Mark Bell's Power Project - MBPP EP. 733 - Young & Soon To Be Dads NEED To Know This: Don't Discipline, TEACH Discipline

Episode Date: May 16, 2022

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Let us know how you're liking the show, what you're learning, and just help us out there because we try to bring you the heat. So, yes, thank you very much. We appreciate you guys. I got some really bad news to report. Not a great way to start the show. That's actually not a great way to start the show, Mark. But Graham Tuttle's not around anymore. So I'm sorry to disappoint. Why is everyone trying to hold back?

Andrew Hey, listen I know you guys I know you guys are heartbroken Why are you laughing when you're saying it? I'm not even I don't know I'm not laughing, am I?

He'll be back in a few weeks Oh yeah, he'll be back He'll be back in a few weeks oh yeah he'll be back he will yeah i think so he's gonna keep coming back just i just wonder how he you know he i just wonder how he fucks you know that's right yeah yeah just thinking about how he has sex oh god it's like a feral cat though we fed him oh he's coming back if y'all don't know the reference we keep mentioning this but our homie graham was doing a jujitsu session with my boy julian from jujitsu and julian i know you're not listening so it's okay but i think he saw julian rolling one day and julian's this black belt who moves really well and graham's just like i wonder how he fucks like i wonder how he's so odd it's so weird that's great have you ever just looked at a man and been like i wonder how he fucks i wonder

i have never well outside of like half thor like oh that actually i really that you it's just you have but like yeah no i mean sometimes like yeah if there's like a big part big dude and like a really small girl you're like yeah yeah it's like a sleeve every once in a while you think about it you know but i don't think about it while guys like get on my back like all ready to choke me out you know what that's different this this is one thing that i've just popped in my mind and and it's never because when we're on this topic you're moving better now like you're getting more mobile you're getting more flexible i would assume that i would assume that your bedroom life is a little bit more interesting now since you have more like hip mobility and shit right it

might be it might be it might be there's like benefits to moving no i do notice just in all movement in general that like certain things don't hurt so certain positions i can get into easier and they work better and yeah improvements all around but like losing losing a lot of weight helped with all that too yeah being a fat motherfucker made it made it hard or made it more difficult i should say oh my goodness oh my goodness yeah we miss you graham he won't listen to the show right no no for a fact he's listening he's watching right now oh god he's probably in the comment section hey but graham has changed uh you know he's watching right now oh god he's probably in the comment section hey but graham has changed uh you know he's changed the way we look at feet he's changed the way uh you know we

think about certain things so this guy he's he's a smart dude he's a smart dude y'all should check him out at the barefoot sprinter we had uh ray cash on the podcast the other day and that was pretty awesome and i had opportunity to go and speak to uh some of the men at this uncaged project that they have going on. It was pretty awesome. I was not a guest speaker, and then they just inserted me to talk. So I had an opportunity to talk, and I went about 10 minutes over the amount of time that I was supposed to talk. But it was fun, and it was interesting. amount of time that I was supposed to talk.

But it was fun and it was interesting. I haven't had an opportunity to really talk in front of people in that same way, like where I'm on a stage necessarily. Have you done that before? No, no. I've never done anything like that before. It's been mostly just speaking at seminars and things like that.

Yeah, that was kind of the first time doing that amongst other speakers and stuff too. It was really interesting. But got a chance to listen to Matt Boudreaux. I think that's how we say his last name. Boudreaux. Boudreaux.

And had an opportunity to listen to a couple other people speak, and it was really cool. But Matt is really good. He is a really good speaker. And it's obvious that he has a lot of practice with it. He's real animated and real fired up and all that kind of stuff. But I wanted to share something with you guys that he said because I think it's important. And he said that he often gets asked about his own children because he runs the school Acton Academy, which is in Roseville. And they're starting another one in Sacramento, I think, next year. And he's doing a great job with that.

Big supporter of it. My son went to school there, and I think it's going to be something that when my son looks back, it'll be something that helped shape and change his life in a lot of positive ways. So huge fan of what Matt is doing. But Matt was asked how his own children, sometimes he's asked how they are so well behaved. And they said like, you know, how do you discipline them? And he says, I don't discipline them. I teach them about discipline. So he gives them options to be disciplined. And because they have discipline, he does not have to be like a disciplinarian. And then sometimes, like especially when they were younger, he could say, you know, something to the effect of like, hey, like out of all the stuff we talk about, like was that the right decision? You know, was that the right decision to steal that piece of fruit from your cousin or whatever or to take that toy from that other kid or, you know?

And then the kid can kind of like try to remember like what they talked about and if they don't remember then they can kind of discuss it further but um he has all these like rules uh his like family rules that they live by and i just i just thought it was really interesting and i think teaching children about the benefits of discipline and what they can do for you. Rather than always dealing with short-term gratification of everything, like, oh, I'm going to have ice cream, or I'm going to eat pizza, or I'm going to make this decision right now to be mean or rude to this person in this moment because it benefits me, or no, I'm going to take my time, I'm going to keep to myself on this and not interrupt what they're doing.

And then you get the long-term benefits of being disciplined. So I just thought it was really fascinating and something that I wanted to share. On that note, real quick, I know we're going to talk about something else, but on the discipline aspect of things, I just think about, I slip with this all the time, but discipline is something that's like, it's easy to understand but i think i wonder nowadays as a parent i'm not a parent but if it's something that's harder to impart because uh there are so many easy ways to get quick gratification now

you know that you don't even think about you open up your phone you open up youtube you watch a video you like immediately you open up netflix you get food immediately, or you get everything you want immediately. So like, it's, it's, as an individual, you have to go out of your way to seek some discipline. Like, no, I'm not going to open up Instagram right now, or I'm not going to do this right now. I'm just going to sit here for a little bit. You have to, you have to train that on your own. Right. But then you have to, like, I wonder for you guys, you then have to teach your kid about discipline. And I think it might be easier for a parent teaching a child since the kid doesn't get everything they want as an adult can. But it's just, it's a very interesting thing because it's like, yeah, it's necessary, but

we're in a time where like everything's at your fingertips, everything you want, man. But really, really, truly great things that are things that are like more like honorable, things that are really looked at as being awesome among society are things that take a really long time. Yeah. You know, my wife's ability to swim is something that took her decades to figure out. Then she got school paid for and it shaped a lot of her life because she has discipline that surrounds that. There'll never be anything harder that she'll ever do or go through than two day practices while being a student athlete at the University of Kansas. Like it just won't nothing will ever match that amount of pressure.

Now, she could have harder times because of like stress or, you know, unfortunate family tragedies and things like that. Right. Like you could go through all kinds of different things where you battle your own thing. Like those things are, those things happen. Right. Uh, but, and then same thing with myself, you know, the things that I did in powerlifting, lifting some of those big weights, those weren't a byproduct of me being great or extraordinary necessarily. If there was anything extraordinary about it, it was just a consistency over a long period of time to do something that I really enjoyed and to stick with it. Whether I got hurt or tore something or whatever, I just stuck with it for a really long time. And so hopefully my kids can kind of see those things and say, well with it for a really long time. And so hopefully my kids can kind of see those things and say, well, those things took a long time, but that actually seems

like a really interesting road to go down. And it doesn't mean you have to sacrifice everything. I think that's kind of what some people try to sell you on is like, you got to sacrifice everything. I never, I don't feel like I did that. I did sacrifice some stuff, maybe some social time with some friends and some things like that. But I spent a lot of time with my family. I don't feel like I shortchanged them. I think a lot of people, like, yeah, they routinely talk about this, like, great sacrifice they have to make. And I had never felt that way. One of my – a person I'm a huge fan of is Art Williams. He's a

speaker. He's the guy with the just do it speech. He said that when he was coming up in business, that he was learning that you had to separate out friends from business and that you had to do, you had to do things this way. And this is the way to the top. And he said to himself, if that's the way to the top, you end up himself if that's the way to the top you end up divorced and you end up with no friends then i'm not doing it that way he's like i'd rather be in the middle you know but he was still able to make it make his way to the top he uh is a billionaire so oh shit i did not yeah he sold his company for some ridiculous amount of money life uh lifetime insurance type thing or something like that but uh you don't have to make these crazy sacrifices.

To win a Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu Black Belt World Championship, there's going to be sacrifices, of course, here and there. But it might not mean that you have to sacrifice relationships. It might not mean that you don't have any friends. Like it might mean that for one person. But meanwhile, for another person, maybe they're able to still keep a lot of other things incorporated into their life. It's not the blueprint, yeah.

Yeah, I'm trying to figure out that right now. I think what you just said though, Mark, about – I mean you've said this in the past. Like you don't want to be remembered as the best scroller on Instagram. So like if you want to be remembered for some cool shit, like, yeah, you will have to get off social media. You're going to have to actually get out and do some cool stuff if you want to be remembered for something cool. Relaying that to my 14, well, about to be 14 year old daughter. It's like it's hard to find the right language because, you know, you don't want to be like drill sergeant or like hire Ray Cash to come yell at her or something like that. Because, you know, it's going to push her the wrong way, but then you can't be so soft to where it's

like, I'm going to let her turn into jello, you know, like just melt away into nothing. It's like, I have to figure out exactly how to, you know, present being, you know, kind of a savage in a nice way. Yeah. And I think a lot of encouragement and you're right. It is, can be difficult. Um, I was thinking today with my daughter, and you're right, it can be difficult. I was thinking today with my daughter, getting her to school on time every day, my wife gets worried that she's not going to make it on time. But I'm like, this is her time, not my time. She's late to school. It's on her.

This is her life. This is her career. This is her. Her resume. Yeah, when you're a student, it's like the main thing you have to worry about and focus on. She knows when she has to be at school. So if she spends extra time in her room and I don't get her to school on time, that's not on me. That's on her. I'm sitting there.

I'm waiting for her, you know. My dad mentioned to me, he's like, I dropped her off the other day, but I think we were a little bit late. I was like, you were there on time, right? And he's like, yep. I was like, that's like, I've dropped her off the other day, but I think we were a little bit late. I was like, you were there on time, right? And he's like, yep. I was like, that's her.

It's on her. That's her life. Same thing with my son. When he started messing up in school, I'm like, that's on him. And we have conversations, we've had conversations like,

Hey, you need, can you do better? Yeah, I could do better. I would, I would like for you to do better. If you choose not to do better,

what am I going to do? Am I going to hit you with a ruler? Like what am I supposed to do? Am I supposed to yell at you to show you how much I care, pound my fist on the table? Am I supposed to cry or give you some epic speech? All I can do is just try to reinforce the fact that these are things of discipline and it can help you to be disciplined now to do these things this way. And you could be further disciplined throughout the rest of your life.

However, I also know that's not really true because you're just a fucking kid, 14 years old, who really cares if you're a little bit late to school, who really cares if you miss a homework assignment. It doesn't matter too much, But at some point, at some point, you will get yourself into a position where you're like, I think I could do better. But that's usually just because you found something you're interested in. So I usually tell parents, I had the privilege of meeting Bedros Koulian's son at this event.

He's like 15, and I got a chance to talk to him for a little while, and he was telling me that he plays the guitar and that he does some boxing with his dad and he lifts some weights and stuff. So I told Bedros later on, I was like, I had a really cool conversation with your son. I was like, I talked to him for like 20 minutes. It's pretty rare.

You don't usually get in a conversation with a teenager. It's kind of hard sometimes. And I said, you're doing a good job. And he was like, oh, thanks, man teenager. It's kind of hard sometimes. And I said, you're doing a good job. And he was like, oh, thanks, man. I was like, no, no, no, dude, you're doing a good job. Like, I want you to be in recognition of that. He was like, well, thank you, you know, very much. And I said, don't worry about him.

And he's like, he's like, what? I was like, I was like, he's good. I was like, you and your wife, whatever you're doing with him, like, you're doing a good job. Like, I can tell that even just from the 20-minute conversation that I just had with him. And he's like, you know what? He's like, that puts me at ease, brother. He's like, thank you so much.

It's not easy to try to figure out how to manage these little specimens, but I don't think we need to necessarily have our foot in their ass all the time. But if you set things up from when they're really young, then it's a lot easier. Yeah. I know that part. That's where I'm excited with Aurelius because like I said,

he's having all the good habits are kind of being instilled in him without him knowing. And his favorite things to eat are steak and rice. That's how I'm trying to keep it. You know, on the note of like, I guess, adult discipline, I think it's really beneficial for kids to get into. Well, not all kids have to play sports. But, I mean, I think we've talked about this before, but my experience is playing soccer and playing different sports kind of drilled that aspect of things in practice to get better.

kind of drilled that aspect of things in practice to get better. And as an adult, when starting jujitsu, sucking really bad at it, getting my ass beat a lot for months, actually years. You want to talk about that? Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, no, real talk. Getting my ass beat for years, but continually getting better. That discipline there seeps into a lot of other things. Even though I may not be perfectly disciplined when it comes to social media and other things, I do understand

that to get good at something or to become proficient, it takes a long time to work at it. It's not going to be something that I get the hang of within a few weeks, a few months, or even a few years. I've spent a long time working at it. And if you can, as an adult, if you feel that you have an issue with discipline or you find it hard to get on an exercise plan or whatever or stay consistent, it would be good to find something you're interested in that's going to take you a long time to actually improve at. It doesn't need to be something purely physical. It could be something like the guitar or something else. but to drill in that idea that I must practice to get better, a lot of people don't necessarily have things that they have to actually practice and get better at outside of maybe their job.

Sports are huge, I think. And, and it's a nice thing to sometimes be like more inclusive and say, you don't have to do this or that, but I think you kind of do. I think, I think sports should at the very least be explored or entertained in some way,

some type of sport. Maybe your kid tries a couple sports and maybe they don't like them. Jake never really took to any sports. He didn't really care for them, but I don't know if that's just because he was too young or what the deal was, but he played baseball. He did lacrosse um he did basketball um i think that's probably and he yeah we did a little bit of like football um and nothing really stuck you know for whatever reason nothing really stuck and i i kind of wish i kind of wish

at a young age and i i knew about jujitsu so so I do wish that I would have kind of put him into something like that when he was young just to kind of give it a try. He and I talked about it a bunch, and I just never – I never just took – I should have just took him to a class because he was like, I don't think I really care to do that. But I also don't think he really knew like what it was. But I think that individual sport would be really interesting to get kids into and i know that people have their weird interpretations of what they think like wrestling is or jujitsu is or some of these things but i think it would be fantastic to take a five or seven year old especially a boy i guess it doesn't really matter boy girl but i think especially for the development of a young man and just knowing like my own

journey, um, how confident would a seven year old boy, you know, five year old boy be, uh, two, three years down the road. You know, another thing that, um, came from Matt speaking at this conference is he said, he said, my son holds, his son is six years old. He's like, my son holds the door for, uh, ladies all the time for women in general. So he holds the door for his mom. He holds the door for his sister. Um, and he'll hold the door randomly at like Starbucks for anyone.

Like he, he like takes pride in it. He gets fired up. He like runs to the door and he opens the door and everyone's like, oh my God, this is amazing. And he goes, so that six year old kid, he goes, that's a different animal than another six-year-old kid. And he goes, imagine that same, and he just said animal. And I just thought of it like, wow, that's just a cool, interesting way to like kind of put it. He goes, imagine that animal at 16.

Imagine that animal at 26. He's like, is that kid going to be afraid to go ask a girl on a date? He's like, probably not. He's like, because he learned this respect for women at a young age, and he was always trying to be courteous and stuff like that. And I was like, man, that's really, really fascinating. But having your kid involved in a sport can teach them so many different things. And I just think that the reason why I would say like, I would encourage it very heavily is just because I don't know

if parents have enough time. And I, I, I know this from my own personal experience. Parents don't have enough time just, just in seeing and observing. And maybe I was that way before. I'm not sure. Cause it's hard hard to have a good view of yourself, but it's hard to really explain stuff to children. I think that what some folks are doing when they raise their children is they explain stuff along the way. Other people may not feel, I think in your mother's case, being a single mom, it was hard. So she's just like i'm just going to instill discipline because this kid otherwise this kid's going to run wild he's got a lot of energy so i'm going to get him in the weights i'm going to get him in the soccer like he needs to go and like run this

shit off because i don't know how i don't know how i'm gonna deal with this rambunctious boy that wants to do all these things and so in cases, sometimes people don't feel like they got time to explain it. So because you did X, Y, or Z that I don't agree with, I'm going to hit you and you better learn from that or you're going to get hit again or you're going to get sent to your room or you're going to get whatever the different things are. There's other parents that might feel that they do have a little bit of time for it and they might try to actually explain stuff to you. Both techniques can work really well. But again, I just think a lot bit of time for, and they might try to actually explain stuff to you. Both techniques can work really well, but again, I just think a lot of parents

don't feel like they have the time, and so I think you have to find some sort of alternative for your kid to grow, and trying to get them involved in a sport, I think, is a great way to go. For Americans, maybe the hitting thing doesn't work as well for them. We got disciplined in my household, though, too,

but I just didn't get as much of it because I saw my brothers and I was like, my dad would hit us with a belt and everything. I was like, man, that seems like some torture type shit. I remember getting hit when I was young for like, my oldest brother

of course wrote something gross on the bathroom window because there was steam from the shower. He wrote oldest brother of course wrote something gross on the bathroom window like because there was steam from the shower he wrote something about something butthole or something or asshole or something he used some foul language or whatever oh yeah totally

and like you know he could have been like hey I did it you know don't hit those two but he's an asshole you know so I didn't even know how to write. Like I didn't, and I remember getting my ass beat for that. And I was like, man, this is crazy. But like, you know, I think, but I still learned from that experience.

Like I learned, like, don't use dirty words. Like don't write dirty words where my parents can see them. If I'm going to have dirty words, like keep them to yourself that kind of thing yeah i remember getting hit with the belt and like i remember even my sister remember remember she's like oh i remember you got hit in the like across the back it's like your little head just like snapped back and you just ran off crying yeah i remember that too that shit hurt good times man good times but you know when i look back at that like again my mom didn't do that out of like it was no anger or whatever it was disciplined because that was the way she was disciplined and that was the way her parents were disciplined

um but i think about it like if if i have kids i don't want to have to spank them like honestly i don't think it i don't think it's necessary. I hit Jake like once. I'm like, I'm never going to do that again. That sucked. I know. But I don't blame her. There's no level of blame or resentment or anything. When I look back at it, I laugh.

I think it's healthy in some ways. It can't like – I think it – I wouldn't actually say it's healthy because I guess having so much information about disciplining kids nowadays, especially with how it spread. Like when my mom was a mother or when her parents in Africa were like parents, there was no books. There was no YouTube videos on like the best ways to discipline your children psychologically. You know what I mean? You're on timeout. That shit don't work. That's the timeout. There was no YouTube videos on like the best ways to discipline your children psychologically. Blah, blah, blah. You know what I mean? You're on timeout. That shit don't work.

That's bullshit. If my mom tried timeout on me, I'd laugh. Yeah. You'd be like, I'm on timeout. Not only that, but your mom's probably like, wait, what time? Like he doesn't have his own time. I do think like when you're certain ages, it can be appropriate for there to be like some sort of contact of some kind or some sort of, I hate to use the word scare because it sounds so awful to do to like a little kid.

But yeah, three, four years old, maybe even like almost five, showing that like this is something that you can't do. You can't run into the street. You can't do something like real, like you pushed your sister down the stairs. Like that's something you can't you can't run into the street you can't do something like yeah real like you pushed your sister down the stairs like you that's something you can't oh i gotta like you know maybe i just maybe i just grab you and say you can't do that you know or something it sounds so awful to like say it when you're not in the heat of the moment but any parent that's been in those moments i don't know what other way to get the message across man this makes me so curious because like i i look at this i'm just like god dang i need to get the message across. Man, this makes me so curious because like I look at this and I'm just like, God dang, I need to study the hell out of like disciplining kids.

Because when I think about how complex this is, I myself, I was spanked a lot, right? I don't, first off, I don't look back at it negatively. You still like to be spanked. I don't look back at it with any type of resentment. Maybe I had, because I like being spanked, maybe that's a trauma response. That was a joke. I don't like being spanked. But I will say this.

There are a lot of kids who may have been spanked just like me, but they don't come out becoming adults without trauma. Like they feel like, oh, I had a traumatic experience. I don't look at it that way. But some kids really do. And it makes you wonder, is that okay? Like, you don't know who's going to come out of this unscathed. You know, you don't know who's going to come out of this and feel that because they were spanked. Now they feel they need to be physically whatever on another individual, right? I never felt that way, but I damn know that some people definitely do. So you don't know who's going to come out of it.

Well, you know, my oldest brother was that way. i think that he felt that he grew up in like this more chaotic household but the household was chaotic because of him he was always up to some bullshit you know so like my dad i don't think my dad particularly like loved you know hitting us he just occasionally needed needed to because he didn't know what else to do. And it's almost like working in a business where one person's coming down on another, and it's like, I'm not getting heat from this person, so I'm going to yell at that person. So my mom would give my dad an earful when we get home from work. And my dad would be like, man, I don't know what the fuck's going on. I've been at work all day.

And the easiest thing is just like after dinner, like, all right, you're getting the belt. And my brother was always up to some weird shit though. Like he drank really young. He smoked weed really young. He was always pushing the envelope because he was the oldest probably. And just, he'd always get caught.

Always the stupidest stuff my dad knows everybody in town my dad's like the nicest person in the world so my dad would go to like he would go to like the deli in the morning or something get the newspaper and coffee and uh the guy would somebody would say oh uh how'd your son enjoy the concert last night and my dad would go what he goes oh mike he went to the concert with my son. And my dad's like, oh, okay. And then my brother snuck out of the house or whatever. But for some reason, my brother wouldn't ask, I think,

because my dad was pretty heavily involved in the church and my mom was very Christian. So any concert you went to at that time, Dad was pretty heavily involved in the church, and my mom was very Christian. So any concert you went to at that time, my mom always thought everything was satanic. Those guys are satanic. My mom wouldn't let me fucking read Harry Potter because of witchcraft. Yeah, right? That makes sense, though. I know, but still.

A family member of mine still fully believes that Metallica is satanic. She's like, I know that they worship the devil. Oh, my God. I'm like, okay, hypothetically, even if they did worship the devil, I still like their music. And their music doesn't say anything about the devil, necessarily. Oh, my God. She's like, no, they worship the devil. I'm like, okay.

That is funny, because it's just loud right so people are like oh that's devil worshiping music yeah it was metallica y'all are gonna fucking flame me which one was the one that painted their faces black and white that's metallica right with the crazy hair that's kiss that's kiss yep my bad my bad i'm about to get flamed no no i don't think it matters okay doesn't matter to me okay yeah but they didn't worship the devil either i don't think any of those guys worship the devil well they go like that make weird faces and use a lot of paint i'm just like guys that like wear makeup i mean come on yeah they wear makeup not that intimidating i'm just imagining your dad like coming home from work like a long day and then your mom you know in his ear telling all the shit that you know the

kids were doing he's just like like sorry kids like this is from upper management i have to do this because that's my job i want her out of my ear so i have to be in you have to get all up in that ass so that way i can get her to calm down that's funny exactly that's a power project family how's it going i want to tell you guys about the legendary tastyasty Pastry. And we've talked about Ben & Jerry's and snacks and stuff on the podcast. But those can go against your goals. They can be too calorically dense. And they can really make you crave more bad foods.

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to the podcast wait andrew i have a question for you so like i mean you're a fresh new fresh new papa um you you're gonna lay that lay that hand on aurelius like you got better tactics i dude i honestly dude like i can't imagine doing anything like that to him like this like you should see me like you know i'm like oh like my back's a little tender but like yesterday he like was falling toward like he was because he walks and he'll kind of like like a drunk little man he'll just like a little tipsy and start going one way uh-huh and like i'll cover an entire room from sitting on the floor to like diving to make sure he doesn't touch like his head like very softly against like something like a hard surface. Yeah. I was like, I can't see this kid crying cause it,

it kills me. But I was thinking about this the other day, like, like, damn, what if like I, cause I, my biggest fear for him and my daughter is there,

there's such good kids that they're going to like almost like a people pleaser, right? Like where it's like, Oh, they might have a friend of a friend that's like a shithead and they might get caught up in something you know and like he might get in huge trouble like uh guilty by association or whatever he might have done some dumb shit because he's like oh well they were doing it so it's like you know so that sort of thing so like i think about the i was thinking about these things and i'm like man i don't know like i i just know that like right

after i did some dumb shit and like i'm freaked out about everything like i can't know like i i just know that like right after i did some dumb shit and like i'm freaked out about everything like i can't speak correctly like i can't tell you why i did what i did and i can't tell you what i think is the proper punishment or whatever even though my parents never said that but so in my head i'm just like okay and what i don't know if this would work but like let's say he gets in trouble with something driving home. Like, you know, he knows he's in trouble. He's probably going to be quiet.

It's like, dude, what's like the number one thing you want to eat for dinner tonight? Like, uh, what, you know, how many confused and stuff like you can have dessert. You can do whatever you want. Like I, we're going to have a conversation later. I'm like, but right now I need you to calm down so that we can get your thoughts together. I don't know if that's going to work work because i it's almost like rewarding him in that moment but what i just want is to for him to be completely honest for him to know that he's like he's in trouble but he doesn't have to be afraid of anything because like i know for us it was like oh shit like dad

found out like i'm fucked i'm gonna have to fear'm going to have to lie and do whatever I can to try to suppress the ass whipping that's coming. Yeah. So I don't want that. But again, I don't know if that's the right approach. I just know that like, just wait till we get home because- Yeah, with fear comes lying, right? Yeah. And so that's what I want to try to avoid.

And I'm sure veteran parents are going to be like look at this rookie like they're going to be walking all over him but i don't know man it's hard because like with my daughter like she's such a good kid like we've never had to really do anything like there was only one time when she was a kid where like you know we were explaining mark like she didn't run into the street, but she like, uh, we were at a, like at a park with a bunch of other kids. And she's like, oh, I'm going to go down this slide. And so, okay, we're going to go to the front and wait for you. And then she just like ran off somewhere else without telling us.

And we're like, uh, she should have come down the slide by now. Yeah. And then, so that was like, you know, her mom, like, you know, like you can never do that. And like, you know, she shook her, she scared her, scared her you know when i say shook i mean like she got shook she's like what i was just doing what i always do it's like no you you left but outside of that like she's so good at like just being a good kid it's like yeah we've never had to really discipline her which is amazing so just keep doing what we're doing i guess but for him yeah i that's that's kind of like the weird scenario that was playing in my head i because i i just don't in the moment right now or as of

right now i don't think just like spanking is gonna be the answer for it uh we'll see what happens if he you know is a little bit younger and he does something where it's like whoa dude like you can't drown the dog or whatever you know's just something weird happens. I can't imagine like physically striking him right now. I think giving it time is always the answer. I think it helps a lot. Sometimes what they did or said is actually really funny. uh called called somebody in their school uh lord farquaad from uh yeah from shrek from shrek okay and uh he got he got a lot he got like a lot of trouble for it and was the teacher short or some shit like it was it was another student oh you know because of like the haircut the person got

so that's what i said i said it's really funny so i was like let's get the facts like does the kid actually look a little bit like lord farclock because if they do that's good then yeah then that's good like he nailed it but if they don't then like he kind of fucked it up a little bit but i think just given whatever the situation is, that's just funny, right? That's not really that harmful. Okay, yes, you did make fun of another kid and you did hurt their feelings. So there should be something that gets addressed there with saying like, hey, you know what? Come home and share that with me and we'll laugh about it together.

But don't say that to the actual person. That makes sense, yeah. But I think, yeah, trying to give stuff time. A kid writes on the wall or puts paint on the wall or something weird and does something crazy. In the moment, someone might be really mad or a kid damages something that you use often that you actually really, something that you like or whatever, because kids will damage all kinds of shit. Then you just have to kind of think about,

you got to give it some time because there's no reason for you to be all wound up. Like, if you're addressing something mad, then how are you going to actually teach them what's going on? So I don't think being mad is, I don't think it's effective. I think all you're doing is showing them that like being mad can be effective, which I don't think it's great. My son never responded well. Like he would just, he just didn't care. Like the madder I got at something, like the less he cared. Cause sometimes I was like, well, maybe I need to get a little bit mad every once in a while. And I would try to be mad, which I'm not good at, I don't think, but I would try to be mad which i'm not good at i don't think but i would try to be mad and then he cared even less so i was like all right that didn't seem effective so maybe i should just explain shit to him and so i'd usually give stuff a little bit of

time when they're done crying or done getting over whatever the hell it is that went on then you have a conversation with them yeah my nephew got in trouble for singing sir mix a lot i like big butts song i'm like really got in trouble for that it's like well yeah i'm like did he get the lyrics right like if he did then dude high five like i got no problem with that of course nobody else thought that was funny yeah it was a good song like yeah great lessons within it too yeah but i was gonna say culturally you know when you look at african cultures and when you look at like mexican cultures um asian cultures you know you what you see is there

is usually with when children to adults there is supposed to be huge uh reverence for those who are older than you you know huge reverence you don't talk back to people older than you. You don't call people older than you, their first name. They're all your auntie and uncles. You would not dare call them by their first name. Right. Um, and with that, there is, I think when a lot of individuals from our, that are OGs of those cultures, when they look at children, they're like, Oh, why, why is this child speaking to me in this way? They, they have no right. you know what i mean so bam pull out the belt like discipline them like what you think you can question me you dare question me here's the belt but that's that's like the cultural thing that's why like when i

when i saw some of my white but some of my white friends talked to their parents in certain ways i was just like you called her nancy you called your mother nancy like what you said nancy what no no no no no no i'd get my ass beat if i dare call my mom my first name but but this is the thing because of that when children like i know a lot of african kids that like they just didn't talk back to their parents they didn't question anything because there wasn't like that conversation wasn't open because that's how their parents were taught. That's how their parents were taught. But I do think like, Andrew, what you were saying, I don't think like when I have a kid, I don't think it's going to be necessary to spank him or her because you would assume that it's good to have a healthy dialogue with children. Not all the time do parents have the time to do that.

So instead of having a dialogue and explaining things, it's like, just whip the ass real quick. Like, they'll get the point, right? But if you can have a dialogue with them and teach them in that way, then they'll probably be able to become better adults who are able to have good dialogues. Because, again, just because I was spanked and ended up okay, and both you guys were spanked and ended up okay, some kids aren't. Some kids don't. And I think it does take more time to figure out approaches

that don't require the belt. But I know some kids who weren't spanked, and I'm just like, wow, you're a great person. You weren't spanked at all? I mean wow you you're a great person you weren't spanked at all i mean shit my girl wasn't even my girl was never hit as as a kid or a routine never she's great i'm like surprised i'm like hmm you're not weirdly fucked up in any weird way it's like and she might be thinking the same thing too like wait you got hit and you're not you know all fucked up no right it's it's tough that means we need a good book we need a good

book on this yeah or lots of good advice i don't know anyway yeah i mean i don't know like i don't know if like me and my brothers or my brother and sister like if maybe we didn't get hit we'd be better at expressing ourselves because like that's an aspect bro because so i say that because uh i won't put out any personal information but like we all are going through like things mentally um and in this book that i'm reading by john sarno healing back pain he i'm learning about tms tension mitocytus syndrome one of the examples he gave was uh and this is this is really fucked up this is what i would never do but when a one-year-old would get fussy and start like kind of raging yeah the mom would get cold water and splash his face and then he would stop so he learned right

away and when he's like kind of out of line like oh i get i get something bad happens when i express mine like oh i get i get something bad happens when i express something that happens so naturally he represses everything end up having like chronic back pain forever so yeah i don't know like i don't know if that that i might be a different person if i didn't get spanked but i also might be a different person if i didn't get spanked, you know, who knows where the fuck I would be. So it's, yeah. Who knows? I think having some connection to like religion or culture can be really effective for people.

Cause it gives you like a little bit of a blueprint of like how, like how you're supposed to conduct this stuff. Um, they say, you know, they say like it takes a village, like raise a child. And I'm a big believer in that.

Like you don't literally need everyone around all the time, but, um, They say like it takes a village to raise a child. And I'm a big believer in that. Like you don't literally need everyone around all the time. But there's got to be a lot of support. And I think from a parent's perspective, whether someone hits a child or doesn't hit a child, I don't think is the making or breaking of a good parent or bad parent. or bad parent. But I think that there does have to be some sort of way that it's communicated that you're going to have some sort of discipline instilled in the child because otherwise all hell can break loose. But that doesn't necessarily mean that it has to be militant, that it has to be run in a militant fashion.

I think that you can present children with a lot of options. And the things that kids think, I mean, I mentioned this several times before. When I was a kid, I told my dad that I wanted to live in a castle. There was a place in Poughkeepsie that we would drive by all the time. And it was like a club. It was like a fitness club. It had tennis and it was like it was like a club it was a um uh like a fitness club it had it was like had like tennis and it had other shit in there i don't even know if i ever walked foot inside that place but it like went out of business and it was just always sitting

there and it had like a castle like shape to the outside of it and so i was always fascinated with it and like at seven or something i was like i'm gonna live in a castle someday and then rather my dad like squashing my dreams or telling me that's dumb or like, Hey, you can't, you know, you can't do that kind of thing. Or like, well, you know, normal people that just live in like a regular house or home, like that kind of deal. He was just like, are you going to have a moat? And I was like, what's a moat? He's like, a moat is like the thing that you put like, uh, you know, that's the water that runs around the castle so that people can't just come in willingly.

And he goes, and then you have a drawbridge. I was like, oh, yeah, yeah, moat. I was like, I'm gonna have alligators in there. He goes, oh, yeah, of course. You know, so my parents always encouraged like dreaming, like rather than, I know some parents, they'll get frustrated. Their kid will dance around. The kid will do this and do that.

And they're like, hey, you know, we're in the grocery store, like behave yourself. But imagine telling that kid, like, hey, those are some sick moves. Like, what if you encourage like dance? What if you're like, you like to dance all the time? Maybe we should go to dance class. Maybe like, okay, maybe the grocery store is not the most appropriate place because maybe you're dancing, you know, irrationally in front of this grandma that's behind you or whatever. But maybe you can say, when you get in the car, say, hey, like I don't really love it when you do that that way because, you know,

it's distracting and it's whatever, whatever the hell your stupid reason is that they can't do that for. And encourage them to maybe, you know, hey, maybe you want to go in a dancing class or maybe you want to try an acting class or maybe you want to try. acting class or maybe you want to try. So just encouragement, I think, is the biggest thing. And then presenting options. It's the same thing with the food.

You can keep eating the same shitty food over and over again. We can keep serving that to you. Or I can start to give you options. Like, yes, I understand the French fries are good. But what if I, again, it's going to take longer for me to dice up some potatoes throw them in the oven throw some olive oil on them throw some salt on them they're going to taste fucking amazing but it will be a different option that doesn't have the same amount of calories yeah talking to sean baker and um his son's awesome won't go into details because his son that's

personal stuff but i was explaining to him like you my kiddo, like he just loves eating steak and rice. You know, anytime we kind of mess with that formula, he gets a little upset, but then he'll eat, you know, whatever. And, you know, when I say like mess with that formula, like whether it be like, oh, let's try like potatoes this time or let's try this, let's try that. It takes a, it's a little bit of a, you know, I guess I'll say learning curve because he's still literally learning how to eat. But what he explained to me was huge. And this is why I'm such a huge, like, like I'm very strict on this when it comes to outside sources or, you know, outside foods coming into his diet. top 1% of the entire population by how you're feeding him. He's like, if you look around, he's like all these other kids, you know, eating candies, eating certain different ways. He's like, that's putting them out of that 1% and just kind of making them a normal person. He's like, by keeping him

on this strict, not strict diet, but keeping him on this like clean diet, he's like, you are setting up his future so well right now. And we had to run to Walmart to drop some like extra cables and stuff and literally on the way out there was a mom saying like okay yeah we're gonna go get icy and uh something else and i'm just like dude that kid couldn't have been no more than three years old you know i'm just like holy shit like i can imagine your kid's just going to be missing out on potentially obesity, diabetes, cavities. It's all stuff that he just doesn't need, and he doesn't even know what the hell's going on,

so why not feed him the best stuff he possibly can? That's what I'm saying. And then, Suma, you had mentioned, oh, is it easier to instill discipline? On the food side, it absolutely is because he doesn't know any better. And, yeah, everyone's like oh he's gonna like let him experience this and da da da and it's like well i don't want him to experience you know freaking obesity like you know it's it'll be cool when he's seven and he can talk about it he's like that chocolate chip cookie was awesome it'll be cool when he can talk

but for now who cares yeah i always joke around because they're just like, oh, when are you going to let him have a piece of cake? And I was like, on his 21st birthday, I will give him the option of that or like a million dollars and I'll let him choose. I was like, I set up some crazy hurdles for it. But I'm just like, dude, there's no point in giving him bullshit right now. There is a huge benefit to giving him good food right now, though. Dude, it's like, you know, you're, you're, you're, most people are doing one thing and they think it's right the way that they feed their kids, et cetera. And I'm not passing judgment on those individuals, but you're setting up your kids to be different

than, than, than the majority of the population. A lot of children who end up being overweight and obese, it's not even those children's fault. It's just the lack of education that their parents aren't able to get. And it's unfortunate because it's like there are certain messages as far as food that are being sent to parents that then parents that are raising their children vegan. It's like, God damn.

The want of well-being is there. This isn't coming from a place of, I want my child to be unhealthy. This is coming from a place of, I want my child to be super healthy. But all of the things that their children are going to miss out on, on development, the development of their, their face, everything on the amount of protein that they're going to be able to absorb from those chickpeas. Like it's not coming from a place of malice or trying to harm their child but it's it kind of is though it's gold but it's it is it is but it's not coming from that spot so it's it's just you know you keep doing your thing that aurelius man that boy's gonna be fucking yeah he's gonna be up there i'm i'm so excited to watch him grow but i don't know if you guys got a chance to watch the video I sent from what I've learned. Yeah, a great video. When he was talking about, so, right, yeah, gram for gram, you know, peanut butter and jelly sandwich and whatever couple ounces of steak might have the same. You're referencing Game Changers.

No, he references that on this as well. But, yeah, on Game Changers as well. and but he he breaks down like the the amino acids how you're like yeah you might be getting gram for gram amount of protein but the amino acids and the profile is just like so empty it's just wow i never i didn't know that shit like i knew obviously like um you know full spectrum you know nutrition all that good stuff but the way he broke it down was so good yeah they got rid of talking about crude protein i don't know why but years ago that was a thing like when whey protein first came out they were like oh whey protein boom it's at the top uh had like a rating of like 114 percent or whatever i don't i forget how they come to these

ratings or whatever but i think it goes whey protein i think beneath that is eggs and i think underneath that's beef and that's exactly what's in a steak shake, ladies and gentlemen. Drum roll, please. And by the way, guys, we're talking about like the amount of amino acids in protein. So like, for example, an individual who's vegan has to eat like, first off, way more grams of protein and a variety of different food. Yeah. Not just more calories. They'll have to intake more protein from those food sources because the amino acid complex of those vegan proteins. It's not as bioavailable.

It's not as bioavailable as eggs, meat, whey. And the same thing is true of whatever the nutrients that are in there, your body will not absorb it as well as it would absorb the same type of vitamins or minerals from a animal source. We'll link the video literally in the description because it's an amazing video from what I've learned. He also made a video recently about fasting. That was pretty damn good. I don't know if you guys saw that either. It was a recent one but it's it's a good one

it's a really good one and more so on prolonged fasting rather than intermittent fasting does he make a video on parenting i know for real what i've learned make a video to teach us how to be great i did have another parenting question for you mark did you find any success in like taking stuff away um i see it quite a bit where it's like, ah, he messed up, so taking away his Nintendo Switch or whatever. I don't know if it works. Normally you're trying to take away something that they probably shouldn't have in the first place.

So that makes it really difficult. Like, ah, you're going to take away their phone, but they're seven, should they have a phone anyway? That makes it really hard makes it really difficult if you are introducing something really early in their life uh their friends have it so they feel that they're missing out on it um it's not an easy it's not an easy thing to navigate you're you know you you want to you want to give your kids like what they want like you think that that's important.

I have to get my kid this thing, but you'd probably be better off buying your kid a soccer ball than you would an iPhone. However, in sometimes taking stuff away, I don't know about taking it away necessarily as having rules to use it maybe might be even better but having rules makes your job as a parent harder do you have time for that or are you going to let that slip away and are you teaching your kids that you're kind of lazy when it comes to discipline because you only halfway half-heartedly tell them hey you're supposed you're not supposed to use that right now so once you start to make rules then there's got to be an enforcer of those rules. And how on the hook do you want to be for that? Because I think it sends a message to the kid that like, this was only a thing as long as my dad reinforces it all the time. But as soon as he doesn't reinforce it all the time, I'm going to get away with doing what I want to

do. And like, I think that's kind of shitty. So I have always tried to not make a lot of rules because I don't want to have to like enforce the rules all the time. I'd rather present information to them and say, I would prefer if you chose to do that after you did your homework and try to reinforce that over and over again as much as I can. And some of that you do have to kind of police, especially if they're younger. as much as I can. And some of that you do have to kind of police, especially if they're younger.

But yeah, taking stuff away, giving it back. It's like, I don't even know if parents really do that. Like they don't really follow through with it. Like you can't have that for a week. And then it's like three days goes by and the kid has it again. I think that you also might be making the kid more and more obsessed with the item that they have. Leading by example is always the number one thing.

You could say, do you see me with any digital device when we're eating dinner? Do you ever see me with a digital device anytime that we're eating together as a family? They have to be able to say no in order for you to be able to kind of hold tight on that. Do you see me messing around on my phone, you know, before I get a lot of my work done each day or like whatever the things that you can kind of point out, hey, do you see me and your mother? Like we try to make sure that we get our work done. And then if we want entertainment, you'll notice that we might watch a movie at night the reason why i watch a movie at night after dinner is because all of our work is done for the day did you finish your homework are you done with these things

this is the way that i think that we should live our life in this house as this family you know and i just think trying to reinforce that over and over again rather than like a ton of a lot of rules. Yeah, no, I dig that. The leading by example, of course. Yeah, you got to walk the walk if you're going to talk the talk. You can't tell them to do something, do the opposite. But like we're right, at least I am at that point where it's like I'm going to have to tell my daughter like, hey, have to pick something or I'm gonna have to pick it for you like and that's gonna not be fun for either of us because I might pick something that I think is awesome you might hate it and if I if I think it's awesome and you end up hating it then I'm gonna feel bad talking like about like a physical

activity yeah just something because I'm like he's just you can't get out of school and then like just hang out in your room all day on your phone like that's not okay so like her mom makes her or not makes her but she like encourages her to uh do like home workouts and stuff and she does them but she just doesn't do them enough and it's like she'll do them and then it's like back to whatever device she wants to whether it be watching tv or again like on tiktok or something this might be effective for you. I forget the name of the book, but there's a guy that talks about boxing ideas, boxing up and packaging an idea. So you could say something the effect of like,

we're going to go on a walk. We can either go on a hike or we can go and walk over this way and maybe when we're done walking maybe we'll shop a little bit. Give him different options on where you're going to walk but the premise is like everything's walking maybe she doesn't really love walking like kids kind of hate walking especially when

they don't know where they're going yeah kid a kid will always ask like well where are we walking to and you're like i just want to go on a walk that's like old people shit you know especially to a kid they're like what the fuck that doesn't make any sense. But if you package it up like that and say, we're going to walk over here, and then when we're done, like I know you wanted a new pair of shoes or I know you were looking for sandals because the summer's coming up. Maybe we could pick something out because I know that X store is over there and I know that you like that place kind of thing. You kind of make it like a little bit of a –

but to kind of show your kid that like cool shit is going to happen when you do stuff that's boring and you do stuff that is like a waste of time I think is really important. My dad does the most amazing job of that because my dad will like – he'll take my kids to do all kinds of stuff and next thing you know they're like making a fire or they're doing something. Like he's always doing something that's like i don't know totally dangerous but but i think those kinds of things like you show a kid like hey remember i said we're just going to go like on a walk but then something cool happens on the walk so it's important for them to know like when you hang out with family like the part of the part of the cool part about it and part of the shitty part about it is it takes a long time you might feel bored to tears but something cool is going to happen when we go on that walk we're going to see those ducks and like this other thing's going to happen that you found cool you

know you'll find something you're gonna find something good from doing this stupid bullshit with your dad that you really don't want to do yeah absolutely so like we'll do that walking to dutch bros and it was pretty cool because she was talking i don't know or we were talking to a relative and we were explaining like yeah like we'll go walk to dutch bros with like you know the whole family and i'm like wait that's like that's kind of far isn't it we're just like oh yeah it's like basically like two miles. Like, wait, you guys walk that like every week? I was like, yeah. Like, you know, Jasmine does it pretty easily. So that made her feel pretty good.

And so like stuff like that, yeah. And like, you're right. Boxing ideas, I like that. That's a cool thing. I'm going to have to try to figure out what book that came from. Because if you type in boxing ideas, it just comes up like literally like boxing tips. The guy's last name is really weird to spell. I'll look it up at the end of the show and try to figure it out.

Yeah, I dig it. This was a cool episode that went in a totally different direction. Yeah, it did. I think a better direction maybe. It really did. It seemed he never sent over the script. Oh, yeah. But guys in the audience, men and women, if you have children

or if you think that there's some good resources, some good people to talk to about this, comment down below those names and potentially those books because this is actually very important. What are you guys thinking of Encima's pecs too?

They're looking pretty good today. The lighting's perfect. Did you put good on there. Did you put makeup on there? Or is that just you woke up like that? No, no. I usually put a little bit of eyeliner just to shadow in between. There you go.

It looks like you maybe powdered up the top of the pecs to make them look brighter. And if they look brighter, then they look bigger. They're kind of throbbing a little. Are they? Wow. Or that's my boner. Mike Isra israel had some really nice cleavage mike israel's titties were fat yeah he really was like he's ready to like

hit a button like he's on fucking jeopardy or something the whole time if he looks down his chin is like in between his boob crack a lot of people were saying that that was like their favorite episode a lot of people yeah he's so good like their favorite episode. A lot of people. Yeah. He's so good. Mike is. Don't blame them. Yeah. That's fucking like Israel. He's, he's one of those people that he just makes you laugh when you see him.

That's why I kept making fun of him so much. Cause he's like, he's just fun guy like that, you know, and any text messages, any messages we've had back and forth, even though we've never met each other. Yeah.

We're always just talking shit to each other. One thing I found so interesting is like how, how useless he believed body work was i'm just i was just thinking about something like but it feels so good maybe it just feels good maybe it's not but i think it's actually very beneficial yeah it was interesting yeah when we talked about like myofascial stuff he just what you know but then he believes all the science that he believes on the lifting side of things. But yeah, it wasn't gravitating towards anything in the, yeah, the physical therapy world is a weird one. We found that out and everybody hates each other.

Andrew, take us on out of here. You really do though. All right. Thank you everybody for checking out today's episode. Like Nseema said, let us know down below in the comments, you know,

some, give me, give me some parenting advice and also some books that you guys found helpful. When I was having my kiddo, reading Dude, You're Gonna Be a Dad was pretty cool because it was kind of written in color crayon for me, so I really like that. But yeah, let us know.

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