Mark Bell's Power Project - MBPP EP. 731 - Does Making MONEY Make You GREEDY?

Episode Date: May 12, 2022

We are all in pursuit of SOMETHING, whether it be money. to support our family, making an impact in people's lives or straight up trying to make enough money to buy sports cars and fancy houses. Where... do we draw the line? When does a person go from a "blue collar" worker to slime ball? We broke down what Sadhguru said on Joe Rogan's podcast and had ourselves a little discussion. Join The Power Project Discord: https://discord.gg/yYzthQX5qN Subscribe to the new Power Project Clips Channel: https://youtube.com/channel/UC5Df31rlDXm0EJAcKsq1SUw Special perks for our listeners below! ➢https://thecoldplunge.com/ Code POWERPROJECT to save $150!! ➢Enlarging Pumps (This really does work): https://bit.ly/powerproject1 ➢https://www.vivobarefoot.com/us/powerproject Code POWERPROJECT for 20% off Vivo Barefoot shoes! ➢https://markbellslingshot.com/ Code POWERPROJECT10 for 10% off site wide including Within You supplements! ➢https://mindbullet.com/ Code POWERPROJECT for 20% off! ➢https://eatlegendary.com Use Code POWERPROJECT for 20% off! ➢https://bubsnaturals.com Use code POWERPROJECT for 20% of your next order! ➢https://verticaldiet.com/ Use code POWERPROJECT for 20% off your first order! ➢https://vuoriclothing.com/powerproject to automatically save 20% off your first order at Vuori! ➢https://www.eightsleep.com/powerproject to automatically save $150 off the Pod Pro at 8 Sleep! ➢https://marekhealth.com Use code POWERPROJECT10 for 10% off ALL LABS at Marek Health! Also check out the Power Project Panel: https://marekhealth.com/powerproject Use code POWERPROJECT for $101 off! ➢Piedmontese Beef: https://www.piedmontese.com/ Use Code POWER at checkout for 25% off your order plus FREE 2-Day Shipping on orders of $150 Follow Mark Bell's Power Project Podcast ➢ https://lnk.to/PowerProjectPodcast ➢ Insta: https://www.instagram.com/markbellspowerproject ➢ https://www.facebook.com/markbellspowerproject ➢ Twitter: https://twitter.com/mbpowerproject ➢ LinkedIn:https://www.linkedin.com/in/powerproject/ ➢ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/markbellspowerproject ➢TikTok: http://bit.ly/pptiktok FOLLOW Mark Bell ➢ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/marksmellybell ➢https://www.tiktok.com/@marksmellybell ➢ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/MarkBellSuperTraining ➢ Twitter: https://twitter.com/marksmellybell Follow Nsima Inyang ➢ https://www.breakthebar.com/learn-more ➢YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/NsimaInyang ➢Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/nsimainyang/?hl=en ➢TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@nsimayinyang?lang=en Follow Andrew Zaragoza on all platforms ➢ https://direct.me/iamandrewz #PowerProject #Podcast #MarkBell

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Power Project family, how's it going? And listen up. We talk about meat and nutrition all the time on this podcast from the carnivore diet, keto, low carb, IFYM. And the cool thing is that we've partnered with a great company, Piedmontese Beef. Yes, it's beef. And the great thing about Piedmontese Beef is this, no matter if you're someone who's dieting on low fats, high fats, carnivore, any diet, they have different types of cuts of steak that are going to fit your diet perfectly. From the Flatiron that has Andrew, what is the macros on that thing? So that one has 46 grams of protein and only four grams of fat for the entire steak. And if you want fattier cuts, they have ribeyes, center cuts, they have literally everything for no matter what diet you do. So you can't use the excuse of your diet and tell yourself that you
Starting point is 00:00:44 can't eat red meat. So Andrew, how can they get Piedmontese beef? Yes, man. So you can't use the excuse of your diet and tell yourself that you can't eat red meat. So Andrew, how can they get Piedmontese beef? Yes, man. So that's at piedmontese.com. That's P-I-E-D-M-O-N-T-E-S-E.com at checkout. Enter promo code POWER for 25% off your entire order. And if your order is $150 or more, you get free two-day shipping. Again, montes.com promo code power all links down in the description as well as the podcast show notes i'm ready you're ready all right do you say like that like to like channel spongebob or something because i've heard you say that multiple times it's always like i'm ready it is i like spongebob spongebob's good. So I kind of watch, I listen to a little bit of it for the first time. SpongeBob?
Starting point is 00:01:27 Yeah. Wait. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Back up. You never really watched SpongeBob? It's Panthersquare. It's not that I've never really watched it. I've never watched it.
Starting point is 00:01:39 Like ever. Well, it makes sense. Your age group makes sense. And you, it makes sense because you have children. So you mainly watched it. That's my excuse. So it was on at the Bodega Bay House. Of course it was.
Starting point is 00:01:54 It was probably like the default channel. Yes. We were trying to eat food, which I got this from Sean Baker. Steak, apples, and some kind of fancy cheese. Yes. Fucking phenomenal. My family loves it. Mixed together? All together. Yeah. Wow. this from sean baker uh steak apples and some kind of fancy cheese yes it's fucking phenomenal my family loves it mixed together all together yeah wow it's so good it is like on the same plate or yes literally together together like well on the on the same plate so like not not like uh like the cheese isn't like melted on the steak and that sort of thing like all cut up and
Starting point is 00:02:22 it's really really good and then all of a sudden, there's just a really, just loud, high-pitched, annoying, just constant noise. I'm like, what is that? I'm ready. I'm ready. And then Jasmine's like, oh, it's SpongeBob.
Starting point is 00:02:36 And I'm like, we need to turn this off now. Like ASAP. You're such a grumpy old man. It was so annoying. I couldn't, I'm like, It was so annoying. I couldn't. I'm like, people, watch this. This is awful.
Starting point is 00:02:49 Yeah, man. It's A1 TV. Squidward and his clarinet. You know? Patrick and his fucking home base. Do you guys remember the annoying orange? Sexy Sandy. Sandy was hot.
Starting point is 00:03:02 She's from Texas. She is? Yeah. Yeah, Sandy can get it. Texas, yeah, Texans are. I got a little extra junk in the trunk, too. Texans are thick. Sandy the squirrel.
Starting point is 00:03:15 I couldn't stand it. Oh, man. You weren't able to watch it? Nope. Nope, nope, nope. What'd you switch to? Just turned it off. Oh.
Starting point is 00:03:24 Yeah. That's what I do with the tv a lot of times i'm like i don't know what the fuck to do with this thing oh that is that is really really hard just streaming all the different all the different remotes yeah there's a lot of remotes nowadays i sat down the other day because i think so stephanie was out so it's just me and the kiddo i'm like well what the fuck do we do like let's see what's on tv and i'm like i don't what do people watch like that's awesome actually ask you when you said let's see what's on tv did you go to a streaming service did you go flip through channels i tried flipping through channels this was at the house this was a different time and i'm like um i don't know what i'm doing like not
Starting point is 00:03:59 to sound like a fucking like a dick but like i just was like what do people i don't know what people watch like if i'm gonna watch something it's gonna like be streaming something like i'm gonna go to the tv for a purpose yeah and i'm just like flipping around like there ain't shit on like i don't know how come there's not like a home base with streaming so it's like you just have to pick a thing yeah and you have to rifle through that and like having a little timer like this little sand timer that we have for the podcast, that'd be amazing to have that next to your TV because it's like it takes so long to select something.
Starting point is 00:04:30 And if you have a family. You got a shot clock. Yeah. You're trying to figure out like what to watch. It can be brutal, but there's like not an app. How is there not an app for that? Like to know like what's the cool new stuff. I know you can like search it individually, but then you're like on Netflix. And it's like, what about HBO Plus? And what about the cool new stuff. I know you can search it individually, but then you're on Netflix.
Starting point is 00:04:46 And it's like, what about HBO Plus? And what about the other ones? Prime Video actually has a cool little feature where somehow it'll know what else you're subscribed to. So it'll show the most popular things on Netflix or Showtime or Hulu. Oh, yeah, like the app, the Fire Stick. No, like the Prime Video app. The actual Prime Video app. But I was just thinking about this.
Starting point is 00:05:09 But the Prime Video app won't tell you about stuff that's not on Amazon, right? It will. Oh, it will. Yeah, like it'll show you the stuff that's on Showtime and then you can click it and then open that stuff up on the Prime Video app. It's weird. Have you guys ever gotten to this point? Have you ever watched something
Starting point is 00:05:25 and you're like three quarters of the way through and you're like, I've seen this already. Oh, yeah. But it dawns on you way fucking later. You see, when did that start happening to you? What age? Because that hasn't happened to me yet. So I'm wondering, am I due?
Starting point is 00:05:38 Is this like an old guy thing? Yeah, it's definitely an older thing. And like I said, I'm like ahead of my time because I've hung out with nothing but older people my whole life. I said, I'm like ahead of like my time because of my, you know, hung out with nothing but older people my whole life. So yeah, I've done that shit a lot. I'm very aware if I've seen something, you know, I'm very aware if I've seen something. I'm one of those people.
Starting point is 00:05:55 If I start something, I must finish. I did it recently with that movie Dread, like the Judge Dread movie, the recent one. Is it Colin Farrell? I don't know. He never takes off his helmet. But it's with people. And I'm watching it and I'm like, oh, yeah, I have seen this. Anyways, yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:16 So I have them pretty recently, unfortunately. Yeah. Yeah. What were you going to say? You were hoping that there's something else on there? I don't know. On Amazon? Yeah, no, I was wondering because like you might remember as a kid, well, yeah, when
Starting point is 00:06:30 I was a kid, you know, you'd have Nickelodeon and Cartoon Network and different channels and you'd wait for what's on at this time. Right. Kids don't do that anymore, right? Like I'm wondering, kids are probably just watching streaming stuff all the time. All the time. Oh, yeah. Like whatever they want, when they want it.
Starting point is 00:06:44 It's a great time to be a kid. A of youtube a lot of youtube yeah yeah they pick up whatever they want and then now they're they're supposed to be like paying attention in class and stuff i don't know how you would do that nowadays because you don't have to ever pay attention to stuff that you normally don't want to in whenever you have a tablet or phone near you absolutely yeah i like uh it's called my movies anywhere so when you buy like you know sometimes if you buy like a blu-ray or something it's like oh it's got the blu-ray the the dvd and the digital version of whatever even buys dvds anymore i'm just explaining i know but i'm just like thinking to myself does anyone out there buying right anything like i yeah somebody i don't i yeah i think i have a dvd player somewhere in I know, but I'm just like thinking to myself, does anyone out there buying Blu-ray anything?
Starting point is 00:07:25 Yeah. Somebody is. Yeah, I think I have a DVD player somewhere in the garage. Your Xbox is a DVD player. Oh. Anyway, when you buy stuff off of like whether it be one of those discs, whether it be like Amazon or like some other platform where you can buy digital movies. Yeah. It all can pump into my movies anywhere like no matter where you get it from and you can watch that on your fire stick or like any
Starting point is 00:07:49 like your phone and stuff so it's like your digital library all gets consolidated into this one app and it's pretty dope because you could easily load that up pretty quickly interesting yeah every once in a while you're gonna find find a movie that is on Netflix and your son loves it and he watches it every single day and it's going to be called Despicable Me. And then they decide to take that shit off and you go out and you have to buy it. Oh, dude, it's so funny. Did you guys see my brother do the trap bar deadlift with 733 pounds? This is recent.
Starting point is 00:08:20 I freaking wait. I think I saw it. I didn't know 700 pounds. 733 pounds. I guess Andrew's about to pull it up. Yeah. Man, Chris's hips just, he handles out all of it. Titanium.
Starting point is 00:08:32 Fucking amazing. Oh, come on, type. I don't know how he did it. He did this recently, huh? Yeah, he did it just like two days ago. I think he's celebrating like eight years of sobriety or something like that. Damn. It's not so loud.
Starting point is 00:08:49 He just got fired up. I mean, it's a shorter range of motion. He's got the wagon wheels on there and he's got the going with the higher trap bar side. He was like, ah, it's cheap. It's cheap. I was like, no, it's 733 pounds. He's so hard on himself all the time. It's still 733.
Starting point is 00:09:04 That's a lot of weight, man. Yeah, and he did it really easy. I guess he said he, like, misloaded the first time and he went to pull on,
Starting point is 00:09:11 like, 825 and he kind of, like, started tweaking something and he's like, I don't think I should pull on that anymore. And he's like,
Starting point is 00:09:17 oh, whoops, I played ahead of what I thought I was. That's incredible. I don't know how he did that, but when you mix pounds and kilos,
Starting point is 00:09:24 things get weird. Yeah. Never carry the one. Those wagon wheels are a great tool for a lot of people. Because, like, you don't have to deadlift all the way from the ground if you don't want to. Some people are going to be like, eh, it's not whatever. But no, fuck them. That is a deadlift.
Starting point is 00:09:40 They were so smart to come up with that idea. Where do you think it came from? Those people at Rogue, they're so smart to come up with that idea. Where do you think it came from? Those people at Rogue, they're real smart. Anyway, uh, I saw a clip, uh,
Starting point is 00:09:49 that caught my attention. I listened to the clip when it happened in the first place, uh, when Rogan had Sod Guru on, I thought it was a really interesting interview. Um, but I just, I maybe wasn't paying attention to the whole thing.
Starting point is 00:10:00 So there was like a segment, um, where Sod Guru kept repeatedly saying within you over and over again that caught my attention because of the brand within you is my supplement brand um and but i just thought it was a really interesting conversation where rogan was speaking um i think in a very realistic way of like hey this is kind of this is what people think and this is uh the mode of a lot of people. They kind of think in these terms, and he's basically expressing, like, I'm one of them.
Starting point is 00:10:30 I think that these things are greedy. And then they kind of go back and forth, but I thought the conversation was really interesting, and it's always awesome to hear people work their way through it. They still might have disagreed in the end. It kind of sounded like Rogan still had his beliefs and sad guru had his beliefs but um i do find it interesting like you start to peel away a lot of layers of the stuff that we do in modern times and then you you're like well what do i end up with you kind of end up with a whole lot of nothing um in this clip they're talking about money and rogan saying hey maybe some of these pharmaceutical companies are greedy because they already have money they already do really well um but are they literally just just trying to make more money or are they making products that are like are they
Starting point is 00:11:16 paying attention to to potential issues that people have and then they're digging up research and they're digging up information from the scientists and all the people they have working for them. I would imagine most of the people that work for these companies are probably well-meaning people. They probably work very, very hard. They're probably extremely intelligent.
Starting point is 00:11:36 They probably paid a lot of money to go to school and they probably have a lot vested in the interest of moving things forward. I know it's easy just to look at like big pharma and think that they're bad. But you can look at any big company and think that when you start to look at like the companies that manufacture cars
Starting point is 00:11:55 and all these things, but it's like, are they just trying to make a profit or are they trying to make cars that look nice, that run well, so people can transport themselves around easier? So I just think it just brings up a lot of interesting stuff, and that's what I was thinking for today.
Starting point is 00:12:09 Yeah, you know, we can play some of the clip, but it had me think about a little bit of like when one thinks about the individual versus when one thinks about like the collective group. Because when I was paying attention to this clip, I was thinking that when Sadhguru was talking, he was probably thinking a lot about individuals who are getting richer, retaining money, etc.
Starting point is 00:12:32 How individuals, when they're doing things like that, it's like it typically isn't greed. Typically, I think it's like trying to improve, trying to become better right um whereas rogan when he was talking about a lot of that stuff it did seem like he was talking about like collective greed big company greed like when when when a business is formed and then you have to have the business be successful and then you have all these people that are working for
Starting point is 00:12:59 the company at a certain point you can't necessarily think about... You have to think about the company, not the people. You have to think about the company, not the people. And then when you think about the company, there are going to be a lot of people that end up doing well and profiting and some people that are somewhat left with the residual effects that could be negative. Not everyone is benefiting from it. So it's like a tough thing. But when we, like when I think about a lot of things in fitness, I think about the individual. I don't think about how it's going to affect the group. Right. So everyone, it's like, when you play the clip, I think you'll see what I'm talking about there. But that's a really good point though.
Starting point is 00:13:42 Cause like when I think about it, like I'll think about the, the pharmaceutical company, like the person that I don't know exactly the, like how this stuff happens, but somebody invents a new drug that like, Oh, this is actually going to help so many people. But then the company also happens to have like this, like bank of money when shit goes bad.
Starting point is 00:14:00 So that way they can pay people off. And you hear about that. And it's like, Oh, you're just covering your own ass. Like, like you know then you start to get the two uh they start to come together right like oh this person works for this company and now this company is making millions and then when somebody gets hurt they just pay that person some hush money and they keep going and making more money so that's actually a really good point i never really thought of it that way
Starting point is 00:14:24 to distinguish the two different entities in regards to like the person that invented something that truly wants to help people and the company that just has to keep the wheels turning. It's wild. And it's kind of the price of doing business, you know, so a car company could spend money on X, Y,
Starting point is 00:14:41 and Z. And they're trying to make this new, great advanced car in the process make this new great advanced car. In the process of making this new advanced car, they already are aware because they have people that are on their staff that are geniuses. They say, we're going to get sued for that. We're going to get sued for that. And we're going to get sued for that.
Starting point is 00:14:59 So it cost us $2 billion to make this thing. Let's make sure we set aside another $2 billion for the lawsuits. They already know that something is imperfect. Is that greedy? Is that wrong? It's like I make products. It's like you got to kind of get the products out there, and you do have to service the people. So it's hard to figure out.
Starting point is 00:15:22 So it's like hard to figure out. Obviously, there's some really fucked up things that people and big companies have done where they've covered things up and they've definitely twisted the truth to try to advance. But man, is it a gray area because it's – as Saad Guru points out, it's just being like judgmental. Like could someone flip the script and put that on me and say he's greedy? Could someone flip the script and say, well, it seems like Rogan has plenty of money. Why would he even bother doing another podcast? Is he egomaniac? Like what is that for? Like what is he doing?
Starting point is 00:15:57 And then people say, well, you provide for your family and like because you gain more money, then you're paying for more things. for your family and like because you gain more money than you're paying for more things so some people have an understanding of like well it just seems like you are advancing and you're getting better and you enjoy that and you want to keep doing that um but is are these things for some sort of external validation i would say like if i'm being honest yeah i think they are you know so i don't have any problem with saying that um I'm not, I don't only do stuff to like better everybody around me. A lot of times it is selfish. A lot of times it is for me. A lot of times I would enjoy making more money.
Starting point is 00:16:35 A lot of times I would enjoy these things. But I don't, I kind of look at some things a little differently. Like I don't really, I don't really think some of these versions of what somebody might consider to be greedy, I don't really consider them to be very harmful. I also don't think it's harmful to not necessarily always be humble.
Starting point is 00:16:53 I think if you want to celebrate and you want to show stuff and you want to talk about stuff, I think it's reasonable. I don't have any control over somebody else's interpretation of how they feel about something. But Sadhguru hit the nail on the head when he talked about external validation. It's all about external validation. So Rogan, I don't think he's hearing exactly what
Starting point is 00:17:15 he's saying, but whether you're on the pharmaceutical, big pharma company side, or whether you're on the individual side, that individual who may have greed is in the wrong in the first place because they're seeking external validation through trying to be happy. And Sadhguru's entire point is you shouldn't necessarily need that because everything that you need and everything that you, everything that you need is already inside. It's already within you. The answers are within you within you however it gets to be tricky because what if you're a person that needs a pharmaceutical like what if you're sick we can kind of talk about all these cool things and being positive and all these different things but if you're sick
Starting point is 00:17:56 um fuck man sometimes we need that money from that same company that we just said was greedy so yeah it made me think about real quick, Elon Musk buying Twitter. An interesting thing that I saw from quite a bit of people is he buys Twitter for $44 billion, but that could have been money that could have helped. Fuck off. You know, helped lower income individuals
Starting point is 00:18:21 or people who needed it, right? But it's like uh who says it's like that individual's responsibility like he made a company that was super successful and helped him become extremely wealthy now why is it that person's responsibility to use that money that they earned to go and do things. Like it's their money. They can do whatever they want. Now, usually it is uber wealthy people who are extremely philanthropic.
Starting point is 00:18:50 Like Bill Gates has given a bunch of money away, Warren Buffett, et cetera. I don't know about Bezos. But it's like, was that a greedy choice to buy Twitter or was it so that that platform that actually has a, it's literally like a pillar of speech between different political spectrums, was it his responsibility to go there and try to allow everyone to be able to say what they wanted there?
Starting point is 00:19:15 Since there are certain groups that were getting deplatformed and weren't getting a voice on the public forum, right? It's a weird one, but it's like people are calling him greedy because of that choice to purchase Twitter. But it's just very weird. But again, it's the perception of what he did or it's individual's perception of that being greedy or that being something that's beneficial for society.
Starting point is 00:19:40 I heard that there's like text messages between like Bill Gates and Elon Musk. Really? You guys hear about any of that? Yeah. Gates was like asking Elon Musk to donate money to something environmentally
Starting point is 00:19:58 and then... He's like, are you going to stop shorting this stock or whatever in my company? Oh, shit. But then Musk was also like, no one's done more for the environment than me, so go fuck yourself. Basically, he's what he kind of said just because of the cars and whether he has or hasn't, that's debatable. But I thought that was interesting, the way that he kind of laid that out. It's hard to know what people's intentions are, though. Even with Musk, it seems like everyone's all fired up about Musk. Everyone's all pumped about him um but we don't know we don't know what the guy's
Starting point is 00:20:29 gonna do he's like oh we're gonna have this open source social media thing wherever everything's out in the open will everything be out in the open you know will people be able to like i it's it's when you get into like morals and stuff things get to be really dicey you know it's very hard for me to like uh inflict or push my beliefs on what i think other people's morals should be i think that's a mistake yeah it's it's low-hanging fruit and because i want you to finish this one but uh it's low-hanging fruit but what i was just saying it's like okay all the people that are really upset at elon musk for not ending saying, it's like, okay, all the people that are really upset at Elon Musk for not ending world hunger, it's like, hey, the former owners of Twitter just made a lot of money. Hit them up and have them solve all those problems that he didn't because they're all billionaires.
Starting point is 00:21:14 Yeah, they're really fucking rich now. They're all billionaires. Yeah. So first, Elon Musk made a tweet. I don't know if you pulled up, Andrew, but he posted a tweet of Bill Gates, like the pregnant man emoji. And side by side with Bill Gates. And it's like, in case you wanted to lose a boner fast. I did see that.
Starting point is 00:21:33 I liked it. Yeah. But then there is another tweet where he was talking about Bill Gates. He's like, yeah, but I didn't leak it to New York Times. They must have got it through friends of friends. I heard from multiple people at TED that Gates still had half a billion short against tesla so he was shorting a tesla stock which is why i asked him so it's not exactly top secret so after he asked after bill gates asked him to like donate money he's like are you still shorting that stock in my company for half a billion dollars
Starting point is 00:21:57 don't ask me for money oh my god that's so good it's got but it's funny that he makes that all public i think that's kind of fucking hilarious um yeah we should play this let's play this clip yeah yeah paparazzi family how's it going now a lot of you guys are lifters athletes you're serious about the gym and we are too and that's why we've been using slingshot products for years all right you have the original slingshot obviously the glittery pink hip circle which is my personal favorite but if you don't like that then you have the normal hip circle that's used to warm up the hips. But on the website, they have tons of equipment, knee sleeves, elbow sleeves, the gangster wraps right there.
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Starting point is 00:22:50 Maybe I will. This guy's dope, by the way. If people haven't heard of him, you should listen to him. Okay. So what is greed and what is not greed? Well, I'll tell you what greed is. If you make choices where you know that the thing that you're doing, whether you're distributing a product or whether you're causing an action
Starting point is 00:23:07 that is going to be detrimental to human beings, but you cover up the data to hide the fact that it's going to be detrimental because you want to maximize your profit and you don't care about the negative impact it has on people because you're only thinking about money and you're already substantially wealthy. That, by definition, is being greedy, right?
Starting point is 00:23:27 See, by definition, it's like this. Somebody is dreaming of a million dollars. He thinks that is the ultimate goal in his life. But a guy who has a million, he's wanting to be a billionaire. One who is a billionaire, he looks at somebody who has $100 billion. He thinks at least that much he must have. So I'm saying instead of being judgmental about this, human well-being is sought from outside.
Starting point is 00:23:46 That is the whole problem. See, human experience essentially happens from within. Whether it's your joy or misery, comes from within you, isn't it? Maybe somebody or something can stimulate it from outside, but still it happens within you. Joy and misery happens from within you. Pain and pleasure happens from within you.
Starting point is 00:24:03 Agony and ecstasy happens from within you. Every human experience happens from within you. But in pursuit of happiness, we're turning the world upside down. Because this is the case of a, you know, there was an old potato farmer. One day he wanted to eat apples, so he went to an apple tree. But by habit, he started digging for the apples. Till the tree came down on him, because he's a potato farmer. So right now, human beings have become like this. They have gotten used to this, that they think by getting this, by getting that, by having one more thing and one more thing, they're going to be happy.
Starting point is 00:24:34 Yes. But human experience happens from within. If you take charge of your interiority, being peaceful and happy is a natural consequence of that. But for convenience and comfort, we do things outside. To create impact, we do things outside. So this experience of if human beings were naturally joyful by their own nature, they would only do what is needed, nothing more, nothing less.
Starting point is 00:24:54 But right now, they're in pursuit of happiness. You can't stop them. Yeah, they are in pursuit of happiness, but they're also, again, in pursuit of profit because it's a number-based system. So it becomes like a game and you get connected to corporations. When you're in a corporation, there's a diffusion of responsibility because you don't think about your own involvement and what the corporation is doing. You think about your role, what you do as a job, and then you try to maximize profit. And it's a game that people get wrapped up in. Yeah, but that is... It doesn't
Starting point is 00:25:20 make them happy. You're absolutely correct. No, no. It's in pursuit of happiness, but... Well, it's in pursuit of success. See, most human beings cannot be happy if they're not successful, isn't it? There's a lot of that, yes. And then they get medicated to help them get happy. That's what a lot of people – I mean, what percentage of people – Yeah, it's all good. They just go back and forth about medication and shit after that. Yeah, this is an interesting topic.
Starting point is 00:25:41 Like I don't know what the right or wrong answer is to some of that. But I think trying to think about all of your well-being coming from within you is an interesting one. life that you, you know, have just a really high value assignment to, like these people really matter to you. In some cases, some cases somebody makes a post and it just doesn't get that many likes, doesn't go very far. And then your interpretation of that is, I didn't do a very good job. So then it could lead to somebody being sad. It could lead to somebody being mad. It could lead to somebody being depressed.
Starting point is 00:26:25 Like there's all kinds of things that can, there's all kinds of things that can go along with that right and even if you have like millions of followers if it's just lower than what it used to be the uh amount of likes and comments and stuff like oh my god it's not 20 000 or it's not 200 000 uh then that could lead a person person who has not trained some of that before, that could lead them to feeling upset. And so I think one thing to try to do about some of that is to try to train yourself so that you're not so moved one way or the other. But I also think that it can be very difficult so i agree
Starting point is 00:27:06 with both people i guess as my point is like i think that rogan is someone who is a realist and he doesn't mind feeling his emotions and he doesn't mind acting on his emotions because he's very um like animated he's very fired up he's very excited um but he doesn't overreact to stuff either you know he when somebody says something on his show he'll go that's not right like and He's very fired up. He's very excited. But he doesn't overreact to stuff either. You know, when somebody says something on his show, he'll go, that's not right. And then he'll go back and forth with them. And I think that's one of the things that makes his show work so well is that he does have some reactionary facets to him. And I think that sometimes that can be beneficial. You know, it's very reminiscent of like we all get caught up in the hedonic treadmill.
Starting point is 00:27:48 That's kind of what that's called. It's like, for example, you really want a Tesla and you're a lot of the things that you're doing are trying to lead you towards being able to get that car. You envision that car, you envision driving in that fucking spaceship across the street and then you get it. And for like five days, you're like, oh, fuck. Yeah. across the street and then you get it and for like five days you're like oh fuck yeah but then that feeling of oh excitement and happiness from the driving around that tesla it's like it becomes normal it's now your new normal and then you're like what's next it's like that's like as human beings we're always trying to find progress and what he was saying there it's like
Starting point is 00:28:23 well you know it's kind of like what we were talking about when you're trying to go through a transformation or when you're trying to make different changes to your body. Number one, when you get to that new body, you're going to like what you're able to do. But at the end of the day, you're still you in the inside. You're still the same person. person. So at this moment in time with what you have and what you have at what you're doing, can you learn to appreciate, be grateful for those things and love those things about yourself and then seek to do more. But understand that just by the attainment of more doesn't necessarily mean you're going to be happier. You need to try to be happy with what you have now, because there's no external thing with all the wealthy people that we've talked about. Like money can help out a lot of things. Let's not fucking trick ourselves. Like the more money you make, the easier life can get in certain aspects.
Starting point is 00:29:15 But at a certain point, just making more and more and more money won't bring you extra happiness. And if that's where you're trying to seek your happiness from having a car or a certain house or whatever, that's going to become normal. And then you're just going to keep seeking external things when, like you did mention, you have to find that within yourself. I think the biggest mistake is just thinking that there's an end to it. That's probably the biggest mistake. So it's great to have a goal and say, I can't wait until I'm able to make this amount of money. That's going to be awesome. I'm going to buy that new car. That gives me some things to look forward to. And these are things that I,
Starting point is 00:29:50 these are things I expect of myself and I'm going to earn a skill set. I'm going to work for a skill set that's going to allow me to afford these things. And that's going to be my life. I'm going to shape it this way. I'm going to carve out my character. I just saw something the other day where the word character actually means to chisel, to carve out. So you get to kind of, I think you get to carve out the life that you want. It just might be like somebody might
Starting point is 00:30:17 start out with a lot more stuff to fucking carve out than another person. And that's just kind of the way the life is. Unfortunately, we all come from different backgrounds and different spaces and not everyone is afforded the same opportunities. But I believe that everyone does have a chisel that they could utilize to carve out the life that they want. Yeah. And, you know, I didn't grow up very wealthy. We had everything we needed,
Starting point is 00:30:40 but like everything we did it ourselves. Like we never took the car to go get the oil changed. to this day i still change my oil but you gotta show me how i know it's dude on a camera is so easy that's probably in part though your dad's mechanic and correct sound and probably kind of likes a lot of car work right yeah yeah yeah that's it's also not fair because like my dad's just he's an older guy so like or he was born you know a certain time where it's like oh we want a deck outside all right i'll do it like you know he could do everything so man yeah exactly he's a man but you know i just i have to take my car in to get uh some recalls done like they always send me shit and i'm always ignoring it it's like oh
Starting point is 00:31:19 your airbag's not gonna work i'll be fine um, I need to get something fixed on my car. Same thing. I've always bought parts and put them in the car. It was really nice to be on the phone and be like, Hey, I need this PCV valve replaced. Like, can you guys just do it while you're doing all this stuff? Oh yeah, absolutely. And it's like, I didn't ask how much it was going to cost. Like I wasn't, I'm not really tripping about it. Cause like, I know it's going to be fine, ask how much it was going to cost. Like I wasn't, I'm not really tripping about it. Cause like, I know it's going to be fine, but I don't want to go back maybe a year, year and a half ago. And I would have been like, fuck, I have to take care of this myself. It's really nice to be able to do that. Now, does that mean I'm being greedy? Like, I don't like not at all. Right. Like I think
Starting point is 00:32:00 I'm good. It affords me some free time to be with the family like i if i can pursue more of that then i'm all for it yeah like you know the the the greed thing when they were both talking again like when sadguru was talking about it he's thinking like he says man and people like he's talking about individuals and joel's looking at corporations but i do think that like with a lot of things just individuals when they do more and more they're just trying to find a new level of happiness they're trying to get better each individual is trying to improve that's why it is important to look at individual situations not generalize people as groups you know um it's like it it's funny with comments we've seen on YouTube with the podcast, right?
Starting point is 00:32:49 All of our sponsors, we love the shit that our sponsors give us and we actually think it's going to be beneficial for the audience. And we do ads and those ads help us make money because we're bringing the audience something that we actually do like and we appreciate that's going to be beneficial. But a lot of, I've seen comments of people being like, oh, look at you guys being greedy or look at you guys selling on all this type of shit. I'm just like, well, I mean, we're trying to give as much information as we can, but we also do want to make a living. Like we want to be able to do this, learn for ourselves, bring it to the audience, help people become better. But we also need to be able to make money with it
Starting point is 00:33:26 so it's like some people will perceive that as greed and some people will see for what it is it's like we have good shit here we have good shit that we're going to give to you guys so it's perception it's what people think having money is a really nice thing too it does build a lot of convenience like it's nice to be able to do stuff out of this building, you know, with this gym and all this equipment that we have. And it's like, again, I can't control
Starting point is 00:33:52 what somebody else thinks or says, but I think it's beautiful. Like it's awesome what we have here. We have a great team. We've got great people here. I care about everyone here deeply. If other people think that I don't care about people in particularly,
Starting point is 00:34:04 I don't have any people in particularly i i just i don't have any control over that like you guys know how much time i spend with you guys and how much time we all spend together and how much we have uh like invested into each other to see each other get more successful and grow again i don't have it outside of that i you know i i just i can't be hurt by a comment from somebody when it comes to stuff like that, because I feel like at this point I'm impervious to it. Cause I'm like, that's just, it's just inaccurate. Like, it's just not, it's just not the truth. It's not the reality that I live in every day. So I think there's probably a lot of people that are like that. Maybe
Starting point is 00:34:39 occasionally you're going to run into people that aren't, and maybe those people are doing everything all the time just to serve their ego or something along those lines. But I remember having a conversation with Jake, and it's been amazing having a child that is like, you know, growing up and they turn into like a person. You know, they turn into like an adult kind of before your eyes. But kind of even when he was young, because he's a a very smart kid like we've had conversations that are pretty deep i remember him saying something about jeff bezos and he like didn't like jeff bezos or something and he was like yeah i think he's like he didn't say greedy i don't think but he said something along those lines and i said well hold on a second let's talk about it because we always have conversation around stuff like what does that mean what are you talking about um and he's just like well he
Starting point is 00:35:25 just has like billions and billions of dollars and he's the richest guy in the world like he's still like building out his company and it seems like that company's like you know just kind of mowing down everybody else and i said well i said what you're saying is a complaint of a lot of people so there definitely could be some truth to that but when did it become something that you're not supportive of? Because this guy started his business the same way your mom and I started our business, which was in our home. So like, where's the switch? It's like, okay, you're doing great.
Starting point is 00:35:56 That's awesome. Hey man, congratulations. You're a millionaire. Hey man, congratulations. The company makes 10 million a year you know or whatever the number is but then when it was when does it not get to be congratulations anymore when is it like you're an evil fuck stop it yeah you made 500 yeah you made three billion dollars like you should fucking stop i think sometimes people see us in the gym and they think the same thing i think there's like
Starting point is 00:36:21 a joke from a comedian right he's like i forget who said it but you've lost it all the weights bro yeah yeah you should go the fuck home go eat a cheeseburger right i don't know if it was jim gaffigan or lewis ck i think it was jim gaffigan when he's like dude you're done yeah you did yeah that sounds like that was good that actually yeah it was gaffigan it's like you did it on it yeah but i don't know if you know this you did it right yeah you asked the question that i literally just like wrote it down but like yeah where do you draw the line so when it comes to like us and and doing youtube ads like okay you guys have monetization set so does everybody else and it's like oh now you guys do commercials like okay you were cool with one but not cool with the other one i can I can understand sometimes if we were to do like 10 ads per episode, it's like, okay,
Starting point is 00:37:07 shit. Listen, it's not like we're selling penis pumps over here or something. Which we are. That would be preposterous. Want a bigger dick? Click the link in the description. Tell them how they can see. Wink, wink.
Starting point is 00:37:17 You should put a little, make a sound. Ding. Yeah. Or boing. Cash register noise, too. Yeah. It's also bit.ly slash power project one we got it ready yeah that's what it is but you're right though like where do you fucking draw the line like i drive a
Starting point is 00:37:34 bringing up my car again i drive a busted ass subaru that didn't pass mock that's why i need to get this part fixed you guys are cool with me now if I pull up in a Tesla, then it's like this fucking asshole, you know, like it's like, we're, we're, uh, like when do you cross over to the evil side? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:50 Yeah. I think that's, that's kind of like a weird, we know with you that you're already evil. Yeah. It's just, I don't hide it very well. SpongeBob makes you unhappy.
Starting point is 00:37:58 SpongeBob is the epitome of happiness. He's the epitome of human happiness. I've made and laughed at some memes, some SpongeBob memes. They're pretty good. Those are funny. Ooh, but I was actually, happiness he's the epitome of human happiness i've made and laughed at some memes some spongebob memes they're pretty good those are funny oh but i was actually going to mention something because i don't know if you or mark just said it during this podcast but it's like your significant other right it's you right it's a wild responsibility for like you want to be happy around the person you're with and you want to when you're around them you want to feel good and feel better but to expect that somebody can make you happy that that's that's a tough
Starting point is 00:38:30 thing like except when it comes to a blow job hey that never that that'll never i'll never have a frown on my face i'll be real oh man let me let me let me talk about my happiness real quick ah this isn't too much my girl loves to suck my dick oh my god i'm so grateful sometimes i get home she's just like i'm just like yes that's amazing so like okay she makes me happy but at the end of the day too at the end of she's got total control but but but i'm gonna say this like um i i don't expect like if i get into if i'm not feeling up on a certain day i don't think it's her responsibility to make me happy right and it's she also expects like if she's not feeling good, like I can try, but it's not my responsibility to make her happy. And I think it's very interesting when people put that responsibility on the person they're with to bring them happiness. That's a fucking weight.
Starting point is 00:39:34 Yeah, it's a lot. Right? It's a weight. It's like you have to – you kind of have to have that within you. You got to be happy with yourself. You got to be grateful for what you have. You got to be able to do that for yourself and you can't expect that from somebody else. They can add to it,
Starting point is 00:39:48 but if they were gone, you still should be able to have a level of happiness. Yeah. It sets you up for disappointment. Yeah. Big time. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:57 If they don't have it, it's going to be very difficult to like try to, they're not going to really come out of it. They're going to have that. That's going to happen over and over and over again. And I think, you know, one of the things about this podcast is like we've tried to, we try to error correct, we try to learn from our mistakes, and we try to continue to figure out ways of getting better.
Starting point is 00:40:18 And I just like to examine a lot of this stuff. I love listening to conversations that are like that, you know, where people are talking back and forth. Each person is speaking their piece and trying to make a point and trying to like move something forward. It's like, otherwise, what's the value of some of these conversations? And then I just have to always do my best to be open and as honest with myself as I possibly can. And I, then I can kind of make my own judgments on how I am or who I am or, or what I'm, what I'm doing, you know, like social media is a weird one. Like if I didn't shoot this for social media, I actually had Graham ask me one day, cause I was like, at some point, I just need to be away from some of it.
Starting point is 00:41:07 Not all of it, but some of it, especially social media stuff. He's like, then what would you do with yourself? Because he's all about it. He loves it. I was like, the same thing I did before social media. Just still train my ass off and still enjoy the process. That's it. Andrew, take us on out of here, buddy.
Starting point is 00:41:23 Absolutely. Thank you, everybody, for checking out today's episode. I really want to hear what you guys have to say on today's topic about the greediness, the non-greediness, the having stuff within you. It's incredible. I thought that was a really dope way that he put it. And speaking of within you, head over to markbosslingshot.com and check out on the top. We got supplements and it says the within you tab.
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Starting point is 00:42:07 I'm on Instagram and YouTube. On TikTok and Twitter, Mark. Fuck the Black Panther. He's got mind bullet. Oh, he does? He's going to fuck up. Marky Moo. Oh, shit. And Marky Moo is standing on the mind bullet. To be continued. I'm at Mark Smelly Bell. Strength is never weak.
Starting point is 00:42:23 This week is never strength. Catch you guys later. Bye.

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