I enter the situation. A lot of people go into those situations like, ah, you know, if I read, it's just, it's just going to go in one, like go in and out. Right. And if you, if you believe that about yourself, there's no way you're going
Starting point is 01:29:18 to be able to get better with it. Same thing with the maids and exercise. They believed they would close. They believe the benefits and boom, what happened? They probably had maybe had a little bit more oomph and certain things started dropping weight. Blood pressure went down. Backaches went down. It's crazy what this stuff can do for you. Years ago, I stopped using an alarm and I would actually just tell myself the night
Starting point is 01:29:43 before I'm going to wake up at five. And it didn't always work. So I'm not saying like that you can truly rely on just that all the time. But being mindful of stuff is critical. Even being mindful of your food. I'm thankful. I'm grateful for this food that's in front of me. It's going to be nourishing to my body.
Starting point is 01:30:02 I mean, some cultures, some people will pray. Some people will just have gratitude towards the food that's in front of them. These little practices that might take an extra second rather than you just inhaling the food. And if you hunted the food and if you prep the food, maybe you're going to chew it a little extra. Maybe you're going to be a little more mindful. Maybe the taste of it is going to be that much more valuable to you. And if someone told us, someone came in here and said, hey, did you know that you use the amino acids 20% more when you actually hunted the animal and when you actually prepped it and when you actually took a moment to be grateful and thankful, it wouldn't surprise it. We'd be like, yeah, okay, that shit, that sounds like it makes a lot of sense.
Starting point is 01:30:48 What came into my head when we were listening to some of that was kind of these like old wives tales, you know, these things that people mention and they just kind of say, just throw out there, you know, I know that both of you guys have heard this one from your mothers. Don't go outside without your jacket. You're going to get sick. Like, and I'm still confused by that. Like, does getting cold, does that actually make you sick? Because like if it does, then like Wim Hof would be sick all the time, right?
Starting point is 01:31:17 Or just people that live in like Alaska or something, they would be cold all the time. So, you know, your mom says these things repeatedly. And then, you know, over time you go outside without your jacket, maybe it was right after a shower or something like that. And you're kind of wet and you're cold and you get sick and you, you're thinking like, well, it must've been that experience of me being cold without my jacket. My mom was right. And then you, then, then what do do you do you relay that message to your own kid like i'll say that to my i don't say you're gonna get sick but i find myself repeating the same shit my parents said and i'm like i can't believe i just fucking said that i didn't even think of it either i just like blurted out and i'm like oh my god i said the same shit that they said and that
Starting point is 01:32:01 used to always drive me crazy when they would say it to me. Yeah. Like you maybe need to be, yeah, you got to reevaluate the belief systems that were in you since childhood because those can, they can, they can play an effect. But like, for example, cold plunging, right? There's a, you know, there's still a level of friction within my mind that, that it takes for me to get in the morning and step into it. It hasn't become just a routine. Like, let's just dip in. Like I look at it it i go back in the house and i come back out i feel the wind on my nipples and i'm just like and i go back inside the house and i come out i cut the dogs inside take off the cold plunge and i dip my foot in and i'm just like go in right there's still that friction but i understand how good cold plunging is for my resilience and my mind and my body. I understand.
Starting point is 01:32:47 But, but, you know, it's just like, I have to convince myself right now, but I know that once that becomes automatic, it's going to play so many other benefits for my daily life. And maybe it will, because I believe it will. But you know, there's been a lot of research behind that shit. So, Hey, you know what? It's going to make me a it's gonna make me a beast yeah man i i'm so happy to hear that you do go back and forth because i'm just like fucking and seem i'm like how is he doing all of this and then just oh here's a very uncomfortable situation and pop right in pop right out start my day i hate getting a loss on stuff like that man i hate that that makes me nuts i would have been so pissed if i came here without plunging i was really this morning trying to convince myself you get that
Starting point is 01:33:29 you get that l you're just walking around that l all day here on your forehead an eternal l or p because i'm a pussy how cold does it get 40 degrees yeah bro it can go down to 36 degrees if you guys are curious it's called the cold i wish they would do some science like where it's not as cold yeah can it be like 60 that is cold that's like running water like in your house that's really fucking cold shit yeah man that like you know what's crazy too after you after i come out of the cold plunge i go and i take a hot shower i I am still cold when I get here. Like my body is still cold when I get here.
Starting point is 01:34:08 It takes a while for my body to warm up, even if I'm in a hot shower for like 10 minutes. You end up shivering and stuff? Yeah. I end up shivering for like a few hours. Yeah. Even when I'm here. That's supposed to be one of the benefits. It's supposed to be, yeah.
Starting point is 01:34:19 It helps you get rid of brown fat or whatever. But because of the shivering that goes on. You've got a lot more fats removed. We all, we all can see that. Yeah. Oh man. Take us on out of here,
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Starting point is 01:35:09 I've seen you guys leaving reviews for us on Apple. Those of you who are listening to us on Spotify, there's quite a few of you guys. Leave a review on Spotify because that will help us out a lot. And let us know what you guys thought about this stress episode. I think it's something that has helped a lot of us,
Starting point is 01:35:23 all of us in terms of our mindsets, but I think it'll be beneficial for everybody. I just want to kind of conclude by saying, you know, there are people that have mental health issues. And so there's people that have mental health issues that are undiagnosed. They don't go and they get, they don't go and get help. So if you're someone that you feel like you're spinning your wheels, you're constantly having a lot of anxiety, depression, things like that, just do your best to figure out a way to go get some help. And nowadays you can do stuff like online. You don't even have to – it doesn't even have to be as invasive as you going and like sitting on the couch, kind of that old school thing where people go and they see a psychiatrist. I just mentioned that because only healthy people can interpret
Starting point is 01:36:05 what we just said as being able to switch into this mode. Unfortunately, there are people that are kind of stuck and they might not have access to be able just to flip a switch and to start to rethink and reinterpret the way that they think about things. So always want to be mindful of that. Strength is never a weakness. Weakness is never a strength. Catch you guys later.

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